Polls 5.0

[undone sinew]

I think

[brisk copper]

why are you razoring grand

that's rude

[undone sinew]

Fine ill pick a better emoji

[ivory mural]

🪒

[undone sinew]

Perfect

[static sapphire]

So first off, we sometimes miss things we should moderate, we’re just human beings though just to be fair mods are probably a bit further along the path to being superhuman than protostars

[brisk copper]

so you're saying the mrrow poll is low quality :<

[ivory mural]

No

[undone sinew]

this is the second time you guys have taken down my joke poll and both polls were almost identical

[brisk copper]

what was the poll?

[desert obsidian]

He shall be banished to the shadow realm

[undone sinew]

The text i wrote on it was just the preview text that discord adds when making a poll

like “Add your answer” or whateve

not interesting or anything but still at the same level as many other joke polls posted here

[brisk copper]

so, a pointless poll?

[undone sinew]

arent the polls i mentioned also pointless

[static sapphire]

Skill issue

[brisk copper]

no, the meow poll is very important

[undone sinew]

True but what about the hello poll

[undone sinew]

can i at least make the poll again

[brisk copper]

that too

[brisk copper]

no :<

[ivory mural]

are you saying it's not important to greet people properly?

[undone sinew]

Here everybody wins

[brisk copper]

@static sapphire

[undone sinew]

NO

please no if this poll is deleted my entire neighborhood will burn down

[brisk copper]

dramatic

[ivory mural]

arson

[static sapphire]

Again, please keep it on topic at least in spirit

[brisk copper]

[ivory mural]

espirit

[brisk copper]

espirit????

[ivory mural]

yes

new esprit

[undone sinew]

80% of the messages here are believe it or not off topic

i dont get why you care so much its not like this thread has any predefined rules its just for polls

[ivory mural]

lokaton fym seeing you live in b9

[desert obsidian]

Me like sharp

[brisk copper]

im b4 with awful seeing

[ivory mural]

sharp dont matter if u can't see the thing

[desert obsidian]

Imagine Tom’s seeing

[ivory mural]

in b7 with awful seeing🥳

except last few night idk what's been happening

[brisk copper]

i would rather be in b9 with amazing seeing

[desert obsidian]

Im b9 with horrid seeing 🎉

[ivory mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234984645884641351/1401809827570778203/20250804-0611-23.4808247.mp4?ex=689cd563&is=689b83e3&hm=55c543a9d6d249b27d1cda715638da7e9e4a1e515ca07d959c7fad1c20a51b39& i been getting this type of amazing seeing

[desert obsidian]

Thats good

[ivory mural]

that was at like 20 degrees too

[brisk copper]

when ir pass filter?

[late summit]

id show you what ive been getting but my usb drive died with 36gb of moon data and 6gb of saturn

[desert obsidian]

Damn bro

[ivory mural]

💔

[desert obsidian]

You can see it. I see stuff from b9

[ivory mural]

usb drive dying is crazy im still using a decade old drive fine

[brisk copper]

NOOO

[late summit]

i am pissed because it took me 2 hours to get anything on saturn, i am blind af and its hard for me to spot planets when the moon's as bright as it is

[ivory mural]

but you need 2 thousand hours

[brisk copper]

i once got 200 gig of moon data

[late summit]

if i wanted to be stupid i could probably have gotten 200gb too, i was shooting at the max fps my 585 could handle at full res

[undone sinew]

literally why

[ivory mural]

i hate shooting moon bc the things so damn big

[brisk copper]

same

[ivory mural]

can't crop so you're stuck at low fps and giant files

[desert obsidian]

Sounds like something a refractor user would say

[brisk copper]

i need to try boot my linux drive off of a laptop

wish me luck guys

[ivory mural]

i would rather use a frac in b6 than a sct in b9

[brisk copper]

why not just use rct in b9!

[ivory mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697450809847316540/1396841981589586033/attachment-17.gif

+imx715!

[desert obsidian]

Cause you lose a bit of sharpness

[brisk copper]

wdym, rct sharper than sct

[desert obsidian]

Huh?

[undone sinew]

why do so many people here have rainbows in their name what do those even mean

[ivory mural]

sct dum

rcs are cheaper and sharper

[desert obsidian]

Sct is more zoomed in

[brisk copper]

ficken gay

[late summit]

pride representation

[ivory mural]

drizzle

[late summit]

at least me, idk if grand's that too

[ivory mural]

focal length doesn't matter

[undone sinew]

it reminds me of people being called tyking

[static sapphire]

I like rainbows

[brisk copper]

thats what i assumed it was

[brisk copper]

cool :D

i do too

[desert obsidian]

Still when you are natively more zoomed in, the more you can resolve (according to me)

[static sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/nyan-cat-rainbow-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5716621

[hybrid echo]

clicking auto 4 times in siril is like 90% of the way to the skill ceiling

[ivory mural]

just get the 45000 dollar vaonis hyperia smh

[hybrid echo]

you can mostly only go down in skill
i mean
have you guys seen astrobin

[tender hollow]

I seen people with $100k observatories take worse images than the average #1127675764356173885

Skill bottlenecks gear but it also goes the other way around

[dense perch]

Yes

[rain void]

In the beginning, gear over skill
In the end, skill over gear

[cerulean elm]

Gear and skill should grow hand in hand.

[proud quarry]

Sometimes I see photos that must have the most beatiful, high resolution, low noise data... then the processing looks like they smudged it on the pavement

WHY IS IT SO SHARP????

sharpen tool to 259% if I touch that shit i would need a tetanus shot

[cerulean elm]

Imagine ypu had no clue about this hobby or what you are looking at. That what those people are relying on... an audience that has not a single clue what they are looking at, or what it should look like

[proud quarry]

They would think we are mental

[hybrid echo]

i mean
not would
they do
every interaction between the chad reality preservers and the virgin topaz clippers, we hate each other

[swift heart]

So there's not a huge point in shooting H-beta, but it tells you about two things:

• The temperature of the ionizing source (you need higher temperature to get significant H-beta emission)
• The degree of extinction between the source and us

H-beta isn't really useful for getting a pretty image, but it is useful for doing science

[brisk copper]

:3

[brisk copper]

topaz ai users are weird

[marble hearth]

Idk if its been asked before but here it is anyways

[brisk copper]

0.3s subs my beloved

[summer turret]

3min subs unguided

[static sapphire]

30 min sub 🙂

[desert obsidian]

For IR?!??!

