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Bortle 9
I use a QHY533c camera
SWSAGTI Mount
And WO spacecat 51 scope
No filter and no guiding
Nice data
@hybrid tiger I can't send it here because it's 883MB
Should I use Google Drive?
Wait I can crop the vignetting immediatly so it's a smaller file
U have to use Google drive yes
@potent dove just put the raw file in drive
There’s no other way
I'm uploading it
Give it a few minutes
Let me know when you start processing it
Alright bro thanks
@hybrid tiger any progress?
ive thought about going for meteorology as well but im a tad dumb 
Hey me too! My gpa is trash but I’m still gettin the degree. 😄
Because of the lack of meteorology students, the job market is fairly open. Not a super lucrative major though.
I’d only recommend it if you truly love weather and that’s fulfilling.
Didn’t process yet sorry
I’m out
Lol
I’m also quite interested in meteorology
Hey I worked really hard on it it took me 3 months to make
If you ever wanna know more just ask! Both me and my girlfriend are weather nuts. She use to storm chase and is currently getting her Masters and im a simple undergraduate dunce
dang
did she chase any of the infamous ones?
Nah she stuck to the northern Texas Oklahoma area most of the time
Some nice shelf’s and cells but that’s about it
Oh that’s cool!thanks
I also like trying to predict the weather
I’m always updated on storm news too
I am crumbling at the seams
In other news I've started saving for a proper mount, maybe an HEQ5
I should be able to get it in a paycheck
Noice
Gl man
That’s a great mount
i enjoy thunderstorms and storms in general, have cycled after a good few during the summers here
Ah me too! That’s my favorite section of meteorology
I’m still a beginner sometimes 🥺
im a beginner to tracked imaging
I’m a beginner to mono
I've a question
Has someone here used a 72ED from SW? I'm currently saving up for an apo refractor
if there's one thing you can and should learn immediately, its stacking
I don’t stack
then I recommend getting software to do so
it's probably the single most useful ability in astrophotography
DeepSkyStacker is a simple and effective one
I only have a apple laptop
and thats fine
there's other software
I believe Siril works
but thats a bit more complicated to use in terms of stacking
Wait but I take these pictures on my phone how do I send it to my laptop
I mean you could just plug it directly in
alr good luck
I think there are softwares to stack that can be installed on smartphones too
Hey friends! Is there any secret trick to figure out what ISO to use for deep sky targets? Or is it all trial and error? (I live in a pretty heavily light polluted location if that helps)
depends too much on equipment to really have a perfect number
trial and error works
like a 30s bare phone exposure would be like 100 iso compared to the 3200 of a 0.5s telescope frame
ooh ok thank you! I was really hoping there was a trick 😅 I'm shooting with an untracked dob + on my phone so it's such a pain to trial and error with image stacking
thanks! hopefully it doesn't reject over 50% of my frames like last time 
simply get double the frames 
what should one actually study/learn for the field? quite clueless about what it actually entails
Well it’s very very math and physics intensive. So that’s gonna be your foundation.
Past that, meteorology itself is its own deeper science that has a multitude of facets. From climatology and pollution chemistry to forecasting and thermodynamics, each subset has its own set of distinct requirements or learning objectives.
I’m very fortunate to have found myself at one of the best universities in the nation for Meteorology, with its own dedicated and specific program.
math 
Me too 💀
Bruh math is beatiful
I spent 2-3 years just dedicated to maths before I was in deeper meteorology utilizing them
dont think thats gonna be for me then, math fries my brain real quickly
math is for lame nerds, not the cool nerd
I disagree a lot. Math is everything. The issue is that the math they teach in school is just arithmetic and that's boring as hell
Hey @quaint vector what kind of iso do you think I should if I’m gonna go for a long exposure across multiple nights?
So far I’ve been using 6400, but I worry that across 3-5 hours of exposure it’ll blow out the brighter lights.
should I lower it or does it really matter
What bortle? What cam?
Bortle 7, zv-e10
Don’t know much about that cam but 6400 is quite high yea
Keep it under especially in light pollution
What do you think is a decent range?
I know with the more photos I take it’ll be fine and won’t blow it out as much
Maybe 1600-3200
Check the noise your camera's sensor makes with that ISO
There's a website called "photons to light" that is helpful
I think it's called like that at least
What am I lookin at
PDR 6400 is 5.22
Photographic dynamic range is not the spec you should look at
Check reading noise first
The higher the iso the lower reading noise is I think
But reading noise is just part of the issue
Fair game just curious to know what numbers to watch out for
I unfortunately don't remember the name of the thing you should be looking for
I thought I did but I don't lol
Yeah try 3200
I’m trying to stack a bunch before Christmas here to make a Christmas gift
Yes, my bad. Forgot about that site
use the ISO options in that regions, basically 400-3200
doesnt matter too much which you choose from there, as long as your exposures come out good (histogram peak a third to half way to the right, no peaks on the right side touching the histogram wall)
Thanks! I’ll give 3200 a try!
