vapid sage
533mc
135mm F/2.
Both panels and the stitch are included.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m7cjWjfJRAbw2r8ClyE8lTRlas3mMijL/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EX6ky3UUW7KWfOEcRZ2-xInZ8T4mj6yY/view?usp=drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VpOdnommjxg6VHGkTxCYh92NX7TvTmho/view?usp=sharing
iron osprey
You always get very nice data
strong anchor
no way bro woke up one day and decided to acquire this JUICY data
also im so mad u got this is in 10H
it has like 2x better snr than my 12H one
ok admittedly i used f/2.8
must be nice to have dark skies
hit the sat a little
vapid sage
also im so mad u got this is in 10H
It’s 5 hours
iron osprey
hit the sat a little
You are a nice processor
Ima try Msgr on this data
@vapid sage was this data denoiseD?
vapid sage
The mosaic yes I think, because registration messes with the interpretation of the noise.
iron osprey
The mosaic yes I think, because registration messes with the interpretation of t...
should i process the mosaic? or would a better result come out with each panel individually processed?
vapid sage
Depends how lazy you are
iron osprey
im looking at the mosaic rn in pix it felt a lil denosied
vapid sage
Matching gradients for the mosaic was challenging. Will be much easier with MSGR.
iron osprey
Matching gradients for the mosaic was challenging. Will be much easier with MSGR...
msgr on the mosaic or each panel?
vapid sage
Each panel
iron osprey
ill try that then
also why do you upload tifs?
i can tell its a pix stack by the name obviouslt
but i believe an xisf might be slughtlty better id assume
vapid sage
Why tho
vapid sage
Chronic laziness
strong anchor
You are a nice processor
thanks :)))
strong anchor
Ima try Msgr on this data
i tried with my crappy 24mm data and it had more gradients than the original, i didnt do any gradient correction in the end.
strong anchor
Matching gradients for the mosaic was challenging. Will be much easier with MSGR...
you did bloody well, i almost forgot it was a mosaic until i saw a faint line thru the blue channel
strong anchor
It’s 5 hours
per panel no?
iron osprey
thanks :)))
how do you process
strong anchor
should i just list my processes
strong anchor
i also used a superstretched lightness mask to apply a slight HDR.
i dislike super harsh HDRs on wide orion images though, so its not very strong
most people screw it up and it ruins the image
iron osprey
i tried with my crappy 24mm data and it had more gradients than the original, i ...
i used my 135 data
that you msgr'ed
and it works nicelty lol
strong anchor
i used my 135 data
yeah my 135 data has more gradients than this so uhhh i just left it
iron osprey
yeah my 135 data has more gradients than this so uhhh i just left it
mine was just stock data in b1
strong anchor
ohh mines b5 hehe
at this point im just mad i have to underuse my camera and lens light bucketing potential because of light pollution
iron osprey
bortle 5 is not bad
i got great pics with just a stock dslr in it and i got even better with my redcat and 533
strong anchor
my settings are basically maxed out at f/2.8, 30", and ISO500
iron osprey
@vapid sage what did you use for combining?
strong anchor
which is extremely painful, given canon 6D's horrendous upstream noise at low gains
strong anchor
how did u do it
iron osprey
how did u do it
platesolve -> MosaicByCoordinates -> GradientMergeMosaic (with the registered files)
vapid sage
per panel no?
ya
iron osprey
nah but compared to urs and lmncs they look odd
strong anchor
belt stars look a bit weird
strong anchor
to be honest your colours by themselves look the most correct out of all 3 ours
strong anchor
lemme cook
i think its just too small for the halo
like theres a huge halo coming from a tiny star and it feels odd
iron osprey
like theres a huge halo coming from a tiny star and it feels odd
where
iron osprey
hungry jacks is fire ngl
vapid sage
nah but compared to urs and lmncs they look odd
taste, i liked the bluer look.
iron osprey
taste, i liked the bluer look.
my taste is just whatever looks most natural tbh
strong anchor
photometrically spectrally acurrate colours are the ultimate tast
iron osprey
photometrically spectrally acurrate colours are the ultimate tast
i use spcc i believe you and lmc do aswell so im wondering why ours turned out different?
Finished, very nice data as always.
