Phone Astrophotography

[potent gorge]

its something you need to do in your processing

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat how many seconds sub is that? I assume Andromeda?

[fading bobcat]

Yes it was about 100 shots at 2 seconds.

I'm gonna try to get a tracker working tonight, so I might post more later

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat ok sick. 100 is a good number. my mount isnt stable enough for the longer shots. Next opportunity I plan to so 3 sec shots

[fickle mulch]

Andrômeda Galaxy and Triangulum Galaxy

Unfortunately my smartphone was not able to capture enough light

Triangulum Galaxy is almost impossible to detect

Xiaomi note 8 2021 using a Gcam

I had this sick gcam but i uninstall, now I'm using a generic one and can't remember de old one.

[opaque tundra]

Nice what bortle is this

[fickle mulch]

3~4, it's a transition area

[fading bobcat]

I'm not sure what I'll be able to get if I get the tracker going, but I'm hoping ~10 seconds

[fickle mulch]

Does DSS run on Linux endless os? It's my work PC

Or some other stacker

[coral cedar]

2 shots, 1 over exposure and 1 ordinary one

[fickle mulch]

Maybe it's better to lower the ISO

Give it a try

There is a lot of noise and, maybe, lowering the ISO can do the work

Especially if the sky is polluted by light

[wind spoke]

better

[zealous edge]

I proudly (not really lol) present my first image of Jupiter taken using my Starblast dob, all I did was hold my phone to the eyepiece and take a single crummy image. Would've brought out my phone-eyepiece adaptor, but it is almost 6:00 AM and I there are better nights to be doing this sort of thing.

I definitely want to get some nice stacks of this in AstroShader eventually. Also as I was looking around I happened to notice that the Orion Constellation was fully above the horizon, so of course I had to look at the Orion Nebula too. Was very cool to see, and now I'm even more excited to photograph it properly, considering how much I could already see with just my eye.

[fickle mulch]

Nice!

[gusty zodiac]

have you tried the other planets yet?

Literally every planet other than Mercury is readily available for observation rn

[tough nest]

Venus...

[gusty zodiac]

?

[tough nest]

Ohhh youre india

For almost all of America it is not easily visible

[fickle mulch]

Neptune and Uranus? Kkk

[gusty zodiac]

wat

[gusty zodiac]

ok yea I checked from Washington DC it is lower in the horizon, but still I think its is visible, considering how bright Venus is

[tough nest]

When it actually gets dark outside it's like 2 degrees above the horizon

[tough nest]

Uhhh ya

[fickle mulch]

you can't see Neptune and Uranus with a telescope

[fickle mulch]

Really?

[gusty zodiac]

wdym you can

[tough nest]

Insanely dark skies and we'll adapted eyes you can see Uranus naked eye (maybe)

[tough nest]

Look in solar system pics

One of the top ones is Uranus

[fickle mulch]

I was being dumb, sorry. I remember know about Uranus discovery. But, naked eye? I don't think so

[tough nest]

Maybe

[gusty zodiac]

idk much about planetary so maybe I'm missing smth, but I don't think how bright the sky is rly matters when doing planetary, hell there's even people doing it in straight up daytime

[fickle mulch]

I will research this

[tough nest]

For most

For Uranus it's basically a star

Uranus is possible naked eye in dark skies

[gusty zodiac]

Uranus has a magnitude of ~5.6, meaning it is possible to see it with perfect eyes and very dark skies though it will be quite dim (the Naked eye limit is 6 iirc)

[tough nest]

That's what I wanted to say!

I was literally in the middle of typing that lol

[gusty zodiac]

Neptune on the other hand has a magnitude of ~7.8, definitely beyond naked eye vision, but can be easily seen through a telescope

[tough nest]

😦

[fickle mulch]

I did a little research and ok, I learned something new hahaha

Thanks

[tough nest]

First time for everything

[gusty zodiac]

np

[zealous edge]

I have looked at Saturn through this scope prior, even with the rings so edge on it looks incredible

I also visited mars this morning at 5:00 AM, before I moved on to Jupiter. Mars is underwhelming, but that was to be expected. My 4.5" dob just doesn't have the magnification to see mars clearly, I could certainly see clearly how red it is, though.

[gusty zodiac]

yeah, the rest are also all like that, but its still rly cool you can see them in real time irl, like you're actually looking at the real thing

[zealous edge]

Oh yeah for sure, and I'm sure that with a larger focal length scope, you can watch mars in real time with relatively high clarity

My dob has a focal ratio of like, I think 5

So definitely not enough for mars to look interesting

[gusty zodiac]

you can also (although faintly) see Titan when looking at Saturn (mag ~8.4 or 5), the first time I used averted vision to see it, it gave me the same exact 'jolt' of excitedness as when I first saw saturn 😅

I only thought the 4 galilean moons of Jupiter could be easily seen visually (at least through my 80mm scope)

[zealous edge]

that's pretty awesome, might have to try that next time I look at Saturn

[gusty zodiac]

btw on an another note, did you see any other DSO's or just M42?

this may be controversial, but imho star clusters (both globular and open) are the best DSOs for visual (there are a few good nebulae and galaxies, but you don't rly see much other than a grey haze)

[tough nest]

Great hot take

[tough nest]

What f/ do you need?

[zealous edge]

Not this morning specifically, but I have viewed the Dumbbell Nebula M27, and the Ring Nebula M57 through my StarBlast prior.

M27 is interesting, you can see the differences in color in the nebula; it appears grey overall, but the difference in color is revealed as some areas of the grey are darker and lighter.

M57 is just kinda cool, you can clearly see the ring shape of the nebula, and you can sort of tell that it's blue; not a super vibrant blue, but a very greyish slate blue. It's hard to make out additional detail in the nebula other than its roughly circular shape, though.

[gusty zodiac]

I have viewed M57 before, sadly due to my more light-polluted area though I could only see a gray circle (though I will say it was pretty clear), haven't done M27 yet :/

[zealous edge]

Ok so, it really just depends on how much you're willing to sacrifice visual quality for magnification. With smaller scopes such as mine, you can't really bump up the magnification with Barlow lenses without a significant reduction in visual quality, the maximum useful magnification is far less than the magnification needed to see clear details in mars. For instance, the Celestron C8 Cassegrain has a maximum useful magnification of about 300x optical power, and a focal length of roughly 1500mm, which is good enough to see some nice detail in mars. Of course not Hubble quality (or AstroTom quality) but it's better than most other scopes of similar size.

[zealous edge]

What bortle do you live in?

I live in a bortle 7.5 ~ 8

[gusty zodiac]

interesting

[zealous edge]

Oh?

