Polls 2.0

[empty atlas]

but i also had trouble doing pa, slewing and other dumb stuff idk that was like the worst session ive ever had

[dusk osprey]

I did have a very scary moment with my mount once

forgot to turn on mount limits, and exactly that night it thought it was a good idea to run into itself and keep doing that for the entire night (I was asleep)

the day after it was clear, I feared for my life it was broken. and idk how but that night I had the best guiding I've ever had

[empty atlas]

mission failed successfully

[dusk osprey]

yea hahahaha

[dusk osprey]

orrr your mount not working for 1 1/2 years so you rage quit and have to buy a new one

maxed out at 20s exposures on a good night

with guiding

[empty atlas]

damn

you know

[dusk osprey]

200mm btw

[empty atlas]

its very likely you didnt do good pa

very very likely

[dusk osprey]

idk dude. kinda hard that my pa was off for 1 1/2 every single session

[empty atlas]

do you do pa via software?

[dusk osprey]

and just magicly when I buy a new mount I can 90s exposures without a single one being ruined

[dusk osprey]

no I tried it once and it made my pa worse

[empty atlas]

manual pa is horrible

[dusk osprey]

I should try 300s for once I think that could work

[dusk osprey]

nah its pretty easy

unless you use a swsa 2

[empty atlas]

that means you are doing ti wrong and you are suposed to run it 2+ times

[dusk osprey]

eh idk. my pa is fine rn

guiding is usually between 0.8 and 1.8 (swsa gti)

[empty atlas]

what bortle are you in

out of curiosity

[foggy sinew]

Seeing is the worst, i average like 5" seeing and that makes solar and planetary literally impossible

[empty atlas]

damnn

[dusk osprey]

eh kinda hard to say. according to lpmap my exact location is 6, but I think its more of a 7. but when I look east I look at the biggest airport in the country and if I look west I look over a city

[empty atlas]

my area is quite weird cuz i dont remember the last time i had bad seeing but i also only had good seeing once

[dusk osprey]

if I look straight up its not that bad tbh

[empty atlas]

i mean the map sorta makes sense

it shows you the sqm at zenith

for where i live the zenith is suprisingly not the darkest

[fallen token]

all my equipment playing whack-a-mole

[valid hearth]

As an owner of an f/3.9 newtonian, its absolutely clouds

[thorny kiln]

Light pollution

[clear lantern]

Wow

[empty atlas]

now you have to do it

[undone glen]

haze/fog

I think that goes into bad seeing?

[grand yarrow]

getting everything to work

[mint mesa]

2 naked eye comets (1 of which I saw only with binoculars) (a3 and 12p), many more photographically. all of this astro, solar eclipse, getting decent visual in. not to mention all the auroras

like jesus not even not doing anything all in november can do much

[patent badger]

Definitely the fact that I was not imagining with my main rig has it's not completed it

[tawny terrace]

10/10 just my equipment in general

[patent badger]

My DSLR is far from being a bad camera but it just wasn't made for astrophotography, my lenses too aren't that good for ap. I still got cool results with them

[weary silo]

Had so many imaging opportunities and only got two galaxy shots, Jupiter, and Moon

[weary silo]

NINA and other softwares not working

[dense arrow]

Dum mount guiding

[valid hearth]

votes for all

[fallen token]

Maybe start trying in irl comps

[thorny kiln]

Fr

[carmine crypt]

Waiting for sky’s to get clear…

[thorn pond]

my tracking😭

[clear lantern]

I could probably squeeze Jupiter somewhere in there

And I would probably do coma cluster for the rest of the night

5th option: add more exposure time to the already existing panels

[empty atlas]

if you select the last answer please type the target below

[dense arrow]

ngc 2403

[empty atlas]

i live at 52 degress latitude

[empty atlas]

ok actually not a bad target

also the target has to be somewhere in this fov

[thorn pond]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[dense arrow]

howd you make it show only galaxies and that bright? dso viewing settings?

[empty atlas]

1 sec

[dense arrow]

thanks

[weary silo]

Just uv/ir cut

[dense arrow]

huh lol

[weary silo]

Oops

[dense arrow]

[weary silo]

Just uv/ir cut, no nb

[empty atlas]

m82 like that is kinda boring tbh

[weary silo]

Are you going to get broadband data along with nb?

[empty atlas]

after the full moon maybe

[weary silo]

Oh ok

[valid hearth]

QHYCCD

[slim valley]

This poll will end after new year.

