Polls 5.0

[tall rivet]

Well, Samsungs generate quite a lot of hot pixels. They usually don’t use Sony’s IMX sensors

[tender hollow]

I'm more concerned about the fact that the dark is crushed and clipped

[hybrid echo]

why does it look so weird

[tender hollow]

This isn't truly unprocessed RAW

[tall rivet]

Open it in PixInsight to be sure… My master dark in PixInsight looks like this:

55s iso 800

In the phone gallery, it looks a bit clipped.

[urban quiver]

what

[delicate lance]

how is this not understandable

58 + 12 is obviously 60

and since 23 + 37 is also 60 the answer must be 35

basic math vro

[urban quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[delicate lance]

HOW are you not understanding this

[urban quiver]

im sorry you are right mr human calculator

[delicate lance]

yeahhh now you get it

[vagrant basin]

Yeah it can be like that

[tender hollow]

will check PI when I get a moment

[vagrant basin]

I also noticed the more you image w phone it gets hotter and produces crap ton more hot pixela

Pixels

[zealous cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099761105552814100/1337390577070641232/media-iv-text.gif

[desert obsidian]

Good poll

[ivory mural]

what's sorta big

[cold moon]

I voted refractor but simply because I would sell it immediately

[delicate lance]

YES GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE RAHHH

[late summit]

that's pretty big brain ngl

[tall rivet]

Same

[delicate lance]

get frac -> sell frac -> buy RC10

[ivory mural]

if i had both id use the refractor, i hate on fracs for their price

[tall rivet]

Takahashi Epsilon 6">>

[delicate lance]

Get Refractor > Trade it with stupid frac lover for different refractor > sell traded refractor

[urban quiver]

No trading

[delicate lance]

you didnt specify such

[delicate lance]

for reference

nice Ha Solar Telescope means Lunt40 - 60 level

beyond that is professional in my eyes

[urban quiver]

It’s implied in no selling

[delicate lance]

h

eh

nah it isnt

[urban quiver]

Not my fault you’re braindead 🥀

[delicate lance]

nah ah just capitalistic

[desert obsidian]

Poor eqm35

[ivory mural]

well it's only 3kg overloaded

and the eqm35 can do some overload

[cinder loom]

There a polls 5 now? 💀

Genuinely what even is the point of mods closing the polls channels when every time someone just creates a new polls channel

[hybrid echo]

I cant image in swir, mir, or lwir with a silly refractor

[ivory mural]

bc sometimes they calm down and last longer

this one has lasted a while

[proud quarry]

6" refractor is all well and good, until you have to mount it

[urban quiver]

My gti can handle it trust

[proud quarry]

sure thing

[obsidian plover]

0.5-0.7 as lowest is crazy, u guys need better mounts

[marble hearth]

I get impatient w PA

[obsidian plover]

Brother it takes 5 mins to get within 10 arc seconds 😭

[marble hearth]

?!?!

Takes me 15 to get within 4 arcMINS

[obsidian plover]

Just gotta get better 😔

[marble hearth]

Ts pmo

[desert obsidian]

Skywatcher is hit and miss

[hybrid echo]

pathetic
imagine having clear nights... any time in the last month

[ivory mural]

dude what

that takes 15 seconds

[limpid geode]

You can magically store and lift it I guess

[summer turret]

f2

[limpid geode]

The 36" has a spherical mirror

[summer turret]

frac gang

[limpid geode]

Lmfao

[fallen obsidian]

heard spherical and dipped

[hybrid echo]

f2 spherical primaries are literally useless

[limpid geode]

I put powerseeker on there

Redoing that hang on

[hybrid echo]

that is almost as bad as the hypershit-cassegrain im building

[urban quiver]

Yea once you give me a few thousand dollars

[obsidian plover]

heq5 ?

[limpid geode]

I need my 2 photons of DSO color

[brisk copper]

f/15 150mm achromat

i could use narrowband

[limpid geode]

2 meter f/15 spherical reflector

[brisk copper]

bad idea

[limpid geode]

Slow

[brisk copper]

circle aberrations

[limpid geode]

At f/15?

[brisk copper]

i think so

[limpid geode]

Not much of an issue for a 24" scope at f/15

[tall rivet]

Spherical 114/900mm > All achromatics

[brisk copper]

actually, the askar doublet, its extremely well corrected for its focal length

[ivory mural]

isnt that a apo tho

its not a true apo since it isnt a triplet but still

[urban quiver]

Askar has a doublet?

[ivory mural]

by achromatic refractor, i dont mean any doublet since there are really good doublets that are classified as apochromatic, i mean the real "cheap" achromat ones

but you can get a fat slow one so it isnt as big of an issue

[marble hearth]

Was supposed to be cloudy last night.. I check satellites and WOAHH CLEAR

[summer turret]

2018 Internet trend

[quasi cedar]

fr but i still think people are lying that they hear yanny

like i know theres those auditory illusions where you'll hear whichever word your thinking of, but i tried to thinky of yanny and still heard laurel, i read text on the screen that said yanny while listening and still heard laurel, IT MAKES NO SENSE

[undone sinew]

i can hear each word on command its not that hard idk how people only hear one

[quasi cedar]

i cant make it do it on command even though i can with most auditory illusions

[undone sinew]

one word is on the low frequencies the other is on the high frequencies

if you get the audio, put it through something like audacity and isolate some of the frequencies you can hear yanny

There are youtube videos on it

[undone sinew]

only offtopic one i will make mods please dont delete

[undone sinew]

Thanks

[obsidian plover]

Getting doordash while polar aligning to keep yourself focused on the imaging session, what is your favourite sandwich

[undone sinew]

im too poor to polar align

[static sapphire]

@quasi cedar please keep it at least tangentially on-topic

[static sapphire]

same for you, please keep it on topic

[undone sinew]

Can we make an offtopic poll thread then

[static sapphire]

i'll bring it up with mods/admins. I don't think discord allows per-thread settings for this so it would have to be in some other way, but we will think about it

[undone sinew]

alright

[static sapphire]

Ok, please use #1411387988776058891 from now on for anything off-topic. Happy polling!

