#How it started… How it's going…
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Before: clear skies
Now: been cloudy for a few months
such a pretty target. nightmare to image from scotland
It’s bright
Or do u mean cuz ur very north
First try imaging with a DSLR - Second try and with ASI585 - Current.
nice improvement
I don't know what the difference in process is from the second one to the third. I wonder if it was before I got the UV/IR filter.
Exactly, and my house has a restrictive view
oof
i have like perfect view of mw and cygnus
i can even get carina a bit above the horizon and also lmc and smc
Asi585 is such a great all rounder camera.
It definitely is
3 years apart
One month apart, same data just processed the one on the left a bit better.
1 year apart
This shows the difference pixinsight, blurx and noisex has on an image, same data, editted the same day.
fantastic comparison
2 year gap
oh wow, incredible improvement for just a year
getting an entirely new setup was quite revolutionary
Great job, that’s a great 1 year difference
whoops just realized i made a typo... it's 2 years 😓
Still nice improvement nonetheless
Getting a new setup will def make a huge difference - especially when you know how to use the equipment.
how it started, about two years ago, vs my latest and best.
Loving the improvement!
My progress over two years
Damn! Respect
Thanks!
great work
2022 vs 2025
About 3 months apart
2023 vs 2025
'Ery Noice
same data, a few months apart
if you need to guess which is old vs new i might crash out
Are these with different equipment?
Yes
interesting
Ow okay
One on the right is old
which one is how it started and how it's going
right is how it started and left is how its going
Ah ok
About one year difference
nice progress
Thanks 😄
Small Jupiter is from 2020
Big Jupiter is from a few weeks ago
Nice improvement!
I'm guessing an update in not only skill but equip? Nice work!
Thank you.
Yes first pic is a single pic from an etx90 and a canon t3i,
2nd pic is a c 9.25 with an asi224mc and 3x barlow
The planetary cam makes a huge difference even when you're doing well with skill
it def does even a change in barlow imporves the uality a lot (left is of the barlow that came with the scope, right is with GSO 2x barlow)
wait
has the grs shrunk?
The Great Red Spot is a persistent high-pressure region in the atmosphere of Jupiter, producing an anticyclonic storm that is the largest in the Solar System. It is the most recognizable feature on Jupiter, owing to its red-orange color whose origin is still unknown. Located 22 degrees south of Jupiter's equator, it produces wind-speeds up to 43...
woah
why did the galaxy move
somebody may have done a goof up with the star recombination
lol
2023 vs 2025
theres a star in this black and white image thats visible and then vanishes in the second image.
I love my orion scope, they are well made! too bad they went out of business
first one was fully saturated btw
btw this star?
no it dissapeared behind the galaxy bc i didnt correctly add the stars back in to the photo
it is the same data
i wish 
How do you not correctly add the stars back in? what are you using and how are you doing it?
if you got pixinsight im about to save your life
there is a program called starnet that removes stars called starnet but in the pixinsight version i used starx, it is the same thing basically. i dynamic cropped the starless, then added that crop to the stars but it added incorrectly, the project is no longer saved bt
oh so you croped your image after removing the stars and just didnt crop the star image exactly the same as the background?
yeah, even though i used the same crop
thats bizarre. that should of worked
the way I put the stars back in is using pixel math
yeah it was recombined with pixel math
thats super weird
thats similar to what i used
Really nice
was your post directed to me?
Ye
Sorry about that, I am unsure what 200pds means
One of Skywatchers newts
I also appreciate the compliment. I was very proud of that image but I think my system can do even better with better conditions. If I recall correctly, the average FWHM was around a 4, which is okay seeing but its not excellent.
no its a custom built newt using one of Agena astro's mirrors
yeah I didn't build it myself, I bought it used off of someone who also didn't build it themselves but its crazy.
Some crazy guy alluminum welded it himself
Dam
yep, the secondary is from them too. big fat one
Custom newts are always neat to just look at
the focuser is scope stuff
it didnt have a lid when I bought it though, so I had to 3d print it
^
I just recently got my SCT up and running, I am so excited to try imaging with it!
Lovely
jupiter 2 years apart, same 6" dobsonian but switched from phone to astrocam
NGC 891; 8 months from when I first took it when I had an alt-az mount, just got my camera, and barely knew how to process. The left is a 30s exposure in a windy day, the right is around 2 hours of 120s subs.
that first image on the left still isn't bad for only 30 seconds, and less than ideal atmospheric conditions. What telescope, if I may ask?
The image in the left I used the celestron evolution 8 telescope with the provided alt-az mount
The image on the left was in a less than ideal place in the sky with more atmosphere to shoot through
my progress on M42 :)
Really nice progress! It's gradual and natural, and provides a realistic expectation of how improvement in this hobby works, unlike some of you people here...
i did m42 with phone and bino and didn't image it again until next yeat
Very nice cwassaant
My last image of the heart nebula (left), vs my most recent (right)
Different gear, and taken over a year apart.