[gusty zodiac]

It greatly varies for me

[zealous edge]

Ah

[gusty zodiac]

lowest is prob like a 5-6 at zenith just before dawn. Highest is 8-9 due to a lightdome to my east

but now that I think about it, its prob my scope I can't see much

80mm aperture isn't even 4" ☠️

[zealous edge]

Yeah where I live it usually doesn't get better than a bortle 7, with its worst being bortle 8.5, however there was that one inexplicable night where the conditions were reminiscent of a Bortle 5... still don't know how that happened at all.

[gusty zodiac]

ok yea I just checked its 3.2"

its 100% that

[gusty zodiac]

sucks

oh well, I'm now gonna look for Venus

[zealous edge]

Yeah well, city light dome will do that

[gusty zodiac]

so uh yea gtg

[zealous edge]

I definitely wanna look at Venus eventually, it's almost always in a waxing/waning phase which must be really cool to see through a scope

[gusty zodiac]

ok nvm, turns out my mom sometime moved my bag of telescope accessories (like my eyepieces etc) WITHOUT telling me, and now she forgot where they went ☠️

[zealous edge]

Damn

[gusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-crush-crusher-skull-halloween-gif-26163235

me rn

[stable sundial]

this is all just a phase lol

[zealous edge]

what is?

[stable sundial]

phone astro

[wild flame]

Eh, I wouldn't say that

It has it's place just like every other form of AP

[lean magnet]

unless you're doing widefield phone ap is def something to move out of

so frustrating in my experience, though that's also because my mount sucks

with widefield tho you can just point to sky and imahe

[wild flame]

fair, it's relatively stress-free for me since I just so happened to have one of the best phones for AP

[zealous scaffold]

Widefield is easy and super rewarding, love doing it

[wild flame]

heck, i'm planning on doing deep sky during the winter with only my phone

[zealous scaffold]

What phone do u have

[lean magnet]

Yea that's why a lot of lights I don't even take the scope out because I don't feel like dealing with my shitty mounts issues I just do phone widefield

[zealous scaffold]

A pixel?

[wild flame]

Galaxy S22 Ultra

[zealous scaffold]

Ah

Pixels are really good for ap

[lean magnet]

I have a s20, could be better but I'm happy with the results it gives

[wild flame]

their cameras are pretty good, but I enjoy the 10x telephoto and native camera apps that come with it

[lean magnet]

especially since i don't have access to a low bortle sky

[zealous scaffold]

Minus the annoying LDAF built into the camera that can't be turned off so you have to tape over it with electrical tape

[wild flame]

astrophoto mode is SUPER useful since you can use it with any of it's cameras

plus they updated it a bit and it's livestacking is so much better now

[zealous scaffold]

Pixels ap mode is great for figuring out how well tracking is working on your scope

[fickle mulch]

It's very important for citizen

[zealous scaffold]

Since it records a 1s vid of the 4 min stack it does, you can see how much the object sways from the center

[wild flame]

I gotta drive over 150 miles just to get out my city's light dome

[lean magnet]

I am stuck in bortle 7

[zealous scaffold]

I'm in the biggest city in my state and to get to a bottle 3 it's only a 30 min drive

[lean magnet]

Lucky

[zealous scaffold]

Downside is living in Kansas but y'know I guess it has its pros when it comes to ap

[wild flame]

I wanna head to nebraska over the winter so bad

chicago is one of the worst cities for astronomy

[gusty zodiac]

For me wherever there's no light pollution its way too hot

[wild flame]

I wanna aim for 10 hours of M31 with my 10x telephoto so I can get some good detail in a low bortle sky

[wild flame]

real

[gusty zodiac]

nearest place that fills both requirements is about an 11-12hr drive away ☠️

[zealous scaffold]

Kansas is a very warm state during the summer and very cold during winter, our weather here is never talked about but we always get up in the 100s and down in the negatives

Also a state where you get to gamble on whether or not you'll get snow or not this year

[fickle mulch]

Phone astrophotography It enables the democratization of access to science for the population. Programs such as Globe at night, Night Sky Light Pollution and Satellite Streak Watcher use data that can be obtained through PA

[gusty zodiac]

just checked and the avg nightime temperature for Kansas seems to be around 20-16°C right now

[zealous scaffold]

During winter it gets cold

[wild flame]

truly a midwest experience

[zealous scaffold]

Our weather is extremely weird so it's rarely ever the same but in recent years we've gotten in -10 during winter

[wild flame]

hottest of hot and coldest of cold

43 seasons and 12 pump fakes

[gusty zodiac]

meanwhile lowest it gets here rn is 25C tf is this bs

[zealous scaffold]

Doing AP in negative temps and in negative wind chills at the same time is a struggle

[fickle mulch]

In fact, when it comes to just research metadata, any simple PA can be used in Astrometry.net... just like Hogg & Lang's 2010 research

[zealous scaffold]

I've had times where I was shooting Andromeda where I couldn't feel or move my hands because of the temps outside, and that's with only being out there for 10 mins

[gusty zodiac]

true, ig I do have better weather for astro during winters

[wild flame]

then again, the colder the better technically

[gusty zodiac]

it only gets down to like 2-3C here

[wild flame]

(pray for my batteries)

I mean it gets down to about -18C here so doing winter AP truly takes willpower

its a gamble on what'll die first, my camera's battery or the tips of my fingers

[gusty zodiac]

yeah I have the opposite problem, the heat makes it basically impossible to do ap in summers

literally hell noise

[wild flame]

Right now seems to be a sweet spot but we're getting crazy wind for some reason

Like 20mph

[gusty zodiac]

it was 37C when I took this (in a B4 area too btw)

[wild flame]

Yea summer is nearly impossible to do any sort of AP with 32°C and inner city bortle 9

It's just a Grey/orange slurry unless I get like 20 hours

[zealous scaffold]

That's like normal average wind in Kansas terms lol

[wild flame]

Ughhh what I'd give to live there

[zealous scaffold]

Wind is only 9 mph rn which 10 is about our normal winf

[wild flame]

In the city it's around that cuz of the lake but the skyline and land does a good job of breaking it up

But we don't get nearly as many storms as yall do :/

[grave ether]

Was an absolute shit night for me but was able to take my best picture of milky way till now. My telescope wasnt working with me.

[brisk glen]

iPhone 16 pro bortle 2/3 30 second exposure

[fickle mulch]

That's some solid result!

[fickle mulch]

I tried the same target but it was nothing like this

[fickle mulch]

You almost can't see Andromeda and the Pinwheel Galaxy

[brisk glen]

Nice! I’m gonna wait a few minutes for Orion Nebula to go over the trees to see if I’m able to capture it, I’ll also try the whirlpool!

[fickle mulch]

Good luck!
I believe you will succeed, based on your previous astrophotography.

[fickle mulch]

Whirlpool? Are you not talking about pinwheel (triangulum Galaxy)?