Any tips for stacking across multiple nights??
Bit late to the convo since I'm rotting from strep but I usually use a pretty low ISO like 800 when imaging for a while. As for the stacking, take calibration frames, they will absolutely help any anomalies that would show up like dust or vignetting
I shoot untracked with my telescope so I can only really go for about .6 seconds. Is 800 too low with that in mind?
if you're planning to collect a ton of data, not really
Trying for minimum 6000 frames
most people go down to 400-100 ISO
Hmm
for longer projects
Fair game
see if you can find a good balance in your SNR
you obviously dont want noise, but you also want as much signal as possible
What’s SNR
Signal to Noise Ratio
ah those charts yesterday
With only .6 seconds of exposure I'd use a high iso
For 20" subs I use ISO1600
It also means standing wave ratio if you're into radio
I’ve been told I have the voice for it
But that’s about it
😂
Wait there no w :(
quick little night 1 process. No where close to the amount of exposure I want, but decent
gonna go out again tonight and get more stacks
already as good as, if not better than my best orion data
really nice 
Thanks! That’s very kind
Off topic, but I think I'm gonna throw a chair
This stupid shift knob decided to slightly disassemble itself while I was driving
I figured out how to put it back together, however I may have just made reassembling it 50 times harder
I do that for shits n giggles w my Toyota at long lights
Cant help
Just start poking n prodding
See I can't do that because I risk grenading whatever plastic is covering the thing I'm tinkering with
pretty wild CA on the stars, also a little green but sharpness and stretch is pretty nice
Yeah sadly that's my telescope
It's really egregious, but hey that's what a $150 rig on ebay gets ya
😂
one day I shall buy something nice :3
should be able to reduce it a bit with some editing though, invert -> scnr -> invert on the star mask should make it a tad better
oh gosh i'd have to see a tutorial
i assume it's easy
yeah, assuming you have siril its easy
Biggest noob in the world here so please bear with me, trying my best to learn. This is a single 20 second exposure of the orion nebula I took tonight for the 30 seconds of cloudless sky I had. If I was to capture alot of these, would dss have an issue stacking them? Would there be any worthwhile outcome for a beginner brand new to dso?
This is with my beginner scope which is a 90mm mak, will be moving on to a newt very soon
I suppose I'd like some input on the downsides to this sub
should be good
ofc not a perfect sub, but it will definitely be worth stacking
great beginner stuff i would say
Thank you very much, excited to try and get more
30 second exposure of Bortle 4 sky
You can Andromeda Galaxy in the middle of the first image.
lmk if you need help processing. that's easily the hardest part
Yes absolutely, that would be amazing. How many of those 20 second subs should I be looking at getting to get something decent, 30 mins of data? Would I be better with a lower iso setting?
more data is always better, so there really isn't a magic number of frames i would say
tho i would say anything below 30 to 60 min is not really worth it for the image, tho it can be great practice
so definitely just get as much as possible before the clouds ruin your fun haha
Absolutely 👊 I'll get as much as I can when I can and see if you're around 😅
very nice!
big improvement from last time
good work truly
Thanks! I ended up going out last night for about 2-3 hours and taking 3000 more photos
it’s currently stacking as we speak
If everything goes well there’s about 30 minutes of exposure!
hoping I can process it and give it to my mother as a Christmas present
Yooo! Nice
That would be so nice
Congrats
Well no success yet, praying the file looks clean
Good luck!
Hey any last minute tips for processing? Things you think I should do better?
I haven't worked on my final stack yet, but I wanna prep for a quick turnaround
youve got a gradient so id work on fixing that, you can reduce the noise in graxpert, do color calib in siril
what does that exactly mean?
which part exactly
What do you mean by I have a gradient?
the left is darker and is a different color while the region around the nebula is green and brighter, the area beyond the nebula on the right is also a smidge bright
so how would you about fixing something like that? It's occuring again in my full stack. As it stretches it's almost like border of red/green is closing around the nebula with each stretch
background extraction tool in siril
when in the process would it be best to remove noise?
after color calibration, before starnet and stretching
I apologize for asking this, but what do you consider to be your step by step process?
