🔥Hot Takes🔥

[hearty cloud]

The idea that generally speaking new globular clusters potentially cannot form anymore due to the lack of gas available is fascinating as well

What we got is probably what we got as far as we know

[manic elbow]

Exactly

And the fact that many of them at some point were quite possible galaxy cores

They're literally the skeletons of ancient dead galaxies

[fossil barn]

100%

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[subtle drift]

Can confirm

[keen breach]

powerseeker > AVX

[inner aurora]

Bruh your trying to be @fossil barn

[fossil barn]

Ah fame comes with copy cats 💀(joke)

[floral echo]

To be fair it isn’t all that far off 💀

[keen breach]

Teach me your ways

[floral echo]

Just think of something objectively good and helpful, then call it overrated

[manic elbow]

Tbh tracking mounts are overrated. JWST doesn't use a tracking mount so they're bad. All you need is a big dob and if for some reason you just have to have tracking put it on an az gti in az mode bc alt az better. Untracked gang!!1!!!1!!1!111!

[green salmon]

JWST doesn't suffer the symptom of earth rotation, it doesn't need a tracker.

[manic elbow]

Yes but jwst doesn't use eq mount so no one should use an eq mount bc eq mount bad bc I said so

[green salmon]

If NASA had JWST on earth, they would likely use some sort of tracking mount.

[manic elbow]

...This is a joke...

[green salmon]

ah i see, i thought so. Just never know with people nowadays lmao

[manic elbow]

Thats fair

I assumed the !!1!!11!!!1! gave it away but-

[manic elbow]

I was just playing off of this

[keen breach]

Pixinsight, SiriL, and Photoshop are overrated

SiriL has a capital L for a reason

[floral echo]

They really do suck, idk why they get so much hype

[keen breach]

I just realized Kerbal made this forum

[keen breach]

I thought you made it for the longest time

[floral echo]

Nope wasn’t me

[fossil barn]

No wrong

[fossil barn]

First make Lmc think your really dumb

Then post totally accurate takes

[lilac steeple]

Sunrises are underrated

[fossil barn]

Idk wym

Lol

[hearty cloud]

Aw wtf my message

[fossil barn]

idk i still didnt understand it

tbh 😂

[fossil barn]

Center balance > equatorial

[keen breach]

alt az > eq

[manic elbow]

Assuming that's ironic bc that's all this is anymore

Well I'll do an unironic one

Dust and dark nebulae are the best targets by a mile

Also northern and Southern hemispheres are pretty even

Both have orion, north gets cygnus, taurus/perseus/casseopeia, and the far north (ursa major, minor, cepheus)

South has carina, vela, mw core, clouds, and a couple super nice molecular clouds

[misty marsh]

If done right yes. No meridian flip etc. More compact.

More stable if designed right

[fossil barn]

Your learning

😂

[sudden shore]

haha

[lethal vortex]

Newtonians are best on EQ and fracs are best on Alt-Az because of diffraction spikes

[candid river]

mineral moons can look cool but not when they are done like this, this is just too much saturation and sharpening

[lethal vortex]

Looks like its been taken over by some kind of slime mold

[pure spear]

Ofc it’s Andrew mccarthy

He’s like bray falls but worse

[narrow summit]

"worlds clearest picture of the moon"
Sure, and I made the best picture of crab nebula

[candid river]

andrew mccarthy has made good images ngl but: he uses topaz and is got very odd images and i mean very odd but gets heavily praised for it by people who know little to nothing about the images

like this is a good image because he processed it normally and not crazy styled/apod styled

[keen breach]

Mars looks too red/orange

The moon's saturation though? Looks really nice I like it

[inner aurora]

M 16 is ugly (pillars of creation excluded)

[manic elbow]

I think its alright

[manic elbow]

Agree with everything here

Perseus/Taurus is the best region

[inner aurora]

Taurus only got M45 and California

[manic elbow]

You did not just say that...

Its a whole molecular cloud

Tons of barnard objects

Absolutely covered in dust

Bunch of reflections

A number of ha regions

Also hyades

[inner aurora]

That's nice but compared to Virgo Cygnus or the hole milky way core stuff

[manic elbow]

......

A- Virgo is ok but not amazing

B- Perseus/Taurus is comparable to cygnus. I prefer the former

C- MW core is kinda eh imo

Not absolute top teir

[inner aurora]

I live pretty north an have light pollution of Vienna in the south so i don't know all the core stuff

But galaxies are the best Dsos so Virgo is pretty sick

[manic elbow]

Mmmm

Dust is the best dso target

Virgo is cool but only if you sink time in for ifn

Or have a very high fl

[river marten]

nah your wrong there

the omega nebula, eagle nebula, trifid nebula, lagoon nebula all very close to each other

I can't wait for summer, where there are less clouds and I can image the MW core regions

I wonder what nebulas are on the other side of the milky way

[manic elbow]

Its just not my thing tbh

I don't love how incohesive things look

[river marten]

what is your favourite nebula?

[manic elbow]

Ooo hmm...

I mean the perseus molecular cloud lmao

The cloud in cepheus is also MMM

But I haven't had a chance to image it yet

[keen breach]

Astro in the morning > astro in the evening

[fossil barn]

Everything >moon>clouds jdjfhdhdbdbcbcbcjjcfhfj

[keen breach]

this was serious

[keen breach]

redcat > roki

[manic elbow]

That's down to preference tbh

In terms of performance per $ roki is undoubtedly better

Speed and apature as well obviously

But if you need something astro specific, as well as a longer focal length the redcat is definitely the way to go

Also quality control is way better on the redcat

[hearty cloud]

This is the "hot takes" thread sir, not the "rational thinking" thread

[hearty cloud]

Not when the fma135 exists...

[keen breach]

with the roki you're paying for the extra aperture

[hearty cloud]

There's too many caveats with the roki for me to find it viable tbh

If you do daytime photography then yeah sure, but the quality control Russian roulette is ludicrous

I wonder if Caphe really smashed his...