[zealous cloak]

Sharpless is being peak for me lately

[cold moon]

Atlas of peculiar galaxies

[summer oar]

That sounds like a sci-fi book

[summer oar]

Biggest number best

[delicate lance]

its a 0.33MP camera lol

[cold moon]

I'll have to go for the 455 but I'm never gonna be able to afford it

[delicate lance]

@cold moon the 455 is a criminal pick

[summer oar]

Oof

[cold moon]

Full frame with 3.76um pixels, decent QE

[delicate lance]

it can see up to 1800um though

[delicate lance]

wait till this guy hears of the IMX411 which has 150MP

[summer oar]

Huh

[delicate lance]

And also has decent QE and 3.76um pixels

[summer oar]

150MP???

[cold moon]

66.7mm 😭

[delicate lance]

yeah.

[cold moon]

A corrected 12" RC should be able to handle that actually

[delicate lance]

my friend

ben offered me to take an image using his 20'' Dall-Kirkham and one of those sensors

[cold moon]

Damn

Absolute peak

[summer oar]

Wooof

[delicate lance]

(it has a LARGER fov than my 130pds with 585)

[cold moon]

Unless I'm confusing scopes I think this is it

[cold moon]

Cinema

[delicate lance]

its a CDK20 from Planewave

[cold moon]

Idk this feels bigger

[cold moon]

Then no, it's different lol

F ratio?

[delicate lance]

6.8

[cold moon]

Faster than I thought

[ivory mural]

i pick the cheapest option

[quasi cedar]

Sorry someone did a donuts or doughnuts spelling poll so I assumed there wasn't really a general topic

[delicate lance]

(i can buy any of these for the exact same price)

[delicate lance]

all the same price

[ivory mural]

fat dob tuen

[cerulean elm]

Do people actually know what IMX990 is capable of?

[delicate lance]

nope

most people dont even know it exists

[cerulean elm]

Well, i do... imo that's the sensor supremacy right ther

[undone sinew]

sharpless objects being sh instead of s is disgusting

[cerulean elm]

You know why it's called Sh and not S. Because in English, the pronunciation of the letter S, sounds similar to ass. So Sharpless is not an ass catalogue

[summer turret]

The people who said "Doughnuts" have been blocked and ignored.

[tender hollow]

Depends

[limpid geode]

Imagine guiding

[lofty jetty]

Literally me

[glacial bear]

"Guiding? What's guiding?" ☑️

[fallen obsidian]

Put them into the player one camera names and I can answer this poll

[delicate lance]

Uranus Pro
Ares Pro
Artemis-C Pro
Artemis-M Pro
Poseidon Pro
Zeus-455 Pro

others dont exist

[fallen obsidian]

What about like the planetary line

[delicate lance]

so no 411, 990, 460 or 410

[delicate lance]

not a mainstream sensor since theyre not widely used unlike the cooled ones

besides they dont fit

[fallen obsidian]

Prob the Artemis c

[delicate lance]

id agree

[tender hollow]

I like how it's unanimously IMX294

[delicate lance]

It is a bad sensor after all

[ivory mural]

anyone who picks hot and humid is a psychopath

[limpid geode]

[ivory mural]

[limpid geode]

I'm fine with all of them, id prefer the cold weather, but the hot weather would be a good change of pace

[late summit]

hot and humid = death though

humidity makes a massive difference, 19c with 99% humidity is harder to handle that 30c with 10% humidity

[ivory mural]

why are they all specific galaxies then there's starburst

[zealous cloak]

Im more of a 2MASX J16403758+3555092 guy

[swift heart]

I'm a LEDA 3501401 kind of guy

[swift heart]

can't believe you missed the Magellanic Clouds, Barnard's Galaxy, IC 10, IC 1613, and IC 342

[swift heart]

actually that might be IC 10 but idk

[proud quarry]

cold and arid, good for astro

[fallen obsidian]

NGC 4038 or NGC 2442

[obsidian plover]

These all northern galaxies

Lmc wins

[delicate lance]

He did indeed remember but it’s not done

[brisk copper]

the pibk looks more vibrant

but the red has a bit of green to it

[limpid geode]

Bruh I should just turn this thing into a Google forms

[cerulean elm]

Like them youtube survey ads

[limpid geode]

It's a 5 minute unskillable ad

[cerulean elm]

Holy AdBloxk takes care of them

[undone sinew]

NGC 4753 obviously

[uneven shore]

Almost one

I was so close

[cold moon]

Imma go Cartwheel cause why not

Or Hoag's object

[plucky vigil]

Holy hell why 4 no’s

[limpid geode]

Code it in Java, for no particular reason

[plucky vigil]

Doing it in unity

[cedar dome]

I have hope, though I’ve only coded in C++ so

[limpid geode]

Cooked

[cedar dome]

I’d do python

[plucky vigil]

ChatGPT will do the majority of heavy lifting

[mint talon]

you seem like the type to watch 4 programming tutorials, got 1/4th the way through making a pre alpha and give up not long after

[limpid geode]

I absolutely despise unity

[plucky vigil]

Interesting

[limpid geode]

Can't figure out how to use it for the life of me

[plucky vigil]

Why?

Ahh.

[cedar dome]

I was thinking of making a horror game related to astro

[mint talon]

the bears are coming

[cedar dome]

Foxes

[limpid geode]

Too complicated, I'll take my homebrew any given day

[limpid geode]

Pygame...loop hell

I need to get back into programming Wii homebrew.

[plucky vigil]

So many people doubting that I can do it, anyone willing to help or offer advice lol.

[cedar dome]

We need JustEat out of development NOW

[cedar dome]

I can make sprites :)

I don’t have much coding experience however

This should call for a development forum

[limpid geode]

Unity development forums sound a lot like scratch

Aka 13yo plebs getting sassed by grown ass men

[plucky vigil]

This would be huge, I’ll dm you and keep you updated with what to do.

[cedar dome]

Sounds good

[summer turret]

icant code in java

[plucky vigil]

What?

[limpid geode]

Good for you

[quasi cedar]

voices of the void has entered the chat

[proud quarry]

oooooo real

isnt the dev like a terrible person though

[quasi cedar]

not to my knowledge, i dunno

[zealous cloak]

Try, have fun and learn. Holy negativity in here

[plucky vigil]

I know right lmao. Thanks!

[cold moon]

Code it in C++ and build your own ray tracer for nice graphics

Code a light ray simulator from scratch too

[hybrid echo]

you will fail and instead make a large 2d astro game
because of feature creep

[cold moon]

Wait, that gives me another even better idea...