[brisk glen]

Your right 😩

[fickle mulch]

Ohhhhh Whirlpool is a target that demands a lot of ambition hahaha

With a phone

[brisk glen]

Yea, I meant the Triangulum Galaxy 😅, hopefully I will end with some kind of result tonight, I’ll also go for the Orion which hopefully gives me the expected result

[fickle mulch]

You can see pinwheel galaxy right there, so, I think you gonna get a good result

[stable sundial]

thats not the pinwheel galaxy

[fickle mulch]

I'm quite sure that's M33

Maybe I'm saying the wrong name. But, I'm quite sure that's Triangulum Galaxy/Triangulum Pinwheel/Messier 33

[brisk glen]

Triangulum most likely??

[fickle mulch]

Err I think kkkkk sorry, maybe I'm causing a confusion.

Yeah, let's agreed with triangulum

[brisk glen]

Hmm I did a analyze on it and it’s over the Triangulum formation

[fickle mulch]

I see now

So that's the origin of the name kkkkkkk

[smoky scaffold]

@fickle mulch you’re not wrong, M33 also goes by the pinwheel galaxy

it’s just that M101 is more commonly known as the pinwheel galaxy so it can get confusing

[fickle mulch]

Thanks

[brisk glen]

Pretty sure this is M33 Triangulum Galax, thank you for even pointing it out for me in the first place!

[fading bobcat]

Solomark 130mm newtonian
Exos nano eq3 with a motor on the RA
4s exposures (about 15 minutes worth)
1600iso
Processed in Dss, Siril then PS and retouched in lightroom
Samsung note 20

I'd love to either get a properly working mount or a better OTA, but one thin at a time.

[tough nest]

What bortle?

[fickle mulch]

Amazing

[fading bobcat]

I wanna say 5 or 6. Small town but their street lights go wild.

[tough nest]

Interesting

[fading bobcat]

@brisk glen Graxpet?

[smoky scaffold]

look up graxpert

[brisk glen]

Thank you!

[brisk glen]

I will thank you

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat dude, thats awesome

[fading bobcat]

Ty

[fickle mulch]

This piece of the Milky Way isn't very useful for phone astrophotography

If you are looking to photograph large structures

[lean magnet]

wdym?

[fickle mulch]

You can't get much light from that part of the Galaxy

English is not my native language, sometimes I end up expressing myself in a confusing way.

[lean magnet]

You can tho

All parts of the milky way are very easy phone targets below bortle 8

[fickle mulch]

Yeah, But it's nothing like the center.

[lean magnet]

Not really

Still very bright

The core is a lot brighter yes

But the rest is still very bright and easy to shoot

[iron bear]

[lean magnet]

two spikes

how

[shy snow]

probably badly cleaned lense

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New form of astrophotography invented.
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[shy snow]

idk why i typed this out

[pallid sparrow]

Milly Way and Andromeda, took this with my Google Pixel 7 Pro and only edited it a bit with Google Photos

[indigo shell]

HOW DO I CONVERT TIFF FILES INTO PNG!!??

[shy snow]

you can use gimp or literally any processing application

[indigo shell]

Siril works?

[shy snow]

yeah 98% sure

[indigo shell]

[indigo shell]

This is my first ever processed astro photograph. 😊 30 stacked images of 2 second exposure, ISO 600.

The astronomical object 7 sister is in the bottom right corner.

[fickle mulch]

Did you find the process difficult?

I want to learn

[indigo shell]

No it's easy with deep sky stacker software to stack images because Siril software is a bit complex for beginners but post processing is a bit easy with Siril software

[fickle mulch]

I'm learning Graxpert at the moment

Its a simple one, just to solve light pollution problems.

I'm gonna install Siril and give it a try

[potent gorge]

hows it complex?

[quaint night]

Can any one explain these

[gusty zodiac]

lots of headwind

the bird can't go ahead bacause of incoming wind pushing it back, but it can still fly since there is still airflow in the wings (due to said incoming wind)

[quaint night]

thought so but have to confirm its not glitch in matrix

[indigo shell]

Because I am dumb-ass

[iron bear]

Foggy lens

[stable sundial]

do the pics just stack np with the trees in it?

[iron bear]

Sequator aligns... But I prefer to stack the sky and the foreground in PixInsight and then manually merge them.

[smoky scaffold]

government drone

I knew it all along

[vapid kestrel]

Redmi 13 pro plus or samsung a55?

redmi 13 cost a bit than a55

[indigo shell]

.

[smoky scaffold]

first of all don’t use dss, use siril

its really not as hard as it looks to use

using scripts you can literally stack with 1 click of the mouse

[patent zodiac]

Dss is more for begginers than siril, i tried using siril but that calibration is hard especially stacking

[ivory thunder]

other reason: the trees were shaken vigorously

[ivory thunder]

ive seen this before
even seen a bird go backwards

[iron bear]

The Large Magellanic Cloud view from my backyard in Brazil!

Data from 31/03/2021 The lens was foggy and had a bit of dew. This caused a reflection on the star.
📋Exif:
📷 Xiaomi Mi9T (imx 586), 24mm F1.7
⚙ 60x30s ISO 3200
📌 Contryside of São Paulo, Brazil. Bortle 3

[fickle mulch]

Nuuuuu tá de sacanagem kkkkkkkkkkk

What a picture

Amazing

I will definitely try this configuration

[sour turret]

Mars, 283x magnification, 10-6-2024, McKinney TX. Will do better next time 😛

[raven tiger]

Whats the best way to transfer a lot of subs taken on my phone to my computer?

[sour turret]

USB

[lean magnet]

either usb or if your subs are on a SD card you can just use a SD card reader

[shy snow]

usb cable, most of the time your charging cable

[tough nest]

Wasn't it like 200.000 fahrenheit in McKinney one time?

[tough nest]

That is the coolest shit ever

[tough nest]

What was the shutter speed

[sour turret]

@tough nest it does get hot af in McKinney. That didnt disturb the Mars shot this time though. Them mf clouds!

[tough nest]

https://youtu.be/EzA8DcAiijc?si=FlT2wFE-M-3W5wvu

[tough nest]

Idk pretty damn hot

[sour turret]

@tough nest i had forgotten about that news clip, i do remember seeing this. I'm pretty sure that was last year lol

[coral cedar]

How did you manage stack the pic?

[zealous scaffold]

i would assume in sequator since its really good at saving the foreground of an image

[iron bear]

I stacked the sky and the foreground in PixInsight. The sky stack blurred the foreground, and the foreground stack blurred the sky, so I had to merge them later in Photoshop. I processed both separately.

[iron bear]

Sequator is good for aligning, but on the other hand, it delivers pretty poor quality.

