@high aspen at least you can experience RC goodness vicariously through us
#Ritchey–Chrétien enjoyers thread
frosty shard
high aspen
should i get this
or is there a cheaper
but carbon fiber
i need it to be carbonfiber (for legal reasons)
frosty shard
Not used to pounds but I think they all tend to be around the same price
high aspen
<@456226577798135808> at least you can experience RC goodness vicariously throug...
yeass
frosty shard
One tip I do have: check the used markets
It's a bit of TLC, but a lot of people sell their RCs because they don't know how to collimate them correctly
So you may score a cheap, fully functional OTA for relatively little
high aspen
It's a bit of TLC, but a lot of people sell their RCs because they don't know ho...
i enjoy collimation ( i pretend to enjoy it so the depression doesn't try kill me)
high aspen
So you may score a cheap, fully functional OTA for relatively little
that could be good
frosty shard
The only thing I'll note about buying used is that you may need to install a baffle extension if it was manufactured before about 2020 (could be wrong on the year)
high aspen
also, full metal spiders fill me with joy
frosty shard
For 8" and larger RCs this should be no problem, but for 6" RCs you may actually need to disassemble the scope to install the extension
It's very difficult to reach into the tube unless you have tiny hands and arms
high aspen
It's very difficult to reach into the tube unless you have tiny hands and arms
i can barely reach into my 6" newt 😭
high aspen
For 8" and larger RCs this should be no problem, but for 6" RCs you may actually...
what can focal reducers reduce the f-stop to
like the most common reduction amount
frosty shard
what can focal reducers reduce the f-stop to
Depends on whether you get a 0.75x reducer (f/6) or 0.67x reducer (f/5.36)
analog portal
I have the CCDT67 and it's awesome
high aspen
Depends on whether you get a 0.75x reducer (f/6) or 0.67x reducer (f/5.36)
0.33 reducer?
high aspen
I'd just use the Newt if you need that focal length
i was joking obv xD
i should have 
at the end
high aspen
I'd just use the Newt if you need that focal length
dumb idea, 3" rc 😭
frosty shard
dumb idea, 3" rc 😭
Unironically I'm holding out hope for a 4.5" RC
GSO made a 4.5" classical Cassegrain
frosty shard
Yeah f/12 is painful
high aspen
Yeah f/12 is painful
would have to get a Focal reducer, which wouldn't really work
too smol appature
analog portal
would have to get a Focal reducer, which wouldn't really work
svbony has you covered
analog portal
i have one of those 😅
high aspen
i have one of those 😅
does it work well for ap?
analog portal
tried to use it with my first scope (omni xlt 102)
not at all. no focus achieved lmao
high aspen
not at all. no focus achieved lmao
wouldn't think so 😭
you would have to be so far from the scope
analog portal
it worked visually, but all i got was a realy wide fov through a 4" achromat
high aspen
cool
harsh matrix
seems like an easy money to me
i almost bought a stell tube RC8 off of cloudy nights
it was like 50% of MSRP
high aspen
it was like 50% of MSRP
msrp?
analog portal
i tried to sell my RC8 there, no takers 😦
harsh matrix
i tried to sell my RC8 there, no takers 😦
high aspen
i tried to sell my RC8 there, no takers 😦
ill take it for £0.5
harsh matrix
ill take it for like 300 USD
except i need that money for a new guide cam
so i wont
high aspen
except i need that money for a new guide cam
imagine having guiding 
analog portal
i bought this one there, and have been so disgruntled by the weather and only getting to use it a few times in a year, decided to sell it
now it's sitting on the floor in my office in it's packaging 😦
oblique sun
svbony has you covered
i bought one of these as a joke lol
don't actually buy one to use for imaging
i did find a use for it tho, wide angle lens
if you add spacers you can reach focus with it and you can focus like a helical focuser by unscrewing it
harsh matrix
i bought this one there, and have been so disgruntled by the weather and only ge...
aw crap
analog portal
my favorite image with it 🥹
high aspen
my favorite image with it 🥹
which inchage did you take it with
analog portal
8"
high aspen
i see
analog portal
that's reduced 50% to smaller filesize, was with imx492 in bin2
analog portal
the focus was either off on the filter changes, or the collimation was off (we discussed this before in here lol). i dind't run blurx to correct the stars
it's 2.3um in bin1
analog portal
it's nice in bin2
high aspen
the focus was either off on the filter changes, or the collimation was off (we d...
i dislike blurx, it's cheating (my free trial ran out and im poor)
analog portal
lol
high aspen
it's nice in bin2
not bad
analog portal
i'm almost always going to be oversampled with this scope where i live. seldom do i get above avg seeing
high aspen
ngl, sometimes i actually prefer seti astros one
analog portal
i was going to take it up to cherry springs last june for the star party, had my tickets, weather was garbage. 😦
not driving 3hrs to hang out under clouds and showers
high aspen
not driving 3hrs to hang out under clouds and showers
real
frosty shard
i dislike blurx, it's cheating (my free trial ran out and im poor)
this but unironically (I personally refuse to use AI tools in my image processing)
To be clear, I don't have issues with others using AI tools
I just don't like using them myself
high aspen
this but unironically (I personally refuse to use AI tools in my image processin...
what about the bray falls method
thorny path
fray balls
frosty shard
what about the bray falls method
Is there a description of this method?
thorny path
Is there a description of this method?
ms paint
harsh matrix
oblique sun
prob not gonna be anything😔
frosty shard
prob not gonna be anything😔
The Orion ones got listed for the same price as other RCs
oblique sun
The Orion ones got listed for the same price as other RCs
When?
I never saw any rc on thr highpoint sale
frosty shard
Some time ago, they weren't on sale, but you can still find them if you search on site
oblique sun
ofc they don't put the big sale on the ones we want
it's even more expensive than the ioptron photron ones
frosty shard
Yeah I wasn't super hopeful about the RCs since they're not meaningfully different across brands
Actually the Orion one might be the most different just because it comes with two finderscope brackets
frosty shard
Man, I had a heart attack last night. Somehow the brass compression ring in my focuser disappeared
I was a bit worried that it fell out at one of the public events I've been doing or that it dropped down the OTA and scratched the secondary, but thankfully I found it just pushed down the focuser tube a bit
harsh matrix
I was a bit worried that it fell out at one of the public events I've been doing...
wtfff
frosty shard
I have thought about potentially getting one of the Baader clicklock visual backs and screwing that on so I never have to deal with set screws
harsh matrix
Oh boy
I think the primary mirror on my RC6 can get pinched optics
Just like the secondary
That makes no sense
undone sedge
you get pinched optics, you get pinched optics, and you get pinched optics! everyone gets pinched optics!!!
harsh matrix
I can't even tell if that's really what it is
The airy disks look oblong and not circular but it feels like it's seeing
It looks symmetrical in live view
Then it turns into a triangle once it gets focused
I suspect my light leak baffle tube is at fault
Well a 60 second subs looks good
I think i got a very slight amount of sensor tilt
My guiding is excellent tonight 
frosty shard
Yo I just ran into another slight scare with my RC
The extra finderscope screws came loose and fell into the OTA
I'm gonna replace them with screws that have actual heads
Getting them out is a pain due to the baffles
analog portal
I removed the focuser and that extra spacer between it and the RC back, and enjoyed a few hours doing some visual observing. The moon didn't help, but at least it looked nice through the eyepiece.
frosty shard
I removed the focuser and that extra spacer between it and the RC back, and enjo...
