Comets

[sweet creek]

If there was no hotels near the horizon, it would be amazing
Bortle 5 skies

[little moon]

Nice

You got to see it at least

[sweet creek]

Thanks ☄️

[lavish lark]

bro is NOT making it to perihelion

[elder bay]

@tame minnow converted

[neon viper]

I'm still gonna be rooting for it

CRACKET FTW!11!11!

[tame minnow]

@tawny elm

pwease make the background darker

[tawny elm]

🥺

[lavish lark]

lemme chuck that into gimp gimme 29 seconds exactly

[tawny elm]

@tame minnow

[lavish lark]

i was late

higher quality

[static sage]

le 135mm

[bright minnow]

Not likely. Probably closer to love joy

[formal cliff]

Nicee

Still fricking cloudy for me

It was clear all day long and the moment the sun set, clouds went in...

[bright minnow]

and kids

this is why you take flats

[compact bronze]

what.

you southerners gonna hgave fun

[tawny elm]

\

[compact bronze]

me

[little moon]

Even some mid northerners too

I think I may be able to get something

[compact bronze]

u can

[compact bronze]

im lat 37 so idk

[little moon]

Better than me

I'm 40N

[compact bronze]

ohh

[lavish lark]

45N here

[little moon]

May be able to get smth as well

[lavish lark]

lemme check stellarium for when i can first see s1 (assuming it survives)

november 5th-6th at the earliest :(

lemme check how lovejoy looked at a similar distance to the sun

suboptimal

[compact bronze]

comet?

[little moon]

Ouch

I mean, it is behind the milky way

So from dark skies it should be pretty neat

[lavish lark]

not just because of the brightness

its capturing that when its 3 degrees above the horizon

in twilight

[little moon]

Yeah actually that kinda sucks

But we have hope for the cracket!1!!1!!11!

(Please survive and crack something later)

[lavish lark]

cracket my beloved

like look at this crap

and when its more visible for me, lovejoy looked like that

[little moon]

Yeah

Fortunately it won't be washed out by the milky way

[lavish lark]

just twilight lol

[little moon]

Yea

Not good lol

But it should be neat photographically if imaged carefully

And we should be able to see the tail at least

[lavish lark]

*if it survives

[little moon]

Yea ofc

Tbh A3 would have looked pretty much like a big kreutz if it hadn't been for the moon

[lavish lark]

long low surface brightness tail?

[little moon]

Kreutz actually have a high surface brightness tail

But that's abt it

[lavish lark]

actually yeah it does match pretty well

*pretty well in airquotes

[little moon]

Yea

[little moon]

(Bray Falls)

[lavish lark]

comes directly from the sun, fades rapidly, long tail

[little moon]

Yea

[lavish lark]

as long aa you didn't see the morning pass it would prolly look similar to a sungrazer lol

*the orbital speed wouldn't match

[little moon]

Yea

[lavish lark]

*because like, it isnt a sungrazer

[little moon]

Ofc

[lavish lark]

i don't think il be able to image cracket though:(

[little moon]

Me neither most probably

[lavish lark]

oh god only 8 days until perihelion

[little moon]

Yeah

[neon viper]

33 🤑

[neon viper]

ok nvm its a morning only object

[hoary basin]

comet has been shot

[wild sequoia]

why u shoot it what it do

[wild sequoia]

what is 342p on

[formal cliff]

That actually looks so cool

And isn't even that cooked

[balmy falcon]

I cant find anywhere where i can show my picture, I suppose I could post it here.
C/2023 A3, 45 min exposure

[tame minnow]

@elder bay can u pls makke it 16bit tiff with gimp

oops i replied u

[lavish lark]

why did you rely to me and ping someone else lol

[tame minnow]

accident

[elder bay]

I cant do it rn, im going to sleep

[lavish lark]

i can do it though

[tame minnow]

oh gn man

[elder bay]

Good night

[tame minnow]

ok thx

[tame minnow]

yh bc graxpert dislikes it as it is rn

[tame minnow]

did u do it?

[lavish lark]

seems like graxpert doesnt know what to do with it?

gonna make sure i used the right file

[tame minnow]

brother in christ i didnt ask u to denoise it

[lavish lark]

oh

kill me now

[tame minnow]

i asked u to make it 16bit ttiff file with gimp

my gimp broke

[lavish lark]

i think it was a 16 bit tiff file though?

[tame minnow]

gimp is the solution tho

[tame minnow]

just try it annd see if it works

[lavish lark]

ok yep confirmed it was a 16 bit tiff?

[tame minnow]

bruh wtf is wrong with it tthen

[lavish lark]

i dunno

i can make it a 32 bit tiff

[tame minnow]

ok if it wworks

[worthy steppe]

Should I capture it

Now

When it's very high

[lavish lark]

sure i guess?

its like 3rd-4th mag now though

[worthy steppe]

Wow

[formal cliff]

YEAH I FINALLY SAW IT

Through the clouds but still

Nice tail and green core through the telescope

Lots of altitude clouds

[stuck knot]

you saw even color, niiice

I am being reminded how much of my cpu pixinsight is able to use xD

[bright minnow]

My crappy attempt

[lavish lark]

you missed 13p olbers and arena roland

smh

wait this isnt polls

[compact bronze]

doesnt matter lmfaooo

[compact bronze]

shat

[lavish lark]

did hale bopp even have an anti tail that long after perihelion

[worthy steppe]

Wooo

[compact bronze]

yes

[lavish lark]

oh damn it did

[brazen sonnet]

News on s1?

