#DSLR Astrophotography

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fresh frigate
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If my polar alignment is getting worse throughout the night, is it because I'm set up in the grass and should be on harder ground?

wild jasper
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it shouldnt change at all

spark pollen
round salmon
fleet latch
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are SLRs allowed here

bleak rain
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guys is it possible to take good picture of the milky way with canon camera and tripod?

wild jasper
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yes ive done it

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veyr easy

karmic shoal
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kit lens 15-55mm

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iso 1600

muted night
muted night
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no worries!

wild jasper
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and this is 38mins

bleak rain
wild jasper
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yes

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thats what stack is

bleak rain
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Dark frames and bias frams?

spark pollen
bleak rain
wild jasper
wild jasper
bleak rain
spark pollen
spark pollen
wild jasper
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hot pixels can be removed with rejection algorithms with effective dithering

spark pollen
wild jasper
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main thing they are for is removing ampglow

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hot pixels can already be removed in the stacking phase so it doesnt matter too much

muted night
wild jasper
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you should be dithering regardless and use pixel rejection

muted night
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too True, I get forgetful sometimes 😂

sour ore
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Modded my dslr now it may be cooked

fading osprey
sour ore
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When I close the sd card slot cover it turns the camera off

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The switch inside is misregistering

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Or something

broken cloak
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20 min integration, i want try for 2/3h

shadow shoal
cerulean sky
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Orion is back in the southern hemisphere, cant wait to take thousends of untracked exposures of it again 😭

lament agate
cerulean sky
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Atleast at 24° south it is, probably even higher in the sky at more northern latitudes

quaint tulip
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Hey guys currently looking of buying a DSLR camera but don't know what specs should I look out for and are the older models still good for ap and daytime photography. And what is better DSLR or mirrorless. I think I can buy a second hand to save some money but still don't know which model is good enough

cerulean sky
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I have a 2010 Nikon D5300, pretty good camera all around, not sure if its the best for ap but its great

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Took this with it

quaint tulip
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That picture is amazing thanks for the info and do you know what specs should I look up for?

cerulean sky
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Id say a good sensor, but any mid range dslr can do the job just fine

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Its mosty about getting a good lens, one with big aperture

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I have a 200mm f4.5 lens, works quite well

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Though lenses can be quite expensive these days

quaint tulip
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Thanks mate

cerulean sky
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Np 🙌

spark skiff
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I got the same camera, what bortle? Any advice you could give?

quiet solar
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I was told Sigma 150-600 HSM is not usable for Astro.. What a rubbish.. This is fixed version 2h from Bortle 3.. Nikon D780

quaint tulip
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But Bortle 3 is good tho

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I am at between bortle 6 and 7 can I expect any result with DSLR camera?

open musk
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I also have that bortle and i did some milkyway widefield with just a phone

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I think my result was decent

quaint tulip
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That is great I should try it with my phone too

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Never tought of it

open musk
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no don't lol

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if you have a dslr use it and not the phone

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i only do phone bc I don't have a dslr

quaint tulip
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No I am thinking of buying DSLR but at the time I have only small Bresser 70/700 telescope and my phone

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And I want to buy unmodified DSLR so that way I can use it for daytime also

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To justify the money

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You did short exposure and stacked them or how?

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I want to try it

open musk
open musk
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and yea stacked ofc

quaint tulip
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Ok thanks mate!

quiet solar
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I live at Bortle 8 at London - 300mm to 700mm you can catch Orion, Andromeda in 2h - some Galaxies too. This is the same Sigma 600mm Nikon D780 test on Bodies and Cigar Galaxy, about 2h.

quiet solar
quaint tulip
quiet solar
# quaint tulip That picture is amazing

Thx however it was just traker test 😉 Never belive something is impossible I was told Galaxies are no no from Big Town. The trick is to have good histogram at 1/3th and good tracking mount or traker and Siril with Background extraction will do magic - it will remove a lot of light polutttion

quaint tulip
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Yea nothing is impossible if you are willing to put on the work. I don't have star tracker tho which should I get? And can I do anything without a star tracker?

quiet solar
quaint tulip
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That's good news thanks

shadow shoal
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yeah its decent, a tracker is quite important though (and a decent lens)

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lemme dig out something i did untracked

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40m exposure

quaint tulip
shadow shoal
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(eos 90d 180mm lens)

shadow shoal
quaint tulip
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Oh yea I saw it

quiet solar
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Nicko Carver from Nebula Astro took very faint Nebula around North Star no tracker at all check this out https://youtu.be/iuMZG-SyDCU?feature=shared

Join me as I show you every step of capturing the Orion nebula with normal photography gear. The video will show planning, capture, and processing with DeepSkyStacker and Photoshop. Example files for this video and other resources on my website here: https://www.nebulaphotos.com/resources/orion-no-tracker/

If you don't use Photoshop, watch the ...

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quaint tulip
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It's amazing

quiet solar
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This is Grate way to test and learn things - and the lack of the tracker makes all process more simple. Good thing is lack of the tracker will force you to understand things to get results.

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All of - ok most of Astro photos are black from the camera so it takes a bit to steach it out 😉

grizzled cedar
spark skiff
karmic belfry
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SUP GUYS

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just found this forum

sour ore
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What if my dslr is not stock

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Single sub 2 minute exposures no filters just modded

karmic belfry
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Full spectrum?

