Redcat 51 + IMX533 Users

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star tests on my fixed redcat with a comparison of before

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for the side by sides left side is after fix, right side is before

the last image is the shape of my "point source" being resolved by my redcat now that it's so fuqing sharp

ive not had a scope able to do that before

grats on guiding finally

are your stars all wonky in shape?

M106 has some kind of gradient in it still

[inland matrix]

Holy shit

I'm looking forward to see some Thomas like images from your

[prime matrix]

My stars are only weird on the globular cluster and yeah, I think m 106 may have some gradient

I got more data on 106 tonight

[subtle sorrel]

@tranquil mountain I tried it again finally

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Yooo! Congrats!!

[rare copper]

Nice, what bortle

[prime matrix]

4/5

[prime matrix]

M-106 3hr 30min

[inland matrix]

oh boy... your colimation seems off as well

[prime matrix]

Collation or tilt

[inland matrix]

maybe

hope it is tilt

[inland matrix]

@subtle sorrel how do you get these individual rings on a artifical star when beeing not in focus. When I defocus my star I just have a disk with a slightly brighter outline

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New image

How’s mine looking?

[inland matrix]

long stars you have there

but you stretched your stars weird so I cant say

[faint plover]

Bad tracking

apparently maybe even the very bad backlash that I have not tuned yet

[subtle sorrel]

Have to adjust the gain and exposure time.

[inland matrix]

Okee

[inland matrix]

Doesn't work :[

Adjusted gain and exposure time for half an hour but I only got a small blobb

[subtle sorrel]

it's supposed to be a small blob

and Nina and Asiair will do an auto stf so it always appears brighter than it actually is

[inland matrix]

What do I have to do to see the rings?

Gain of 450 and around 0.0005s exposures

[subtle sorrel]

Like no gain lol

I was using 0 gain and 0.001s exposures.

[inland matrix]

Bruh

Okay

Ill try

[subtle sorrel]

@tranquil mountain I'm at a bortle 3 rn and brought the cat

My smallest stars are quite literally single pixels in size

With very little overflow into neighboring pixels.

[tranquil mountain]

Get more boogie

[subtle sorrel]

It set already

[tranquil mountain]

What are you shooing then?

[subtle sorrel]

M81 and M82 for ifn

[tranquil mountain]

Oh nice

You gonna be there for more than 1 night?

[subtle sorrel]

Fingers crossed yes

I plan to shoot Lum all night tonight

Get color tomorrow night

I guess tonight night now

[faint plover]

Bros living my dream

Bortle 3 with a cat

[inland matrix]

Damn

[subtle sorrel]

Shot this with my Canon and a wide lens

Raw btw

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My FWHM with the cat last night was 1.67

Compared to the 1.89 ish it was at the very lowest before.

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With BlurX

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@subtle sorrel I’ll 100% go to the b2 place like once or twice in summer

A collab will be pretty doable

[subtle sorrel]

With how often I plan to go to the B2/3 here during the summer, yeah for sure.

Not sure what to shoot, if we pick something toward the south we can maybe rope in QQQ and Sun

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I’m Just worried about not getting enough data tbh

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Yea

[subtle sorrel]

Thats why you pick on target, and shoot it all night

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Like one night is 4 hours or so

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Yea ik

I meant from b2

[subtle sorrel]

Oh yeah with an OSC it'll be harder regardless

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I won’t have much opportunities

[subtle sorrel]

I can cheat a little with mono lmao

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Oh can we even properly combine mono and osc

[subtle sorrel]

I believe there's a way

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I see

[subtle sorrel]

I was just thinking about a proper way to integrate the two at the same time.

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Ur data will be much better tho lol

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Wdym

[subtle sorrel]

Pix WBPP has a way to break OSC images apart into their own channels and process them separately

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I see

[subtle sorrel]

I think, if you're methodical about it, you may be able to stack the individual OSC channels directly into their corresponding mono counterparts.

Or you could break them apart, get R, G, and B stacks, and pixel math them with mono R, G, and B stacks if that won't work

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Yea

[subtle sorrel]

OSC color data with luminance added is OP

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But tbh I’m pretty sure I have seen projects with osc and mono data

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Nice

[subtle sorrel]

Oh you have

If you've seen a massive collaboration image, that's where it has been done

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oh alr

[subtle sorrel]

Heath/stargazer shoots mono, and Beaver shoots OSC

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Prolly even the m81 m82 image we came from lol

[subtle sorrel]

They did it in their collab

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oh yeh

[subtle sorrel]

Exactly.

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we can ask them then

Pretty nice

@tranquil mountain @urban ridge what do yall think of a summer collab?

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What if we all shot Rho or one of those dark tendril lanes below it?

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Or we could do a deep field on/around Lagoon

There's a "secret" above the Eagle Nebula I've been wanting to shoot too.

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U see, I would love to

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The New Zealander who shot it says it's called the Scary Face Nebula

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But our framing is way too small

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Lmao

[subtle sorrel]

Thats the point

There's a lot of really cool dark molecular structure all around it

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I’m smelling a mosaic

!!