Same integration time, same sub length but dob twice the size, tracked and like 2 years of processing improvements 
dang bro thats really good
M42 over a year of progress. From when I just started to now
Really good improvement, what equipment was used to capture each?
damn big processing difference
A skywatcher Mercury and a phone was used for the first one and a Seestar S50 was used for the other
My first orion vs my most recent one, same telescope, 1 year difference and different phones
Great improvement! What phone did you start and end with?
Samsung a52 with like 2s exposure and iphone 15 pro with 300x1s in astroshader
My M51 progress over 3y
is left new?
No 😭 this isnt the middle east evolving backwards
first ever image of the carina constellation, vs my newest image of the carina constellation (my discovery)
bit of a weird comparison tho haha
i wanna discover stuff
yeah for me i was firstly really lucky that steve reached out to me to process his carina data, and i had the curiosity to look around. u need super high quality (deep) data even just for surveying
i think doing discoveries (the initial detection part) is either super easy or super difficult, depending mostly on how good your equipment is (its quite pay to win), and a bit based on luck
Yea defo
1 year and 1 day difference
insane progress keep it up
Damn!!!
One year difference
3 years of astro
My first ever image of the Flame & HorseHead nebulae, vs my most recent and best.
My Orion over the course of 4 years
Close to 1yr diff
pay to win my beloved
This whole hobby is p2w.

yeah
Skill isn't pay to win
First try of orion and recent try of orion same equipment, same location
moon
Aug 2023 vs thursday
Nov 26, 2022 - Feb 23, 2025
Which camera?
Iphone 13 - Canon 60d
Stock or modified?
stock
Askar 71f, SA GTI, 16 minutes of data
low res cause screenshot
Good color for stock
Only wish I could get more data. Clouds rolled in after only 16 minutes.
Latest images of the planets compared to early photos
Only got 8 minutes of data on m82 sadly so not much signal difference
2024 vs 2025, 45hrs vs 100hrs
crazyyy
start and what its now
slightly overkill mount 
is it even balanced lol
yes
barely?
before getting the heq5, i was looking into getting an NEQ6
eq6 supremacy
no it balences fine
i’m surprised
im using a ligher lens and bc of that i've had to buy a ligher countweight
atm im running a gti counterweiht
oh yea i should show my planetary rig 
old and new
started 7 months ago :)
A 1 year diffrence
That first image is beyond cursed 💀💀💀

2 year difference, loads of gear changes and processing changes!
Old scope: Celestron C8: Mount: Skywatcher HEQ 5 pro guided: Camera: Nikon D3500 full spectrum, no filters: 2h 30m of 300s subs
New: Scope: Skywatcher 200PDS modded: Mount: Skywatcher HEQ 5 pro guided: Camera: ASI 1600MM pro: ZWO LRGB and Baader SHO filters: 20h+ in 120s and 300s exposures
What images did you get with the old planetary rig
What FL?
400
Nice
its painful
does require a lot of tinkering for software to stack
very quickly youll realise how apperture limited you are over seeing limitations
on second thought….. I think il stick to my 6” dob
do
Nuh uh
Almost 1 year difference: new one has 45 mins of data and old one is 2hr 30mins
U delusional, there is a difference
i love how this spot appears in the latest version, much more care taken to protect faint nebulae
2 years apart! Old sky watcher lens and d5300 vs 130pds and P1 ares c pro
may 2022 compared to march 2025 lunar eclipse
September 2024 (30-second exposure) compared to February 2025 (10-minute exposure). Both were captured unguided on the same film stock but with a different mount.
Film as in photographic film?
Yes.
Whoah thats cool
pretty great improvement
About 1.5 years apart
I like how your orientation is the same ☺️

1 day difference in processing techniques
Bad seeing and transparency on the right, but I’d consider it as an improvement
1 month of processing knowledge improvement!
the right image looks so much better, great improvement
Same data. Only different process. Both quick and dirty. Guess the newer process
Newer with an astro dedicated camera. I don't think I have to say which one is which. Around 3 months difference
The old was a crap process
Which one is the newer one?
The Left...
i thought it was the right...
Ur insulting him
no: purple Orion was just cool
Yeah but the new one has better details and colours
You really do insult me
resolution is trash but the left one is obv the newer
My first ever image of M101 (left), and my most recent image (right).
july 2023 vs march 2025, 8" f5 on left and 8" f4 on right both on my avx bortle 9, lots of gear and software upgrades though
B9!!! Impressive my man
thanks!
Amazing
I love it
Ay that's awesome 🥹
thank you both!
Over a years difference in processing. BAT data for reference
Great process on the left
1st Orion to the most recent. Staring with a DSLR and kit lens on a rickety tripod to a modest 6" newtonian, with a modest 294MC-Pro on a modest eq mount. Interestingly enough, most recent Orion data was just test data after installation of a mirror mask. Even though I was running 5 minute exposures to primarily focus on star clarity, the overall result was fun.