[solid patrol]

No way I didn't know that thanks so much man 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[valid hearth]

I love all of these, because they carried me through 3 star alignment in my early days

[dusk osprey]

If I only have 1 night I'll image m42 bc that is the brightest. but if lets say hypothetically I have more clear nights to get something like 9+ hours I can do these other things too ig

flaming star is the highest in the sky together with the callifornia neb so that might be nice bc I have an airport in the east

b7 btw

[lunar cliff]

Is this 533 and redcat 51

[empty atlas]

sony cuz they produce sensors for pretty much every astro camera

[empty atlas]

lmao so true

i used vega and hamal the most cause i got my first goto mount in the summer

[dusk osprey]

no a 300mm lens

[lunar cliff]

Aw

[dusk osprey]

what? its a real beasty, trust me

[lunar cliff]

I was looking to recruit more https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1315582651217739836

[dusk osprey]

sorry

[dusk osprey]

why are yall so hyped about the horsehead?

[valid hearth]

its an easy target for first light

its also pretty cool

[dusk osprey]

oke sure

I just expected more ppl to go for flaming star

the only problem for me is that orion is pretty low and over a fckn airport

[dense arrow]

this was already a poll before bruh

[grand yarrow]

he ran out of ideas😭

[valid hearth]

Im sure tp astro is pretty familiar with the term L type brown dwarf

[thorny kiln]

Dang it

[dusk osprey]

you can always buy me one

[slim valley]

This time, it is your favorite type of star.

[dense arrow]

Ah I see

[valid hearth]

you are going to recruit a quattro 250p + imx715 user

[solid patrol]

NGC

[clear lantern]

NGC

[weary silo]

Nigeria Gas Company

[undone glen]

Nicaragua Gas Company

[empty atlas]

gaia

[thorny kiln]

No way

Astrologist

U do astrolofy

[empty atlas]

hello

[empty atlas]

yeah... 100%

[thorny kiln]

Oh wait I thought u tykign

Why same pfp

[empty atlas]

trolling on da hub

cosmic hub

[thorny kiln]

Oh lmao

I’m coming

[dense arrow]

Best catalog is the ARP catalog

[thorny kiln]

LDN>

[empty atlas]

SDSS>>

[dense arrow]

Sdss being a survey...

[empty atlas]

if you didnt know sdss also catalogs objects

random quasar: SDSS J091822.42+194959.8

[dense arrow]

Ah nice

[empty atlas]

wow i digged into the sdss data further and its so rich in information

spectra of that quasar

[slim valley]

Is that gen# a typo?

[slim valley]

They are the same object. Alpha Microscopii .

[patent badger]

There's no way he got us with that

[empty atlas]

ok damn i should have set this to like an hour

im doing it rn

plot twist: the images will all be from a low resolution radio survey

jk

[empty atlas]

this took like an hour actually

same object on the TGSADR survey

[twilit sparrow]

KIC 9832227 is my personal favorite. Not sure if it counts though.

[grizzled nymph]

ARP

[foggy sinew]

Gum

[valid hearth]

I knew it!

[clear lantern]

Sdss is cool

[valid hearth]

sir thats a survey

[clear lantern]

Its a catalog

[valid hearth]

PGC is better anyways

[clear lantern]

No

[solid patrol]

Mid

[empty atlas]

quasars

idk why but i like going through spectroscopic data of random quasars

[valid hearth]

dis guy is clearly insane

[patent badger]

Nah he got his priorities straight

[clear lantern]

If you think that lens is insane, what is bob then

[valid hearth]

a complete monstrosity

[slim valley]

Quasars are red shifted and that is why you can tell them apart from background stars.

[slim valley]

What on earth happened to the minutes?

[clear lantern]

where did he ask something?

[trail oracle]

as the star in my pfp is gamma orionis i am forces to say Rigel

[foggy sinew]

Bro put exceptional for imx715

[valid hearth]

For the price and for its pixel size its exeptionally good

[empty atlas]

lower pixel size doesnt mean better sensor lol

i would say its the opposite

[valid hearth]

Im saying that its performing exeptionally well for such a pixel size

[empty atlas]

ah

[foggy sinew]

lower pixelsize is more noise

[valid hearth]

With enough data no

[foggy sinew]

id assume that with the same exposure time, something with 1.5um pixels will have twice as much noise as something with 3um pixels

[valid hearth]

Bigger pixels less hair you got

[foggy sinew]

what

[paper badger]

uh no

[paper badger]

I still disagree, you can get better for the price

the point of the camera is planetary without a barlow

[patent badger]

Jokes on you I'll put a 5x Barlow with it

[paper badger]

for example 662 will blow it out of the water

again, that's not a sensor I recommend for DSO, it's way too small. but still if you're going that small and you're spending that much, that is a much better value camera

[paper badger]

smaller pixels aren't going to help you get more detail when you're already oversampled

they just hurt your signal at that point

[fallen token]

Literally deletes ha

Technically not sensor but it is still doodoo

[slim valley]

@fallen token why is your camera sensor so bad. Show me example images.

