Polls

[rotund prawn]

SKIBDI

[pallid garden]

Then go to the bathroom

[rotund prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230216213901082744/1275746185499639819/image0.gif

[pallid garden]

The word S K I B I D I is banned lol

[rotund prawn]

i know thats why i didnt type it properly

[pallid garden]

That's what I was trying to correct!

[rotund prawn]

anyways back to this i dont understand why they changed the channels to like these forums

[pallid garden]

Ikr?

[pallid garden]

For solar system pics it might be bc zegery wanted to put up that safety thing

[rotund prawn]

ok well that kind of makes sense but with dso it doesnt really

there was nothing wrong with the original channel and they didnt add anything special to the forums

[pallid garden]

Yeah I agree, a lil weird

Should we ask someone?

[rotund prawn]

nah

its been like a year since it got archived

[mystic rampart]

framing on these two (won't show the two I suspect of being undiscovered until i image them :p)

also ik DSS2 but it no worke today so image banners is what I gotta deal with

[lucid vessel]

do the east veil, i will take care of the discovered nebula

[full gulch]

An object that isn't named is somewhat common, but new discoveries are rare

[mystic rampart]

checked SIMBAD, very clearly nothing marked in there 🤷‍♂️
one I researched quite thoroughly already, it looks like it should have gotten picked up by the Planck's Catalog of Galactic Cold Clumps but for some reason didn't (it seems a bit brighter than other nearby (detected) clumps so maybe that's why)

the other is a red-ish one that happens to be under a DSS2 glitch, but it's also there on other surveys that don't have a glitch there, still have to dig a bit deeper about this one to confirm it's not known but it doesn't show up on SIMBAD either

still have to familiarise myself with VIZIER for checking both of those, and I wanna also get the astrobin subscription to check if anyone has photographed those coords

[royal yarrow]

You can capture the veil nebula with an unmoded dslr ?

[twin osprey]

Yes

Filter is nice tho

[royal yarrow]

Didnt know that

[royal yarrow]

Thanks for the information

[mystic rampart]

this was ~3.5h on my 1200/150 scope

the processing is very rough though

[north fractal]

that looks like something you'd see on an autostretch preview

[twin osprey]

How did you find it?

[mystic rampart]

scrolling around the sky in Stellarium with PANSTARRS survey lol

[twin osprey]

Nice

Have you watched seen this: https://youtu.be/qaKXTnounrU?si=D0WJaxnCveiBf8xC

It gives some detailes of how to research a new nebula

[mystic rampart]

I have! that's roughly what I based my research into if it's known or not on

[twin osprey]

That’s good

Im curious now, you have any plans to image it soon?

[mystic rampart]

the big difference is that he's working with a reflection nebula with a bright star in the middle, where as the two I found don't have a central star within them so the step with searching the various names of a star and adding nebula on google gets kinda messy.. on the darker one I did search for the closest two or three nearest brightish stars though but didn't find anyone imaging any nebulae close to them

[west sonnet]

get shooting it asap

[mystic rampart]

as soon as the weather improves, + maybe 1 other imaging session on something more predictable before those so that I can get to know the new telescope a bit before trying to image something new

[west sonnet]

if ur using pc theres a way to use planetarium to slew

[mystic rampart]

every time I try that on my laptop stellarium just crashes the moment I alt tab out of it and then back into it lmao

[twin osprey]

Do you have a idea of how bright it is?

[twin osprey]

Try Nina

[mystic rampart]

but I have the coordinates for them so I can just input that into APT then verify with plate solving (or NINA but learning that is on my todo list lol)

[west sonnet]

yep

[twin osprey]

I got clear sky’s in two hours, so if you’d like I can take a look for you

[mystic rampart]

don't know how to estimate brightness yet, something I gotta learn

[mystic rampart]

eh, no need to rush, one's high in the sky right now and the other doesn't even actually set

[twin osprey]

Alright, are you in northern hemisphere?

[mystic rampart]

yep

[twin osprey]

Nice, if you change your mind I got you :)

[mystic rampart]

tbh I'm not sure how well my DSLR will fair on them, so if the internal filters ruin my attempts I'll reach out 👍

[twin osprey]

What gear do you have?

[mystic rampart]

SW 150/750, EQ-5 with OnStep, Canon 1300D

[potent eagle]

great polls today!

lol

[tropic pendant]

beaver

[rotund prawn]

dont mention EHT because i mean everyone knows its the best

[primal kite]

all of the above

[rotund prawn]

go ahead select them

its multiple answ=er

orrrr another answer would be "AstroLens's 6 inch scope 😼 "

[primal kite]

[rotund prawn]

i would say all except hubble and jwst

they are overrated imo

dont get me wrong they still take amazing pics but just overrated

im so excited for the ELT which is gonna be built possibly in 2028

[lucid vessel]

my 10 inch

[primal kite]

10 inch what

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[lucid vessel]

I will leave that up to you

[twin osprey]

Bat ofcourse

[bitter spade]

😋

[lucid vessel]

Hi my shiny crystal

You Shine bright like a diamond

[delicate pier]

I didn’t see this and I was about to say it.

[bitter spade]

Shine bright like a dumbbell

[bitter spade]

Bto

[potent eagle]

ok but what if instead of eyepieces it was the rokinon 135mm

(narrow end, needs a flared base to not get stuck)

[lucid vessel]

where is that msg

[lucid vessel]

completely forgot that i installed a UHC filter, i need a nebula target

so dumbbell...