I know a little bit but I don't quite grasp the full path
also wow this tool is incredible
its fine, my process is kind of a mess since i frick around and find out along the way a lot but ideally it should be something like: crop -> background extraction -> color calibration -> denoising -> starnet star removal -> stretch stars and starless (can also do saturation and stuff) -> recombine starless and stars
Fair game
and it sounds like you use a few seperate softwares to do these individually
some in the same some not
you can do all of that in siril
its great software, get the dev builds though, more features
so i guess my question would be if I'm starting w a basic file, at what point do I start to see things? i might be confused in that Im currently under the assumption that stretching towards the end?
Or are we making the assumption that it's a stretched image from the get go
and those are your steps after an initial development
very much still linear before stretching, you can enable autostretch viewmode which lets you see what youre doing without actually stretching the image
So the auto thing I'm doing isn't actually stretching it yet? Yet I can see it?
correct
if you switch it back to linear viewmode the image is gonna be dark like it was before
its definitely something, takes time to get a hang of but worth it
tips for removing the noise?
graxpert
im a little confused on how to integret graxpert
what do you have so far?
I mean I don't know how to uh download it. Am I suppose to have it with Siril or use it seperately?
you can have it be used through siril if you have the dev version of it, ill give you links, gimme a bit
pog
on the graxpert one download prerelease version, on the graxpert pipelines page choose the weekly builds for dev one, then on the download button on the right of it choose win64 native installer
think you might need starnet too, dont remember if it came with siril
im gonna be honest github confuses me im pretty lost
near the bottom of the page under command line tool find windows and then click on the link next to fresh install
where are you currently?
when you open up the graxpert link you should have something like this yeah?
yea
good, then click on the assets to expand it towards the bottom and choose graxpert-windows-amd64.msi
on the siril link you can just go by that
and on starnet site just scroll down until you find that
sick
lots of info dumping but results will be seen (hopefully
)
nah you're good
I can see the benefit of all of these
it well worth it
sick it's all downloaded
get graxpert and siril installed, we'll go from there
it's all in
aight, open up siril
once thats open navigate to the burger menu top right, click, click preferences
right
from there it should open up a menu like this, from that we go to miscellaneous
here youll have to specify where your graxpert and starnet executables are
alright everythings in. any tips for color calibration
everything else seems semi-self explanatory
id imagine you want to do photometric color calib
is there a reason it's gray'd out?
and unselectable
need to platesolve the image first
ahhh
under tools -> astrometry and then image plate solver
youre gonna need to know the target name, pixel size of your camera and focal length
can see what graxpert denoise does
Oddly it seems like it's hittin everything but Red noise?
Or is that just a thing
pretty common occurrence, not sure why
no solution?
im assuming you stacked in DSS?
yep
one thing that might be worth a try is stacking in siril with cfa drizzle
think the red comes from debayering artifacts
gotcha
little script for that, gonna need lights bias and flats, no darks
does this work with deepsnr?
this should be a tad better for deepsnr, havent tested which settings or which kernels actually work the best though
ill give it a run
want the horrendous msgr script too? 
go on
solid 👌
it works but the image is very green
show 
did a manual colour calibration since plate solver was being weird
little to no difference between linked and unlinked stretch
max fan?
works fine
but its just colour which is the issue
platesolver doesnt like working on LMC so i cant run SPCC
tried in siril?
yes
odd
you got the autocolor script in pix? might be worth a try
i dont have that
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btw, that script is a tad borked, it didnt calibrate lights with the bias master 
That's prolly why
added a line so it uses bias master too, might work a tad better
yeah it works a lot better 
the script i sent ya earlier had the same garbage, heres the fixed version
Oh thank you!
SEND Data
Sure
quick and dirty
First stack of a dso
Only 5 second subs since I'm waiting on my new mount but happy with it for sure
Have no idea wether it was focused properly etc
My first bit of orion nebula action
I have 0 idea how to unfudge the core without fudging the rest of the pic
what software do you have?
Hi, this is my first picture I've done. The moon decided to finally come out for a bit so I tried to take a picture with my phone. First of hopefully many more to come.
Using gimp at the moment and have a good bit if learning to do
nice what scope?
130pds
first image of jupiter i did like 20 mins ago
Niceee
it’s kind of blurry is that to do with the focus or not enough data or bad confirms or is it just abit of everything
I'm on a trip around NSW, Australia and will be staying at a very dark place on the night of the 5th and 6th. I have a Canon 5D mk ii, a 35mm f/1.4L and a decent (enough) tripod. Cloud cover is supposed to be around 57% and 53% respectively, although I'd assess it onsite. My question is; how can I best take advantage of my situation? I will admit, have a brief understanding of astrophotography (I'm better with general photography), so please feel free to explain anything important.
point south and wide

Nice
My first image I took this on New Year’s Eve
what equipment?