[brisk copper]

:>

[brisk copper]

car :D

[marble hearth]

1 gust of wind and 10% of all data from that night gone 😭

[static sapphire]

skill issue

[delicate lance]

this looks better than my visual does

movement-wise

[static sapphire]

I usually don’t go to 30’ because conditions need to be really good for it; I’m mostly leaving it at 10-20’ for narrowband

[swift heart]

Do you start having issues with star saturation with subs that long?

[static sapphire]

Usually no with narrowband

Some brighter stars create halos

[ivory mural]

either the 10 or 16

imo push to is a waste of money

[delicate lance]

to clarify its argo navis

[delicate lance]

also these all cost the same

[delicate lance]

mmm

[proud quarry]

Go big or go home mf

I say that and I pussied out on an 8"

[ivory mural]

just depends on you

personally I don't care how heavy a scope is, id use a 16" every night

[delicate lance]

my general concern is how easy it is to use

[ivory mural]

but ik some people wouldn't even want an 8"

[delicate lance]

its a long focal length

[ivory mural]

how much

[late summit]

I feel like at some point dobsonians become too big to use untracked

[ivory mural]

i heard past 3000 it's a pain but ive never done untracked with that much fl

[late summit]

That's me though, I am not great at shooting untracked with my dob

[ivory mural]

at 1500 though it's still very easy

[late summit]

I should get a guidescope instead of a finderscope on my dob, so I can actually see where I'm trying to point at

[delicate lance]

telrad moment

[ivory mural]

0x magnification doesn't help very much

[late summit]

yeah my issue is magnification, I am blind (literally) to the point where I can't spot saturn if it's anywhere close to the moon

[delicate lance]

telrad is very nice to get a rough start of where to point

while a fat finder scope (like 8x50mm) will help pinpoint

[late summit]

My sister doesn't struggle at all to spot the planets regardless of how bright or close the moon is, meanwhile I can't see jack

Would need magnification to help me out

[ivory mural]

(Tracking)

[late summit]

Maybe I can throw my old sv165 on the dob

[ivory mural]

finding stuff at 750 was hard but it was really just a lack of experience

[delicate lance]

is there not a program like starsense which takes the live feed to tell you where to move the thing to

[ivory mural]

last month it was super easy to find everything with just star hopping

[ivory mural]

there is but they arent very accurate

u could also get a guideacope with an astrocam and use sharpcap push to assistant

[delicate lance]

yk what could work

put camera on guidescope, use widefield eyepiece to find target w/ electronic assistance

switch eyepiece with camera to do lucky imaging

[ivory mural]

yea that's what i was saying

[delicate lance]

are there focal reducers for newtonians which dont f up the image

[ivory mural]

0.75x coma corrector

not exactly a cheap option tho

[ivory mural]

tea the person or tea the drink

actually it doesnt matter, either way the answer is no

[proud quarry]

Tea is an idea

A concept

Perhaps a swarm of hyperintelligant crows that have collectively formed a human consciousness

[hybrid echo]

are we counting banned time

[limpid geode]

The silly little girl who meoweth

[ivory mural]

yeah either way the answer is no

tea is a voice who lives in all of our heads at once

[hybrid echo]

hey
You could make a religion outa that

[ivory mural]

isnt teas username a tea goddess?

yeah it is

[hybrid echo]

damn
Someone beat me into make a religion outta it

[swift heart]

That's why I have a laser finder and finderscope on my RC

Best of both worlds

Even though I have it on a GoTo mount

[undone sinew]

tea is a sociological study created by harvard university

[proud quarry]

@brisk copper are you real?

[hybrid echo]

they arent real so how can they respond

[cerulean elm]

It's a ghoul

[static sapphire]

Please keep it on topic and if you do joke-y polls show some more effort

[dense perch]

im trying my best 😢

[dense perch]

wow this is bullying im telling someone

[limpid geode]

Thor exke

[ivory mural]

used deals can vanish at any time

secure them first

[zealous cloak]

Every time i see you making a poll its you asking if you should buy different gear every single time

[delicate lance]

its to narrow down my choices

but as you wish ill do a valid or invalid now

[zealous cloak]

I'm just pointing it out and im saying it because its better for you to have a clear idea of what you want

[zealous cloak]

What im understanding is that the dob will only be used for planetary and/or visual?

[delicate lance]

yeah mainly

at some point lucky imaging would be sick but without an eq platform, that may get difficult

[zealous cloak]

In my opinion, visual is like planetary: there isn't a big amount of objects to enjoy, in the long run buying the 585M for AP will entertain you more. Just my opinion.

Also idk if you'd have to set and pack the dob up after every session, if so, that's something to keep in mind

[ivory mural]

i think there's tons to see in b5 with a fat dob

maybe if he was b7 I'd agree

[zealous cloak]

I agree, but you can't enjoy as many objects as you would with AP

[static sapphire]

This is called averted vision btw

[delicate lance]

i screw up the terms

so often

anyhow its a betrayal

[static sapphire]

Stupid evolution should have given us two petzval eyes

[remote sierra]

Still don't understand how it works

[ivory mural]

more rod cells on the outer edges of your retina i think

[remote sierra]

What's the point evolution just hates humans Istg, firstly useless organ that just explodes, then useless teeth that don't even fit and now useless eye rods positions 🥀

[delicate lance]

that has a reason

[cold moon]

It's harder to miss something when you aren't looking at it so those areas are more sensitive

[ivory mural]

none of them are useless

[delicate lance]

It needs to be more sensitive in the area since it isnt focused

sadly though its also the reason i think i have schizophrenia

[summer turret]

Have you done lobster nebula?