[west sonnet]

ngc90 is so cool

[rotund prawn]

lol what the

"eyepieces inserted" wym by that 🤨

[latent vapor]

Ask tyking 😭

[rotund prawn]

ik im asking him

[lucid vessel]

yeap, but its right above the moon. so not worth it

[west sonnet]

oh true yea

[lucid vessel]

mag 14.5 galaxy + moon = no galaxy and horrible sky glow

terrible gradients too

[mystic rampart]

just blow up the moon smh

[rotund prawn]

yeah exactly

easy 🙂

[rotund prawn]

planet

[lucid vessel]

dont rlly feel like doing planetary, i retired from that a while ago

[rotund prawn]

planetary nebula

what about you image m57

you have some really decent res so you could try that

[lucid vessel]

already did m57, pretty hard to not blow out the nebula

[rotund prawn]

gimme the data and ill make it gud

[lucid vessel]

sure, lemme find it rq

[rotund prawn]

dis with my 6 incher

ayo that sounds wrong

[rotund prawn]

imo jwst doesnt even stand a chance with the vlt

https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso2008a/

[lucid vessel]

@rotund prawn

have fun

[rotund prawn]

ty

https://www.eso.org/public/images/eso1726a/

[mystic rampart]

jupiter looking ahh 💀

[lucid vessel]

glory hole

[pallid garden]

Why Antares?

So far away why not p centauri?

[rotund prawn]

simple explanation: antares's angular size is 0.041 arcseconds while alpha centauris is 0.0085

maybe also think about the size of these stars rather than just the distance

[lucid vessel]

Gawd dayum

this is awesome

[rotund prawn]

thank you

[plucky isle]

Are they any good

[lucid vessel]

idk, im about to find out

[plucky isle]

Alr

Which uhc u got?

Svbony? @lucid vessel

[lucid vessel]

the one that came with my dwarf 2

[plucky isle]

Oh nice

My dad has one of those

[lucid vessel]

nice

[potent mango]

me

also do not vote its a traap

[grave totem]

hrrg

bourbons, any chocolate anything

"really bright comet" lol

[plucky isle]

There nice with like tea or smth imo there dry

Custard creams work with everything

[rotund prawn]

also joined a flat earth server with astrosteff

[potent mango]

ummm pluh

[plucky isle]

Why are people saying circle 😭

That means its flat 😭

[potent mango]

circles are lines, spheres are circles, another word for sphere is sphere

[latent vapor]

I got muted for 108 years 💀

[rotund prawn]

what da heil

[mystic rampart]

🥚

the core is the yolk

[plucky isle]

💀😂😂

[grave totem]

😭
i want to correct him so bad

[rotund prawn]

search up flat earth in the server discovery

there you can find him

[potent mango]

my braincell hurts

time to stop talking to dingleberries

[north fractal]

bro left pentax and fujifilm out

[wind fiber]

I have never seen astrophotography taken with them

[primal kite]

Allyn Wallace

[north fractal]

ive used a pentax for 3+ years

[latent vapor]

poor man died 😔

[river hazel]

Earth is the same size a the universe

[bitter spade]

Earth is a skibidonut

[versed sundial]

Afaik nikon best for astro?

[river hazel]

I see you're an enjoyer of Rach 4.....

[royal yarrow]

What I read too, the stock filters let more ha pass

[grave totem]

my others is Y (subsub brown dwraf)

[wind fiber]

Wr

[lucid vessel]

i like em cold and brown

[grave totem]

WR is same as W (aaa)

[jovial quest]

M cause there is a lot

[wind fiber]

M40

[dense talon]

💀

[halcyon kettle]

While you're at it also do M73

[potent mango]

i need a lore drop to choose one

[dense talon]

theory theory

[fallow scroll]

• Dark Forest Theory

• No aliens have reached out to us, since the universe is like a dark forest; Everyone is on their own.

• You don't know the intentions of the other people there, if there are any. (or rather, you don't know the intentions of other lifeforms.

• "Be silent, the others might hear you."

• Incubation Theory

• Extraordinary Intelligent Life let less advanced lifeforms evolve until they are ready for a higher sort of communication and evolving.

• Zoo Theory

• No aliens reached out, because we are just "animals" in a zoo. An attraction, meant to not be disturbed.

• Early Bird Theory

• We are the first intelligent lifeform to exist in the universe.

• Different Kind of Life

• Life as we know it doesn't exist elsewhere.

• Great Silence Theory

• Other life goes extinct before advaced spacetravel can ever be achieved.

• Self-Destruction Theory

• Similar to how humans destroy themselves with war, or rather, can destroy themselves with war, all aliens that can colonize self-destruct due to war and advanced weaponry before any other lifeform (such as ourselves) can be reached.

• The Great Filter Theory

• From a scale, all other life forms go extinct before being able to reach an intelligent state (like how humans are the only species on earth thats "intelligent"), making extraterresital life EXTREMELY rare

@potent mango ^

[potent mango]

dark forest or early bird

early bird would make a sick scifi book if done right

[fallow scroll]

fr

[potent mango]

like imagine being so far ahead of your time that you are the only being(s) in existence, that the universe was made to be colonised and shi but you were born too early

like that spaceship movie where the guy wakes up 80 years early

[fallow scroll]

fr if its made interesting

[fallow scroll]

the zoo theory would do a cool one too though

imagine like if

humanity finds out

that they are just an attraction to aliens

and then revolt

[halcyon kettle]

kinda reminds me of planet of the apes

[halcyon kettle]

First started being interested when I finally figured out how my telescope worked back in November last year