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There's something called the Chinese serpant right next door to it

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yessir

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I think in the same framing

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molecular clouds

Wait

AAIT

WAIT

HEAR ME OUT

blue horsehead

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Yo

That would be alright with me

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Hmmm

Shall we

[subtle sorrel]

We would be right up close on it.

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Wdym

[subtle sorrel]

I wonder what kind of small structure we could pull out on it too.

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Ohh yea

Also, how is this?

Everyone takes a different panel

[subtle sorrel]

The picture you shared sums it up

[faint plover]

You mean the nebula is big

Thus we can resolve good detail

?

[subtle sorrel]

That very much depends on the time that both of us get vs what sun and QQQ are able to do

They both essentially live in places where it's easy to shoot this stuff

2 panels may suffer a lack of data

[subtle sorrel]

Correct

Same deal with Rho, while a mosaic would be hard to pull off, signal wise, it may allow us to get a wide, high resolution image too.

[faint plover]

Yea

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Ur right yea

We don’t get much dark skies while they do

I say blue horsehead is perfect

Wow, actually looks better than I thought.

This is by astrobackyard

Even if we don’t end up agreeing to a collab I’ll shoot this myself lol

[subtle sorrel]

Yar

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Yaur

[subtle sorrel]

We could do a 2 panel mosaic on that no problem

Buuuuuuut

Signal is a question again

But 4 people on the same spot can get far more signal than Trevor could there.

His looks pretty mottled on its own, I bet with 4 of us we could get some pretty solid exposure.

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Yea

I say we don’t mess with mosaic stuff

Just one panel and a lot of data

Keep it simple and easy

[subtle sorrel]

Yeah

Even though I'll be limited on what I can get and how much, mine is guaranteed to be high quality

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Wait actually nvm

We may need a 2 panel on blue horsehead

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I can’t guarantee

Nah jk

😈

[subtle sorrel]

With guiding you should

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Yea prolly

I’ll have it soon

Just need to adjust my backlash

[subtle sorrel]

Without guiding it's always going to be hit or miss

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Yea honestly

My stars are crap

Oval

[subtle sorrel]

Yup exactly

You're at the mercy of periodic error and polar alignment

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Yea exactly lmao

[subtle sorrel]

Oh god my PA at the start of last night was so bad that 5 second exposures had significant trailing

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Lmao what

[subtle sorrel]

Yurp

Cause I set the mount up during the day and couldn't see Polaris till long after sundown, even though i could see some stars near Orion

😭

I processed a single MW sub from this morning

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Wait is this from the b3 place

I saw it somewhere

[subtle sorrel]

Yessers

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Woah

[subtle sorrel]

I put it in general last night but not processed

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Teleport me to you

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Yea I saw it needed a bge

Man I need dark skies

😭😭

[subtle sorrel]

I accidentally shot at 3200 ISO and not 800

So it's going to be noisier than it was supposed to be

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lol

Poor guy

(this is sarcasm, ur extremely lucky to be in b3 )

[tranquil mountain]

Now that looks more like b3

[tranquil mountain]

Sure

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[urban ridge]

Summers already past smh

Along as it isn't super far north

[subtle sorrel]

Winter for you aussies

Blue Horsehead Nebula is out there as an option

[urban ridge]

I could do that

Like 8hrs per night

[subtle sorrel]

Holy fuq

[urban ridge]

Ans it passes 78deh

Deg

[subtle sorrel]

This final night under B3 was chalked

Super clear for 1 hour and then unpredicted high altitude clouds came in and ruined it all.

4 other people ended up coming here tonight because the forecasts looked great

Well I'm glad I came on the night nobody else thought would be any good.

It turned out to be the better of the 2 nights.

[faint plover]

Holy shit

If we do this u will carry

I can get like 8 hours with 2 nights of b2

[urban ridge]

if i start now i could probably get 10hrs

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Darn yea u can 🔥

[inland matrix]

Can I participate with my imx183?

[subtle sorrel]

ill have to give it a shot next time im out there

im still in disbelief at the Milky Way photos i got last night and 2 nights ago

I can see the Rosette nebula in my raw Orion wide field shots

I think these regular trips to bortle 3 are what im going to look forward to the most

ive had a blast every time even if everything hasnt always gone to plan

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U might be able to yea

Wait gimme a sec

Wait what’s the size of it

[subtle sorrel]

smol

smoller than 533

[faint plover]

Dang

I think it’ll work tho?

Idk

[subtle sorrel]

it's too narrow i believe

we're already cropped in enough as is

[inland matrix]

it is not

more width but less hight

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Yh

[subtle sorrel]

is it wider?

and how much less height?

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I think that may actually be good

[subtle sorrel]

@tranquil mountain looks better right?

also you can see ifn in the raw data

[inland matrix]

crazy

[subtle sorrel]

I got a butt load of IFN holy

[inland matrix]

holy shit

[inland matrix]

13.19mm x 8.81mm

[subtle sorrel]

ok so 3 mm short on height

that's not too bad

you could probably contribute assuming you have dark enough skies

im not going to contribute to the collab with data from here at home, it's not worth it

[subtle sorrel]

and i dont mind going out to the bortle 3 site when i keep shooting stuff like this

[subtle sorrel]

Yeah the redcat fricking killed it there

I'm going to be a redcat main for as long as is necessary to complete this project

Meaning i may use it until the end of this month or longer

there's very little or no color fringing on my stars now

[tranquil mountain]

Show starless

[subtle sorrel]

ok

there ya go

there's the "finished" image

i say that because im nowhere near happy with this

i got some work to do to get better at processing IFN + galaxies

[tranquil mountain]

Damn thats nice

How much int is this?