400mm - 800mm f 8.6 Telephoto lens
I’m looking to buy me fist real telescope or lens sometime soon
And I used gimp
Is that one exposure?
No 60 2 seconds
Yep you want to get the Orion belt for sure. Bortle 1 is gonna be amazing
Get yourself a star tracker and bump those exposure times up and you'll be set to get some real data put of it. Good job though!
My first go at andromeda. About 40 mins of 10s exposures so hopefully if I get some clear nights coming up I'm going to double if not quadruple that.
How would I go about getting good pictures with a dslr camera and a dobsonion telescope?
Or a phone camera
you'd have to find pretty small targets to shoot like a planetary nebula or smtn since most dobs have a tight focal length
I'm assuming untracked so you'll have to realign every few exposures
and those exposures probably wont be longer than 0.2 sec if you dont want star trailing
this is all assuming you can actually find the target if you dont have a go-to dob
checked weather again and it'll be 100% cloud cover :(
Got a bortle 2 on the 8th with low cloud cover though :)
Will a program auto align my pictures up and stack them? Or do I need to do that myself?
Yeah dss will do that
What’s dss?
Yes that's the place to do it
Any more questions just ask 👍 I'm a beginner myself so I'll help as much as I can
One more question. What if I recorded a video instead of pictures?
Thay would only be good for planets
Planets are best with video frames stacked
Dso's are best with longer exposure stacked
Autostakkert is the program to stack planet videos
Deep sky stacker is the program to stack dso photos
I see
I saw somewhere that you can put a cap on your telescope that would help align your camera. Do you have any ideas on what that is called and if it helps at all?
I'm not sure on that one, if you have a dslr I would be looking at an adaptor to fit your eyepiece holder on your telescope
Dslr will give you a much better experience 99% of the time
Like this?
I found the video but I can’t make out what it’s called. It’s supposed to help you focus you’re telescope
If your telescope accepts 1.25 inch eyepieces just yet a t ring and 1.25 adapter for your camera
I wouldn't bother with an extendable one as your telescope should do that for you. I would also look up if your telescope accepts these as some visual telescopes don't work well focusing cameras
I’m getting an 8” dobsonion.
I think I understand what you’re saying but could you provide me a visual of what your saying please?
Just so we can be on the same page
bahtinov mask
That's the device you can put on the end of ur telescope to help you focus it before you shoot
i assume thats what ur talkin about
Almost 1 hour on pleiades with some high clouds (i think). Autostrech in siril
How do I send my tif image to my phone?
No wonder why I couldn’t make out what the person was saying
Thank you btw
Save it as PNG
or JPEG
PNG is less compressed tho
Night 2 and total integration time almost 1 hour 45 min now
Nice
There's a lot of walking noise but for just 1h and 45min it's not bad
Oh yes i noticed that too. Probably due to lack of dark and bias frames.
Dithering is the best way to fix that but yeah dark frames would help
I'm also noticing some strange diffraction on stars and I'm not sure what the cause is
Yes im using a (cheapish) camera lens at max aperture so thats probably causing it
I had 5 but i think thats tooo less. 40 a reasonable number?
Yeah uneven blades could cause that. Try stopping it down a bit, I use my lens at f/8 just for the extra sharpness
Yep 40 is fine
Got it. Thanks a lot for the help
Are you able to do it on DeepSkyStacker? I’m trying to get it off my canon camera, processed, and onto my phone. Either I’m blind or the option isn’t there
In siril or gimp just open the photo and then save it from there as whatever file type you want (jpg or png for phone)
And then email it or upload it to drive etc to grab it on your phone
So process it through dss then put it through siril or gimp then send it to my phone?
I mean wherever you're processing it should allow you to save it out as png or jpg
But that works too if you can't find it
Any tips to improve?
I’ll take a look at it again tonight
Ok. Where do I save as png from here?
Think I found it but this the only options I’ve been given
Why process in DSS??? Use siril for processing dude
Idk what I’m doing/ I was told to use this
What would I use dss for then?
Nothing.
Ok
It’s fine for stacking
But siril is quite better imo
Now I gotta learn how to use Siril.
It's very easy
Yea so simple
Here's beginners astrophotography tutorial on editing the Lagoon Nebula in SIRIL (Astrophotography processing software) . Its easy and simple. You can use this software to edit/process images of milky way, nebulae, galaxies, star trails and clusters.