[wind fiber]

I've been into astrophotography since October last year

[rotund prawn]

i havent been doing astrophotography for 3 - 5 years but ive been interested in astronomy for that mcuh time

[royal yarrow]

Properly started astrophotography this summer

[bitter spade]

fr

[dense talon]

Yeah that’s what I shot yesterday

It was supposed to end sooner lol

[halcyon kettle]

nuuuu u shoul'dv done M40 and M73 😭 😭 😭

[dense talon]

I regret I didn’t😭😭😭

[halcyon kettle]

so sad 😔 😔

[primal kite]

kinda sad im getting to the stage of doing astro for 2 years and having not upgraded my setup

been untracked since day one

[lucid vessel]

get tracked

[primal kite]

🐷

[lucid vessel]

womp womp

get tracked

[potent eagle]

the moment sword goes tracked he will immediately get a better image than i could ever hope to get

[primal kite]

gonna go crazy

only thing holding me back is stock dslr

but yea ive got multi night projects i want to do

[plucky isle]

Is it able to become tracked

@wind fiber

[primal kite]

onstep the eq3-2

[wind fiber]

Yes

[plucky isle]

Option 2 then

100%

Then get onstep like sword said

[primal kite]

SCT on an AZ is pretty stupid, youre enhancing the field rotation artifacts

also its quite stupi to buy such a high focal length system yet run it alt az

[wind fiber]

Planet/Moon photography?

[primal kite]

oh is that what youre doing

[lucid vessel]

Onstep eq 3-2 with 130-650pds

[wind fiber]

I still prefer deep sky, but I'm going to 9 bortle soon and won't be able to shoot it

[primal kite]

you need to flip a coint what you really want to do

[wind fiber]

Too expensive for me, I only have ~550$

[lucid vessel]

Then. Onstep eq3-2 with the 150p ( its on sale in astroshop.eu)

[wind fiber]

Used 650pds is 400$

[primal kite]

you sir need more money

[wind fiber]

I know

[primal kite]

bortle 9 = expensive

[lucid vessel]

No? https://www.astroshop.eu/telescopes/skywatcher-telescope-n-130-650-explorer-130pds-ota/p,25455

[wind fiber]

I’m in Russia, here everything is about 2 times more expensive

[lucid vessel]

Ah, makes sense

[primal kite]

insert political statement here

[lucid vessel]

Sword dont even try

[primal kite]

[royal yarrow]

700€ approx

Hard doing astro with these prices

[lucid vessel]

Gawd dayum, 784 bucks for a 5in is outrageous

[royal yarrow]

I gotta say i respect your dedication cassini

[wind fiber]

This is an already used telescope

[lucid vessel]

Good price

[lucid vessel]

#1055332251791011891 message

[lucid vessel]

@eternal hemlock @primal kite

[primal kite]

No lol

[primal kite]

SO i want to submit 1 of these to an astrophotography compeitition, which one?

[delicate pier]

In #1 you can tell that the sky was changed.

[primal kite]

ok

[pallid garden]

Plz give data

I just want to have s go at it

[pallid garden]

Already stavked please

[west sonnet]

why is 2 even an option

really nice images btw

[primal kite]

gimme a bit, will try to find it

need to get it off my hdd

[pallid garden]

I agree

[primal kite]

meant to be more natural since its a 15s sub

[primal kite]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16oOgJhxQwSbd1bWrUI8yRwEJVNszuxxT/view?usp=sharing
astrometric i think is stored? note this is a XISF so open it in graxpert and save as 32bit fit for processing in siril

[potent mango]

[primal kite]

needing more votes to get best image

[potent eagle]

all 1 voters are wrong and dumb and stupid and dumb and wrong ❤️

[primal kite]

its for an astrophotography comp btw, not whats the better image bc i know what that is

[wind fiber]

Ok, 150/750eq3-2 and later I buy onstep

[primal kite]

if you get what i mean

[river hazel]

downloading now

[river hazel]

M42. If you can zoom in and get it justice there's nothing in even remotely compared with Orion core

[pallid garden]

You don't understand

[river hazel]

I don't understand what?

[pallid garden]

M40 is literally a double star

M73 is a cluster with 5 stars in it

[river hazel]

Yeah and the Orion has a solar system in the making and bunch of star forming region all within the core

[pallid garden]

Yeah

It was a joke

And a good one!

[twin osprey]

Agreed

[primal kite]

carina my beloved

[mystic rampart]

dawg you CANNOT remove pillars of creation

[potent eagle]

you can actually, easily

[primal kite]

watch me

[primal kite]

the people have spoken

this is the winner

[potent eagle]

pgc, hip, ucac

[primal kite]

From these images, which are the most "award-worthy"?