[sharp berry]

Broig

Borig

Boring

[summer turret]

Smc

Do both bb and nb

[marble hearth]

Shoot the perseids meteors

[obsidian plover]

The point of origin is very very low and 90% of the time doesn't even rise past -20

[brisk copper]

hewwo :3

[delicate lance]

both good products but if you want to go for the superior one and have the money to then go with the sharpstar 1x

[ivory mural]

i have the money but i just dont wanna spend 300 dollars on a coma corrector

[delicate lance]

then go with the .95 its still a great corrector

[ivory mural]

thats what i was thinking

[delicate lance]

its time for another equipment poll

(both parabolic, just the quality of the optics)

[static sapphire]

In an average year about 290-300

[marble hearth]

What a flex

[frigid compass]

This year was average in terms of clear nights but this month has been amazing so far

[glacial bear]

Honestly a 24" UL GOTO Dob w/ great mirrors.

[delicate lance]

brother

[glacial bear]

What? 🙂

[delicate lance]

"would you rather own a volkswagen or toyota"

"ferrari for sure"

https://tenor.com/view/boom-cat-gif-12892056996301838631

[glacial bear]

😇 😁

[cerulean elm]

Would you rather own a VW or Toyota.... Guy chooses the one that scamms you the most
"Would you rather own P1 or Touptek? ZWO For Sure!"

[tender hollow]

Altair and Ogma are touptek rebrands

[delicate lance]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-bo-katan-youre-all-traitors-traitors-you-are-all-traitors-gif-25473211

[glacial bear]

Would rather be using Player One.

And I've seen Celestron astro cameras ... can't say that it instilled a lot of faith.

[cedar dome]

I would like to buy a player one for my C8

[ivory mural]

dob is altaz

[delicate lance]

dobsonian is alt AZ

[vagrant basin]

Sorry mb

These all I could think of

[delicate lance]

also a fork mount is both

[ivory mural]

dob can also be eq

wedge

[vagrant basin]

How does the wedge work?

[delicate lance]

yes but the classic dobsonian design is alt az

you can also make EQ mounts alt az

[ivory mural]

tilt the dob to align the azimuth with the celestial pole

[vagrant basin]

Does it align to polar star with the wedge

Ohh

Okok

[static sapphire]

looks like there’s a zwinner

[zealous cloak]

I'm a zwuser, against my will

[ivory mural]

Samsung🔥

oh dedicated astro cameras nvm

[cerulean elm]

Everyone goes for the Ferrari,
True kings go for the Rolls-Royce

[delicate lance]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bobby-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-18269382051844334745

[static sapphire]

Also Samsung pulled out of the camera market like 10 years ago?

[ivory mural]

my phone camera is made by them i think

[glacial bear]

❓

[delicate lance]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-danny-devito-clap-clapping-gif-17307367409868579769

[cold moon]

We should ban these users.

[glacial bear]

Why?

[ivory mural]

🟰

[glacial bear]

🙁

I need someone to send me a couple of Player Ones.

[limpid geode]

YEAH

Wait

[late summit]

Alright hold on

[cedar dome]

:(

[static sapphire]

[ivory mural]

what the hell am i looking at

exterminate it

[static sapphire]

but with RTX

[delicate lance]

minecraft vs irl ahh

[ivory mural]

yeah but WHY

[obsidian plover]

Where u guys living where u get under 30 bruh

[limpid geode]

Probably Alaska

[cedar dome]

Oregon

[urban quiver]

Pennsylvania 😭

[obsidian plover]

Oof

[urban quiver]

I guess I do get more than 30 but just barley

[undone sinew]

Why are you all glowing

[zealous cloak]

[proud quarry]

Scotland 😭

[zealous cloak]

Scoootland forevaaaaaa

[cedar dome]

Honestly this year has been rainy as hell

[zealous cloak]

Clear with thin smoke

[frigid compass]

Currently stormy but decent sunset

[fallen obsidian]

same

[frigid compass]

Oh cool, we are probably in the same area then

[swift heart]

I'm taking "eq" to mean German equatorial mount

[fallen obsidian]

we are in the same area

[frigid compass]

Oh nice! Though I’m not in the city, I use it as a weather reference, as I’m actually on LI.

[fallen obsidian]

im in westchester so were close

[frigid compass]

I’m in Nassau

So yeah we are close

[brisk copper]

none of you are helpful 😭

[vagrant basin]

Damn😅

[cold moon]

@limpid geode never speak to me again.

[pine shell]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[limpid geode]

Are we talking about the food or something else

Because meat on a stick is good

[cerulean elm]

4th option. Best thing humanity has ever invented 👏

[delicate lance]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-you-you-traitors-eren-transform-armored-titan-reiner-gif-24699071

[brisk copper]

woaw

[obsidian plover]

Ur eating it while doing astro of course

[urban quiver]

tf is HSP

[obsidian plover]

Bruh 😭 Ur missing out on so much

Halal snack pack consisting of meat, sauce and chips.

[urban quiver]

no

[late summit]

why not

it sounds great

[swift heart]

I wish I could try one

[obsidian plover]

Gotta get it started in Europe and us, I'm surprised u guys don't have them

[swift heart]

It's embarrassing that we don't

[obsidian plover]

We have the holy trinity which is a hsp with garlic, BBQ and sweet Chili sauce

[swift heart]

Seriously considering just running a food truck after I get my PhD so I can show Americans the way of the HSP

[static sapphire]

Every culture: “our food is the most amazing”
Also every culture: “our food is meat and starch”

[swift heart]

Vegetarian cultures: "our food is starch" (???)

[late summit]

Need multiple options 😔

[limpid geode]

Give?

[ivory mural]

gigantic dob would give insane planetary views

other two is just deep sky

[urban quiver]

uhh i already have impaired vision?

thats why people invented glasses

[ivory mural]

i assume smol is 114mm but what's gigantic

[limpid geode]

1000mm?