[bright minnow]

Not looking good

[lavish lark]

i dont even know at this point

its somehow defied any expectation

thankfully perihelion is only in 8 days or so

so at least we dont need to predict much

[worthy steppe]

What is that

I mean

That's a comet

But why black and white

[tawny elm]

inversed

[worthy steppe]

Ohh

Those big spots?

Dust?

Bro ur pfp looks kinda blurry @tawny elm

[tawny elm]

ok

[worthy steppe]

Because it's zoomed

Zoom it out

[tawny elm]

what do you want it to be

[bright minnow]

@brazen sonnet

[little moon]

Ouch

[neon viper]

🫡

rip Cracket

[river patio]

It's over

[sweet creek]

What?

[wild sequoia]

a3

ij the oic

finally got it

[undone epoch]

nucleus of Atlas

Compression killed it

[wild sequoia]

here's every pic of a3 I took today bc it's finally clear in the uk

it will be hard to find a3, but yed prior/posterior, Lambda ophiuci and kappa ophiuci are all in the pics too (reference stars I used to make sure it's a3 im lookin at)

wait no one of them is a nearby region

ignore the first one in the group of 10

[compact bronze]

yoo

[wild sequoia]

every image ftom todays a3 montage

[worthy steppe]

Sori

[little moon]

More footage

Definitely looks wrong

[wild sequoia]

this image has been elongated

[compact bronze]

but its fine

[jagged valley]

How is S1 doing?

[tawny elm]

^^

[lavish lark]

somewhere between bad and horrible

[bright minnow]

It’s not all over yet

It’s till it clear whether it’s a goner

Or not

[lavish lark]

pretty close though lol

[bright minnow]

Yeah

I still have my $30 on it hitting earth

[lavish lark]

eh only 5 days until perihelion

[bright minnow]

It just has to hold out 5 days

And hopefully we get a sick headless comet

[little moon]

6*

[hoary basin]

Comet is still pretty easily visible naked eye

[tawny elm]

sir you live in bortle 2

[static sage]

wasnt it 1

[hoary mauve]

Plane window

[static sage]

wicked

[wild sequoia]

a3 ma3nia (asghkjdkeh)
on some it will be harder to find but yea
(taken with funi binocs)

turning your screen brightness up makes it easier to pick out a3 especially in the dimmer ones

[compact bronze]

How did a3 get the best anti-tail ☠️

Wasn't it ztf

[hoary basin]

12p

[tawny elm]

13p

[lavish lark]

12p, hale bopp (inverted), 13p, ztf, Panstarrs, A3

[lavish lark]

only like 2 people shot it lol

[bright minnow]

I missed it sadly

[lavish lark]

same

[bright minnow]

I promised myself to not miss another

[lavish lark]

have you missed another?

[bright minnow]

12p

I got 1 image

But it sucks

Big time

[lavish lark]

it does count

[bright minnow]

I was like one of my first Astro targets

I was such a beginner

[bright minnow]

It doesn’t even look like pons brook

[lavish lark]

clipped unpog

[bright minnow]

I’ve only ever shot 2 comets tho

lol

[compact bronze]

the fu

[compact bronze]

eh but it looked like a needle

[bright minnow]

Technically ztf. But that was my dad. I was just kinda helping

[compact bronze]

nevermind

[lavish lark]

ive shot c/2020 f3 neowise, c/2023 h2, 12p, 62p, c/2021 s3, 144p, 13p, c/2023 a3, tried to shoot 479p but i guess it wasnt visible

[compact bronze]

this man captured walking noise too

why does media call an antitail rare

no it fkn isnt

we saw it so many times alr 💀

[lavish lark]

to be fair the 2020's have had an unusual amount of bright anti tails

[compact bronze]

yea

[bright minnow]

Has 2024 been a big year for comets @lavish lark Or can I expect this for most years ?

[lavish lark]

its been a pretty good year

2025 is dry in terms of comets

[bright minnow]

Man

[lavish lark]

large portion of the year with none above 10th mag

like several months

might be a naked eye on at the end though

[bright minnow]

Honestly a comet like olbers would be great. The ion tail looked sick

[lavish lark]

c/2024 e1

sadly earth is the worst positioned planet to view it from

[bright minnow]

Man!!?

[lavish lark]

like mars gets a better view

*in the inner solar system

*we get a better view than neptune

[bright minnow]

What about haumea

[lavish lark]

due to phenomenon known as magic haumea actually gets it brighter

than even venus

[lavish lark]

pretty crazy huh

[formal cliff]

How are the news for 2024 s1?

[tawny elm]

here

@formal cliff

[bright minnow]

I think that’s pretty outdated

By now

[lavish lark]

nah

plus since its getting harder to observe im not sure more info will even come in

[formal cliff]

Yep I saw that, I was wondering if there was more certainty on either of the possibilities

[lavish lark]

im guessing no

but its like 15 degrees from the sun right now

[hoary basin]

Comet is getting pretty faint to my eyes now but is still a 2 degree tail roughly

[lavish lark]

its at 14 degrees of elongation so not much

invisible to everybody

[wild sequoia]

why it's tail like that
someone needs to tell me what 13p is on bc I need some of it

[compact bronze]

That was an old pic

13p is gone alr

[wild sequoia]

ik

my point still stands

[compact bronze]

True

It's js solar wind

[iron tapir]

Mine not edited not staked single 4 min exposure with phone (gcam mod apk)🥲

B7

[tawny elm]

[worthy steppe]

Wow

[worthy steppe]

What tracking mount

[iron tapir]

No tracking gcam staks small exposure

@worthy steppe

[compact bronze]

gcam mod??

what phone do u have

[iron tapir]

OnePlus @compact bronze

[compact bronze]

ohh

[worthy steppe]

Wow

[worthy steppe]

It stacks and then combines and gives big exposures?