The picture of Lagoon Nebula is from the official tutorial (https://siril.org/tutorials/tuto-sc...
Ooh. Thanks
Uhm it says I should have green squares on my screen. I have red squares
For what step
Background extraction
Oh yea that's fine
Have you pressed compute background
He's posted the wrong one then
Here's beginners astrophotography tutorial on editing horsehead nebula in SIRIL (Astrophotography processing software) . Its easy and simple. You can use this software to edit/process images of milky way, nebulae, galaxies, star trails and clusters.
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This is better
When searching up an image. Say it’s just a bunch of stars that I got on my camera. Will it work?
What do you mean
This is what I have. It is clearer in real life than it appears in the phone camera.
What do you want to work
Make the image clearer
Maybe I should wait until I get my telescope to do this
I’m trying to figure things out now before it gets to my house
Need to take more photos
Ok
Too bad it’s cloudy outside 😕
I’ll just watch the video for now
How much longer will Orion be visible for?
April
Stellarium
Does it say or do I need to change the date until it’s no longer above me?
Change the date
resized to fit disc. Probably overedited though
Nice shot of carina
canon 5d mkii + 35mm f1.4L
Settings (per photo): 10s / f2.5 / iso: 3200 / 15 photos total
Near Coolac, NSW (Bortle 2, 21.91 mag./arc sec^2)
uhhhh
usually people follow a filler word with normal words...
i guess i just like dogs
in what way... yeah checks out
😭
freaky uuuhhh dog pfp
look to be fair furries usually always have some sort of cool obscure hobby
✨astrophotography✨
frr >:3
My first DSLR im gonna use for astrophotography! Ima use it for milky way for some time and maybe buy a T ring so i can attach it to my scope. (I was on a tight budget but im very excited)
Nice
We’ll have to share notes
I’m still trying to figure out processing I’ve been told I crank my black point way up but when I tone it down it gets really noisy
Computers, trains, hiking and just general photography
Just mess around with the Hsl panel on Lightroom and see what happens. I've you've stacked photos to get this image, increase the exposure by a few stops and then the black point
furries try not to have an interest in IT challenge

I just build computers 😢😢
I gotcha thanks
it's ok I went through a furry phase and building PC's is one of my favourite hobbies (when money allows for it)
Yeah you are clipping a lot of data, the background is completely black. We reduce noise through stacking, dithering and calibration frames.
i thought trains said trans 😭
They cool too :)
real :3
Ok Lucius
🙂
tisk tisk tisk
How are the kids
lmao
My first time imaging the orion nebula (done it with my phone and telescope)
I was just going out to see if there where any clouds and seen this weird circle cloud around moon (it isint cuz camera you can see it with bare eye)
I also saw something like this, the light circle was a small rainbow 🌈
Sick, i got that too
Mind asking what country you’re from
Lithuania, why?
Just asking to se if its only from one region
carina nebula 18 minutes
I’ve also seen that. Not sure what causes it
22 degree halo. Google it.
My friend took this photo
Tiny ice crystals in the atmosphere cause this
Daaaamnnn
Yup
Woah
i see these like really often when theres clouds, although its extremely dim i do see it
are they rare
I dont see them very often, so kinda
hi friends
hawo :3
hai
very fun viewing tonight Jupiter and Mars looked great
Staturn too
Dusk viewing of Venus really did improve the contrast
hey guys! I am incredibly new to astrophotography despite having a telescope for 2 years (thanks clouds). I have only stacked maybe twice. I was just wondering if there is anything I should know about stacking if im taking images with my phone?
Like are there any specific settings I should be aware of or different types of processing? I'm currently using deep sky stacker
What scope do you have? What Dso are you stacking?
I typically just use astrohshader if you have a Iphone
8inch starsense dobsonian, orion nebula, bortle 7-8, ISO 800
ive been stacking with each calibration set and so far it looks as though the bias frames are the issue
google pixel 8 pro
not familiar with that phone is astrohshader avaliable on pixel? Its a live stacking app on your phone I use
everyone keeps saying its an incredibly good phone for astrophotography but its been giving me nothing but grief (horrible vignetting in flat frames no matter what i do etc.)