[potent mango]

i will sue all 15 of the carina kids

[potent mango]

image 1 nice but foreground looks misplaced

[sleek inlet]

U will need to sue the whole northern hemisphere

[potent mango]

they kinda depressing

[primal kite]

how can i improve it

[potent mango]

not sure tbh, maybe add a soft feather to foreground into sky

[mystic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/schlatt-jschlatt-swag-not-swag-gif-19358706

[rotund prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/gentleman-giga-chad-sigma-male-gif-25702945

who uses dss2 these days

[potent eagle]

me because the normal dss that stellarium has wasn't loading

[rotund prawn]

PGC 14316 (ginore this)

i have something for you that will fix all fo your issues

[potent eagle]

and dss 2 is good enough

[rotund prawn]

http://cdsportal.u-strasbg.fr/?target=M63

[potent eagle]

neat

[rotund prawn]

so much easier than stellarium

pgc

in slightly more detail

[potent eagle]

wait how did you even know what survey it was

[rotund prawn]

HIP 48363

[rotund prawn]

because im a nerd 🤓

[potent eagle]

neeerrrrrddddd

[rotund prawn]

i memorized how different surveys look

[potent eagle]

lol

[rotund prawn]

easiest way to tell: stars, colors

[rotund prawn]

desi legacy surveys

it has a lot of background galaxies and these suspicious star spikes

dss doesnt have any background galaxies, normal spikes and not a lot of detail

sdss has a lot of detail and has unique colors

[potent eagle]

dss is nice for me because im not getting any of that detail anyways lol

[rotund prawn]

panstarss has this weird tiling thing, unique colors and a lot of detail

[rotund prawn]

lol true but its just cool to see these details

on surveys

[potent eagle]

partial to mellinger or whatever its called for having good colors

[rotund prawn]

bludd i even know which surveys look like my subs just with less noise and which show how much detail i can theoretically get

[rotund prawn]

oh yeah thats widefield

tf did i type there xD

https://tenor.com/view/joueur-du-grenier-seb-du-grenier-grenier-joueur-milk-gif-15232582

[potent eagle]

amazing

[rotund prawn]

best radio image ever

[potent eagle]

its like me with comets but surveys

[bitter spade]

this is the coolest rhong

[vapid spruce]

i think u should do a blend of both skies so it looks natural, one with the gradient and one without

[river hazel]

With this much rumbling with gifs and images is we're again in the countdown @potent eagle

[mystic rampart]

Aladin my beloveddd

[wind fiber]

[lucid vessel]

M109

[wind fiber]

M0

[sleek inlet]

M16

[sleek inlet]

BREAKING: Carina Nebula to be removed in Earth update 2024.8.29

[lucid vessel]

nice

im a northerner so no diff

[bitter spade]

My

[rotund prawn]

m104

[delicate pier]

M64

[latent vapor]

M69 🤓

[halcyon kettle]

first time I've seen someone who's favorite object is a globular cluster

[wind fiber]

m102

[primal kite]

hey globs are cool

[mystic rampart]

nah they boring af

[lucid vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mod-discord-kick-mute-gif-495505587681287181

[mystic rampart]

I imaged one once 6 years ago for 15m and have had no desire to image one again since then tbh

[rotund prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapper-yapping-man-old-guy-yapping-keep-yapping-gif-16586719177455162521

[bitter spade]

B9 astroers would say otherwise

[mystic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/terror-dog-flip-unimaginable-perro-gif-24150485

[mystic rampart]

just turn off the lights smh my head, it's that easy

[delicate pier]

I don’t like open clusters, but globular clusters are cool especially for visual.

[sleek inlet]

83% of the messier catalogue would be gone

[royal yarrow]

Some of the coolest dso you can see are globular clusters you crazy son of a human being

[latent vapor]

bright nebulae are more impressive

[royal yarrow]

Didnt say they were top 1

Just high tier dso

Cause you know... there are open clusters out there

[halcyon kettle]

am I seriously the only person who actually likes open clusters 💀

[potent eagle]

yes

[royal yarrow]

Yes

[primal kite]

Pleiades is the best

Apart from that uhhhhh

[royal yarrow]

Only exception

[primal kite]

Idk

[potent eagle]

the beehive and double cluster are also preddy neat

and thats it

[mystic rampart]

hot take: open clusters are better than globs
once you've seen one glob you've pretty much seen them all, opens at least are somewhat original and actually make for some neat sky filler (such as in Perseus)

[mystic rampart]

really need an option that's better than meh and not quite a cool though

[lucid vessel]

this take is colder than liquid helium itself

[halcyon kettle]

Open clusters made a big part of why Im into astro and stuff. Back when I just began using my telescope they were the first DSOs I ever saw. During those days I've seen a shit ton of them cause they comprised of like 90% of all DSO's I observed (it was winter so I didn't see any globs)
I particularly like M45, M7, M6, C14, C10, C13, M46, M41, M44, M35, and M36

[pallid garden]

The best hot take ever

[river hazel]

Rip @rotund prawn

[rotund prawn]

i learned you shouldnt image these targets the hard way

[river hazel]

I have a friend which he avoids zenith like the plague

[rotund prawn]

i wasted like a couple hours imaging m101 just to find out when it was near the zenith it changed focus

[river hazel]

Can't relate I'm near the horizon

[rotund prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/question-mark-gif-12946793

wdym you are near the horizno

[river hazel]

I've managed to image NGC 6250 in 5* above horizon

[rotund prawn]

☠️

[river hazel]

It was fun becasue by the time i figured where the target was it already started setting this is why I loath the horizon

[royal yarrow]

Untue

[wind fiber]

I like Tchaikovsky

[river hazel]

But mate Rachmaninoff is way better at piano concertos

[eternal hemlock]

wham tree blocking lagoon no thank u

[full gulch]

Poor example

[potent mango]

something like this better?

[eternal hemlock]

way better

[full gulch]

In this case I'd say no foreground

[potent mango]

But it takes attention away from bad walking noise and dust spots

[full gulch]

I'd get a better foreground

Random tree to the side isn't very interesting

[nocturne coral]

I got bored

[potent mango]

lol

[grave totem]

M111

[primal kite]

i have my brightness kinda low and i didnt see the tree until i actually went looking for i t

[potent mango]

lol

[primal kite]

P.

