#Beginner/noob data (horsehead/flame nebula)

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novel agate
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Anyone willing to spend a couple of minutes processing my (absolute) beginner data to see what is attainable when you know what you're doing? So far it's mainly trial and error for me, and I was wondering what is attainable and how far off I am with my own tries.

Just a disclaimer; the data will be terrible by most of yours standards. There are tracking errors, it's terribly noisy, but hey, it's a start!

https://filesender.surf.nl/?s=download&token=199fabf6-d629-4039-94f2-27e355d83396

vagrant vortex
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suprisingly good result after seeing the raw!

craggy grove
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idk why is the horse hunching tho 😭

novel agate
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I dont know what you mean exactly but the field of view might be tilted?

craggy grove
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nahh prolly a drizzle thing ig lol

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is it drizzled?

novel agate
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I used the preprocessing option without drizzle. What would the drizzle do?

novel agate
craggy grove
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and ur focal lenght

novel agate
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It was shot using a nikon d3200 (crop sensor) and a 300mm lens at f5.6

craggy grove
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u can drizzle it

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it would help

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these shots are untracked or tracked?

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if its untracked then yea u can drizzle too

novel agate
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They are tracked (30 sec subs), but they all have some tracking error. I have to eyeball my polar alignment

novel agate
craggy grove
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well the condition for drizzles are that ur shots have to be like dithered which is basically when u move the cam a bit from one shot to other so that ur sensor defects dont show up

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the other is to have undersampled data

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it has a formula but basically when its like 1.5-2+ arcsec/px u can drizzle

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it would bring out like more resolution

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the thing is that without dithering drizzle would jst be making stuff up lmao

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bro it lowk looks like snakehead for some reason 😭

vagrant vortex
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like it's almost 9 pixels fwhm, so if anything you should really consider binning. Maybe even 3x

vagrant vortex
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binning is basically the opposite of dirzzling. you just merge 2x2 or 3x3 pixels into one to increase SNR

novel agate
vagrant vortex
craggy grove
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i am not good with this nebula bro 😭

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idk why my whole image blows up when i stretch it

vagrant vortex
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no way that's the same data???

novel agate
craggy grove
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but like

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looking closely

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the stars are all blown up

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the flame is cooked

vagrant vortex
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is it binned?

craggy grove
vagrant vortex
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did you use heavy AI noise removal or something? surely all those details in the bacground aren't actually real

vagrant vortex
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like all those details you've got are just made up

craggy grove
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😭

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like

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2 max strenght graxpert

novel agate
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In any case, thanks to you both for having a look at it and playing around! I think I will have to start by finding a better way to polar align my mount 🙂

Also, what would be other feasible targets when I can only expect similar quality data? So far ive only tried this, m31 and m42.

craggy grove
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pleiades

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and rosette too maybe

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also like try to get the polar alignment good enough to like take 120s subs with no trailing or minimal trailing

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and also get this app called polar clock

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it shows where to put the polar star in ur polar scope at what time

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like this

vagrant vortex
novel agate
craggy grove
novel agate
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Tal-1m

craggy grove
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tbh u can jst get around with it with like attaching a polar scope parallel to where the RA is pointing lol

harsh hedge
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Thats the one I got.

novel agate
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I feel it might be difficult to actually attach it to something in a way that is aligned with the axis

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But yeah, i think ill have to have a closer look and see what would be possible

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right now it's pure eyeballing

harsh hedge
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Some mounts have a scale on dec and ra axis. If yours does you should be able to set "home position". My az gti does not have it so I had to roughly find zero position and mark it on the mount.

harsh hedge
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I also use it as a finder scope with my mak.

vagrant vortex
novel agate
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So i cant connect it to anything

harsh hedge
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Does your mount have something like this?

novel agate
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Problem there though is that those are loose and not set correctly. So I don't really have a set variable to set them to it feels. But I also don't really have a clear understanding of how to use those yet.

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This is it (built in 1997)

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It's kind of funny because the manual literally says: "point the axis towards polaris"

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as if thats an easy thing to do without any form of scope or dot

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and then also says: "More precise polar alignment is needed for astrophotography"

harsh hedge
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It measures bearing, starting with 0(or 360) at North,90 East,180 South, and 270 West. Unfortunatelly if those rings are loose, you cant really set "home position". If you could then with a laser you could get rough alignment, probably better than just eyeballing. I use this method to roughly set pa before I use asiair pa tool, to save time on fine adjustment.