[ivory mural]

don't think it's possible to have that in a b9 home

[limpid geode]

Chicago probably

[proud quarry]

I've got a 5" in b7 so

Going down to b5 dont seem too bad

[delicate lance]

20 inches

Beyond that and it’s classified as a weapon

[plucky vigil]

Wait what if we actually put this to a vote

[hybrid echo]

if u do i will bring an army of transbians upon you, tilting the vote to forever no matter what you try

[plucky vigil]

[plucky vigil]

Democracy is democracy

[brisk copper]

hai, i heard the word transbian :3

[static sapphire]

actually has a very subtle gradient already

[uneven shore]

Gradient names light up when you hover over them

[undone sinew]

im only seeing it at the edge of my vision when i look away for a bit and then as soon as i look back it turns into solid color

its like placebo levels of gradient

[undone sinew]

WHAT IS TJAT GRADIENT???

ive never seen that ever before in my life

[tender hollow]

It's very subtle

[delicate lance]

i aint seeing nu

[dense perch]

sorry this is so long

[delicate lance]

Wheres my goat Caldwell??

[dense perch]

I KNEW I WOULD MISS ONE

hold on

dang i can’t edit it

[delicate lance]

that makes ense

sense

imagine someone edits ur choice to something different

poll rigging 1.0.1

[sudden locust]

Where is the Principal Galaxies Catalogue?

[dense perch]

i’ve never heard of it

[cerulean elm]

PGC
It's quite common

[static sapphire]

there's so many catalogues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_astronomical_catalogues

[cold moon]

Excuse me but where's Arp?

[marble hearth]

We might need catalogues for cataloguing astro catalogues

[dense perch]

i didn’t wanna do to many cuz i didn’t wanna flood the thread

[dense perch]

Other

[hybrid echo]

topcodes catalogs of cataglogs

[dense perch]

new poll time

i’m feelin boring

[rain void]

Hα by far

no competition

[limpid geode]

Nerd

[rain void]

correct

[rain void]

people with 11" scopes:

[cedar dome]

I knew I forgot one, I must include the simple solution:

[cedar dome]

React ✅ if you own an 11”

[urban quiver]

fyi can sell it for $400-550 usd

[fallen obsidian]

3rd option: send to me

[urban quiver]

for $450

[fallen obsidian]

ill just build one myself

[quasi cedar]

i have hotspot so like whatever yknow

[brisk copper]

um, where 848-852nm narroband filter :<

[cerulean elm]

Where's the SLOAN u' and z-s'?

[undone sinew]

At least when your power is off you know you aint getting internet but when it says wifi connected and doesnt work it just pisses you off even more

[dense perch]

istg

[violet dagger]

I is also cool

[cerulean elm]

True, more accessible for most cameras.

[delicate lance]

NII moment

[zealous cloak]

NII sub when?

[delicate lance]

this is from nick

Ha left, Nii right

[zealous cloak]

Zamn

[brisk copper]

same length?

sub lengh

[delicate lance]

i believe so

[proud quarry]

I was not familiar with Nii wow

[delicate lance]

tbh

in most H-Alpha images

a lot of the data is NII

just not seperated from Ha because theyre so near

[proud quarry]

Yeah but i think my filter is 3nm

Heard it blocks it at that

[delicate lance]

theyre 2nm apart

[proud quarry]

Oooh

[rain void]

That's obviously stacks tho?

[delicate lance]

i dunno

likely

[rain void]

They have stacking artifacts

[delicate lance]

but it gives an idea of how NII is different Ha

[restive fiber]

You are allowed to bring anything else except entire planets

[ivory mural]

Including earth?

[delicate lance]

Then I’ll bring a spaceship

[restive fiber]

Not an entire planet. You can bring asteroids that are 20 km or under.

[urban quiver]

Il bring a spaceship the size of an Astroid

[restive fiber]

@marble hearth and @undone sinew I made a typo, I meant to say irradiated instead of irritated. You are blasted by ionizing radiation.

[undone sinew]

i still love being irradiated so i wont change my choice

[marble hearth]

Better to explore a secret of the cosmos than be stuck in the dark abyss of intergalactic space

[summer turret]

in between 6 and 7

[supple wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/67-gif-8575841764206736991

[zealous cloak]

[dense perch]

one of my first polls where someone isn’t like “WHERE IS (blank)”

[limpid geode]

WHERE IS U BORTLE

[frigid compass]

I hate my B9

[limpid geode]

Then leave

[swift heart]

I struggle so much with this because even though I know I'm in above Bortle 6 I still managed to see the Milky Way last night.

Protip: looking at the zenith and spinning in circles helps if you can't confirm the sighting

[frigid compass]

Can’t but my current best option is to go to the beach which is a b6

[urban quiver]

Is the difference only the crop?

[lofty jetty]

Yes

y key isnt working today

[cerulean elm]

Orientation in nr. 1 is corect
Nr. 2 is bugging me

[marble hearth]

just flip it horizontally :)

[ivory mural]

its the same

[dense perch]

okay idk what else to make

lemme think

yeesh that’s a lot my bad

[hybrid echo]

diffraction nebula

[dense perch]

i’m gonna kill you

[hybrid echo]

fair enough
but can you kill me before monday i dont wanna go to my classes

[dense perch]

i’ll kill you during the weekend

[hybrid echo]

alright does sunday at 10am work for you

[limpid geode]

[violet dagger]

cool diffraction nebula i imaged

only 12 minutes of exposure time

[summer turret]

gonna rewatch rogue one

[urban quiver]

too many 😥

[delicate lance]

Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth plageuis the wise

[cerulean elm]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456

[limpid geode]

"I don't like sand" is winning, as it should

[static sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-star-wars-no-shout-scream-gif-16634447

[summer turret]

"It's seems in your anger...you killed her"

[uneven shore]

It’s game over man, it’s game over

Or was that smth else

https://tenor.com/view/bill-paxton-aliens-game-over-gif-27184304

[marble hearth]

Scopes or setups? 😩

[zealous cloak]

Are you watching Alien: Earth?