Nice! They really are excellent visual instruments.
I've actually managed to take mine out for outreach for the past three nights
brisk swift
yo how do u collimate ur RC @frosty shard
frosty shard
yo how do u collimate ur RC <@183411689452994561>
I haven't needed to just yet, but when I do so it'll likely be with a standard visual star test.
harsh matrix
I removed the focuser and that extra spacer between it and the RC back, and enjo...
I did some visual tonight as well
Learned that bortle 7 + 84% illuminated moon is not very fun
Leaves the moon as the only interesting thing to look at
frosty shard
I did some visual tonight as well
Ooh with the RC?
frosty shard
Uh wtf
Optics still look fine, I just had to be careful about ensuring the screw didn't fall on the secondary mirror
harsh matrix
Ooh with the RC?
Nah I'm imaging with the RC
I went crater hunting with the dob
Saw some parts of the moon I've never really seen before
Saw what I thought were fractures, remnants around one of the large mare from the impact that created it
They were like terraced fractures
harsh matrix
Optics still look fine, I just had to be careful about ensuring the screw didn't...
Yeah exactly, that's scary
harsh matrix
this is what we are shooting with the Ritchey tonight 
frosty shard
this is what we are shooting with the Ritchey tonight <:wholesome:12318300464911...
Is that M63?
harsh matrix
Is that M63?
frosty shard
ordered my 6" Carbon RC <@183411689452994561>
@harsh matrix the cult is growing.
harsh matrix
hopefully it is collimated or near collimated when you get it
mine was so far out that i didnt know what to do
brisk swift
The retailers collimate it before shipping themselves
it*
bro I'm on drugs
should I wait for 6200mm to come in stock or get 2600mc
harsh matrix
an RC cant do full frame
id do a 2600MM, not get a color version for the amount of money you have to spend on it
not worth it imo
or at least try to get a Player One Poseidon-M Pro
Player One's offerings are objectively better than ZWO's
plus your RC wont be fully taken advantage of with the color camera, the bayer matrix handicaps the resolution so your images will always look mushy
mono makes everything super crisp and allows you to eek out even more resolution
brisk swift
id do a 2600MM, not get a color version for the amount of money you have to spen...
Out of stock
guess I gotta wait
frosty shard
hopefully it is collimated or near collimated when you get it
Mine was perfectly fine out of the box so I hope now they are being more rigorously tested before being shipped out
Here's one of my friends looking through my RC on Saturday
I have actually debated whether to give my RC the same treatment as Carl the dob
And let the people who look through my telescope sign it
Maybe I'll vinyl wrap the tube first and then let people sign that
brisk swift
@frosty shard
which diagonal should I get? I'm confused
idk what size will fit the scope ( 2 or 1.25"
how do I check which is gonna fit
harsh matrix
idk what size will fit the scope ( 2 or 1.25"
with will fit
brisk swift
Diagonal
harsh matrix
both*
brisk swift
harsh matrix
im going to go fight an uphill battle and try to see the Milky Way core in my backyard
harsh matrix
im going to go fight an uphill battle and try to see the Milky Way core in my ba...
Yeah that was absolutely hopeless
Id argue that the brightest part of the core rises inside of what is probably a bortle 8 light dome
So I'll never in a million years see it from home
undone sedge
yeah the brightest part of the core at the observatory is firmly in the atlanta lp haze
frosty shard
which diagonal should I get? I'm confused
I got a 2" dielectric diagonal for my RC.
frosty shard
Just so you know why: to really take advantage of the full barrel diameter you want a 2" diagonal (and ideally a 2" eyepiece with maximized field stop).
And in general I'd avoid prisms with an RC just because they're already well-corrected
Though some swear by them for planetary work
(Prisms can introduce some spherochromatism and coma)
Also 2" prisms are expensive
frosty shard
All IR data?
brisk swift
I got a 2" dielectric diagonal for my RC.
got the same one lmao
frosty shard
got the same one lmao
Did you get the Apertura one? I got that
frosty shard
Oh I thought you got the CarbonStar
brisk swift
nu I got the gso one
oblique sun
well now that my newts broken i have another reason to get an rc
frosty shard
Either way they're really all the same, GSO makes all of them
harsh matrix
All IR data?
yes
high aspen
well now that my newts broken i have another reason to get an rc
yaaayy
high aspen
what currency u use
high aspen
oblique sun
https://www.firstlightoptics.com/stellalyra-telescopes/stellalyra-6-f9-m-crf-rit...
you said 300 to 400£ rah
that's more than 400
high aspen
that's more than 400
close enough 😭
high aspen
you said 300 to 400£ rah
i want to get a Carbonfiber one bc silly :3
i also want this camera for regular photography
bc it looks pretty
and thats the only reason
high aspen
150mm rcs aren't heavy
aree
high aspen
150mm rcs aren't heavy
i can barely carry my 6" newt thats made of metal (i have muscle in my arms but almost all of it is unusable)
oblique sun
i can barely carry my 6" newt thats made of metal (i have muscle in my arms but ...
vro whar
my 6" newt is light af
high aspen
my 6" newt is light af
i know
with the tripod i mean
the newt is liftable
by a bit
oblique sun
if i carry my entire setup it's hard because the counterweight
makes center of mass go silly
high aspen
if i carry my entire setup it's hard because the counterweight
my counterweights are so heavy
oblique sun
mine are only 2.5kg lol
high aspen
idk what i have
oblique sun
i only use one at halfway down the cw shaft
cause my newt is ultralight
its half paper lmao
oblique sun
high aspen
non farbonciber
oblique sun
non farbonciber
yea 6kg
that's still only half my mounts capacity
slightly more but still
high aspen
farbonciber
high aspen
that's still only half my mounts capacity
over my mounts capability
oblique sun
over my mounts capability
whar moun
high aspen
that is not worth the price difference
£80 price difference ^~^
oblique sun
£80 price difference ^~^
to muhc
high aspen
upgard rah
nop :3
high aspen
new mount before November scope
is eq5pro good enough?