[zealous scaffold]

poor quality isnt really a huge deal when it comes to phone ap and widefield in my personal opinion

sequator is prob the most efficient process of stacking sky and foreground without a huge amount of issues or steps to touch things up

[fervent whale]

Sequator saved the the pain of dealing with it in dss

Image that came out was still decently good!

[zealous scaffold]

lmfao dss doesnt know the difference between foreground and sky, atleast from my attempts at stacking widefield in dss

[fervent whale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034944406622584872/1211372495051952168/PmzLjIC.jpg?ex=6705738d&is=6704220d&hm=8b98d45be439442fb787e5d8c8b602eed1be7d61582e80a0ded6d09ffb17a07f&

Sequator saved the ground

Ableit the noise ruined it either way

[zealous scaffold]

why is the ground so noisy lol

[fervent whale]

😅

No idea

[zealous scaffold]

tbh i would crop that really noisy purple area out so you have a bit of foreground on the bottom part of the image and then the sky above

kinda like this

you get rid of it a bit lol

[fervent whale]

I forgot why I didn't want to crop it

[zealous scaffold]

could also find a way to edit to make the foreground just completely back lit so it has no detail

so basically just making the entire foreground dark, although idk how you'd do that without a mask

idk its a good image i just recommend figuring out what caused that noise on the foreground lol

(i think i have an idea on what caused it)

[fervent whale]

It was years back on my phone, I don't think its worth the effort fixing imho

Now if I had a dlsr back then

Maybe

[zealous scaffold]

ah well i think its a laser built into the camera on the back of the phone, my phone has Laser Detect Auto Focus (LDAF) so it uses a laser to figure out how far an object is to focus in on it (i think), the only solution on my phone is to put electrical tape overtop the laser to dampen the amount it reflects on the layer of glass in front of the camera

[coral cedar]

So, we can actually capture deep sky object with our phone?

Gotta try that

[iron bear]

One of the reasons why most photos taken with a phone don't have good quality is due to several factors, and one of them is using the worst stacking software. I always try to use the best softwares available, even if I have to spend a lot more hours processing.

I used Sequator a lot in the beginning... But as I improved my processing, I realized it was greatly limiting my data.

[coral cedar]

Lemme try andromeda

[zealous scaffold]

i think the most limiting factor in all honesty is cost, a lot of the better stacking software costs money, i think for what its worth sequator and other free "worse" stacking softwares do fine as is, i've gotten great results with some of the worst stacking softwares, i do just find it slightly annoying that some access to better tools costs extra money even after the expenses on getting telescopes and other equipment for AP

[iron bear]

The stacking in PixInsight leaves the photo with much less noise, the stars have fewer artifacts, and the foreground looks immensely better. Sequator stack hot pixels to the foreground

[coral cedar]

Idk about siril, but it cost us storage

[zealous scaffold]

but doesnt pixinsight cost money?

[iron bear]

Siril is a free alternative, and the stacking result will be almost the same as PixInsight.

[zealous scaffold]

i didnt even know you could stack in siril lol

[coral cedar]

And you can add the star remover

[lean magnet]

I've always used siril to stack and it's always done its job fine except for when I gave it bad data which isn't sirils fault

[coral cedar]

So you can proccess the deepsky image and the star

Seperately

Idk about deep sky stacker

Is it actually good?

[zealous scaffold]

dss is good but it doesnt do great with foreground and sky

[lean magnet]

I never got it to work and I've heard bad things about it

but because i never got it to work I can't give an opinion myself since yk, never used it

[zealous scaffold]

i dont recommend using dss for widefield unless you only have sky in the image, or it'll blend the foreground into the sky and it'll just look really bad, dss is pretty good for stacking deep sky and its what most people use to my knowledge

[lean magnet]

siril has worked fine with foreground in the image for me

[quaint night]

30

sec

[tough nest]

Iso?

[quaint night]

200

the second image is a stack of two thunders

[tough nest]

That's really smart to take pictures of lighting like that

[quaint night]

[spice gale]

what do I do, 25% or 40 frames

got 800 frames of crappy saturn

btw pls ignore the WhatsApp thing, idk how else

it's easier like that (I'm fricking lazy)

[opaque tundra]

Do both and see which one turns out with better results

[spice gale]

ok I did

25 was better

tried 75 and it was bad

[opaque tundra]

Yea that’s usually too high

You can see the graph and see wether your data is good enough to stack a higher percentage

[spice gale]

yeah

welp, time to prepare for another 2 weeks of clouds

[spring viper]

I still use DSS the old fashioned way😎

[red ridge]

Jupiter n Orion Constellation

bad pleiades image

[fickle mulch]

What is the technique to achieve this shine? One extra long exposure and one normal exposure?

[coral cedar]

Over exposure and normal exposure

right

[fickle mulch]

The photo below is from last year and the one above is from this year.

[fickle mulch]

With the same smartphone

I believe the biggest difference is in the focus

[wind spoke]

veri sharp

[wind spoke]

how do u get smth lyk dis outta ur phone

[coral cedar]

I have high focal length of telescope, i record it at least for 20 second, i stack it, and then voila, just procces it at photoshop

[wind spoke]

what phone lad

[coral cedar]

The sky was very clear also

[wind spoke]

[coral cedar]

So it should helped, increase the sharpness

[coral cedar]

Samsung A53

[wind spoke]

damn nicee

[coral cedar]

Haha it just a lucky day

After that, the sky flooded with clouds

[vapid rock]

how is this pic of the South Pole of the moon?

The mountains in the craters (explained by ASTROBISCUIT, THE SAVIOUR OF THE NERDS, with a cup of tea) are visible

[nimble harness]

Quite blurry but it's a good start

[grizzled marten]

I'm really new to astrophotography and definitely don't got any equipment (I'm just using a 12G Samsung camera 😭) I usually go for imaging planets but today tried to tackle sm else, I didn't really put enough time into this and kinda rushed, BUT here are my first images of the Pleideas

[fickle mulch]

A Guide of Smartphone Astrophotography can be very helpful for you

It help me a lot

[grizzled marten]

Tru Tru, u gotta start somewhere ig

[spice gale]

that's how I started

I like where I am now

how I progresses in 1.5 years

[fickle mulch]

Hahaha one of my first

[spice gale]

yoo actually decent

[fickle mulch]

The B is 3, so it is very easy to make something

[spring viper]

Epic

[zealous edge]

My first ever captures of the Aurorae, 50 second long integration time for all of them. Taken using my iPhone 12 and AstroShader.

I never expected to see this gorgeous phenomenon here on the East Coast US, but sometimes the night sky surprises us.

[spice gale]

lucky

[zealous scaffold]

Best I got in Kansas

[sour turret]

those are sick!

[bronze jackal]

My photos from last night

[opaque tundra]

i tried using my samsung s20 and did manual focus, for some reason it wouldnt get focus at all

i tried everything from 0.5 - till 1.0 focus

stars would appear small and tight in the preview but the image would be blurry

[royal fern]

Woooahbhh

[tough nest]

From where?

