Phone Astrophotography

[smoky scaffold]

@tulip geyser It was hella windy 😭 but I managed this pic of bode’s cigar 400x2s 15000ish iso

and the ring nebula. The colors are pretty cool but you can’t really tell it’s the ring nebula

[patent zodiac]

Use a barlow

[smoky scaffold]

yeah I should’ve

[patent zodiac]

This is my orion with my phone 105x10s
130/900 newtonian
Eq2 mount

I really missed doing astrophotography with my phone

Brings me back to 2022 when i got my firts scope

[smoky scaffold]

that’s very clean wow

[formal notch]

mine dosent look that great (my phone res is low)

[patent zodiac]

Yeah now i feel stupid that i didnt do this before

[patent zodiac]

My old phone was worse trust me but now i have a 4k camera but its now worth it beacuse i only have a 1080p screen

[patent zodiac]

@iron bear thank you for helping i got some good results

[tulip geyser]

How’d u find that?!

[smoky scaffold]

well this isn't the first time I've shot it, it's also in a really easy spot

[tulip geyser]

Ima look it up

[smoky scaffold]

its right in between two bright stars

[tulip geyser]

At like two in the morning it comes up from my horizon

[smoky scaffold]

yea its still rising for me but I was eager to get a better picture than my previous one

[tulip geyser]

Definitely couldn’t resolve the shape myself

[dense moat]

Thinking about trying to shoot mineral moon but idk really how, like is it a processing thing a shooting thing, do you have to stack

?

[iron tundra]

Moon with 8” newt with IPhone 13 Pro

[smoky scaffold]

yes stack

[shy snow]

what app did you use man? and also what format was the video

im struggling to find an app for planetary on android

[spring viper]

Motioncam

[shy snow]

is it available till now in google play store?

[spring viper]

Yes

For free

[shy snow]

and what format was the video?

[spring viper]

Raw

Or .dng

[shy snow]

videos have a RAW format?

[spice gale]

and is your image stacked?

[spring viper]

Yes

[bronze jackal]

Bit of a rant to nobody but the astro mode on the expert raw app for S22 Ultra is super intermittent in deciding if it wants to actually function properly. Ever since I got the phone the astro mode has had a variety of similar bugs regarding capturing a photo.

Sometimes It will get to the end of the timer, then say "camera failed" and just not give an image. Sometimes the app just stops shooting after a set period of time, it seems to be a repeatable amount of seconds, around 70 seconds on a 4 minute shot, and 130 seconds on a 7 or 10 minute shot. When it does this either just breaks mid shot requiring a restart, or it just "finishes" capturing the photo and goes back to the main camera UI as if nothing happened, I still get the image in both cases but obviously it's a 1-2 minute exposure and really noisy. Also occasionally the expert raw app just completely crashes mid shot as well.

It's a shame because the quality of the photos when it does work fine is decent and it's a lot less effort than having to stack manually. I've tried using sequator a few times but the results haven't quite been as good, although maybe that's just a skill issue from me.

[nimble harness]

I tired to take a milkyway wide field but this is about all I got

I am in bortle 7 skies though

There was quite a bit of camera shake too

[spice gale]

I also live in b7, it won't work unless it's under b5, trust me

[nimble harness]

Yeah it is pretty tough

I am going to a b2 this summer though

So hopefully I will be able to get some good shots

[spice gale]

I also went into a b3 and if you max exposure and ISO, you should get impressive images, last summer I only went in that place once, but this summer (after the exams) I'll go there more often, hopefully

[nimble harness]

Awesome bro good luck

I should definitely try that

[spice gale]

can't wait for summer

[nimble harness]

Same

[spice gale]

How about the nebulaes in the milky way core

[winged crater]

@wind spokethen the sun at midnight 😭😭😭

Its day

We have day the whole day

Bruh

And sun

And moon

[gusty zodiac]

Jupiter, I think its alright for a single shot. I might try this again but with a barlow this time

[tulip geyser]

What kind of scope do you have?

[opaque tundra]

Are there no dso visible in summer?

[patent zodiac]

Yes there is like m16 or m8, north america nebula, sadr region, dumbell nebula and m57 the ring nebula, also some galaxies like m81 and m82 or the whirlpool

[opaque tundra]

Are they hard to image at high bortle levels?