Its peak

[static sapphire]

Haven’t yet, heard mixed things about. I might wait until the show is over and then binge it.

[undone sinew]

What do yall even do with 4 telescopes bro

[urban quiver]

4 rigs

[hybrid echo]

well
i have a 5 inch newt
an 8 inch newt
a 4 inch frac¹
a 3.5 inch mak
a 3 inch mak¹
a 5 7/16 inch psedo-mak¹
a 2.5 inch newt¹

¹under construction

[undone sinew]

Let me clarify that the bortle 1 is only in effect for you and you only

And only your images will be affected

[hybrid echo]

I dont care about other people
i see this as an absolute win

[undone sinew]

Okay i need to nerf this somehow

uhh

Bortle 1 forever and 3 years off your life and all of your limbs fall off and your town is crushed by a meteor

Perfect

[cold moon]

Literally a win win situation, I get to endure less suffering and I also have B1 (btw I'm kidding I'm not depressed, yet)

[cold moon]

Seems a bit excessive 😭

[cold moon]

Arago scope when?

[undone sinew]

homemade telescopes?

[hybrid echo]

ill get there soon dont worry

[hybrid echo]

yeah

[undone sinew]

wait so do you buy the mirror online or do you make it DIY

Or lens

Whatever

[hybrid echo]

for most of them, bought online, for the 2.5" im going to do some figuring work on it, trying to make it an off axis paraboloid

[undone sinew]

whatever that word means sounds great

[cold moon]

That's harder than it sounds, you'll have to recoat it as well

[hybrid echo]

dont have to recoat it, when it wasnt coated to begin with

but yeah ive got silver stuff im gonna use for making film anyways so im gonna do silver coating

[cold moon]

Mmhh silver

Keep in mind that it's inferior to aluminium in almost every way

Decently cheap tho

[hybrid echo]

it tarnishes yeah
but technically its better reflectivity, right after you make it

[undone sinew]

How is silver cheaper than aluminum??

[cold moon]

We are talking about micrograms

And aluminium depositing requires a vacuum chamber

[hybrid echo]

you need a high vacuum to coat aluminum
its the process not the material

[undone sinew]

oh

[cold moon]

Micrograms might be an exaggeration but yeah, maybe a fraction of a gram or so

I think the huge mirrors of the VLT use only 30 grams of aluminium, if not less

[hybrid echo]

yeah
a 2.5 inch mirror is basically nothing

[undone sinew]

what did vlt mean again i forgot

[hybrid echo]

very large telescope

[undone sinew]

great

Good job scientists

Amazing name

[hybrid echo]

you not gonna guess what they named the telescope thats bigger than that one

[delicate lance]

wait till this guy hears of the ELT

[glacial bear]

Poor bros suddenly die 3 years ago

[limpid geode]

Live forever

Ez

[delicate lance]

what if i only have 2 years to live

do i drop dead on the spot or do i become immortal given that i passed my date of death

[cold moon]

Would you consider B5 dark?

[delicate lance]

Dark Sites are B3 - B1

(and it implies you move to it and dont live in it)

[cerulean elm]

notch it one up to B4 as well

[limpid geode]

I live in B5, on good nights you can vaguely see the Milky Way

[dense perch]

proud to be both

[dense perch]

omg i need the next poll hold on!

im lazy today

[ivory mural]

my favorite object is galaxies but i enjoy imaging planets the most cause you don't have to worry about the mount tracking bad and guiding exploding

also cool live view

if you meant the whole process making the image though, galaxies

[limpid geode]

Untracked:

If some idiot from the 1800s could do it so can you

[limpid geode]

As a visual person, I prefer nebulae

[hybrid echo]

where stars?

Where exoplanets???

[delicate lance]

When did YOU image an exoplanet

[hybrid echo]

i mean ive done transits

[delicate lance]

this is for scientific purposes please vote

[hybrid echo]

Why are you telling me that i already voted

[delicate lance]

im not telling you that sir

im telling the audience that

[delicate lance]

thats just detection

[hybrid echo]

what
What audience

[delicate lance]

🗿

People that might look into the thread

[hybrid echo]

And

[delicate lance]

in speak easy we had a discussion about if people actually do backyard or darksite photography

[delicate lance]

so thats not an IMAGING target

[hybrid echo]

then what is it bro
Im taking images of it
Its just not spatially resolved as a disk

[delicate lance]

eh

[hybrid echo]

you want me to go resolve it from the parent star is that it?

[delicate lance]

i want you to catch light of the exoplanetary surface

distinct light*

[hybrid echo]

so direct imaging you say?

[delicate lance]

yes

[hybrid echo]

alright well
You will have to wait a few weeks i dont have my telescope at my dorm yet

[summer turret]

indeed dont like sand

[delicate lance]

scientific data needed, vote

[glacial bear]

Lucky if you live in it.

[glacial bear]

Hi from someone living in a dark site if that's the definition.

[marble hearth]

B4 is semi dark

[proud quarry]

eh being old seems boring

[dense perch]

https://tenor.com/view/stewie-gun-suicide-gif-13872495

[obsidian plover]

B5 is getting up their no ? B2 is getting closer to dark sky site

[cold moon]

B5 is significantly worse than B4 yeah, but also much better than even B7

It's in the middle

So not dark, but not that bad either

[ivory mural]

its dark vro

the lower ones are just even darker

[urban quiver]

since I only observe planets, an f2.5 4inch dob wouldn’t do much for me

[glacial bear]

Would still be better than a spherical

[ivory mural]

cold in February but the targets are great

[quasi cedar]

i concur

[glacial bear]

All of my best images have been in December.

[proud quarry]

cold imaging is the best

[glacial bear]

#🔭-astrophotography-chat message

[proud quarry]

Ouchie

[glacial bear]

First one you can see that there's frost forming up on the top edge of the laptop

[quasi cedar]

i really hate bugs, and i get bit by a milion bugs everytime i go out to shoot, so i love winter time. even my minecraft username is Overwinter

[proud quarry]

How cold was it?