high aspen
good point
oblique sun
and better i think
high aspen
and better i think
yip
high aspen
if i can't then uh idk
take it to one of those ungayer people
that dont work and traumatise children
oblique sun
😨
brisk swift
i want to get a Carbonfiber one bc silly :3
gso ones go for like 400usd here
analog portal
Either way they're really all the same, GSO makes all of them
Mine is unique, it says GS Optical on the side instead of GSO. 😅
brisk swift
technically still a gso
harsh matrix
I found something weird about that pinched optics deal with the primary
It started out as a theory and now I think it's what is happening
Pretty sure it's related to temperature
Specifically the primary mirror cell
analog portal
i had that happen with a newt when i overtightened it and it got out in the cold.
harsh matrix
My RC6 split Rigel A and B
Apparently seeing is cheeks tonight so this is surprising
brisk swift
how do u collimate your RC? @harsh matrix
harsh matrix
how do u collimate your RC? <@293187070753505281>
on stars using sharpcap or metaguide if the seeing is really bad
brisk swift
on stars using sharpcap or metaguide if the seeing is really bad
o
do u have any vids on Collimating a RC? Barely any useful vids on yt
harsh matrix
do u have any vids on Collimating a RC? Barely any useful vids on yt
no
But
Lukamatico has an SCT collimation video which was very helpful for me
as crazy as it sounds, collimating an SCT is virtually identical to collimating an RC
apertura's user manual for the carbonstar helped me a lot too
brisk swift
frosty shard
as crazy as it sounds, collimating an SCT is virtually identical to collimating ...
Do you not have to adjust your primary mirror often?
frosty shard
Totally added my photo to the Wikipedia article for Ritchey–Chrétien telescopes
Since there weren't any images of amateur sized RCs
I'm actually trying to find proper sources so I can add more info about amateur RCs – apparently there's a book chapter out there that has some of GSO's history
analog portal
why is there a latitude base adjuster thing on the front
weight for balance, clever use of it if i might add
i have an ADM weight saddle for my 8"
i had two counterweights but they're cut into thirds, so i can be more precise with the balance. as well as adding the side bolt, if my camera is rotated where the filter wheel is off to the side i take one of the weights off and counter it to the opposite side.
harsh matrix
Do you not have to adjust your primary mirror often?
no, it's pretty rare that i have to adjust it
prime sequoia
anyone use a 6" and have any idea if 2lb is overkill for a conterweight. I would like to buy one but I dont know if 2lb is to much
oblique sun
anyone use a 6" and have any idea if 2lb is overkill for a conterweight. I would...
it is not
might not be enougj
My scope is lighter than a carbonstar and i use a 2.5kg counterweight most of the way down the shaft
with guidescope
without i use it halfway
harsh matrix
anyone use a 6" and have any idea if 2lb is overkill for a conterweight. I would...
to balance the dec or the RA?
prime sequoia
the dec
analog portal
my 8" is cf and with the image train, i need almost 7lbs of counterweight up front
brisk swift
harsh matrix
the dec
you might need more than that honestly
im using my guidescope as a makeshift counterweight and i think it weighs about that much
not nearly enough to counter balance the amount of weight on the back
im also running a full fledged mono system with an OAG
brisk swift
im also running a full fledged mono system with an OAG
oags don't have issues on slower scopes?
harsh matrix
oags don't have issues on slower scopes?
They do but normally it's the camera at fault
I need a new guide camera
brisk swift
analog portal
oags don't have issues on slower scopes?
the focal length is where the issues arise, smaller area of sky to look for guide stars
frosty shard
You can get around the speed issue by using a guide cam with big pixels
brisk swift
analog portal
You can get around the speed issue by using a guide cam with big pixels
this is deceptive, as it's getting around the focal length issue 😛
brisk swift
@frosty shard Do u guide when using ur RC for visual
frosty shard
<@183411689452994561> Do u guide when using ur RC for visual
I don't think that's even possible
brisk swift
I don't think that's even possible
guide scope?
frosty shard
Not that you'd need it – the error with a harmonic drive mount is too small to notice visually
frosty shard
guide scope?
Whoops I was only thinking of OAGs
frosty shard
this is deceptive, as it's getting around the focal length issue 😛
More so to solve issues of illumination rather than field size
brisk swift
Not that you'd need it – the error with a harmonic drive mount is too small to n...
I got the gem28 not am5n so do I need it?
frosty shard
I got the gem28 not am5n so do I need it?
Harmonic drive mounts have more aperiodic error than standard GEMs – guiding is unnecessary for visual
analog portal
i used my gem28 visually with an 8" SCT on it, should be fine
brisk swift
What about imaging
brisk swift
what can u see with ur scope visually? @frosty shard
analog portal
More so to solve issues of illumination rather than field size
stars are easily illuminated enough for phd2 at f/8 - f/10
frosty shard
stars are easily illuminated enough for phd2 at f/8 - f/10
What guide cam do you use?
analog portal
player one sedna-m
my asi120mm mini would work as well, but smaller fov so i ditched it
frosty shard
what can u see with ur scope visually? <@183411689452994561>
Pretty much anything you can see in an 8" telescope, really. I mean you have a little less contrast on planetary detail, but the light grasp is excellent
brisk swift
Uh I got the 6" 
frosty shard
It showed me the Triangulum Galaxy, Rosette Nebula, several small galaxies in Ursa Major, many planetary nebulae, etc
brisk swift
what bortle
frosty shard
Uh I got the 6" <:pepeSuperSad:866536947332808735>
It's still going to be as good as most other 6" telescopes
frosty shard
what bortle
That was first light in Bortle 3
brisk swift
I'm in bortle 4
frosty shard
I usually observe in Bortle 7-8
frosty shard
player one sedna-m
Oh that one has pretty small pixels – I decided to splurge on a Xena-M just in case
But honestly it's good to hear that the Sedna-M does the job
analog portal
when on my rc8, i use it in bin2. on the other scopes, bin1. but the xena-m has more fov though, you should enjoy it 🙂
brisk swift
u have a gem28? @analog portal
analog portal
yeah, and a gem45
rc8 sits on the 45, my fma180 pro or at80edt will sit on the gem28, depending on what i'm doing
brisk swift
rc8 sits on the 45, my fma180 pro or at80edt will sit on the gem28, depending o...