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@sour ore

sour ore
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No

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Lpf2 removal

karmic belfry
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Oh

mint island
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My first planetary animation ever!
Focal Length 900mm
Aperture 114mm
Canon 600d
Untracked
Seeing 4/10
Collimation 6/10
Around 50 min before battery run out

karmic belfry
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Nice

quiet mango
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hello. so i have an unmodded canon 200D, with a 55-250mm f4-5.6 EFS kit lens that i use in tandem with an ioptron skyguider pro. i recently got a 120USD amazon gift card from my work place. i can bump it up to 200 by putting in something out of my own pocket. what would you guys recommend i invest in next.

for reference i recently shot this (north american nebula) from a bortle 8-9. It's about 51 mins integration at 45s subs, no dither. i am planning a trip to a dark sky location once the monsoons clear where i live.

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i would also appreciate feedback and advice on the above shot

spark pollen
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Some images of the northern lights I got with a stock canon t3i and a 18-55 kit lens

mint island
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moon with Canon 600D and 900mm Scope

spark pollen
mint island
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@spark pollen i stacked 70% of 79 raw frames

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Couldn't get more because of clouds

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Unpopular opinion but I enjoy noise in AP doge

spark pollen
mint island
spark skiff
spark pollen
karmic belfry
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Short exposures stacked are better than long exposures stacked

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Shorter the better

spark skiff
spark pollen
mint island
sour ore
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That's not unpopular that's unseen

wild jasper
feral ridge
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somebody who can help me to fix my cam?

compact drum
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Hello,i want to buy a canon eos 100d, i will need an adaptor?Can someone tell me some important things about astrophotography with a DSLR?

karmic belfry
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Yes you will need a canon t ring which you can buy for around £10 if you go unbranded and £30 ish if you go branded

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Well depends if your using a telescope or just the dslr with a lens

weary flicker
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short question

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Is a Canon eos 6D (unmodded) fine for astro?

karmic belfry
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One sec

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Yeah rlly good

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Has a big sensor bigger than my 450d

sour ore
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mod that

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as a person who did astro with an unmodded camera for a year

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mod it

lament agate
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as a person with an unmodded camera, mod it

nocturne merlin
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As a ducc with an unmodded camera, mod it

lament agate
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as a thin non german terrestrial bovine, mod your cam

candid walrus
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As a person who has had a unmodded cam and modded it, mod it

spark skiff
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As a camera who had an unmodded person, mod it

twin pawn
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Modified*

candid walrus
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Modded: “an act or instance of modifying something, especially a vehicle or mechanical part” pepeCool

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Says lower down about computer hardware parts too, didn’t bother adding it XD

karmic belfry
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As a telescope with no tracker mod it

compact drum
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Can someone tell me some things about settings for astrophotography?I want to use it at a telescope.

weary flicker
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Won't buy it modified

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Lol

candid walrus
# weary flicker Won't buy it modified

Modded is really essential for astrophotography, most of the dust in nebulae are red, a very deep red, now the issue lies because DSLRs have a built in filter that actually cuts out that red, so you won’t really get any of that red, which is quite important

weary flicker
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Can I habe it modded afterwards?

karmic belfry
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You can mod a camera anytime but you cant revert it unless you buy external filters

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So you would no longer be able to do daytime photography

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@weary flicker

weary flicker
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Cant I just change light balance when the camera is modded?

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For daylight photography

spark skiff
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You can process the image to make it look normal

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But it's not gonna be fun when you take like 80 pics during a trip

weary flicker
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Ok

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Bruh

slow moon
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Just use a custom white balance but the downside is that you would need to take a picture of white reference for each lighting setting (correct me if im wrong nerds)

weary flicker
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Oh

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I won't have it modded

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xD

spark skiff
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IR cut filters aren't that expensive I think

weary flicker
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Mhmm

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Maybe I'll get it modded afterwards

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At first I gonna get used to it

karmic belfry
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Svbony aswell

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Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out! £17.25 | SVBONY 1.25''/2''/36mm Filter UV/IR Cut Telescope Optics Infra Red Filter for Astronomy Accessories
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EwQvTm1 @weary flicker

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Its £7.50 rn

weary flicker
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Id get it for 0.99€ xD

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It sais "welcome greeting"

karmic belfry
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Oh nice lol even better

nocturne merlin
karmic belfry
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He means since he is a new user he will get it for 0.99

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@nocturne merlin

nocturne merlin
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But its still a cheap filter

karmic belfry
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Not rlly

nocturne merlin
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Definetly is

karmic belfry
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Its good enough for most people i know

nocturne merlin
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Well if it works, but i hav heard the opposite too

karmic belfry
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Dayum

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Accidentally caught ngc 1647 trying to focus on aldebaran 😭😂

nocturne merlin
# karmic belfry

Seems that ngc is rlly smol, u sure ur that zoomed in?:D also wouldnt it be way too dim for such a short exp time xd

karmic belfry
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One sec

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@nocturne merlin

nocturne merlin
spark skiff
karmic belfry
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I took it on the night

wild jasper
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dont even need that, you can just press the prtscr button

karmic belfry
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I wasnt planning on imaging thos

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So why would i for one photo that i was only mainly showing one person?

spark skiff
karmic belfry
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And plus i had no wifi in my garden cuz of my old wifi chip in my laptop

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And plus again it was like 30 mins till sunrise and i had no data so i was rushing

compact drum
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What I need to connect my dslr at my telescope?

wild jasper
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An T-ring.

lament agate
shadow rivet
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Captured this last night. About 10 minutes untracked with calibration frames. Does anyone know what that weird spot to the left is? I’m thinking my calibration frames might have caused it?

wet merlin
shadow rivet
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lol, good idea! Thank you!