[proud quarry]

I don't even get astrodark in summer

But i did some astronomy in america, hated the bugs

[glacial bear]

You'd love this image

[quasi cedar]

i think i was shooting in -10 fahrenheit windchills last winter

[quasi cedar]

what do you even do in this scenario lol, you cant kill it

[glacial bear]

On that night somewhere between 15 and 20 °F

Though I've been in the 10°F zone, stood outside for a few hours trying to image the Orion Nebula with a DSLR. Came out with 20 useful subs. Oh, I'm still not tracked so each sub was 1.3s.

[glacial bear]

I saw it happen and my first thought was "Okay, I have GOT to find that frame." I would have been upset if I had not found it.

[quasi cedar]

lol. solar seems fun, my rig would prob be really good for it

[glacial bear]

I did that with a Baader solar film that I set up in between cardboard. Since then I've purchased a telescope fitting filter and a continuum filter.

[glacial bear]

What rig? My solar imaging is done with "Evie" - Evostar 72ED.

[quasi cedar]

Celestron 6SE on an HEQ5, asi585mc (uncooled)

[glacial bear]

Ooohhh. My other rig is "Rio" - a Skyview Pro 8 .... an Orion 8" OTA mounted on an EQ5. And I have the 585.

I also have "Nexy" which is a Celestron Nextar 127 SLT.

Alas, I have no solar filters for those two.

But oh imagine if I did, I'd be able to get some really great detail on sunspots.

I had to figure out something to get a reasonable one with Evie and a 2x Barlow.

[quasi cedar]

Im hoping to get a second rig going at some point, I actually have a spare HEQ5 im not using rn, I'd prob go with a wider fov for it, like something that can get all of andromeda with like 4 mosaic panels

[glacial bear]

TBH I wouldn't mind getting a P1 camera. They use the same sensor and are less expensive. Some people here say that you have a little more control over them, than the ASI product.

[quasi cedar]

im planning on getting touptek's IMX585 for mono, and then a P1 camera for guiding i believe

[cerulean elm]

You do, fan speeds, dew heating power, and P1 draws a lot less power for the TEC than ZWO does

[glacial bear]

Hi!

Basically I want to have the Uranus-C. Maybe 2 because why not. And the Ares-C Pro kit that comes with filter and OAG.

And replace my focusers with EAF.

[obsidian plover]

February to may is the best weather, not to hot and good targets

[cerulean elm]

December to May. Best weather, best seeing and not scorching hot

[undone sinew]

I mostly just like winter for the targets not for anything else compared to summer

[cerulean elm]

I don't have astrodarkness in the summer. So is a no-go most of the time😂

[delicate lance]

light pollution can be controlled and counteracted

i want to see you put on a filter that allows you to look through clouds

[undone sinew]

use xray

telescope

[delicate lance]

what

sir you do realise xray doesnt pass through earths atmosphere do you?

[undone sinew]

Wait no i meant radio

[delicate lance]

so i can use a single pixel to image

[undone sinew]

this thread is amazing

but why is this the 5th iteration

[delicate lance]

cuz people decided to not post polls about astrophotography

[zealous cloak]

Yeah it can, but no one does anything about it

[cerulean elm]

Got a problem with that?

[zealous cloak]

Weather is just weather, you can't control it but imo LP is worse

[delicate lance]

LP isnt irreversable

Weather is.

[zealous cloak]

Your point being?

If i lived in b9 I wouldn't even bother imaging

[delicate lance]

Id argue a person with constant clouds would be able to image less than a person with high bortles.

[zealous cloak]

It can be as clear as it wants, its just not worth it

[delicate lance]

how does one come to such a conclusion

also its worth noting that there are places where light pollution will be low through the entirety of our lifetimes

so id argue, you can even go away from light pollution, that cant be said for clouds. They find you whereever you go

[zealous cloak]

Can't agree

[delicate lance]

elaborate

[zealous cloak]

Not with that final statement, just as a whole

[undone sinew]

i need a new poll idea

hmmmm

[delicate lance]

play minesweeper in the mean time

[cerulean elm]

I'll go with B1

[delicate lance]

yk what

ill just move away from the B1 and just go there every clear night

[cerulean elm]

I already have 10 clear nights per year. Might as well make it B1

[ivory mural]

Same

[cerulean elm]

I had the itch to put my phone on the eyepiece of my old cheap frac... and everything went downhill

[ivory mural]

Mine are b7🔥

[marble hearth]

the entire world is b9 except ur little hut in the middle of nowhere where u live

[delicate lance]

so then ill have clearskies in b9 all year round and 10 clear nights in B1, best of both worlds

[limpid geode]

Shoot it

[fallen obsidian]

Should I rank my top people on the server

[delicate lance]

go for it

[fallen obsidian]

I need to think

[ivory mural]

consume

[fallen obsidian]

I’ll do top 5

[proud quarry]

my dad got me an astromaster. then i had to convince him that a £900 equatorial mount was worth it

[hybrid echo]

im one of the few truly top people here u know

[fallen obsidian]

Oops I did not realize this was in polls

[dense perch]

hmmm uhhhhh

[hybrid echo]

the western one

[dense perch]

Every time I get a notification from you, a wave of sadness just rushes over me

[cerulean elm]

Bruv💀

[cerulean elm]

Come on... nothing is more satisfying than staring at PHD2 as it flat-lines...

[hybrid echo]

my entire setup wants to flatline

[ivory mural]

I have to stare at my guide graph cause it likes to throw itself off a cliff randomly

[desert obsidian]

Like 4" steep cliff?