Can the gem28 be good enough for carbon rc6? ( imaging)
analog portal
i'm not sure, what's your rc6 weigh?
analog portal
yeah i think so. imaging stuff shouldn't be too much more
i did use my gem28 imaging with an 8" SCT and OSC camera with OAG, it was ok in RA, but my DEC was having issues due to balance to make proper corrections
brisk swift
SCTS are back heavy tho
analog portal
so's the RC
brisk swift
the seconday of RC makes it less back heavy
analog portal
true. however, with my moonlite focuser my rc is just as back heavy as the sct was lol
analog portal
it's a terrible problem!
oh, i forgot to mention! when i put more weight on my GEM28, I had to tighten the RA gears. 
analog portal
it came from the factory a bit loose. i started to slew when i put an at115edt on it with a minipier, it dropped violently making a terrible sound of gears skipping over each other
brisk swift
nothing else
brisk swift
it came from the factory a bit loose. i started to slew when i put an at115edt ...
ain't that scope like 6-7kg?
analog portal
i caught it before it hit the tripod, and spent the next day inside tweaking the tension/tightness
yeah, about 6kg
brisk swift
the retailers check everything before shipping the mount so idts I should be worried
analog portal
i got mine from High Point back several years ago
brisk swift
did u notice any more problems?
analog portal
i switched the tripod from that one to the gem45 later on, because the gem28 had built in vibration discs on the bottom, and the gem45 did not. same size legs, different 'tops' though. i setup on my roof and the extra weight on the gem45 would poke through the roof if not for the discs
nah, no more issues after those adjustments
it was about a year after that when i had the sct on it
brisk swift
analog portal
i got that in august 2021, it's only gone up $200 since
my gem28 came with the same bottoms on the tripod as this thing: https://www.ioptron.com/product-p/8034.htm
i don't see many other gem28 with that
brisk swift
i got that in august 2021, it's only gone up $200 since
I got it for 1450usd
brisk swift
harsh matrix
Sexy scope
prime sequoia
harsh matrix
that dumb moon looks like the sun 😭
harsh matrix
Tonight is another testing night for me. Focus on the oag has been a pain
TRUE
prime sequoia
So much so I am really considering getting a 2600mc dual.
I tested and it does fully illuminate a full frame dslr so it should work.
I wonder if I can get my one club member to let me borrow his 2600 dual and try it out.
harsh matrix
I tested and it does fully illuminate a full frame dslr so it should work.
It does?
frosty shard
It does?
The GSO RCs were definitely designed to illuminate full frame sensors, though field curvature is the big limiting factor
harsh matrix
The GSO RCs were definitely designed to illuminate full frame sensors, though fi...
interesting
analog portal
The GSO RCs were definitely designed to illuminate full frame sensors, though fi...
https://www.optics-pro.com/flatteners-correctors-reducers/ts-optics-corrector-for-rc-telescopes-2-/p,21856 this is what i have.
although i have swapped it out for the CCDT67 though
it claims it works as a focal reducer in that page, don't believe it. i stay at f/8 @ 1600mm with it in
frosty shard
it claims it works as a focal reducer in that page, don't believe it. i stay at ...
...that is interesting...
analog portal
it's not something the manufacturer claims. it's listed elsewhere and specifically says it doesn't impact focal length
prime sequoia
frosty shard
So I just realized my RC actually needed to be recollimated
Easy job actually, I just had to tweak the secondary
...and that is why my RC wasn't doing too hot on Jupiter last night
Now at 203x I can clearly see the belt eruptions
frosty shard
Yeah the planets were lit tonight
On the other hand, my 8 mm Baader Hyperion might have an issue somewhere. It has a ton of on-axis chromatic aberration
frosty shard
Really making the most of my RC's imaging capability tonight
frosty shard
My telescope is on Wikipedia again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_baffle
high aspen
Now at 203x I can clearly see the belt eruptions
showwww
harsh matrix
Easy job actually, I just had to tweak the secondary
told ya
brisk swift
Yup <:peepocozy:1162598918081761283>
congratulations cutie
bronze wigeon
Yup <:peepocozy:1162598918081761283>
Congrats!
high aspen
Well you'll have to look through the eyepiece
drop the address 🔥
frosty shard
drop the address 🔥
Sterling Hall
475 N Charter St
Madison, WI 53706
(fun fact: the building was bombed once in 1970)
high aspen
Sterling Hall
475 N Charter St
Madison, WI 53706
damn, wrong country
vapid patio
Ahhhh
Well
I am getting one on Saturday. I don’t have a flatter. Will it matter since I have a micro 4/3 sensor? It’s only really using the middle of the scope.
frosty shard
I am getting one on Saturday. I don’t have a flatter. Will it matter since I hav...
Not a problem - the field should be flat enough for sensors up to APS-C size
vapid patio
Thats grewt to hear
And also
How hard is it to guide?
I bought a huge guide scope let me send you the linl
Link and im paring it with a asi120mm
vapid patio
@frosty shard
analog portal
I have that same guide scope, but don't use it anymore. Your guiding with that will look good, but remember that's a lot shorter than your focal length is, which could impact sharpness of your subs.
frosty shard
Generally you want to use an off-axis guider with an RC
I've heard of people being successful with guidescopes though
analog portal
i used that guidescope/camera combo on my at115edt, and since then i've switched to OAG. it worked well for the ~800mm focal length.
vapid patio
But arent oag expensive?
vapid patio
i used that guidescope/camera combo on my at115edt, and since then i've switched...
Its 1370mm
analog portal
not much more than that scope
vapid patio
But i have a small guide camera so it should be really zoomed in
analog portal
right but it's still only 240mm focal length, your 'zoomed in' is just the field of view
analog portal
if you already bought it, may as well try it out and see how it works 🙂
vapid patio
True, amazon does not care
analog portal
i use that guide scope as a finder scope with a 1.25" diagonal in the end and an eyepiece now 😛
frosty shard
But i have a small guide camera so it should be really zoomed in
The issue is differential flexure (the RC OTA bending differently from the guidescope)
You'll know it's happening when your guiding numbers are excellent but your subs look like garbage
But I'd also suggest just trying it anyway
You might not have significant issues
vapid patio
I have dew heaters for it maybe to keep it steady
vapid patio
But I'd also suggest just trying it anyway
Yeah ok i will try
analog portal
it's generally a sturdy configuration if you have it tightened well.
the issue i had the most was the helical focuser had some slop in it. after a meridian flip, it would throw off the framing a bit
vapid patio
Or i could piggy back my apaturea 72mm as a guide scope haha
vapid patio
the issue i had the most was the helical focuser had some slop in it. after a m...