noble dagger
hoary cradle
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Haha 350 second exposure with D5300, minor adjustment on phone editor. Got my AM3 in the mail and wanted to test tracking

latent lintel
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This was my first time trying to stack an image with my dslr, definitely think need to try longer exposures next time

hoary cradle
cerulean sky
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Could you also share the raw file, please? I kinda wanna give it a try

hoary cradle
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Haha sure I can share it when in at home. I think I made some more that evening. Didn't bother background extraction on the single file yet

hoary cradle
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here is the raw file

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Heavily edited though and used topaz for denoising

slow moon
hoary cradle
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got nothing else rn haha

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astrosharp keeps crashing

slow moon
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Yeah do however you can, its just about it creating false details sometimes

karmic belfry
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Can somebody process some jupiter data for me?

hoary cradle
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Hard target for a stock dslr, 11 hours in and not sure if I'm getting more

slow moon
hoary cradle
slow moon
hoary cradle
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Thank you! Not sure if it's worth it to add about 10 more hours. Idk if I'm getting more red haha

jovial minnow
hoary cradle
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I'm resetting my PC today so it can take a while but I can dm you when its possible againastroThumbsUp

hoary cradle
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Do you have pix?

jovial minnow
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Yes

hoary cradle
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Nice, I don't haha

sour ore
karmic belfry
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Nice

weary flicker
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:>

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3min of Integration

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With Canon 6D

sour ore
slow moon
weary flicker
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50mm

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A lot of coma

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Had to crop most off

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7min of integration

weary flicker
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Works really well for normal photography but at night coma kicks in

slow moon
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Makes ypur andromeda even better cause its a short focal length

weary flicker
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Na

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Though I like the detail I got from only 3min I rather would have had a higher fl

slow moon
weary flicker
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Whatever 🤷🏻‍♂️

brisk shale
dense yew
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my second attempt at andromeda galaxy!

pastel wren
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Same questions for @brisk shale

dense yew
dense yew
pastel wren
pastel wren
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Understood. Thanks very much for the info

dense yew
brisk shale
languid haven
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12h with a stock d750

spark skiff
languid haven
spark skiff
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How

languid haven
spark skiff
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Damn, nice image tho

languid haven
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thankyou!

brisk shale
slow moon
noble dagger
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Processing

pastel wren
languid haven
compact drum
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Guys what do you think about an canon 1100d?

karmic belfry
compact drum
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@karmic belfry i don't gonna buy it new

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So i can't find any camera

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Unless this one

karmic belfry
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I mean used

compact drum
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Yeah but i can't find any other camera

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A Canon Eos 100d is better?

karmic belfry
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What scope

compact drum
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What?

karmic belfry
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What telescope u using

compact drum
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200/1200 dobson

karmic belfry
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Alr one sec

compact drum
karmic belfry
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What do u focus on

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Planetary?

karmic belfry
compact drum
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Deep sky

karmic belfry
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Alr

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There all basically the same size

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Thats with the 450d 100d 1100d

sour ore
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I wonder why dude

dense yew
sour ore
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NGC7000 North American Nebula

compact drum
karmic belfry
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One sec

karmic belfry
compact drum
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A bit or ?

karmic belfry
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Like the 1100d

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A 6d is the best

compact drum
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One sec to search more

compact drum
karmic belfry
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Ik

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For me £300

compact drum
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550d?

karmic belfry
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So 400 euro ish

karmic belfry
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If ur on a budget get a 1100d

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Cuz it had video

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Has*

compact drum
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5d?

karmic belfry
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One sec

compact drum
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5d better?

karmic belfry
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Mkii?

compact drum
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Whatz

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What is that

karmic belfry
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Send a pic of the 5d

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The listing

compact drum
karmic belfry
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Alr

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MUCH BETTER

compact drum
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I think i will get this one

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Is a bit expenisv but if its much better i will get it

karmic belfry
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Good stiff

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Stuff

weary flicker
weary flicker
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This only 3min integration of Andromeda with a 50mm

compact drum
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In my country a used one is 1000$

wild jasper
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18mins at 70mm

weary flicker
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With the 6d?

weary flicker
compact drum
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Romania

weary flicker
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Mhm

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Buy one from other country and pay shipment

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Still worth it

compact drum
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I wikl get a 5d

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I can get a 6d

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But ita not mark 2

weary flicker
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Doesn't matter

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There is mkII of the 6D too

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But it's bit more expensive kekw

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Just because it's mkII it doesn't mean it's better

compact drum
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Ok

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I will try to get a 6d

compact drum
weary flicker
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The Body of a camera is just the camera without a lens

weary flicker
compact drum
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And its good?

weary flicker
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what?

compact drum
weary flicker
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As you have a really low budget you may also consider the Canon eos 600Da

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'a' stands for astromoddifictated

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But if you want to use it for daylight photography you have a put a filter on it and have to adjust white balance

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Because you also have to buy a lens, which is normally quite expensive you rather should choose a low budget camera

compact drum
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I want to put it into the eyepiece

weary flicker
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only for astrophotography?

compact drum
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Yeah

weary flicker
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Not for anything else?

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Then a canon eos 600Da will probablybe sufficient

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But you need a adapter for camera in order to attach it the scope

compact drum
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I have onw

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And i need an t ring

weary flicker
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yap

compact drum
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Idk i can use it if i want to photograph a sunset or milkyway?

weary flicker
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Without a lens?