Ty! defo the better one by miles
Lovely improvement!
haha i was worried the new process was the one on the right
INSANE! did u tune your mount? also how does that mount handle that scope? isnt the scope way too heavy for thee mount?
The avx technically doesn't have an issue holding an 8", but the main issue is the avx isn't known for reliability and precision.
But if tuned well and I guess if you get a particularly good copy it can do ok.
thank you! I got it tuned by a local astronomy vendor, they upgrade some of the parts with better bearings and retune the mount. It handles it alright, without the upgrade it wouldn't do as good. My main issue is the backlash as these mounts are known for that, but I also basically threw the whole book at it to guide well enough like pec training, messing with guide settings, quirky balancing, etc. Even then, it isn't always consistent. I usually visually check and delete about a 1/3rd of my data before culling more in subframe selector that way I don't stack the bad exposures. Also the short focal length helps hide some errors in the guiding since my pixel scale is only 1.01"/px.
yea it does great for planetary, for deep sky astrophotography you definitely have to work for it to get it to perform well. Wouldn't recommend it unless someone was already stuck with it like I was, or got it for really cheap used (and wasn't planning on putting a big scope on it for shooting dso's).
oh ok, im gonna get an 8" quattro soon and i still dont know if i should get the neq6 for around 1400 euros or the eq6r pro for 2000 euros, what do you think?
well if your seeing isnt under 1arc sec (95% of times it isnt) then u are getting the most out of the conditions so it doesnt matter that much
yea thats true
1 year of humble progress. Second image has around 300x times the integration
good job beaver
Can you show the raw stack vs raw stack auto stretch vs processed?
I want to see that insane image’s raw stack
ill send tomorrow
it’s LRGB
so can’t really send raw
this is what my LRGB combination looked like though, pretty raw
damn that’s good
Imma add onto that with my progress
2 years and 600x more data
good job 
yayyy
yayy
My progression from start to now.
Old: Dec 2022, Celestron C8, HEQ 5 unguided, Nikon D3500 full spectrum, 30ish minutes of 120s subs
New: March 2024, 200PDS, HEQ 5 guided, ASI 1600MM pro, Baader Ha, ZWO LRGB, 21h of 120s and 300s subs in HaLRGB
Damn
First photo of carina vs most recent 15 mins of 30s photos vs 6x600s photos
Almost a year apart
This object is in the top left of the right image
i think ive come quite a long way. Like 3 or 4 years difference
the difference is mad
only piece of equipment I haven't changed out since then was my guidecam and mount lol
1st and second time shooting m51. this is like 2 1/2 years apart
that is m51
oops I was dreaming while typing this lol
I also just finished a shot of m106 so ig thats why
last july vs 2 days ago
Fantastic improvement
Same integration
What Bortle are you in?
7
Oh alright
Is that a good thing?
1 week improvement (90% of the improvement is the change in seeing conditions but still)
Actually crazy improvement
whoah ok the improvement is actually insane
same setup, same conditions, same target 9 months apart
bob is most improved astrophotographer
listen it's a good game
I can't argue with that logic
-# (has over a thousand hours in TitanFall 2)
same vibe
dammmmnnnn
i kinda got one (just some test lum i got) vs DSLR and svbony 80mm
The old one is 2 hours exposure time and the new one is 4 hours, but I will still collect more exposure time for the new one.
Same setup, same skies, 1 year apart
cooked vs you cooked
Actually I managed to process it even better, here's the comparison
I asked a friend he thinks the old one is better 🥲
He lying hard
Haha no he genuinely thinks that because it pops more and is more saturated and stuff xD
lol
He’s gotta be f’ing with you.
I asked a few more friends and they are dead serious about the old one being better smh
Prob bc it has more colour
Less than a year time difference
same gear?
Thanks, pix makes such a difference
Best purchase you can make for the price
Here's my own: three years of progress on M31
- DSLR on 150pds
- ASI533MC on 72ed
- ASI533MM on 72ed (and pixinsight from this point)
- ASI6200MM on quattro 250p
- ASI6200MM on RASA 11
Great improvement 
Deneb 1 year and 6 months difference
Is that north American?
Yeah it is
9 months difference
bro locked IN
3 month diff
Like 5 months difference, the newer one has half the exposure time (and was a 2 minute process)
2h vs 4.5 hours
2 weeks difference. On the left is the first time I used an Astrodedicated camera. On the right is the 2nd take of the same target. Both are about 2.5h. Lesson learned? Always do your homework before going out under the sky
thats an indescribable changeup
Thanks. The morale was that the skills will reflect in the results no matter how expensive or hi-tech your rig is.
Same data 1wk processing difference
What processing differences did you make?
Continuum Subtraction, And i used sioe scripts from Seti Astro. amazing scripts. and generaly ditched my old ways of processing and re did everything more cautiously. I also set up the camera and telescope properly. In the first try I didn't set a camera offset plus I had some bad internal reflections. I also fine tuned the collimation to a perfect state and switched to IR guiding. also took notes from the night that I shot M101 for the first time and set up PHD2 properly because it was ridiculous to have between 0.8 and 1.2 arcseconds RMS with a SW WAVE 150i. so yeah. the failure for me was a lesson that i learned how to get better
Failure is one of the best teachers, I assume you use pixinsight?
