#NEW M57 DATA!
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thats this simple?
i'll try this with my own data i never dither cuz i didnt learn yet lol
i'll start trying to dither by my next data btw
just kinda hard with alt az mount
Cool
i have an alt az mount too
all that with just siril and other free softwares
you got no excuses
i think its 1200
ye 1200
callibration frames please
who needs that
only people with skill issues use blurx
because they don't know how to shoot
Why is bro so mad?๐ญ๐๐ป
frr
or bc they live in a b9 with lots of air polution place like me
Because saying you dont have pix is an excuse
Who cares if the data is good
It is
I never have good seeing
And with my focal and pix seeing is crutail
it aint
It is
guys
its finally happening
finally
2 DAYS OF CLEAR SKIES
during the moon and i can t start the m27 project 
always when the moon is out...
Fr
@woven pier 1036 MESSIGES!
It isnt
Iโm in a high bortle
I donโt think you are
Just saying lollo doesnโt want to process your data anymore
So i suggst you learn it
if u finally process my m57 with the best of your abileties than sure
not here to make contracts i would have been happy to help if only you didnโt keep pressing
Do it
Or ask someone else
Or pay him
this thread is so odd...
1000 messages is much? i don t think so
?
not what i said
i mean like its just a single dude who takes a lot of data then begs other people to process it ๐ญ
no shade but u gotta learn to do it yourself
literally what share your data is for
yea, but just learn how to process its not that hard
I admit, that my first few images were not processed by me, but when I mininerd, I knew that needed to change
your gonna be able to get much more integration
well the issue is that i really badly need blurx and noisex etc
and im not gonna spend like 500$ on that
Blurx and noisex have nothing to do
wdym?
usually the opposite, people ask for others data to try it out
and here is that data`?
you do the opposite
i share the data that people can process?
you take data then pester people to process it on your behalf
this poor kayque person
hes my friend
Dead fr
lol i'm his slave
@woven pier guess who got some of the sharpest data bro
m31
orion neb true color
orion neb crazy sharp ir
m32
mirachs ghost
i'm gonna process those but with one condition... i want 100k dollars in my bank account till morning tomorrow
Deal
process. it. yourself.
Hi merw
hi
Yeah ofc ill try
yeeeah
oh my
686nm
685*
@woven pier pls process the data bro
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Its insanley sharp
i'll just not now sowwyy
yeah i gave it a look!
your like extorting him bro, learn how to stack
i think he stack
I stacked
your thread is competing with ashens dungeon 
Thanks brotato
wow!
@woven pier BRO I JUST SPENT 4H OUTSIDE IN -15 CELSCIUS TO GET THE CRAZIEST HORSEHEAD DATA
Single sub unprocessed..
3sec subs x 120subs
pls stack them.
ts all
wdym single sub unprocessed this is better than my 3 hours processed image my man
yooo
very harsh data, its noisy af lol
and its very small fov for horse head so yeah pretty hard
It was only a stacked video
okkk
how did it go?
oh
u can watch if u want lol
no tkx lolll
idk i just dont want lol
oke
W bro
idk where is this from?
Very small
lemme check
i asked chat gpt and it says there is no catalog at such location, i cared to get the exact cordinates tho so it should apear somewere
5h35m28.19s/-5ยฐ11'04.6"
@warm veldt
Okay
Ah
Yeah
e
gotta respect more nasa put hubble image there
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loll
Kayque
Good news
Just got Sam to blurx the data
Now its your turn to shine 
@woven pier
wait just a sec i'm processnig smt eslse
when i finish here i'll do
Said smt else bro๐
But alr
@woven pier wanna vc tho?
my family is alseep cant sorry
Okok
@woven pier bro we gotta beat ashens dungeon in messiges
Only 200 messiges away
frrr
This will be the share your data with most messiges of all time btw
Its 2nd right now
@woven pier lmk when u can process
its ok lol
@woven pier totally no differnace
fr man i see no diferencess at all
yoooooo crazyyy
do this means no more crazy small fov's???
yoooo
Bigger but still small but its 4k!!
8.29mp instead of 1.2๐ญ
wish i could have this camera
Its a really good for btw
haha
idk why i laughed btw
not crazy but very goood
Its ok twin
It is crazy
Pix scale is even smaller than right now
how can i know these numbers?
btw i forgot to say i'm getting a new telescope for next year
sv48p or something close to this one
gonna specialize more in galaxies and nebulas with this little guy
and more planets with the one i have
Ts tuff? (1 week ago vs today)
?