[sleek inlet]

Tomatoes are goated.

[mystic rampart]

tbh i voted oumpkin just because of the misspell lol

[lucid vessel]

peas are goated

[halcyon kettle]

who tf is bob dylan

[lucid vessel]

srsly

[bitter spade]

The painter guy sings?

[grave totem]

wht is miami heat

[tropic pendant]

Basketball team

[gleaming totem]

While M45 is nice, with good processing M42 can be even better.

[west sonnet]

courgette

[potent mango]

corvette

[bitter spade]

C8 reference?? (my telescope)

[jovial quest]

More than 15cm is big for me

[rotund prawn]

its above average :)

[potent mango]

ginormous

[serene slate]

Love how Celestron doesn't have a single vote right now.

[lucid vessel]

Man even tykingcrystal voted for skywatcher 😭

[plucky isle]

Im between skywatcher and william optics from what ive seen

[royal yarrow]

Takahashi

[lucid vessel]

protostar

[graceful arch]

Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp

They made the jwst mirrors 👍

[west sonnet]

there’s not really a ‘best’ brand they all do different things have have a range of options

[wind fiber]

Synta, it's skywatcher but cheaper

[serene slate]

If you have money and don't want it.

[pallid garden]

Astrophysics

[river hazel]

hey @gleaming totem what's this?😏

[wind fiber]

💥

[gleaming totem]

A face

seducing me

[river hazel]

Hmmmmm

🧐

[dense talon]

Diy scopes

[pallid garden]

Go on the bottom!

[potent eagle]

we need more bottoms!

[lucid vessel]

guys dont vote anymore

[pallid garden]

ONE MORE BOTTOM

[pallid garden]

GOOD

Now leave it alone

[north fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-cat-xdd-twitch-xdd-twitch-xdd-emote-gif-26219559

[potent eagle]

IVE REMOVED MY VOTE

IM NO LONGER BOTTOMING

[bitter spade]

Nooo you should bottom

[potent eagle]

:3

[bitter spade]

[latent vapor]

One top

[river hazel]

Forgot to react to this

[plucky isle]

Its 50/50 now

[potent eagle]

BOTTOMS, ASSEMBLE

its no use, people love topping too much

[graceful arch]

Kissner Optik

[versed sundial]

We need 2 bottoms

[gleaming totem]

Just switched my vote from top to bottom

[potent eagle]

its still even

[gleaming totem]

It was previously not (before my switch)

I guess I like being at the bottom, enjoying the time of my life

*enjoying my life

Bruh what tf did I just say 💀

[halcyon kettle]

You like being at the bottom, enjoying the time of your life

*enjoying your life

[gleaming totem]

Newtonians don’t have this problem (Newtonian big W)
edit: maybe not

[rotund prawn]

i have a newtonian..

[gleaming totem]

Oh …..then how did the focuser slip… it was horizontal no matter how you rotate the telescope when you’re pointing at zenith.

[rotund prawn]

i have no idea

[gleaming totem]

Maybe temperature fluctuations?

[pallid garden]

THAT POLE IS DONE

Stop voting top or 🍑

[potent mango]

...

[rotund prawn]

meant to type tv

[halcyon kettle]

lmao I thought u meant 10 mins of skippable ads that are all about tubercolosis 😭

[wind fiber]

I don't watch tv, and in russia there is no ad on YouTube

[potent eagle]

it is so easy to add an adblocker

[river hazel]

Or if you actually want to help don't install adblock and install Ecosia

[potent eagle]

does it block ads on like youtube?

[river hazel]

No it doesn;t block any ads but it's using the ravenue to plant trees

[potent eagle]

id rather not have the ads

lol

[wind fiber]

I have ~550-600$

[mystic rampart]

tbh if I were you I'd hunt for a used 150/750 and a used EQ5 instead (and get onstep later), I feel like the EQ3-2 might struggle a lil bit for astrophoto with the 150p

some people would even say that the EQ5 is kinda suboptimal for a 6" actually (though personally imo it's fine)

idk where you're from but here in Poland I bought a used 150p for like 200 bucks recently and quite often see the EQ5 (sometimes even with motors!) go for like 300-350 bucks

[wind fiber]

So I take Used, I only have enough for eq3-2

[wind fiber]

I’m from Russia, many things here cost twice as much

Used 150/750 is 600$

[mystic rampart]

ah bummer.. though if those are common used prices you might still be able to snipe some occasional good deal to squeeze that EQ5 out of that budget

[wind fiber]

100%

Ok

I buy 150/750eq3-2
later i buy motors and onstep
later I sell eq3-2 with onstep
i buy eq5
i buy onstep for eq5

[potent mango]

as jack black i can confirm i am steve

nobody else can vote that

[latent vapor]

No women in here 💀

[gleaming totem]

I’m all of them combined

[lucid vessel]

im this guy:

[potent mango]

im this guy

[wind fiber]

I'm this guys

[mystic rampart]

I love my diffraction spikes, if I had a frac instead of a newt I'd 100% immediately 3D print a diffraction spider for it lol

[royal yarrow]

I dont have a 3d printer and people sell diffraction masks at such a price

[rotund prawn]

im astrophotographer

(male in reality)

[potent eagle]

where tf do comets go

[plucky isle]

All round dso ig

[potent eagle]

lol

[plucky isle]

Or star based cuz u could call them a shooting star that just lasts along while

Lol

[royal yarrow]

Shooting stars arent star so idk

[plucky isle]

True

[spare cape]

Ki

[mystic rampart]

icl APT emoji feels appropriate

[river hazel]

Who is @royal yarrow and also where is @royal yarrow ?