Like as easy as Orion or waaaay more difficult

[gusty zodiac]

80/900mm long-tube refractor. Dk the exact model though

[ebon lion]

Dood wat da faq

WEHR AR U

xdsd

[gusty zodiac]

prob somewhere up in Iceland/Greenland/Northern Canada lol

[winged crater]

Finland

[gusty zodiac]

maybe

[winged crater]

@gusty zodiac im from finland

[gusty zodiac]

cool

[winged crater]

@gusty zodiac not so cool at summer night

[gusty zodiac]

rip

[opaque tundra]

oh dang that sucks

overhere it gets dark but idk what will even be visible at b8

[iron bear]

Crux at the sky at moon light night

• Xiaomi 12, 55s iso 50. Single shot at raw.
  fixed tripod. Bortle 3 with full moon

[zealous edge]

holy cow dude

literally turned night into day

[edgy talon]

Hope you got a solar filter

[knotty mica]

Got this quick 1s exposure of 12p/ pon-brooks, it looked a lot better visually through the eyepiece though.

[terse smelt]

oh man the tail is bright

[zealous edge]

I wish I could see this one, oh well. Maybe next time.

[terse smelt]

? both hemispheres will be able to see it if you have a good western horizon

[patent zodiac]

Sadly i cant, some hills are covering up to 20° of the sky from the horizon

[terse smelt]

i dunno go up the hills

[nimble harness]

I need a phone adapter so badly

[atomic rampart]

This color noise is killing me and my photo I'm going to do jpg from now on

S23 ultra by the way

I think I got 25m of exposure I can't remember

[terse smelt]

do not jpeg

[nimble harness]

How do you not do jpeg

[zealous scaffold]

Your phone should have a setting to shoot in RAW

[zealous scaffold]

^^^^ deepskycamera shoots in raw

And is generally just a must if your doing phone ap lol

[ancient rampart]

Raw is a must in every astrophoto tbh

[zealous scaffold]

Oh I was talking about deepskycamera being a must if your doing phone ap

[ancient rampart]

Oh yeah

[atomic rampart]

That's not jpeg

[dark ridge]

W

[terse smelt]

l

[tulip geyser]

W

[plush palm]

Oh hey @spice gale and @short meadow

[spice gale]

Sup

[short meadow]

Yea

Heyy

Oh wow

Now I se

[tough nest]

How do you guys get pictures of Jupiters cloud belts. Like whenever I point my scope and phone at it, even if I turn down the exposure, iso etc it either looks like a bright ball or an orange ball

[zealous scaffold]

For one its good to ask what scope you have and what phone you have.

[tough nest]

Srry, heritage 130p and OnePlus

[zealous scaffold]

So if atmospheric conditions are in your favor you should be able to see the cloud bands with a 25mm eyepiece, you can also do a 10mm or even a 6mm for a closer zoom although that'll make the image a little more fuzzy. OnePlus phones dont have the best camera quality but you should still be able to get a decent image out of it.

Sometimes to view Jupiter you'll have to change more than just exposure and ISO, I always take a video of Jupiter and end up changing exposure and contrast which seems to do the trick most times, although I'm not very familiar with how OnePlus phones work so I'm not sure if thats something your able to do

[tough nest]

Man, maybe my atmosphere is just butt

[zealous scaffold]

Can you take a picture of what Jupiter looks like

before and after changing brightness and exposure and all that

[gusty zodiac]

have a manual focus

helps a ton

[tough nest]

I do as well!!!

[gusty zodiac]

first time doing constellation photos. 10 sec exposure on ISO 400 (200 ISO for all pics after the first one). Presumably a Bortle 4 location but I highly doubt that (Prob more like 6)

[edgy talon]

You’re focused.. right?

[edgy talon]

Your taking 10s exposures max on a very small object for your FOV, your signal to noise ratio will go to shit

[tough nest]

Yes! I am absolutely in focus

[edgy talon]

Collimated?

[cobalt brook]

What nebula is this?

Wrong chat probably, sorry but, anyway?

