ASI 585 MC owners

[frigid violet]

Is a Uranus C welcome here too?

[eternal glade]

🤔. Can't see why not.. Same sensor. Not sure how this Discord works though.

[frigid violet]

Wooo

[hushed saddle]

Yep

I mean asi 585 mc and Uranus C use imx 585 like Karl said

[frigid violet]

This js a dumb question, but how do I make sure my uranus c is turned off

[hushed saddle]

What do you mean?

[frigid violet]

don't worry, someone told me its not on unless its plugged in so I think im okay :)

For context, I was worried about electrical fires from the Uranus C being switched on too long, and was wondering how to turn it off fully so there is no flowing current

[hushed saddle]

...

The power source is your computer... If its off or the cable is not plugged in how can it be on

[hearty isle]

Pic with my Uranus C

[frigid violet]

Exactly

Yet my brain says otherwise lol

[hushed saddle]

Thats pretty good

[eternal glade]

5th October 2023, M33 for the first time using the 585!.

Quite happy with the sensor temperature as it started off at 11 degrees and finnished at 6 degrees (when packing up).
Question : if I take darks, do I take them at 6 or 11 degrees, or don't it matter?

This is the result :
27x180 from a previous session
&
40x300 (Saturday night)
No DBF as it was a night of testing.

Both nights dithered.

✅ Dss reports 4h & 5m.
✅ Pixinsight
✅ Lr

✅ Az-gti
✅ 72ed
✅ Zwo 585mc at gain 252
✅ Phd2
✅ Svbony ir/uv cut

UPDATE
As this is an image from October 2023 since then I have tested the 585mc with using light's and darks and then lights and flats.

I'll make a separate post for this result.

[hushed saddle]

I don't think the temperature on the darks matters but i'm no expert in that topic so i can't tell you exactly

Also nice image

Is that cropped?

[frigid violet]

Anyone know why I couldn't see Jupiter with my uranus c?

Set up like this (ignore the numbers)

It was connected to my laptop via the USB cable, and I was using firecapture

[hushed saddle]

What do you mean by that?

Like what did it show

Nothing? Just black screen or what

[hearty isle]

Are you sure it was in your FOV?

Try setting Gain higher

[hushed saddle]

What were your settings?

[frigid violet]

Pretty sure, I searched absolutely everywhere around where it could be. I used a gain of 250 and a gamma of 63

[hearty isle]

What exposure time?

[eternal glade]

Thank you & no not cropped. Next time I gather data to add to this image. No, no crop. Darks are temperature dependent but I was unsure if 5 celcius makes a difference. : screen shot is as it would appear with my 72ed 😊

[frigid violet]

I tried all different exposures, from 10 ms to 100.0

[hearty isle]

What f is your scope?

*f ratio

?

[frigid violet]

Not sure, it's a 1500mm mak (FL) and 127mm diameter

But I had a 3x barlow in

F 11.8

[hearty isle]

Could you see stars?

[frigid violet]

Not sure as there was lots of clouds, I was just trying to check if the camera could focus or if I need a spacer

I would try to find Jupiter inbetween the clouds

[hearty isle]

Oh wait, this triples your f ratio. That might be overkill (f/35)

[frigid violet]

Yiiiiiiiikes

I've observed with the barlow and a 25mm lens before quite comfortably, and even done astrophotography on it

So I'm not sure if it's that

[frigid violet]

Do you think I should decrease my f ratio?

[hearty isle]

Yes, try that

[eternal glade]

Hi, sorry to stepping in.. Yes f35 is very dark, even with general photography let alone astro.
Not sure of your location it as it stands now the moon in out on MY morning.. So I'd attach camera and try the moon. If you don't have the moon then jupiter will be the next best thing.
Remove the Barlow and try and gain focus. I don't believe that you need any spacer / extention tubes.

I don't know firecapture that well but I do know Sharpcap.. Try your gain at 550 and shutter/exposure of 3.5

Better still if you can Platesolve then you would know for sure that you have ANY object in your fov.

[frigid violet]

I'm slightly confused as I've used my scope at f35 to image (with my phone) before and the results were fine. Do you know why it could cause a problem now?

I also don't know how to platesolve

[eternal glade]

What were you imaging with your phone? I'm guessing your phone was set to auto, so the iso would be very high. What did you see when using the uranus c?

[frigid violet]

I was using an iso of 64-100 on Jupiter and a shutter speed of 1/30 and 1/60. With the Uranus c, all I got was a grainy live feed

[eternal glade]

Have you used this camera before? Tested in the day?