Code it IN Scratch

[hybrid echo]

fun fact about scratch
thats where i first used the name topcode

[plucky vigil]

Ray traced graphics in scratch for a first timer? Sounds amazing lol

[plucky vigil]

Hahaha

We got a road map so should be fine

[hybrid echo]

if u say so

[quasi cedar]

is java easy to learn

like hypothetically lets say little timmy didnt have any coding experience at all, and wanted to learn java, would little timmy struggle learning java

[ivory mural]

does this little timmy happen to be in a very similar situation to you

[quasi cedar]

little timmy is not real and totally doesnt represent anyone here and is totally just hypothetical

[quasi cedar]

little timmy is completely hypothetical and totally does not represent my situation in contrary to how similar that situation may be to mine

[hybrid echo]

timmy should choose a better language than java

[quasi cedar]

what if little timmy wanted to mess with minecraft and therefore requires java to do so, hypothetically, of course

[hybrid echo]

little timmy should see if mayhas mcreator would suffice for the task

[quasi cedar]

little timmy was not aware of mcreator but little timmy is thankful for your recommendation, hypothetically of course.

[hybrid echo]

ofcourse

[quasi cedar]

little timmy now just needs to come up with ideas on what to make first then make bigger and bigger things as little timmy goes on, hypothetically

[tender hollow]

The cylinder must remain attached to the larger structure

[quasi cedar]

SOMEONE GOT THE REFERENCE WITHOUT ME MENTIONING IT

LETS GOOOOOO

[summer turret]

Elite reddit knowledge

[quasi cedar]

fun fact: i installed reddit because of that reddit post

[summer turret]

[quasi cedar]

that was a year ago and now its like my #1 most used app on my phone when im bored

90% of that screentime is the silksong subreddit where i study people losing their minds

[undone sinew]

java sucks

code it in scratch

[undone sinew]

Bro you get one bug that chatgpt cant fix and its over

[plucky vigil]

Nah I’ll like actually put in effort and learn a bit

Doing it in C#

[undone sinew]

java and minecraft modding is pretty difficult and annoying ive tried it before and it genuinely blows ass

there are no good documentations so you’re kind of just at the mercy of youtube videos

also before you do any modding your java knowledge needs to be considerably advanced to understand whats going on

[limpid geode]

Yeah but everybody on scratch is a racist 12yo maga-nut

[undone sinew]

no theyre not man

most of its users probably dont even know how to multiply

[mint talon]

what are you talking about

[bold quiver]

Do you have a ChatGPT subscription?

[plucky vigil]

yes, why

[bold quiver]

Good, likely you’ll succeed with that helping you out then

[plucky vigil]

fingers crossed

[gleaming hearth]

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/868607896/

[plucky vigil]

i am good with the art side of things, i can draw and also have @cedar dome helping out with sprites

just need chatgpt to carry the code side of things

[gleaming hearth]

for 2d I think godot might be a better option than unity

[static sapphire]

famous last words

[plucky vigil]

chatgpt unfortunately SUCKS at godot so stuck with unity, already started now. going well.

doesnt make many mistakes other than telling me something is somewhere when its not (trained off old data but corrects itself once reminded of the version)

its good at C#

[cold moon]

More than 2000

[delicate lance]

it will explode in 15 minutes

[cold moon]

Yeah you right I saw a live on yt

Surely the guy can't be wrong right?

[delicate lance]

cant be

[woeful ivy]

fr???

[marble hearth]

yeah, you missed the once in lifetime opportunity

[woeful ivy]

[woeful ivy]

fk clouds

[ivory mural]

fixed my guiding and got my best images this summer but damn the clouds

[vagrant basin]

Dang😭

[cerulean elm]

No astro dark and mostly rain.

[delicate lance]

no astrodark
no camera
no friend
no time
nothing

[cerulean elm]

What? We ain't your friends?

[obsidian plover]

6 months ago was alright 😔

[static sapphire]

Very windy with and without clouds and rain 😵‍💫

[vagrant basin]

Seems like summer wasn't it

[summer turret]

winter was really good

[swift heart]

I spent less time getting long integrations compared to just exploring the skies with snapshots, but it has been one hell of a time.

[quasi cedar]

what would you say your average int time on targets was because these are pretty good for low int

[swift heart]

The lowest was the Swan at 6 minutes lmao...the Orion Nebula was 9 minutes, the Crescent was 27 minutes, NGC 7331 was 40 minutes, and M24 was just under an hour per panel

[quasi cedar]

what bortle?

[swift heart]

Mostly shot from Bortle 4/5 for broadband, and narrowband up to Bortle 7

Though the NGC 7331 image is just infrared (though a lot of smoke)

The Lagoon was 2 hours 30 minutes, M13 was 2 hours 50 minutes, and NGC 206 in the Andromeda Galaxy is 4 hours

[quasi cedar]

aint no fault in that, you got the supernova, thats what matters with 7331

bortle 4/5 is nice, im moving from a b8 to a b6 soon

[swift heart]

it's also on Wikipedia :)
(though I encourage anyone else here to replace my image...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGC_7331

[quasi cedar]

this was 6 hours on 7331 from b8, the data was honestly not very good, and i didnt have my uv ir cut filter for this soo

and i was using old flats so bad bg

but my fireworks galaxy at 9 hrs was much better

(still no uv/ir cut filter for that data either)

[swift heart]

Just over 6 hours on IC 10 (just RGB)

[quasi cedar]

that seems like a difficult target to pull detail on

[swift heart]

It's the only starburst galaxy in the Local Group, but it's behind a bunch of galactic dust in Cassiopeia

[plucky vigil]

A landslide victory for the people.

[summer turret]

🚮

[sharp berry]

🚮

[plucky vigil]

You saying I/game is trash or the haters are trash

[plucky vigil]

Same with you lol

[sharp berry]

I think your gonna succeed!

[plucky vigil]

Thanks

[plucky vigil]

Follow progress in the thread

[sharp berry]

sure

where

[plucky vigil]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1412439465158381608

[delicate lance]

sell the gti 🗣️
sell the gti 🗣️
sell the gti 🗣️

[urban quiver]

ok ok ok

[cerulean elm]

K and T don't have their place here. K can get confused for Kelvin and T for Tesla.

[rain void]

nah Kelvin and Tesla are units while K and T are symbol sin this case

god dammit i forgot KE as an option

not to be confused with kiloelectrons lmao

[cerulean elm]

That's ke⁻

[hybrid echo]

i personally like "Kinetic energy" as a symbol for kinetic energy

[cerulean elm]

Or keV

[rain void]

yeah ik

[rain void]

no

keV is kiloelectronvolts

[cerulean elm]

Yes, that's why I wrote it as ke⁻

[rain void]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697450809847316540/1396841981589586033/attachment-17.gif

are you okay?