[iron tapir]

Yes

[worthy steppe]

Wahhhhahqj1o1

Send link

Pls pls pls

[balmy falcon]

Any news about the cracket comet?

[little moon]

Poofed

[wild sequoia]

i think it died

[balmy falcon]

😔

[wild sequoia]

im pretty sure it's trying to do what lovejoy did but is failing horribly

[neon viper]

lmfao why are all the youtubers just now making shorts about C/2023 A3
its like 10 days too late

[wild sequoia]

wait what lmao

[little moon]

If it was like a long report or minidocumentary like what Dylan O'Donell or AstroBackyard usually do I would understand

But yea shorts is going a bit too far

[compact bronze]

fr

[neon viper]

yea they're going "if u don't go to like B3 or smth this weekend you'll miss it!1!!1!1!" as if it wasn't far brighter and cooler the days before 😭

[lavish lark]

comets is gonna die so hard in 2025

9 MONTHS WITH NO COMETS ABOVE MAG 10

IN A ROW

[bright minnow]

its almost like bright comets are rare\

i think we just got spoiled this year

[lavish lark]

yea

2 naked eye comets in a year is pretty good

[bright minnow]

pons wasn't really naked eye tho

[lavish lark]

it got to mag 3.6 at one point

[bright minnow]

not from the southern hemisphere

it was like mag 6 when i was imaging it

[lavish lark]

it was in the north

so i guess it depends on location

[bright minnow]

btw this is the diferance between pre and post perahelion

for a3

[lavish lark]

you mean post vs pre?

[bright minnow]

yeah

its quite a boring comet tbh

i was hoping for a bright ion tail

[lavish lark]

same

[bright minnow]

2 days till s1

well

would of been

[bright minnow]

cant wait for the coronograph views tho

of a1

[lavish lark]

get to see the corpse fly in

[bright minnow]

yeah

new name idea (kamikaze comet)

[lavish lark]

cant wait for s1 to actually be in negative magnitudes because f*ck you

[bright minnow]

to be fair you wouldent of even been ableto see very well in the first place

its mainly positioned for the southern hemisphere

[lavish lark]

yeah

[bright minnow]

@lavish lark im re prossesing some old a3 data

i quite like the blown out core

whats ur opinion?

[lavish lark]

colors are good though

[bright minnow]

it was clicped to begin with

[lavish lark]

oh

[bright minnow]

less cliped tho

i made it more bright

[lavish lark]

like how much less clipped

[lavish lark]

i dont think much detail got lost lol

[bright minnow]

back then this was actualy fairly detailed

it was sooooo flat

didn't start developing detail till after perihelion

[lavish lark]

real

[bright minnow]

restacked

and its no longer cliped

and yeah

no detail

at all

[lavish lark]

a bit of nucleus shadow

[tidal kite]

Might aswell put this here

[wild sequoia]

and even then its what
mag 11
😭
God s1 and g3 better do something cool

apparently e1 weizerchos might be preparing something

[static sage]

isnt s1 just gonna disintegrate

[wild sequoia]

s1 is cooked at this point

e1 weirzerchos idk

[wild sequoia]

u think g3 is gonna live to see perihelion or is it gonna flop like s1

[static sage]

havent kept up with comets ngl

only somewhat followed a3 lol

[wild sequoia]

lol me neither
I only have pics of a3 across 3 days I could see it
even tho I couldve gone for it since the 12th

(uk activities)

[wild sequoia]

unless we get more comets like a3 coming our way* we'll have to wait until 2028 to see literally anything (22P/Kopff and 19P/Borrelly)
-# * *God I hope this is true

[little moon]

That tiny like at the bottom right

[wild sequoia]

this?

[little moon]

Yes

[wild sequoia]

yeah no way in hell that is gonna even be binoculars visible

let alone naked eye or negative mag

the noise pattern is nearly as bright as it

[lavish lark]

cracket is not making it to perihelion lmao

[wild sequoia]

and stellarium says NEGATIVE 5.23 for its perihelion

wait no not -5.23

-5.49

-# stellarium mobil the cracket comet supporter

[left pier]

80x30sec exposures from bortle 4 backyard, carbonstar 150 (needed to collimate, which is why the stars are bad), asi533 mc pro, uv/ir cut filter. Processed in pixinsight.

[somber pawn]

how would you even go about photographing 2024 s1 before its breakup since its going to live and die so close to the sun?

[tawny elm]

its dead.

[somber pawn]

ye

[tawny elm]

you cant for a while since its very close to the sun

[somber pawn]

kinda what i thought - it would have had to survive perihelion to become imagable, yeah?

[bright minnow]

Looks pretty alive to me

[compact bronze]

thats dead

[tawny elm]

its dead

[hoary mauve]

It’s also miles from the sun. Remember it comes for closest approach for literally a few hours.

[compact bronze]

yea

[bright minnow]

Do you fact check anything you say ?

