Polls 5.0

[low lance]

Yeah but like you said wrong channel

[strong hatch]

go sleep

now!!!

[low lance]

Here I'll make a poll

Bruh i dont have permission to make a poll 😕

[strong hatch]

awh

[low lance]

Nvrm

[ivory mural]

im assuming you mean generative ai but you should specify

[low lance]

Yeah i should i should've also but a neutral option

[strong hatch]

needs more int

[summer turret]

🚮

[errant quiver]

Yes more int

[strong hatch]

it looks very pretty

but needs more int

[summer turret]

🚮

[cedar dome]

https://tenor.com/view/electro-boom-gif-18170714

[limpid geode]

Interferometry:

[limpid geode]

Remove the mininerd role from @flat wolf

[flat wolf]

chill thun

[low lance]

Pain in the gluteus maximus

If you thought collimation was bad well collimating the mirrors for interferometry is like 5 billion times worse

Unless you mean a different kind of interferometry in which case I'm gonna need you to clarify

[low lance]

Like if the mirrors are even misaligned by the tiniest amount you will have destructive interference instead of constructive often resulting in an image worse than the one you started with and by tiny i really mean tiny like the mirrors need to be collimated to within 1/10th of a wave

Also two telescopes will be looking at two different atmospheric cell which means different blur rates which also means the light wont aligne properly so ontop of all that you also need an adaptive optics and a way to fix the delay of arrival of the light caused by the atmosphere

So I'll reinstate again big pain in the gluteus maximus

[flat wolf]

cephus lowk clears mid diff

[woeful rose]

1 newt for shooting LRGB. 1 newt for shooting SHO.

[rain void]

3 newts for shooting SHO

[marble hearth]

What is that nick 😭

[tribal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-just-hanging-around-gif-6244099902315757809

[low lance]

Alright lets do a new one this time im gonna be more specific

[summer turret]

its very helpful for breaking down assignments and trying to troubleshoot things

or even learning. GPT is very good at tht

[low lance]

Yeah i use it to supplement my learning in school and do partice questions

[mossy mason]

I agree. For solving hw? No do that yourself otherwise u wont learn a thing. But for making summaries of materials and creating study overviews? Absolutely imo!

[delicate lance]

Chatbots are helpful for quite a bit of things, yet they get misused as a replacement for google.

No, ChatGPT isn’t the source of Knowledge you should have.
No, ChatGPT doesn’t know everything and isn’t flawless.

[low lance]

It really depends on how you do it for example what i do for English homework is make AI write the overall essay and then i go in and rewrite it almost completely saves me a ton of work and time because writing out the essay is not necessarily hard but it's what takes the longest this way i can finish an essay that would otherwise taken me at least two days if not more in just a few hours and teachers cant even argue that the work isn't mine because it is it's almost entirely written by me and the only reason why it's not fully written by me is because well some sentences are perfect and i literally cannot change them and also i end up still learning because i have re read the essay at least 10 times over during the time i was rewriting which helps you learn sentence structure and grammar

[low lance]

Also GPT is terrible at troubleshooting things do not waste your time troubleshooting things requires logic and reasoning and ai simply doesn't have that you are far better off using trial and error or simply finding someone to help you troubleshoot than to ask ai

On the other hand AI is great for anything math releated stuff that doesn't have multiple answers to them they simply have 1

[rain void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416476002347122708/1506375264475545670/togif.gif

Who needs to learn anyways amirite??