[manic elbow]

Ohh boy

Is the quality control an issue?

Yes, a major one

Is a good roki a better deal then a good redcat?

Yes, absolutely

Big risk big reward

[manic elbow]

Once you try f2 man...

[manic elbow]

Tf

[hearty cloud]

Once you go through three different copies and realize you're just going to have to stop down three stops just to get something decent...

[manic elbow]

I can only speak from my experience

And that is an amazing one imaging at f2

Regardless, both are good lenses and I'd recommend both

[keen breach]

RAW > jpg

Please stop using jpg

[floral echo]

This isn’t a hot take, only beginners shoot in jpg

[misty marsh]

Different lenses for different tasks.

Once you pop that F2 drug there’s no going back. Plus the Roki outresolves the redcat if sampled right.

67mm of aperture

[narrow summit]

I totally agree

[random musk]

in the next 20 years their will be a new type of telescope that will far outpreform all others

[keen breach]

I never said which Redcat

RC71

[hearty cloud]

Mmmm redcat 71

That could replace my reduced z81

[inner aurora]

Something with gravity lenses...

[random musk]

at my university the talk currently is about materials with negitive refractive index's

[sudden shore]

wtf does light just go backwards

does the speed just reverse

[random musk]

curves in the opposite direction that it would normally

we should have some lectures on i this year

[sudden shore]

since n = c/v then the speed of light in that material should be negative

[random musk]

the direction changes

so negitive velocity

[sudden shore]

no how

how

wtf

[random musk]

shits weird i havent looked into it too much

[sudden shore]

V cannot be negative

[random musk]

but i guess its only as a weird as normal refraction?

[random musk]

velocity

directional

its a vector quantity

[sudden shore]

oh shif

hold on

[random musk]

but im not a expert

[sudden shore]

hold the fck up

[random musk]

i think we'll see some crazy developments because of this

[sudden shore]

HOLD ONTO THAT FCKING RESEARCH FOR A COUPLE YEARS

I dont wanna study this dont publish that shi yet

[random musk]

haha well i have to start thinking about what im gona do for my third year project or phd lol

[fallow roost]

Images of telescopes make them look way smaller then they actually are

[green salmon]

yeah that thing looks tiny

[inner aurora]

F if you hear that often....

[random musk]

[keen breach]

Neither iPhone or Android are superior or better than eachother, they are all really close so you should really just get the phone that will work better for you. Do you have a lot of products in Apple's ecosystem? Just get an iPhone, nothing wrong with that

[latent grove]

Best solution is to use both

Apple Ipad and Samsung phone

[green salmon]

I think I only just got the joke lmao

@blissful wing mate, you have no friends

Took me too long to get the joke

[floral echo]

oh yeah its a big boy

[latent grove]

I never expected the ZWO camera to be as large and heavy as a soup can

So very true

[fallow roost]

speaking of bigboys , disproportionately large tripod for the 4se

[floral echo]

Yeah they use the same mount for the entire se series

[obsidian prairie]

I will fight you on this

[fossil barn]

yeah thats what i was thinking red cat is 250 mm vs 135

its been too long since ive posted an amazing take

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[obsidian prairie]

also what targets do you consider the pretties?

[keen breach]

not a hot take

i couldnt believe how big mine was when I saw it

oh yeah and my EQ3 mount

looks tiny in the pics

but in reality its gigantic

[keen breach]

watermelons dont taste good

most of them have no flavor and just taste like crunchy water

some of them have a hint of sweetness but barely

this is a genuine hot take

that i stand by

[fossil barn]

Nah you haven’t gotten a good one then

Those yellow ones are so good and I’ve had really good red ones too

And yes yellow watermelon

[misty marsh]

Yeah watermelon is very good

You have to get a good one though

I’ve had ones that are so sweet they make you sick

[keen breach]

yellow? dont you mean orange

[fossil barn]

No yellow

Straight up

Yellow

[misty marsh]

Yellow skin? Because that means they have been sun bleached. Makes them so good

[keen breach]

hmm

[misty marsh]

I’ve probably eaten about 40 kg of watermelon this summer lol

[misty marsh]

I’ve averaged one every 2 weeks I guess

[fossil barn]

No yellowww

[misty marsh]

Ya

[fossil barn]

It’s reall

[fossil barn]

Mmm

[misty marsh]

Watermelon would be my favourite fruit or close to it

Mango is good

[fossil barn]

Have you had the yellow ones?

[misty marsh]

Must be a location thing because I never seen them

[fossil barn]

They are really good I never been able to find them tho

One time someone brought one to my house that was the last time I seen one

[fossil barn]

They are just a different species

[misty marsh]

Variety

[hearty cloud]

Cantaloupe > watermelon

[misty marsh]

Sir this is #1033998204993282098 not #false opinions

[fossil barn]

Fr

[misty marsh]

But yeah they are good

[fossil barn]

Yeah

[hearty cloud]

I think I prefer the mouth feel. Watermelon is too mealy

[peak drum]

The 4se mount is the only difference, the 5,6,8 se are all same tho

[misty marsh]

12kg of goodness

[misty marsh]

Yeah you haven’t had a good watermelon. Good melons have none of that

[fossil barn]

Yeah it boils down to if you had a good one or not that’s it

[misty marsh]

I get a watermelon every week from the shop on the side of the road. $1 a kilo. The most amazing melons ever

[floral echo]

i could show you better melons but dyno would be pissed

[green salmon]

😳

[fossil barn]

asi120mm mini>asi533mm frfr

@peak drum

[peak drum]

Bruh

Lol

Still confused on how u get nerd lol, ig from ur image

[fossil barn]

yes

[narrow summit]

Totally makes sensd

[inner aurora]

Watermelons > honey lemons > sugar lemons

[random musk]

The Orion nebula is kinda ugly

Not as bad as the flame part of the horse head nebula though

[manic elbow]

Idk...

