Phone Astrophotography

[lean magnet]

Alright thanks

[iron bear]

https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/1005006338731937.html

A friend bought it for his Exos 2

[lean magnet]

Oh I thought you meant it was assembled with the mount already 😭

[iron bear]

No
You install it on the Exos that comes without motorization. Some people buy it to replace the original motorization as well, since it's somewhat poor compared to the OnStep.

[lean magnet]

What's the difference between it and the normal onstep kit

[coral cedar]

Oppo reno 3

[lean magnet]

how heavy is your ota?

i have a 150mm newt but it's very light

[iron bear]

Between the one in the link I sent and the regular OnStep? Well, it just comes fully configured with the pulleys, belts, and motor mounts correctly set up for the EXOS2. That way, you just install it in your mount

[iron bear]

arround 3.5kg. But it has 900mm FL

[lean magnet]

oh dang

mines 3.6kg

[iron bear]

Because it is a long OTA, it resists the wind quite a bit but suffers more torsions on the EQ3.

[lean magnet]

tho i have less fl

[iron bear]

The problem lies in the focal length and the length of the OTA. The weight itself is manageable for the EQ3.

[lean magnet]

why does length of ota matter?

[iron bear]

A longer OTA exerts more twisting force on the mount's structure. It resists the winds passing over it more during capture. If the mount doesn't have enough structural integrity, it gives a little, causing instability in the guiding.

[lean magnet]

Oh I read that wrong

Mb

[spring viper]

Same, but for eq3

[lean magnet]

what

Quattro on a eq3??

[iron bear]

150p...

[lean magnet]

still

it's a decent amount heavier than my scope

[lean magnet]

does it work well with the Quattro?

[spice gale]

does it have a mode to shoot raw or you used an app

[coral cedar]

Deepsky camee

Camera

Can shoot raw

[spice gale]

oh ok

i hate that app

and then where did you stack?

[coral cedar]

Siril.tho

[spice gale]

ok

nice image

[coral cedar]

Thank youu

[grizzled lance]

I didn't know a lot of people had eq3 but mines like this

Little dusty

[coral cedar]

Ive tried eagle image stacker and its... kinda worse

Only.max at 100

Meanwhile me have 1600 images

[spring viper]

130pds

[spring viper]

I've had clouds for 2 months now, so my telescope is also covered in dust.

My setup is enough for now. I would like to buy a good Dobsonian next year. During our last joint observations we looked at Jupiter in SW 200p, hurricanes in the planet's atmosphere were visible, very detailed and beautiful, I need more aperture.

130pds and eq3 will be a setup for astrophotography

[grizzled lance]

Literally same for me 😭

[prime adder]

Andromeda Galaxy in this Photo

Iphone 14 with max thingy stable

Andromeda Is in the circle

[spice gale]

what bortle?

@prime adder

[prime adder]

7 or 6

[spice gale]

whaaat and you shot the andromeda

[terse smelt]

yeah its pretty easy

my phone easily gets it

[spice gale]

howw

[terse smelt]

good phone I guess

(samsung s21fe)

(that is mega cropped)

[spice gale]

my a52 can only to 10s max and 3200 iso

[prime adder]

yuuup

even my friend was shocked

moon

[floral token]

Andromeda galaxy is easy for phone

You can do that easily 🫡

[spice gale]

idk if i can with my phone unledd im in b3

[terse smelt]

have you tried?

[spice gale]

idek

maybe tried and failed and forgot

[dusk crow]

Andromeda in b9 IPhone 12 Pro Max

[lean magnet]

🌈

[ivory thunder]

my a71 can do that just fine tho

[spice gale]

wow you got so little noise

my pics are noisy asf

[ivory thunder]

what bortle r u

[floral token]

Bortle scale >>>> phone

And little bit of experience too

[spice gale]

7

[spice gale]

i mean ive been photographing the sky with the phone for almost 2 years

[ivory thunder]

same

[spice gale]

wow you got so little noise for b7

[coral cedar]

milky way reprocess

oppo reno 3 untracked 19s x 400 images

total of 126,67 minutes

using graxpert, siril, and photoshop

[spice gale]

[opaque tundra]

interesting

[robust fog]

Why lol

[robust fog]

For real?

I've dumped houndreds

What device you on

[spice gale]

so hard to use

[robust fog]

Could be ram limitations

[robust fog]

Try MotionCam

[spice gale]

lemme search it

[robust fog]

It's expensive but it's ungodly OP

https://youtu.be/097-IMFys1o?si=ALdNrCsBib1vwvhf

This is my video submission to them

[coral cedar]

Tried on my samsung a53

[robust fog]

OnePlus 8 Pro and Pixel 8 Pro

[robust fog]

That's why

[spice gale]

ill install the demo app

[robust fog]

Too weak

Unfortunately

[coral cedar]

Ram limitaion?

[spice gale]

oh ok

[coral cedar]

Ohh

[spice gale]

then ill wait till i get yhe 15 pro

[coral cedar]

What devicè u on?

Dumped how much?