[cerulean elm]

[hybrid echo]

no

[cerulean elm]

@hybrid echo why do you have a fish next to your name? Why? Nobody told me what the fish means.

[hybrid echo]

we both know im never tell u that

[cerulean elm]

Rude

[hybrid echo]

im not allowed to tell u it

[cerulean elm]

Fair. Is there anybody that can tell me?

[hybrid echo]

you will know it in your heart when you are ready

[cerulean elm]

Ain't got a heart mate
Not in the metaphorical way

[delicate lance]

к

[rain void]

crazy talk right here

[limpid geode]

2000 dollar budget and buy both

[delicate lance]

i said 500 twice lmaoo

wait let me redo

[delicate lance]

btw worth noting

buying the Solar Telescope does not make buying a 16'' impossible, just delays it

[ivory mural]

if there is any small gaps in the clouds or if they arent super thick take photo

but if its just giant wall, sleep

[static sapphire]

Look at my photo from a previous one and sleep

[ivory mural]

your 3 inch inch altaz frac

[brisk copper]

your 3 inch inch altaz frac

[uneven shore]

Go all in

[cerulean elm]

3rd option. Sell the GTI and buy an EQ6-R

[urban quiver]

no

[cerulean elm]

Bigger is better

[undone sinew]

Option A:
Downgrade all my planned filter and filter wheel purchases to 1.25” removing my ability to upgrade from an IMX533 to an IMX571 + not get pixinsight so that I can buy a good pc

Option B:
Keep my filters at 36mm for future-proofing and also get pixinsight but not get the pc (my current computer is just a small laptop)

[urban quiver]

What’s the PC for? What’s your currency pc specs

[undone sinew]

i want the new pc mostly so i can process data faster and have a better, longer-lasting pc

For the specs

Wait i have

An image

I need to find it

All i know is that the cpu is integrated

[urban quiver]

Huh?

I think you mean GPU

[undone sinew]

gpu**

typo

Okay here

[urban quiver]

Alright integrated is all I needed to hear tbh

Your laptop sucks

And a lot of processing software requires a good GPU…. Or at least A GPU

[undone sinew]

i basically use it for everything so thats why i wanna switch

The performance is alright, but i know its generally pretty lowend

[urban quiver]

You won’t be able to run most denoise or sharpening tbh

Or it’ll take like 10 hours

[undone sinew]

idk about the filters though

[urban quiver]

You literally have no GPU

[undone sinew]

if i buy 1.25” then theres no way im upgrading my camera for a loooong time

[undone sinew]

it still works

[urban quiver]

Is there a reason you’d want to upgrade cameras anyways? You have a 533

You need a new pc

[undone sinew]

I dont have a 533 i plan on getting it alongside the filters

But a 571 would be a lot better

[urban quiver]

a 533 is fine for majority of people. I love mine

You can always sell it and the filters to upgrade

[undone sinew]

Oh yeah

Actually i have an idea

ill check good pre-built pcs that are discounted

and see if i can buy a good one alongside everything i plan on getting for the telescope

how much does one usually cost

not extremely high end but still like a good pc

[urban quiver]

Probably $800-$1200 USD

Idk euro prices. I do know a good bit from PCs though. DM me a link and i can tell you if it’s good or not

[undone sinew]

alright if i ever find a pc ill just dm you for feedback

thx

[static sapphire]

Most procressing software doesn't need a discrete GPU, even blurX etc. you can run without one

Like Pix or SIRIL literally don't use the GPU for preprocessing, aligning, stacking or any non-"AI" processing

The bottleneck for stacking is I/O speed, so what helps most is a fast SSD and lots of RAM

[urban quiver]

Yea but hardware acceleration helps a lot. No GPU means like 40 minutes to run stuff

I remember GraXpert ignoring my GPU going for my integrated GPU, it took like an hour to run. With my GPU it’s like 2 minutes

[late summit]

Yeah with Blurx it legitimately took minutes to run just on my cpu vs a few seconds with my gpu

[static sapphire]

My point is it only helps for certain operations, but won’t help at all with stacking (which is the biggest time sink)

[limpid geode]

Dead

[restive fiber]

heheh

[brisk copper]

its not my personal favourite

[swift heart]

I am not super interested in doing it myself but I want to drag my artist friends to a dark site with me and see what kind of magic they work

[ivory mural]

we have control over money constraints

we can't control our time

(i mean like clouds and stuff not being busy)

[quasi cedar]

i mean both kinda go hand in hand, no?

[plucky vigil]

holy hell

[delicate lance]

how much int would you get

[restive fiber]

Bruh

[static sapphire]

fwiw elephant needs more int than the others

[deep mesa]

what’s it about

[plucky vigil]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1412439465158381608 here's more info but the thread is getting pretty crowded lol. Its like, an astrophotography tycoon almost, image, get gear, minigames, build and customise your area (and your rig), move to new locations and get insane gear.

(you start with a phone)

hoping to just continuously keep adding depth to the game, i started it a few days ago, never programmed before, its going well though

might have a demo by the end of next week potentially

it will be very limited, but a proof of concept to the community

i really want it to be fun

[mint talon]

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/892466401/ so basically this but like, good

[vagrant basin]

Damn doesn't sound bad

[zealous cloak]

At least 10h Ha, 15h Sii and 20-25h Oiii for the SHOs. And for m31 id go to a bortle 3 and get 20h of BB and 10h of NB

[plucky vigil]

telescope tycoon 2!?!?!? id hate to see what 1 looked like

but yes, it will be that but much better and deeper

[mint talon]

telescope tycoon 1 was a main menu with a start button. when you pressed the start button it all disappeared. that is the entire gameplay

[plucky vigil]

oh wow lmao

i wonder what they are doing now

[limpid geode]

Buying telescopes off of Amazon smh

[mint talon]

that was me lol

so like, doing ok ig

[plucky vigil]

no way lol

why not keep developing

[sudden locust]

Only if it has a film astrophotography feature.