Hmm yeah i could see that
analog portal
i worded that wrong
it was the focus 'tube' that extends out, not the helical part
frosty shard
@vapid patio biggest RC tip: stick a diagonal and eyepiece in it and have a look through it :)
vapid patio
I dont have eye pieces
frosty shard
Fair enough
harsh matrix
Yay the cult is growing
vapid patio
Yay the cult is growing <:PepeHype:853356001636777995>
Hows your scope?
Do you have the carbon one or astro tech?
Ive seen 2 scopes
frosty shard
Do you have the carbon one or astro tech?
We both have the Apertura CarbonStar versions (Veloren with the 6", me with the 8")
vapid patio
Sick
frosty shard
I have only really used mine for visual astronomy though, so I'm not going to be the most knowledgeable when it comes to imaging with mine
vapid patio
They are all pretty much the same? As in quality not as in size
vapid patio
I have only really used mine for visual astronomy though, so I'm not going to be...
Ahh ok
frosty shard
All consumer RCs are made by GSO and are rebadged, so they're mostly the same
They may come with different accessories though, which notably includes the focuser
prime sequoia
so with my focuser I found that it likes to slip.
I have the tension high and it still slips out every now and then
harsh matrix
Do you have the carbon one or astro tech?
Apertura Carbonstar
harsh matrix
They are all pretty much the same? As in quality not as in size
Apertura's focuser is better than most of if not all of the other options
harsh matrix
No
frosty shard
Can I take the one off my other scopes and put it on?
Only if the focuser has an M90 thread, which I think is specific to GSO Ritchey–Chrétiens and classical Cassegrains
vapid patio
Aw man
analog portal
gonna use my RC8 and 2x.5 reducers to record the eclipse tonight. 🙏
harsh matrix
gonna use my RC8 and 2x.5 reducers to record the eclipse tonight. 🙏
2?!?
Is that going to work?
analog portal
sure! .5 takes it to 50% reduced, another .5 takes me to .75% reduced (overall)
just gotta watch for reflections and physics
who wouldn't want an 8" f/2 RC 😅
oblique sun
oblique sun
who wouldn't want an 8" f/2 RC 😅
its not an rct but its the closest thing ive seen to that
vapid patio
sure! .5 takes it to 50% reduced, another .5 takes me to .75% reduced (overall)
can you just use a .75 reducer?
analog portal
i would need a .25% reducer
analog portal
i was joking about my rc8 use tonight, btw. i have the CCDT67 reducer for mine. depending on spacing, i can shoot between f/5.6 or f/6.4 ... usually i stay at f/6.4
i think it could be reduced further, but i don't have the proper spacers to get the spacing for it 😅
that takes me from 1600mm to 1300mm focal length at f/6.4
harsh matrix
i wanna get a reducer for my 8"
Which brand of RC did you get?
harsh matrix
astro tech
Oh interesting
@analog portal is the Astro tech RC line another GSO rebrand?
vapid patio
brain and force said it is
@harsh matrix also what is that bar that goes on the top of the scope called/
harsh matrix
<@293187070753505281> also what is that bar that goes on the top of the scope c...
Looks like it's just another Vixen Dovetail bar to me
It's the exact same dimensions as the one in the bottom side of my scope
harsh matrix
any clue on where to get one?
Agena Astro or High Point Scientific if you are in the US
You might have to ask brain for the dimensions of the one on top of the 8" RC
Mine's a 6" and idk if the length of the tube is the same, I'd assume not.
analog portal
i would need a .25% reducer
not bad for an RC
harsh matrix
I can order the Carbonstar RC8 pretty soon if i save for a few more weeks
thorny path
How easy is guiding with a strain wave mount with an RC + OAG
I was doing first light with mount and found 1 sec exposures do very well surprisingly
I thought I would be chasing seeing or something
How difficult is it to find a star with an OAG
analog portal
How difficult is it to find a star with an OAG
finding a star in your OAG largely depends on focal length, guide camera sensor size & oag prism size, and of course... light pollution.
i do 2.5 to 3s exposures in PHD2 guiding my RC8 on my gem45, guiding in bortle 6. it's not terrible at all.
frosty shard
How difficult is it to find a star with an OAG
I talked with another RC owner who uses an Askar OAG and an ASI174MM Mini guide cam and he's said he's never had any trouble finding guide stars (it's a pretty popular combo with RC users it seems)
The Player One Xena-M uses the same sensor and is really better than the ASI174MM Mini (cheaper, has USB3)
frosty shard
I was doing first light with mount and found 1 sec exposures do very well surpri...
Are you using a traditional GEM or a strain wave mount?
harsh matrix
Are you using a traditional GEM or a strain wave mount?
Strain Wave
Ragdoll 17 i think
frosty shard
Ah right you need pretty fast guiding cadences for those
thorny path
I got .3 rms last night
I’m very happy
I worry that with an RC and slower system that at 1sec I will struggle
I have a 462 btw
Idk if that is ideal for OAG
harsh matrix
I have a 462 btw
It would probably be a bit small
But my 120MM is similar in size and I haven't had problems getting a guide star until galaxy season now
I have to order a camera with a bigger sensor.
harsh matrix
I assumed any would do
I think you could make it work if the camera is sensitive enough
And if you don't live in bortle 20
brisk swift
frosty shard
I have to order a camera with a bigger sensor.
Still waiting on my Xena-M to ship lol
harsh matrix
Still waiting on my Xena-M to ship lol
oh jeez wtf
P1 doesnt normally take that long
frosty shard
It's them waiting on a supplier, they were pretty helpful when I inquired
But I'm not in a rush at the moment. Got too much visual work to do lol
high aspen
<:pepeWave:866536781679296552>
Hai :3
thorny path
i see used GSO 6" RC
the focuser design hasnt changed much except the front part being flattened for an EAF. so i can find some m4 screw somewhere for better tightening
harsh matrix
i see used GSO 6" RC <:AwkwardSmile:892230500427628574>
just make sure it's not a very old one
thorny path
just make sure it's not a very old one
How does one tell this ?
harsh matrix
How does one tell this ?
you'd have to ask the owner how long theyve had it, probably
thorny path
Oh ok 🙏
350 shipped
I’ll ask when he got it and if his focuser is EAF compatible
I wonder if these have mirror flop issues. It seems even the newer carbon stars are the exact same almost
harsh matrix
350 shipped
you bought it?
harsh matrix
I’ll ask when he got it and if his focuser is EAF compatible
it might be but i dont think it can handle much weight
harsh matrix
I wonder if these have mirror flop issues. It seems even the newer carbon stars ...
mine doesnt appear to have mirror flop, but im also using a 533 so if there is any movement, it's likely not noticeable with this sensor
thorny path
you bought it?