[pastel nexus]

That is the Western Veil Nebula

[pastel nexus]

Its an emission nebula caused by a star exploding

[atomic rampart]

Actually that's cropped

[pastel nexus]

you are getting a little bit of star trailing though. It might help the noise, to find the best iso setting for your phone and set it to that

[atomic rampart]

Yeah a little this was back when I was just beginning astrophotography with my phone

[edgy talon]

My point

[iron bear]

Messier 46

📋Exif:
🔭 Toya 114/900, motorized eq3 with onstep
📷 Xiaomi Mi9T + eyepiece 20mm 68 degrees svbony. 150x20s iso 1600
📌 Contryside of São Paulo, Brazil. Bortle with moon 60%.
@lucasgoncalves_js

[patent zodiac]

Whats that nebula?

[chilly vessel]

holy sweet jesus that is insane

no filters, just phone camera?

[opaque tundra]

Yea bro has an insane camera sensor on that puppy

[lean eagle]

Hi! I have a question regarding video files sizes. How big in terms of MB are your recent vids of planets? Asking so I know how to make mobile support better for https://eise.app

[iron bear]

NGC 2438

[iron bear]

Yep! With pinched optics at this time

[chilly vessel]

🤯

I need me a xiaomi phone

[iron bear]

Mp4 arround 1gb per minute. .SER arround 17gbs

[lean eagle]

I guess you're not recording in SER on your mobile phone?

[iron bear]

After conversion to Pipp. But I can record in raw through motioncam

[terse smelt]

phone does not like processing images

[lean eagle]

Yeah, for mobile I hope to upload the whole vid to the server instead of extracting and ranking frames in the browser, but I also don't want to overload the server instead.

[lean eagle]

Yeah I know

I'm not the best at that. Want to help? 😄

Or show me some sites you think match this usecase and I can be inspired by it

[edgy talon]

This some good shit

Advertising it in another server I love the idea

[fading bobcat]

The 1st was a single night mode shot, the 2nd one was over 100 2 second shots

[simple crow]

What telescope

[terse smelt]

What eyepiece

[lean eagle]

I think maybe WeTransfer would be a nice source of inspo

[royal fern]

hi

[formal notch]

hello

[edgy talon]

Check dms

[cobalt brook]

First time seeing the sun thru a telescope, this is so cool!

[zealous scaffold]

pretty cool, your using a solar filter right?

[zealous edge]

to be fair, if they were doing this without a solar filter, their eyes and even their camera would likely be incinerated.

[zealous scaffold]

yeah im just checking. theres people in this server that have done this without a filter

[zealous edge]

True. I remember one time the skies were really smoggy, and I could look directly at the sun through my DSLR camera and it was completely fine

It was super neat actually, being able to see sunspots with my own eyes and not needing any solar equipment

[zealous scaffold]

i mainly asked because of the orange glow you can see around it, ive never done solar so im not sure if it does that with a solar filter on or not

[zealous edge]

Ok so, with a solar filter on, usually the sun will just look red, but not bright. It does depend on the type of filter you use though, I'm just going off of what I saw through my astronomy teachers telescope after he put a solar filter on it.

I can probably find one of the unedited images I took

here

Taken with my phone pressed against the eyepiece, this is what it looked like to see the sun through my teachers telescope with the solar filter

I'm not sure if it looks like this through every kind of filter, or if they all vary a little in some way

[nimble harness]

What are the best settings for imaging the orion nebula 🤔

[zealous scaffold]

i tend to do 800-1600 ISO, and i like to do between 3-10 second exposures. integration time kinda depends on your phone and the quality of the camera. my int times for a really nice image are about 30-40 mins

its a fairly bright nebula so its not difficult to shoot by any means

[winged crater]

I have baader solar film

[spare ravine]

3 sec cigar galaxy trough a 12” dob

[gusty zodiac]

what's the yellowish band on the right

also did u see Bode's Galaxy?

[spare ravine]

I think just reflections form the eyepiece

[spare ravine]

Yes, both of them even visually

[gusty zodiac]

Yeah I have also seen Bode's visually even through a 4 inch scope in a fairly light-polluted enviorment

[spare ravine]

I can see some details in cigar visually

[gusty zodiac]

Yeah that I can't do

even Andromeda just looks like a grey hazy ball to me

[edgy talon]

Small scope I recon

[gusty zodiac]

ye

4 inch aperture

[edgy talon]

Sounds about right

[gusty zodiac]

yeah I think its like the third brightest galaxy after Andromeda and Triangulum (I have no clue if it rly is just guessing)

[opaque tundra]

Nice shot, what phone?