[cerulean elm]

[ivory mural]

recently yeah

but before it was like 18" steep cliff

[late summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/794651916646350859/1408478941567782993/ezgif.com-add-text.gif

[desert obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-falling-animal-tree-gif-6111566003609015713

[ivory mural]

😿

[quasi cedar]

i do all of these

[limpid geode]

That's a real hemisphere tbh

[cerulean elm]

I know. But weather you are at 40°N in the eastern hemisphere or 40°N in the western hemisphere, you share the same sky

[proud quarry]

why does this read like it was writen by a serial killer

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-my-eyes-on-you-watching-you-signal-point-stalk-gif-5960200

[cerulean elm]

My lawyer advised me not to answer these type of questions

[proud quarry]

has he now

[obsidian plover]

Either sleep, check the subs or watch yt

[cerulean elm]

I don't think you can get lower than B3 in EU

[late summit]

You can, there's a couple B2 sites in Spain and a good amount of them in France

We can't count Scotland as EU anymore but they got plenty too, even b1

[undone sinew]

i mean you could scale the alps

[cerulean elm]

I remember when Spain went into B1 mode

[undone sinew]

plus a lot of the northern coutries like norway and sweden have a ton of dark sites (idk if theyre in the eu though)

[late summit]

Me too... because I didn't have electricity for the whole day

[cerulean elm]

They are😂

I was talking continental EU

[undone sinew]

what about ukraine they have dark sites are they eu

[cerulean elm]

No politics

[late summit]

No I think that was a legit question

[undone sinew]

🀄️

[late summit]

Ukraine is on the edge of the what most people consider Europe

[cerulean elm]

They got other issues😂

[undone sinew]

my country’s lowest is like a bortle 4 so i gotta go to weird mountain villages in neighboring countries to get good views

[late summit]

Even before 22, Ukraine had a lot of dark sites

[undone sinew]

im sure they had plenty of dark sites before the year 22AD

[late summit]

italy doesn't go below 4 lol

sucks for them

[undone sinew]

Everyone in america is so lucky bro like 30% of the country is bortle 2 and bortle 1

They dont need to cross borders

[cerulean elm]

How about Australians?

[undone sinew]

yeah but australia is like 90% deadly radiocative desert so they cant really enjoy the dark skies there

actually why dont they just dig a canal through australia

and terraform the desert

it would cost like what, 10 billion dollars and like 5 years? Completely doable

[pine shell]

In Romania we have a bunch of B2 skies in the mountains, at like 2000m

[cerulean elm]

I ain't climbing the Făgăraş just to be eaten by bears. Plus, my rig is as portable as my car

[late summit]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-bear-yakuza5-saejima-taiga-dame-da-ne-gif-25322042

[pine shell]

Recently, some tourist from Italy got off his motorcycle to pet a bear, and got absolutely devoured, but in all fairness, bears aren't a big problem here if you have some common sense

[devout tinsel]

Watching F1

[cerulean elm]

Bro didn't invest his skill points into common sense

[cold moon]

Blows up at T+18 minutes mark my words

[flat fable]

A tiger can kill a grizzly with 1 hit onto the forehead

Bam

[late summit]

saejima my goat

[proud quarry]

Scotland mentioned

But yeah we got a lot of b2

LOTS

and maybe a little b1

[late summit]

yeh i saw you have one decently big area that's b1, but I don't know hot safe it is to go there because it may just all be cliffs etc

huh very safe according to google maps' view

[hard slate]

The whole of the northwest and islands are basically B1, spill isn't anywhere near what the 2015 data suggests.

[proud quarry]

Thats the isle of Lewis i think, ive been there and it would be pretty safe to image

Pretty flat in the middle

[static sapphire]

Why not a combination of the options

Like, they could not launch and it still explodes, like last time

[delicate lance]

Because that doesnt answer the question of whether or not it will launch. Misunderstood the question, idk i just forgot

[undone sinew]

wait what

[cold moon]

One of the boosters failed a static fire test, I think

[static sapphire]

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/spacexs-starship-explodes-in-texas-during-preparations-for-10th-test-flight

[marble hearth]

at night or day...?

[limpid geode]

Is this today

[static sapphire]

That was a static test firing a while ago for the flight that’s supposed to happen now

[limpid geode]

Ah

It will go boom

[static sapphire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_flight_test_10

[late summit]

I prefer the processing part tbh

But only if it's my own data, so I can't dislike imaging

[limpid geode]

What if you don't image

[quasi cedar]

im kinda mixed, i dont enjoy imaging on its own, but its fun to live stack while imaging so you can see how the data improves with every image. ive only done live stacking with my dwarf 3 tho, i need to set up the nina plugin for it still

[ivory mural]

i wouldn't do that until you have good consistent guiding

since until then you will probably need to throw away some subs

[late summit]

under 5 minutes on a good night 😭

[mint talon]

how???

[late summit]

semi permanent rig

[mint talon]

ah

[late summit]

I just put it on its place, I already know where to put it to get a good rough polar alignment

[mint talon]

but like still, ive had focusing take that long

[late summit]

so I just gotta boot up my laptop, run TPPA and that's it

[mint talon]

i usually have to do asiair tppa like 4 times to get a good result lol

[late summit]

lol

usually I get it down in 1, but I still run 2 to confirm my results

[ivory mural]

what

focusing literally takes 10 seconds

maybe if u don't have a bahtinov a bit longer

[mint talon]

yea i dont have one

mostly just a struggle getting the fwhm below like 4

the rest of the time is just fighting with the asiair lol

[delicate lance]

Like 7 - 10 minutes maybe

Carry out mount with rough polar alignment, get scope, accessories and then well, done.

Carrying a fully set up HEQ5 is easier than one would think

[mint talon]

how tf do yall not have technical issues

[summer turret]

i dont

mines fairly straight foward to setup

[mint talon]

i keep on having things be out of focus or trailed and each takes like 10m to solve lol

am i stupid or does my rig just suck

probably me being stupid

[ivory mural]

i do but i figured out how to solve them

they happen and i fix them quick

[ivory mural]

i don't have int goals i just image until the clear skies end

[summer turret]

Depends on my clear skies....

[sharp berry]

almost 1 yr

[desert obsidian]

About 2hours

[summer turret]

3rd year

[obsidian plover]

4th year

[mint talon]

seriously? like 2 years. taking pictures of space at all? like 6

[young cosmos]

Yall can't just let Polls die...