[robust fog]

These

[coral cedar]

Mine only stack at 100 lmao

[robust fog]

300+ 🙂

[coral cedar]

💀💀

Great tho

[robust fog]

I was talking about Rudolf 's device being too weak for eagle image stacker 😁

MotionCam should run

15 Pro apple? Android sensors are better 😃

[floral token]

Its great

some tips: lower the exposure and take more shots :))

[robust fog]

This

18-22s shutter speed is a safe bet

[floral token]

If it's default zoom
10-20 seconds are ones I go for
For me ( I just do 10 seconds)

[robust fog]

Depends on device

[floral token]

true

[robust fog]

Try using npf rule

[floral token]

doesnt need for phone

[floral token]

trial and error is best and easy for phone

[robust fog]

Photopills is my cheat sheet

Never let me down

[floral token]

nice

[robust fog]

My attempts are limited so I plan everything ahead to crisp perfection to max my acquisition time

Photopills and planit pro are like having the infinity stones

[floral token]

its good to plan ahead

[spice gale]

ik that, but i am not getting it only for astro

[spice gale]

oh mb

[worldly needle]

hello fellow phone user

[coral cedar]

Sup

[worldly needle]

hi

xiaomi 11t

15sec 42 frame

I forgot the iso...

my friend edited it for me

[spice gale]

not bad

[floral token]

its great sunfa

[floral token]

there are some weird artifacts but yeah with time you will have great shots

[worldly needle]

yeah lol

thank you

I also put some of my touch

[floral token]

yep give some idea of you settings

[worldly needle]

final result

[floral token]

nice, default 1x zoom right

[worldly needle]

yeah

[floral token]

whats the bortle scale

[worldly needle]

1

[floral token]

damn

[worldly needle]

yes

only 15 minute

[floral token]

there shouldnt have noise and weird artifacts then

[worldly needle]

camera issue lol

[floral token]

its good for milky way

[worldly needle]

untracked too

[floral token]

tripod?

[floral token]

duh

🤣

[worldly needle]

oh fu

I forgot that some of motorcycle pass by lol

[floral token]

tripod

[worldly needle]

[floral token]

you should not add those frames

[worldly needle]

fr

but it's kinda minimum effect

wait let me find the file first

[floral token]

even 5 min will have some good data in bortle 1

[worldly needle]

its raw so

jpeg ver

ohh nicee

really nice

I also took andromeda a few month ago

yup I know I make it so dark on purpose

because untracked and the walking noise is

you don't want to see it

it's so bad

xiaomi 11 t

I don't have any telephoto lens

lil

lol

oh my goodness

30x is digital crop

same like 24 100x

walking noise

ikr

it's so bad

it's pretty nice

at least you got telephoto lens

not like mine

dude

I use 5000 iso 15 shutter speed

it's still pretty dark

for orion

edited one

only 1 frame

bortle 1 is too op

hmm interesting

here another orion

I don't have a telescope LOL

man I wish I have telescope

[floral token]

let me show my orion try

i just bought bino

[vague shard]

Is anyone going to try geminid meteor shower ? What's the procedure for that? And do I need a tracker for that?

[timid wedge]

its worth it, i got an INCREDIBLE pic of orion with my phone and simple 6" dobsonian

[lean magnet]

get the heritage 150p

[worldly needle]

good for you lmao

[worldly needle]

the only telescope brand that available in my country is celestron and svbony

[lean magnet]

dang

you're kinda cooked then

since celestron doesn't make good mounts and svbony doesn't even have tracked mounts for aale

[dusky crane]

15 min phone

Form a while ago

[timid wedge]

re processed my b2 mw data

[lean magnet]

progress on the phone star tracker: got 6 motors but i probably will only use 3, i have a bunch of flashlights i can harvest the aaa battery holder things from

with 3 aaa batteries it seems to run 1 motor fine

[patent zodiac]

Try using a car battery with a dc-dc step up or step down converter (depends on how much voltage and amperage the motors need) instead of triple a batteries

[lean magnet]

i dont have a extra car battery lying around bro

and im not using anything to control the voltage

im just soldering wires to contacts lol

[wild flame]

I mean the power line is RIGHT THERE

free electricity

[patent zodiac]

You can find a dc-dc step down or step up on ebay or aliexpress for less than 2 dollars, also i know car batteries are expensive af and i got 3 car batteries barely working

[lean magnet]

i wanna do it for free tho

[patent zodiac]

I mean you can try

[old nimbus]

all taken on an s24u

[spice gale]

no way you got andromeda in such details

30 sec exp?

[old nimbus]

that one was the like 12 minute astrophoto mode

the other 2 were 30 sec

also thats the only one i processed lol

[lean magnet]

if it doesn't work im just gonna do untracked since im already planning on buying a proper widefield setup in spring

[grizzled lance]

Andromeda 😍😍😍😍😍

[robust fog]

She's got more to give too

I got this on dinky 50mm sensor of my old Xperia Pro-I

[floral token]

Any settings tips for deep sky camera as I can't trust it

[coral cedar]

Focus sets to 0.66, or 660-670 around there
ISO depends
My shutter was 19s

[floral token]

Thanks
It's bino ap so it will change but other than that there's no need to worry right?

[robust fog]

No

[robust fog]

Wdym?

Focus ranges vary between devices

[floral token]

Nothing I did

[robust fog]

All specific and reason they can vary is calibration

Two same devices may have different infinity values

Be careful

[floral token]

I was not asking camera settings
I was asking if I need to do anything in deep sky camera

[floral token]

True

[robust fog]

Oh

[floral token]

I do experiment

[robust fog]

Let it rip that's all 😄

[floral token]

Anyway thanks for the tips

[lean magnet]

did someone get cleanbanned

[potent gorge]

huh

[terse smelt]

incomprehensible, have a jupiter

[iron bear]

Enemy of the ir-uv cut

It turned out the same as when I tried capturing Jupiter without the filter in my sv905

[iron bear]

Wait, did you do it with the phone? It was supposed to block the IR-UV

[bronze jackal]

I might be upgrading to s24 ultra from s22 ultra but I don't wanna get rid of the 10x lens

[terse smelt]

why?