[tawny elm]

Yes

[lavish lark]

has a pretty long tail (a few frames "stacked" manually)

[little moon]

Thing is that the coma is elongated because the nucleus fully fragmented

We’ll just probably see a completely deformed comet by the time it enters in LASCO 2

[wild sequoia]

and yet stellarium mobile still predicts -5.49

[little moon]

Stellarium mobile is crap

Takes very long to update

[wild sequoia]

fr
it wasn't until like 2 days before a3 perihelion they finally got the right data

[wild sequoia]

i think that's a3 not s1

[little moon]

Uh no

A3 is long past that

[wild sequoia]

and s1 is definitely NOT that

[bright minnow]

He wasn’t talking about the image above

[wild sequoia]

ª

[bright minnow]

I think

[lavish lark]

the nucleus has already been torn to shreds lol

[wild sequoia]

the shreds will be torn to shreds

[lavish lark]

my god

[wild sequoia]

stardust time

or should I say cometdust

[lavish lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShn8Ug9R5U

i can 1920s-1940s jazz any sentence

[wild sequoia]

1920s-1940s jazz this

[lavish lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n0jE_9whYY

[wild sequoia]

im going to send you into intergalactic space

[tender tree]

How did you get this?

[worthy steppe]

Any spicy comet

[steel widget]

Yoyo any major news abt comets? Did S1 survive?

[static sage]

its quite dead

[stuck knot]

Ayyyyyyyyyy

maybe brighter 🤔

That antital was actually pretty sharp

Also I thought comets were always blue/green, I guess not this one?

[stuck knot]

oooh the tip is actually blue here, that's a great shot!

[left pier]

Thank you!

[compact bronze]

composed of methane

and otehr shit

[lavish lark]

it depends on the comet

dust is white, so dust rich comets (like c/2011 l4 and neowise) dont have much in the way of blue and green

(neowise did display a notable green coma after perihelion)

[compact bronze]

we seeing it edge on

[wild sequoia]

that andgle makes it look like its gonna crash into the sun lmao

[hoary mauve]

I mean, it basically does.

[wild sequoia]

no like were not gonna see it outbound

bc it fell into the sun

[lavish lark]

nah its not hitting the sun

get close

but not hitting

[wild sequoia]

ik

it just looks like it will

[stuck knot]

Very! 😄

[bright minnow]

Orbit looks sorta like this

[wild sequoia]

i thought the whole circle was the sun 😭

[bright minnow]

Nah

[bright minnow]

That’s the disk that blocks the sun

So you can well actually see the stuff around it

[wild sequoia]

ohh ok

[bright minnow]

Sort of like an artificial solar eclipse

[bright minnow]

Annd it’s dead

[neon viper]

🫡

Rest in pepperoni, Cracket

[stuck knot]

Did it hide? 👀

[lavish lark]

no its dead

[stuck knot]

rip

How come it fell apart now?

Doesn't that happen around perihelion?

[harsh carbon]

I think it was at perihelion or at least very close

[stuck knot]

I see

Perihelion was 27 September 2024 though?

[bright minnow]

wrong comet

this one is s1

the one yout thinking of is a3

wich was indeed at perahelion on the 27th

[stuck knot]

oooh ooh

It turns out there is more than one comet at a time 😮

Thanks 😄

[wild sequoia]

whos telling them

[wild sequoia]

so much for this then lmoa

[undone epoch]

So i guess no comet of the decade

[static sage]

i was left pretty happy with a3

[formal cliff]

Except for the clouds that ruined the the best moment I was petty happy as well! My first comet except for ztf that I barely saw next to the full moon

Not an interesting dust trail and hardly any visible ion tail but the sharp antitrail was pretty

[kind cliff]

He was not the main character

[static sage]

clouds and moon were a bummer but i still saw it naked eye, first time ever, quite pleased 🎉

[formal cliff]

Same! I saw it in a glimpse between the clouds when it was still in sunset's light but amazing to see!

And I got the auroras twice so I will not complain

[bright minnow]

I only saw it naked eye. During perihelion

On sept 29

[tender tree]

Processing A3 pics rn

[worthy steppe]

How to capture comets that way

How to capture comets with sun stoppers

[hoary mauve]

Step one:
Make solar observatory.
Step 2:
Launch said solar observatory in to space. (space X will be able to assist you in this)
Step 3:
Profit?

[worthy steppe]

How do space agencies get profit?

[worthy steppe]

Added to task list

[hoary mauve]

They get the satisfaction of getting images of the sun.

[worthy steppe]

So you only invest in space agencies,space agencies can't work like a business model?

[hoary mauve]

Space exploration and whatnot is funded with tax money.
Companies like SpaceX make money from companies that get tax money paying them to launch stuff.

[worthy steppe]

Other companies pay to LAUNCH STUFF?

[compact bronze]

soho??

where tf is it now

and wgats tis'

[compact bronze]

oh welp that shit died

[compact bronze]

where r u finding these

[lavish lark]

thats a cosmic ray

[compact bronze]

oh nvm

[wild sequoia]

cosmic ray

[wild sequoia]

yeah

[proud dew]

anyone has imags of S1 being vapourised?