This looks kinda similar to the one in #🏆-hall-of-fame
strong anchor
i use spcc i believe you and lmc do aswell so im wondering why ours turned out d...
different parameters
iron osprey
different parameters
For real (idk what that means)
strong anchor
This looks kinda similar to the one in <#893213110574383124>
oh yeah it does lmao
that one i was a bit surprised made it to hof
not thats its bad, i just think the quality of hof is relatively decreasing
ofc theyre all great images
iron osprey
I will get hof soon trust the process
strange lynx
this just looks soo dirty gorgeous 😈 lol love the data and thoroughly enjoyed editing that thanks @vapid sage 👍
kept the star brightness down to keep the "dirty" look
sturdy juniper
Hi, thank you for sharing, really cool data to work with
deep kiln
very good
pliant berry
severe drift
strange lynx
2nd go, this data is gorgeous lol
random epoch
very nice data, as always!
severe hemlock
Beautiful
strong anchor
just came past this thread again
what an awesome dataset this was
i love the red ha streaming behind the dust over on orion neb's side
ive honestly never seen an image where those two are so well integrated as here
vapid sage
Cant wait for next summer to get more than 5 hours lol
iron osprey
A
vapid sage
wasnt it 5h per panel?
Snr doesn’t change with a mosaic. It’s the same as 5h of data on a larger sensor.
strong anchor
oh ok
tall isle
this is absolutely incredible. might be the best image of orion i've ever seen. i'll have to give the data a go soon
nova wedge
cursive barn
starnet ate your core
i like this daytar
gonna do an iHDR process
i lied. im not doing ihdr
that core is hard af to keep in control
sand mango
533mc
135mm F/2.
Both panels and the stitch are included.
https://drive.google.c...
Good God.. do you have the .xisf files you can share.. It's ok if its privatly..
nova wedge
just use the tiff file with PIX
sand mango
just use the tiff file with PIX
I can do that, but what most people ignore is that tiff files lose a lot of information compared to a fit or .xisf that is the most pure of file format. Even a 32 bit tiff. This is why I ask if there's another format beside tiff available.
cursive barn
just add the info youreself
nova wedge
dude, xisf is basically the same as tiff, but with extra informations
what you're losing is the astrometric information, which is gone anyway because its a mosaic
cursive barn
i was able to plate solve it
you can platesolve it in pix and then combine the panels together
nova wedge
same, I just use nova
@sand mango a little history on the file format, NASA took the TIFF format and expanded its headers with standardized astronomy information, but then each project and companies abused it and created incompatible headers (including pixinsight). Then pixinsight took that even further by adding software specific information such as preview bounding box and preview images. They diverges so much that pixinsight decided to just create their own "standard"
hence xisf, underneath all of the extra information, it still uses the same header system as FITS, it still stores image data the same as TIFF, you're not losing any resolution, pixels nor depth, by using a TIFF, the only difference is that an XISF is guaranteed to have a normalized (0-1) floating point data, while TIFF and FITS can have data outside of that range
cursive barn
sand mango
<@853447305981067287> a little history on the file format, NASA took the TIFF fo...
Thank you for the "history lesson" but I'll keep my position after some research on that matter a while ago. I know the problems that I've having the last couple of months on working with tiffs after converting them through Pix and work with them specially in a non-linear form. It was cleared to me that was not the best format to work with this type of data, despite been extremly good for other applications.
vapid sage
I send all my data as tiff, because it provides a preview image (honestly too lazy to convert to tiff for photoshop if i used fits)
The main reason is compatibility though. The data is exactly identical and is not changed at all across file formats.
Not everyone has access to pix.
vale mortar
Just a quick process i threw together
iron osprey
i could reprocess this tbh
strong anchor
@vapid sage reprocessed it
i think it looks similar but slightly better to my original proc
strong anchor
vapid sage
Nice
vapid sage
Same. Took me forever to notice them now I can’t unsee
inland gulch
A couple of attempts in, I probably burnt the core but otherwise I'm satisfied with the colours
Awesome data, was loads of fun to process
hybrid umbra
this data is practically noise less
i honestly shouldve stretched it more and pushed it harder
i was struggling quite a bit with the colours, orion and the running man nebula becoming a wierd white colour
also i didnt get the red hue in the faint dust that i see other people getting
i checked for clipping but i dont think that is the problem
i tried to mask orion and saturate colours in photoshop but that didnt work either
strong anchor
also i didnt get the red hue in the faint dust that i see other people getting
you need to use SPCC to calibrate the image first
yours has a very weird hue on it
which will swamp any fine colour separation
strong anchor
meh process
i think this is quite nice tbh
your just didnt push as far
but looks very nice nonetheless
something lux would probably approve of, he likes the less-is-more processes
strong anchor
I will get hof soon trust the process
where the hof at
inland gulch
you need to use SPCC to calibrate the image first
What's SPCC ?
strong anchor
What's SPCC ?
spectrophotometric colour calibration
using gaia spectroscopy data to correct your channel colour relations
inland gulch
Is it equivalent to PCC in Siril ?
Or it's a completely different thing
strong anchor
Is it equivalent to PCC in Siril ?