[subtle sorrel]

2 hours and 48 minutes on that lum

[tranquil mountain]

I need these skies bruh

Makes me wonder what would of happened if I brought my mono setup instead of my stock dslr setup for my b1 trips

[subtle sorrel]

something a lot better probably

mono under dark skies is cheating, simply put.

it's so ridiculously efficient

this is why i wanted mono before i started travelling

[tranquil mountain]

My images have been so mid to process in my skies

Like my datasets are not fun to process

[subtle sorrel]

wanna try mine?

[tranquil mountain]

Sure

[subtle sorrel]

not my bortle 3 data

i mean my home data

[tranquil mountain]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1356448367890403449 try this

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U guys should try my b9 data

Then u will know what suffering actually means

[subtle sorrel]

or he could try MY bortle 9 data

either way, it's trash

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Nah mine

[subtle sorrel]

no matter who's you pick

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Mine is worse

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Maybe

U guys wanna try my broadband b9 data?

[subtle sorrel]

nah, is

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From my early days

Guaranteed kill

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[inland matrix]

Holy fuq

I need me rc51 repaired bruh

[subtle sorrel]

yes yuh do

sharp as a hecking knife when it's performing to expectations

[subtle sorrel]

GUYS

I CAN ACTUALLY 2X DRIZZLE WITH THE CAT NOW

this is such a good example of why you should drizzle

but you do need to dither frequently to manage this sort of resolution boost

and by a decent margain

[inland matrix]

holy shit

Why does snr improve though?

[faint plover]

Holy shit, huge difference

I’m gonna be drizzling often now that I’ll be stacking in pix always

[subtle sorrel]

SNR or resolution?

SNR isn't increasing

[inland matrix]

But it looks cleaner

[inland matrix]

Or did you run some noise terminator?

[inland matrix]

Snr

[subtle sorrel]

Oh yes I did

[inland matrix]

Ahh

Okok

[subtle sorrel]

I meant to run noiseX on the 1x version but forgot

So the SNR increase is an illusion and not actually something that happened lmao

[inland matrix]

Yeah

[subtle sorrel]

I may try to go for a more 1 to 1 comparison once I get off of work tonight

[inland matrix]

Why only "Vel" :(

[subtle sorrel]

Either way, the resolution increase is breathtaking.

[subtle sorrel]

Thats what everyone outside of here calls me lol

[inland matrix]

Ah, lol

Ok

[inland matrix]

Yap

Too bad there is not really a point for me to drizzle

After 2x drizzle I have 1.2mu pixels

And a resolution of 40Mp

And it takes like 10 minutes to run a devonvulotion with Grax

[subtle sorrel]

Yeah definitely not lol

[urban ridge]

Just shot bluehordehead with the roki from 10:30pm till 6am

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Data must be amazing

Can’t wait to image it myself

@subtle sorrel Our framing on it is kinda crap I’m ngl

We definetly need a 2 panel mosaic if we are gonna image it

For sure

[urban ridge]

needa call the roki 533 cult ?

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but we don’t have roki

We are redcat enjoyers

[urban ridge]

L

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Redcat is sharper

[rich wedge]

My kitchen knife is shaper

[urban ridge]

roki fov is 4 pannels with redcat

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yup

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nope

Not even close

[subtle sorrel]

I want a roki but I'm too broke for now

[urban ridge]

somehow only 6hrs

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[urban ridge]

might shoot it for a couple nights untill i can be bothered to use the redcat again

takes a while to put the eaf on it

[subtle sorrel]

true

i assume you have to remove the dovetail every time?

cause I do

[urban ridge]

nah

[subtle sorrel]

unless you have a gen2 or older cat in which case,

[urban ridge]

i got gen 2

[subtle sorrel]

Yeaaahhhhhhhhh

[urban ridge]

i just gotta take out the roki and put in the redcat and attach the eaf ring and thats it

ill find a pic of it 1s

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800149179615150090/1334450779636895806/Redcat-51_HEQ5.JPG.jpg?ex=67f04ae2&is=67eef962&hm=12337247f318097f48bf7ca179fb35fa8002a44554df8a3ec83aa895aa03ba02&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1281136200169558036/1318505884220915712/20241217_201054.jpg?ex=67f04b0b&is=67eef98b&hm=441b9d3e4ca2f47a9c907830972147ef69c2822c087904ad603b7b6988bcd53f&

imo it looks so good red and black

[subtle sorrel]

TRUE

[urban ridge]

got the Neptune-M for guiding aswell

[subtle sorrel]

yours is so much cleaner than mine

[urban ridge]

whats urs look like ?

