I'm not great with deep sky, and I don't have any camera's to use for deep sky accept my phone. But, recently I got an 8SE that can track. Using the Google Pixel Astrophotography feature, I was able to use a one minute and 30 second long exposure of Orion! It's not amazing, but alright for what I can do now. Also kicking myself for not cleaning my damn eyepiece.
If anyone says use deep sky camera app, I know of it, and I can't.