[urban quiver]

About to reach my 1 year Astrophotography anniversary

I think I’ve done pretty well for myself in only one year

[desert obsidian]

All the above

[undone sinew]

wait youve seen each one?

[desert obsidian]

Yessir

[undone sinew]

did you travel a lot for them

[desert obsidian]

2 hours max

[undone sinew]

Bro how

[desert obsidian]

To get to the center of the eclipse line

[undone sinew]

You hit the celestial event jackpot

With your location

[desert obsidian]

Hehe I guess so

Im north enough for northern lights

And got lucky with the solar eclipse last year

And for the meteor showers and comets, I just traveled 40 minutes to b5

[static sapphire]

All of them, including total and annular total solar eclipse

[static sapphire]

We could see naked eye aurora from 32N last year (barely, but it was visible)

[zealous cloak]

Quite a difference in price between options

[late summit]

yeah lol

imo 17 pro with hub, if your gti is overloaded you won't get enough data to take advantage of pix

you can always get pix later, you're OSC so it's not nearly as necessary as if you were mono

[urban quiver]

It’s overloaded but my guiding is acceptabl

[late summit]

that makes it slightly harder

[urban quiver]

I’m really debating on whether to go with the 17 or 17 pro with hub. The hub would cost $240 to get into the 17.

So 17 and hub is $1540. Or I could get the 17 pro and hub for $1600

[late summit]

17 Pro and Hub over the 17 and Hub, the 60 dollar difference is worth it

[urban quiver]

Yea it would be worth it. But I’m not even sure I want to get the hub

So if I don’t care about the hub, I’d just get the 17. But if I do want the hub, there’s no reason to not get the 17 pro with hub

[late summit]

It'd essentially replace the need for the sv241 or any other hub you might use, makes your stuff a lot cleaner as well

[urban quiver]

Yea

[late summit]

Makes things a lot easier to diagnose and test too, and maintenance as well

It's worth it imo, it saves you a wee bit of money if you don't right now, but money is temporary

[urban quiver]

It just sucks because I also need a new tripod to hold a ragdoll

So id be spending $1800

I’m buying the tripod like tmrw because it works with the GTI. So no reason to wait

[urban quiver]

Guess I need to gamble more

[ivory mural]

Aurora that one night with the huge solar stoem

It's so brifht

October 10

[static sapphire]

When in doubt always get a better mount

[urban quiver]

I don’t think my wallet likes you very much

[delicate lance]

I can imagine your wallet doesn’t like you very much either considering you bought a gti

[urban quiver]

The gti has served me well and I can sell it for $500

[limpid geode]

Lunar eclipse is when the sun passes between the earth and the moon right

[cold moon]

[anything] eclipse is when [anything] is what gets eclipsed (i.e. covered)

Also excuse me what 😭 ? The sun passes between the earth and the moon?

[ivory mural]

Hate when that happens

Gets way too hot

[urban quiver]

A total solar eclipse was truly a breathtaking experience. My only regret was that I wasn’t into astrophotography yet. So I only have pretty meh images taken with my phone.

At least you can tell it’s a solar eclipse

[limpid geode]

O

[cerulean elm]

I knew it... the solar system is a geocentric system and not a heliocentric

[mint talon]

ALL OF THE ABOVE BABY

[undone sinew]

yes the answer is 7

[swift heart]

If you had included an annular solar eclipse, then I would have been able to not check something

I even got to see the Perseids and the aurora at the same time last year... honestly along with the total solar eclipse and Tsuchinshan–ATLAS it was the single best year for astronomy I've had

[undone sinew]

i mean an annular solar eclipse is kind of just a fancier-looking partial eclipse

but idk maybe i shouldve added it

[obsidian plover]

all but total solar eclipse

aurora and Comet ive seen insanely clearly i couldnt believe my eyes

C/2023a3 and the january one

[desert obsidian]

Yessir

[limpid geode]

Read that carefully

[desert obsidian]

Makes it quite a goofy situation

Crops don’t enjoy it

[undone sinew]

JHshshdbsbdksbs

[delicate lance]

Eagles when they got a lock on a mouse and suddenly the sun dissapears

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[undone sinew]

118 votes wow

[lofty jetty]

i'm in between "it would be okay" and "i really want to be there"

[vagrant basin]

I spelt have wrong 🤦

[cold moon]

Just look at @tall rivet's stuff

[zealous cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[mint talon]

wtf how

[delicate lance]

5 - 2 = 3
8 - 3 = 5

thats the scientific way

but what i personally do is

58 + 12 is 60

and since 23 + 37 is also 60

it MUST be 35

yk?

[late summit]

I will choose to ignore everything else in this conversation and only read this

[delicate lance]

see you get it

[tender hollow]

That's only possible because the phone he uses lets him get raw data

Most don't

Either way it's impressive as there are more challenges to phone AP than just compression, but if you are dealing with compression it is literally impossible to do that kind of work

[tall rivet]

I think nowadays most phones can actually shoot in 100% raw (except iPhones). Only some really low-end or very old phones don’t allow it anymore. On Android you just install DeepSkyCamera and shoot in raw

[tender hollow]

I know at least iPhone and Samsung still can't do it

My S25+ shoots "raw" but it's not really raw

[tall rivet]

Expert raw really isn’t. But you can just install DSC and shoot raw with it — it comes out unedited

[tender hollow]

Isn't the processing straight out of the sensor, making it impossible to bypass by any software?

[tall rivet]

The S25+ can do 600s exposures in raw on DSC, actually. Way more than the 55s I get on my already somewhat old Mi12

[tender hollow]

I've tried DSC on my S22 but not on the S25 yet

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With iPhones, even third-party apps still apply some processing to the raw… But on Android, the raw from third-party apps are actual sensor raw. Try it yourself: grab a raw from Expert RAW and try to open it in PixInsight — it’ll throw a format error, because it’s not really a raw. Then open one from DSC… it’ll open just fine

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I'll definitely try that, good to know

This is what I get out of a "RAW" from DSC

(60s dark)

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