[north fractal]

misinformation

[lucid vessel]

no, i own it

[fallow scroll]

I misspelled happen

But who cares

[river hazel]

Bruuuuuuuuuuh how you forget equipment after you went astro camping?

[latent vapor]

1st one almost happened to me

[bitter spade]

The kind of equipment you lose from the camping one is less expensive than your home setup. I chose the first one

[river hazel]

Yeah i mean it makes sense

[mystic rampart]

oh wait it says after camping trip

then defo 1st, though I don't think this could happen to me cause I never leave my gear outside like that

when biscuit did in that one video, I said to myself "this is a horrible idea, this will go wrong" and next thing you know biscuit has a bent frac

[primal kite]

@royal yarrow keep dreaming

[potent eagle]

both the 1st and the last have happened to me

[river hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/soccer-dissapointed-sad-gif-12183208

[potent eagle]

the dob was fine, cleaned the mirror good as new

lost the 14mm

[primal saffron]

whyy did you clean the mirror

[potent eagle]

guess

(hint, the 1st option)

[river hazel]

The rain I get it but how you forget the the equipment AFTER you went to astro?

[potent eagle]

tired and left a lens

went back the next day, was gone

[river hazel]

That's the stuuf right there

[potent eagle]

the minnesota astronomical society has a 14mm rokinon now

[river hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[potent eagle]

good news is that lens sucked

so at least i can actually focus on infinity now

[river hazel]

with what lens?

[potent eagle]

another rokinon 14mm

my mother refused to get something used

[river hazel]

[potent eagle]

its mid

i prolly need to step it down to like f4 to get good results with it

[river hazel]

Ahh there's the typical Rokinon cheapness

[bitter spade]

what the- that's new

[royal yarrow]

Nor most parents know getting something used is probably (random numbers) betting 200€ and buying something new for 300€ is a safe thing because of guarantees (and its new) they would rather see you pay 100€ more than lose 200€ on a scam

[river hazel]

Well it depends Kamerastore is legit and gives 6 month retuen policy

[royal yarrow]

Professional used sellers dont even count as used in my eyes

[fallow scroll]

I mean it can happen

🤷🏼

[plucky isle]

I will if i can

When is it closest in uk?

I wont be able to view at its closest sadly

Id have to wait until oct 25

[mystic rampart]

well in that kinda choice I'd choose the mak but if it was smthn like 127mm mak vs 150mm newt I'd choose the newt

[primal kite]

no NGC 3372

[rotund prawn]

in order

[mystic rampart]

no NGC40, @drowsy knoll will be unhappy

[rotund prawn]

bruh ok lets make it this way

best ngc object from the list i made

kinda meant that from the start

ngc 3227's tidal streams are crazyy tho

[lucid vessel]

NGC 40 best, but you gave me no choice so NGC 90

[halcyon kettle]

all of these are ass NGC 6994 solos them all 😍 😍

[north fractal]

wicked, guessing thats hella tiny though

[rotund prawn]

nope

its enough for me to even image it

the 3d imaged it

[north fractal]

he got some wicked gear as well

[rotund prawn]

https://www.astrobin.com/euo9l7/

well i mean he doesnt have that much fov

this is literally my fov

[lucid vessel]

both stink

both smell like shit

[mystic rampart]

dudeee having a supernova happen in frame during an imaging session would be just absolutely diabolical

[mystic rampart]

there is a correct answer to this if you wanna survive donald's wrath

[drowsy knoll]

no there isnt

[halcyon kettle]

all of these are ass again NGC 6994 solos them all once again 😍 😍

[west sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-jump-space-gif-16221752

[royal yarrow]

M1 is kind of never imaged or at least never saw it on this server its so tiny

[mystic rampart]

huh? I took like 1 or 2 test subs somewhat recently and it didn't seem that small at all

[primal kite]

It'd not that small. It's also quite bright

It's a new supernova remanent

[royal yarrow]

Very rarely see ir

[mystic rampart]

with a 150/750, 1.1x coma corrector and an imx585 it's very neatly sized

[potent eagle]

first 10 messier objects

*or at least what stellarium mobile has as an image

[mystic rampart]

ah so the contest is between M1 and M8

[wind fiber]

8k full hd hdr

[halcyon kettle]

think this one will be a little more fair

in order:

[rotund prawn]

UGC 8 is actually fire

[potent eagle]

dear god what have i done

[primal kite]

which is better

[delicate pier]

You can tell left has the sky replaced.

[royal yarrow]

Yeah thought it was smaller

[rotund prawn]

oh wait till i make the top 10 "Caballero-Solano" objects

[potent eagle]

i haven't even heard of that one

[rotund prawn]

me neither

[halcyon kettle]

when

[drowsy knoll]

good

[wind fiber]

What is this role given for?

[royal yarrow]

Idk ask tp.astro

[delicate pier]

considering I have no clue what the brown dwarf role is for, I'll say getting banned.

[rotund prawn]

did yall read it wrong? it says which is worse not which is better

brown dwarf role is like a ban for your actions but you stay in the server and everyone sees what you did

[royal yarrow]

This is the best explanation i could think of

Its like doing a mistake but so badly you dont even get banned

[wind fiber]

as I understand it, just mute forever?