[lavish lark]

soho does #1160693147521777715 message

[lavish lark]

https://soho.nascom.nasa.gov/data/Theater/ or this

[proud dew]

It doesn't have the S1

[lavish lark]

thats instruments that soho has

c2 is the one where the comet died in

(narrower one)

[proud dew]

Oh ok

Oh that's a really cool tool, how did I not hear about it eirlier

[proud dew]

I was hoping for multiple fragments to fly in different directions like a blowing up meteor but it just got dimm really fast

[bright minnow]

I’m sure it did

Tbh

[proud dew]

Probably but it was to small to see

[lavish lark]

think it more just ceased to exist

[wild sequoia]

it quite literally faded out of existence

imagine the dust bits left form a meteor shower a few years later

I think 5D Borsen sid

[lavish lark]

orbit doesn't get close to earth

[wild sequoia]

aw

STELLARIUM IT DOENST EVEN EXIST ANYMORE

[static sage]

it exists, just in a few more pieces than before

[wild sequoia]

you're not wrong but I now want to make you into a few more pieces than before
-# /j /j /j /J /J /J AAAAA-

[static sage]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-shock-shocked-flabbergasted-surprised-gif-6472373116831647779

[wild sequoia]

why is the edge of the video not at the edge of the video

[eternal talon]

Because the subs are stabilized... that's why the black border appears

[wild sequoia]

ohh ok

[wild sequoia]

aadaefcrwcdwc

[compact bronze]

comet be fluctuating brightness

also its moving so slow

[icy yarrow]

Cloudz

[compact bronze]

Ohh

[lavish lark]

only 2 days or so until a3 reaches max elongation and gets the highest in the sky

long 2 and a bit month descent afterwards

[steel widget]

We need more comets to pass by 😩

[wild sequoia]

g3?

[brazen sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/electro-kingdom-black-magic-gif-19337815

[wild sequoia]

as ikeya seki said,
cracket comet did not continue the s1 legacy

-# (context: ikeya seki's full name is C/1965 S1 (Ikeya-Seki))

[steel widget]

Is that a new comet? :oo

[wild sequoia]

no it's been around quite a while
C/2024 G3 (ATLAS), go look it up

[little moon]

Actually ikeya was the only good s1

The rest just poofed lmao

Ison first, then S1

So yea S1 legacy is basically vanishing

[lavish lark]

nah theres just a new s1 legacy

because in the 2000s, ever sungrazer called s1 has died

[compact bronze]

real

[compact bronze]

haha ikea haha

[bright minnow]

Personally I can’t wait for 1p

In 2063😂

2061*

[lavish lark]

next 95p perihelion boutta be lit

[stuck knot]

How long? 😮 😮

But probably pretty dim

[lavish lark]

56.25 degrees of elongation at about 6.5th mag

[stuck knot]

56 😮 😮

That' pretty cool, not sure much of it will be visible with mag 6 😄

[little moon]

Sounds great for imaging (not rlly)

When is that for?

[lavish lark]

next 95p chiron perihelion is in 2046 at 15th magnitude

[little moon]

Oof

Yeah sucks

[lavish lark]

yeah thats the joke lol

[little moon]

Yea

[lavish lark]

man shame it doesnt approach any closer to the sun than 8.5 au

[little moon]

Oof yea

We could always send a probe so it sungrazes

Yk deflect the trajectory

[lavish lark]

actually its prolly extremely devoid of anything volitile that isnt water

[little moon]

Ah

[lavish lark]

so it would be nothing nothing nothing "hits water line"

[little moon]

Oof

[lavish lark]

once it hit the water line it would be brighter than hale bopp though

(probably)

(i dunno im not a cometologist)

(prolly a bit before the water line)

[lavish lark]

(nothing in this case being an absolute mag of 5.4 so still pretty bright)

[wild sequoia]

lmao

[wild sequoia]

wha 95 p

[lavish lark]

faint comet orbiting far away, next perihelion is 2046

15th magnitude

that is the joke

[lavish lark]

(that people would be hyped for that)

next 96p perihelion should actually be somewhat neat though

[wild sequoia]

do you notice anything off about this

[little moon]

No atmo, wrong date, sun and stars visible at the same time, weird thing much brighter than venus above the sun, etc

[compact bronze]

lmao

[wild sequoia]

dude
you're overcomplicating everything

I set the location to a3

also the sun being in cetus never crossed you as odd?

[little moon]

Fair

[stuck knot]

So you tell me this will integrate into 50° comet?? 😄

[lavish lark]

*it is 50 degrees away from the sun

not 50 degree long tail

i mean it might have a 50 degree long tail

[lavish lark]

with a surface brightness measured in photons per hour

[stuck knot]

Oh

I misunderstood xD

[lavish lark]

elongation is distance from the sun

[stuck knot]

I see

Weird name 😄

[lavish lark]

lol

[stuck knot]

It'll still be a fire photo of milky way + comet

[compact bronze]

what bortle

im jealous u were able to get that while I cant in my neighborhood 💀

[stuck knot]

like bortle 4.5

This is kinda small town, 6 second exposures, f/1.4 16mm aps-c

[compact bronze]

ohh

[compact bronze]

id be cooked wth lp in my image

prob xuz im shooting where street lamps are

[stuck knot]

Right, I would be cooked in prague

I don't think I can see milky way there ever

[compact bronze]

yea

[lavish lark]

well now what

i guess we wait another 5 years

[wild sequoia]

we only have to wait like 2 or 3
bc 19p will do the funny, even tho it'll only be 5th mag

[lavish lark]

aerith.net only puts it at 7 mag

[wild sequoia]

b r

uh what other comets are doing funny

[lavish lark]

https://www.aerith.net/comet/future-n.html not many (as shown by this page)

[lavish lark]

yeah thats normal

the site hasnt been updated since like 2005

you can just click advanced

http://www.aerith.net/comet/future-n.html thsi might work actually

(http instead of https)

[wild sequoia]

uh what about 22p

[lavish lark]

yeah that should get barely above 5th mag

[wild sequoia]

that'll maybe do then, even if it's 3 and half years away

[lavish lark]

there is c/2024 e1 in late 2025

4th-5th mag but only for southern hem

[wild sequoia]

br

let's hope another a3 happens like
idk
C/2025 C2 or something

and it perihelion in early 2026

or something

idk

[lavish lark]

wouldve likely been discovered already :(

[wild sequoia]

br

uhhh

lemme think

[lavish lark]

*i mean some comets slip through the cracks

[wild sequoia]

C/2025 H1?

