Hi,
I got a Nikon 300mm F2.8 DII lens, and search for a suitable camera now (I just don't want to stress or modify my daytime Z50 too much).
I'm in a B5/6, and already got a working goto compatible mount (so the technical side shouldn't be the problem for me).
I don't want to spend more than about 800€.
So I'm currently considering a Z6 V1, which I could get used for 600€ with a half year of guarantee left.
Would you guys approve this choice or is an astrocam for a similar price under these circumstances better (if so, could you recommend any)?
Thanks in advance
#DSLR or Astro cam for 600€ better?
agile panther
agile panther
PS: I don't really care about the FOV, I just care about good images 😁
sinful nimbus
PS: I don't really care about the FOV, I just care about good images 😁
If u want it for only astrophotography get an Astro cam if u wanna do normal photography too get a dslr or mirrorless
agile panther
If u want it for only astrophotography get an Astro cam if u wanna do normal pho...
Hm, that's an easy answer. Are you sure if the sensitivity of an astro cam so much better, that it can win against against a fullframe DSLR? That's currently what I'm not able to figure out
sinful nimbus
Hm, that's an easy answer. Are you sure if the sensitivity of an astro cam so mu...
I haven’t used one before but ik it’s a lot better than my dslr but mines 13 years old and it’s def better than any dslr or mirrorless camera especially under 600
cobalt cosmos
An astrocam is (unsurprisingly) significantly better for ap compared to a dslr. It is honestly night and day. If astrophotography is your main concern, I would try to find a used 533mc pro which should fall within your budget
I would probably say that that would beat the ff camera... unless you intend to modify it for astronomy. In that case it is a little bit less clear cut, but the active cooling and extra sensitivity is probably worth it though it depends massively on your own preferences
ripe jolt
If we're talking advantages and you want to pursue deep space imaging, a cooled astro cam is the path to go.
Unless your doing a lot of terrestrial photography and want an upgrade for both.
It's up to you whether you want to get the most performance for astro or compromise by having a cam that is multipurpose.
agile panther
Okay, thanks for your opinions. Anyhow it's just difficult to believe for me, that more efficiency can be so much better compared to bigger pixels... I probably redecided 10x today XD But since you are all so convinced, I think I'll be better off with a astro cam.
cobalt cosmos
Big vs small pixels is not necessarily better or worse, just different
agile panther
The 533 seems good, I'll check, if I can get smt like that...
agile panther
Big vs small pixels is not necessarily better or worse, just different
Yeah, but I'd have expected it to be way better to have as much area as possible
cobalt cosmos
It's an excellent cam... I've used one for a while and have had nothing but a good experience
cobalt cosmos
Yeah, but I'd have expected it to be way better to have as much area as possible
Smaller pixels give you better angular resolution; ie more small details
I should add that big vs small pixels is different from big vs small sensor
agile panther
True
ripe jolt
Bigger pixels in theory allow higher chances of a photon activating the photo site, but there are so many more factors that need to be considered which contribute to image quality and efficiency.
agile panther
It's an excellent cam... I've used one for a while and have had nothing but a go...
Do you know if other brands are also an option?
(except for ASI)
They're significantly cheaper...
cobalt cosmos
If you're buying used, most listings will be zwo
cobalt cosmos
But yeah, the above (along with qhy) are also great if you can find them
ripe jolt
QHY being on the top end of prices (?) iirc.
cobalt cosmos
Mhm yep. I've seen plenty of good deals on qhy 533 cameras though
agile panther
Okay, thanks a lot 👍
ripe jolt
Yea used is really the way to go considering your 600 USD budget
agile panther
Yea used is really the way to go considering your 600 USD budget
Yeah, it's a flexible budget, but I just don't want to spend too much... So I might even consider buying new, if I can eliminate damage as a error source
cobalt cosmos
Ngl buying cams used is always the way to go imo
You just save so much for an equal product
ripe jolt
Astrobin marketplace was released recently
I've seen some decent deals there as well as cloudy nights classifieds.
agile panther
Ngl buying cams used is always the way to go imo
Okay, if it's uncritical...
cobalt cosmos
Mhm, just make sure you have images of the cam itself, example pictures, and payment protection in case something does go wrong
But it very very rarely does
agile panther
I got a question - again. I'm currently looking, if I got options for filters in the future, since I'm in a B5/6 that would seem to make sense for me. I'd definetly need a highspeed filter... Do you think dualnarrowband makes sense?
I'm currently checking, if the step to mono would be smart (I found an LRGB SHO filter set for 600€ quite close to me)... Since I usually don't have a lot of time, I have my doubts
ripe jolt
Antlia alp-t highspeed is good
ripe jolt
I'm currently checking, if the step to mono would be smart (I found an LRGB SHO ...
Mono 533 used is around 800 unfortunately
I immediately went to mono after using DSLR but I was able to snag a ASI 1600mm pro for 750 + LRGBSHO and EFW for like 400 total.
The 1600 is likely the cheapest way to get into mono.
But honestly, id put that money into a solid APO refractor (hopefully a triplet) and just go with OSC and duoband.
A solid triplet will be more beneficial in the long run than having to stick with a lens while learning mono.
agile panther
Okay, thanks for your thought 👍 I want to stay with my lens for a while anyways... So Ig staying with OSC is better then
I mean I can easily buy a dualband filter afterwards...
In general is my aim more to get relatively quick good results, that's also why I got the lens
ripe jolt
Yea the speed of that lens will help for sure