I just want a cheap telescope that should be good for a beginner like me (40$)
#is this a good beginner cheap telescope
quick sleet
I dont have much information
quick sleet
I dont know nothing about the telescope
The seller didnt say much
I need to ask him
inner shuttle
I dont know nothing about the telescope
can u see the link above?
quick sleet
Yes
inner shuttle
did you look at it
quick sleet
No
inner shuttle
like click on it
inner shuttle
No
that is your scope
the link I put
It seems it's missing some bits
like the phone holder
inner shuttle
are u sure?
quick sleet
No
inner shuttle
quick sleet
But do you think the one in the photo is good for 43 dollars
novel kindle
uhhhh 1 min
inner shuttle
sorry for pinging you
inner shuttle
uhhhh 1 min
sure
inner shuttle
But do you think the one in the photo is good for 43 dollars
what do you want to see with the scope?
do you know?
quick sleet
Planets and a bit of deep space
inner shuttle
Planets and a bit of deep space
ah...
what's your max budget?
quick sleet
Idk
inner shuttle
because of how small the aperture is, you might not be able to do dso
for beginners a dob is reccomended
quick sleet
But too expensive
novel kindle
I just want a cheap telescope that should be good for a beginner like me (40$)
The tube is fine for planets/moon at least, smaller 70mm aperture, but I think its similar to a 76mm 700 reflector as it doesn't have anything blocking the light in the tube. Not sure about mount but it could be a pain to use. Price is pretty nice if you can't afford anything more. Step up from this is something like a z114 or orion starblast or a 114/900 reflector(can make one if you have a 3d printer look up hadley).
dry kernel
for beginners a dob is reccomended
a lot more expensive than the scope here
inner shuttle
a lot more expensive than the scope here
that's why I asked what his budget is
quick sleet
For me because i want to get one now
I dont want to save up that much
Because i cant wait anymote
Anymore*
dry kernel
I dont want to save up that much
if you don't wanna spend a lot then this scope will give okay views of the planets and the moon, but be sure to have a look at the 3D printed Hadley scope as that would be significantly better
dry kernel
just keep in mind that whilst this scope is good for the price, compared to other scopes it isn't brilliant. the mount probably will be wobbly and hard to use, and the aperture is quite limiting
dry kernel
I dont have a 3d printer
libraries sometimes do, and if not someone you know might
quick sleet
libraries sometimes do, and if not someone you know might
Yeah where i live 3d printers are very hard to finf
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I have binoculars
novel kindle
I dont want to save up that much
well, you are under the "price to performance" peak. that is a nice price for what you are getting, but it's not going to be that great. Maybe could get a 114/900, but I'd say the 70mm is alright, just the mount is probably not going to be fun to use, might want to remove the diagonal mirror to see if it improves the view, and the eyepieces aren't that great.
dry kernel
I have binoculars
for deep sky objects those will be better than the telescope
well, probably, what binoculars are they?
quick sleet
Celestron skymaster 25x70
novel kindle
Celestron skymaster 25x70
damn those are pretty good, basically double the light collection of the 70mm refractor I think,
inner shuttle
@quick sleet what about this?:
https://www.amazon.com/Zhumell-Portable-Altazimuth-Reflector-Telescope/dp/B07CD3MS17/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2MDO5ZSBKLEHC&keywords=zhumell+z100&qid=1685192004&sprefix=zhumell+z10%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-3
too much?
dry kernel
Celestron skymaster 25x70
if you haven't already have a look at a tripod to put them on. those will be better than the telescope
quick sleet
I have a tripod
novel kindle
if you haven't already have a look at a tripod to put them on. those will be bet...
not going to have higher magnification for planets through.
inner shuttle
you could...
but the scope might get a bit annoying
the mount
@quick sleet did you look at the link above?
novel kindle
But i can use de telescope for planets and binoculars for deepsku
sure, but planets benefit a lot from bigger aperture(size of lens/mirror) as doubling aperture allows you to see details twice as small if the atmosphere allows it.
quick sleet
Shloud i search for another one?
dry kernel
not going to have higher magnification for planets through.
that's true yeah. i'd say to stick with the binos for now though until a better planetary scope comes up
quick sleet
Ok i will searh more and if i find something i will tell you
novel kindle
Shloud i search for another one?