Get an 8" dob bro๐๐ป
Please
thats way too expensive and big for me lol
maybe when i'm 35
lol
Like 500
x5 + taxes and tranportation
The camera i May get is literally more expensive than my entire setup combined lol
gonna be 5k when it get here
bruh
Camera is like 1100$
jesus
my camera is like 300
Same
but its not dedicated and the fov might even be too big lol
like most nebulas are just too small to fit
Mine is a bad planetary camera from 2016๐
they get 50 pixels of diameter max lol
Cygnus
well at least ur is a planetary camera u can image planets
also its mono right?
mine is rgb
No
in a b8-7
Its color
how do u image ir so?
Ir filter?
but like if its collor it gets just a small fraction of ir collors so it isnt even worth it
like gotta get 10% of the ir spectrum
My ir filter is 685nm and the camera is good at 685
unless ur camera is sensitive to rgb and ir
ah ok
yeah but with this mono camera ir is gonna explode with details and light
rgb and luminance too
Fr
jeez
Just need lrgb filters too
yeah
btw i think i need a mono cam
might give a look at this for the next year also
Than i will have lrgb uv/ir cut and ir685nm filter + duoband fitler
but its just too expensive to have a mono cam and the filters
U can get a mono for like 300 btw
man u need to start converting to reals fr
just do x5
and consider there are taxes and importation
Bro import tax aint 5x
x5 is just my currency
real is 5 times less worth than dollar and 6 to euro
where do u live?
fr
here a freking sv105 is 400 how a mono cam can be 300
here is your camera in a local price
tkx god its local if i had to look for one from abroad it would be more expensive
is that really nasas image
one of them ye
thats the mc not mm
sweden
couldnt find the mm
whats the minimum pay?
prob like 2000$ a month
i searched and its 38k sek a year
a month sorry
its already 15k more than here converting
oh sorry this is the average
dont change much to me its 25k
Yh
this is webbs
hubble
nicee
Yee
ร
crazy
@latent bridge yo
what
We need more messiges
then image more
clouds for 3 weeks more
3 weeks is not that bad trust me
I have had clouds for 3 weeks already and 3 weeks more
i remember when i got my dob
the first couple of weeks were trash
and now when i want to make bigger projects
its trash too
Fr
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how is it still alive
@woven pier btw I got great data today
Took my first image dedicsted to a nebula outside of your galsxy
Also took the best image of a galaxy ever
yooo nice!
Ye
i'll give a look later
@woven pier u looked?
@woven pier me vs Veloren (mine isnt even blurxed or processed..)
not yet
sharpest image ever taking from earth
ok
when? grrrrrr
Geez bro became a tiger๐ญ
literally my last name lol
I'm gonna process tomorrow I'm impossibilited to use my pc rn
ye
Ik lolll
also
do i try to get like 4h of data on it? but like actually sharp sharp data?
live view but 100x speed (0.33fps)
When I process I'll have an answer to this cuz rn I don't know what it's like after processing
alr
Nice! I can see the hot pixels floating there tho loll
ye
u can clearly see the nebulae tho lol
at only 3 sec subs
what gain are you using
Was using 600 for ts
@woven pier when process?
my man we have very diferent time zones be patient๐
oh ye i forgot lol
lolll
what time is it for u?
ah
i think u should try to get more signal to noise ratio, maybe lower ur exposure and gain so that its sharper and has less background detail
ye
seeing is going to be alot better today too
@woven pier ill try to get alot of even sharper data of MGC604 in a Lil bit
thats what i thinked in my head when i saw the messages lol
@woven pier i got 1h more data!
graxpert made a new type of nebula
wdyym?
soome nebula became star
oh ye
nebtar
here is ur referance
i dontv think itll look good, can i have the non blurX
not gonna look like that in a cazilion years man sowwy
nah nah i trust in your processing akilla
skills*
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u defnetly have more contrast and less noise there but still not good enough i think
ok non arguably better
uh 8 i think
ok sure
Oke
mb tomorrow
Okay
Can u send an ss of the auto stretch tho?
Im on mobile so I cant check @woven pier
i'm processing my image rn so literally cant even open it rn
@woven pier ?
@woven pier bro died
Yeah
Thanks bro
@woven pier we are getting there!๐๐ป
Is it just me or would duoband data be really good?
@woven pier BROO IM AS GOOD AS STELLARIUM WEB WITHOUT EVEN USING BLURX!!
yooo fr
just need a bit more data
bit= 1 cazilion hours
joking like 5 more hours is enough i think
btw i'm currently imaging 3I/atlas!
i'm so lucky that my mount even decided to collaborate
loll
what nebula
Ye
W
@woven pier i will open precsants in like an hour mabey
NICEEE
YEEE
I wish i had this one!