[cerulean elm]

Heart in SHO. The elephants Trunk Nebula is gonna age you two years

[plucky vigil]

@mint talon why did you not ever take this further

[mint talon]

idk i was like 10

schoolday ended

[plucky vigil]

Make a new one

Competitor

[mint talon]

maybe I'll update the 2nd one

[young quail]

Yeah the few clear skies a year i seem to get is the reason why I dont do long integration, dont want to spend 2 years to get 30 hours and thats 2 years of nothing but shooting the same thing every clear night i dont have that patience for that

[ivory mural]

i get like 5 clear skies a month max

usually less

id call that almost always

[young quail]

Im lucky to image once a month

[ivory mural]

same

at one point i went 5 months without a usable clear night

[young quail]

Same

[ivory mural]

exactly 😭

whenever i do get a clear night i always end up getting like 3 hrs max on any one target

since i dont want to waste the opportunity only doing one when i might not be able to do anything else for the whole season

[young quail]

Yeah i still only have 8 hours on my na nebula, still waiting for a clear night to get more but its already been how many weeks..... might switch targets i can only look at the same thing for so long before I get "bored" and want to go to something else still showing clouds for the foreseeable future oh a few clear skies during the day but going back to clouds by night so typical

[ivory mural]

also its like the moon is a cloud repellant

the skies only ever clear up when its near full moon

[young quail]

Oh i actually never noticed for myself, I just ignore the moon dont care if its full if its clear I have to image regardless ill just go to the opposite direction from the moon

[ivory mural]

well yeah im still going to image, clear skies are too rare to not image when the moon is out

but what i meant is its just annoying

[young quail]

Oh yeah for sure it is

[ivory mural]

if it was gonna clear up why not during any other moon phase

[plucky vigil]

Please do

Or join my team 😈

[mint talon]

its code is also horrible so probably not

[mint talon]

nah i don't have much interest in coding

[plucky vigil]

Lmao

[plucky vigil]

I haven’t written a single line 🤷‍♂️

[plucky vigil]

Or like developing in general, or is it just the coding you don’t like

[mint talon]

development in general

[mint talon]

nice game ashen did your mom (chatgpt) make it for you

[plucky vigil]

Chats does the scripts I want it too yes

[plucky vigil]

booo hater

[mint talon]

im gonna vibe code ur mom

[plucky vigil]

What

[limpid geode]

Can't wait to brutally pick your game apart by playing it wrong

[ivory mural]

gonna speedrun it

[limpid geode]

Same

Quintillion shouldn't be too hard

[plucky vigil]

Hahahahaha

[fallen obsidian]

damn you're unlucky

I get like 3 clear nights a week

sometimes 4

[glacial bear]

Look at you blessed with more than 3 a year

[plucky vigil]

if; ‘name’ = [toadragethe5th]
set(income); 0.01%

||I have no idea how C# works but it looks right||

[ivory mural]

i said max

if i am EXTREMELY lucky i can get 5 in a month

usually it is 0-1

[hybrid echo]

fr it was coded by chatgpt
there gonna be some mad exploits

[restive fiber]

Made it 3 days because I don't want a ping on Sunday

[glacial bear]

@restive fiber how about a ping on Saturday evening?

[plucky vigil]

Honestly I reckon the code will be / ish pretty solid

Pre alpha should find most of the big exploits and if there’s anything big I might wipe before beta/full release, we’ll see

[tender hollow]

ashen do you have any coding experience beyond chatgpt

[plucky vigil]

Very little lol. Why?

[tender hollow]

just curious

if chatgpt makes a mistake your only option is to yell at it

[plucky vigil]

Pretty much, I’ve been there lol. I know enough to be able to debug but depending on the issue (generally ui based stuff) it can take a while

[obsidian plover]

I leave it out overnight while I sleep so normal

[sharp berry]

same

[static sapphire]

I just set it up and then remotely program sequence and maybe check on the first few subs. Can easily do this from inside the house on my phone or iPad. Can even do EAA while idk sitting in the bathtub.

[marble hearth]

Same but when astrodark lasts for 4-5 hrs there's not much sleep I can get while imaging :')

[desert obsidian]

Finish setting up at 10, stay up until 1 to make sure guiding and focus are good, go to sleep, wake up for meridian flip, then wake up at 5/6 to pack up and go back home before i get kicked out

[fallen obsidian]

Set up by 7:30(winter) stay out until 11:30

[woeful ivy]

it says CLEAR AT 2am

PLEASEEEEEEEE

[brisk copper]

mydogiscutemeow is an amazing username

[plucky vigil]

Hahaha ask @mint talon

[brisk copper]

its bobs username?!

[plucky vigil]

I think

They said they made it

[mint talon]

yea, it was the main one i used before i came up with bobjonesisthebest

[brisk copper]

thats highly silly

[mint talon]

i think i was in like 4th grade when i made it lol

[brisk copper]

you will never guess what my main username before my new one is

[mint talon]

well yea i dont need to guess, its in your connections

[brisk copper]

damn, what was it

[mint talon]

ateagod lol, unless you had one before that

[brisk copper]

damn, you got it

i was ateagod before i became a cool person

[limpid geode]

Orion doesn't have statfislds

[undone sinew]

You guys make me sick

[vagrant basin]

cant think of any more

[ivory mural]

who the hell is voting super moon

[bronze minnow]

moon glazers

[woeful ivy]

super nova on the betelgeus please

[undone sinew]

AAAAAA

[mint talon]

ehehehehehehheheheehehee

[undone sinew]

ORION FANS ASSEMBLE WE MUST TAKE DOWN THESE CYGNUS LOSERS

[cold moon]

Cygnus is better and it's not even close

[hybrid echo]

its a low bar to be better than orion tbf

[undone sinew]

bro cygnus and orion are like the only two S-tier constellations everything else is mid

All other constellations dont even have 3 or more well known objects in them

When i say orion is better than cygnus im not saying cygnus is bad im just saying orion is slightly better

The objects are just better idk what else to say

[hybrid echo]

The reason they are well known is cause they have bright, large targets. Everywhere else has smaller, and more interesting targets

[undone sinew]

virgo is the best constellation because it has ngc 4753

[hybrid echo]

still dont rlly get what you like about that lil guy so much

[undone sinew]

You need to stare at it for 5 uninterrupted minutes to understand

[fallen obsidian]

tbh we need someone to shoot LDN 43

[undone sinew]

hooooly shiiiit

crazy nebula

[hybrid echo]

no thanks

[undone sinew]

your loss

[static sapphire]

People who don’t vote for meteor shower have never seen a good one

[late summit]

I have yet to even see a "shooting star"