I'd try to get a 114mm one with a long tube(don't get ones with a tube half the scopes focal length those are bird jones, so have a short focal length spherical mirror resulting in much less details on planets and have a lens in the focuser which makes collimation a pain).
quick sleet
Oh i forgot to tell that i have a streetlamp that is right where i sit and idk how to get rid of the light
novel kindle
Shloud i search for another one?
hm also do you have any woodworking experience? An option is to get a 114/900 mirror from aliexpress or somewhere else for cheap and DIY the tube/base.
inner shuttle
@novel kindle what about a table top dob?
novel kindle
<@321956957588291584> what about a table top dob?
as long as it's parabolic sure, I had a spherical 76mm/350mm one and it was absolute garbage due to spherical abberation. actually i saw a 80mm one let me find it
inner shuttle
as long as it's parabolic sure, I had a spherical 76mm/350mm one and it was abso...
zhumell z100?
is that a good one?
novel kindle
zhumell z100?
pretty sure it's parabolic so sure. I think the eyepieces aren't that great, and not sure if you can collimate that one
quick sleet
hm also do you have any woodworking experience? An option is to get a 114/900 mi...
No
I didnt find anything
quick sleet
No but ebay isnt used in my country and i want to have a look at the telescope before buying
novel kindle
No but ebay isnt used in my country and i want to have a look at the telescope b...
if you are in the UK you can have a look on astrobuy and sell, or gumtree, but I'm guessing you aren't
quick sleet
I am not in the UK
inner shuttle
No but ebay isnt used in my country and i want to have a look at the telescope b...
are there any astronamy clubs near you
inner shuttle
they'll help to find out about scopes and they might even loan you one
quick sleet
I didnt look but i know there are not any
And i dont know if i can even buy the telescope
inner shuttle
what country/city do you live in
i could look for you
inner shuttle
dm me it if you want to
inner shuttle
I live in europe
Europes quite big yk
quick sleet
But do you live in europe
inner shuttle
But do you live in europe
yes
quick sleet
Or in other continent
inner shuttle
UK
inner shuttle
that's why I said Europes big
if you don't want to it's fine
your choice obviously
but an astro club will help you alot
versed pumice
but an astro club will help you alot
What that can i know?
inner shuttle
What that can i know?
so there are astronamy clubs and they're a club bout scopes practically
you can ask questions and if they're kind use other peoples scopes
quick sleet
if you don't want to it's fine
Even if i want i cant
inner shuttle
Even if i want i cant
ahh...
did you research bout what scope you want
quick sleet
Yes
inner shuttle
like I researched and knew I wanted a dob
quick sleet
Probably a reflector
novel kindle
I live in europe
Could't find find a better deal on the same site you were searching(figured it out from the image). I think the 70mm refractor is nice for the price, there is a 100mm dob but its for like twice the price. Basically not spending a lot to get an ok telescope so later on you could get something better anyway.
quick sleet
What site
quick sleet
Could't find find a better deal on the same site you were searching(figured it o...
So is it worth it
Yup
If you want delete it
But
novel kindle
So is it worth it
If all you want to do is look at the planets and double stars, should be fine for the price. If you can save up for a 114/900 or a 114mm parabolic dob its definetly worth it.
inner shuttle
Should i save up
if you can
inner shuttle
But do i delete this post
nah keep it
if you find a better scope you can just ask on here again
quick sleet
Ok
novel kindle
Should i save up
there is a 100/400 Heritage Dob which would be quite a bit better but its 2.5x the price.
quick sleet
But is a cheap telescope worth it like 80$ or a bit more
novel kindle
would also want a barlow for planetary uses
quick sleet
would also want a barlow for planetary uses
2x?
novel kindle
But is a cheap telescope worth it like 80$ or a bit more
eh depends, i'd get the 70mm if you could get a nice scope later on, if this scope is meant to last a longer time definetly worth spending more
novel kindle
2x?
with the 100mm aperture you'd ideally want to get upto 200x magnification, while the 70mm would only allow you to go upto 140x
quick sleet
The next month i will have like 140 dollars
novel kindle
oh get the 100mm one then for sure.
novel kindle
Ok
also it's a long shot but some libraries loan out telescopes, could give that a go for a night.
inner shuttle
also it's a long shot but some libraries loan out telescopes, could give that a ...
that's not a thing in the UK
might not be a thing in some countries in Europe too
novel kindle
2x?
oh also if you don't know magnification = telescope focal length divided by eyepiece mm times barlow power, so with that heritage dob, 10mm eyepiece and a 2x barlow you'd get: 400/10 * 2 = 80x magnification. You can also add extra spacers between the barlow and the eyepiece to make it more powerful(magnify more).
quick sleet
Ok bye
inner shuttle
cya
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