Yes. Before I was using Photoshop
Nice, keep up the good work!
Thank you, and I wish you clear skies 
You too 
woahh insane! what did you doo different the second time?
I chose a time that the weather was much better, I fine tuned some settings in PHD2 and properly set the camera, and overall more improved processing 😄
18 hours with a stock DSLR (yes, 18h, I've triple checked) vs 2h40min with mono IMX571
almost 1 year of difference
Amazing for only 18 hours 
I genuinely don't know what I did
I gotta reprocess that data some time
I wouldn't be surprised if the data is just not good, unless it was in darker skies.
Which I guess id expect a bit more signal for 18hrs
Bortle 7-8 with full moon + stock dslr... shit data
i would cut it down to 8 bit ness
if the tiny little data isnt more than a bit then it just will never be seen
I had decent results after modding the camera but I could care less now that I'm mono
Glad those times are over!
not really satisfied with this one yet
or this one
same data lol
its insane how many memories come up with each image… especially the early ones.
Really great improvement with all of these, awesome!
holy mono
first image I shot of the Eagle Nebula (with a phone) vs last. Yeah, it's mostly a gear glow up, but still
What’d you do to make it green and purple in the newer one?, looks interesting.
SHO palette without green reduction, that's the way I like to do it.
I'm not a fan of the blue/brown you get from reducing the green
I'm also inspired by the WISE palette
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100601.html
It shouldn't be completely green to the point where it drowns out the other channels completely, but no green at all is also a deadly sin imo
this has better processing
feel like I've seen the right image on wikipedia
Left (12-30-24) - my first attempt at the Heart Nebula, yes I missed it and got the Soul Nebula but I meant to get the Heart.
RIght (5-26-25) - Actually capturing the Heart Nebula, with my 533mc pro and L-enhance
missing it and almost perfectly framing another target is incredible 
I must say, the heart nebula does not at all look like a heart
Well my FOV is quite small, i think it does look like a Heart personally
it’s kind of a heart
Most nebulae (and other deep sky objects tbh) do not look anything like what they're named after, not without a little imagination
They're just blobs of gas, they arent going to look exactly like objects
They look like objects, those objects being blobs of gas.
Me on my way to change all of my nebula labels in Stellarium to "Blob of Gas Nebula"
I mean it's more accurate than the normal names
The heart nebula is not a heart
The shape that comes to most people's minds when they hear "heart" isn't the shape of an actual heart, but this ❤️ more times than not. It kinda makes sense.
How about Rosette? To me it looks more like a skull than a rose😅
Depends on the orientation tbh, but I'd lean towards a skull still ngl.
Seagull Nebula, I'll rename it to Phoenix Nebula... more epic
Flame Nebula is an easy one to recognize
And its neighbor 
apart from the fish head nebula
yeah true, that one does look an awful lot like a fish head
that and ngc 7k
definitely
this looks worse bru
don't force Ha out, that's not what Ha structure looks like
I like how it started
Go easy on the denoise. Or use png
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this is amazing
What reduced the pink in your recent process?
Me
I mean what did you do differently lmao
Well that crescent image is NB only so I used a lot more wild curves adjustments to get cool colors. The sh2 108 image is RGB with Ha added so I wanted to keep it natural. Some regions like horsehead have more pinkish Ha but this region not quite as much.
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2024 vs 2025
rip blue
There's blue where it's supposed to be 
M106 is a Sb type galaxy so if you SPCC it as so the white balance obtained will show that theres close to no blue in it
L

I don't even use SPCC, manual color calibration>>
damn
same scope?
Esprit 80 vs 8" f6 noot
esprit actually performed decently
It's alright
Ah, not that big of a surprise that the quality increased then
still a great improvement though!
haha
First attempt of NGC 6946 IFN to most recent
Old: Scope: Quattro 150p: Camera: ASI 294MC pro: ZWO UV/IR cut filter: Integration 3-5h? dont remember or have it saved anywhere
New: Scope: Quattro 150p: Camera: Touptek ATR2600M: Touptek LRGB filters: Integration 22 hours
Working on that. I don’t have a guide scope and camera to dither yet so I’ve been doing it manually
as long as you are tracked and using NINA you can dither
idk about other capturing softwares
I’m using a SWSA cant connect to NINA
rip
Yea
1.5 year difference
The app has a dither option
I somehow got the one canon camera that can’t connect to the mount
Even with a special cable?
First one was taken in 2022, the second one was taken yesterday, so a 3 year difference
Both taken with a phone and telescope
1 Nov 2023
18 Sep 2024
10 May 2025
(don't have pics from late may/this month so far, weathers been absolutely horrendous)
december 2024 vs end of february 2025
What setup? And filters???