ill have a look thank you
doesnt look like its available :'), ive been using deep sky camera
I hear ya man
I take planetary and lunar imaging with my phone
getting it square on the eyepiece while its in the phone mount is a pain
i take this back, darks and bias frames keep creating a blue image
i do, testing those ones now
but theyre all vignetted 
example of one of them
ive tried literally everything to stop vignetting so i just gave up
happens on my partners phone too (samsung something idk)
different capture methods, different settings, different apps
cant figure it out
Stscking with the flat frames should allow the stacking software to get rid of the vignetting
I'm mew myself and haven't even used flat frames yet as I haven't needed them too much but I'm aware that flat frames let the stacking software take out the vignetting from your lights by recognising the vignetting from the flats
I'm not even sure if this is what you're asking so forgive me if not
23 minutes of my carina nebula
aha its completely fine thank you :)
if i use the flats it creates vignetting in my final stack image but inverted
unfortunately
Nice
wow mine is way worse
😦
Btw i just tested my cannon 450D (the files are toooo big so i screenshot so the detail is a bit worse…)
Focus is just a tad bit off
i got it to the best focus i could
i just need to colimate
Are you capturing it on a phone or anything
Sun moon and Saturn
Yes
the phone might be out of focus then rather than what ever scope youre using (if youre using a telescope or something)
Oh i thought you ment taking the photo through a phone
its observed on a telescope
yea I have a hard time to get it focused on stuff like planets and the moon, telescope or not, it does work sometimes tho, but perhaps try and get a video and perhaps it'll focus
3 stripes? 
lol
somethin dont seem right
🤷 I'm happy to share the raw files
Maybe dirt on the lens or something?
That's really strange I'm not sure why it looks like that
planet 9
only conclusion that can be made 🤣
More noisy, but I fixed the color and made the bg darker#🥛-widefield-milkyway-pics message
i think you may have lowered the black point too low
Clipped somehow
Noise would become more ewvidwnt
So he cant
It is a bit clipped
And there is a lot of walking noise
There can be improvements made, but this is an awesome image
Impressed with what a phone can do on a 10” dob
Was able to capture The Great Red Spot
That's very good for a live video, nice
lower the exposure by a nice amount next time. When stacking it would produce overexposed image
Ok thanks
Thank you!
Regular Dslr + Tripod + 10min in DSS
looks nice
ty
your black point a lickle low :3
yup but it was so noisy
try with this it is a bit smaler so i can sent it...
ive got the best i can do
siril and graxper
ty omg
amma push it to the extreme
see what tomfoolery i can do
turns out thats the limit of the data xD
already good enough xd
i really need to practise editing xd
you do :3
you can get stupid amounts of detail out of places
even when you dont know it
what gear are u using if u shoot?
skywatcher 150p and asi 585 mc :3
so you use a dob?
nope, a newt :3
is there an actual difference
dob is a newt on an alt az mount that you put on the ground or on a table
alr ty
mineral moon
mini rals
also btw that image mininerd worthy, post it in #1127675764356173885 pics :3
why
oiron
First go with the new rig at a galaxy that isn't andromeda. 1.5 hours, 5min subs. Any advice welcome.
I have absolutely no idea how to process it properly
Didn't do it justice
Nice one man
My first ever try to shoot a dso. I’m pretty sure it’s the orion nebula. This picture was taken with a 10s exposure and slightly edited, on my phone tho. Telescope is 80/400. (I have a maksutov too, but i think it’s only good for planets. Or am I wrong?)
Aaaaa how does your’s look so good, we photographed the same thing but mine is all shaky
ask @zinc timber its not my data xD
O alright, ty 😂
this image is taken with a dslr 200x1 second and callibration frames stacked in deepskystacker😁
Actually worked my way into siril and tried to make it look a bit more like the one you edited but i cant get the amount of detail you can… 😅
any tipps?
try graxpert denoise :3
should improve the signal to noise ratio
ill try ty
stretch some more, its quite dark
but the bg gets oversaturated then
wait im getting outnerded again 😂😭
sry bro ive no clue what you are talking about😂
its one of the bars when ur doing ghs stretch
most youtube videos can explain it a lot better than i can
basically it sets the point where it centers the stretches around
wait can siril sharpen?
graxpert
Itsss... so foggy
And i had to crop it alot
Maybe noise reduction from photoshop makes it blurry
the issue is the fog xD
What equipment?
its mostly just halos from fog, but PS denoise doesnt do great either. graxpert is a way better option for astrophotos and its free
however PS does great at reducing color noise, so usually one of my last steps is to reduce only color noise with PS
I see
Ill use graxpert
Yeahh
Just 1300d Canon witj 70-300mm lens
Once you get a clear sky try again and I'm sure you'll be much happier with the result
Pretty much i think, its rare had a clear skies in my city, cuz the polution is too much, and i live in b9 haha
But ill try wait a clear skies
Yea it’s great
yo i can see some progress thank you
looks a little clipped but ur doing good
you will get better over time
clipped is where the black point is too low
Yo bro
WHAT IS YOUR SEEING
36 minutes with some sinple stretching
Was a bit cloudy, which explains the stars
Hoping to get a few hours over the next few weeks
this is tracked isnt it?