[bronze jackal]

Lincolnshire Bortle 5

[sick kernel]

How did you take this
@vapid rock

[nimble harness]

[ivory thunder]

coathanger

[ivory thunder]

grahh finally moon with no weird contrast line

[ivory thunder]

why does moon look like a block of ice now I realise

[shy snow]

Did the phone move during the image capture in any way?

[opaque tundra]

I had it on a tripod and had a timer pn so it wouldn’t move

[frank jungle]

Saturn captured through Celestron Powerseeker 114EQ

[nimble harness]

Yo that's not bad 👀

[tough nest]

How much magnification‽

[frank jungle]

Thanks

[frank jungle]

675× magnification. I know it's out of the useful magnification. But it gave the best views of Saturn I ever saw through an eyepiece

[tough nest]

Nahh

You must have it wrong

That is literally 3 tumes your useful magnification

[frank jungle]

🤣true

[frank jungle]

But it gave better views than 12 mm and 4 mm eyepiece

[tough nest]

What was the eyepiece/Barlow?

[frank jungle]

3× Barlow🥴

[tough nest]

And

Eyepiece

[frank jungle]

4 mm eyepiece 🥴

[tough nest]

You weren't lying

Jesus

How was the seeing?

[frank jungle]

It was extremely clear with fog descending

[tough nest]

Ok so literally perfect seeing

[frank jungle]

Yea

[bronze jackal]

Speaking of seeing does anyone know why looking through my telescope from inside through the window is often clearer than opening the window

[tough nest]

Different focus perhaps?

[spice gale]

could temperature be a factor?

[tough nest]

Good point

[spice gale]

that is why u should let ur telescope to adapt to the temperature

[tough nest]

Frogot about that

[spice gale]

and when u open the window the temp changes

[spice gale]

I never do that lol

[tough nest]

Me neither💀

[wind spoke]

powerseeker

[vale lintel]

Some pictures from last night

Tsuchinsan, Andromeda, Saturn, Venus, Moon (just missed the plane), Clean Moon

all shot on Iphone 14pro and unfortunately extremely compressed due to discord

[fiery rover]

Don't listen to that crap...only true problem with huge magnification is the reduction in brightness as a result of all the lenses getting into the way

I daily drive my Heritage 130p at 565x mag

[potent gorge]

bruh

thats stupid

[fiery rover]

I'm stupid

So...

[potent gorge]

you physically arent gonna resolve anything

[fiery rover]

I guess we all need a spark of stupidity

[fiery rover]

For visual, it's kinda nice to observe in high mags

And if u got high quality barlows, brightness isn't that much of a problem

Yes sharpness isn't going to be optimal

But who tf cares

[potent gorge]

its fun if youve got good seeing condtions

[tough nest]

Do you live in the mountains?

[fiery rover]

I wish I did...but no unfortunately...I live in a bortle 9 city with 6 million fcking residents

I've tried things with my telescope that actually worked that u could never have imagined...not the dirty things

[lean magnet]

????

bro why

😭

[fiery rover]

Why...not

[tough nest]

So this is what you are seeing...

[lean magnet]

too much magnification

are you in space

[fiery rover]

There's no such thing from what I recall

[lean magnet]

is there no atmosphere limiting your magnification

[lean magnet]

all you're doing is making it harder to keep the object centered

no extra detail

[fiery rover]

There's nothing limiting me from stacking 5 Barlows together

[lean magnet]

physically nothing is limiting you from doing it

[fiery rover]

Skill issue

[lean magnet]

but there's no point

[fiery rover]

Dude...u need to try it

I used to turn ppl off when they talked about ultra high mags

But it works

[lean magnet]

it isn't giving any advantage wdym

[fiery rover]

Well yes...u lose sharpness

[lean magnet]

but I have, and it is horrible

jupiter through a 114mm telescope at 300x looked bad and I had good seeing

[fiery rover]

Have u tried it on planets? Yes u lose on sharpness, but sharpness is kinda shitty anyways

[lean magnet]

"Sharpness is kinda shitty anyways"

[fiery rover]

Don't compare a random 114mm telescope with the Heritage130p

This telescope is a legend

[lean magnet]

I have a 150p

[fiery rover]

Have u tried it on it?

[lean magnet]

I'm talking about a 114mm bc that's the most I've ever pushed past the magnification limit

[fiery rover]

Isn't it though?

[lean magnet]

what are you talking about 😭

sharp views are bad?

[fiery rover]

I'm saying that when u look at Mars even with 260x mag sharpness is shit anyways...why not zoom in a bit more so that u can see more than a little red dot?

And again...there's no such thing as a magnification limit

That's a wrong term

[lean magnet]

but there is

[fiery rover]

Highest advisable magnification is a better term

[lean magnet]

sure it changes with seeing conditions but there is a point where increasing the magnification doesn't reveal any more details

[lean magnet]

...

because you aren't revealing any extra details than that dot

you aren't seeing more than a red dot

[potent gorge]

yes there is. its called the laws of physics.

there is a point at which youa re trying to magnify more than how much you can physically resolve

[lean magnet]

exactly

[fiery rover]

But u still can put 10000000x mag on a telescope...thing is u most probably won't see anything at all

No one is preventing u from that

That's my point

[tough nest]

Because I love seeing this through my telescope!

[potent gorge]

no ones gonna do it bc theres no point in doing it

[tough nest]

Wait wrong picture

What

[fiery rover]

Bruh...noob hater

[potent gorge]

you physically cant resolve anythingy more than double the telescopes appertuere

[lean magnet]

and our point is that doing that will not give better views

[fiery rover]

Seems like uve grown ur knowledge since we last talked grand...

[lean magnet]

the limit to what you can resolve changes with aperture and seeing conditions but the limit is absolutely still there always

[lean magnet]

last time we talked you said because I don't live in a b9 area I have good seeing

😭

[fiery rover]

Yeah?

Wanna switch places with me?

[lean magnet]

💀

[fiery rover]

Bottle 9 sucks

[tough nest]

Now you gotta honor me

[lean magnet]

are we having this conversation again

[tough nest]

I am orange

[lean magnet]

bortle has nothing to do with seeing...

I've told you this alreadu

[tough nest]

Ich sprekken dutch

[fiery rover]

Damn dude u really are a 12yo

[tough nest]

No!

I'm 12.5!

Lol

[fiery rover]

Funny

[tough nest]

This is a stupid argument

[fiery rover]

Playing with words

Anyways

[lean magnet]

fr

[lean magnet]

???