Sinking time into that region at a dark sky is pretty awesome

Also watermelons mid

[inner aurora]

You think the flame Nebula is ugly? Jo what

[random musk]

Yeah that bit is yucky

[keen breach]

Altinak got reduced to nothing

[manic elbow]

That's not a great image lmao

Flame looks great when it isn't cooked

[fossil barn]

.

[river marten]

How much integration time there?

[random musk]

how should i know?

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-spy-x-family-stare-blink-gif-26180011

[river marten]

fine I'll look up the name in the corner to figure it out

[misty marsh]

Mango lassie is the best drink ever made

[subtle drift]

FACTS

actually

Falooda>

[fossil barn]

nebule is/should be a word

[fallow roost]

Nebuloid

[keen breach]

Nebulae

[sudden shore]

nebulash
(nebulæ)

[manic elbow]

This was a while ago but I just started playing this and

No

Just no

This game is amazing

[inner aurora]

[keen breach]

it is

i love it

[native parrot]

Actually taking the time to learn maneuver nodes and delta v shit is so rewarding at the end

[fossil barn]

No

Nebule is a small nebula

Hehe

[fallow roost]

Nebula : General Nebulae
Nebule : A "dwarf nebula"
Nebuloid : A region of a nebula where active star formation occurs

[fossil barn]

exactly

and nebulae is plural

[peak drum]

Omg ikr, that game has taught me more about science and physics than my whole schooling experience lmao (this is a joke btw don't start saying I'll be dumb because its incorrect or something)

[floral echo]

I mean in terms of orbital dynamics you get a pretty good head start lol

There’s not a lot of people who can tell you how a gravity assist works before college

[pure spear]

Gravity assists are usually more of a master level thing

You won’t really be learning much about them in a bachelors course for AE

Not too sure about astrophysics though

But stuff like gravity assists is more of an aerospace engineering thing

[manic elbow]

With astrophysics I think its less "how can I apply this to things we can build" and more "how does this force work in the first place"

[sick raptor]

Full moons are just as fun to image as any other phase. More terminator craters doesn't equal a better photo, and mare detail can actually look just as nice.

[native parrot]

nah

[fossil barn]

No.

[fallow roost]

Wrong

you're just jealous cuz gibbous moons are the best

[pure spear]

Leave

No moon or bust

[floral echo]

Crescent moons have gotten the most likes on my ig, so statistically they’re best

[green salmon]

Either Waxing and Waning Gibbous are my favorite phases.

[keen breach]

Full moon is ugly

[green salmon]

fr

[floral echo]

Dude every full moon I get someone telling me to go look at it or take a picture

Like bro, 1. I keep track of the phases of the moon, I know it’s a full moon. 2. I literally don’t care

[green salmon]

lmao

[keen breach]

The mun is so boring

When its full

Crescent or half moon you can do HDR

And get good details

The moon actually has character

[pure spear]

No contrast no interest

[fossil barn]

Real

[fossil barn]

Facts

[unborn crown]

Looks like someone vomited on it…

[pure spear]

The solution to a cool mineral moon is to play the system and troll

[green salmon]

I've tried mineral moon with my moon single exposures but it didn't work

but yes

those overdone ones look horrible

[green salmon]

Just lowering the saturation on the yellows makes the bottom one look better.

still got that mineral look, but not the someone vomited all over it look

[pure spear]

Just create your own palette

[candid river]

Very nice

Why is it so sharp

looks so detailed what fl?

[pure spear]

It’s a mosaic

1500mm

[candid river]

It’s amazing detail

[pure spear]

That’s the compressed version too lol

The original is better

[green salmon]

That looks great

[pure spear]

But note the colour palette

It’s def not standard mineral moon

[green salmon]

Yeah i like the colours on that

Not overdone, like a lot of them are

When you open the original, there's just sooo much detail

[sick raptor]

Full moons are better to photograph on the artistic and photographic fronts (as opposed to technical detail), and also make for nice mineral shots. The first point is shared with crescents. While I'd probably say, if you're going for a mosaic or trying to get close up crater detail, half to gibbous is the better phase. I think it just depends on what you're going for

[random musk]

astrophotography is 30% equipment and 70% knowledge

[manic elbow]

Agreed, assuming your equipment is at least somewhat good

Equipment limits you, skill determines where you are within that limit

[hearty cloud]

That's why I don't understand when people will say "start small...lens...dslr...maybe a tracker then work your way up from there"

Bro, if you have the dough for an eq6r or am5 or whatever get it right away man. Get the best equipment right away within your means so you focus more on technique and skill and not fighting your equipment

[manic elbow]

Huh? I mean yes if you have the money ofc but you never know if astro if for you

I mean a good dslr, lens, and tracker is a good setup

[narrow summit]

No...

Of course knowledge is important but once you know the basis and if you're good enough at processing, you're really equipment limited

Unlike a lot of other hobbies you can't do everything with knowledge "only", there's a physical limit

[random musk]

give a really nice setup to a newbie and a ok setup to master and youll likely end up with a nicer image from the more experianced person

[narrow summit]

Of course

Knowledge has its important role

But equipment...

Its a hard question actually, because it depends on what equipement we're talking about

I think this is more reasonable:
Once you have at least: good lens (at least not kit and fast enough), a decent camera and a tracked, then knowledge is equally or a bit more important than equipment

[manic elbow]

That's what I was saying lmao

[floral echo]

right. for example, lmc has kind of advanced beginner gear. but he gets fantastic images because he has a crap ton of skill

[pure spear]

the flaw is that this assumes permanent interest in the hobby

if you're interested for a short while you've just wasted massive amounts of money

[hearty cloud]

This sounds like something someone who's unaware of the second hand astro scene would say tbh

Especially these days

[pure spear]

You will never regain you're money with secondhand

[hearty cloud]

I made profit multiple times last year...