Or it's a completely different thing
similar
i think PCC uses ground-based telescope data instead of GAIA
but its still very good
inland gulch
Okay thanks
hybrid umbra
spectrophotometric colour calibration
I dont have pix insight so ill have to use the photometric colour calibration
better than nothing i guess
ill give it a go and see how it turns out
honest linden
similar
Not really.
SPCC take into account camera and filter specifications in the computation.
Siril , in its dev version, has SPCC
strong anchor
Not really.
SPCC take into account camera and filter specifications in the compu...
oh yeah forgot to mention that
i usually just keep it on sony cmos rgb tho
hybrid umbra
hybrid umbra
i tried the photometric calibratin
but it didnt really make a big effect
the blue in orion is still kinda white
pulsar bolt
Here you go @vapid sage I hope did these data justice 😄
random yew
wild zinc
How did i do
median blade
humble pecan
neat shard
Rushed too fast and forgot to crop corners. Later i tried to reprocess but i couldn't reach same effect. So i sticked with non croped so in the end corners got blown away. Also i dont have enough experince how to not blow away orion core 😅 btw nice data
wild zinc
2nd attempt mostly with siril
autumn lark
I think i will retry it
autumn lark
kindred lava
Hmm
kindred lava
@vapid sage probably a shitty attempt, but very nice data.
vapid sage
Nice
kindred lava
Gradients are the only struggle, probably cause the merge artifact in the middle
lime ingot
@vapid sage quick process, not too sure if i like it, will prob redo soon
strong anchor
<@384553833268903948> quick process, not too sure if i like it, will prob redo s...
that looks nice but orion looks hella bright
lime ingot
that looks nice but orion looks hella bright
yea, i wasnt very careful w GHS
strong anchor
yea, i wasnt very careful w GHS
GHS is nice as a starting point for HDR, but i dont recommend doing the whole HDR process using it
lime ingot
oh no i didnt do HDR w GHS
strong anchor
esp for super dynamic stuff like this, you will either get a bad core, or low contrast elsewhere
strong anchor
oh no i didnt do HDR w GHS
oh alr
lime ingot
i did GHS for stretching generally, then some more other stuff for HDR
tbh i should have prob left it blown
strong anchor
whats the other stuff
lime ingot
whats the other stuff
tis cannot be revealed
strong anchor
tis cannot be revealed
not bothered to write it or gatekeeping
lime ingot
its 7 am and i havent slept, draw ur own conlcusions lmao
iron osprey
where the hof at
Soon
iron osprey
bro still hasnt gotten a hof
I technically got 1/4 of one
strong anchor
2025 and still no hof is crazy
iron osprey
#🏆-hall-of-fame message I blurxed this
strong anchor
that is NOT cold bro
iron osprey
I got something cooking though
strong anchor
do NOT let tom williams see this thread 🙏
bro probably approaching the triple digits
lime ingot
bro probably approaching the triple digits
lmao
i won my colleges photographer comp
so that’s a pretty big deal
it was not a big deal
lime ingot
show the winning photo
it was my crescent or my elephants trunk
strong anchor
wdym or?
lime ingot
the crescent
lime ingot
was it an astrophoto comp?
general, like 2 other people submitted astro 1 was with a phone and one was with a 6” newt with a dslr
i’m still working on this but basically me and maarten joined data and i was playing with it
the elephant trunk
strong anchor
general, like 2 other people submitted astro 1 was with a phone and one was with...
i dont like when regular comps accept astro tbh
cuz the judges have no perception of whats good/bad
lime ingot
cuz the judges have no perception of whats good/bad
fair enough tbh
let’s just say i knew i was getting first and second place when i entered
strong anchor
often when they do that the cooked ahh looking "pretty" images will do well
strong anchor
let’s just say i knew i was getting first and second place when i entered
haha lmao
since its a college one its pretty easy anyways
lime ingot
yea exactly
strong anchor
not too many people do good photography
lime ingot
there were a few really solid images tho
but i think the judges were blown away by astro
strong anchor
why do ur stars look like a result from morphological transform
u gotta actually drop a good one after the joke 🙏
autumn lark
sorry man thats siriL i dont do magic
autumn lark
u gotta actually drop a good one after the joke 🙏
Sorry for the wait brother i made it somewhat better
what do you think?
strong anchor
what do you think?
good stuff man
autumn lark
good stuff man
Thanks
wild zinc
another attempt on this incredible data set
autumn lark
lol fr
tribal perch
lavish tapir
autumn lark
this thread absolutely refuses to die and i love it 😭😭😭
man you where right this thread just refuses to die lol
strong anchor
most processed data on the server??
dry yew
probably
cerulean cape