(upgrade phone)

[robust fog]

Unless you got tracker, its useless

For astro

x5 is much bigger sensor

More effective resolution

[bronze jackal]

I have been quite enjoying the challenge of getting photos with it without a tracker, but yeah they're not the best

[spice gale]

well now its too late to buy phone🥲

they get very expensive before christmas but youll see in january they gonna get cheaper

[atomic rampart]

Why do your stars look like the less than sign <

[wild flame]

In theory, yes
But the 10x on the older phone benefits from much sharper images at the same zoom level since you can't really trade glass for pixels so it doesn't really translate to a real life comparison

That being said, the 5x will still do well if you plan on getting the S24 Ultra anyways

[robust fog]

Not entirely

It's like an APS-C

They achieve zoom on a lower equivalent with crop

S24U was quadbayer tele

Admittedly it doesn't expose it to third pay apps but

It can turn to 50mp mode

Crop center 12mp area

Voila, additional x2 zoom

222mm lens at about 1/5.04" at f3.4

Sensor size may seem terrible vs s23u that uses 10mp with 230mm at 1/3.52", but it also goes to f4.9

So balances out

[iron bear]

It’s been months since the sky cleared at night. Tonight it opened up a bit, so I’ll do some widefield shots, even with the moon

I'll try to make a hyperlapse

[iron bear]

@robust fog with motioncam

Discord compression destroyed the quality

Discord mobile sucks

[robust fog]

Tell me about it

[floral token]

Can we make this for Geminid shower

And will it be at good quality or should I just take 10 second exposures

[robust fog]

Why not?

That would be even better

[floral token]

Yes but want to ask

[robust fog]

He used MotionCam which makes it foolproof but if you want to do the work manually, even stock will do

[floral token]

And the moon will create so many problems

[floral token]

Literally didn't know any of this

Let me download the apps

[lean magnet]

i thought someone got cleanbanned again

bc i didn't read the names and same pfp

😭

[lean magnet]

Wtf bro

Why is discord sending notifications for reactions now

I got a notification for that skull reaction

Discord trying not to make a bad update for one week (Impossible)

😭

[iron bear]

Let's spam

[lean magnet]

wait does it do smth different for a super reaction

[iron bear]

It is still not notifying here

[lean magnet]

prob only went out to some

[zealous edge]

I'm getting it too now lmao

[zealous edge]

just a quick ten second exposure before I go to sleep, crisp winter night skies.

idk how the moon got diffraction spikes considering this was only taken with my phone and therefore has no 2ndary mirror spider to create diffraction

[vague shard]

Anyone tried geminid meteor shower?

[proper totem]

what phone

[floral token]

Nothing phone 1

[zealous edge]

I was outside earlier and by extreme chance, happened to glance to my right for a moment, just as a super bright geminid shot across the sky at absurdly high speed, so that was pretty neat I think

[grizzled lance]

I have clouds 24/7

[vague shard]

I was trying to capture, just as I setup everything , I saw one and then wasn't able to capture any further

[compact citrus]

I got Jupiters moons from an s23 ultra

At opposition

[iron bear]

This video I sent above, I made with 2-second exposures. But my cell phone is very sensitive at night. Maybe 10s would be ideal.

[floral token]

I got to see 3 meteor but couldn't capture

[iron bear]

Try using a high ISO. Long exposure times with low ISO won't capture objects that appear in short times

[iron bear]

I do it like this. It's very easy

[floral token]

Well the problem was it was not in the area I saw them 🤣💀

But thank you for letting me know about this

What's that purple colour?

[iron bear]

Motioncam has a focus, noise and "blown out" region detector. It is to help you set the exposure time, focus and ISO.

[floral token]

Niceee

Thanks Lucas for the tutorial 🥹

[north spade]

First time capturing the Beehive

I got a decent halo

[iron bear]

Without compression

@robust fog Zoom in. Basically no noise

[robust fog]

Damn

Never thought I'd see such a glorious share with great quality on discord

Hope you got more!! 😄

[iron bear]

I got banned for 5 minutes for accidentally writing like spam

[iron bear]

It's raining today. Maybe we'll catch lightning tonight. I'll see if I can make more videos like this

[floral token]

Lucas any suggestions for budget star tracker
(Under 250 dollar)

[iron bear]

For less than $250, I would make one. Around here, you can buy an EQ2 or EQ3 and motorize it with OnStep. To use with a phone only, I think you can build a tracker for less than $100

I'm building an OnStep. I should spend around $100, but it's to motorize my Exos 2

I bought some parts on Aliexpress. The rest I’ll buy here in Brazil, as it’s cheaper.

[ivory thunder]

yum

[zealous edge]

crunchy

[lean magnet]

off topic but if you do know, is the eqm35 better than the exos2 onstep?

(In ease of use and reliability)

[iron bear]

Difficult. The Exos 2 is more "robust", and the OnStep allows for 400-step motors and very precise drivers. I think it's hard for both the EQ5 Pro and the EQM-35 to perform better than an Exos2/Stock eq5 with a well-tuned OnStep along with good motors.

[lean magnet]

id probably be terrible at tuning it and getting it to perform better than what skywatcher makes tho

I've never done it before

I can get a eqm35 pro for 100 dollars more than a onstepped exos2

[iron bear]

It's not that difficult. Usually, the native systems of Sky-Watcher's "budget" mounts use very basic motors and often have gears to transfer the motor's movement to the worm gear instead of pulleys. Some friends have built systems similar to what I'm assembling on the Exos 2, and they are sometimes achieving guiding errors as low as 0.40.