[random musk]

Second hand is still very expensive for most people

Especially if you're just starting out

[hearty cloud]

I made a profit on both my eqm-35 and heq-5 pro for what it's worth

[pure spear]

how

[hearty cloud]

Spicy market

[pure spear]

sounds like luck

[hearty cloud]

Buying pre price hikes didn't hurt

And both times these were prices set by the people putting the wanted ads up

[pure spear]

yeah so this isnt really universal advice

[hearty cloud]

I guess this isn't really universal advice then either eh

[narrow summit]

If you don't have a lot of money you're going to think a lot before spending it in astro so either you know that you easily "get bored" and so don't spend much, either you're the kind of guy that go into something and never stop loving it and you can spend more

So except for someone that don't have a lot of money AND isn't compulsive I don't think thats a problem

And yeah you can resell it for a decent amount of money

[hearty cloud]

Right, my scenario was based on someone with the funds to jump in with both feet. Obviously if you can o ly afford a tracker and have a dslr kicking around that's something completely different

[peak drum]

The most important advice to beginners isn't to get a dslr and lens with a star tracker, it isn't to buy all the best equipment first, it's to make it easy for yourself and get knowledge before you buy anything, and also don't start off with long focal lengths! I had a pretty rough time starting at 1375mm, my 2nd/current scope is 335mm because I now understand the difference. 😅

[fossil barn]

Don’t start off with high focal lengths especially if you want to do planets

[peak drum]

Well I ment DSO, if you want to only do planets then a PHAT dob will be good lol

[hearty cloud]

I say this all the time. Short focal length refractor man. Skip everything else if you want things to be easier at the beginning

[manic elbow]

Agreed, that or a lens

Which is a short fl frac lmao

And yes, know how to use all of the gear you buy before you actually get it

[viral sorrel]

Not sure if this is a hot take but I have talked to more random strangers at night doing astro than at bars.
(it might be because they can't really see my face cuz it's dark)

[inner aurora]

Astro second hand market is amazing. Especially when people sell thing without knowing how much it is worth.
And you can even make a lot do money...

[arctic rose]

Sometimes correct

You also have to know what you are buying and how much it is worth tho

[inner aurora]

Why sometimes?

[hearty cloud]

This guy knows what's up

[inner aurora]

Wait till you hear my opinion about the best type of telescopes...

[manic elbow]

Oh god

What is it?

[manic elbow]

Every second hand market is "sometimes" amazing. There will always be bad apples and scams, etc. Just by nature, second hand will never be perfect

[manic elbow]

Newts?

Def not a bad pick by any means

Ofc they have their advantages and disadvantages, but lots of apature for a low cost

[peak drum]

I think my starlink is blocking Facebook marketplace

[fossil barn]

You got starlink?

[peak drum]

Yep

[fossil barn]

Wow

[peak drum]

We got it ages ago when starlink was just starting up, it's a lot slower now but still really fast

[fervent raven]

"once you pop that F2 drug there's no going back" your stars will be going backwards in the corners

[misty marsh]

Ok

[fervent raven]

Getting lucky on a copy = all copies must be perfect even though they're extremely varied

Logic

if you get a good copy you get to enjoy F2 or F2.8

[misty marsh]

Yup definitely. Risk vs reward

On a smaller sensor camera like the 294 or 533 I guess most copies will be fine though.

[fervent raven]

Those cameras have very small sensors fwiw

533 at least does

[misty marsh]

Which is why you would be safe

[fervent raven]

294 is M4/3?

[misty marsh]

Yah

[fervent raven]

Not completely safe if you get a bad copy but better than at aps-c

A couple stops down and it'd be fine on M4/3 even with a bad copy

Potentially just one stop

[misty marsh]

Also, Amazon (or most reputable stores) should do returns. If you want the lens it’s a good safety net.

[fervent raven]

Caphe has the issue that his parents won't let him return it

Rip

[misty marsh]

Significant skill issue

[fervent raven]

What would be oversampled on a 72mm aperture? @misty marsh

Or rather, at that 135mm FL too

[misty marsh]

More fl. But I think to be correctly sampled with the Roki I would need 0.6um pixels lol

[fervent raven]

Hm

585 + 135mm

[misty marsh]

With the 585 and drizzle I’m at 1.4 ish

[fervent raven]

That's impeccable framing

[misty marsh]

It’s a fun framing yeah. It feels like a different scope

Compare it to full frame lmao

[fervent raven]

Idk if I'd pay so much for the samyang tho

[fervent raven]

It's tiny on FF

[misty marsh]

F/2 is a whole other world. It’s amazing compared to my F6.3 takumar

[fervent raven]

F6.3 is slow as shit lol

[misty marsh]

Ya

[fervent raven]

I'm at F5 with my newt but idc because I've got dark skies

Clear skies tonight too

Few hours on M106

[misty marsh]

Can’t lie tho. Getting subs like this is

[fervent raven]

I feel like the 533 is better suited with the samyang

In terms of framing

Compared to a 585

[misty marsh]

Yah

Better camera

Unless you want details on small stuff

Or bright stuff

[fervent raven]

Yeah pixel size is the only thing bothering me about the 533

It makes perfect sense for longer FLs

But at 135

[green salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-shookt-surprised-amazed-gif-4425303

Single subs?

That's better than my 50 minutes of wide orion data

[pure spear]

Bortle 3 is cheating

[green salmon]

I'm pretty close to that lol

I'm Bortle 4, but in walking distance to a bortle 3 which is outside of my town

[hearty cloud]

I ❤️my 533

[fervent raven]

I just need a DSLR with small pixels

M4/3 is quite ideal

[hearty cloud]

Got a bit of the Leo triplet once orion went behind the trees

That was actually a 120s unguided test to see if the am5 could ha e not being guided

Woops. Didn't realize I was in hot takes

[floral echo]

Hottest take east of the Mississippi

[cedar maple]

m81 & m82 are the hardest galaxies to process

[random musk]

This might just be to hot of a take we might need some moderators in here?