Don't know how badly light pollution affects how much you can see them naked eye, but I'm willing to bet it's a big part of my problem

[delicate lance]

[static sapphire]

One we saw a few years back was so bright it lit up the inside of our house in reds and greens

[ivory mural]

i saw tons of bright shooting stars but they don't compare to the other events

it's just a super bright white streak

and done in an instant

[late summit]

I can't tell if this is a joke or not

[static sapphire]

It is not

[late summit]

Is this something I'm too high bortle to understand or too stupid to get

[delicate lance]

Shooting stars aren’t the same as fireballs

I see more fascination in supernovae, eclipses and aurorae than meteor showers

It makes you feel immersed

It makes astronomy feel real

[ivory mural]

october 10 man

[delicate lance]

Yeah that’s a fireball

Those are cool

[ivory mural]

was so crazy

[static sapphire]

It was during a meteor shower

[delicate lance]

A meteor shower doesn’t guarantee a fireball it just heightens the chance of one

A lot of fireballs happen outside of meteor showers

[ivory mural]

ive seen hundreds of meteors never a fireball

[static sapphire]

Also if you have meteor shower with a visible shppting star every few seconds is spectacular 🙂

[delicate lance]

Like the one in Portugal that plunged in the ocean

[delicate lance]

What I find spectatular is seeing the bright one which leave smoke

Thats cool

Otherwise they are kinda interesting but not something I would compare to the otherw

[late summit]

too bad i was doing anything but looking at the sky that day

[ivory mural]

was this a satellite or a meteor

[delicate lance]

Meteor prob

I saw a handful in my fov while doing visual during perseids

[zealous cloak]

Cepheus is goated

[vagrant basin]

Ive defo seen good one they bit overrated cuz news say you see up to 100 reality you'll see like 20-30 per hour still sick tho

[static sapphire]

This is what I want to see some time

[vagrant basin]

Dang

Ohh its the great leonid meteor shower

[static sapphire]

https://www.space.com/greatest-meteor-storms-in-history

[brisk copper]

i will knock the sygnus wall over and onto your head

[swift heart]

...bruh did you forget Sagittarius, Carina, Vela, Cassiopeia, Cepheus, Virgo, Perseus, or Monoceros

[fallen obsidian]

They are second, a good shooting star can be really exciting, especially if it breaks into multiple pieces

[fallen obsidian]

I once saw a shooting star I presume, but it was super fast and it left a lingering very colorful trail, way faster than other shooting stars

[restive fiber]

What is that?

[restive fiber]

Why so many clouds?

[limpid geode]

Hydra
Leo
Canes venatici
Cassiopeia
Literally any constellation along the milky way

Orion is only talked about because it's the brightest and the only one non-stargazers know

[sharp berry]

[zealous cloak]

Multiple times a month

[static sapphire]

right now: can't because weather, and it's been bad since almost the beginning of year. otherwise: 3-5 days/week

[undone sinew]

fine assuming you have very good weather most of the time

[vagrant basin]

Aurora

[restive fiber]

Oh, you have the same role as me

[desert obsidian]

Its never clear raaah

[proud quarry]

however often i can

[urban quiver]

Both

[static sapphire]

I mean the ASIAIR stored to a microSD, but I'm transferring it to my computer via Wi-Fi and then store a backup on a my NAS

[tidal tundra]

Internal drive?

Mini pc…

[tender hollow]

Neither

My data is transferred by RoboCopy

[brisk copper]

even on regular times i see them

[limpid geode]

"Never"

[lofty jetty]

Ok this may be really really stupid but

[late summit]

Not even a question

coughing baby vs nuclear bomb

[lofty jetty]

I just dont wanna regret anything

[late summit]

My gti has real good guiding, I get sub 1rms nearly every single night that I shoot

Even if you had a perfect GTi, I'd still take a EQ5 with Onstep

I'd swap mine out in an instant without second thought

[urban quiver]

I’m totally not bias at all. Please buy my gti

[lofty jetty]

:3

If i cant find a seller for the eq5 within a week or two ill get the gti

Ill make that two or 3 weeks since everyone is voting against it

[urban quiver]

you can negotiate the price too lol

[late summit]

eq5+onstep will be 300-350 for him and have double of the gti's weight capacity

think u can top that

[late summit]

horrible decision

[zealous cloak]

Impatience doesn't get you far in astrophotography

[late summit]

are those 2 weeks gonna be the difference between you getting really good images and not getting good images?

[zealous cloak]

Just wait for a good deal @lofty jetty

[late summit]

Don't hold yourself back with a bad mount because you wanted to take images 2 weeks sooner

[urban quiver]

the gti is a good mount and I’m including accessories 🙁

[zealous cloak]

The gti is a good mount for dslrs and low weight lenses

[urban quiver]

Have you seen my rig

[late summit]

we're talking 300-350 USD for a EQ5 with goto vs a GTi that has a max load capacity of 5kg and planetary gearing

[lofty jetty]

And thats what im gonna be using for a while, the gti is only temporary
But ill follow the crowd and get the eq5 I guess 😭

[zealous cloak]

Its a fact, idc what rig you have

[urban quiver]

well it works perfectly fine on my 10 pound rig sooo

Clearly not a fact then

[zealous cloak]

[late summit]

it's fine to wanna sell your GTi but don't go out of your way trying to convince someone who's about to get a good mount to buy your GTi instead

[late summit]

10 pounds is less than the gti's load capacity

the eq5 is rated up to 22lbs

[urban quiver]

I just don’t see how people sell EQ-5s for that

[late summit]

Because it's a cheap mount without tracking

[urban quiver]

Has anyone actually tested it

[late summit]

what

there's so many people running eq5's with onstep kits

[urban quiver]

no I meant getting the eq-5

For that price

[late summit]

yes

Zeg has one, a lot of people on cloudynights get them for that cheap too

he paid 150 for his

[lofty jetty]

Bump #1379949653990309978 message

[urban quiver]

But then why are gtis going for $500

[late summit]

because they are overpriced when bought new

people don't wanna lose 70% of the money they paid for theirs

would you get rid of your gti for 150?

[urban quiver]

no lol

I’d just use it for a 2nd rig at that point

I don’t WANT to sell it. It’s just to help me get closer to the ragdoll

[zealous cloak]

Not trying to offend you or any other star tracker users but I only see copium around them

[late summit]

Exactly, EQ5's sold for much cheaper and there's a LOT more of them compared to GTi's

[lofty jetty]

@late summit @zealous cloak if I get the eq5 + onstep, would that reduce the need to get a ragdoll later on? Is the ragdoll that big of an improvement?