[subtle sorrel]

[urban ridge]

the redcat v3 looks shockingly ugly imo

[subtle sorrel]

I dont think the OTA is ugly per se

[urban ridge]

the focuser 😭

[subtle sorrel]

still looks sexy as hell imo

[urban ridge]

jfc those cords

[subtle sorrel]

yup exactly

[urban ridge]

ig u also got oag and filter wheel which i dont have

[subtle sorrel]

id try to cable manage better but i swap gear around too much

it's just not worth the time and i dont get snags

if it works, why change it?

it's ugly has hell but it's functional

[urban ridge]

fr

im happy solar scopes look sick af while also being functional

half the reason i got it is cuz it looked cool lmao

[subtle sorrel]

I want one for those sexy H-alpha solar pics

also they dropped the price of the redcat gen 3

by 100 bucks

it's not even a sale, it just dropped.

[urban ridge]

👀

god damn my roki stars are good

[subtle sorrel]

yeah theyre some of the better ones ive seen

[tranquil mountain]

1st day in wit the Bernes 142 chameleon pic

[subtle sorrel]

I keep getting robbed with IOTD submissions

[tranquil mountain]

I found your astrobin

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[tranquil mountain]

I dropped you a follow

[subtle sorrel]

@inland matrix @faint plover a fairer comparison for the 1x drizzle vs 2x drizzle images

both had a very, very light pass of blurx and same amount of noisex

same amount of blurX too

[subtle sorrel]

good imma start to drop some bangers on there

[tranquil mountain]

This is what 2x drizzling did on one of my targets once

[subtle sorrel]

HOLY FUQ

that's a redcat?

[tranquil mountain]

Yea

[subtle sorrel]

pre fix 2x drizzle and post fix 2x drizzle

not apples to apples... obviously.

no blurx or noisex

[faint plover]

Stars with drizzle 1X are crap lol

2X takes the dub

Been wondering, how much data is this?

[tranquil mountain]

@subtle sorrel here yo go

Kinda wish i could pull more galaxy details out

[inland matrix]

damn

[subtle sorrel]

2 hours and 48 minutes

[subtle sorrel]

not bad

i definitely have a lot to learn as far as processing IFN goes

that's for sure

[faint plover]

I see

Nice

I wanna go to b2

[faint plover]

Holy

I need to try this

And btw u got ur old pfp back lol nice

I missed this pfp

[inland matrix]

2,3h test stack

Crop

[inland matrix]

Grax deconvolution applied. It created some artifacts

[subtle sorrel]

that doesnt look too bad

I think im happy

what do yall think?

[inland matrix]

yap

Im suprised too

[inland matrix]

You should pull out the structure of M81 a bit more. It looks all mushy. Only the colors gives you a hint how the galaxy looks like

[subtle sorrel]

if i do that i lose definition in M82

[faint plover]

Farking amazing.

[inland matrix]

Cant you just mask M82 and only adjust M81?

[faint plover]

possible im confident

[tranquil mountain]

New project started

Only 3hs, lacking tons of int but ill get there

It’s pretty a bright region overall so id say like a couple nights worth might be enough

[urban ridge]

Mosaic when

[tranquil mountain]

Ab

Maybe

Full rho mosaic will be in #🏆-hall-of-fame

[faint plover]

I wanna do rho opiuchi soo bad

But I don’t think I can go to the b5 place enough

If only narrowband was any useful for reflection nebulae

[inland matrix]

with the 183

[faint plover]

Kinda overstretched but nice!

[subtle sorrel]

@tranquil mountain this is the color correction SPCC gives me

i see too much magenta and green in it imo

idk why its doing this

[subtle sorrel]

I FIXED IT

better color calibration and careful stretching

this is an extremely saturated peek

[subtle sorrel]

is this my BOAT?

[inland matrix]

way better

[plush walrus]

I would get one... if it wasn't 1,599 AUD maybe later.. maybe later would it be worth it at a later date?

or this one

[faint plover]

Get it used.

a lot get it used since they are so expensive

[urban ridge]

Got my redcat51 v2 with eaf for 1200aud

On iceinspace

[faint plover]

Ye exactly

Got my spacecat 51 v1/1.5 with the guide saddle for 600usd

[plush walrus]

ah oki

[plush walrus]

ooh

i've been looking into a Rig with the Redcat 51

seems to be a good pick

[faint plover]

Yep

What mount u looking into?

[faint plover]

@subtle sorrel Hey, so I thought, why not the veil nebula instead of the blue horsehead? Ik the blue horsehead is cool but we can’t even fit it in our fov fully unless we do a 2 panel which is probably gonna be complicated for a collab

This is our framing on it if ur wondering.

[subtle sorrel]

We already have people down to shoot blue horsehead...

[urban ridge]

And veil is still a while from being in season

[faint plover]

hmm

U guys are right

[faint plover]

Well, u think we can pull off a 2 panel?

cuz I sure do think it’s gonna be hard as a collab

[deft frost]

but if you start it now you could get hundreds of hours before it's gone

[urban ridge]

At rhe absolute Max I could get 4hrs per night but never rises over 18deg here iirc

[deft frost]

Dubai is always awake until morning and his area has like unlimited clear skies he could prob do a lot

[urban ridge]

B9

[deft frost]

yea b9 but time beats bortle when you have enough of it

[urban ridge]

His 15 10min subs would be my 1 10min sub

[rare copper]

oof thats low

[subtle sorrel]

My mono data can beat out anything he can get with OSC in any amount of time in those skies.