[fallen token]

It just has like wierd noise patterns even with dithering, good guiding, white fuzzy border, random colour

Also no ha as established

[thorny kiln]

no.

[solid patrol]

Dslr moment

[thorny kiln]

[patent badger]

It's more like "cheap dslr moment"

Mine is pretty decent. If I mod it it's gonna be really good but I'm not gonna do that as I have the ares-m already

[fallen token]

Mine is old intermediate

[valid hearth]

brudda cant read

[brittle sleet]

Bro thinks imx715 is 571🙏🙏

[solid patrol]

[brittle sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/529244061500964879/818634975528222761/image0.gif

[thorny kiln]

Almost got me

[thorny kiln]

no.

[trail oracle]

didn't catch me bc I didn't notice it 😎

stupid problems require stupid solutions

[solid patrol]

It really depends what you're after

[past birch]

I really like the thought of the small sharp portable refractor that I don't have to collimate, but the only downside is that its optics are slow

[brittle sleet]

Does it have a reducer

[past birch]

people keep saying 6" f4 newt just because it's fast and they don't think about the weight and maintenance factors

[past birch]

it does but I've heard rumors that the reducer's stars aren't the greatest so I'm a bit scared to get that

[brittle sleet]

My opinion is like yours, newts are awesome but maintenance is boring. I can't imagine myself setting the mount up, doing PA, focusing, framing and then collimating several times a night. Refractors all the way, for me

[past birch]

well you still have to set up, PA, focus, and frame with a frac too

[brittle sleet]

No shit!!

My point is collimating can go wrong, unlike the other steps

[past birch]

the frac reducer makes it go from f6.9 to f5.2. It seems great but there aren't many reviews/opinions about the reducer so I'm not sure about it

[brittle sleet]

Look at images in astrobin

[brittle sleet]

0.75x reducer right?

[past birch]

yeah

[brittle sleet]

Wth literally 10 images with it

[past birch]

I don't have an astrobin account so I can't use image search filters 😕

[brittle sleet]

My neither, look askar 71f reducer astrobin up on google

Stars look fine to me

Your field is gonna be quite big

With the reducer

[past birch]

360 something mm focal length

I'll put the specs into stellarium and look at some targets to see if I like the FOV

[past birch]

man I kinda like the FOV without the reducer

but f7 kinda slow

is f7 in bortle 4 that bad?

[brittle sleet]

You are going to have to sacrifice something. I would sacrifice the narrower fov

Supposing you are finally going for the frac and not the newt

[grand yarrow]

ig the maintenance would be more but it's barely anything on my 6" f/5

[brittle sleet]

I'm always reading people in here complaining about collimating multiple times a night

[past birch]

if you want good images you should ideally be collimating or at least checking collimation every night

[grand yarrow]

multiple times a night is crazy

that sounds like an issue with the scope not the fact it's a f/4

[grand yarrow]

ik, i check collimation and my newt just doesn't go out

it holds pretty well

[past birch]

iirc the faster the scope the harder it is to collimate (I could be wrong)

[grand yarrow]

it is yeah but i don't think the difference between an f/5 and f/4 should be multiple times a night vs pretty rare

it took a few months for my primary to lose collimation and 4 seconds to fix it

[past birch]

some scopes hold collimation better than others

[grand yarrow]

well then the Quattro isn't a good scope

maybe gso is better?

[past birch]

the quattro is a good scope

[past birch]

I'm pretty sure it's the same optics just different brand

[grand yarrow]

if it needs collimation multiple times a night then it sucks at holding collimation

[grand yarrow]

i mean for maintenance

if it holds those optics in place better than its a better scope, the best scope is the one you want to use

[thorny kiln]

Zenithstar 71

[past birch]

does it require a flattener?