[zealous cloak]

Yes and yes

[urban quiver]

Harmonic would be a lot lighter and convenient

No counter weights needed for most rigs

[lofty jetty]

True

[lofty jetty]

Sorry guys, im buying this

[urban quiver]

please be a joke

[lofty jetty]

Its such a good deal

(Yes its a joke)

[late summit]

What Hugo said, the EQ5 will actually serve you for a good while

You won't be stuck to 10lbs max payloads

[lofty jetty]

Nice

Does the EQ5 have any electronics i should worry about or is it just gears?

[late summit]

In what way?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCLHg1gu6eM

This is for the Exos 2 but essentially the same thing

[lofty jetty]

Internally, unrelated to onstep

I doubt it does, just making sure

[late summit]

you don't gotta worry about that

check the video though so you know beforehand how to install onstep

[lofty jetty]

I will, tysm

[white roost]

@brisk copper

[brisk copper]

@mint talon vote no

thamku :3

[lofty jetty]

Absolutely not

[ivory mural]

tea is dangerous

[white roost]

Yes very

[lofty jetty]

alright gang, so im probably not getting my $300 soon and certainly not tonight but I remembered that I have $200 left to spend so

[hybrid echo]

im weird i use my lan network

[lofty jetty]

I'm gonna negotiate it down anyway, i just want to know how much lmao

@late summit @tender hollow

I trust your guys' opinion on this the most 😭

[glacial bear]

I bought mine new for $700. She's done well

[tender hollow]

You don't even use polar scopes in 2025 for astrophotography, so it's good
How much is the shipping fee, or is that with everything included already?

[late summit]

^What Zegery said

I don't think I used the polar scope on my mount once

[lofty jetty]

Ill ask about shipping, if I cant get a better offer within a day or two ill contact him

And I can always just buy a polar scope for it

[tender hollow]

you definitely don't need a polar scope

but yes you can

[lofty jetty]

My main problem is if I dont have a minipc, I cant polar align

[tender hollow]

what do you intend to control your rig with now?

[lofty jetty]

Ill probably be able to get a minipc so thats what ill control it with, otherwise an app (perks of being broke)

[tender hollow]

actually what is your rig?

[lofty jetty]

Nikon d7500, ioptron skytracker (the OG one, its OLD), and a roki 135

Oh and a remote shutter release

I've got my use out of the mount and am going to crash out if I deal with it any more lmao

[glacial bear]

If you have at least a Onstep.

[hybrid echo]

you can drift align with no mini pc
and some folks swear by drift aligning and even say its better than software

[lofty jetty]

Ill look it up, ty

UPDATE: the guy said he could drop it to 125 if I had a "ups account"

[glacial bear]

It's a legit thing. Not sure I'd want to do it for $25

[lofty jetty]

Does it cut shipping costs or? Doesn't make much sense, if I'm the one paying for and printing the label then why would he give me a discount

[glacial bear]

Not sure to be honest. I know it exists, it's something that UPS offers me whenever I'm tracking a package from them.

It's worth it to the seller to cut $25 off of the price, the real question is if it's worth a $25 cut to you. Unfortunately I don't know. I would think that they'd want to offer more attractive rates to the folks who sign up with them. 🤷

[lofty jetty]

A bit confusing but ill go with it lol

[rain void]

Bandpass shift?

[cerulean elm]

the filters i have are for f5, so f4 might shift them

[swift heart]

Where is the glorious Ritchey–Chrétien?

[rain void]

Preshifted filters aren't really necessary for f4 tho

[swift heart]

Eh, f/5 to f/4 shouldn't be a huge deal

[cerulean elm]

i wouldn't have money for new filters brother 😭

[rain void]

That's what I'm saying?

I'm saying it's not necessary so don't switch them out

[cerulean elm]

Fair

[cerulean elm]

A friend has the Q150P and uses the same filters as me, and he said that he only noticed the shift with far objects. I'm assuming it was the redshift of the object, plus the bandpass shift of the faster telescope

[summer turret]

🚮

[cold moon]

TS-Optics 8" ONTC

[cerulean elm]

Nope

[brisk copper]

@static sapphire what your opinion?

[uneven shore]

I think he kind of was the major contributor in this whole thing

[cold moon]

That's what a brokie would say

[quasi cedar]

Can I have $5

[cold moon]

Damn I'm gone for a day and there's server drama? Tell me everything immediately.

[cerulean elm]

I am broke. I got... 2.50€ on my name

[uneven shore]

Ok well you know how Charlie Kirk was murdered, well good old Thomas was passing it off and calling him a Nazi

Diminishing him postmortem

And when we pulled him up he defended himself

And banned phunky diabetic

[brisk copper]

i think he eepy sleepy

america eepy sleepy i thinks

[quasi cedar]

Incorrect, I'm in merica and I'm awake

It's only 4:33 am here

[cold moon]

I don't agree with most of the political views he had but I don't walk around talking bad of the dead

[cold moon]

"only", what astrophotography does to a man

[quasi cedar]

I haven't done ap since mid August, I am just up for the sake of insomnia

[uneven shore]

Yep

I don’t care what he believed, Charlie didn’t deserve to die

[brisk copper]

o oka

bobs going to be awake soon :D

[quasi cedar]

Bob sleeps?!

[brisk copper]

i know!

its insane

[brisk copper]

i wouldn't even talk bad about Terry the terrible

[quasi cedar]

Are you referring to Ivan the terrible? The guy that dracula is based off of?

[brisk copper]

nooo

terry a davis

[cerulean elm]

Ivan the what?

[cerulean elm]

Dracula is based on Vlad the III-rd. also known as Vlad Țepeş or Dracula (mainly named so by foreigners)

[cerulean elm]

Wtf is this all about?

[uneven shore]

So you know how Charlie Kirk was murdered?

And then he doubled down

And banned someone who called him out

[marble hearth]

Can someone explain who Charlie kirk is?

[uneven shore]

Just a dinglewad that liked to debate

Didn’t agree with him but he didn’t deserve to die

[zealous cloak]

Gonna get polls closed once again

[split tinsel]

Not on my watch

[shy hull]

Its a simple question that lets people know how the community feels imo...

[zealous cloak]

[plucky vigil]

Nah man

That ain’t it

Move convo to general

[split tinsel]

Humans are not pawns to eliminate for political ideologies. End of...