FR
tho i dont have rgb filters ๐ญ
and better everything
gonna collect data 8x faster according to chatgpt
u can do luminance and ir for now
ye
dont dont dont dont dont dont dont use chatgpt for that
assuming absolutely ideal conditions youll have a x5 output, assuming you use proper filters.
Like 4 times the snr in perfect conditions
Aka 8 times the data
Not snr, data
So 2x the snr?
The 4x gain from mono stems from the lack of the Bayer matrix which is an overshoot due to the functions of the Bayer matrix
Yeah ik
The extra I guesstimated were from cooling
Ye
So 4 - 5x the data is more accurate
Ye
Though it depends on a lot more factors
We can get into theory all we want but the end result is the same
Itโs a lot better

So 1h with the mono (lum) is gonna be like 4-5h rgb with a color?
Depends on too many factors but Iโd say so yes, if you cool down to -15 and the lum filter has proper transmission
Oh yeah whats the perfect sensor temp?
Technically as low as possible but after -15 youโll find nearly no difference to the lower temps
On most cameras -10 is already the bottom cap
So if its -15Cยฐ outside. Do I like not even use the cooling?
Youd essentially remove thermal noise eliminating the need for darks, assuming a lack of amp glow
You will need to use it
Camera has no amp glow
Camera sensors heat to above ambient
Ye ik
E.g. 10 degrees above ambient
Only like 10 degrees
Exaclty
Ye
Coldest ive ever had my 224mc is -10 (the sensor)
A Thermo-Electric cooler holds the temperature
If in the night the temp drops from 0 -10 or vice versa the cooler will automatically adjust to keep the set temperature
This wonโt happen if its cold enough outside for passive cooling
Oh yeah might be a stupid question but can I use the cooling on the 585 while using asi cap:
?*
Nice
The goofy ass zwo software?
Yes
I need to record videos
Sharpcap works however I havent learn it
Cuz I can record videos while using fan right?
I mean why wouldnt I be able too?
Yeah though why would you need to have a video while having the cooler on
Lucky imaging or what?
Most i can ever like do expoturewise is 3sec
THATS GREAT i will get goto in like 1 month
now lets hope that after you get it u will not have to wait 2 years of clouds to test it
@latent bridge @woven pier 3sec vs 1.5h lf data
is that the nebula in m33?
I actually will vave clear bealive it or not
then its great
But its gonna be really cold
Like really cold
Actually not that bad but it will be -15Cยฐ
like 3 days ago the 24,25,26 december here in my town there was -10C
Me vs my goal
Mine isnt blurxed btw
Im happy to say that I did get quite alot of stars inside the galaxy
it has alot of them
i can show u my friend's image
Ye
thats what he did
But with the mono cam i could do 0.2sec expotures and it would be as much data as 1sec with my current camera..
Crazy
yeah its like 1s frame with a 6" and a 16"
its amazing
And if I do for example 0.1sec expotures i could lucky image it to be insanly sharp
btw i am waiting till the clouds go away
i might image today
but its like 75% possible
i was worried about the fog
but its gone alr
Yw
Ye
This is quite crazy tho
Live view at 100x speed
Best trscking of my life
Thats 0.33fps btw @latent bridge
wait a second
the timelapse is with each frame centered or its just how it tracked?
Used pip for centering
nice
Ye
I cant wsit to go mono
The camera is crazy good at ir too
Also fov is way bigger and somehow smaller pixels
yeah the fov will be crazy
@woven pier ?
WE DID IT!!! @woven pier @latent bridge MOST MESSIGES ON A THRED IN SHARE YOUR DATA!!! @ripe glade
lol
1600 messiges is crazy
its alr 200 messages by?
when i was looking at it like 3 days ago it was near to beat it
fr
yoooo nicee!
not yet
Can u now?
Wtf is this thread 
i still dont know and i'm here since half this year
real
@warm veldt
lol
@woven pier
Blurxed
@woven pier @ripe glade @latent bridge yooo!!
It has ariveddd
585mm pro
Damn cool
Yeee
Im just missing a dc 12v adapter๐ญ
But ill see if I can go buy it today
In storr
Store*
you can still use it without that
thats only for the cooling
it needs the 12v to start
thats only for the cooling
ye ik but u still need it plugged in. literally says in the manual
thats the usb3.0
ok
its a pretty good camera, also whats your fl, you could prob go higher sub lenths
i fell you with the cold its horrible
nicee!