[rotund prawn]

nooo....

something MUCH worse

[wind fiber]

[latent vapor]

It will be pouring rain

100l

[grave totem]

ironic as i've had a lot of clear weather lately and every forecast shows it clearing up on the night of the eclipse, even weirder right before it starts (for me)
almost too convenient if you ask me

[river hazel]

Yeah but you still have the database and all the people here

[lucid vessel]

Semi dob

[tropic pendant]

ARP catalog gor the win

[pallid garden]

Melon catalog is a W

[lucid vessel]

These images are just quality

[river hazel]

M106

That core is amazing

[gleaming totem]

We didn't do it

[golden storm]

how is that even a question?

[rotund prawn]

hey what about the Kharchenko catalog?

[primal kite]

mono

[lucid vessel]

newt

[latent vapor]

Both

[latent vapor]

Get a newt instead of a frac

With mono

[delicate pier]

How would you image without a camera???

[undone saddle]

spectroscope

or with a radio antena

[royal yarrow]

Cameras for different wavelengths if you ask me 🤓

[undone saddle]

😔

[latent vapor]

Spectroscope?

[undone saddle]

yes, spectroscope

[latent vapor]

Spectroscope is something like a telescope (you don’t take pictures with you telescope, do you? You take them with your camera)

[undone saddle]

oh okay, maybe i meant a spectometer?

[delicate pier]

Tbh I have only recently joined astrobin, so I have no clue if it's better or not.

nvm, I just noticed what's new.

[potent eagle]

they made sorting images by date cost money

[undone saddle]

i think that description is skipping some other changes

[potent eagle]

dont really mind the other changes

[undone saddle]

like much better (imo) LAYOUT when you view an image

[potent eagle]

it was just really useful for comet stuff lol

[undone saddle]

or the 'other images in this region' section under image's details

[potent eagle]

finding images from a specific time is useful

[undone saddle]

overall its a minor ui revamp, dont agree with cutting out the free stuff tho

[grave totem]

burgers, here I am.for der exlips

[bitter spade]

bro I don't even see a new astrobin layout

What is everyone talking about

[bitter spade]

Eww put it down

[potent eagle]

date published used to be free

[bitter spade]

why tf would it need to costmoney

like oh yeah I'll tell you what my entire setup is, but not when I took it

[potent eagle]

no that also costs money, i think that part hasnt changed though

[delicate pier]

Very glad I opted to purchase the ultimate.

[undone saddle]

i mean astrobin is pretty affordable, but it's never good to lock the features that were previously free behind a paywall

[twin osprey]

Spectrometers, diy ones, use an astro cam to view the emission lines.

[undone saddle]

[mystic rampart]

isn't that just for search though?

[undone saddle]

for now

[mystic rampart]

yeah I checked and you can see both the equipment and date taken under posts when logged out, it's just the search features that are paid

[undone saddle]

the ones locked except date published have been like that even before the ui revamp

[lucid vessel]

why asstrobin so money hungry

[undone saddle]

storage

also who doesn't want to earn money?

[mystic rampart]

I imagine hosting astrophoto stuff can get quite expensive tbh, imo it's quite fair

[undone saddle]

pushing more people to pay also reduces the fee of an individual paying member

as a result it's more affordable and more users decide to upgrade

[rotund prawn]

Old:
Skywatcher 150p, EQ5 pro, ASI 585 MC, Baader UV/IR cut and other minor accesories
Upgraded:
Everything the same except an OAG, Umi 17r and a additional SV220

[rotund prawn]

i might go for an autofocuser instead of oag instead but idk

not much of a change?

i can actually image nebulae now

i will also get better guiding probably by atleast 2x

imo thats a pretty big change

[mystic rampart]

do you already have guiding of some sort?

[rotund prawn]

yes but its at 120mm thats why im considering if i should get an oag or autofocuser

[mystic rampart]

well, if your guiding is good enough then I'd go for the autofocuser, but if your guiding is not quite there then I'd absolutely go for improving that part and a cheap bahtinov mask for easy focusing

[rotund prawn]

I dont have problems with focusing but with the fact that focus changes with a temperature change for example

or a merdian flip also usually ruins my focus

and im not next to the scope all night

[mystic rampart]

imo it's all up to if your guiding is good enough or not, because even if you don't want to stand there all night to fix the focus, you can fix the focus by just putting work into keeping it in check if you really feel like it, while you can't do anything like that to fix guiding
basically the matter of gear holding you back entirely vs the gear just being less convenient to use

[rotund prawn]

my guiding isnt that bad and the new mount ill have has some really good guiding so i think ill go for the autofocuser

im literally sleeping while the rig is taking pics so i definetly cant check every now and then

[twin osprey]

The mount doesn’t guide.

What is the guiding pixel scale and imaging pixel scale? That is what matters most

[rotund prawn]

wdym?

by what i said i mean the error is really good with the mount

[rotund prawn]

0.8, 6.45

i think you can guess which one is which

[twin osprey]

Yeah, that’s not great

[twin osprey]

If polar alignment is good it could work

[rotund prawn]

you tweaking bro

firstly, Ha in other galaxies (except m33)

pretty much impossible to capture without nb

secondly, large nebula are hard to capture without one i mean i tried ngc 6888 once and even with a 60s exposure there barely was anything

also guiding is pretty much necessary if you want to do long subs

[mystic rampart]

have you been using a DSLR when you did that by chance, or like are you sure you were on target

[rotund prawn]

no i was using asi 585 mc and yes i platesolved multiple times to see if im really on the target

[mystic rampart]

what bortle

[rotund prawn]

4

i captured cocoon recently and it was very dim on my subs too

also tried to capture other big nebulae other than ngc 6888 and same thing

[mystic rampart]