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no

compact drum
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And how much its a lens

weary flicker
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200$ ... increasing

compact drum
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ok

weary flicker
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Secondhand cheaper

compact drum
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PRETTY MUCH

weary flicker
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yap

weary flicker
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Ebay

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or mpb

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Depends on what you want to do

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There are zoom lenses

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Widefield

compact drum
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So if i get a canon eos 600da its ok?

weary flicker
weary flicker
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Better inform yourself of others too

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The eos 600Da is basically the camera everyone recommends for beginners with low budget

pallid tulip
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i have a canon 2000d is it also ok

upper willow
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It's ok'ish
Any camera will work. Some will be better.
Do not ask which one will be better, it is out of your budget ( and mine too )

shadow rivet
languid haven
spark skiff
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When you modified it, did you add any Ha filter?

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I sent mine to modify and I was watching your images, wondering if you just removed the UV/IR cut

spark skiff
grizzled cedar
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I’ve never heard of modification websites doing that tho

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Unless you got HA mod and a actual HA filter mixed up

spark skiff
grizzled cedar
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Yep

spark skiff
grizzled cedar
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No problem

karmic belfry
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Ima do full spec then see if i can get some glass to put infront so its not naked

dense yew
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m31 3.5 hours exposure time, 390 30 sec subs, iso 160, f5.6. any tips to make this better?

karmic belfry
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More data always helps

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Try maybe 5 hours total

spark pollen
karmic belfry
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I dont think i will cuz its not worth breaking my cam

spark pollen
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U gotta look really hard to see a difference

karmic belfry
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I aint modding it

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I have no use tbh

spark pollen
karmic belfry
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Nah

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I dont do emission nebulae

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Yet

spark pollen
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Stock dslr can’t see the ha wavelength pretty much at all so it will help with every nebula and galaxy

candid walrus
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Theres 2 filters inside the DSLR, the LPF-1 and LPF-2, you just want to remove the LPF-2 as that is the one that blocks out Ha, you can remove both to do a full spectrum mod, and do what i did (leave the sensor bare) or get a glass protection layer, itll help unbelievably with nebulae, wont change galaxies themselves though as they do not contain much Ha

dense yew
sour ore
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sharper

dense yew
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To what Aperture?

sour ore
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also run some graxpert on it

sour ore
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if ur at 5.6 do 7.1

dense yew
dense yew
sour ore
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it's kinda noisy tbh for that much integration

dense yew
sour ore
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I did 1.5 hours in b9 with the moon out, with a lens at f5.6, while I couldn't see polaris and has less noise

sour ore
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that's not the image?

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why would u post smth and not post the actual image

dense yew
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I can send the latest image

dense yew
sour ore
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guys look at my 5 picosecond integration on ring nebula, not actually the image u see but I wasn't bothered to actually post it

sour ore
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I thought it was just completely different images

dense yew
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Oh okay

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There is the tweaked image

sour ore
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still

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why the noise

dense yew
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Can’t get rid of it

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And my camera has pretty bad noise control

sour ore
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I don't mean like why is there noise I mean like why is there so much

dense yew
sour ore
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I mean urs is good

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I like the colors and all

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just oddly noisy

dense yew
timid flint
timid flint
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like

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i am attaching my filter to my t ring

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then i can’t go from there

twin pawn
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Show the scope your using @timid flint

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Since you have what looks like a 2" mounted filter, it's gonna have to thread onto the scopes focuser if it does actually have threads.

timid flint
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the filter doesnt stick out enough to catch on the threads so it just doesnt hold in the focuser

twin pawn
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Could you show the focuser?

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Or just tell me the specific scope being used.

timid flint
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1 sec

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this good ?

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as in the filter sticking out is too shot to catch onto the threads

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so i have to use the camera without the filter with this adapter. Adapter screws on t ring then gets threaded into the focuser and tighten in the two screws

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the the filter cant screw onto that adapter

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so i think i need another adapter so the filter screws on to it but also the camera but i dont know which one

timid flint
twin pawn
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It looks like your only option is a clip in filter that slots in directly into the camera body. Unfortunately iirc its Nikon and there's little to no clip in filters for Nikon aps-c.

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Which Nikon do you have?

timid flint
twin pawn
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Ahh yea

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Also, I will say that using a filter when doing untracked astro is hardly worth it.

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I assume that was a Dobsonian scope?

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Or was it on a motorized eq mount?

timid flint
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but i just dont know what it is

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cuz why would there be two thread things on each side of the filter

twin pawn
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It's for a coma corrector, field flattener, or even a filter wheel.

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They usually accept 2" filters such as the one you use

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Your focuser likely doesn't accept 2" filters natively.

timid flint
twin pawn
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You have to find out what the specific threads are for the end of your focuser.

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Or that adapter you have

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I guess thats what you were referring too

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Not the focuser

timid flint
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im trying out new stuff with a 1200 fl tube with a dogdy focuser that just doesnt wanna fit the filter in and im trying to make it work

timid flint
# twin pawn I guess thats what you were referring too

i was refering to the filter its got two sets of threads one where you connect it to the t ring and another on the other side where im like 90% sure you can sure an adapter to it so you can put it in the focuser and lock it in

twin pawn
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The filter shouldn't be holding the cam in the focuser. It's not design to take that type of stress.

twin pawn
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Astromania 2" T-2 Focal Camera Adapter Ⅱ for SLR Cameras - Simply Attach Your Camera to The Telescope https://a.co/d/7NSAZDV

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This right here threads onto your t ring (assuming it's M42) and allows you to thread on that 2" filter.

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Also

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One big thing you need to ensure, is if you can even reach focus with your DSLR.

