Mineral and HDR Moon

[fervent falcon]

Hi, heres my most recent try on moon. I shot about 1000 RAWs and stacked 70% of it. So there should be the minerals of the moon, but unfortunatly I don't own Photoshop, so I cant get them out. It would be really nice if someone owning it could try getting them out. Following you'll find a sharpened version and a normal stack:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-KjSGhz_Fzzzmz6eLRztV3w_NSM0AdpG?usp=sharing

[obtuse glen]

Did you debayer the shots? i am asking because oversaturating it brings no blue. It's as if it was greyscale

[fervent falcon]

Yes I did it. When oversaturating it just gets purple at the edges

I never tried it before, so I'm pretty new to planetary

[obtuse glen]

with what did you shoot?

[fervent falcon]

I used an unmodified Nikon Z50

With an 10" at 1200mm focal length Dob btw

[obtuse glen]

extra: in what did you stack?

[fervent falcon]

Autostakkert

I didn't use dss of course

[obtuse glen]

hmm it looks as if it was taken as pure greyscale and just converted to 50-50-50 rgb

[fervent falcon]

Hm thats weird. In the tutorials no settings were changed.

[obtuse glen]

i would try a debayer with pipp and then run autostakkert maybe

the alternative would be that the rgb is in perfect balance in all your shots and i totally refuse that idea 😄

[fervent falcon]

Thats what I did. But I could try it again tomorrow, I did it a while ago, so I can't be 100% sure...

But yeah, probably pipp is the stage where the problem gets caused

[sweet lion]

If you use PIPP, you need to close the "convert monochrome" setting.

[distant dagger]

yeah definitely something funny going on, it doesn't appear to be monochrome, but after hitting max saturation about 5 times, there are some pretty weird artefacts, with no sign of any mineral colour. it could be buried under the colour noise, or just non existing in a pre-proc stage channel combination? not sure

i even tried doing colour denoise and binning it (to remove the artefacts which look to come from debayering)

no luck

could you send through maybe about 15 of your aligned RAWs in a drive?

ill try stacking them manuall in Ps, which is what i do for my mineral moons

the central mineral moon here is a stack of only 8 single frames

if you zoom in you can see some nice details too in the centre

but your details are much better still

[sweet lion]

Dude, can I create a Mineral Moon with only a 18-55 kit lens?

[distant dagger]

show me ur current photos

[fervent falcon]

Ok thanks for trying. I'll look soon, but now I can narrow it a lot more down, GIMP isn't the Problem then

[distant dagger]

is this stacked or a single

also are u in focus that looks way too oversampled for such a blurry image

i think u probably could get the mineral colours

[fervent falcon]

I deactivated monochrome, and now it looks much better. I uploaded the new one on google drive, if someone wants to give it a try.

Wow thats much to saturated. It looks completely different on my main monitor 🤯

[fervent falcon]

I like this one a bit more

[sweet lion]

When I sature it, Moon's color turns orange.

How can I fix that?

[fervent falcon]

Really nice, thank you. It looks much better than mine, I really need to reedit it. But I also have the problem, that I always get it orange. Probably watching a few tutorials will fix it

[distant dagger]

just use white balance to correct it

[forest surge]

Amazing data

[fervent falcon]

Wow that looks really nice. I'll try to edit it today myself. Last time I was to stupid to correct the white balance...

[forest surge]

This was from my scope 💀 its trash because less subs and aperture

[forest surge]

I first ran the frames through pipp then stacked in autostakkert and then sharpened in registax and brought out the colours in Photoshop using camera raw filter

[fervent falcon]

Ok thanks. I'm using GIMP, there correcting the white balance is a bit more difficult.

[fervent falcon]

Yeah, I think I took more frames than needed. But yours is still nice.

[forest surge]

Nah its really bad 💀

Messing around with it in Photoshop 👌

[fervent falcon]

The CA are bad, but otherwise...

[forest surge]

Well theres no way yo fix it

[fervent falcon]

That looks unnatural

I want to photograph the full moon next time, so I can make a HDR Moon...

[forest surge]

I appreciate it

[forest surge]

Alright

[distant dagger]

LMAO WHAT IS THIS

[fervent falcon]

Could I use your image (for Instagram…)? Anyhow I don‘t get the colours so nice, even after correcting the white balance it‘s still to orange. Maybe GIMP just isn‘t as good as Photoshop. Other option is a lack of skill, probably its a combination of both.

[forest surge]

Absolutely 👍

[forest surge]

Something 💀

[fervent falcon]

Ok thanks

[fervent falcon]

I managed to get fullmoon tonight. I didn't take as much frames as last time, because in HDR moon it'll be just in background anyways.

This is a quick edit.

Mineral and HDR Moon

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-KjSGhz_Fzzzmz6eLRztV3w_NSM0AdpG?usp=sharing

Thats the data if anyone wants to give it a try. I'll play a bit with it now.

The difference in size between the full moon and half moon is clearly visible. The newer full moon is much bigger, probably because there was harvest super moon recently

[fervent falcon]

New edit

[tranquil arrow]

We do not support nasty green

Good looking image

[cerulean belfry]

Here is my mineral edit. no clue how to do an HDR version tho

[cerulean belfry]

How do you even align this? lmao

[fervent falcon]

You can‘t do it accurate. Thats because the moon „wobbles“ a bit. But if you make the full moon dark enough, it isn‘t that obvious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCKmZXhVvkQ

HDR moon isn‘t so accurate, thats true, but still HDR moon looks nice, I‘d say

[fervent falcon]

Looks good

[cerulean belfry]

Thanks mate, good to know! I'll give it another shot tonight. I did know about the wobble, but your looks so great I didn't even notice

[fervent falcon]

Thanks 👍 btw the sizes of the moon are different in the images too. I guess its because of the orbit of it (I didn‘t check that), I shot them with many weeks difference (they weren‘t shot in the same cycle)

[cerulean belfry]

Oh that's good to know, would like to try this myself when the weather allows me

[cerulean belfry]

@fervent falcon Gave it another shot. I think I get it now, the data is really nice to work with if you do this for the first time

[fervent falcon]

Looks really good 👍

[cerulean belfry]

This one is a bit better. had an orange edge that looked kinda weird

[fervent falcon]

Yeah, Idk what caused it, I had that problem too, must've been my scope.

[cerulean belfry]

What telescope did you use? I thought it was some actifact from saturation the data too much

[fervent falcon]

I used a 10" Skywatcher Newt

[cerulean belfry]

hmm weird, I won't expect weird edges from a newt

[fervent falcon]

Yeah, but the artifact must be already existing before, you just make it visible... I didn't know that was possible too.

[sly peak]

I've always took a sequence of images using my d7200 and 8" dob, then selected the best frame, bring it in Photoshop and use Camera RAW filter to boost saturation + color noise reduction.

Usually older DSLRs can record raws at higher than 5-8 fps in burst mode so not quite as beneficial as high frame rates on planetary cams.

Single frame for mineral colors and glow added in PS

Ahh

Looks like you guys got it sorted out

Messages weren't all loaded for me

[sly peak]

Very nice