[keen breach]

A moderator for the hot takes forum?

@fossil barn I elect you

you're the moderator

of this forum

[fossil barn]

yay

LOL

[keen breach]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-democracy-i-love-democracy-gif-13935227

[narrow summit]

I think triangulum is the hardest one

[keen breach]

I disagree

[keen breach]

Hmmm it's difficult

It fades into the background

[manic elbow]

Saying any galaxy is the hardest just doesn't make sense

It has to do entirely with the data that you got

Like, at a wide field for example m81 and 81 is way harder than Triangulum assuming you pulled out the ifn

IFN in general just makes everything harder

[keen breach]

It can be sometimes

[manic elbow]

Again, if you got a lot of IFN I'd image its a pain

Planning on hopefully doing that this weekend lmao

[narrow summit]

Honestly when I find the ifn to be not so hard to process

When I processed bat's data I had no trouble while m33 was hard to make right

But you're right there's isn't a hardest galaxy to process, it depends on the processing skills/habits, quality of data, size of the field...

[manic elbow]

Good data is always easier to process

I haven't tried it, but I'm sure the bat data I'd excellent

[hearty cloud]

M33 has been a thorn in my side for a few months now. I'm still not happy with what I got

This is my best so far, but I know I can do better

V5 or something who knows at this point. So I do agree, m33 is a pain in the ass

[subtle drift]

I think your ha addition went a little wrong

[hearty cloud]

YUP

VERSION 6 HERE WE COME

[river marten]

M33 was suprsingly hard in bortle 8. I only got the inner bright arms. none of that glow

[fossil barn]

Lmc not gonna be happy when he wakes up to a bunch of people tagging him

[manic elbow]

I saw that

They deleted the message

What did they say to make people do that?

[fervent raven]

Nope

[misty marsh]

Wot

[fossil barn]

ABSOLUTLY NOTHING AT ALL

[pure spear]

Nah pretty easy

[fossil barn]

dss stacking>pix stacking Ez

[pure spear]

??????????

I could understand if you said Siril > pix

but dss????

you have parasitic worms eating your brain out

[fossil barn]

pix no work i use flats and get white spots instead of fix

[pure spear]

Literal skill issue

You simply do not know how to take flats

[fossil barn]

they were good flats

[pure spear]

If they overcorrect they aren’t…

[fossil barn]

nah my dust just rebellious

[manic elbow]

I'll admit dss is very easy and convenient

But yeah, pix all the way. Just is better all around

[wind rampart]

^^

The way the background bends is gross

[fossil barn]

though if you have pix you can get the GAME script which has a gradient galaxy mask which is perfect

for colors i think it would help

[pure spear]

[river marten]

They are very hard, but THE hardest I would doubt it. Especially considering many other galaxies suffer from the same problem

such as M31 has a super bright core

[keen breach]

m31 is easy

just hdr

infact you might not need to hdr

andromeda looks ugly in hdr to be honest

[river marten]

You don't need to image it in HDR but if you stretch it the core will be bright

so you need to stretch the core and outer arms seperately

[fossil barn]

if you clip your horsehead go back to widefield astro

[peak drum]

@misty marsh forget the roki cult, its all about the mono supperiority cult now 😉

(this is just to annoy watermelonpet)

lol

[fossil barn]

my scope>tak>zenithstar

[peak drum]

you have a $100 amazon scope

[fossil barn]

facts

[peak drum]

🤦‍♂️

[raw vale]

If it wasn't for astro, I might just get 7hrs+ of sleep

[keen breach]

Sleep is overrated

[hearty cloud]

Sleep is the cousin of death

Take that for what you will

[fossil barn]

if you sleep you cant protect yourself from ninjas obviii\

[fossil barn]

😏

[narrow summit]

No, it necessary

ta dum tsss

[fossil barn]

yes thats why i sleep during the day 💀

sometimes

[keen breach]

There is only 1 right answer to this question

People who have 2 cw on their mount

Do you put the bigger one above or below the lighter one (assuming they're different)

[hearty cloud]

You always want as much mass as possible, as close as possible, to the axis of rotation

So larger up top

[keen breach]

[shell hatch]

you don't need $100+ LP filters. only a 20$ catapult will do :)

[floral echo]

He was joking about buying a catapult to launch your rig to lower light pollution

[arctic rose]

I have 3...

And they are all homemade from wood because a single metal one was too heavy

The wooden ones together only weigh about 1/3 of the metal one

[fossil barn]

big on top then little on bottom for precise balance

[floral echo]

ok i dont think this is a hot take

but can people stop imaging orion already? seriously there are other targets

so many other things that are accessible to beginners this time of year

but even advanced people just shoot orion over and over

its not even that cool

and i bet half the people who disagree with me will only have imaged orion in the last month

[hearty cloud]

He says as I currently process my Orion data

[floral echo]

Nah you’ve barely had clear skies, you get a pass

I don’t have a problem with people doing it once or twice, I just don’t get the point of doing it over and over instead of a different target

[shell hatch]

no I thought about using it to decimate the neighbours' lights and the street lights.

like the handheld catapult

[inner aurora]

The flame Nebula is underrated

[green salmon]

So is Running man

but yes, agreed

[manic elbow]

Running man is great

Now I think people should shoot whatever makes them happy lol

Orion is quite an overdone target though, I will agree. That being said after doing a wife field on it myself this season, there is a lot you can do with it

So many framing options, different regions, individual targets, etc

You genuinely could spend an entire season doing nothing but orion and get an amazing variety of images

[fossil barn]

ngc 1999 underrated

[manic elbow]

(The constellation, not m42 in particular)

[fossil barn]

ok well no one even pays attention to ngc 1999

[manic elbow]

Lmao

It's dust. I like dust

[manic elbow]

If you mean m42... I guess I can see that

[fossil barn]

NOT JUST DUST

[manic elbow]

I didn't pay super close attention to that region on my image lmao. It is really neat though

[fossil barn]

i love it

this hole is my fav part

who knows what it looks like thru there

jwst needs to look in there imo

[green salmon]

you want nasa to point jwst to look inside a big black hole?