[tough nest]

Imma leave

[fiery rover]

By seeing I meant quality of what ur seeing...if u tell me bortle doesn't matter for that...then u should maybe reconsider it

[lean magnet]

seeing means seeing conditions

you should've specified quality of what you're seeing

[fiery rover]

Sorry for English not being my mother tongue

[potent gorge]

yea dont tell people youre underage here

[fiery rover]

Mods ban this dude

I mean n

Not sage

Lol

The other dude

[potent gorge]

[fiery rover]

That is underage

[tough nest]

Yeah sage is chill

And Australian

Which makes him cooler

[potent gorge]

zegerys in chat so i could ping him

na im not

[fiery rover]

Naaaah ☠️

[lean magnet]

i think I'm gonna just go to slepe

[tough nest]

Good call

[lean magnet]

i think you also said i needed a mount with at least 14kg capacity for a 4kg scope which i could be wrong about but I don't think that is true at all

[lean magnet]

Yea I'll just go to slee0

Gn

[sick rain]

Single 16s exposure
I hope to see some clear skies this weakened so I can do a few minutes of integration

[zealous edge]

Wow, what bortle?

[sick rain]

5-6

[zealous edge]

Oh wow, higher than I expected

I was thinking it'd be atleast bortle 3

[sick rain]

It doesn't matter that much. Comets are relatively bright

Well at least this one

[bronze jackal]

Today was my first time seeing a comet naked eye

Was pretty cool

[lean magnet]

Same

[bronze jackal]

First image 18x 4s stack, second image a single 20s exposure

[bronze jackal]

My best photos of Pleiades and Hyades taken with S22 Ultra 10x lens. Roughly 90x and 60x 4s respectively, ISO 1600

[timid wedge]

twilight or night?

14 sec

[sick rain]

Twilight

[timid wedge]

so bortle doesnt matter then

[sick rain]

Yeah

[royal fern]

Samsung m14
Celestron powershitter 76Az

[dry falcon]

What time did you take that and where did you take that? (Just say the country not your actual house and stuff)

[bronze jackal]

Last night in the uk roughly 19:30

[zealous scaffold]

Nah we need the exact coordinates smh

[dry falcon]

just had to make sure

[dry falcon]

also ty

[zealous scaffold]

I wasn't poking fun at all I was just making a joke :)

[dry falcon]

Yeah I know dw : )

[lean magnet]

i no longer like this comet

sequence stuff was a pain

bc i was stupid

[zealous scaffold]

thats just life in comet civilization

[royal fern]

Woww

[royal fern]

Bro at least u got to capture that!
I tried 9 times and failed every time

[zealous scaffold]

mines not that crazy lol, i was gonna get more data but a sheriff stopped me because i was technically tresspassing on a landfill even though i was outside the gate of it

he said i could continue shooting but he didnt advise that i stayed there much longer jsut because another sheriff might come and not be as chill as him lol

[royal fern]

Ahh

[royal fern]

Ohh 😭😭

Idk why I couldn't even see the comet

I took many exposures

Every day

Different settings

But still

Got nothing

[zealous scaffold]

were u pointing in the right spot lol

western sky, to the right of venus higher up on the horizon at sunset

[lean magnet]

if you're using a phone it doesn't even matter

with a phones focal length you just point west and you see it

[zealous scaffold]

yeah i just shoot widefield with phone

its jsut helpful to know where it is so you can center it

[royal fern]

yes

[sour turret]

Not bad for my first try at this comet 🤷🏼‍♂️ Less wind would have helped. Needed more exposure time to capture more of the tail ☄️

[sick rain]

2h of integration

[spice gale]

u suree this was taken with a phone?

[sick rain]

Yeah. That's my best shot yet but far from the absolute best I could do.

[spice gale]

its an incredible photo no doubt, what phone

[sick rain]

Motorola Edge 20 Lite

[spice gale]

nice

[sick rain]

Well I wouldn't say it's a nice phone but at least it has RAW and manual mode

[spice gale]

lucky

i gotta shoot trough deepskycamera for raw

[sick rain]

Ig I'm lucky for a 200$ phone

[spice gale]

real

[dusk crow]

Finally captured the Comet! iPhone 13, 3x30s in B6

[bronze jackal]

Cygnus shot i took earlier this year

[zealous edge]

quick little widefield shot of our temporary iceball friend. I liked the composition of this, having the trees surrounding the shot with Atlas in the center.

Just a ten second exposure on my iPhone 12, bortle 7.5, processed in the default iPhone image editor. Definitely plan on getting a hopefully better shot of it if I get the chance.

[fleet bramble]

what time did you take this?

[zealous edge]

7:41 PM, EDT.

[fleet bramble]

how long after sunset?

[iron bear]

Maybe I need a dew heater 💀

The grass and the cars woke up just like my telescope; dripping with water.
99% humidity

the phone stays under the telescope, so it doesn't get wet

[zealous scaffold]

ah good thing the phones okay!

[solar sapphire]

My photo of the comet

[spring viper]

Dindundinbin atlas

[dry falcon]

What settings do you guys use to capture the comet?

[sick rain]

It's different for different phones

[dry falcon]

What would it be for iphone?

[lean magnet]

Just mess around with the settings until it looks good

I used 15s 125 iso

28 of them

tho my result wasn't great

[dry falcon]

So 28x15 right?

[lean magnet]

As many as you can

Go until it's 7 degrees above horizon

[dry falcon]

ok ty

[pallid sparrow]

First one is a 1 minute exposure, the video is a time lapse from a 4 minute exposure photo

not very happy with the result, but because we have really cloudy weather the next days it's okay

[coral cedar]

Orion Nebula captured last night 1 sec exposure x 500 frame 8.25 minutes sub, need more actually.

[fickle mulch]

Wow!!! Your hard work paid off!

[coral cedar]

Yeahhh kindaa, it was pretty dang worth it

Spend last night like 3 hours

Standing over there clicking the shot button

Ughhhh

[zealous scaffold]

do you not use deepskycamera (android) or astroshader (ios)

you can set how many frames u wanna take and can set the exposure, iso, etc and it'll automatically take a picture and then take another until it goes through the amount of frames u set, way better than manually doing it

[lofty trench]

Taken with iPhone 14 m27 and m13

Stacked 10 sec exposure

50 images

[slate bone]

Those nights were hard but they turned out to be very interesting.

This was one i did with my phone

A crappy celestron eyepiece with an achromatic refractor, i was freezing my booty off this night.

[formal notch]

Very nice colour

[coral cedar]

Wowww

[coral cedar]

You still need to align it so...

Manually shot lmao

[coral cedar]

Damn bro what setting

[slate bone]

this was sort of cheating, I used a narrowband filter, but I think i could have done it in broadband too

I think this was ISO 800 doing 30 second exposures with my samsung galaxy S23

[coral cedar]

Damn...