[lean magnet]

that's another thing, i probably won't have any guiding for a few months

my mount will be blind

I'll watch a video on how it's installed

[lean magnet]

https://youtu.be/pAh4Ko4IHV8?si=K5ZQqXX6d2F9BQHh I watched this, idk why but I thought it'd be complicated

I'll probably buy the onstep link you sent me before

[lean magnet]

Where did you buy your exos2?

I can't find it anywhere except astroshop.eu

[iron bear]

A Chinese friend sells at the store he set up here in Brazil
He basically imports from China and resells here.
I was going to buy from Astroshop since I travel to Portugal almost every year to visit relatives, but the box is too big. It's unfeasible to bring it in plane

Almost the size of my entire setup

[lean magnet]

I literally cannot find it anywhere other than astroshop.eu

Is 500 usd a good price for it? That's how much they sell it for

[iron bear]

Size of it next to eq3

[lean magnet]

😼

also that eq3 looks very good

[iron bear]

I think you can find it cheaper there. I paid around $600 for it, but here, almost everything related to the hobby is double the price. I've seen the exos for less than 400 dollars in astroshop

[lean magnet]

rn it's 500

so should i wait to buy it?

they could've increased the price for holidays

im not in a hurry to buy it tho, i can wait for january

[iron bear]

The price must have gone up. There's this one that's okay, but I don't know this store

[lean magnet]

400 usd right

when was it 400 usd?

if it wasn't that long ago prob holiday price increase

[iron bear]

I think it was the EQ5 I had seen. But the price has already gone up.
I just checked on Astroshop, and it's $500.

[lean magnet]

Eq5 is even more

Do you remember what month it was at 400?

[lean magnet]

Same price

[iron bear]

The specific month, no. But I was researching at the beginning of the year.
Since it appeared in the local store, I stopped checking prices outside Brazil.

[lean magnet]

their shipping is more than i thought it'd be

since it's going to another continent

it ends up costing more than the eqm35 pro

is it worth 100$ more?

[iron bear]

No. Especially if you're not going to use a large telescope with a longer focal lenght

If it were cheaper, it might even be worth it

[lean magnet]

I'm at 750mm

[lean magnet]

No I meant the exos is 100$ more when you include the onstep kit and shipping

well not 100, but almost 100

I'm looking at https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1317049372457828442 for the eqm35

Ik the exos2 has 3kg more capacity and has the other stuff that's better but is that worth 100$ extra?

[iron bear]

Both payload numbers are likely a bit inflated. The EQM-35 seems closer to an EQ3-2 (which has a 5kg payload) than to an EQ5 with its 10kg payload. And the EXOS2, in practice, also doesn't carry 13kg for astrophotography — it's only about 9kg

[lean magnet]

isnt it use 40% of the listed capacity for ap

or do u mean the eqm35s capacity should be 5kg and then you take 40% of that

[iron bear]

No... It’s just unlikely to actually be 10kg. The EQ5 seems much larger than it, and the EQ5 does indeed have around a 10kg payload. It’s very unlikely for a smaller mount to have the same payload capacity as a larger one (except for harmonic mounts). Stability generally depends on the size of the mount and its structure

[lean magnet]

so then what should i get?

Looks like the eq5 has the same issue of the exos2

of being like nowhere except astroshop.eu

so ig eqm35 is the only choice?

[iron bear]

See if anyone else uses the EQM-35 with a telescope similar to yours...
Personally, I would go for the EXOS, but if it costs more (including the OnStep, shipping, and taxes), the difference in stability might not be worth it. Depending on the price, it might already start approaching the cost of the HEQ5

[lean magnet]

I've seen some people on this server use the eqm35 with scopes that are definitely heavier than mine

Idk who

[lean magnet]

nah it'll still be a good amount lower than the heq5

My scope is lighter than a carbonstar 150, tho it is f/5 instead of f/4

[clear hawk]

Anybody shooting on a Google Pixel 8 Pro?

I tried it out for the first time recently and there was a horrible red lens flare (I assume from a laser focuser) I taped over everything but the elected camera and it was still partially showing. Any ideas?

This is before and after covering it, the first image obviously with much higher exposure. My goal is to eventually stack images so I would like to eliminate the flare completely :)

[robust fog]

I do

[robust fog]

You taped the wrong spot

I explained it here
https://www.reddit.com/r/videography/s/3gh3TlTEc3

Tape the beech

Here

If you turn on camera and point it at mirror you'll see it right away on viewfinder

I use electric tape myself

[clear hawk]

thank you so much! I must've just covered the edge of it :)

[robust fog]

Yep!

Happened to me too so I know it all too well lol

[clear hawk]

do you have any tips for any of its settings? I learnt the annoying way to turn off the auto camera switch. Also what's your preferred camera to go through a telescope lense?

I'm very new to using the google pixel and I was very overwhelmed by all of its settings 😭

[robust fog]

I dont use stock to begin with

Bakes the raw

[robust fog]

Otherwise though, never go above ISO 667 when shooting raw

If you use telescope too, use only main as it's biggest sensor of course

[clear hawk]

So when you select which lense I assume the main will just be the wide ?

also what do you mean by stock?

[robust fog]

Yes, wide (24mm)

[robust fog]

I don't use the built in camera app

I use MotionCam

[clear hawk]

Thank you so much :) I was using deep sky stacker on my old phone but I'll check out motion cam 😁

[robust fog]

DSC is also great

If you only use main lens it's a simple cheaper option as it's free in demo

MotionCam is... Expensive

Does more than astro tho

https://youtu.be/kxJpOqSfXp4?si=6EhUn_xLaVB2A5eI

To give you idea

[clear hawk]

I hadn't used DSC for over a year and they had a big update and now I have no idea how to use it lol

ty!