[fossil barn]

i need to know whats thru the dust

[green salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-tv-show-george-costanza-gif-3474058

until nasa sees this

[fossil barn]

hehe

[keen breach]

no way

a watermelon pet hot take that isnt plain wrong

[fossil barn]

BRO HAVE YOU SEEN IT?

[keen breach]

i was agreeing with you

[fossil barn]

Ohhhh ok good

[fresh fiber]

Detraction spikes are underrated
People don’t like them in images for some reason and try to get rid of them I like them they look cool especially in star clusters and big nebula or just any dso with bright and dim stars in one picture

[inner aurora]

Fact

[arctic rose]

I like them but sometimes they can be excessive

[narrow summit]

As long as they are really thin and they don't hide interesting data, I kinda agree

[vague basin]

Ah yes the typical person who gets 1 roki that’s meant to be completely perfect and complains when coma is larger then 3 pixels ☠️

[fossil barn]

Don’t own a Roki 💀

It a good enough lens

[cedar maple]

did you actually google IQ insults for this ☠️

[misty marsh]

no?

[cedar maple]

💀

[misty marsh]

bros stole my joke

[peak drum]

oooh I have an idea for another low iq joke either: You have the iq of a microwave, or: you have the iq of a half eaten, burnt, slightly mouldy, cold peice of bread

[floral echo]

lucky you, you can count your iq on your fingers

[subtle drift]

Lmfao this is the most toxic website possible

[candid river]

Hand drawn diffraction spikes are just weird and unfitting when obviously looking drawn on

I’ve seen a few and they just look dam cursed

[misty marsh]

Lmao why post this in #1033998204993282098 .

[candid river]

cuz some people think they look good idk

[misty marsh]

literally no one does

except protostars

[candid river]

Haven’t you seen people put them one?

[misty marsh]

yup

[candid river]

they did it for a reason not bc they don’t like it obviously

[fossil barn]

Send ss of them

[shell hatch]

one more: You have an IQ the same as the temperature of an ice cube in celsius

0

[shell hatch]

I dont

[narrow summit]

I use kelvins

[shell hatch]

adjusted.

[inner aurora]

I use Fahrenheit

Btw that's me

[fossil barn]

Niceeee

[peak drum]

That is a large range lmao

[floral echo]

Clowns get paid more than teachers

[subtle drift]

[lethal vortex]

Plus a clothing allowance & free transportation to the workplace - though you have to carpool

[vague basin]

Wtf do ur teachers get paid if a clown makes more then them

[vague basin]

Sheesh aus pays way higher

[subtle drift]

'Merica

[fossil barn]

😒

Heh

[lethal vortex]

🇬🇧

[vague basin]

Primary teacher here gets like 60-100k lmao

[floral echo]

Probably why American education sucks so bad

[subtle drift]

WHAT

[lethal vortex]

My kids are off on Tuesday because teachers are (rightly, IMO) on strike again. Absolute clownshow of a country.

[narrow summit]

Where do you live?

[lethal vortex]

North-East England

[brazen wedge]

Pepsi is coke with a bit of water. I like it

[pure spear]

Bebsi

[manic elbow]

Pepsi=Dr Pepper>Coke

[fossil barn]

these people are major cappppp

none of them taste the same

pepsi>dr pepper> coke

[pure spear]

I like coke

Fight me

[keen breach]

Ok Pepsi and coke taste the same but Dr Pepper is Completely different

[fossil barn]

coke still tastes good but pepsi is better

[native parrot]

Dr Pepper tastes like medicine

[fossil barn]

maybe the cherry kind

[fossil barn]

YOU ARE WRONG

pepsi taste completely different

[keen breach]

Coke and Pepsi are like the skittle flavors

They all taste the same

But

[fossil barn]

no

[keen breach]

The placebo effect makes them seem different

[fossil barn]

i dont like the orange skittles

they literally taste like orange

[fossil barn]

no it doesnt

[keen breach]

All of the skittles taste the same

It's a fact

Close your eyes

Eat a skittle

[fossil barn]

yeah idrk cause i havent had them in a long time cause they suck

but pepsi and coke

easily different

dont try it from a soda fountain try it from a bottle or can

[native parrot]

You trippin

[keen breach]

I'm not

[fossil barn]

fact

[keen breach]

It's the truth

[fossil barn]

your taste buds are broken

[keen breach]

The red skittles are the same as the blue ones and the yellow ones and all the colors of the rainbow

There is no tasting the rainbow

[fossil barn]

if you drink water you are tasting the rainbow

at some point

HEH

[keen breach]

Kekw

[fossil barn]

im gonna ask my friend abt this

wait he sleeping its 4 am hehe

[keen breach]

It was on the news

[fossil barn]

oh?

[keen breach]

I didn't believe it

Until I tested it

There it was

My world broken

Skittles are exactly the same

[fossil barn]

im gonna buy some asap

wait tho

[fossil barn]

do they actually smell different tho?

cause without smell you cant really tast

[keen breach]

They do

It's part of the placebo effect of skittles

[fossil barn]

nonoonoononoonono

[keen breach]

They all have the same flavoring but other senses make you believe they are a flavor they aren't

[fossil barn]

you smell to taste

[keen breach]

No

[fossil barn]

yah

[keen breach]

Smell assists in taste

[fossil barn]

yes

so they do taste duf

thats not the placebo effect

thats just tasting smells

[keen breach]

They actually taste the same

I mean

Try it

[fossil barn]

the favoring same

[manic elbow]

They don't

They taste similar

But not the same

[fossil barn]

but you taste with smell

yk not only with smell

but yk

[keen breach]

Fine

You caught me

But how'd you know?