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Most newtonian scopes don't have the amount of back focus DSLRs need. I couldn't reach focus using my Nikon d7200 and 8" Newtonian.

timid flint
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thats a very simple problem to solve tho

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already done it too so isnt a problem

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go to your local hardware store buy like a 10 pack of (i think) m5 bolts roughly 50mm long and push the primary mirror up

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makes the focus point go out of the focuser and able to reach the sensor

timid flint
timid flint
#

hopefully ill be able to find another one like that but from the uk

twin pawn
#

Yea should be the same thing

woeful phoenix
#

Cygnus loop, taken with a D5300 and an EvoStar 72ED mounted on a EQM35-Pro. Bortal 5 location, 7hrs of light-frames (2min subs)

karmic belfry
#

Some recent pics

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Altair Jupiter jupiter processed different and the moon

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I have better images of the moon just not on my phone

shadow rivet
#

M31 before and after Dithering using Rebel T7 kit and skywatcher star adventurer gti

pastel wren
shadow rivet
pastel wren
#

Thanks for the info!

shadow rivet
#

Early shot at M45.
Rebel t7 ISO 1600
60S total 2.5 hours guided with the Sky-Watcher star adventurer gti

Still using the kit lens that comes with the rebel t7

sterile matrix
sour ore
#

that problem was solved like a few months ago lol

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it was a faulty connector

sour ore
sterile matrix
#

Yeah, I was joking, don't take me seriously. Sorry.

sour ore
sour ore
sterile matrix
#

Yeah, sounds pretty interesting. Good thing you were able to fix it.

shadow rivet
#

120s exposures, 3 hours total.

pallid tulip
#

46min m45 with 1min subs and no flats, homemade tracking system, canon 2000d (unmodded), cheap 70-300mm lense

brisk shale
#

Canon Rebel T7i (Modified) Sky-watcher 150pds 3hours 25 sec sub

lament agate
hoary cradle
#

made a mosaic containing 6 panels of about 1 hour each. not getting the panels to look the same sadly

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stock nikon d5300 with a 130 pds on a am3

sour ore
#

lots of wind so no detail

karmic belfry
#

Still sick tho bro!

pastel wren
#

27 images, 2 sec each. Canon 500D with 18-400mm lens. Focal length set at 200mm

sour ore
karmic belfry
#

No problem bro keep ur the sick work

shadow shoal
#

bump since it died lol

open musk
#

is a dslr better than a cheap planetary cam?

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by cheap i mean like >150 dollar

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player one sells mars c cheaper than that

desert rampart
open musk
#

i do already have a uranus c and it's obviously better than a dslr, but thats staying in my main setup

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so no im not raising the budget to get the imx585

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I just want another cheap cam for another setup

desert rampart
quiet mango
#

6 hours from a bortle 8 and unmodded dslr

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any recommendations on what i can do to improve (other than getting myself some dark skies ofc). i currently use an unmodded aps-c dslr, with a 55-250mm f4-5.6 kit lens, and an ioptron skyguider pro. i am thinking of investing in one of the following: a. filters, b. better lens, c. modified camera

desert rampart
quiet mango
desert rampart
#

I think give someone your data to edit and see if it's improving, if it does
Practice on processing
If doesn't improve then upgrade equipment

Also make sure you are doing capturing perfectly with no mistakes

desert rampart
#

If it's nebulosity, then maybe give data to someone else to process

quiet mango
#

i am actually getting much better at capturing i feel. my balancing has gotten to a point where i dont really see any tracking errors. i am thinking of bumping my subs up to 60s from 30s. dont know how much that would help though

quiet mango
desert rampart
#

What's the focal length? Maybe try to go with lower fl..

desert rampart
#

Share like your Google folder link but make sure it's only allowed to JUST SEE THE DATA not edit or anything.

quiet mango
#

yeah i just posted it with my stacked file.

desert rampart
#

which focal length did you shoot at??

quiet mango
#

it's at 250mm

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f5.6

desert rampart
#

bruh

quiet mango
#

ISO 400

desert rampart
#

thats the problem

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dont go for higher fl at 8bortle skies

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maybe like 135-150mm

quiet mango
#

for real? tbh my images come out worse at 55mm from bortle 8. like the light gradients are impossible to deal with. also i am pretty much limited to either 55mm or 250mm on my zoom lens because anything in between is going to be impossible to replicate on subsequent nights and i am afraid of it being knocked down to some other focal length when i am taking flats for example

desert rampart
quiet mango
#

any reason why higher focal lengths are worse under light pollution?

desert rampart
#

its worse in general

quiet mango
#

in 1 year of doing this i have only tried 55mm and 250mm, nothing in between, so i am not sure of the advantages of 135mm for example

desert rampart
#

even our lens are not good

desert rampart
#

if we have a astrograph we can go for higher focal length but we are already behind in comparism of lens quality

desert rampart
#

i am happy that you didnt got upset and left the data to only 3 hours

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🫂

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i am editing your data rn, its good like really good but the noise is too hard to cancel

quiet mango
#

yeah i get it. i mean you do raise an interesting point, i can't really visualise it in my head though. tell you what, i will try doing like an hour on pleiades tonight at a lower focal length around 135mm or so before i get more data on the horse. i have done pleiades before at 250mm so i will be able to compare them.

quiet mango
desert rampart
#

yeah thats great i am planning to start untracked this vacation

quiet mango
desert rampart
#

any tips from you will be great as you have done that

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like gears and all, i have budget of 500us dollar

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i have nothing beside a phone and tripod(cheap 20dollar)

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i think because you are doing those layers thing the details are washing out

quiet mango
#

bro honestly, the BIGGEST difference maker is always a star tracker honestly. i mean my stuff from before getting a star tracker and after getting a star tracker is like a day and night difference. i think ioptron are doing like a christmas sale right now and the skyguider pro is like 300ish bucks. i honestly dont think the camera and lens matters that much in the beginning. i am using my sister's old dslr which she never used and just had lying around at home.

since you will be starting from scratch, i would recommend you get the best deal possible on a star tracker, and then compromise on the camera and lens with whatever you have got left.