[robust fog]

Pro version just came out

So they definitely revamped it

I liked older UI better but hey, it's still the same at the core

[clear hawk]

wow motion cam is like unlocking the HD version of your camera

weird that stock isn't already like that when it's clearly capable

[robust fog]

Yes, bypasses the ISP that's why

It's capable but reviewers get thirsty for over sharpened and overly saturated stuff

Notice how older devices sometimes just seemed to produce nicer results

OEMs are just obliging

Consumer demands and they deliver

People can't stand noise/grain, they need to look like porcelain dolls these days 😁

[clear hawk]

we live in a society

[iron bear]

I stay 6 days in the countryside, the sky: 🌩️🌩️🌩️
Then, the day I decide to return home, the sky: 🟦🟦🟦🟦
The only option will be doing astrophotography from the city again. I’ve only taken photos in March this year

[iron bear]

100% IR laser reflection. Cover with some tape

[robust fog]

Kukulkan is an unfair beech

My ancestors didn't rip people's hearts out for in his name for this sh*t 🤬

[somber lantern]

What

[worldly needle]

fr

[lean magnet]

i mean there is diy

[worldly needle]

hm

idk tho

[lean magnet]

im doing diy for my phone star tracker

i wouldn't try it for something as heavy as a scope tho

others have

[vapid rock]

Guys, what is the max. zoom in which the orion nebula will be completely in view,?

[zealous edge]

maybe something like 30x magnification?

[proper totem]

does anyone here use an iphone 16 pro/pro max

im getting one for personal use but i also wanna see how it does

with astro

ik iphones arent the best

[lean magnet]

i have the same question for s23 and above users

specifically with the telephoto lenses

[robust fog]

External or internal??

[lean magnet]

internal

no other optics

[robust fog]

They do fine

[robust fog]

Ask away

You guys don't know me but trust me I know my stuff... 😁

[lean magnet]

how much detail can they get?

if you have an image that would help

[robust fog]

Dng or just a sample?

[lean magnet]

sample

and how much dimmer are their views than with the normal wide angle?

[zealous edge]

nice little Orion shot

[fading bobcat]

Ty

[zealous edge]

expose it for longer and you could get the running-man nebula in there too, especially with that wide FOV

[fading bobcat]

Would've have more data, but windbmessed it up a good bit

[fading bobcat]

Only was able to max out at 2s shots. If I'm lucky next time I can get 4-8

[zealous edge]

Ah ok

[robust fog]

Here

[fading bobcat]

Ideally, I'd get an actual tracking mount, but budget is fun

[proper totem]

Pretty good nebulositu actually

[robust fog]

And here

Both tracked tho

[lean magnet]

oh dang

[proper totem]

how long integration

[lean magnet]

was this the 240mm?

[zealous edge]

square diffraction spikes?

[robust fog]

Yep

[zealous edge]

what even happened

[robust fog]

Periscope

[zealous edge]

Ah, that's so odd

I've never seen that happen before

[lean magnet]

not if u look at the shape of it

hold on

[zealous edge]

aight

[lean magnet]

it's the bottom one

[zealous edge]

ohhh ok

[robust fog]

Yes

[robust fog]

Don't have that data unfortunately

It's not my shot

[zealous edge]

that definitely explains the shape of the diffraction spikes, I've never seen that pattern before

[robust fog]

Credit to gxi

[lean magnet]

do you have some with the 70mm normal telephoto?

[robust fog]

No

It's poo poo tho

Don't use that one for astro

[lean magnet]

really?

[robust fog]

Way too small sensor

Horrible aperture too

[lean magnet]

wait you have s23 ultra right

[robust fog]

Nope

Like I said, I know stuff 😁

[lean magnet]

oh

i was gonna ask if the difference between it and the s22 ultra is worth

[robust fog]

Well

What are you looking for

[lean magnet]

mostly camera quality

but speed and battery important too

that's pretty much it, my s20+ display is good enough so whatever the s22 or s23 ultra has will be enough

and i do like having telephoto so it's pretty much just either s22 ultra or s23 ultra

[robust fog]

S23 then

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is miles better than 8g1

8g1 is a space heater

A poor iteration from the prior heater masquerading as an SoC, the Sd888

If you dont mind that then S22 is fine

Practically same sensors

[lean magnet]

is it worth the extra like 200 dollars?

[robust fog]

You can make the fire practically identical video and photos with Gcam and MotionCam

[lean magnet]

cause like 700 is a lot for a phone

[robust fog]

What region are you in, and is that significant to you?

[lean magnet]

my current was like 300

[robust fog]

New phones are expensive tho

It's normal

[lean magnet]

i mean i can get it if it's worth it

but like

[robust fog]

Keeping it long term tho?

[lean magnet]

i just bought a eqm35 pro

not trying to spend a bunch more right after

[lean magnet]

it's 2 years old tho

[lean magnet]

prob

[robust fog]

Is it used, is what you should be asking

That's the key part

[lean magnet]

im buying new

[robust fog]

Then that's normal then 😊

Used is where you'll see savings

Compare it against a new s24u

See the difference is not that much vs s23u new

[lean magnet]

i don't want a s24u

i prefer s23

even if it was only like 50$ more I'd sti get s23

[robust fog]

I know that

But like I said, see price

It's to be expected

When you buy new, there's a premium

[lean magnet]

Btw do u think its best to wait for the s25 release?