[fossil barn]

bro

go taste something but dont let air in

you wont taste it

you may feel salt or sweet but it literally wont taste

[keen breach]

No you will

[fossil barn]

no

[keen breach]

True

[fossil barn]

i just tried it

[keen breach]

Although

[fossil barn]

to prove

[keen breach]

Placebo

[fossil barn]

nahhh

[keen breach]

What if I want it to taste like what I'm eating

I don't need smell

[fossil barn]

smell and taste are very related

[keen breach]

I'm not saying they aren't

[fossil barn]

ok but go get a drop of mustard or ketchup eat it but dont open your mouth or smell

literally wont taste anything at alllllllll

until you take in some air

[keen breach]

I want to say this rq when I'm sick I don't lose any taste and I can barely breathe

[fossil barn]

"barely"

[keen breach]

I'm dying bro

[fossil barn]

it doesn't take much

[fossil barn]

?

[keen breach]

When I eat and I'm sick I gotta rush to chew that so I can breathe after

[fossil barn]

yeah

[keen breach]

I'm breathing through my mouth

[fossil barn]

yes

[keen breach]

You cant smell through your mouth, right

[fossil barn]

if you open your nostrils

it doesnt need to go all the way thru

i get what your saying tho

back to pepsi and coke

way different

[fallow roost]

The C14 Edge HD is the worst telescope ever made and is frankly worse then a 127 EQ /j

[manic elbow]

Tf

You're trolling right

[inner aurora]

Bro your trying to be @fossil barn or what

[fossil barn]

Hah no even I know that’s a cap

[inner aurora]

[native parrot]

Every masterpiece has its cheap copy

[fallow roost]

yea

dumb silly opinion

silly adjustment

[hearty cloud]

This is ridiculous. The 6slt is the worst telescope ever made? It's the exact same ota as the 6se and the c6, legendary optical tubes. Same goes for the 5slt/5se/c5. It's all the same telescope.

Surely you're not going to sit here and say the c6 is the worst scope ever made now are you?

[floral echo]

now the mount seems like shit, but there are so many scopes with a bad ota and a bad mount that it cant possibly be the worst

[hearty cloud]

Well thr mount is something else entirely!

He said worst TELESCOPE ever made so I shall go forth assuming he meant telescope

[floral echo]

yeah if he was talking about the telescope exclusively thats just insane

but im assuming someone with that crazy of a take doesnt know the difference between a telescope and a telescope+mount

[shell hatch]

no they all taste the same. same is true with M&M's. companies are just too lazy ig.

[hearty cloud]

What kind of weak ass taste buds do you people have where you think coke and shitsi taste the same

[fossil barn]

Astro> vitamin D

\💀

[lethal vortex]

Vitamin D:

1. Cheap

2. Comes in tablet form

[fossil barn]

Free*

[lethal vortex]

Depends where you live. It’s not possible to get enough without tablets or reinforced foods where I am.

[fossil barn]

What?? You can’t see the sun? (Well ik some places it’s dark for like 6 months at a time)

[floral echo]

Or the sun is just too low in the sky

[lethal vortex]

Short days, clouds and even if you see the Sun in winter it’s too low to actually trigger a useful vit C reaction in your skin. Besides, most of your skin is covered because it’s cold.

[fossil barn]

Ah ok

[peak drum]

So basically during summer on a clear day you should run outside naked screaming "Im getting healthier!"? Lmao

[fossil barn]

totally

[fervent raven]

dr pepper is goated

[keen breach]

It is

It is far beyond coke and Pepsi do not compare them

[manic elbow]

Pepsi is good

Dr pepper is better than coke for sure though

Tbh yeah I'd pick it over Pepsi too

[fossil barn]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

pepsi>pepper>coke

[fossil barn]

\💀 no

[keen breach]

Coke and Pepsi are the same

If there's any difference it's definitely subtle

[fossil barn]

NO ITS NOT

theres literally the biggest difference

[keen breach]

Its not

You're exaggerating

[fossil barn]

im not

i taste no coke in pepsi and i taste no pepsi in coke

the only similarity is the carbonation

[manic elbow]

It's a pretty significant difference

[fossil barn]

real

[hearty cloud]

It really is

[shell hatch]

reading a book is just staring at marked slices of a tree while hallucinating

what if coke and pepsi are secretely the same drink, just rebranded?

with a change in recipe, like a little variation in salt

[fossil barn]

no

dynamic drink

[shell hatch]

ok

[fossil barn]

wahtttttttttttttttttt??/?

waittttttttttttttt

[shell hatch]

realization

[random musk]

vanilla diet coke>drpepper>dietcoke<pepsie<coke

[misty marsh]

Rain water>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[shell hatch]

Clean River water>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[cedar maple]

iced unsweet lemon tea> vanilla diet coke drpepper dietcoke pepsi coke

[fossil barn]

Hose water>all other drinks

[fossil barn]

No river water is clean

Mountain water is so good

[inner aurora]

Austrian Mountain water ....> everything

[fossil barn]

Show mountain

I will tell

[fossil barn]

is that the best u got?

[fossil barn]

mhm more

best one

show

[inner aurora]

Bro i have 16000 images on my phone just Google

[fossil barn]

ur mountains lame

[inner aurora]

Bro i guess you have Netherlands mountains

[inner aurora]

I guess you accidentally googled australia

[shell hatch]

it is

I've tasted

atleast in India. Drank a whole 1L of pure unpolluted bliss

[misty marsh]

mountain river water is good

river that flows through cow paddocks not good

[inner aurora]

Hubble pallet looks only good on a few targets...

