Telescopes and nerd stuffs

[tropic basalt]

Hey you, guys.
Should i buy one of these two options for my first experience with telescopes?

*(First one: 1.970,00 ≈ $364,08
Second one: 1.050,00 ≈ $194,04.
The sallary per month my country is R$1,412 ≈ $256,76, for comparison.)

[old bone]

Neither are great. Are you planning on imaging or visual?

[tropic basalt]

Sorry. What do you mean?

[old bone]

Do you want to take pictures. Or use your eyes

[tropic basalt]

Take some pictures.

[old bone]

Do you have a camera or anything?

These won’t be good for astrophotography. You mainly need a star tracker for that

[austere tulip]

Untracked astrophotography exists

Also it's an EQ mount, idk about the optics but the eq mount will easily track objects with a motor

[tropic basalt]

Unfortunately, not yet. But buy one is it in my plans too.

[old bone]

Thats why I said "mainly" also the EQ mount in the picture appears to be one that is not good. It looks too weak. I wouldnt recommend either of the 2 scopes.

[tropic basalt]

I figured I had to have one, anyway.
This isn't a cheap hobby.

[old bone]

You dont need one for lunear or planetary. Its extremely helpful for DSOs.

If you want to do visual, get a nice 6 or 8 inch dob. That would also allow you to do lunar or planetary with a simple webcam or cheap planetary cam, untracked.

For DSOs I wouldnt recommend you buy a telescope at your low of a budget. You can get a simple DSLR and Nifty Fifty and do untracked. Maybe even a cheap vintage lens for longer focal lengths.

The longer the Focal Length, the harder it is to do untracked. A 50mm Nifty Fifty is wide enough for untracked.

[tropic basalt]

Too much info.
Gimme a while to process.

[old bone]

Let me simplify

Visual - Get a 6 or 8" Dobsonian
Planetary or Lunar Imaging - Get a 6 or 8" dobsonian
Deep Sky Objects - Get a DSLR, and Canon EF 50mm F/1.8 (Nifty Fifty) Lens for untracked astrophotography

[tropic basalt]

Ok!

A DSLR is it in my plans, anyway.

[old bone]

This hobby is expensive. You can get a cheap old DSLR for $75-100 USD. a Nifty fifty is like $125 too. A 6 or 8" dob can run between $300-600

[tropic basalt]

Yeah.
Isen't it too much "cheap" in my country, but, with some time and patience, i guess i will buy every item i need.

[old bone]

my prices will be off then depending on your country. these are the prices it would be in the US

[tropic basalt]

Add like 20% the price of everything and you will have the real costs, but all of them are good references.

Thanks for all recommendations and your patience.

[old bone]

used deals are your friend