[robust fog]

Not unlike cars

Personally, I would

I'm waiting for Xiaomi 15U and Vivo X200 Ultra to release

Will then pick either one of those or 14 Ultra

[lean magnet]

not to buy it, but incase s23u price drops when it relesses

[robust fog]

Exactly

[lean magnet]

I might be able to find a s23u for 609

600

but that's pushing it

when i bought a s22u for cheap it was a fake

i sent it back

[robust fog]

Yes

Btw

One more

MotionCam shot

So it's pure

IMO he didn't stretch it all the way

She's got more to give 😊

[lean magnet]

yeah def

i overstretched my 15m orion

s20+ main wide angle lens

[lean magnet]

Do you know what tracker?

I am making a diy tracker for phone but it prob will not be very good

[robust fog]

MSM nomad 😃

Straight up bare bones set-up

[lean magnet]

Oh nice

Wait does the nomad use a stepper motor

[robust fog]

All it is 🙂

[lean magnet]

Yeah ik but what kind of motor?

[robust fog]

Just need whichever polar calibration tool of your choice

[lean magnet]

Like dc or stepper

[robust fog]

Unsure tbh

https://www.moveshootmove.com/products/nomad-star-tracker-for-novice-and-experienced-astrophotographers

Maybe you can find it here

[lean magnet]

It doesn't say

[robust fog]

Surprisingly I can't find the answer 😁

[lean magnet]

prob stepper

im using an extremely geared down dc motor

[proper totem]

i would get an android since its better for astro and its got good features but then i cant ft my gf lol

literally the only reason i stay with iphone

[lean magnet]

another classic case of apple refusing to make their stuff work with Android

[proper totem]

actually it shows read receipts now i believe

with samsung and apple

[compact citrus]

Yeah do that

U have to wait like 2 or 1 month

[compact citrus]

You have an s23 ultra right

[somber lantern]

Veenus

[robust fog]

No

Pixel 8 Pro and OnePlus 8 Pro

[compact citrus]

What tripod do u use with the star tracker

I mostly do phone astrophotography right?

[robust fog]

I do untracked

I'd love the MSM nomad

But I'm going to buy a new device soon

Will consume all my budget

[compact citrus]

The pictures u sent were shot from the pixel right

[robust fog]

No

S22U and 23U

Want pixel ones?

I did some

[compact citrus]

U got more s23 ones

[robust fog]

#1020657687291252797 message

From my pixel

[robust fog]

Not that grade of good, no

[compact citrus]

This is stacked or expert raw

[robust fog]

Stacked MotionCam outputs

[compact citrus]

Yeah

Expert raw makes Ur images weird

[robust fog]

It's fake raw

Compressed to a Crisp here but these were the original sequence that created that shot

Yes, that's a cute little heated winter coat for my phone

It was -20C

[compact citrus]

This is what I got from expert raw

Bortle 3 sky

[robust fog]

Too many stars

Surface of floor shows it shrted itself with hot pixels

[compact citrus]

Yea

I sharpened the image tho

This is the raw

Btw are there any other objects like galaxies and stuff in this image other than Andromeda

I think I can kinda see the triangulum galaxy

[compact citrus]

Show me some

[compact citrus]

This is atlas this week?

Fire shot tho

[inland hinge]

No

Like a few months ago

[compact citrus]

Jupiters moons rn

[grizzled lance]

Yo

I'm gonna take pics in the holiday with s23u and I'll send you results

[spice gale]

does anyone here have an iphone 15 pro?

i want some opinions on it as a general phone and also on its astrophotography capabilities

[versed jetty]

yoooo

[indigo abyss]

That’s actually not that far tho

Nearest for me is like 9 hrs

[spice gale]

gosh where do you live

[indigo abyss]

The US

Eastern US

[spice gale]

oh makes sense now

unlucky

[robust fog]

I shared the link there

Press this

#1020657687291252797 message

[somber lantern]

The reprocess of the reprocess

[zealous edge]

here's a recent reprocess of my Flame & Horsehead data, taken with an iPhone 12 and a 56mm hunting monocular. Not a good image by any accounts, but I'd say this process is better than the last one by a longshot

I do want to try beating this with my newer setup

[compact citrus]

Check out this channel

He used the 15

It performed pretty well

[spice gale]

oh ik this guy, love him

cant belive i didnt think about hum

[spice gale]

thanks

[atomic rampart]

This is a single exposure

Also here is an image of m51 also with my phone and this also a single exposure

[terse smelt]

suprised your phone got it lol

[lean magnet]

single exposure and i can very faintly see barnards loop???

what kind of bortle -35 are you in

[dense gorge]

Oh my image xD

More is here 😉 https://github.com/SoongVilda/Astrophotography

[ivory thunder]

dude you got the flame nebula too

[atomic rampart]

And slight horse head

[ivory thunder]

oh yeah I see it

[compact citrus]

What bortle

[atomic rampart]

4

[compact citrus]

Srsly?