SVX102T-RA
ASI2600MM Pro w/ 7x2” EFW
AM-5
ZWO EAF
ZWO OAG-L
Filters for that image are 2” Baader 6.5nm SHO - i also have 2” Antila V-Pro LRGB
for the before: Astronomik clip in 7nm Ha
Zenithstar 61
Skyguider Pro
Unmodded Canon EOS Rebel T7i
dope details!
First picture vs lastest picture
2 year difference
I see what you rocking sick man!
gonna have a second rig up and running soon(ish) with the same scope
as soon as sv returns it from rebuilding it
2022
2025
the lagoon mosaic is still work in progress but i dont think ill get clear skies this month
20 Mar 2015
29 Mar 2025
Is the first one a sketch??
picture
it was photocopied twice
Got it
I found the photocopied once picture
still have no idea where the original is tho
also, 25 Oct 2022
That's an interesting way to view the eclipse
projected through binos onto a wall
One of the best data recoverys that i did
Also the First One Is suuuuper denoised
Uhh why did the star field change rotation?
Damn, i didn't see that, it's because i forgot to vertical mirror the star Mask, bcs i use siril for removing stars and siril flips the pix immage
Rip
Nice
What is the second one
both are the crescent nebula
Ty
Around 1/5 years difference
same gear, 5 month diff
Tbh I like that palette more than the dark red/purple
ty is not SHO but more of a HHO
Kinda reminds me of a certain soviet era rocket
Funny how history finds a way to repeat
At least no one got hurt I guess
Look at the good side. Some parts of it might have made it into low earth orbit
Kinda reminds me of another Soviet era rocket. Oh wait.
about 3 years difference
my first accidental andromeda, taken with my smartphone about 2 years ago vs my most recent try on it, taken this morning at dusk. Multiple upgrades between the two pictures obviously
Nice :) tho the first image is also great! Why monochrome tho?
im sorry I thought the right was m110 😭
Ive only shot ha for fun, might add some other filters soon
XDDDD
First Ha nebula Vs Newest
Rosette is better processed tbh
its a super deep crop, like 10x but fact thats 250mm is wild to me
This is actual framing
same equipment, half a year (powerseeker, dslr with 3x barlow)
Only 2 days difference, same data different processing
Both are absolutely gorgeous
First ever attempt at crescent vs most recent
Old: May 27th 2023, Celestron C8, HEQ 5 pro guided, Nikon D3500 full spectrum, no filter, 4h of 7 minute subs iirc
New: June 24th 2025, Skywatcher 200PDS modded, HEQ5 pro guided, Touptek ATR 2600M, Touptek 3.5/4nm SHO filters, 14h
Right is disgusting.
I don't think it's that bad, perhaps my standards just aren't as constricting.
My guy your images are destroying my phones discord
It's glitching so bad
how
Idk i tried to zoom in and my discord started tweaking so hard
maybe you haven’t unlocked zooming in yet
😭
I took a video of Jupiter and then randomly decided to see what would happen if I pointed at m51.
Top image is a screen shot of a 15 second preview that got me hooked on deep space. Taken with a 224mc.
Bottom is my latest m51 taken with a 585mc pro and a focal reducer.
This is on the same rig. Ive been clouded over every night i was available for the past 8 months. Since then, ive gotten pretty rusty, the right side is the newer one.. Might practice with others peoples data when i get stretches of clouds like this from now on.
Both with smart telescopes, just about a year apart.
The Western Veil: August 2024 vs July 2025
main difference between these two is OSC vs Mono (and 15hrs vs 22hrs)
August was taken in B4, July in B7
2023 vs 2025
2023 v 2025, same dslr, same location
july 2024 vs july 2025
old: iPhone 11 pro max and 150/1200 dobsonian
new: ares c pro astrocamera with same 150/1200 tube but on a eq6r pro mount
june 2024 vs july 2025
old: iPhone 11 pro max and 150/1200 dobsonian
new: ares c pro astrocamera with same 150/1200 tube but on a eq6r pro mount
Nice improvement Nick
My progress over the last 1.5-2 years
The steady progression of everything
ik this isnt the point of it but whys the m16 mirrored lol
1 year difference (and a new telescope) Same camera (Canon T100/4000D unmodded)
Last year: 70mm refractor untracked with a flimsy tripod. Around 0.5s subs, and 5m total exposures for both
This year: 150/750mm newtonian and a very cursed tracking setup. 1 Hour for Dumbbell, 30m for Ring nebula. 6s subs for both
first one wont load
nvm it loaded

Couldn’t tell you 
The improvement is really good
Exactly a year difference, completely different scope, went to a mono camera, got guiding, different mount... i really cant believe it that i got this far
Exactly one year with 8". Last year use ZWO ASI120MC-S with cheap Svbony Barlow. This uear use ZWO ASI585MC (borrowed from my friend) and Svbony Telecentric Lens . A lot of technique and processing skills developed
One piece of advice I believe EVERY beginner should use is get as much exposure time as you can, yea I know it’s sucks and you need patience. But trust me having not enough exposure time is 80% of your problems. Go for atleast 20 hours on things or as much as you can
I agree, but for a beginner I think 20 hours is too much. I'd probably say 4-5 hours is what to aim for as a beginner, or just what you can get in a single night
Nice images tho :)
Fair enough I’m just saying if they’re trying to move on from beginning that’s what they gotta do
Depends on what you call a beginner. If you're using an unmodded DSLR, there's just a limit you can never break with more integration time
You need gear at some point to not be a beginner
Just look at that guy in #🔭-astrophotography-chat who got 10 hrs with unmodded dslr
That is a fair point lol so I had one of those
And yea that’s rough
Both very beautiful shots of the dragons, the overall quality is better in the second image but the color palette in the first is better I think
I think it depends more on how patient of a beginner you are (which also depends wildly on knowing what you're doing before you begin, learning from more experienced individuals first). 20hrs is by no means unachievable for anyone, beginner or advanced. Just a matter of patience (and having the right equipment to some extent).