[strong hatch]

ew

[low lance]

I still learn browski

The people who dont learn are the ones who only copy and paste

[strong hatch]

the people who learn are the ones that actually write it

using ai and changing the wording a little isnt learning

[low lance]

Who said a little

[strong hatch]

thats called using your limited vocabulary to trick the teacher into thinking you wrote it yourself

[low lance]

Yk what ur right

[strong hatch]

you say "almost completely" i say you still didnt try to write it yourself did you

you just copied the ai but worse

[lofty jetty]

......................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!::::::::::::::;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
here's some free punctuation marks

[ivory mural]

I dont think it helped you "learn sentence structure and grammar"

I dont think there was a single comma or period in that whole message

[ivory mural]

[low lance]

Bro this is texting not English class 😭 I'm not going to spend several minutes and lots of thinking for punctuations and grammar also stop being a hypocrite

[errant quiver]

It's harder to read all of that without any punctuation mark

[ivory mural]

Since when did using basic punctuation require several minutes of thinking?

[ivory mural]

and if youre calling me a hypocrite for not using said punctuation in this, your message was many times longer than mine

[low lance]

It's an exaggeration

[low lance]

Tf does the lenght of a paragraph have to do with needing punctuations or not

[errant quiver]

It does

[ivory mural]

...

[low lance]

Okay this is not going anywhere I'm a end it here

[obsidian plover]

I find it very helpful when I'm stuck on a math problem, it can give me a couple steps to solve it

[delicate lance]

Oh yeah it’s Great at math

[obsidian plover]

I try only use it when im genuinely lost

Haven't really used it for English, easier to write my myself

[zealous cloak]

Claude is really nice for "advanced" stuff. It helped me 3d render the dzhanibekov effect using quaternions and python

You sort of have to know what you are doing to use ai properly. Took me 3 months of reading the landau for theoretical physics and lots of python documentation

[leaden copper]

the AI is taking its toll 💔

[limpid geode]

???

[low lance]

Well, it works so and before you go crying about "but, but English teaches you critical thinking and how to connect ideas." Literally, everyone of my classes does that it's not special. English is definitely on one of the more useless classes I have in school at least for the stuff I want to do in the future so I'd rather do what i just said.

[errant quiver]

If AI writes your text, what will rephrasing it going to teach you

[leaden copper]

what do you want to do in the future?

[low lance]

Well it teaches you sentence structure grammar control and you learn to write with a much larger variety of words and rewriting an essay helps you learn the information of it equal to as if you wrote it yourself

[low lance]

Probably a pilot pays well lots of PTO and days off good benifts and also unlikely to be replaced by AI as you have shown the public will never trust an AI system to operate something as dangerous as an airplane

At least not without human supervision

[leaden copper]

oh ok i mean thats fair but writing is also an invaluable life skill

[leaden copper]

this is demonstrably false https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872

[low lance]

Well it has so idk what to tell you well i should say it did I'm out of practice i haven't written an essay in ages

[strong hatch]

good luck if you cant understand a resume

[leaden copper]

you may feel like it has, it most certainly hasnt. this is just cope ATP

[low lance]

But i do also school doesn't teach you about a resume

[strong hatch]

it does, english exams literally have a section about writing that sorta stuff

[low lance]

No i could write much stronger essays after doing what i said i did compared to before it

You do know we do handwritten essays as well right

And my marks improved

Compared before to after

[low lance]

Not my english class but we do have a dedicated course for it well careers in general

But it was so basics I'm pretty sure i could of learned that info in like 2s of online searching

Like all we did was make a resume based on a premade template

[errant quiver]

How about if you had written them without AI

[low lance]

The course was called CLE which stands for Career Life Education definitely one of the more BS courses out there and it's also mandatory then after it you have CLC 11 and 12 and that one stands for Career Life Connections

[low lance]

Probably would've stayed the same because I'm not learning anything new just strengthening my already existing skills

[errant quiver]

You're learning to rephrase texts

[low lance]

That's the thing about English class at least the one in canada you don't learn as much as you practice like 95% of it is basically just a practice for your already existing skills

Like for example i was never thaught how to use punctuations i had to go and learn it myself it was the biggest BS i ever experienced

[low lance]

I can still learn by watching and reading man like it's not that deep

Yes i agree the depth of the learning isn't as strong if i were the one who wrote it but it's not non existent

[leaden copper]

holy placebo

my friend you are in cognitive debt, that is a debt that is hard to repay

[low lance]

Well how else would you explain the improved marks not like i practice

[leaden copper]

genuinely could be anything, easier teacher, random variation, etc.

