Chameleon Nebula, Bernes 142

[rare juniper]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-apiIdCoIzSVS140YWEWhekok2OqjfhC

Fl: 250mm
Pixel size: 3.76 (use 1.88 for 2x drizzling)

[fossil meteor]

yeah nah still have no idea how u got rid of those gradients

actual DBE god

[rare juniper]

You still gonna try?

I still had some mild colour gradients which i managed to fix myself

In post

[fossil meteor]

idek how to

[lusty talon]

I might try, don’t except anything good

[fossil meteor]

like i can process it but its gonna be worse than yours and then it wont be worth it

[rare juniper]

Nah it’ll be fine

Cmon

[lusty talon]

I just process for the experience man

[fossil meteor]

likr where do u even put the dbe points???

[rare juniper]

Not comeptiting or anything

[lusty talon]

^

[fossil meteor]

too few and theres colour, too many and there no dust

or do u use a lot for RGB, few for L?

[rare juniper]

I’ll send a lil friend of mine

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Njip3cGnZY4RHG_T2feGjPcsjw56Btsb/view?usp=sharing

This is a wider dataset shot by LMC, it works well for MSGR

[fossil meteor]

god has answered my prayers

[rare juniper]

🤑

[brittle bough]

This was tough, and this is as good as I've been able to get it, after several attempts. 😅

[lusty talon]

Good attempt

Probably gonna be better then mine

[brittle bough]

I didn't do the MSGR stuff, I couldn't get it to work with my limited skillbase. 😅

[lusty talon]

For the fun of the experience, I’m gonna just DBE it

[brittle bough]

I also couldn't get any good result with DBE. I had to rely on pixinsight's gradientcorrection tool

[dense linden]

hated my edit but loved the data

[rare juniper]

Damn, are you guys struggling?

[brittle bough]

In my defense, I don't live where I can image these sort of structures and have little experience in dealing with this type of data. 🥺🥹

[rare juniper]

I wanna see someone surpass my edit

I hope ekuy can now with the MSGR i sent

[brittle bough]

How do you even use that as a reference, is what I'd like to know.

[rare juniper]

For MSGR?

https://www.nightphotons.com/guides/multiscale-gradient-removal/ this guide explains Msgr well

[brittle bough]

looking

ahh, the star alignment process is where i was going wrong

[dense linden]

is this even possible at siriL?

[dense linden]

yes i'm siriL fr

[brittle bough]

This is quite old, the processes referenced have different settings that don't match up.

[fossil meteor]

did u use standard MSGR or MGC?

i spend a while yesterday trying to get MGC to work

but the scales are incompatable apparently

so ill just process it with normal MSGR td

[brittle bough]

I'd be interested in knowing how you get the star alignment to work >.>

[fossil meteor]

dynamic crop to align them roughly (widefield has to completely cover narrow)

then staralignment to align exactly

[brittle bough]

I think that's where I went wrong. My crop likely didn't cover the entire area. 😅 I might try again later.

[lusty talon]

I’m working on trying to figure that out and gonna write a guide

It’s possible

the only problem is having only one image open at a time

[fossil meteor]

nvm i got MGC to work

[brittle bough]

I keep getting this error.

[fossil meteor]

MGC -> Instant Source Code -> "P.enforceFieldLimits = false;"

although apparently this voids ur warranty, but since this is software idk what that even affects

probably nothing

[brittle bough]

lol. that didn't work either.

[fossil meteor]

also wtf did u do to the msgc??

why is the reference image overcorrected

u realise by using mgc u dont need to use much DBE at all?

@rare juniper bro it doesnt even look any better

[brittle bough]

that's an autostretch

[fossil meteor]

nah looks like some awful dbe to me

[brittle bough]

i'll start from scratch again with that, see if something else goes wrong. i appreciate your patience and help 😛

[fossil meteor]

for the widefield just do a really really smooth dbe

[dense linden]

ok

[dense linden]

YAY!

[dense linden]

yeah thats a big problem

[fossil meteor]

this is what mine looked like

make sure u put any dbe points on background only

not even on the faint dust

[fossil meteor]

did u press the tick after changing the value to true?

[brittle bough]

yeah, it saved.

[fossil meteor]

show me what the error say

[brittle bough]

this also shows the tail end of the flux calibration

[lusty talon]

[brittle bough]

both are plate solved, and i cannot understand why it concludes the target image isn't in the wider image

[fossil meteor]

whys msgc ur target image?

it should be ur reference

[brittle bough]

msgc is the reference, i think the msgc error is just called msgc. i'll rename the reference to be sure

[fossil meteor]

ru sure u didnt just drag the MGC process onto the "msgc" image by accident?

[brittle bough]

no i was dragging it to QQQ's image.

[fossil meteor]

hmm then it wouldve said processing view: image06

do it again, make sure ur dragging it onto image06

[brittle bough]

that was the original error. the second one i think i hit the square instead of dragging 😅

ok now it worked, but i need to do a proper dbe, as you said.

i didn't have the image cropped or rotated this time, and ran bx in correct only on both first.

[fossil meteor]

LMC's shi is so good

[fossil meteor]

yeah the square just applies onto the selected image, which is harder to tell

[fossil meteor]

yeah, use maximum smoothness and select on the darkest points possible

[fossil meteor]

not necessary to run bxt for MGC

could mess with flux measurements if u run it first

[brittle bough]

this is what i have for the reference rn

[brittle bough]

Ok, now this is better for sure 😛

[rare juniper]

That’s pretty good, getting close to what my process looked like

[fossil meteor]

lets be honest LMC's data is kinda carrying yours

[rare juniper]

Nah you don’t understand h bruh

[fossil meteor]

i wanna see a good process without that MSGR

[rare juniper]

Bet

I dont know why the RGB though is so nasty

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[rare juniper]

Plus it ain’t my fault that i live in like the worse skies ever

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[ripe heron]

Ill cook, no MSGR reference

[rare juniper]

Prove em wrong

[radiant bison]

I dont have msgr

with graxpert bruh

[rare juniper]

Yeah dont use graspers ever lol

[radiant bison]

There is waving stick figure in your image

[ripe heron]

In the middle of processing this, but gotta say your process is really impressive, those gradients in RGB are crazy

[lusty talon]

Yeah, they’re certainly pretty complex… tried just DBE for the challenge, did like 35 different DBE’s

I haven’t had time to sit down and do an MSGR one yet

[ripe heron]

Gave it a shot, although i have to pack up my rig so i stopped abit earlier than i wanted too. Messed up DBE a small bit in the bottom right, but overall i can defo see a good process (yours is amazing already) coming, just gotta reprocess it with more time and be more careful with certain things

[rare juniper]

Very nice