basically, if you're willing to put in the effort then you can reap your benefits
First one is cooked asf what are you talking about 😭
still pretty looking, regardless of quality
uh
id honestly put the first pic in hall of shame
Ah well, differing standards I guess. Mine are low, but I still know what's good. I wouldn't be so harsh on your image, for you it might not look good at all, but most people would probably see it as acceptable, despite its flaws. Atleast that's what I'd imagine.
Like yeah you zoom in on the first one and you can see lots of artefacting and smudgy detail here and there, but the color and the somewhat ethereal feel the image has overall makes up for it I think, from an artistic standpoint atleast.
there's a weird phenomenon I've noticed with some astro photos, where the processing and/or data is bad, but the image still looks decently cool. There's an odd sense of soft emotion to the image, I can't explain it
I forget who posted it, but this image of M16 someone sent here has that same effect. It has a strange ethereal vibe to it, the fuzzy stars and the soft undefined details in the nebulosity.
Idk, it's 2:20 AM and I can't really think of what it is, aside from what I've described just now.
That's kinda what I aimed for with the M24 process I submitted to the competition. Is it a little overcooked? Sure. But one of my friends said it reminded her of an overexposed film image
Thats my friends image that I processed lol
he shot that with a phone which is very impressive
This was M24????
Looks so different lol
It's this section but I shot it in NIR/R/G
ghats cool
I don't think I have anywhere near as much integration as you but I mostly just wanted the stars tbh
I havw 5hrs
nearly 2 years apart
I got you
55mm lens at f5.6 untracked M101
About 1 ish years with a new setup and camera
Did I improve ?
October 12th, 2024
August 6th, 2025
Only a bit 
Crazy improvement man well done
the yellow looks a bit off imo but very nice
about a year difference. Switched from OSC to mono
A lil over a year
btw, I tried editing the left one on Photoshop express on my phone and cooked the ever loving shit out of it (lol) but I have been using Siril ever since and was able to do it some justice this year
Damn!
Osc isn’t thaaaaat bad 😭
This was an Osc cam
Osc is very capable if you use it right and give it enough time
nobody ever said it isnt
its just that mono is much more capable with the same amount of time
Absolutely true!
You get more natural color reproduction with OSC unless you go out of your way to get filters with ramping, overlapping bandpasses
First time on North American nebula vs most recent image
same data (<30 minutes) in b9 skies
'Ery Noice
1 year difference
1.5 year difference
10mins 30s untracked and 7hrs tracked
~2 year difference
left was with 55-250mm kit lens and right was 70-200 f/2.8L
stars are incredibly sharp
left is 70mm f/4.5 and right is 70mm f/2.8
across the whole fov
heres my photo of the same framing last yr
stars are practically lines at the edge
this was wide open with the 50 1.8 though
are you untracked?
back then yes
nah ima keep it like that
for the memories
be a representation of my skill back then
i might redo it though if i get time
@sharp lake dms good sir
yes
Less than a year difference
Really good improvement
Well… it is a new camera 😅 but other than that the setup is the same
Switched from a ZWO 183color to a ToupTek 585 mono
How its going vs how it started
2 nights vs 12 nights. Still going
Did you just went backwards?
The only thing that stayed the same between the rigs was the camera lol
Better image:
EOS 1500D unmodified
EQ6-R
uniguide 50mm + ZWO ASI120MM Mini
SW 200PDS (visual version, borrowed from my schools science department lol) F5 focal ratio
Controlled using NINA
1hr 20mins data
Worse image:
Celestron 4se (alt-az configuration) f12.5 focal ratio
Same camera
Unguided
No control software
45mins data
Accidentally and couldn't be bothered to fix lol
crazy
For reference, this is me now but with my main scope (WO GT71)
But after borrowing that 8" newt, I want one now
you dipped your toes into the reflector cult and it felt good huh? 