[low lance]

And remember this was handwritten essay we weren't allowed to use our phones or any tech

[low lance]

Same teacher and repeated improved marks

[leaden copper]

now imagine what could have been possible if you never used AI

[low lance]

Why would it be different teacher it's the same class

[low lance]

I dont think i could have gotten better than 90%

Like that's probably my ceiling for writing

Anything higher and I'll probably have to start inventing new writing techniques

[low lance]

Get it cause my teacher is strict it's a joke

[strong hatch]

my parents forced me to get really good at reading and writing when i was 4-12 and icl im happy they did after seeing a bunch of people in my school that were never made read

[errant quiver]

Improved marks because AI is writing for you

[strong hatch]

was upset at the time and now im hella grateful

[low lance]

The essays were written by hand man no tech allowed

[errant quiver]

Ah

[low lance]

I used to read too but book got boring idk never were able go find a novel that grabbed my attention

[strong hatch]

yk you are meant to read the book to actually get encaptivated in them

[low lance]

Yeah and they never managed to do that idk

[strong hatch]

have you read the his dark materials books?

or the divergent serise

[low lance]

No

[strong hatch]

would reccomend

they are so much better than the movies that were made using them

[low lance]

Alright i will see if my local library has them

[limpid geode]

I can't even tell what point you're trying to make reading your paragraph makes me want to remove my eyes with a blowtorch

Use punctuation

[low lance]

💀

Just look at what you responded you see yall dont even read using punctuations i dont even know who does like yeah sure it does make it slightly more clear but there is almost zero difference

[strong hatch]

punctuation makes things flow better

exept the decimal at the end of a scentence

[low lance]

That falls under the category of clarity and i already agreed with that

[strong hatch]

only needed if theres a following scentence

[limpid geode]

Dude are you even real

[low lance]

Nah this rage bait me no condone rage bait

https://tenor.com/view/ragebaited-ragebait-rage-bait-rage-baited-guaracord-gif-1491053584965813827

[strong hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[glacial bear]

You know what else helps you do that? Attending class and reading texts, and making notes.

[low lance]

Uhh not really my english class isn't really about learning just about "proving yourself" over and over and over genuinely I've been going to english class for close to decade throughout the entire time i haven't learned a single thing ontop of what i already knew

Genuinely it's just busy work

[limpid geode]

I'm hoping you know how to read now at least

[rain void]

Mount your reflector on the eq mount, not on your frac smh

[limpid geode]

You've triggered me

[ivory mural]

if its looking great why stop it down

[ornate glen]

the corners are a little nasty

[ivory mural]

how much is a little nasty

[ornate glen]

not the worst ive ever seen, actually it's performing better than some redcat copies ive seen, but i could be leaving signal on the table and the tilt wont be so impactful

[ornate glen]

RatBag's whitecat looks a lot worse

so does Fredolino's

[ivory mural]

thats rough but i think id leave it

[ornate glen]

this is what I got

1 hour 10 of H-alpha and 1 hour 20 of Oiii

seems like a pretty sharp unit judging by the f/2 performance

I expected the filters to have halos at this f stop but im not seeing those either

[low lance]

Gang that filter is definitely experience bandpass shift unless it's specifically made for f2

[low lance]

Damn

Is the filter made for f2

[ornate glen]

I know

[ornate glen]

No

But it is advertised as getting optimal signal as fast as f/3

So if I had to guess, the bandpass shift isnt as severe as with other 3 nm filters.

But I am well aware that some band pass shift is occurring.

[low lance]

Okay then it fine ig i mean the image has great structure so it's probably doing it's job

As for the stars a little blurx will probably fix them

[limpid geode]

Bump

[ornate glen]

which it did

[glacial bear]

Really depends on what the homemade EQ mount is equivalent of. If you used the equip to make it equivalent of an EQ6 then put the 6" reflector and 3" frac on it for guiding. Or you could put the 6" on as a regular item, switch it up now and again with the 3".