[lavish lark]

*c/2023 p1 was a good example

[wild sequoia]

I feel like h would be uhh June or july

and then that would prehelion late 2026

[bright minnow]

What about g3?

Like I mean you can’t see it

I will be able to

Quite easily

(Southern hemisphere flex)

[compact bronze]

wasnt S1 also one

[wild sequoia]

s1 died

[compact bronze]

that wasnt the point tho

S1 was discovered 1-2 months before perihelion

or death date

[lavish lark]

im like 80% sure it had an outburst prior to being discovered

[compact bronze]

wheres the evidence

[lavish lark]

because its both probably not surviving and even if it does survive it still sucks lol

[lavish lark]

the fact it didn't get much brighter until the next outburst (which is bad) and the fact that it had outbursts at all

[compact bronze]

outbursts prob meant it was gonna die

https://tenor.com/view/anger-inside-out-rage-flames-gif-13478569

[lavish lark]

yea

[bright minnow]

If it survives it’s probably gonna get pretty bright

path looks alright too

(i think your just salty you cant see it in the north)

[lavish lark]

have you checked in stellarium?

because i have

even if it gets much brighter than expected

its still at best a 4th to 10th mag object on getting to 25 degrees of elongation

[bright minnow]

4th mag. Is still good

Bruh

I think you’ve been spoiled

[lavish lark]

not for naked eye when its 5 degrees above the horizon lol

[bright minnow]

(in the northen hemisphere

[lavish lark]

no in the south

g3 sucks

[bright minnow]

YOU SUCK

Also I was checking Stellarium

And the Chinese photobombed me

[lavish lark]

random place in aus, 3 degrees above the horizon

already 5.7th mag

[steel widget]

Isn't stellarium a bit inaccurate with comet magnitudes?

[lavish lark]

yea

(in this case its pretty accurate though)

[steel widget]

Ah alright

[wild sequoia]

at least you can see it

[lavish lark]

yep chats dead

[compact bronze]

hahahahaah like itll be visible for me 😭

[wild sequoia]

h

[compact bronze]

e

[lavish lark]

l

[night wave]

i

[compact bronze]

c

[topaz fulcrum]

o

[night wave]

p

[lavish lark]

t

[topaz mauve]

e

[bright minnow]

R

[iron tapir]

Unity

[wild sequoia]

an unexpected surprise

[proud dew]

just wait for another big comet, they apper to come about once a year

[lavish lark]

the next one that has a good chance of surviving is c/2024 e1, at the end of 2025

2025 has several months in a row with nothing above 10th mag

its southen only and has a peak mag of 4th or so

[proud dew]

half a year ago i thought comets are like once in a lifetime things, one every 50yrs and nos if only it wasn't desintegrated by the sun we wuld have 2 in one month

[bright minnow]

They happen all the time

We had 3 good ones this year

12p. 13p. A3

[lavish lark]

i mean it depends how bright you want a comet how often they come

naked eye is yearly or so

15th mag is always

3rd mag or brighter is approximately every 5 years

[lavish lark]

some rarely seen photos of arend roland

(sourced from https://britastro.org/cometobs/1956r1/thumbnails.html )

[lavish lark]

looking ahead to 333p linear in december, looks like the bright inner core (might) be around 13.8th mag (total mag of 9.8 or so) (this is the previous apparition)

*i very well could be interpreting that graph wrong

[wild sequoia]

o

[jagged valley]

c

[little moon]

d

[jagged valley]

https://tenor.com/view/gameboyluke-luke-ocd-it-mess-with-my-ocd-gif-15553648

[wild sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-gif-5905383590491631716

,

[tall crane]

Is this what comet chat has become

[lavish lark]

somehow despite my attempts to keep it on topic all my threads devolve into shitposting lol

[wild sequoia]

yes

reaper bird shall conquer

[lavish lark]

can you not tho

like i want comets to be pure and about comets

[jagged valley]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dogecoin-meteor-comet-moon-gif-26587459

https://tenor.com/view/nishimura-cometa-comet-gif-12333904648978343076

[compact bronze]

Skibidi Ohio comet

[lavish lark]

can i not have one serious thread????

[compact bronze]

no

[wild sequoia]

nah
when a thread is dying we'll use just about anything to keep it alive

[undone epoch]

Yeah, anyway i tried imaging the comet and it became so tiny

Guiding didnt work so i gave up on imaging

[hoary basin]

what comet is that ?