[thorny kiln]

Yes

But with flattener it’s the same price range

I think nexy uses it

Ye

[past birch]

the scope is discontinued

[thorny kiln]

Oof

[valid hearth]

we infact do think about these, and the newtonian is better at everything but the size and weight

and you aint no weakling

[past birch]

[grand yarrow]

the Quattro weighs like 6kg

if you can take your mount outside you can easily take the scope outside

and id be very concerned if you cant take your mount outside

[past birch]

it does get kinda annoying carrying my 40lb mount up a hill and a couple hundred feet out my lane

[grand yarrow]

a 12lb or whatever the Quattro weighs is much easier

just do 2 trips

[past birch]

Does the "not color calibrate" option still allow you to manually adjust colors?

[thorn pond]

no

[past birch]

even then, bg extraction is vital to bringing out details. Easily not color calibrate.

[thorn pond]

so, would you rather keep the totally green image? like, exactly how it comes out of the stack?

[past birch]

for me, bg extraction usually takes care of the green for some reason

some of it at least

[thorn pond]

I pick not color calibrate just bc my DSLR is quite calibrated on its own

[grand yarrow]

yes bc the alternative is pretty much no image

[carmine crypt]

unlinked stretch

[thorn pond]

IT'S FORBIDDEN

[carmine crypt]

why?

if you cant stretch the chanels seperatly, what is allowed?

[grizzled nymph]

Why the heck does 455 only have one vote

[foggy sinew]

571 best bang for buck

Or maybe 533

[valid hearth]

Thank you for leaving a special place for me

https://tenor.com/view/donut-glaze-satisfying-gif-13180530

[grand yarrow]

as an imx585 user i would absolutely take a bigger sensor

[brittle sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/gleemies-gleemboss-gif-23542767

[trail oracle]

like
3 months
lol

[solid patrol]

A funny friend.

[mint mesa]

weird I was expecting "mildly positive opinion" at best from you

lol

[solid patrol]

Lmao nahhh

[grand yarrow]

i mean I've seen and spoken to you every once in a while but i still don't really know u

[mint mesa]

this is a dumb poll lol

[mint mesa]

yeah

[foggy sinew]

enemy

[solid patrol]

Still got time to delete it

[mint mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-4429745997606774790

[mint mesa]

nah lol

[eager swallow]

O man, that’s tough! I haven’t been able to image seriously for about 6 weeks now… 😅 Thought we had it rough in the Netherlands right now…

[eager swallow]

Yeah, I thought there might be more options. But while making this poll, I thought more than a month is probably enough to cover that part. But apparently 1 month is quite “normal”, even though there are quite a few people with “4 weeks at most”. So still interesting to see.

[foggy sinew]

What if I just buy one killer scope and still have money

[twilit sparrow]

I have made the decision, as of now that is not an option.

[eager swallow]

Hm, okay… should have added more options. 😅

Or rent… or go to local astronomy club…

[clear lantern]

An enemy to mankind

Nah jk

[dense arrow]

Friend

[grand yarrow]

how much is very poor

[thorny kiln]

When someone tells u they want you dead two times, even as a joke, enemy can be an option.

But bob sometimes nice

So mildly negative

[empty atlas]

lol

[mint mesa]

to be fait you stole my bit

twice

[mint mesa]

bobjone is universally hated 100% real

I have 5 enemies and with your help I can bring that number to 18

[mint mesa]

should probably be nicer tho ❤️

(by probably I mean yes)

[thorny kiln]

ok

[mint mesa]

now im wondering what the average for other people are lol

[thorny kiln]

Shall I make a poll

[mint mesa]

sure ig

[thorny kiln]

I hope we don’t start a trend of people doing this poll and we get this closed too

[undone glen]

dw i gotchu

[thorny kiln]

Don’t. Pls.

[thorny kiln]

Dude I’m serious please don’t

Frick why did I even say it

[undone glen]

ok ok just this once

[thorny kiln]

No seriousiouly don’t this is a great thread

Whoever does this I consider an enemy

[past birch]

ight bet

[empty atlas]

ok ok

[thorny kiln]

Bro pleas pleas

[empty atlas]

this is the last one k?

[thorny kiln]

I got a fresh cut and came back to see this

[empty atlas]

mr mods please dont get mad at us

[thorny kiln]

Yes yes good

[thorny kiln]

Froggg whyyyy

I want to say something but I can’t

[brittle sleet]

im just voting enemy

[empty atlas]

e

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