On the other hand if the homemade is equivalent to an EQ1 then you might want to be sure you don't look at it wrong.

[mint talon]

swan filtet

[flat wolf]

huh

[low lance]

Is it properly rated for your specific f stop it should be advertised as a fast filter

Tbh you should just get a aperature mask and save yourself a few hundred bucks plus you get much better looking stars

[strong hatch]

swan filet

[limpid geode]

Realistically, idk, so I'm going to mount the 6" on it and hope it doesn't break or fall over

[marble hearth]

How did we perfectly evenly distribute among the empty options

[errant quiver]

Yea fr

[flat wolf]

yes, i calculated it

[low lance]

Then go ahead

[strong hatch]

get a 1/30th

[flat wolf]

past 1/20th yeilds no difference

[strong hatch]

false

where tf aee you getting ur info

[flat wolf]

i saw it somewhere

[strong hatch]

ive never seen you use such words as yield wtf

you dont speak with these big words

[summer turret]

yield

[flat wolf]

but its not economical to go past like 1/14th or 1/16th

[strong hatch]

have you been hacked

[strong hatch]

what the hell

this is not paint

[flat wolf]

tf you mean "not paint"

[strong hatch]

yea you are not him

doppleganger

what the flip

stay baack

get awayy

[strong hatch]

yea ur a fake

im convinced ur not paint

you are not the paint i know

[flat wolf]

the rap expands my vocabulary

[strong hatch]

rap has highly limited vocab lol

not even listening to nas or whatwvee it called

clearly not paint

[flat wolf]

name one singer who uses the word "schweppervencent" in a song

[strong hatch]

thats either german or not a real word lol

[flat wolf]

lemme find some large words from the song im lisening to rn

[strong hatch]

omfg i was right, its not a real word

its some made up bs

not even german

[strong hatch]

have you heard the song pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

https://youtu.be/vSEmlNNFE_0

[flat wolf]

it actually reprents the sparkling and bubling nature of the essence of the ghetto within him

[strong hatch]

yeah well its still not a real word

its genuinely made up

[strong hatch]

also that name of the band is an abbreviation

[flat wolf]

"All my bars is hard as solid gold bouillon
My name in the Quran, like the kingdom of Suleiman
You done lost your mind trying to call me a mulignan"

from the song im lisening to rn

[strong hatch]

all of those words are used in day to day life

non of those words are big and fancy

[flat wolf]

mulignan, suleiman, bouillon

[strong hatch]

yeah those are regular words?

[flat wolf]

"The matrix, a dominatrix seeking to be served"

[strong hatch]

the matrix is a movie

you probably havent watched it

also dominatrix is also used

[flat wolf]

you suck at ragebait btw

[strong hatch]

no?

im just not joking all those words exept the made up Schweppes one are words used day to day

idk how im ragebaiting

[strong hatch]

also thanks for making me realise it is actually you

you have a big urge to prove yourself to people

so it must be you

[flat wolf]

literaly saying that rao music is complex

[strong hatch]

mhm

wouldnt be trying to prove your extended vocabulary at all would you

[flat wolf]

I said that rap was extending my vocab, you said nah, I showed examples of large vocabulary in rap

[strong hatch]

that was actually pretty limited

so idk

keep trying to prove it ig?

[flat wolf]

@delicate lance you might know

[delicate lance]

No damn clue

[delicate lance]

@night lagoon ^

[flat wolf]

also please say why you voted for either chroma or antila

[night lagoon]

I've heard the antlia 2.5nm have potential issues, antlia may have resolved it but idk if I'm spending that much I guess I'd go with chroma.