[rare copper]

dont stab our hearts out like this ;(

[rare copper]

how much different would mono in b9 be compared to osc

would it be like a -1 bortle diff or is that too exaggerated lol

[subtle sorrel]

I'm mono in B9

And the answer is very.

Narrowband even more so imo

Veil would be done in narrowband but the SV220 doesn't do good enough at filtering out his particular light pollution imo.

It was okay here in my skies, and I suspect that it's because my skies here are polluted mainly by older LED's and sodium street lamps.

[rare copper]

what filter would do better in b9 then? i heard the sv220 was a very good alt for the l extreme

[subtle sorrel]

5nm or less monochrome filters

Something like what I'm running rn.

Got this in about 16 hours total integration at f/6

Color would have never been this clean, both because of light pollution and because of shot noise.

Granted, this project could have been even better but circumstances at the time of imaging and the place this passes through the sky made it unfeasible to get more data.

I had to delete a lot of data due to collimation, sub trailing, and weather issues.

[faint plover]

I meant to image it from b2

But yea, I can prolly barely get data since I’m not gonna go there a lot

But anyways, narrowband.

And guided 5 min subs

[faint plover]

It has helped me so much

Like so so much

[subtle sorrel]

True but I can tell it's not as effective there as it was for me.

[rare copper]

i do wish i got mono but im happy with osc

[faint plover]

I see

[faint plover]

hey hru

Saudi brotha

🔥 🔥 🔥

[subtle sorrel]

I wish I started with mono

A lot of the things that frustrated me with my OSC data simply aren't problems with mono

[rare copper]

yea i wish that aswell so i'd become used to it, atm it seems like a big step up cuz of needing extra equipment and learning how it all works

[deft frost]

that's still like 170 hours equivalent if he imaged for 50 nights

5 hours per night

[faint plover]

Imagine I lived in the b2 place somehow

Even tho it’s in the middle of the desert

Clear skies+b2

Holy crap I would be unstoppable

Lmao

[deft frost]

then you get a windy night

[faint plover]

nah

[deft frost]

sandblasted optics😻

[faint plover]

we don’t get wind much

[faint plover]

I’m already living in the desert lol, just surrounded by buildings

There’s sand that needs to be cleaned up in my balcony every once in a while cuz wind picks it up and brings it

lmao

[deft frost]

the human urge to build a city in the middle of nowhere

[faint plover]

Real

[rare copper]

why do that when it already exists

[faint plover]

wdym

[rare copper]

on the border of saudi arabia to oman/yemen there exists two small small towns

[faint plover]

okay

[subtle sorrel]

one 10 minute sub in Ha

I should see what it looks like with flats applied

[rare copper]

woah

[subtle sorrel]

left is raw, right is calibrated with flats

not a huge difference

still crazy good signal

[inland matrix]

amazing

[plush walrus]

not sure yet..

[faint plover]

Holy moly

Tbh this is about what I would get with a 10 minute sub

[subtle sorrel]

chonky asf signal again

[faint plover]

Holy moly

The sadr region is brighter than I thought

[subtle sorrel]

5 subs

i processed it very slightly

if i had to guess, this may be the equivalent of about 15 or so hours with OSC

I wish i was kidding

OSC cant even rival the sharpness

[faint plover]

HOLY FK????

[inland matrix]

what the fuq

[subtle sorrel]

[inland matrix]

one moment. Selling my 183mc and buying a 533mm with baader 3nm filters

lrgbsho naturally

[faint plover]

W

welcome to the gang

[verbal path]

Damn

Looks fire

[lapis smelt]

New camera?

I feel the need to try

The human urge to do better than you with osc

[faint plover]

Ares m from player one

He got that

🔥 🔥

Been a while actually.

[subtle sorrel]

got it at the beginning of the year

[subtle sorrel]

wait yo @urban ridge im buying a roki, well bought

would you want to do a collab on Rho?

ive gotta actually go out and get data on it from the B3 site ofc but i have no problems doing that

and sorry not sorry @tranquil mountain i just spammed your AB

you have too much good stuff

[urban ridge]

Mosaic would likely be better

U do 2 pannels I do 2 pannels

[subtle sorrel]

FUDGE

idk if that'll work with my super limited time there

[urban ridge]

U can't camp there for a day ?

Ur also mono tho so

[subtle sorrel]

i can

i can even do 2 days

but i get maybe 4 hours a night max on it here

id get an hour per filter per panel if im lucky

[urban ridge]

L North moment

[subtle sorrel]

very

maybe F/2 will save me

[faint plover]

so no redcat collab?