[manic elbow]

Agreed

And it only looks good if it is really done right

Most of the time I prefer broadband or even HOO, but when SHO works it hits hard

Hubble sho images tend to look amazing

[unborn crown]

I understand how people can say Orion Neb is ugly, I don't think so but heres my weigh in on this

This is beautiful, the colours pop and it looks natural

This... Doesn't look good to me though

The detail in the clouds are incredible, but it looks unnatural to me, and running man is washed out so badly

both images by trevor jones

[manic elbow]

If done properly, it's beautiful

[manic elbow]

I prefer this honestly

It needs dust imo to really shine

[unborn crown]

That's cool, I just like a more natural looking orion

[manic elbow]

The 2nd one is more natural lmao

Still a bit cooked

[unborn crown]

natural "looking"

[manic elbow]

The other looks like narrowband

[unborn crown]

I like narrowband

Mostly Hydrogen alpha

[manic elbow]

HOO is nice

Sho is cool on some objects

But for 90% of things, rgb or hargb (possibly with some oiii) is just better imo

[unborn crown]

I'll have to try it

[manic elbow]

This was hargb by someone in another server

[unborn crown]

That one looks nicer actually

Not too bright (except the kinda overexposed core(

[manic elbow]

I like it when the core is a little overexposed

Not too much though

[unborn crown]

It’s kinda cool to see those stars clearly in the core imo

Since you’re seeing the stars which are being born

But the exposed core does give it the idea of how active star production is

It kinda goes both ways

[hearty cloud]

I'm so bummed I'm not going to be able to image more of it before it's gone

I had plans like this

But hey, clouds eh. I only got around 4hrs

[inner aurora]

I got 3 hours, but in half sleep i shut down my mac wrong and all data got lost...

[unborn crown]

F

[unborn crown]

Dunno if its just me or summer targets are kinda boring compared to winter

[narrow summit]

Yeah I kinda agree

There's a lot of good ones but winter gems >>>

[unborn crown]

Its a shame cuz I have clouds for the whole week

Haven't really gotten the most out of all those winter targets

Now they'll be gone

[narrow summit]

I had clouds the whole automn/winter

[unborn crown]

RIP

[unborn crown]

Honestly a nightmare

[fervent raven]

You mean a burn?

[subtle drift]

ded channel

[fossil barn]

i could fix that

[narrow kettle]

dither not drizzle

[fossil barn]

2 different porpoises

[misty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dolphin-gif-4492695

[narrow summit]

I agree.

[vague basin]

Good point

[river marten]

Those Mf's also cut out the nearby running man nebula

[fossil barn]

focal length \🤨 not everyone has a high fl low f stop scope thats tracked

and your not revealing much more with a ton of integration once noise is gone then thats it

(galaxys)

[floral echo]

this is you

[unborn crown]

I’ve only begun to capture dsos on march 2nd do I get a pass

I want to get a really good image of orion before I try other targets

Is that fine

[keen breach]

Image whatever you want

[keen breach]

Might be a hot take but theres nothing wrong with orion

No ones complaining about Andromeda getting imaged when its that time of year

Or North America

LMC/SMCC

They're all cool targets. Regardless of how much they get imaged

[fossil barn]

smc is lame

[keen breach]

Take that back now

Or we're gonna have a problem

[fossil barn]

,hold on lemme see if what i said i agree with hold im googling

[keen breach]

images on google really dont show it in its full glory

[fossil barn]

show one that does then

[keen breach]

This is SMC

You cant tell me this is lame

You just cant

[fossil barn]

is that the full size of smc or just one of the nebula thats in it

[keen breach]

That's smc

[fossil barn]

smc is fine then

[keen breach]

That isnt lame at all

That's so cool

Bro honestly I agree

[fossil barn]

LOL

[keen breach]

I mean, its not lame its just not as good as smc

[fossil barn]

Real.

lol

[keen breach]

This was one of the first astro image I saw when i joined this server

It was so cool

Got me hooked

[fossil barn]

im gonna count tarantula seperate from lmc and say lmc is lame

[keen breach]

lmc is nothing without tarantula

[fossil barn]

exactly

its just a bunch of stars

i feel like lmc would kill me for saying that so hopefully he doesnt see

[keen breach]

This here is my favorite image of lmc

There are dustier and more detailed images

But this one

[fossil barn]

ooo yes

[keen breach]

It's the atmosphere

The idea

It has its own beauty

[fossil barn]

i want to see lmc and smc

[keen breach]

Like something you would look up to the sky, and see vividly

On a dark night

This is why i love this image

[fossil barn]

but i wouldnt go to southern hemi just to see it

[keen breach]

That was from 10N i think

[fossil barn]

Real.

[fossil barn]

fromwaht?

ohhh

yeah

[keen breach]

10 degrees north of the equator

[fossil barn]

😮

i will make an excuse to image some mostly southern hemi stuff

cause

oh

nvm

wow i thought Hawaii was lower

well thats 400 i dont wanna spend anyways

[keen breach]

A trip to Hawaii is a lot more than 400

[fossil barn]

well flights are abt 500$ thats waht i was talking about

from my part of the us🦅

[keen breach]

Well you need a flight to return home so add another $500

Uhh

The topic is astronomy not hawaii

[candid river]

Why ?

lmc is a very nice galaxy in my opinion

Has a lot more to it then just tarantula

[fossil barn]

no thats 500 round trip

[fossil barn]

no without tarantula its just a big fat star cluster

[fossil barn]

go to hawaii to see souther objects of astronomy

[candid river]

that's what a elliptical galaxy is

cant you see it has more then just stars?

does andromeda look like a star cluster?

[fossil barn]

No it has dust rings

[candid river]

literally lmc has that

[fossil barn]

“Without tarantula”

[candid river]

lmc has dust rings

[fossil barn]

Mhm sure

[candid river]

it does

[candid river]

how does it look like a star cluster

[fossil barn]

It has stars and it’s clustered up hmmm

[candid river]

just like what every galaxy has

[fossil barn]

But they have dust and arms and rings of dust

[candid river]

this looks like a star cluster right?

[fossil barn]

It is

[candid river]

Yes I know it is

Is omega centauri

this looks like a star cluster still?

id say smc looks more like a star cluster then lmc tbh

They both don’t but if I were to compare both smc would look like one more likely