I see

Narrowband filter works too huhh

Image looking sharp and greatt

[slate bone]

yeah it does lol

Im surprised it does because when you try to use one visually, you can almost only see the reflection of your eye unless you block ALL light around the eyepiece to your eye

which you probably know is next to impossible to do with a phone mount on an eyepiece

you're bound to get some kind of light leak

[coral cedar]

Oh yes indeed

Using phone way harder than using dslr

Idk but for me it need a precise spot

So it goes perfecr circle

You know it sucks when you fail to align it

[slate bone]

yup

which is like 90% of the time for me

[coral cedar]

Yess

[elder birch]

Actually AstroShader auto-aligns and stacks everything so you just get a single output.

However you don’t get the subs if you want to reprocess. Although this will be available in a couple of months (raw/tiff/heic only)

[coral cedar]

Astroshader available only at ios right?

Mine was android so...

Any softwarw stack for android?

[elder birch]

There’s DeepSkyCamera but it doesn’t live stack.
I’ve heard good things about openlivestacker too, and fairly sure it auto stacks.

[spice gale]

rly?

[somber lantern]

They're planning on adding it tho

For the pro version

When it launches

[elder birch]

Ah ok cool. Makes sense as it seems like something quick they could add that a lot of people would use on mobile

[spice gale]

but the question is if its worth it

[floral token]

Any tips on phone and tripod astrophotography

[sick rain]

Tell me what you know so I can just add up to that information

[floral token]

I have only taken photos of this comet, with no tripod just my phone

[floral token]

The tripod is coming today so I can take pictures of comet tomorrow, tho I think I will also start ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY from just mobile and tripod untill my budget is good for good mount

So basically I am kinda new to take exposure from tripod and all

So any tips or suggestions will help me

[lofty trench]

Pleiades seen from Shenandoah national park Virgina

[sick rain]

As of phone settings (using pro/manual mode), you need to zoom in on a star and focus manually. The exposure time should be as long as your phone allows but if there are star trails make it shorter until the trails disappear. The ISO should be to a point where the image isn't too bright or too dark. The WB(white balance) should be around 4000K. If you plan on stacking multiple images you need to dither (shift the angle of your phone slightly every 3-4 images). If you want to add a foreground, do so separately. There are many tutorials on that.

[floral token]

Thanks dude, so we have to stack to see detailed coloured photos

I have a question, I have around 40-60 images of comet from a phone, but at different angle different zoom and settings, is there any way to stack those? Can anyone help me? I tried yesterday and I got errors and everything was not going well .

[sick rain]

Also shoot in RAW if your phone supports it

[floral token]

It does

[spring viper]

I have problems with stacking a large number of frames in AstroShader. In the summer I shot m33 for about two hours, and in the end I got a photo where the frames were not stacked correctly

Adjustment was done approximately every 10 frames.

Up to 1 hour there are no problems. Perhaps this is due to the alignment settings, I had it light

[lean magnet]

whats the best phone for ap that isnt xiaomi thats cheap?

by cheap i mean >500 usd

[potent gorge]

a dslr

[zealous scaffold]

some of the older google pixel phones might suffice, they have a built in astrophotography mode, although the camera has a laser used for autofocus on the back of it so you'd have to put tape over it since theres no way to disable it, and if your wanting to get out of phone ap definitely get a dslr

[lean magnet]

i already have a uranus c

but im gonna get a new phone and i want it to be good for astro too

rn i have a s20+

[potent gorge]

dont buy a phone just for astro

buy something that at least gets the job done. youve already got an astrophotography rig

[somber lantern]

6s hand tracked !!!

[remote cypress]

Here are some moon pics I got with my 90mm table top Mak

Some 30-60 sec handheld videos I stacked and some super basic processing

Got these back in January

Here are ones I got this month

[lofty trench]

What softwares should I use to take deep sky images and landscape astrophotography with my iPhone 14 and windows computer?

[potent gorge]

siril

[remote cypress]

siril is a bit hard to use lol I cant figure it out

[potent gorge]

skill issue

watch a youtube tutorial. its much easier then

[remote cypress]

it is : (

[lofty trench]

I recommend the nebula photos tutorial with ifn and the dumbbell nebula

[remote cypress]

if I had the data lol

I only have a 90mm mak

and a 12 inch dob and my phone lol

I dun have good astro gear

[lean magnet]

I don't know of any iPhone apps that save each image so you can stack it yourself on pc

Saving each image is planned to come to astroshader though

[remote cypress]

astroshader is a good stacking app for iphone

[lean magnet]

Yes but it live stacks

[remote cypress]

ye

[lean magnet]

Can't save every image

[lofty trench]

Night cap

[remote cypress]

i see what you are getting at

[lofty trench]

Took these with it

And stacked them onto pc

[remote cypress]

what scope u used

[lean magnet]

it's not

just use it more and you'll figure it out

[remote cypress]

yeah gotcha

[lean magnet]

I am not good at processing at all but I know how to use siril

[remote cypress]

have not put in time into rlly

[lofty trench]

5” reflector no tracking 10 sec exp, I know the images aren’t the best but they are my first deep sky images

[remote cypress]

better than mine I got with on a 12" dob

how short were the subs

or did u only do 10 ssecs each

[lofty trench]

10 secs each only

[remote cypress]

I cant get any color with 10 secs on those where I live hah

[remote cypress]

How dark are your skies??!!

I practically live in the city

[lofty trench]

I live in Berle 8-9 skies

Bottle

Bortle

But I used a light pollution filter

[remote cypress]

what phone do u have??!

[remote cypress]

ohh

[grizzled lance]

That's b8 🤯

[remote cypress]

thought those light pollution filters were a scam

[lofty trench]

No they work great

[potent gorge]

they work if you live in a place that doesnt use LEDs

[grizzled lance]

I got like a very cheap one

[remote cypress]

I heard some of the high end ones were good

[lofty trench]

Can help a lot if u live in or close to the city

[remote cypress]

I think my city does not

they look yellow

[potent gorge]

pretty sure you can get yellow LEDS

[remote cypress]

they kinda look like older lights

[remote cypress]

what are some good ones

that are good for cutting through the pollution

[grizzled lance]

Check the lights your city uses and then get a filter for that

It can differ

[lofty trench]

I use the uhc lpr filter by celestron

[potent gorge]

if your city uses LEDs, light pollution filters wont work

[lofty trench]

but if you want to cut out light pollution you should read this article too: https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/top-astronomy-kit/light-pollution-filters-telescopes

[potent gorge]

the best light pollution filter is driving to darker skies

[remote cypress]

actually though

[lofty trench]

I agree, but in my opinion they can significantly increase contrast, detail, overall visibility while decreasing light pollution (which can help if you live close or near a city), it can also make you post processing much easier

[potent gorge]

as i said before, light pollution filters only work effectively if you live in a place where LED lights arent used

so if youre living in/near a city, those filters arent going to work

hence what you should instead get is a narrowband filter. but for a phone, it would be unwise

[remote cypress]

pretty sure they are just normal city lights

big light bulbs

google gave me a non answer as usual

[potent gorge]

they would be LEDs

[remote cypress]

really they dont look like it

[lofty trench]

No one ever said we were using broadband filters

My filter ia narrowband

[potent gorge]

what filter are you using

[lofty trench]

uhc lpr filter, its narrowband and allows h alpha and oIII emission lines

[potent shore]

Camera?