[neon viper]

He's a big chungus He's a big chunky boi Such a big bun, yes We are so overjoyed To have a big chunky boi A big and wonderful chungus such as he Oh such as he He's a big chungus He's a big chunky boi Such a big bun, yes We are so overjoyed To have a big chunky boi A big and wonderful chungus such as he Oh such as he Huh Buns come in all shapes and all sizes This one has so many surprises I've never seen a giant quite like him There's no one like him Nobody like chungus Huh Get the game for PS4 For a limited time Huh Don't miss what it has in store You're running out of time Play the game of the year The game with that colossal boi He's a big chungu

i hate myself

[reef nimbus]

Is A3 still worth it to image

[tame minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-meme-reaction-emoji-nops-gif-15657180555152423963

[reef nimbus]

Ok sanku

[tame minnow]

its abt mag 8-9 rn i think

[reef nimbus]

Dangerous

[wild sequoia]

if 333p gets perihelion before it reaches mag 10 I'll go for both
-# /j lmoa

[lavish lark]

id say yes if you missed it

[reef nimbus]

Yep I did

[little moon]

C/2023 P1 (Nishimura) on September 2nd

[lavish lark]

i keep on forgetting nishimura exists

[reef nimbus]

What that

[steel widget]

a comet im guessing

[iron tapir]

Any comets that I can capture with my phone

[lavish lark]

like with a telescope?

or just bare phone

[iron tapir]

No scope

Only phone

[lavish lark]

no sadly

a3 was in october

[iron tapir]

A3 I got it

Phone

[lavish lark]

yep

so far no comets like a3 have been discovered yet

[iron tapir]

Crop

[lavish lark]

*in terms of brightness

[iron tapir]

Yeah

I like comets

[lavish lark]

real

maybe c/2024 g3?

[iron tapir]

Easy to capture

[lavish lark]

that one is probably just poofing apart though

[iron tapir]

It's too close to the horizon

[lavish lark]

rip

[iron tapir]

From my area

[lavish lark]

i guess theres halley

[iron tapir]

Bruh

Like after it's gonna visible on like 2067 or close i think

[lavish lark]

*2061

[iron tapir]

Oh yeah

I mother told she has seen it

[lavish lark]

neat

hope to see 12p again before i perish

but 2095 is pretty far away

[wild sequoia]

hey how bright is 333p rn

[lavish lark]

12th mag or so right now

peak of 10th mag or so

[wild sequoia]

oh k

[lavish lark]

sadly its quite diffuse at max so the brightest part would likely be around 13th mag (compared to the 9.8th mag of all of it)

[lavish lark]

if the hdr astronomy tail simulation became public I would mess around with it an for an unreasonable amount of time

https://hdr-astrophotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/mcnaught.gif

this thing

like im messing with this (https://www.comet-toolbox.com/FP.html) and this is crude in comparison

[hoary basin]

[lavish lark]

thats mcnaught lol

already happened lol

[wild sequoia]

br

[lavish lark]

it says 2007 in the corner my gamer

[wild sequoia]

ik

this makes for a great ss lmao

[static sage]

really doesnt

[hoary basin]

Ik

[wild sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/silencing-the-evil-shut-up-cat-spam-gif-12771978950366181258

silence

[static sage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/907659269250355220/922775732516696114/speed.gif

[wild sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-sans-snow-esqueleton-skeleton-gif-16104028

[lavish lark]

im gonna launch pluto into a sungrazing orbit just to get yall to talk about comets

[steel widget]

Love how quickly people go back to shitposting

[icy yarrow]

its the national state of this forum

https://tenor.com/view/someone-hacked-my-phone-what-is-this-cat-gif-26143081

[lavish lark]

id rather it not be though

like theres polls and t coronae borealis

[wild sequoia]

not as many ppl are checking t crb often bc they know its not gonna boom for a while

more ppl checking comets because new comets can be discovered, some of which might have the potential to become bright

[lavish lark]

"made" a "simulation" of c/2024 g3's tail during perihelion, no idea how accurate it will be, (dont know how light it assumes the dust is, dont know how accurate the dust lifetime is, especially since the dust lifetime changes with time, and i cant do that kinda math in my head, or in general)

[compact bronze]

no

WAY lower

nvm 8.6

[wild sequoia]

br

[subtle geyser]

Ask him! He is very nice but may say no because it has no interface or something

[lavish lark]

ive already emailed him once about making it public and its a well known fact you can't email people more than once

[subtle geyser]

Yeah it does take him a while to respond,

No one checks their email everyday anymore

I waited a month then sent him another email and apologized if he had already received it and my old email just got lost in spam

[lavish lark]

did you use the questions thingy

that got me a response in like 3 days

[lavish lark]

https://hdr-astrophotography.com/contact/

[subtle geyser]

Yes

[lavish lark]

skill issue on your part then ig

[reef nimbus]

When is the next bright comet coming

):

I now have a power station and can image comets

[lavish lark]

how bright?

[reef nimbus]

Idk? Mag 4 maybe

Or lower

[lavish lark]

in the northern hemisphere (that i know of) the next already discovered one is halley in 2061

next one that might get kinda bright is 22p in 2028 (for the northern hemisphere)

c/2024 e1 gets to 5th mag in early 2026 but thats only south

technially c/2024 g3 might get that bright

[reef nimbus]

Damn

There’s no chance for 2025?

Or nobody knows?

[lavish lark]

small chance of c/2024 g3 overperforming and being that bright for southerners

but pretty much not known

[reef nimbus]

Damn

[orchid inlet]

it is hard to predict comets yk

[lavish lark]

theres also just none discovered yet lol

comet prediction isnt too bad for something like neowise

[orchid inlet]

yeah

that too

but tjat makes them exiting, unexpected and beautiful

[lavish lark]

i mean a3 was expected lol

performed pretty close to predictions

[orchid inlet]

mots of them are unpredictable

but big ones lile this are easy to calculate trajectpry yk

if it is ot its not going to vaniah by the sun

[lavish lark]

?

if you go by like the 5000 comets soho has discovered they all die and thats predictable

if you go by the other average comet, it gets to like 16th mag and survives

[orchid inlet]

dont you remember the last comet? there was a poll if it will survive or not

[lavish lark]

c/2024 s1?