I mean, narrowband isn't exactly gonna make that stuff brighter, it's just gonna make other stuff dimmer

[rotund prawn]

i know but like seriously i barely saw anything

maybe it was because i wasnt shooting with a uv ir cut filter so i was capturing a lot of nir too

[mystic rampart]

well idk how bright crescent is cause I have an unmodded DSLR and I think I only took 1 sub of it ever without checking if I'm even on target and after it started getting bright lol, but are you sure it's not just that it's dim enough where you need more than 60s for it to be noticible

[rotund prawn]

ok whatever lets just end this discussion

and i firstly didnt even say you cant capture them without one

[lucid vessel]

Rho Ophiuchi like Chicken Sandwich

[mystic rampart]

so like cheese then

[pallid garden]

No

Wrong

Rho

[mystic rampart]

I meant the opiuchi part

[river hazel]

What's the difference anyway

?

[lucid vessel]

hell no

[undone saddle]

xisf has more headers and built in loseless compression

[river hazel]

Yeah but that doesn't justify it to be adopted by everything.

[undone saddle]

it's just a poll, was wondering what's the public opinion on it

[rotund prawn]

nerdy ahh poll

[serene slate]

Gesundheit.

[rotund prawn]

opuci (ci in polish)

[river hazel]

For 1 year I thought it was called similar to occupy

[lucid vessel]

Eq6r pro

[rotund prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[lucid vessel]

fine, CEM25p

[mystic rampart]

holy shit do we need a second poll for whether it's ophiuchi like phineas or opiuchi like pinokio 😩

[potent mango]

are you sure abt that?

[latent vapor]

Sprechen Sie Spanisch??

[potent mango]

spreading the sea spanish?

[mystic rampart]

yeah the spanish used to do that i think

[pallid garden]

Ooh

I thought you meant what it likes to eat more

[halcyon kettle]

I say 'Ophiuchus' like Cheese but 'Ophiuchi' like Chemistry lol

[lucid vessel]

very controversial

[rotund prawn]

nah give the man an "asteroid" role

naw since everything is made out of them

[lucid vessel]

thats simple science knowledge ☠️

[rotund prawn]

fr

[rotund prawn]

or another option, not sigma

react to this message with a if you agree

[lucid vessel]

alr

[rotund prawn]

it was about qqq explaining why you shouldnt apply scnr and instead you should do curves

[lucid vessel]

i run scnr but at very low settings

to not completely kill the green

i tweaked my scnr a bit so my reds dont turn orange

[undone saddle]

democracy in a nutshell heh

[potent eagle]

do both at the same time

[shell moon]

how

I watch movies in my home theater

cant access my rig

[undone saddle]

cant you remote into your laptop?

[shell moon]

I can but I have to manual dither

no guiding lol

[potent eagle]

use your phone?

[shell moon]

did u read my previous messages

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-cat-facepalm-cat-bruh-bru-gif-3855516381892795428

[potent eagle]

yea

physical media unpog

[shell moon]

eh

I dont like phone

I like big screen

[potent eagle]

eh you get used to it

long form youtube content my beloved

[shell moon]

I mean I don't have this for no reason

[shell moon]

nuh uh

movie

sonic

how tf is that possible

school projectors are basic duh

any home theater prjector will be better

fr

[bitter spade]

Uhh, they have whiteboards at my school

[shell moon]

sxame

[bitter spade]

So entertaining frfr

[shell moon]

very

[undone saddle]

the 400x600 resolution

[mystic rampart]

BRUH if it's that or andromeda that makes the answer being andromeda quite clear

[mystic rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

^(my last braincell craving aperture)

the urge to get a job to save up for a 20" mirror and ATM a gargantuan newt... mmmmmmm

[drowsy knoll]

Who needs a big scope? This is from a 4” scope (with drizzle + BlurX).

[undone saddle]

i second this, for some dso objects wider fovs can often work much better

[sleek inlet]

8" is good for DSOs, planetary and visual

a better balance isn't achievable imo

[sleek inlet]

and it's also quite portable

[latent vapor]

What fl?

[drowsy knoll]

530mm

[latent vapor]

how

[drowsy knoll]

Tak + Drizzle + BlurX

[latent vapor]

oh yeah, the tak makes sense

[undone saddle]

gotta love the 2x drizzle

[shell moon]

I'll prob do it today and Tomorrow

[shell moon]

Dawg who said 16in scope

[undone saddle]

must be some planetary nerds

[mystic rampart]

just.. regular? size? 😭

[river hazel]

But that's

that's

that's boring man

[mystic rampart]

I'm gonna let the same braincell decide that craves a big dob then

[river hazel]

If @potent eagle feeling edgy he will buy a gear box for his lights

[potent eagle]

chat i dont get it

[river hazel]

Don't worry chat I got it.It's time to surf the internet

[river hazel]

Use this for light switching

You know Im up to no good when I wanna troll @potent eagle

[potent eagle]

do not troll the troll master

or do i cant stop you

[river hazel]

Maybe we shouldn't push our limits because I see Polls 2.0 in the horizon

[potent eagle]

ok dimmer user

[rotund prawn]

american ahh light switches

ive never seen one of them in person and ive only seen these kinds of light switches

[north fractal]

same

[halcyon kettle]

nah I'm in South Asia and see the left one pretty often

[halcyon kettle]

tho yes these are the most common here too

[bitter spade]

what about the button ones

[jovial quest]

I've never seen a small light switch. Is it common in the US?