Not yet
harsh matrix
I dont think my flats would work ever
thorny path
Just what it says on listing
harsh matrix
if it did flop
thorny path
I wonder cause I see it a lot on forums with GSO ones. Might be worth crying and buying once with the CS
Was thinking on a .75x reducer but I realize there’s a lot of small targets I wanna shoot this summer
harsh matrix
i use my 0.67x reducer most of the time and i find that it allows my RC to virtually ignore seeing
that's how I am resolving globs in M81 and M82
it probably would still resolve them without the reducer but guiding around those galaxies at that focal length with a 120MM is painful
btw @thorny path this is what Apertura's manual says about the primary mirror's mounting situation
thorny path
I hear The whole “seeing limited” a lot
Is it that bad where you prefer that reducer ?
I’d like to use it at its native FL
harsh matrix
and judging by the fact that I seem to get pinched optics on the primary with the temps being where they are right now with large fluctuations in this period of time, i'd be inclined to agree
harsh matrix
Is it that bad where you prefer that reducer ?
not really
i actually quite like the native focal length
i just dont like shooting at native with my OAG + the 120MM
thorny path
Ah
harsh matrix
i have a hard time getting guide stars because the camera just sucks
harsh matrix
My sharpest data sets came from shooting without the reducer
thorny path
Low key goated with collimation since my experience with the evil sky watcher one
I’ll have to get an OAG as well since I’ve been putting that off
harsh matrix
Like this M51 pic
Oh and the other reason I don't like native sometimes is the f ratio, which in B7 can make things excessively difficult.
harsh matrix
I would definitely shoot at native at a dark sky site
harsh matrix
Did you see the eclipse btw ?
No, got clouded out.
thorny path
I got lucky
With carbon star
I saw it through my eye piece and I saw very little red
But I guess that cause of low contrast with newt
vapid patio
Lads
I need some help
Back focus is so hard to get my astro tech rc6
As its the clamp thing and not a screw on
analog portal
What are you trying to focus?
harsh matrix
As its the clamp thing and not a screw on
You need to add spacers between the primary mirror and the focuser which requires you to remove the focuser
I believe the 50 mm spacer is sufficient to reach focus too
Thats the bigger of the 3 that should have come with the scope
analog portal
Backfocus
If you don't have enough focus 'out' then do what Veloren says, or if it's unable to focus 'in' then you may have to remove the spacer between the focuser and back of the OTA. (I have to do that for visual use)
high aspen
btw <@424403951035875339> this is what Apertura's manual says about the primary ...
i personally like my mirror to shift at least an inch per session
high aspen
Like this M51 pic <:wholesome:1231830046491152424>
is that a third midget galaxy i see?
vapid patio
If you don't have enough focus 'out' then do what Veloren says, or if it's unabl...
Look at this
How in the world am i gonna get back focus like this
analog portal
try un screwing the compression ring attachment from the focuser
under that is likely where you'll screw your camera on
vapid patio
r u enjoying your rc <:AwkwardSmile:892230500427628574>
No
high aspen
I GOT STOPPED BY AN UPDATE FOR WINDOWS FIRST
high aspen
I cant get the stupid back focus
when you get it you may enjoy it
vapid patio
when you get it you may enjoy it
If i can guide it
high aspen
If i can guide it
thats also ture
analog portal
I cant get the stupid back focus
did you remove the part i suggested?
harsh matrix
is that a third midget galaxy i see?
At the bottom and left? Yes.
harsh matrix
did you remove the part i suggested?
He didn't have the spacers included with the scope
Thats the issue.
analog portal
Well, he also has the spacers on the camera fully inserted into the focuser tube instead of screwed on...
vapid patio
did you remove the part i suggested?
Let me do it right now
high aspen
At the bottom and left? Yes.
yay :3
vapid patio
?
analog portal
This piece
vapid patio
This piece
Must be hard to get out
harsh matrix
Well, he also has the spacers on the camera fully inserted into the focuser tube...
Oh wait you're right
analog portal
it can be very stiff. 😅 it should come off. the spacer Veloren is talking about on the other end of the focuser, mine was practically welded on lol
darned near sprained my wrist twisting it off
harsh matrix
Now I see where the confusion is
I didn't think about that. I remember now that when I used the compression ring to hold the camera, I needed a 50 mm + 25 mm spacer ring to reach focus
If you can thread the camera on directly, you should only need the 50 mm spacer which i think you have by the looks of things.
vapid patio
No it doesnt come out
high aspen
No it doesnt come out
threaten it until it does
vapid patio
The little compressing thing on the back does not come off
analog portal
issue a subpoena!
every scope i've had, from the cheap old celestron omni xlt, has that part screwed onto the focus tube
vapid patio
Dude i am telling you it dies not come off as it is one peice
analog portal
i'm flabbergasted. what model is that?
analog portal
hrm
you're saying there is no seem there?
Looking at Cloudy Nights, it seems that actually is a solid piece. That's a really poor design. 😦
harsh matrix
There is no seem at all
Well i guess that's correct
Looks like you're getting a 25 mm extension ring.
harsh matrix
my RC just casually split Polaris
not even acclimated to outside, focused, or have good seeing
harsh matrix
another over sharpened over denoised SCT image 
this one too
(I know not every instance of oversharpening + over denoising and maybe even background clipping is from an SCT user but it's more often than not from one )
one of the only scopes that leads to this happening at a much higher rate than others
actually just seeing a lot of bad images rn 
harsh matrix
What is this phenomenon called ?
Idk lmao
high aspen
i think amma get the Sky-Watcher EQ-AL55i PRO
i want everyone to be unable to sleep
with its cries
brisk swift
i think amma get the Sky-Watcher EQ-AL55i PRO <:AwkwardSmile:892230500427628574>
did u watch astrobackyards vid
high aspen
did u watch astrobackyards vid
quar?
all i know is the backlash will make me want to kms
did he talk about the backlash
and did he talk about how it sounds like it's dying
vapid patio
Looking at Cloudy Nights, it seems that actually is a solid piece. That's a rea...
Exactly
analog portal
tornado watch, time to bring in the mount 😅
high aspen
his new vid
just watched
brisk swift
just watched
svbony s550 aint bad tbh
high aspen
svbony s550 aint bad tbh
i prefer newtons ngl
they cheaper and better f-stop
per focal length
brisk swift
no collimation and wide fov
high aspen
no collimation and wide fov
i like not wide fov personally
brisk swift
I like smoll galaxies so neither do i
analog portal
oh shizzle, i'm pink again
high aspen
oh shizzle, i'm pink again
ohh nooo
analog portal
last time this happened, i rage quit the server
analog portal
back in the old days i was red, and new roles were added and i became pink
i am not fond of this hue
harsh matrix
tornado watch, time to bring in the mount 😅
Rip
analog portal
it was coming in anyway tbh, winds are gusting at 25mph and higher. i was worried the cover would tear, since it's tied to the tripod legs. or it would act as a sail and topple the gem45.
harsh matrix
True dat
harsh matrix
love my RC
sometimes it makes me not want to get the 8" but I know I will like that way more...
harsh matrix
love my RC <:wholesome:1231830046491152424>
this is all of the red channel data from just last night
harsh matrix
I stand my ground when I claimed it was easier to collimate one of these RC's than it was yo collimate my f/3.45 quattro
That will not change 
vapid patio
Do you guys think i will have trouble guiding with a 260mm 60mm guide scope?