Yes. 1 minute exposures
Looks interesting to say the least
stockphoto galaxy 
what did you process this with????
Siril, graxpert and photoshop
It looks bad?
yeah
i dont even know how you got the core blurry and the outside like that
I dont even know
use this 20 minutes untracked as a reference or something
I dont have an any fancy setup, like expensive camera or something
Just an old fashion camera and cheap lens and tripod
And i wanna best result actually :/
Actually i forgot something, i was shooting orion nebula while it was foggy
Frick i should not have done that
Messed up my data
DSS, he learned from you
just increasing my subs
i tried to not heavily denoise it in photoshop so i did left a grainy bit in the nebula there
idk, is it any better than last one? ik last one was shit
shot with 300mm fl, and this was heavily cropped
the nebula itself is a lot better
btw, dont use photoshop for denoising, use graxpert which is free
u can also use graxpert to extract out the background gradient, which you have a lot of on the edges
alright ill try, thanks

I always say this
not your image? also what telescope do you have
and do u mean visually or with a camera
what is the easyist best and free proccesing softwere i can use on mac???
Siril
That’s what I use, but I’m having the bayering issues thats all
whats the issue
Deepskystacker is really good and super simple
dslr untracked
any advice welcome
i would but i hve mac
These look cool
run starnet to clean up the stars
Yes
time?
4 hours approximately. 1 min subexposures
Oooo, wanting to get a DSLR and a star tracker, but could easily add up to a grand so would rather upgrade what I have now
Right now I have a skywatcher virtuoso 150p, which is great however sometimes has slewing issues. And a phone as a camera. I’m still able to get decent planetary and deep sky shots but want to get a ccd camera. I’ll share some of my images below:
All of these are from bortle 6 skies. Noise and colour gradients from issues in stacking as im only using a phone app to stack right now (looking at dss and siril soon)
True. Impressive for a phone
Get second hand. I got an out of this world deal (sky watcher 200pds, heq5, 2 planetary cameras, guide scope and cameras) for only 500
Just keep looking at websites like astrobuysell or ebay everyday, and eventually you'll get a good deal
I do follow second hand a lot. All equipment I own is second hand. Lifesaver
Thank you, i try my best 😊
Yes. Lets just hope the clouds are on vacation that day
It’s going to be cloudy for me AGAIN 😭 what are the chances
Philmont scout ranch in New Mexico U.S. has pretty low light pollution and iPhone post processing is kinda crazy
(30 sec exposure)
Oh my thats beautiful
Put exposure up
And take a recording of around 2-3min then process
Your jupiter has potential
It would be a pain to manually track for 3mins lol
Hmm put lower magnification try manually track like that
But trust me you'll get good results
Astrobiscuit did it before he got real good results
I can process for you if I have time
Holy you even got some glow on scorpion region
Wow this is nice
How did you do this and not get star trailing?
I don’t know, iPhone might instead of taking one long 30-sec exposure, take multiple shorter ones and automatically stack them.
Oh neat
aand forgot to dither
not that bad
single exposure taken with a Nikon d3300 through a mead etx 90
Omg this looked like my first few
it just occured to me im not a beginner anymore..... damn thats crazy
ima share my newest shots here one last time
Revive beginners place, I'll start
Thats pretty beginner right? I mean its phone ap so ill count it as a yes
very old photo
Upgraded from my 114mm spherical to a 6" f/5 parabolic . It's been a little over a month and this is what I've gotten so far :3
Seeing the ring nebula back to back makes me wanna redo the Trifid nebula too
Especially with how bright it was in the red, like omg
Didn't expect that much signal there from an unmodded dslr
this is so goated
what do you use for tracking?
Eq3 and meade electronic drive motor
Balanced with a half jug of water. But the gears slip, so I wouldn't recommend it
It's just what I have currently
Ivy tbh i dont think you a beginner anymore, bro that is masterpiece this is beginner
Your sun is so beautiful my looks like poop
Just centre dotted my telescope mirror, took a pic and outlined and made a cross shape and relized i did pretty good! Im so proud lol (btw my first time centre dotting)
First picture. Was taken on the a6400.