[tranquil mountain]

👌

[subtle sorrel]

depends on if you can make it out to dark skies

no way in hell im contributing broadband data from my backyard 💀

[subtle sorrel]

I locked in the roki, its mines

[faint plover]

i can, cant gurantee it will be more than once tho

but since it will be summer break maybe i can go 2 times idk, it depends on my luck man

[subtle sorrel]

literally got stars that are like 1 pixel in size

no blurX

[subtle sorrel]

@tranquil mountain is my redcat fixed? lol

[urban ridge]

Mono hacks

[subtle sorrel]

it's SOOOOOOO good

i would be in so much pain trying this in OSC

and I was tbh

this wasnt fun and it wasnt going well with OSC

[urban ridge]

Send me 4000 dollaridoos

[subtle sorrel]

you dont want my money

its worthless now

[urban ridge]

4000 aud is like 5 usd

[subtle sorrel]

[urban ridge]

I'm lying

[subtle sorrel]

i know

[urban ridge]

2500usd

Basically half

[subtle sorrel]

yikes

[inland matrix]

Us dollars goes 📉

[faint plover]

This makes me sad I have osc

Like knowing I can never reach this sharpness

Or quality of data

Bruh

but atleast I don’t use a dslr ig

[rich wedge]

yeah when i got my redcat after using the zs61 i was surprised at how many more dim stars i could see

redcat vs zs61

im excited to try my redcat on some nebula with my new 585m too at some point

[faint plover]

@subtle sorrel i thought about it and realized, if we wanna do a proper collab it should be from home because we need a lot of data

what do u think?

cuz its not gonna be efficient only using data from b2, god knows how many times ill be there

[subtle sorrel]

i have a feeling that may be down to integration time

[subtle sorrel]

it would have to be narrowband only then and id be more okay with it once you get guiding and iron out the problems you are having first

[faint plover]

for sure

narrowband definetly

ill also image soon to fix my flats issue

and after that ill tune my backlash

and get guiding

then i should be ready to get proper useful data

but im wondering, will my osc data make any difference to your mono data? even if its like 15 hours+

[subtle sorrel]

OSC data has some channel bleed unforunately

[faint plover]

meaning?

[subtle sorrel]

so some Oiii signal will spill over into the Ha

[faint plover]

ah

[subtle sorrel]

making the Ha appear brighter in regions it isnt supposed to be bright in

[faint plover]

why is oiii an issue tho?

[faint plover]

ohh

[subtle sorrel]

it's not an issue

it's one of the downsides to OSC

it's the thing that made me want mono

[faint plover]

to be fair tho, only u are mono lolz

[faint plover]

ah

broadband is ok ofc but for light polluted places like mine and vels

[subtle sorrel]

btw guys, my redcat is matching or exceeding the resolution in narrowband of 80 mm refractors

sometimes 100 mm refractors in some circumstances

[faint plover]

W

Redcat for the win fr

[urban ridge]

Swapped back to the redcat for eagle and tarantula

[subtle sorrel]

[urban ridge]

[subtle sorrel]

very fricking tasty man

mono + redcat is unbeatable fr

totally raw

so god darn sharp

2x drizzled finally

[faint plover]

Rahhhh W

[faint plover]

Outrageous sharpness, just needs more data now

It’s noisy

[faint plover]

Wait, how did u use the redcat thing on ur rokinon?

Is that possible for any lens?

[subtle sorrel]

obviously lmaoooo

it's not actually as noisy as id expect tbh

[faint plover]

Yh

[subtle sorrel]

and that's simply because with OSC, it would be really bad comparitively

[faint plover]

lol

Yea that’s true for sure

Btw vel, what would we do if we wanted to do a narrowband collab?

I mean broadband would also be good ofc cuz not everyone here is in light polluted skies

[subtle sorrel]

good news is, eccentricity is practically zero

[faint plover]

[subtle sorrel]

id do something in Cygnus or maybe in Cepheus

maybe have tilt

[faint plover]

True

I’m not sure Cepheus is doable from my balcony gimme a sec

Hmm, yeah I think it’s blocked by a building.

Have to make sure tommorow tho when I use sky guide on my phone

What does Cepheus have? I don’t know much about it other than dark nebulae

Ohhh it has elephants trunk

Iirc yes I can do that from my balcony

Hmm, flying bat and squid cool but very dim, but that’s kinda what collabs are for

For Cygnus we have veil, sadr region, and North American nebula

[subtle sorrel]

this is proposterous

[faint plover]

I feel like veil would be perfect tbh, but it’s ur choice since im the newbie here

[subtle sorrel]

and the squid + bat nebula

[faint plover]

What the fuc

[faint plover]

Ye

But rather dim

[subtle sorrel]

o you said that

[faint plover]

Yes I did hehe

What do u think of it?

[subtle sorrel]

WR 134 and Tulip are possibilities

there's some cool stuff above the Sadr region too

like this stuff

[faint plover]

Ooo

[subtle sorrel]

oof

this may not be an option for you

and barely for me

i think that's an hour and a half from OSC + SV220 iirc

on my redcat

this area has so much more depth than I realized at first glance

jfc this is cool

[faint plover]

Flying bat and squid?

[faint plover]

Dang…

[rich wedge]

They were both just a few hours

[faint plover]

I mean, how is this?

Getting the outer ha would be rlly cool

Kind of a dream of mine

[subtle sorrel]

both

[subtle sorrel]

it would be good

but dithering means you will lose fov

and no way you are shooting that and not dithering

[faint plover]

Fark.