[atomic rampart]

Like high 4

[compact citrus]

Damn

Tyty

[compact citrus]

What device

[atomic rampart]

S23 ultra 3x telephoto

[compact citrus]

This is a 6s shot yeah

[spice gale]

that is insane

you got all of that in a 6s simgle exposure image

[atomic rampart]

Yeah

[spice gale]

good job

beautiful

[ivory thunder]

idk

[atomic rampart]

Thanks

[grizzled lance]

Damn I'm proud for you

[ivory thunder]

orion time

to get this I had to use a piece of paper to "shade" my phone from a nearby lamppost

wait I have a bit of coal car cluster

and some off center perseus

idk which way is hwee

[lean magnet]

whar

[lean magnet]

put a blanket on the lamppost

[ivory thunder]

idk which direction is the one I was trying to point my phone

[old nimbus]

basic galaxy s9, 6 photos stacked

[robust fog]

Aye

Fellow MotionCam brother

[dense gorge]

Yeah

[compact citrus]

I got the flame nebula too today

But 1x

And it's super low on the horizon

🤕

[floral token]

Don't go if it's low
Try other DSO like plieades untill the Orion is high on horizon

[compact citrus]

I did

But thank u

I was going back home and I saw Orion so I shot like 2 3 exposures

[floral token]

Yep thanks great
🫡
Make sure of focus

[old nimbus]

thanks @bitter fox for stacking

[potent gorge]

Jupiter

[noble karma]

Samsung Galaxy S22+, Edited in Lightroom, Bortle 4, Moonlight

[grizzled lance]

Orion nebula

15 sec exposure 1600 iso

B5

Honor 90 and skywatcher 150/750

Defo not best tracking

[coral cedar]

15 sec maybe not the best option

[atomic rampart]

Try 4s or less

[vapid rock]

Wow

[spice gale]

yeay try bigger iso and lower exposure time

[grizzled lance]

I'll try tonight

For now I was just checking if the tracking works but I haven't fully precisely set it up

[wild flame]

1/4 sec worked well for me

barely got any trailing at all

[old nimbus]

decent detail from ~2 minutes integration

full image

[floral token]

It's definitely great if that is a light dome 🫡

[somber lantern]

Never again

At least until I get tracking or a lower bortle

[old nimbus]

calibration frames could help

if ur phone lets u save photos as raw then u can take calibration frames https://www.galactic-hunter.com/post/calibration-frames

[modest falcon]

You need to dither

[balmy ravine]

11.2 minutes of orion last night

samsung s23 ultra

from bortle 9

[fleet bramble]

what lens?

[somber lantern]

Perchance

[compact citrus]

10x

[balmy ravine]

No lens, 10x telephoto camera

[robust fog]

Beautiful

[proper totem]

Anyone have iphone 16 pro photos?

i’m getting one tmr

[dusky crane]

Yesterday

[wind spoke]

what bortle u in boi

[grizzled lance]

Has anyone captured mw in bortle 5-6

[prisma raft]

yes

bortle 5

very faint

but ive got some details of the core

[balmy ravine]

fixed white balance in siril using photometric colour calibration

[grizzled lance]

This was during summer

[grizzled lance]

The arch looks good

[vague shard]

Yes

[coral cedar]

got this jupiter from phone and telescope

im really happy bout it, you can see the great red spot

[grizzled lance]

Damnnnn

What scope and phone

[coral cedar]

samsung a53 5g and celestron 80eq

900mm lens and 80mm aperture

[grizzled lance]

Stacked?

[coral cedar]

yes

stacked

[grizzled lance]

Its clean

[coral cedar]

thank you sir

[grizzled lance]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[coral cedar]

i use pipp, auto stakkert and registax

if anyone wondering

[grizzled lance]

Very clean image man

[coral cedar]

thank you, the key is consistency quality of the image tho haha

when you record make sure dont press too hard, so we can avoid stuttering/shake effect

[grizzled lance]

Ohh I thought you had to take many pictures and then stack it

[coral cedar]

you can, but i found it way harder than record it, so i use record method, to make it easier

[coral cedar]

this is my mars

still suck, i need more integration time

[somber lantern]

I'm already doing that

But I need a 12v 5a thingy to power it and also need the gears and the other thingy to put it on the mount

Hopefully gonna get them for christmas

[spice gale]

WOWWWW

[somber lantern]

They be consuming

[balmy ravine]

Wait using a motor works?

I've literally said the so many times people just say you need to spend more than £100

[somber lantern]

Not really I spent $50 so far

They're nema 17

But I'm using an esp32 and a cnc shield v3

I plan on adding a third motor eventually for autofocus, but I'll focus on getting tracking first lol

I'll get a thingy 3d printed to mount it onto the mount

[sterile parrot]

Uranus btw

Looks abt right according to stelarrium

[proper totem]

just got the iphone 16

pro

so much better than my normal 13

[compact citrus]

Congrats

[somber lantern]

Well as of right now I don't think I can afford a second nema 17 to make it go-to so I'll just point it manually and then turn it on

I will be putting this onto an eq2 since it's all I got for the moment

But eventually I'll get something like an eq5

[grizzled lance]

You can see the poles and tiny surface detail

I'm very impressed

Keep it up

[somber lantern]

That's how all mounts work so

[dusky crane]

Any good mobile astrophotography apps for Android

That can take a lot of photo without touching

[lean magnet]

deepskycamera

you have to stack and process on pc tho

[dusky crane]

It's not available for my phone

[dusky crane]

.

[lean magnet]

then ig just put an autoclicker on your normal camera apps pro mode idk

[proper totem]

quick 30s exposure with the iphone 16 pro

bortle 5

this phone is great

anyone have app recommendations

it seems like i can’t get 48mp using night mode

[lean magnet]

astro shader

[proper totem]

where do i go to turn on the 48mp

in the astroshader app

[spice gale]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1047623389898088579 you could ask here

@proper totem

[proper totem]

okay thanks

[vague shard]

Are you planning on making a barn door type or eq mount type tracker ?

I've made barn door type and it was pretty accurate with those cheapass stepper motors , but I somehow lost the heat sink and my driver malfunctioned,so the project is at halt now

And wouldn't nema 17 be overkill for a phone tracker ? Or are you planning to mount a telescope on it ?