I think 16 mm without crop. And yea the exposure was like 20 seconds and I moved out the shot after like 10 seconds or something
you have some signal in your artifacts and noise dude
Bro we need to revive beginners place ngl
there are no more beginners
There are, im one and there will be!
hi guys i am new astrophotographer how to take foto like bray fall 😊
I'm beginner astrophotographer, how to shoot planets like Tom Williams? I have only xiaomi 14 pro super mega pro max
I’m new guys how to take photo of Saturn with my Nokia 33010
Ok, my first ever attempt at astrophtography. M31, made up of 24 minutes worth of 20 second subs. Nikon D7500, Sky Watcher 150P & EQ3-2 mount. First stab at stacking and processing, mainly in Siril with a bit of photoshop while following bits of tutorials and trying to get some sort of result!.
thats really frickin good for a first time
get more data and bring out the dust lanes :D
im back (i forgot the password to to my old accound which was the op)
I beginner 
Says the mini nerd 🧐
Nah I am because like I don't have tracker 🙁 and I am on a DSLR
There’s some untracked dslr people here that are insanely good
Yea well I try but I am now printing a tracker
OpenAstroExplorer
That’s sick, I know someone that did that and coded it to rotate with the Earth
Thats awesome!
took these with a FujiFilm X-T5, a 230mm zoom lens, and a star adventure mini star tracker I had laying around for a few years.
First image: Andromeda, 12 minutes, my first deep space photo
Second image: random patch of sky exposed for 10 minutes
Third image: dumbbell nebula exposed for 30 minutes
Fourth image: Andromeda exposed for an hour
carina nebula
is this the 3 hour massive project?
Nope, I just shot a new one collected 40 mins of it, I stacked my 3 hours carina, but it seems the stack artifacts are very worse, even influencing the nebula itself
I can't process it, so yeah I delete it haha
Apperantly no... : (
I perma delete it, since it's... Very very worse
I'm not sure but it's like shot at 900mm, and definitely not a beginner set up
And some filters, mine only stock dslr camera with short focal length
of course, but the structure just doesn't look the same
It's helix... Probably a short focal length and I did some massive crop make the structure looks like that
platesolve it 
was just about to lol
?
told you its helix
wth
done
wtf its so cooked lmao, how is there so much structure in the center
i think theres just less red on the sides
no the structure is just straight up different
nah not really, just missing some details. the stars inside the nebula line up with a reference image
the previous image shows ha filaments in the center, unless this is some goofy compression thing
prob, i mean the stars align properly
I mean like it's 30 minutes exposure with bortle 9, bad seeing weather
It was pretty low
And I did massive crop for it
....
I already platesolve it
Man how come people will not trust the image, though I already platesolve it...
i understand the platesolve im just saying there are some wacky artifacts that make it look different
why is the transition to bg like that, did u use masking
2 hrs untracked is crazy dedicated
#1019718599922946089
Yes I created a new background
It's hard to fix the bg, so I use masking
where is the bg from?
I use new layer from photoshop, create new layer and then alt + del it
From the new layer from Photoshop
No it's the same
so what masking did you do
I seperate the nebula from the background itself so it leaves me 2 object which is the Orion and the Horsehead
Then I made a new black solid color background, then I match the luminosity of the nebula
Then you have a nice background
almost definitely deleting some dust by doing it that way lol
Well I don't really bother that much cuz I live in bortle 9 light city, and I use no filter at all to get the dust, 2 hours at bortle 9 city isn't enough to get the dust in there
what does the raw stack look like with a rough dbe and autostretch?
forgor about this icl 😭
compressed by discord but you still lost something probably, that technique just isnt gonna be better than a solid dbe, especially on a region that you know would be heavy on dust
on an image where you have standalone galaxies or sth it could be fine but still
Idk about this, I cannot look the dust, or maybe I need more longer exposure to make the dust appear?
I removed the point where it's the nebula area, is it good background extraction?
u should show us the bge, and yeah you should not place bge points on nebula
🥲
No other way to get decent pics with my dob other than being magnified waaaaaay to much 🙂
goodness gracious please take flats
kinda curious if background extraction can handle this
Want the data?
bet
140mm 4.22um
Good luck 🫡
@gleaming dock how that go 😭
my wifis so bad its still downloading 😭
😭😭😭😭
my pc doesnt like this

Nah it'll be fine trust
well siril isnt starting anymore 😭
😭😭 my bad gang
go stack it in siril now
orion nebula 40 mins
oh yeah fyi, i use diy star tracker right now, so no more untracked, im done with untracked right now
Feels so satisfying to do longer than 1 seconds subs
i hope soo.... haha
YESSS
i used to do 1 sec and 6400 iso, and it shows no detail at all
only noise
i can do 30second without trailing
heres my sample frame of 30 second exposure
this is my 2 second exposure
you get it working?
nah ill install it later