Oke
@woven pier here ๐
its gonna need blurx tho so dont process it. just send the stack
M51 1min of data from b8..
yes this camera is really op
jupiter in IR
fr i wish i had it
WOW
bruh these subs are a cazilion times better than before
this is a single sub man
exp?
and what filter too?
here stacked
oh nah ofc its a stacked video but snr is around 5 times better
yeah fr
770ms for 10mins
but still better than last thingy
from b8
what filter?
luminance
aka uv/ir cut
btw this is less than 2mins of data with 1sec expotures..
actually insanr cuz its from b8
@woven pier bro u stacked it as color
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?
ye it is
need some flats
MY DATA??
this is the tiff u asked
ye
u fine
do u want to try the orion?
just keep giving me data lol
idk
ofc cuz my data is gonna be firee with the new cam lol
it looks pretty small fov to m42, i think i'll wait for u to have a good new set of filters lol
that was using dueobnad btw
i just want too see how far u can stretch it
yeah but i cant make collors out of it
ye ik
i like collors๐ญ
but i'll be waiting for ur rgb images with this
and narrowband too
i wish i had this camera lol
i just think id need a new mount since mine is kinda trash lolllllllllllllllllllll
i'll get new camera lens by next year tho
did i tell ya?
?
a 300mm canon
yoo
i assume i didnt lol
but pls process before i fall asleep ๐ญ
i'm doing rn lol
sadly wont be able to get rgb untill next winter on orion cuz i havent bought color filters yet ๐ญ
wow
i mean on everything
like i'm waiting for rgb images
orion can wait lol
woahhhh
when i get this 300mm lens ill start using it like crazy on orion and other big nebs-galaxies lol
first one will probably be pillars of creation tho hehe love it
did it fit the fov?
uhm.. well..
you tell me
lets see
the center is in the top right btw
fr
can see some structure tho
already doing lol
i already know these by mind lol
i used then to image it when i first tried
yo denoise is black magic
u should continue takind images from this other galaxy neb with this camera
U mean m57?
but would need to start from zero cuz its a diferent cam
no no i mean the one u was imaging before this camera came
Ohhh
ngc604
Yeah I will
Ill try to get 5h lum 1h red 1h green 1h blue
Frrr
But ill start shooting it when moon is gone
instead of lum do Ha hehehe
shush buy one
no i want Ha
but u will buy one
yeah fr
for me i'm shooting cuz the moon is rising like 1pm
Ye
it sets like 00:00 so its perfect to image centaurus A
shush here it is 1000 stop getting excuses and buy one

i need to go rq
i'll start setting up to image
look at my stars bruhhh
T
yeeeah
@woven pier blurxed is insane..
i dont have the filters ๐ญ also rgb on hubble variable is quite boring
@woven pier hubbles image
SHUSHHHHH
ye ofc its better in rgb but not alot. its just blue
not my image
@woven pier this is what i could get with color
Try Hind's Variable Nebula
NGC 1555, sometimes known as Hind's Variable Nebula, Sh2-238 or HH 155, is a variable nebula 4 light years across, illuminated by the star T Tauri, located in the constellation Taurus. It is 400 light years away from Earth, and has a magnitude (B) of 9.98. It is also in the second Sharpless catalog as 238. It is a HerbigโHaro object. The nebul...
thats just this
hi
wyd?
nothing rn
Yay
Im at the toilet tho
lol
say it
Could u pls try to process this and pull out the mpst u can?
Its the blurxed version of my NGC604 image
@woven pier ?
Give it your best๐๐ป
i'll try in a bit
Danke
@woven pier did u try?
its coming along
@woven pier i wanna try smt
pls stack these as blue green and red in order of how i sned them
it would look really cool
unique pallete
@cunning sky
Will when home
ye
yeah
actually
hmm
try to do the same again but without the red one
it should be less red dominated
so dont use the red file
if thats ok
do green for normal and red for ir
@woven pier do red for ir
u did green for ir
said it here
blue first
how would i know
than green than red
will try later
Holy noise๐๐ป
Tuff
fr
Cant u remove it?๐
it will kill all the details in my new processing method
like
galaxy go blur
star go fog
U have a pic?
unfortunatly not
Ah
yo @woven pier
had some insane seeing
calisto transit btw
like what is ts liveview
I dont have anough money yet๐ญ๐ญ
U can buy them for me ๐๐ป๐๐ป
i dont have the money also lol
but u have to i'm just the demander
dont turn things around
Real
@woven pier guess what
new color data
of the most niche target you will ever have the chance to process
ic2149
like the only other image i could fine online
my seeing was ass tho
@woven pier
Yoooo
Whats thatt?
on the new cam tho?
no ๐
i'll later
This target is too niche for your skills
lol
im genuiently serious
man pls start using ur new cam plss
cant do much abt it
just too big fov for it lol
U want color data
Thats my smallest non okanetary fov๐ญ
Well give me the 200$ sure