[robust fog]

What device

If Deep Sky Camera is not available it's not generally a good sign

You can try MotionCam but you need a device capable of both capturing raw images and long exposure

[dusky crane]

OnePlus Nord 3

[dusky crane]

@robust fog

[formal notch]

u could try openlivestacker

pretty good

[dusky crane]

Thx

Gotta test it out

Yesterday i downloaded deepskystaker apk

[formal notch]

okie

[formal notch]

did it work?

[dusky crane]

Ant took 2 hours worth of orion it was in focus for like some sample shots

After that everything went out of focus

I didn't have a tripod

So kept it flat on a plate

2 hours wasted

[balmy ravine]

Jupiter at few days ago

[coral cedar]

Thank yoh sirr

You*

[spice gale]

what setup?

[formal notch]

[dusky crane]

+and hour on orion

[balmy ravine]

Celestron powerseeker 60az, Samsung galaxy s23 ultra 10x telephoto camera

[spice gale]

wow really nice image for the setup

[somber lantern]

No

Just motorizing mine

[zealous edge]

Wow you can see detail in the Orion Nebula with just an unaided phone pic, that's insane

[ivory thunder]

extremely old pic of winter triangle (April 2024)

[robust fog]

It should work without issues

[vague shard]

Oh okay, how much was your non- motorized mount ?

[somber lantern]

Came with the scope

It's bad, though

Eq2

Not sure if it can be bought new

It's pretty cheap

And bad

[zealous scaffold]

its been a good run but ive joined the dark side 🫡

[robust fog]

https://youtu.be/G5jAW37Pq1k?si=dbEbIxBD-yn7dI5C

[zealous scaffold]

ill probably still try at some phone ap, esp for widefield, just not as often with DSO and Planetary

[timid wedge]

do a llot of 1 second ones and stack them

sharpest orion i got yet

[spice gale]

beautifully done nick

[timid wedge]

thx man

[trim notch]

Tried taking a few quick photos with 15PM 10s exposure, one captured andromeda (I think), images are edited and the location was not ideal due to light pollution

[spice gale]

they are nice yk

[grizzled lance]

🤯

[dusk crow]

iPhone 13 5x180s

[lean magnet]

i will copy paste the thing i sent in widefield milkyway pics
im not even sure if this is better than my last orion but i processed horribly since i am eepy, doesnt help that starnet completely messed up too
same as always, phone, bortle 7, untracked (this time with a broken tripod leg so it just collapses! 🥳 )
136x15s (34mins)

[echo sage]

Some of my best work on my iPhone 15 Pro

[spice gale]

what telescope you got?

[echo sage]

10” 1200mm newt

[echo sage]

An the Orion and moon was shot with a 25mm eye peace and the Jupiter was with a 9mm

[echo shell]

From AstroShader in bortle 5

[echo sage]

It’s always the pleiades

[echo shell]

Lol

[trim notch]

Bortle 4, shot with iPhone 15PM, the lighter one is shot using native app with 30s exposure and the darker one is shot using AstroShader app and stacked 10 images each with 5s exposure. Images are compressed due to discord size requirement

my location is classified as bortle 4 on apps but I don't really agree with it, it would probably be much better if I went away from street lights🤔

[zealous scaffold]

data on light pollution map is from 2015 so i normally take the bortle it gives then estimate that its gone up a bortle

[grizzled lance]

Looks very similar to the pic i took in b5-6

Nah maybe b4-5

[trim notch]

thx for the info, probably will buy a telescope for visual soon and try to take a few photos using one of those phone mounts, but I will have to make some reasearch about that idea

[timid wedge]

did you dither? btw great pic man

[lean magnet]

no😼

[timid wedge]

how? i dont see any walking noise

[lean magnet]

i was already annoyed by just fixing the rotation of the camera, no way i would sit out there with the phone and dither

especially since if i stay outside with it i get frostbite fast

i just used link to windows to watch the imaging inside

and go out every 30 images to reposition

[timid wedge]

then how no walking noise?

[lean magnet]

idk

my phone just politely said no to the walking noise

instead of walking noise i got a mangled pleiades from starnet completely messing up

i might not use starnet when i reprocess bc it actually ate a lot of dust and messed up so much

[dusk crow]

Yo guys you will not believe me got a image with my 40mm eyepiece I manage to focus and I capture Orion Nebula and flame nebula I will show the pic tomorrow

[dusk crow]

Yes

The raw image

[lean magnet]

why is it actually decent tho 😭

send that to #1087219932900638720

[lean magnet]

You have flame nebula and the red glow of the horsehead reigon

[dusk crow]

Yes that also surprises me

Is a very low light collector

[lean magnet]

wait it's on the back of a astromaster

😭

[dusk crow]

Yes the Astromaster 114

🥲

Got this in with the telescope. 5min total exposure

[bronze jackal]

bro that's brilliant

[terse smelt]

oh cool I did that one time, didnt think of the use for phone astro

just did visual with it

[lean magnet]

printing the gears rn

im only gonna end up using one motor since i looked into them and theyre a lot stronger than the other ones ihad

and i will use 4 batteries

[simple crow]

@atomic rampart

[lean magnet]

They mesh very well and feel strong😼😼😼😼

[balmy ravine]

Single image out of 14 mins total i took yesterday, will stack in a few days

[atomic rampart]

Whats the question

Its possible especially if you have a tracker

But i wouldn't recommend anything higher than 60mm with out a tracker

For example here is some examples i took with my phone and a tripod dont mind the light dome

Single sub untracked

I mean all of them are untracked