Oag was out of the budget
harsh matrix
Do you guys think i will have trouble guiding with a 260mm 60mm guide scope?
You got an RC8 right?
vapid patio
6
oblique sun
Do you guys think i will have trouble guiding with a 260mm 60mm guide scope?
answer to this would help me too, i have the same guide scope and planning on an rc6 eventually
harsh matrix
for reference, i was encountering differential flexture with a 162 mm 50 mm guide scope
im not sure how much of a difference another 100 mm of focal length will make, but i suspect it may not be enough to get sharp stars.
vapid patio
I plan to but not for awhile
Also my mount was hyper tuned
And i am running half the weight it can holf
Hold
harsh matrix
i suspect it will still wobble around a lot despite what your guiding says, so i dont think you will get perfect stars, but i expect it to be manageable in that case
just dont expect to be able to get 5 minute subs
i couldnt get longer than 60 second exposures when i was guiding with a guide scope, even with the RC reduced.
you will get subs that arent trailed, i just dont know how long you will be able to go for before you get trailing
harsh matrix
wait but you have 8"?
i have the 6"
harsh matrix
whats the best oag you recommend
i really like the QHY OAG-M Pro atm
the prism is very big, big enough to support whatever guide cam you have now and in the future
the largest sensor I know of on a guide cam (in my knowledge) is the Player One Xena-M and that fits snugly with the prism on my OAG
cant wait to order it because guiding will be easy once I have it
vapid patio
i have asi120mm does that work>
harsh matrix
i have asi120mm does that work>
yes but very hard to manage when shooting galaxies
vapid patio
good lord that oag is 250
harsh matrix
you get plenty of guide stars near the galactic plane, but outside, you are pretty SOL
vapid patio
i might be screwed
harsh matrix
good lord that oag is 250
yeah but buy once cry once
vapid patio
true
harsh matrix
i spent a lot of money i was not prepared to spend and i was crying with every purchase, but now my rig runs perfectly every night, reliably, and I get excellent pictures because of it
it was worth it in the end
makes me excited to get out and shoot every night knowing my equipment can handle whatever i throw at it
the ZWO OAG was really making me hate guiding with an OAG, and it was impossible to use with a filter wheel
vapid patio
i have 39 cent rn
harsh matrix
that's what made me buy the QHY OAG, i didnt want any problems from then on.
harsh matrix
or do i sound like a clown rn
no it's feasible the guide scope will work
like i said, i could do 60 second exposures with a 50 mm guide scope, my 120MM, on a stock EQM-35 Pro
vapid patio
its a f/9 and i have a asi533mc pro im cooked
harsh matrix
whether or not you can do better than that, idk
vapid patio
could you explain differential flexture to me like im 5
harsh matrix
could you explain differential flexture to me like im 5
essentially, the rate of movement of the sky perceived by the imaging camera + scope is different than what is perceived by the guide scope + camera
that's an extremely butchered and over simplified explanation but that's virtually what it means once you break it down to the fundamentals
vapid patio
but what if i get t hem to see the same part of the sky?
harsh matrix
since the guide scope is a lower focal length than the imaging scope, the guide camera perceives a slower rate of movement than the imaging camera does, and so over time, that can present as star trails
harsh matrix
but what if i get t hem to see the same part of the sky?
doesnt matter
it's unfixable
without some unimaginably solid mounting solution for the guide scope
vapid patio
it's unfixable
oh ok i see what you mean
harsh matrix
since the guide scope is a lower focal length than the imaging scope, the guide ...
btw the cause of this is that any kind of flex in the system, even down to nanometer scale, means that the guide camera cannot correct for what the imaging camera is actually seeing
vapid patio
yeah
harsh matrix
oh ok i see what you mean
as for me, i couldnt even get my guide scope to point at the same place in the sky as my RC
the lower position of your guide scope will probably be a big help
vapid patio
well mine has those up down left right things
harsh matrix
well mine has those up down left right things
mine does too
vapid patio
the lower position of your guide scope will probably be a big help
like not on the top of the scope?
harsh matrix
but my guide scope is on a tall pedestal thing
harsh matrix
like not on the top of the scope?
i mean the distance of the camera to the optical plane of the scope is much closer
mine was way more spread apart, making it impossible to align the 2
vapid patio
i see
and since it is a asi120 wont it be pretty zoomed in to account for those small movements?
harsh matrix
and since it is a asi120 wont it be pretty zoomed in to account for those small ...
yes but ultimately it comes down to the resolution allowed by the guide scope's aperture
harsh matrix
mine was way more spread apart, making it impossible to align the 2
for reference
my guide scope is haning off the front on the bottom
i basically use it as a counterweight for the dec now, but you can see it's on a little metal stand thing
harsh matrix
this is the guide ratio for your system
vapid patio
no clue what that means
harsh matrix
generally you want the guide number to be 5 or below
vapid patio
i mean it is 5?.26
harsh matrix
no clue what that means
imaging / guiding
imaging = the resolution of your imaging scope + camera
1370 mm focal length + 3.76 micron pixels = 0.57"/px
guiding = resolution of the guide scope + guide camera
260 mm focal length + 3.75 micron pixels = 2.97"/px
the 5.26 in the ratio means that is how many times worse the resolution of your guiding solution is
1:5 is really bad
not ideal, but manageable in some cases
above that is unsuitable
vapid patio
hm
harsh matrix
1:3 is generally good or acceptable
1:2 or lower than 2 is great and adequate
that's enlightening for me too
i wanted to look into getting a bigger guide scope to maybe get around OAG guiding altogether
but I do like being able to guide for 10 minutes
with no star trails
vapid patio
i have a spare scope.. apaturea 72 edr that i could piggy back?
harsh matrix
i have a spare scope.. apaturea 72 edr that i could piggy back?