Do u have a target suggestion?

[subtle sorrel]

You could still choose east or west veil

My vote personally would be the west Veil because you can get Pickering's Trangle in there nicely

[faint plover]

Was thinking

[faint plover]

Me too

West veil for sure

How do people get this color on the veil?

Like, the Oxygen is blue instead of teal

This is from astrobackyard

[subtle sorrel]

Pix scripts and some thought out color manipulation

[faint plover]

I’m guessing lots of integration is needed?

[faint plover]

Maybe narrowbandnormalization?

I would surely love to get this color tho

I just hope OSC is enough for it

[subtle sorrel]

Yes

Also Trevor/Astrobackyard shoots OSC almost exclusively.

So that image was probably OSC to start.

[subtle sorrel]

This is mine with my DSLR on my redcat

[faint plover]

Oh yeah right

[subtle sorrel]

I opted for a more natural appearance, couldn't get the Trevor Jones colors at the time because of processing skill limitations

[faint plover]

Oh really nice

[faint plover]

Yea Trevor gets really good colors

His images always have that rlly good color

Idk how to explain it, it rlly stands out

Is this dither-able?

[subtle sorrel]

Tearing it down...

This time out was really fun

And unforgettable.

Proved this scope is a lot more than it used to be.

It proved that it's worth keeping.

[subtle sorrel]

Yeah

I'll probably be the one who's most likely to get the faint background Ha

It was barely starting to come out at 17 hours with my DSLR

Don't think my OSC astro cam would have done much better

[faint plover]

Yea… monochrome

[faint plover]

Oh, better than I thought

[faint plover]

With an Astro cam I’m confident it will be much easier

[subtle sorrel]

Easier but idk about much

Veil is a lot more challenging than it lets on.

[faint plover]

I see

So are u implying my data would be kinda useless?

tbf I have the feeling my data would be useless

Even after guiding and narrowband

It just cant even get close to mono I think

[subtle sorrel]

Won't be for general broadband signal

It will be if you want the super faint stuff

OSC in bortle 9 even with great filters just can't do it

It won't stop you from getting good results on bright objects ofc

As long as you can do very long exposures.

Talking 5 to 10 minute subs.

Thats one way to get around the light pollution and bayer matrix problem

[faint plover]

Apparently 5 mins should be doable for sure

With guiding

[faint plover]

yea..

[faint plover]

Yh

Also, do people stack mono data with OSC data or how does it work?

Cuz I don’t see a ha continuum subtraction making sense

[subtle sorrel]

Combine it with pixel math after star alignment etc.

You can weight it that way too

[faint plover]

And would it give the same result as like, stacking the data

Because aren’t u theoretically adding HA that’s already there

[faint plover]

Here’s the poll btw if anyone wants to vote.

[subtle sorrel]

You are still boosting the signal

[faint plover]

ah I see

So same effect as stacking

Welp, okay then. I’m off to bed, thanks

[urban ridge]

Lens collar

I think

[faint plover]

Okay

Thanks

[urban ridge]

The redcat lens ring fits roki perfectly

[faint plover]

Dang, can it be removed from the redcat

Cuz in the summer I may attempt using one of my shit kit lenses for imaging with my Astro cam as a test

Would be cool

Maybe

[urban ridge]

Ya

[faint plover]

Nice thx

Appreciate the help

[urban ridge]

ready for tonight

[faint plover]

Beutiful 🔥 🔥

Can’t wait to see the data

[nimble sky]

needs a bigger mount

[faint plover]

What

[nimble sky]

god im soo good at spellling

[faint plover]

Oh LMAO

[faint plover]

Dead thread

Always looking forward to a post here but nothing

[subtle sorrel]

didnt process this bit yet

[faint plover]

Rahhh

[subtle sorrel]

@tranquil mountain

[faint plover]

Vel, is this with an unmodded dslr?

I wanna know how bad a unmodded is compared to modded for Milky Way

Cuz I’m defo doing MW photography this summer

[subtle sorrel]

no, full spectrum modded

and i couldnt use my clip in uv/ir cut filter with this lens

i think for the next time i got out there, ill have to 3D print an adapter to use my 2" filter to thread onto my lens

[faint plover]

Someone in this server bought something that lets em do that

It’s made for normal photography filters but it fits 2 inch ap filters

[faint plover]

I see

Is a 700D modded from FLO worth it?

[subtle sorrel]

hm

[subtle sorrel]

if it has the flip out screen and it's a newer sensor than the one in my camera id say yes

[faint plover]

hmm I’m not sure

I’m worried about it being overpriced

Cuz I can just get a better dslr and mod it myself for cheaper but I’m worried

[faint plover]

Wait, what if I get a better dslr used for now with a good lens and then mod it myself when I’m confident

Like when I’m confident I can do it and have the tools

I think that’s better in the long term

[subtle sorrel]

[faint plover]

Especially considering the fact that if I get the astromodded I won’t have money for a better lens than the crappy 18/55 kit

[faint plover]

Holy crap.