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though i am sure more experienced people on here could have better advice for you

quiet mango
desert rampart
#

so i will start as untracked and when i save some money i will buy a star tracker

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i know star tracker are lot helpfull but no choice

quiet mango
#

isn't there anything on the second hand market you could go for?

desert rampart
#

soo...

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i am going for canon t3i 200 dollar used(max), 75-300mm lens(100 dollar max), tripod used: 70 dollar, intervalometer like 30-40 bucks, dew heater 25 bucks

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this will come under 500 dollar

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so no chance for star tracker

quiet mango
#

i mean fair enough, i dont really know much about camera and lens prices seeing as i never bought my own. didn't think it would be that expensive. from what i have heard the t3i is quite good for beginners though right? also make sure you get the 75-300mm EF lens. idk if they have a EF-S variant of it, so just make sure you get the EF one, otherwise you wont be able to play around with filters in the future. that's the problem i have lol

quiet mango
#

i guess that's pretty solid advice - futureproof your present buys

desert rampart
#

i hope you get to go somewhere with dark skies soon

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🤠

quiet mango
#

thanks my man 🙇‍♂️

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clear skies to you too

desert rampart
#

the walking noise is too much to handle lol

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but i think its better than that version

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😆

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you fried the flame nebula and thats why it was looking bad

quiet mango
#

i mean yeah fairs lol. the flame does look better in this one. the one thing we can definitely conclude from this though, is that i really need me some dark skies xd

desert rampart
#

i am in bortle 5 skie

desert rampart
#

let me show you my try on orion constellation

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yours is way better than mine

quiet mango
desert rampart
quiet mango
#

woah that's really good man i think i can even see the barnard's loop a bit

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and rosette to the left i think

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its really good. all from your phone?

desert rampart
#

yeah

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41 min integration

quiet mango
#

nice man, really cool

bleak meadow
#

1 min subs, 281 lights (around 4.5 hours) under Bortle 4 skies, Canon Rebel Xsi (H alpha mod) with 55 - 250 mm kits lens set at 135 mm

spark pollen
#

Like 5 hours on the horse head and flame nebula Astrotech 60ed, skywatcher gti, modded cannon t3i and a uv/ir cut filter

desert rampart
bleak meadow
languid haven
#

sorry guys I bought a 533

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here are my last 2 pics with a stock dslr

desert rampart
#

533?

karmic shoal
shadow shoal
north leaf
rare atlas
#

and theres only the galaxy in there

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my background kind of like this

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what a mess

karmic shoal
#

You can use one for free with Siril

open musk
rare atlas
#

yessir

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maybe ill photoshop

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using mask tool

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did some fix...

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kind of hell to fix

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idk with this

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thoughts?

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Nvm still sucks with those noise and gradients

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Ill just add more integration time

twin pawn
#

Flats are very important

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If done properly they can remove those circular gradients

cerulean sky
rare atlas
#

Onyl 11 minutes

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Only*

rare atlas
zenith thicket
zenith thicket
#

I have a as new Nikon D200 but after reading many articles I realise I need to upgrade it. I don't have a lot of budget and reading articles like this https://www.markshelley.co.uk/Astronomy/camera_summary.html#SonyA7SII_A7III_A7RIIII
I am not sure what the hell to buy. I can get a D300 which has live view for not a lot of money <£100 and possibly a Sony A7S for under £300.

My main interest is in taking shots of Orion and other DSO

primal grail
#

hey i use a CANON 450D and all my images look...soft, there is no sharp detail in there is that a resolution problem? i use it on 750mm fl telescope, the camera has a 5.1um pixels and a APS-C sensor if that matters. here the issue is mostly visible in the nebulocity in andromeda, in my opinion it's lacking detail for some reason

shadow shoal
#

how much exposure was that?

primal grail
shadow shoal
#

untracked?

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oh the cam is from 2008

primal grail
#

but it's on all my images this is the most recent one, i have a 4h exposure on NGC 4406 and it looks the same

primal grail
#

i have guiding now but weather doesn't let me take anything decent with it

primal grail
shadow shoal
#

my guess is either poor seeing, poor processing, limits of the scope or the camera being from 2008

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probably poor processing or cam badness

primal grail
#

scope is a 150/750 so i think it's fine
seing is the thing i still can't figure out how to mesure
and the camera is introducing a lot of noise according to internet
and about procesing i don't even know what could make it blury

twin pawn
#

It's very old now but has plenty of potential for a 50 USD cam

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What you want to focus on is dithering, since you have a guiding system. This will eliminate the walking noise present in your images, which is quite difficult to reduce as your eye notices it instantly.

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Here you can see the noise is "traveling" horizontally. This is due to the frame slowly drifting left or right during the night as your images are being taken.

open musk
#

or is there smth else better for really cheap too

twin pawn
#

What cam do you use now?

open musk
#

uranus c but that's for my main setup, planning to buy another really cheap dslr to do some widefield while my main images

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the ease of use stuff like flip out display doesn't matter since ill use it with a pc

twin pawn
#

I mean it's solid for the price, also fairly easy to modify. It honestly should be modified to get the most out of it.