if your mount can handle that, definitely
vapid patio
but I do like being able to guide for 10 minutes <:kekw:1069600214090002574>
wish i stayed with 250mm scopes
vapid patio
if your mount can handle that, definitely
it only weighs 4 pounds haha
vapid patio
haha let me sewnd you the link
harsh matrix
how much focal length does it have
vapid patio
thanks 
harsh matrix
oh wow
vapid patio
with feild flatter my bad
harsh matrix
that's way more suitable
that would possibly work VERY well
just as long as however you mount it is solid
vapid patio
hehe how well we talking
vapid patio
just as long as however you mount it is solid
50 50
harsh matrix
1:2.5
vapid patio
YAY
harsh matrix
not bad at all for the ratio
vapid patio
let me set it up i wanna send a pic HAHAHAHA
harsh matrix
harsh matrix
YAY
oh wait i put in my focal length
it's still 1:3.18
which is workable and not a big deal
if you get the reducer for the RC, it would be a perfect pairing though
vapid patio
I am drilling holes this is gonna work!
harsh matrix
oblique sun
I am drilling holes this is gonna work!
i drilled holes in my tube to add guiding too
i ended up with a bent tube but i fixed it
vapid patio
i ended up with a bent tube but i fixed it
bent tube?
vapid patio
<:PES_JesusChristAlt:493353111868669953>
iwill do it tmmr
its a lil late here
but if it is directly mounted to the dovetail on the top it will be sturdy asf
oblique sun
bent tube?
#💬-general-chat message if u wanna know what happened lol
vapid patio
oh hell nah
so youi drilled into thew tube???
im just drilling into the plate on the top
vapid patio
for reference
like this top of the scoope
oblique sun
im just drilling into the plate on the top
o
oblique sun
so youi drilled into thew tube???
yea cause i had no other option
vapid patio
oag
oblique sun
my scope is not meant for imaging at all, there is no way to add guiding
oblique sun
oag <:AwkwardSmile:892230500427628574>
would not work either
unreplacable shitty helical focuser
well might work
but still
vapid patio
so what scope?
vapid patio
the table top dob?
oblique sun
yes
vapid patio
at some point i will get an rc6 and end the pain with this thing
haha not much better
oblique sun
moved onto a new mount ofc
vapid patio
thats good
oblique sun
haha not much better
it def will be
this thing was designed with zero imaging capability in mind
vapid patio
rc6?
vapid patio
this thing was designed with zero imaging capability in mind
yeah
oblique sun
the mirrors are good
vapid patio
oh wait you sai rc6 already
well do you have a oag to put on it?
or a spare scope haha
oblique sun
no but i have a 240mm guidescope
vapid patio
https://www.highpointscientific.com/apertura-72mm-doublet-ed-refractor-telescope...
im putting this on top of it
vapid patio
no but i have a 240mm guidescope
i have 260 and im screwed
@harsh matrix should i just sell the scope and get oag haha
harsh matrix
<@293187070753505281> should i just sell the scope and get oag haha
eh probably not
at least give it a shot first
vapid patio
eh probably not
just dont want it to pull on the ota? and bend it?
harsh matrix
just dont want it to pull on the ota? and bend it?
i meant give the 260 a try
vapid patio
everything you have told me tonight tells me it sucks
harsh matrix
youre probably screwed but idk about entirely
harsh matrix
everything you have told me tonight tells me it sucks
yeah but you have other scopes to shoot with right?
I wouldnt want to sell off my only guide scope and use an OAG on everything else
harsh matrix
that would be horrible
vapid patio
I wouldnt want to sell off my only guide scope and use an OAG on everything else
i have 2 other guide scopes
vapid patio
smaller 165mm scopes for redcat and apaturea
so what about the piggy backing the scope? you not with it anymore?
harsh matrix
so what about the piggy backing the scope? you not with it anymore?
didnt you just say you dont want to bend the OTA?
i think it is incredibly unlikely to bend it but i wouldnt push it if you think it's a possibility
I WILL say this though
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i mean yeah idk if it even would i was jusst trowing it out there
harsh matrix
your OTA is steel
if it was aluminum, i think bending, or heavy flexture would be a concern.
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i just got the scope yesterday so i dont know it yet lol
harsh matrix
I am not so sure about steel being that worrisome.
harsh matrix
i just got the scope yesterday so i dont know it yet lol
i mean, people have done crazier things with SCT's.
people piggyback their redcats on their 8" and 10" newts all the time too
plus youre mounting it on the top rail, right?
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yep
harsh matrix
that allows for more even weight distributing which makes bending even less likely
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would i wanna drill the holes higher or lower? more twards the back or front of scope
harsh matrix
plus the primary and secondary mirror support cells are solid metal, i think steel
those wont be moving
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that allows for more even weight distributing which makes bending even less like...
yeah i mean its held in with 4 screws lol
harsh matrix
yeah i mean its held in with 4 screws lol
large threaded screws too
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you have same scope?
harsh matrix
would i wanna drill the holes higher or lower? more twards the back or front of ...
arent you having issues balancing the dec?
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no not anymore. i wasent familiar on what "balanced" was with these moutns truly are
harsh matrix
no not anymore. i wasent familiar on what "balanced" was with these moutns truly...
ah ok
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like i cant just unlock the clutches and move it and it stays still
harsh matrix
if it is balanced right now, try to get the guide scope to be as close to the center of mass as possible
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easy
harsh matrix
like i cant just unlock the clutches and move it and it stays still
that's good then
you may have to move your counterweights for the RA, of course, but it's more than possible your dec can remain balanced
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but the "guide scope" is backheavy as i will have a flatter on the baack and other adapters
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that's good then
it is?
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you may have to move your counterweights for the RA, of course, but it's more th...
i have 2 weights i will be good
harsh matrix
o that was hard for me to understand ig 
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so that means the scope is back heavy, so positioning the guide scope toward the front will help with that
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no not this mount ig
harsh matrix
no not this mount ig
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i followed the manual. balance RA by roating flat, then balace dec while it is sideways
harsh matrix
i followed the manual. balance RA by roating flat, then balace dec while it is s...
so is it supposed to be able to fall in whatever direction it is heavier in?
that seems like you will have massive dec backlash problems
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even with nothingh on the mount the dec axis falls one way
harsh matrix
even with nothingh on the mount the dec axis falls one way
that doesnt mean it's supposed to do that with a payload
my EQM-35 is the same way
i will have really bad guiding if i dont get it to where it doesnt move if i unlock the dec clutch
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could you send me a vidoe of what your scope does wqhen you unlock the clutchs
i need a reference
harsh matrix
could you send me a vidoe of what your scope does wqhen you unlock the clutchs
i cant
you can follow what Galactic Hunter does though
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big problem for my mount then
i cant like push it however i want
it cant stay balanced
it sways left or right
even with nothing on the scope. it goes to one side no matte how i have it
harsh matrix
that's... not ideal.