Can an unmodded even get something like this 😭

[subtle sorrel]

compare the prices used, new, and modded in your area and then make the choice

i cant really give any input on that front since idk what pricing looks like on your end

[subtle sorrel]

yes

[faint plover]

Hmm

[faint plover]

Okay

I definetly won’t add new to the list cuz that’s just expensive ash lol

This is a good deal

A modded 700D is a bit over double the price

[subtle sorrel]

then you have your answer

used it is

[faint plover]

But it’s not modded

Hmmm

How well would it work with narrowband?

[faint plover]

Made by QQQ

Redcat+imx533 SAC when???

[tranquil mountain]

Idk how to change forum logo

[faint plover]

U can’t I think

Yea

[faint plover]

Me get guiding

Yipeee

[subtle sorrel]

not that great id expect

RC8 arrived

[faint plover]

Oof

[faint plover]

YIPEEEE!!!

I thought it’s a carbonstar but still YIPEEEE

Congrats man

[subtle sorrel]

nah I wish it was but they got so expensive so fast that it became too much

M63 told me his friend had one up for sale at a price point i couldnt turn down

i was going to buy a 585 mono instead

the only thing that distinguishes this RC from the carbonstars is that the focuser sucks

otherwise it's a carbon copy (no pun intended)

[faint plover]

Then why didn’t u get it?

[faint plover]

Sad

[subtle sorrel]

I mean his friend had an RC8 up for sale not a carbonstar

[faint plover]

Oh

[subtle sorrel]

I did get it, it's just not a carbonstar by name

It's still a carbon fiber tube

[faint plover]

I see

Yea

[subtle sorrel]

This thing is heavy

[faint plover]

How heavy lol

[subtle sorrel]

I shudder to think of how heavy a steel tube would be

[faint plover]

Oh fark a carbon fiber is way lighter right

I just realized

[subtle sorrel]

It's lighter but I wouldn't say way lighter

[faint plover]

Oh

[subtle sorrel]

Since the majority of the mass comes from the mirrors and the all metal cells.

[faint plover]

Well I’m sure ur am5n can handle it ez still

I have seen a 10 inch RC being ran on it

[subtle sorrel]

It absolutely will

[subtle sorrel]

Me too

[faint plover]

It looks like it’s about to fall lol

[subtle sorrel]

[faint plover]

Why do I have a ghost ping here

[faint plover]

Y

[faint plover]

only I voted

Guess summer is solo then

[faint plover]

From yesterday

Guiding arrived

Was taking my darks In phd2 here

Weird ass color scheme tho lol

But hey, if it works it works.

[subtle sorrel]

now it's getting real

[tranquil mountain]

I uhh

[subtle sorrel]

i havent had a clear night in about a week and a half and the next 2 weeks are forecasted to be cloudy

[faint plover]

Yessir thx 🙏 🙏 🔥 🔥 🔥

[inland matrix]

@subtle sorrel have you already been able to test your rc8?

[subtle sorrel]

Nope

[inland matrix]

:c

[inland matrix]

rip

[subtle sorrel]

[faint plover]

[subtle sorrel]

I did kind of lie, I had the chance to collimate it roughly, and then take a single exposure through the sucker holes in the clouds

The exposure was pretty decent actually and I was VERY impressed with how good the guiding was

0.54" RMS at the celestial equator with God awful seeing, worst of the worst transparency, and high cloud.

[faint plover]

Guys

[inland matrix]

Mhm

[faint plover]

If I went to bortle 2 this weekend what would I image

I’m n25

[inland matrix]

Do a Gaia and image everything

[faint plover]

Huh

[tranquil mountain]

more soon

[subtle sorrel]

[tranquil mountain]

only 4h lRBG

[tranquil mountain]

I bet this will look done by only like 20hs

[lapis smelt]

i say by 16

[subtle sorrel]

[faint plover]

Didn’t u do this before? In chameleon?

[urban ridge]

That's corona australis

Near Sagittarius

[tranquil mountain]

touch up

idk why i did a lil reprocess when im literally getting more data tonight

[faint plover]

Ohhhh

I didn’t know it looks like that up close

I can image it but it’s about 23-25 degrees high, worth it?

From b2 ofc

[hoary quail]

bro doesnt know that cats make u a 25% better astrophotographer and make youre conditonns 20% better

[faint plover]

Car power

[deft frost]

my fatass cat knocked my mount out of polar alignment

[hoary quail]

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-cat-silly-cat-cat-sticking-tongue-out-gif-12332973546502369976

[faint plover]

What if I tell you that was me

Dubaiastro reincarnates into a cat

[inland matrix]

bruh

[inland matrix]

Did you sent a bed to him after clicking on it?
Then you randomly killed yourself and respawned as cat next to his rig and knocked it over. Then You tried (as cat) to convince him to sent the bed back to dubai and then you stepped on the street.... 💀 and respawned in dubai as hopefully a person

smartass cat

[faint plover]

brudda what

[inland matrix]

:D

[faint plover]

:D

:3

[inland matrix]

what ya saying?

[faint plover]

noice

chonky

[inland matrix]

There is so much dust around M63

[faint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/they're-true-you-know-theyre-true-you-know-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-true-gif-14939232310492062624

[inland matrix]

slightly different

[nimble sky]

i kinda liked stars

why does everyone hate them now

[faint plover]

Star