Well the thing is, this specific reflector was terrible because the school has owned it for years and it's tattered, screws are jammed, paint peeling...etc
But a new one would be perfect
So I want a new one hehehe
I already had plans for either an 8" or 10"
Same data damn I just realised I’ve regressed
I think the new one used the wrong stack
Half the integration damnit
New is left one 
Eh, skip that and go directly to 16" or 24". From the guy who currently has an 8".
... which honestly I'm quite happy to have, really. She's taught me a lot of things and is named "Rio".
haha im not too high on apeture fever... for now
that's how it all starts lol
one moment you're happy with an 8" dob, the next moment you want a 20" obsession
~7 month difference
300mm vs 85mm lens
Star adventurer 2i vs EQ-AL55i
~2.5h from b8 for both
Progress of about 10 months 🙂
Nicee
4 years of progress, I have some in-between shots as well, these were much better, but still this first try, versus last try is night and day
first deep sky on a dob to now what i can do with it
proof its not alwayts about the equiptment
rig?
first was a seestar, second was a bigger lens XD
Cool, but the M31 image looks almost starless
Oh hell yeah he does.
Thanks for the feedback
Didn't realize, but I sent an older processed image
Better, nice
Keep going btw
About 1 year between each image
… and two cameras too but isothermal than that I still have both telescopes and just kept upgrading them
2017 through 2025, admittedly with increasing aperture but also capture and processing experience too.
Low key annoying that rings are trying to hide
what a comparison, what you can capture now is actually crazy
Difference between 2nd and 3rd is crazy
the rings are scared of you
what is next?
Looks like, in order:
- My first image taken through my 8" w/ a cell phone;
- First halfway decent image taken using my 8", 2 stacked 2x Barlow lenses, and an SV105
- What I'm getting to (Edited to add: cursed seeing)
- Last 2 are what I want to do ... and hope to do if I can ever get my 24" so I can finally share something comparable to you/Damien
Oh and did I mention? Cursed seeing.
i have a question
why did saturns beatiful light-blue rings become boring
I think it's to do with the angle they appear to us at the moment. They were angled towards us before, and therefore received more light as they had more visible surface area. Now that they're almost perfectly flat to us, there's less visible light reflecting off of them, making them appear darker and duller.
That or it's just a difference in processing between Tom's newest images and his older images, which would not surprise me.
They are dimmer due to the angle to the Sun, that’s correct
And they back-scatter blue light a little more when close to opposition so they indeed change colour too
Congrats on winning the ppl and space on astro of the yr
many thanks
if the first attempt would have been as good as the last image, you reckon you would have resolved the Saturn's hexagon?
your image really is inspiring. like... i really want to invest in a big S dob and try it myself 😂
Both untracked, one with a dslr and the other with a 585
did you invert the colours for the recent one?
No, idk what happened
did you colour calibrate?
Yea

Did you do anything else with the color before that?
It came out purple from the stack
definitely not normal
Did you have any weird color setting on while stacking it?
maybe try checking of the software you're using has the wrong bayer pattern. Also, if youre using Siril, you can try inverting the colors, making the purple green, then removing green noise, and finally reverting the colors to normal
if all else fails, see if you can do some hue adjustements in Photoshop/Gimp
Holy shit bro
Good stuff
Testing the limits of dslr since like 2023
Fr
nope. is stock
I got a chance to borrow a cooled cam and compare it to my modded DSLR and legit 1 sub on the cooled cam is like a stack of 5-10 with the dslr
And this is during the winters so I bet it's even worse in the summers
only difference is a duoband filter and a mount upgrade (and more knowledge)
the duoband filter carried trust
trust
i really need to get one
i still only have one filter and its a 7 dollar svbony uvir cut 😭
Cooked on the saturation
which one is cooked
Right
Not bad data or anything I just think you’ve pushed sat way too far
That’s should do the trick
@carmine hill How’s it going
i fogor
processing shiv's 67 tub
tub
tuc
Bruh
gooder?
Send full file
gud
Better
Difference with and without the svbony 7nm duoband filter
100% recommend
I mean I processed my Lagoon image like this, I embrace green
Green supremacy
2023 (unmodded DSLR) vs 2025 (RGB and SHO)
Sick processing on the SHO one
The second one is the newest just a few months difference in processing.
2023 -> 2024 -> 2025
wow
2021 vs 2025
1 year apart. Left is 8h with a DSLR and right is a WIP project, 6h of Ha
I think i have the one your talking about and yes this thing makes a hell of a difference please use it on full moon or light polluted nights
unc been doing ts since covid 🥀
before
'Ery Noice
Why did I feel youve gone backwards
cause your feeling is so so wrong
Why i cant post img
You are not >=mininerd
you only need protostar prem, not mininerd
only change was the camera
i told sam to go light on the denoise
image it for so long that the rotated spikes make a circle and it looks like an sct image

good idea
I posted before
On the left is the original processing from 2023 using Photoshop and on the right is the reprocess in Pixinsight.
While Pix did had better control over the data, I wish I knew better how to handle the blue fringes around the stars.
