topaz denoise is crazy/throw some noisy data at me

[hot hazel]

If you've ever done normal photography, you might have heard of topaz ai photo/video
This is an example of it in action vs my old noisy astro images

ignore the orion core

[terse hound]

topaz 💀

[hot hazel]

[terse hound]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-ia-intelligence-artificielle-artificial-intelligence-bann-gif-15493397896941285701

(unless its rcastro stuff im biased af)

[real basalt]

[hot hazel]

isnt it not all the same?
regular denoise does the same thing no?

[hot hazel]

no way 🫣

[terse hound]

topaz is like getting chat gpt to write an essay for you while rcastro is like getting peer feedback and having your mum fix your grammar on an essay

[hot hazel]

too much?

[hot hazel]

is it not like blur x

[terse hound]

there are better free programs out there like graxpert

[terse hound]

blurx is like refining data while topaz is more generative

[hot hazel]

I'm not sure what you mean
I don't see anything that wasn't there before the denoise

[terse hound]

hmm maybe im too much of an extremist

use graxpert denoise though

[hot hazel]

its been better than my graxpert too
I also dont pay for topaz🏴‍☠️

[terse hound]

huh

[hot hazel]

for sure let me test it on the image above
ill send it

[hot hazel]

yea not as good and it made my core yellow for some reason

[terse hound]

grax?

[hot hazel]

yea

[terse hound]

Are you using it on a png?

[hot hazel]

i used it on a fit

[terse hound]

Linear?

[hot hazel]

it was a star recomposition fit from starnett linear

[terse hound]

That’s wierd

Usually it’s perfect

[hot hazel]

maybe the starnett broke something idk
I had no idea topaz made its way to astrophotography already i just looked it up

[latent rivet]

They are both a bit of a black-box, but one was at least trained on actual astro data

[real basalt]

BlurX is using math to mathematically reverse blur by remodeling the PSF. Topaz is edge detection sharpening on 1lb of crack😂

[hot hazel]

Woah now, blurx has a little crack mixed in too😂

[real basalt]

if you crank it to 100 then yeah

[hot hazel]

Which rc Astro program would you choose if you only had one?

[real basalt]

BXT

[hot hazel]

Is it one time purchase?

[real basalt]

YEs.... well kinda

You have 3 activations availabile

[hot hazel]

Yearly?

[real basalt]

one time. you pay once and you get 3 activations available. then if you want more keys, you have to buy it it again

[hot hazel]

Why would you need 3 activations if you only need 1

[real basalt]

in the case you want to activate it on multiple devices

[hot hazel]

Got it

[flint urchin]

i had many issues on graxpert too

thats why i switched to cosmic clarity

[hot hazel]

i just got my uv ir cut filter so when the moons starts to go away a little hopefully i can get some galaxy/reflection nebula images

[left void]

topaz…

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderation-ban-mod-ban-gif-9351874248631360646

straight up hallucinating in details 💔

[hot hazel]

its the same thing as blurx, that just looks like slightly bad noise cleanup in one spot which is unnoticeable zoomed out. The orion was insanely noisy, but the heart wasn't as bad and i don't see anything that wasn't there. Remember this is without topaz sharpen, its only using the denoise feature.

[river agate]

Well there are also first-principles denoising methods that aren't trained on any data (e.g. total variation, TGV, nonlocal means like NL-Bayes, even a simple median filter, etc.)

Even a Gaussian blur is technically a denoising method, just not one that's good at preserving details

[latent rivet]

Just say that the target you intended to shoot was the noise, that way you instead want to lower SNR which is much easier

[hot hazel]

I’m not sure how this carries over to high light pollution areas. I don’t know what the right settings I need to be at for my bottle to get lower snr

[latent rivet]

I was just joking