[orchid inlet]

i think so

[lavish lark]

yea that was a sungrazer that dispalyed weird behavior

[orchid inlet]

that one that was annoingly close to sun

[lavish lark]

by the 18th of october its fate was pretty close to being sealed

[wild sequoia]

God I hope we get another a3

[lavish lark]

halley in 2061

hopefully a different one comes earlier

[wild sequoia]

that's what I mean
I hope we get another a3 that comes around... like literally any time within the next 5 years would be fine

[lavish lark]

yeah i know that lol

[wild sequoia]

yk what screw it
imma just slap a comet name and see if it gets bright 3 years down the line
uhhh
c/2025 h2

[lavish lark]

so that would be discovered around april, lemme roll some random number generators for a 2026 apparition

[lavish lark]

its not naked eye and on the wrong side of the sun

[wild sequoia]

imagine there actually ends up being a c/2025 h2

[wild sequoia]

ouh

[lavish lark]

pretty likely actually

[wild sequoia]

would it be possible for an end of 2025 apparition?

[lavish lark]

no that would make it dimmer (without a very close earth encounter)

comets tend to get discovered around 21st mag

[wild sequoia]

ouh

[lavish lark]

so the farther away it is from perihelion the more intrinsically bright it is

(on average)

[wild sequoia]

hmm lemme think

what about a c/2026 q1

[wild sequoia]

should there be a c/2025 h2 I will refer you to this convo

[lavish lark]

my hope is in c/2025 a1 atlas

discovered on january 6th

[wild sequoia]

o

dam predicting to the day already

[lavish lark]

my 2nd hope is that its a sungrazer with an absolute magnitude of 2

[wild sequoia]

you said a c2025 h2 would be discovered in April right

[lavish lark]

around that time

dont know the letters by heart

[wild sequoia]

wait lemme check

[wild sequoia]

I'm back
a is first half of January
b is second half
c is first half of Feb
etc etc

so h would be

uhh

second half of april

so I'm betting for a c/2025 h2
uhh
April 29th

[reef nimbus]

Hopefully we get a bright comet in 2025

Even mag5-6 should be okay bruh

[jagged valley]

Messing with colour

[lavish lark]

ah so c/2024 e1

for people in the southern hem

*technically its like febuary 2026

[reef nimbus]

Bruh

Australians

[lavish lark]

i forgot the southern hemisphere exists outside of australia :((

oh I also spelled it wrong

damn you autocorrect autocorrecting to the wrong spelling

[bright minnow]

Keep me out of this

[lavish lark]

no i was talking about the other australian

[icy yarrow]

Texas

[reef nimbus]

chicken

[versed jasper]

meow

[wild sequoia]

s

[lavish lark]

https://www.astrobin.com/full/x5ssrl/C/ oh zamn

[wild sequoia]

where is olbers

ujbthavghcjf

in that pic*

[tall crane]

i think its here

[lavish lark]

bump

[icy yarrow]

Bro is doing what you are supposed to do when no one reacts to your post in #1023613540587810846 😭

[lavish lark]

i needed a screenshot of the comets thread and didnt feel like scrolling

[wild sequoia]

s

[lavish lark]

no

comets is the one serious channel

[steel widget]

☄️

[neon viper]

nuuuuu!!1!11

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738355318383312919/1313137071229112380/image0.gif

[wild sequoia]

s for s1 (rip)

[lavish lark]

ohhhhh thats what cauused that (maybe)

my theory is striations (like in the image above) in the dust trail that forms the anti tail

not sure how accurate that theory is

but eh

[night wave]

are brighter comets (absolute mag not visually) more likely to have an anti tail?

[lavish lark]

not really

*a little bit

[night wave]

ah i see

so anti tails are basically random

[lavish lark]

its about having dust at the time of the orbital plane crossing

thats the orbital plane

[lavish lark]

actually comet hyakutake (c/1996 b2) is a good example of this

[night wave]

ohhhhh\

[lavish lark]

earth intersected the orbital plane just like it did for a3

but no anti tail was visible due to not having enough dust to form one

*i still dont know entirely why anti tails form

[night wave]

ah okay i understand em know more or less yipee

[compact bronze]

small olbers

[compact bronze]

its an illusion

they dont form

tail spreads out and it looks different in our pov

[hoary mauve]

My theory is it’s like that because of the way it is.

[lavish lark]

thats prolly more likely lol

[lavish lark]

aware of that

[wild sequoia]

afaik it's probably dust left from the comets path, too heavy to be blown behind it

[lavish lark]

aware of that as well

[lavish lark]

I think hale bopp may have deserved the win because it had several anti tails visible throughout its time being bright lol

(that was in december 97)

its not a classical anti tail though

[lavish lark]

oh hell yeah, more comet tail simulations

this is probably a sign i need to check my email more often

[wild sequoia]

wait if we intersected a3's orbit does that mean a3 meteor shower

[lavish lark]

no, the tail did not extend far enough out

[wild sequoia]

awh

[lavish lark]

have an image of hyakutake that you certainly havent seen before

[reef nimbus]

Kewl

[lavish lark]

g3 from today, whatever happens to this comet will be quick