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Would you be using it with camera lenses?

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Such as a 50mm prime or more ultra wide angle?

twin pawn
#

Taking darks that are temp matched within at least +- 3° will also heavily reduce thermal noise and any amp glow.

open musk
#

Probably pentax takumar 200mm f/4

open musk
primal grail
twin pawn
spark pollen
quasi breach
#

To buy a 450d and astromod it? Or to stick with my 5d mark iii and just use it (I'm way too scared to astromod the 5d mark iii and there doesn't seem to be a massive amount of info online about doing it)

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Can get a 450d for like 60 euro on mpb right now

lament agate
spark pollen
quasi breach
#

Is it something I could do on my own? Or should I try get a camera repair shop to do it

fading osprey
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U just need some small screwdrivers and a razor blade

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I’d also recommend a screw organizer

quasi breach
# fading osprey astromods r easy

Yeah there's just no guide on doing it to the 5d mark iii itself it seems. If there was I'd definitely do it. Especially if it was reversible

spark skiff
lament agate
#

see you guys later

twin pawn
#

Ain't no way bros getting a new one

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Aren't there used ones for like 800 aud?

lament agate
#

the only used one got sold a few hours ago

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i literally just asked the guy but didnt get there in time

wild jasper
#

That's how much a 585 cooled is

twin pawn
lament agate
#

looked for ages

twin pawn
#

Dam

lament agate
#

even on those websites straight out of myspace days

fresh frigate
lament agate
#

I have an ASIAIR

fresh frigate
#

Ahhh 💀

twin pawn
#

Asiair moment

vast stirrup
rare atlas
#

23 minutes of my carina nebula

sour ore
frank dragon
#

My fist astro image. 127mm Triplet with 17 year old Nikon d700. It has some weird banding going on which I have seen a few people comment on.

rare atlas
#

I want to ask something, when shooting stars pic, is it ok to change the temperature or keep the same temperature? When you do like alot of session astrophotography

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Cuz i shoot the stars with auto settings, sometimes it goes purple, or green

spark skiff
wild jasper
rare atlas
rare atlas
wild jasper
#

I leave it on daylight

rare atlas
#

Is it clipped?

wild jasper
#

Whitebalence isn't used for astro

wild jasper
rare atlas
#

But if keep going to shoot with auto

wild jasper
#

Keep it on daylight

rare atlas
#

Is it going to disturb the stacking process?

rare atlas
#

Thanks

wild jasper
frank dragon
north leaf
#

has anyone attempted the seagull with a stock dslr?

wild jasper
#

Yes

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It was during a full moon and I didn't get much intergration

north leaf
#

Will get atleast 7 hours

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there's no moon

vast stirrup
primal grail
languid haven
ancient dew
fallen bear
#

Hey I was wondering what the best beginner-friendly dslr is, I also want one that will take nice pictures if I acquire more experience throughout the year

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Is the canon t7i or t5i a good one?

wild jasper
#

Good

brittle mirage
fallen bear
#

Could u show me some pictures u were able to obtain with that camera if possible?

brittle mirage
#

I must say, I never used it for astro, mostly for normal photography but I know people astromod them

fallen bear
#

Oh ok sounds good

brittle mirage
fallen bear
#

Oh wow

brittle mirage
#

Dunsfold 2019 with the 70-200mm f2.8 mk1

fallen bear
#

That’s cool

brittle mirage
#

Canon 100mm macro

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Canon 50mm f1.8

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Also the 100mm macro

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I should stop as these aren't exactly astro photos as per the channel name

shy hollow
#

im a complete beginner and im stunned what you can do with just a dslr an tripod

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and u can also combine it with a dob

shy hollow
wild jasper
#

3 hours.

shy hollow
#

huh

wild jasper
#

3 hours.

shy hollow
#

how long whre ur subs?

wild jasper
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No star tracker

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2 seconds

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3320x2s iirc

shy hollow
#

damn

wild jasper
#

Raw subs only were 108gb

shy hollow
#

wel did u wait 2 days for dss then ?

wild jasper
#

Stacked In pixinsight. Had to stack each night Individually

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If I wanted to stack it all together at once, it would've taken up 3tb

shy hollow
#

crazy but i like it 😂

wild jasper
#

Yea it was a mad project

shy hollow
karmic shoal
ancient dew
karmic shoal
#

Oh yea

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MB.. But the tarantula nebula is still cool! You should look it up :>

ancient dew
#

It is my #1 target for when I visit Australia

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Ideally if I can take my 8" RC with me, it's a great target for using all 1624 mm of focal length

karmic shoal
#

Nice

north leaf
#

should I do lucky imaging with my mirrorless camera? by lucky imaging i mean 5 to 10 sec exposures, if yes should I use the electronic shutter?

wild jasper
#

5 second subs is not lucky imaging

north leaf
#

but will many 5 sec images work for whirlpool? as its a bright target

wild jasper
#

should be ok

lament agate
#

2.5min sub with astro cam vs 2.5hours with dslr, same scope

median pond
#

ive got an unmodded apsc mirrorless, 180mm lens, and a swsa 2i
any target recommendations for the upcoming new moon? preferably without any super bright stars since my lens has bad coma. also lat 35

ancient dew
wild jasper
#

statue of liberty nebula

primal grail
#

Flaming star nebula
13h21min

im supprised there isn't much more to see than on the previus 8h image

Canon 450D (no IR cut filter)
SW150/750

pallid tulip
red light
#

Is my a6400 good enough for astro?

karmic shoal
languid haven
#

even though I have an astro cam rn I reprocessed some stock dslr data from last summer

ancient dew
languid haven
languid haven
primal grail
primal grail
primal grail
languid haven
#

From now on you want to keep shooting at 1600

primal grail
vast stirrup
#

Itching my head

vast stirrup
spark skiff
#

Why is badunkie a protostar

open musk
#

im going in reverse progress, i already have an astrocam but ill be joining you guys

vast stirrup
#

I too have a 2000D

twin pawn
#

Imagine using a DSLR

#

Lmao, man... The pain...