[zealous cloak]

I see a lot of hypocrisy around this topic tho

[shy hull]

moving it to gen chat btw, easier

[white roost]

People shouldn’t be killed at all and especially for there political views

[split tinsel]

I deleted the comment that I was refering to

[tidal tundra]

Maybe stop or move this convo

[limpid geode]

Damn, I forgot to vote NO on the poll

[desert obsidian]

Yes but I’ve never done visual with it

[shy hull]

Do you know the reason of it?

[limpid geode]

I have the utmost condolences for his family. I don't wish death on him, and if I'm shitting on him it's not because he died, it's because he was a horrible person in life

[swift heart]

wish this poll was open because I support blaspheming all fascists, Charlie Kirk included.

[limpid geode]

Yep

[shy hull]

Saying "he had it coming" isnt the same as saying you think he was a bad person

[quaint locust]

Hi

[shy hull]

Its literally saying you think he deserved to die

[limpid geode]

He did

[quaint locust]

So this is where the action is taking place

[shy hull]

To be clear, you think he deserved to die?

[split tinsel]

What was being said was relevant to the poll posted. I will not police that. I will police people making inappropriate jokes.

[tidal tundra]

Poll was apropriate?

[split tinsel]

Yes. Community input due to a abhorrent comment made by a fellow moderator is fair and open for discussion.

[shell marsh]

Tbf, it shouldnt even be necessary with a poll.

A person stating that someone deserves to die due to different opinions should not be in any mode of responsibility of other people. Thomas has himself said he enjoys "artful trolling" and he does actively bait people into topics with pure intention of banning or giving time outs if they disagree with his personal opinion.

Opinions are great but acting on it as it is the truth and give consequences to those who disagree is insane, and he's been allowed to do it for ages. It's manipulation and abuse of the role. He should have been yeeted by the staff ages ago.

[gentle shuttle]

Wtf

[swift heart]

If this particular topic is considered off-limits for the server, I fully understand (we are an astrophotography server), but any semblance of "neutrality" regarding Charlie Kirk, his openly racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic views, and the immense harm he has done to the society I live in is a terrible position for a moderation team to take.

[cerulean elm]

Tbf... fck politics. Why are we discussing this?

[split tinsel]

While I agree with everything you have said here, I also believe in members voicing their opinions on this matter. It is putrid behaviour

[shy hull]

Because it was brought up by a moderator in a way that isn't appropriate in my opinion.
As a part of the community I am stating that I disagree with that behaviour...its quite simple...ignoring it doesnt help anyone

[zealous cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-7848683

[shell marsh]

Which is also very fair and what makes a community balanced and not a dictatorship. But the harassment from his side has been ongoing for very long and it has been proven time after time that stating your opinion gets punished, so I would believe alot of people dont want to take the risk of voting and get yeeted due to it.

[mint talon]

dammit what idiot made a poll about that

[split tinsel]

I will stand up for and protect those people, for soever long I have the power to do so.

[mint talon]

at least put it in off topic polls

[quaint locust]

So is this about the poll

The poll about sacking Thomas?

[split tinsel]

Do not start about polls Bob. You are not in a position to judge

[uneven shore]

That idiotnhas a name

[mint talon]

im just worried about this thread being locked for the 5th time lol

[split tinsel]

Again, with your history, you do NOT get to judge

[rain void]

I both prefer higher aperture AND lower magnification so this is easy

[mint talon]

fair

[rain void]

Basically "would you like a faster scope?"

[mint talon]

bob'l shut up now

[worthy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

[quaint locust]

I swear this guy wasnt mentioned once in this server until today

[tidal tundra]

@split tinsel any chance Thomas will leave or get kicked out?

[quaint locust]

I’d understand these types of talks if this was a political server

But its an astronomy server

[split tinsel]

I cannot say with any amount of certainty what will happen

[rain void]

Oh god what did I open up, why are we hating on Thomas now?

[zealous cloak]

This should've been kept in broken biscuits.

[summer turret]

brudda didnt you see what happened 12hrs ago?

[shy hull]

Its not hating on, it is discussing things that were said

[gentle shuttle]

Is he gone already?

I cant find his name

[rain void]

I don't think so?

[cold moon]

What's broken biscuits?

[tidal tundra]

No

[gentle shuttle]

o

[zealous cloak]

Oh nothing nothing

[tidal tundra]

What Thomas said should not have staid in bb

[cold moon]

Now? This behaviour was brought up multiple times

[tidal tundra]

People deserve to know what one of the most active mods is saying

[zealous cloak]

I'm not saying otherwise

[quaint locust]

Or fixed biscuits

[zealous cloak]

He acted stupidly

[quaint locust]

The pro biscuit lands

[rain void]

what behavior 😭

[summer turret]

LADIES AND GNETLE MEN

WE HAVE GOTTON THOMAS TO LEAVE

[quaint locust]

What

Lol

[gentle shuttle]

yeah he is gone

[swift heart]

Yeah it looks like he left

[summer turret]

HES GONE

LETS GOOOO

[tidal tundra]

I can still see him

[quaint locust]

Not his first time doing this, he’ll be back again

[quaint locust]

Should we invite him to the small indie server

[summer turret]

NO HES GONE

[summer turret]

no.

[quaint locust]

Lol

[tidal tundra]

“He had it coming”
(/hj)

[summer turret]

yea screw him

[cold moon]

Stating his political views constantly violating the rules of the server while banning/timing out people that disagree? Yeah, that behaviour

[split tinsel]

Ok team, Thomas has left. That is the end of discussion

[tidal tundra]

You remember the Wordle debacle

Crazy stuff

[cold moon]

That's like, the least important stuff tho

[tidal tundra]

Just shows he likes the power

[summer turret]

did you ban him?

[split tinsel]

Let's end it there

[tidal tundra]

Don’t think mods can ban other mods lol

[split tinsel]

it does not need to be discussed further

[quaint locust]

Bag beans

[rain void]

Race

[summer turret]

[somber belfry]

banbag comin in clutch

[cerulean elm]

Yaaayyyy! Quattro it is then

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[late summit]

Ty

[plucky vigil]

What happened?

[summer turret]

scat attack

[plucky vigil]

Wait fr? How did they have perms

Was it the acc from before lol

[summer turret]

forums have perms

[plucky vigil]

ahh

[summer turret]

yea its the pickle me fiddlesticks guy