S23 FE

[spice gale]

fake mw

[ivory thunder]

what is a mw

[spice gale]

milkyway

[floral token]

Can I photograph milky way from just phone and tripod?

I am at bottle 5 area

[somber lantern]

Yes

I did it from bortle 8-9

[sick kernel]

C/2023 A3 atlas trought iphone 13 mini

My first time imagining

(Imaging)

A comet

Final pic

[floral token]

Any tips or any ideas to make my first experience more good with comet and milky way

I have nothing phone 1 and I just bought a 20 buck tripod

What exposure did U used and how many photo's?

[lean magnet]

i do 15s exposures

and always do as many as you can

[floral token]

Thanks

What about comets wh

What yours good exposure and iso for that?

[lean magnet]

I did 15s 125 iso

But that was on the 15th

The comet is a lot dimmer now

[floral token]

Ohh

Thanks

[royal fern]

Wowww

[somber lantern]

I did 40 8 seconds exposures

But I could probably do longer

Up to 12 seconds probably, above that it starts to trail but that also depends

[floral token]

Thanks

[lean magnet]

what about xiaomi included

[lean magnet]

im getting a new phone anyway but i want it to be good at astro too

[floral token]

my first shot at our galaxy! only one photo, no stacking and no editing

👽☄️

[dry falcon]

The comet with my Seestar s50 and my iPhone 11

[plush palm]

I also have a seestar, here is it with realme 9 phone

[dry falcon]

That’s nice 👍

[floral token]

Anyone tried Andromeda galaxy with just phone and tripod?

[wild flame]

what mag would you be looking for?

here's an old project of mine I need to redo

taken with just my S22 ultra's 10x telephoto and a tripod

albeit only 2 hours total

[floral token]

It's good tho

[floral token]

Magnitude?

[wild flame]

magnification

widefield? 3x?

you can easily get andromeda with a widefield shot but it wouldn't be very detailed

[floral token]

Yeah I had the same doubt and I tried to ask ai

Lol

[wild flame]

ah

andromeda is hard to shoot with any phone

even a DSLR and kit lens would get a ton more detail with a fraction of the integration time, but where's the fun in that?

now that I have a tracker and access to darker skies, i'm gonna try to reshoot it and get a ton more detail

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what phone do you have?

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Nothing phone 1

20 dollar tripod

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hm, I dont really have any knowledge about the nothing phones

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It's kinda same

Not too great not too bad

No stacking

I think it's not that bad

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seems like it's pretty heavy in it's post processing

do you have a RAW mode?

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Yes

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What do U mean ?

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I'd recommend using that

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Yes I use raw

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as in it's auto noise reduction and smoothing

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But when I zoom in , idk but it doesn't do in raw mode

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makes sense

all it's doing is digitally zooming so I wouldn't recommend that

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I really don't know what you talking, I am new lol

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basically unnecessary AI stuff

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What does Pretty heavy in its post processing mean?

Like bad or good?

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it tampers with the data to make it slightly more appealing to the average user

it might be good for quickly snapping a picture of a tree or something, but its a bad thing for astro

in a sense, it's smudging your picture to smooth it out

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So what should I do?

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dunno if you can really do anything about it

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Gcam?

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the camera might automatically do that regardless

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I am cooked 🥲

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some astrocam apps might bypass it but I dont know if nothing supports it

eh its more of an annoyance than anything

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Damn

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although this is why samsungs are probably the best phones for astro since they have the most flexible camera apps and tools

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Should I zoom in or just default 1x ?

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1x

zooming in does nothing

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Alright

I am also kind of confused on image processing and stacking

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do you have a PC?

or any computer?

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If I use same iso, s and zoom, it should be good

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that stuff doesnt matter as much as you think

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Asus g14 2021 it's good 16 gb

Laptop

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as long as it has windows, you'll be fine

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I do

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or any PC OS

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Thanks for helping me out dude 🥲

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yea np

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I think 1000 iso is good

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I can try to process if you stack anything

bit high

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High?

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400 should be fine

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Maybe 1200 or 1600?

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Oh higher means 3200 or 100?

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I'd say 200-400 ISO and longer exposure

5 seconds maybe

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I will try

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5 sec?

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5-10 maybe

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Is that short right?

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well you'

you're untracked

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I thought more exposure means more light gathering

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so you have to worry about trailing

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Oh yeah lol🤣

I will try this week

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alr good luck and clear skies

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Maybe on Thursday

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oh yea are you actually trying to get any detail from andromeda?

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Isn't that supposed to be?

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then yea shorter exposures will be your friend

it's a sacrifice you have to make for better detail

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try to find a sweet spot where you dont see any trailing in your exposures but still get decent data

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Yes

The weather is also good on Thursday

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actually let me throw this in a calculator

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Calculator 👽

?

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what area do you live in roughly?

I need the dec

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La porte, Indiana

Usa

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oh that aint too far from me, i'll just throw in my dec

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What does Dec means?

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declination

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What about that ? Earth rotating*?

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it's basically where you are on the earth in a vertical line drawn from the south to the north poles

the equator would be 0 degrees

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Ohh, I need learn that

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anything below the equator would be from -1 degree to -90 degrees and vice versa

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Oh ok

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but yea I think you would be around 40 degrees

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its useful if you get a star tracker and wanna quickly set it up to the north star

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?

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most mounts use dec as a vertical measurement so you can just set it to that and you're already roughly polar aligned

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I was planning to buy a goto mount and refractor next year

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as long as you're pointing near the north star

which mount?

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2 budget answer

1 is star adventure goto

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GTI?

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2 one is ioptron skyguider TM pro camera mount

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Yeah

It's expensive for me that why I am not buying this year

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GTI is def the best budget goto mount

kinda mad I got the 2i instead but it works just fine

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Till then will learn more about astronomy and astrophysic also some basic ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY

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2i also works good

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yea untracked is where you learn the bulk of your skills

it's a really solid tracker

I probably abused it more than most astronomers and it still tracks flawlessly

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I really like this discord, learned many things from basic

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Haha 🤣

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the starter forums like this one and beginners place is really friendly, but as you get higher in skill, more people have an attitude

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2.45 million light year means 2.5 million year to reach light ?