There are channels in which anyone can post but not this one
Must be a recent change or smth maybe to stop spam
currently i have no actual photos of stuff but im getting a phone adapter is that okay
Thats more than okay
i remember the days of your crappy processing and look where you are now 
thankss 
Brother what hell did you have to carry with 31 entire hours of untracked
these 2 orion shots were taken EXACTLY 1 year apart ( I got tracked and got a dedicated astrocam, same OTA though)
Huh. How same OTA?
same 6" dob tube lol
Crazy. Which one? (Name?)
the 150/1200 classic skywatcher dob
damn, its sharp
Its a newt so
This one?
yes
Damn. Did not know they are so sharp
They arent, mine is just superior
Did you mod it?
no its just amazing idk😭 got the best copy or smth
bruh. Image truely looks amazingly sharp
thx, that dob isnt meant for astrophotography at all lol
Does the secondary mirror holder flex or smth?
October 2024 vs October 2025
quite an improvement!
makes me wanna quit astro and gauge my eyes out with a spoon (jk this is pretty
)
yo this isnt the roast channel 💀
2023, 2024, 2025.
Difference between apperture and focal length
1st - 11hrs with stock dslr 55-250mm kit lens
2nd - ~2hrs with ASI183MC pro with C9.25
2025 is one of the best images ive ever seen of this region
1st is my latest second is my first stack
Nice Progress!
Thank youuu
Just don't mind the circular Noise all around the edges
Roughly exactly one year difference
Roughly exactly 🗣️ 🔥
… I just realised that 😂😂
11 months appart 🙂
Don’t do both, DBEs can harm dust in the bg or the colours of things. Typically I stick with manual DBE in pix
Oh alright
first vs second iteration of pac man (2022 vs 2025)
Which is which????
🥀

Very first M31 (first ap in general) vs the last M31 I shot a few months ago
Following up the M31 train!
Old: Astromaster 80mm F11, Nexstar SE mount, Nikon D3500 unmodded, 20-40 minute integration?
New: WO Whitecat 51, HEQ 5 pro, Touptek 2600MM, Touptek LRGBSHO 3.5nm 36mm filters, 26h 50m in LRGBHa
me looking at your images
More seriously; the evolution is amazing, the fov is incredible, colors as well, the ha as well, and the stars
it's inspiring !
2023 vs. 2025 (still a wip)
Geebaz that's a nice Pleiades. I haven't even taken a photo with my new camera.
pay2win (last year's Orion was taken with a DSLR I borrowed, a Mak-Cass on a mostly manual mount, hand dithered with an intervalometer; this year's was taken with the RC lmao)
which is which? 
I like the old one more
Good. I put more effort into it.
exactly 1 year apart, left is untracked phone astro with the dobsonian and right is tracked with astrocam but same dob tube
Theyre both great
but one is a lot better
That indeed
But for an untracked Photo this is great
ye it was really hard to get
Can Imagine
I tried untracked for a VERY short time with the roki and i pretty much emidiately gave Up (If i dont Count the Polaris ifn but thats Kind of cheating)
polaris ifn is always cool to see
9 months apart, only change was my camera, right is 9 months ago, other 2 are recent
all untracked
is the old one my process too
yea
nvm its kayque stars who processed it
On the left was the first good shot that I got of this region using a DSLR and the 130PDS. March 11th, 2024. On the right is the second time I shot it but with a full mono setup and same telescope. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the monumental difference achieved in such short time. I gotta say that most of the improvements were achieved in this server from people who actually gave me useful advice. Thank you all
Years difference between first two and the current one
Your lens produces diffraction spikes?
I had a friend 3d print a diffraction mask so that I could experiment a bit
I personally love the look of them on some targets
Yeah they look very good
sept 2024 --> dec 2024 --> nov 2025
processing improvement all on the same data (not my data btw but my processing)
about 2 weeks of intense learning fueled by the motivation of achieving what the original data acquisitor managed. i still i havent gotten there yet though:
2 days ago vs last night
Alnitak is wild
where’d the star go
What’d you do with my precious Alnitak
put it back
Hell nah alnitak sucks
I love Alnitak
ring neb 2024 vs 2025
Ive seen this pic more than my mom

Ok this is fire
This makes me wanna redo ring nebula
You did a very good job on M81 and M82. Congrats! I wish you clear skies so the next images are gonna be even better
Thank you!!
fantastic i stumbled on this on astrobin earlier today lol
wait was it astrobin
Probably 12 or 16 inch dob with Barlow
Iirc rat had a 8" SCT (nvm wrong rat disregard this
)
All you need is good seeing to get something like that from an 8", I've seen a 5" get close.
9 months appart!
Same canon 600D & 300mm f/5.6 lens
Star adventurer 2i vs EQ-AL55i
Both in bortle 9
8 mins vs 3h30
1 year difference
A bit overstretched on both
3 years difference... the only thing that stayed the same is the laptop which I used for processing
Huh
The image on the right the background is a bit cooked
But like I'm pixel peeping