#

Discord making you wait to speed through all the messages to after clicking on that is the most infuriating thing.

frozen tinsel
#

Id love to know what iso to shoot at for my camera

frozen tinsel
#

Thanks!

primal grail
uncut falcon
#

B

karmic shoal
#

Unmodded dslr with 150/750
1h on Dumbbell nebula

karmic belfry
#

Dayum im trying dumbell tonight

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Canon 450d 114/1000

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💀

uncut falcon
#

good luck

karmic belfry
#

I need it im struggling rn

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Lol

frosty sorrel
#

Gonna image ring tonight

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254/1270

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Canon 1100

lament agate
#

wait people still use dslrs??

#

big oof

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(im sorry i feel you guys, dslrs can be pretty good and are tough to use)

wild jasper
uncut falcon
#

dslr on cdk1000

rare atlas
#

Andromeda Galaxy 1 hour and 30 minutes, untracked
Canon 1300D
Tamron Lens 70-300mm
Shoot at 135 mm f4.5
Shutter 2s, iso 1600
2300+ frames stacked

rare atlas
#

Nahh I gotta upgrade soon

wild jasper
#

youll need to stCK in baches then

rare atlas
#

Yeahh, I guess

#

Lemme try lemme try

rare atlas
#

Hardrive are slow

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I've got 10k images to stack

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You want to stack it for me?

karmic shoal
#

I guarantee my pc has less storage and ram

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And I couldn't even transfer that many even if I wanted 💀

rare atlas
#

Lmfao, my files total like almost 300gigs because of Carina

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Man untracked is pain

karmic shoal
#

Fr

rare atlas
#

eastern and western veil nebula untracked 1 hour

karmic shoal
#

Upgraded from my 114mm spherical to a 6" f/5 parabolic . It's been a little over a month and this is what I've gotten so far :3

rare atlas
#

6 hours eastern and western veil nebula

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I couldn't make the nebula pop out, kinda sad

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Untracked btw

wild jasper
#

tracker wen

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6hrs untracked is mad commitment

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interested in seeing the carina project tho

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👀

rare atlas
rare atlas
wild jasper
#

get

rare atlas
wild jasper
#

your poor shutter...

rare atlas
#

10k images

#

Surprisingly my pc didn't crash when stacking

rare atlas
#

Andromeda galaxy
Untracked
4k images stacked
2 hours and 30 minutes exposure
Tamron lens 70-300mm
135mm lens f4.5
Canon 1300D

median pond
#

4k, insane dedication

thorny birch
#

Self astromodified canon 550d

#

13.5hrs of integration time

wild jasper
#

sir this is #1034767907495874572 not #1337566901496320101

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youre gonna have a field day there

thorny birch
#

Nah I know him so it's fine

wild jasper
#

bro got kicked

thorny birch
#

Lol

#

It was coming

rare atlas
median pond
thorny birch
#

So oxygen

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Probably the cleanest oxygen channel I've gotten in any of my photos

#

Kinda looking a bit magenta ish

thorny birch
#

Duo band vs no filter

digital ginkgo
thorny birch
#

thats some nice colour in the star trails

digital ginkgo
#

i like that too

#

at first it was bad

digital ginkgo
#

but i changed some settings in siril

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and it looks better

thorny birch
#

if its the old one then the new one is a big improvement

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how come the old one has waves going through it

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looks like a moire pattern

digital ginkgo
#

its more green

digital ginkgo
#

i removed the green noise and stretched it a bit

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and added some more saturation

thorny birch
#

yeah really improved the image

digital ginkgo
#

rest of the images was kinda hard to capture

#

with a 1200mm untracked dob

thorny birch
#

for a dob theyre great

digital ginkgo
#

goto for me will be a huge upgrade

thorny birch
#

the orion photo might need a colour calibration

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and a background extraction

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otherwise its ood

thorny birch
digital ginkgo
thorny birch
#

have you seen the skywatcher goto upgrades?

digital ginkgo
#

yeah

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the 10" upgrade kit

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i want to buy it in march

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bc the price will be -20%

thorny birch
#

theres also onstep

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bit more diy but alot cheaper

#

also for the price of the 10" dob you could kinda create a full rig

digital ginkgo
#

what is this

thorny birch
#

like synscan

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its used to turn non goto mounts into goto mounts

digital ginkgo
#

but i need to make rotors myself

thorny birch
#

you just buy motors and connect to the control box

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something like NEMA 17s

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but yeah its more diy

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they have kits as well but idk if those will work with dobs

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if you havent worked with this kind of stuff then the skywatcher is more plug and play

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but onstep will cost probably sub 500$

digital ginkgo
#

idk

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i don t like to do things myself

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bc i am worried i will ruin something

thorny birch
#

heres someone who did it

thorny birch
digital ginkgo
#

but its not harder to control it?

thorny birch
#

no

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supported by all the major softwares

digital ginkgo
#

damn

thorny birch
#

like NINA and asiair

digital ginkgo
#

the photos is nice

digital ginkgo