[hearty isle]

Then try exposure times over 1 sec with much higher gain. Maybe you‘ll see it then

[frigid violet]

I tested in a room with one side dark and one side light, when I pointed the camera at different areas of the room it clearly picked up the different light levels

[frigid violet]

I'll try that, thank you

[frigid violet]

Testing right now, I can see the trees in my live feed very very clearly, only small problem is that there seems to be little squares. Is this normal?

It also seems to be in monochrome, but the camera is a colour camera, Is there a setting i need to do for colour?

[hearty isle]

Yes

[hearty isle]

Send a pic of your firecapture stettings

[hearty isle]

Yeah, click on that red button and select rgb

[frigid violet]

which red button, i can see 5

[hearty isle]

The one right from „Jupiter captures“

[frigid violet]

Ah, thank you :)

this whole camera is completely alien to me (no pun intended)

[hearty isle]

Ah btw, you are using the ROI, so you are not using the whole resolution. Click on the max button on the top to use whole res

Don‘t know if you intended it to be like that

[frigid violet]

I did not 😆

Thank you

that probably would of made it easier to find jupiter last night

[hushed saddle]

This is the raw file grid, you can see it when there is no debraying done on the image

[frigid violet]

So they go away once processed, or do I need to turn debayering off?

[hushed saddle]

When you stack the image and select to debray it it will have color

Just select auto detect

Also everytime you will capture Jupiter or any other planet turn on ROI to save space and get higher fps

Click on the live view and drag your mouse until a red square will appear saying something like "200x200"

[frigid violet]

yep, once i find jupiter i'll ROI it and then record that only, thank you. I'll have to read about Debayering as im not fully sure what it is or where that screenshot comes from. Is that on Pipp or AS?

[hushed saddle]

AS

[eternal glade]

Yes the squares are dew to the debayer pattern. You need to use the raw16 OR raw8 format.

[frigid violet]

i'll have a look, thank you

[hushed saddle]

Np

[frigid violet]

Where would i find this on fc?

[hushed saddle]

You don't

Capture it in .ser

Then just put it straight up in autostakkert

[eternal glade]

As @hushed saddle said above.

[frigid violet]

I've never used .ser, only avi, how different are they to process?

[hushed saddle]

Really no difference from what i see

It's just that you have to install a ser player if you want to for some reason view the recorded file

[frigid violet]

Well thats comforting to hear, i've seen .ser once or twice and it was a word document so i was beyond confused at how to process that XD

i'll give it a shot soon

thank you

[eternal glade]

A. Ser file is many many files INTO one file. Be aware they can get very very big quickly.

[hushed saddle]

Yep just like avi

[frigid violet]

Ah okay thank you :)

just had time inbetween 2 massive clouds to get a few shots

probably out of focus but hey

the camera works

and i can confirm, f/35 is farrrrr too zoomed in.

Videos were still monochrome, but i did shoot in rgb

[eternal glade]

@frigid violet What make and model is your scope?

1500mm.. Adding the 3x Barlow would make it a 4500mm.. With a full frame sensor that's hard.. But using the 585mc it's impossible, especially without Platesolve and tracking being spot on.

[frigid violet]

It's a skywatcher 127mm Maksutov

[frigid violet]

i selected Auto detect but it is still in grey?

But its still grey with the squares in registax

i am reaally confused

@eternal glade do you know what is going on here?

[frigid violet]

^

[hushed saddle]

Then select a different pattern

[frigid violet]

alright thank you

[frigid violet]

i've tried all of them, all came out grey

[hushed saddle]

Maybe try without putting it in pip?

[frigid violet]

I'll have to try tomorrow evening as I've got school now :/

[eternal glade]

I've never likes registax so can't comment. Try pipp THEN Autostakkert.

[frigid violet]

I put it into pipp first, then Autostakkert anyway

[eternal glade]

It just looks like something in registax is the issue.

[frigid violet]

Why do you think that?

Registax occasionally showed colour when I sharpened it, but other than that Pipp ans AS were both completely monochrome

[frigid violet]

I've just tried no pipp and that seems to have brought a colour image out on AS after stacking. So maybe something on Pipp is wrong 🤔

[frigid violet]

• with the dummy cam

[frigid violet]

First proper light with the Uranus C, I'd say it went very well

Compression is crazy on those

[hushed saddle]

Nice!

[frigid violet]

wow

theyre much more vibrant on my phone and laptop than when i sent them on here :///

[craggy pollen]

Just wondering… did they ever fix the issues with HDR?

[hushed saddle]

oh lol i completely forgot about this