[low lance]

False there still is difference just very minor it's mostly just in contrast

[low lance]

Antila has haloing

Especially around big stars

Chroma is just a much higher quality filter

[marble hearth]

?! Thought they had some of the least haloing, especially considering their price

I saw a review on like different filter brands, and I think scorpio filters match antlia's performance whilst being the price of touptek ones

Basically great alternative for a fraction of the price

[low lance]

Maybe I'm misremembering i remember they had an issue of some sorts

Either way chroma NB filters are better

[flat wolf]

Tbh, I feel that at f/3.6, antila would be better due to the fact that antila is a flat top

[strong hatch]

wdym

flat top

all filters should have a flat top

oh you mean flat top on the light pass right?

not the actual filter glass

[pliant escarp]

wheres the option for cleaning the prison bathroom

[lofty jetty]

fck starlink

[ivory mural]

you gave spacex as an option in a space server, what did you think was going to happen

[pliant escarp]

spacex bout to rugpull the entire us economy

[low lance]

Shhh thats a secret

[strong hatch]

mono 533 for c8

[flat wolf]

A newt

[cedar dome]

I meant to say C8 not Redcat

[flat wolf]

Mono will change your life I think

[cedar dome]

Probably, especially with the C8

Will also change my financial life

[flat wolf]

How about a newt

[cedar dome]

If my parents let me

Have to sell the C8 and find room for it

[low lance]

Yall love your redcats don't you

[cedar dome]

I do

What are you insinuating?

[low lance]

Why tho

[low lance]

They aren't that good

[cedar dome]

I beg to differ

[low lance]

Compared to the competition

Like my boy sqa

[cedar dome]

With the 61 the competition is similar if not better

[cedar dome]

Not too experienced with their results

[cedar dome]

I have a buddy that owns an FRA400, and his image clarity and quality is almost the exact same as mine

[limpid geode]

Corrie stop typing RIGHT NOW

[cedar dome]

I am a member of an astro club and have looked at how other scopes perform in the price range; I didn’t buy this because it “looked cool”

I bought it for performance, and I bought it because I know it will work and do what I expect

[low lance]

Wait a minute weren't you a mod like 2s ago ohh that was toast

[low lance]

Fair enough

[woeful rose]

yes sir

[leaden copper]

it just has bad qc, if you get a good copy its chill

the sqas are sharper tho

[cerulean elm]

Now we homies

[cerulean elm]

Which people should not look into

[cloud stratus]

red cat

!!!!

[summer turret]

Yi lon ma

[pliant escarp]

tiny because my dslr is too noisy to see the dim ones

[flat wolf]

how about medium but dim

[rain void]

squid ❤️

[low lance]

https://tenor.com/view/squidachad-squidward-gigachad-spongebob-gif-13962018886955154372

[ivory mural]

what?

[strong hatch]

leds that are a very specific red, very specific green and very specific blue

so they dont effect imaging

[ivory mural]

oh i see now

it made no sense to me originally lol

that would go nowhere though

[strong hatch]

it would be nice to think about

[urban quiver]

I’m having a stroke reading this

[restive fiber]

I mean tri like three

[summer turret]

tri?

[restive fiber]

yes

[low lance]

Tbh i dont even know why we use broad band leds narroband leds would still produce white light like it could literally be 1nm wide band in red blue and green and it will still be white also it will appear brighter too

[hybrid echo]

the main issue is that colors dont work like that
objects dont just have an rgb value
they have a whole, broad, band, reflectivity

[pliant escarp]

Yeah that light has like the worst possible CRI

But it would be nice since you could filter it out

Also white leds only need 1 diode. Not 3. White leds are generally blue leds with a phosphor coating that emits white light when excited iirc

[hybrid echo]

you could do a blue led and a much narrower band yellow phosphor, and itd be white, but even worse cri

[marble hearth]

https://www.newsweek.com/denmark-red-street-lighting-gladsaxe-11488484
👀 Not the exact thing as the poll but similar

[delicate lance]

Yay H-Alpha Light Pollution