[lean eagle]

Coming soon..

@neat schooner ^ your data is so good for testing 😄

No time and/or knowledge on that. And I do think that training that algorithm would just result into the AI fixing mars things in your image that is not in your data at all, it's just making up stuff based on other mars images.

Just like I used a random AI sharpening tool, and it rendered a face in the Mars image.

Because it was trained on too many faces

Haha nice!

I'm more interested in an icon (app icon like) for in the browser tab.

This is just an AI generated thing

Not that bad!

I can add credits if you want? 😄

[patent zodiac]

Same, like i see a frisby with some smudges in the center

[neat schooner]

That’s not my data 🤔 or are you saying that my Jupiter data is good?

[lean eagle]

Ah no I was confused with tw astro tom. 😄

I also use your jup data for testing sometimes which is also great

[spare ravine]

Eh, for a 3 sec afocal photo its decent, I just put my phones camera up to the eyepiece, handheld and took an image

[patent zodiac]

I do the same just with my 224mc

[spare ravine]

I also have a 224

But it’s too zoomed in and I don’t have tracking yet

So I can’t really use it for deepsky

[patent zodiac]

Yeah cant really use it without tracking but this is what i got with it

[bronze jackal]

so I learned a few things. I've previously not had great results manually stacking compared to using the astro mode in the expert raw app.

Turns out the expert raw app isn't actually taking real raw images. What it seems to be doing is taking the uncompressed jpeg, slapping it in a .dng container, then massively overprocessing it applying loads of artificial sharpening and noise reduction, and calling it 'raw'.

I've just realised you can shoot raw in the default camera app and the output is wildly differend. Perhaps this will let me to get better results using sequator compared to the astro mode. Which hopefully will be the case after astro mode is completely dysfunctional with the 3x lens for me.

Got some clear skies and gonna give it a go rn, hopefully the results are good.

[tulip geyser]

Wow holy sh**

How

[spring viper]

5 min M3 from B7. 130pds, 6mm, Redmi note 7

[zealous scaffold]

ooh nice, ill have to try and shoot that tonight

[spring viper]

12,5 min Bodes. iPhone XS and AstroShader livestack. 130PDS and 2” 28 eyepiece.

Next night I'll try to photograph bode from B3

[zealous scaffold]

i lied i dont feel like setting up to shoot one object lol

[gusty zodiac]

You also have a crap ton of Galaxies to see (M81, M101, M51, Markarian's Chain etc)

And if you don't like that, you also have a bunch of other Globular Clusters available to see at that time (M53, M13, M92, M68, C66, C80/Omega Centauri etc)

[patent zodiac]

I have tracking and a 130/900 newtonian

I think its around 30min exposure

[crisp river]

Now wtf is this

[smoky scaffold]

could be a reflection on the lense

[crisp river]

It's lesar light

[opaque tundra]

Might be a galaxy merging with us

[zealous scaffold]

wind speeds were high and it was quite chilly out so i didnt want to do much shooting. also the fact that it only gets dark at about 8:40 now instead of 6:30 a month ago really stinks because i have less time to shoot now too

[bronze jackal]

I seem to have messed up the stars in post processing but oh well, it was my fist attempt using sequator.

North America Nebula
S22 Ultra 10x lens (230mm)
Iso 1600 F4.9
159x 4s

[bronze jackal]

taylor swifts private jet

[smoky scaffold]

thats really cool

[bronze jackal]

Corona Borealis and very faint and noisy T CrB before the recurrent nova

Probably deleted by discord compression but its there

[ancient rampart]

Adoro ver os os br aqui slk

[smoky scaffold]

do you guys think a UHC filter would be beneficial for shooting nebulae?

[clear hawk]

my first photo of the moon

focused mostly on Tycho crater

[spice gale]

M81 and m82 trough my telescope, show with my phone, 2 sec exposure and ISO 3200

Sadly I failed to capture m101 an m51, if somebody can help me find those

another one

[zealous edge]

these are M81 and M82, right?

[spice gale]

Yes

[winged crater]

Does the eise work for you on mobile?@wind spoke

[elder birch]

These are nice for a single sub.

Did you shoot in jpeg/heic on the default camera?
Maybe shooting raw and/or skipping the default noise reduction processes (causing the blotches) would be even better!

[spice gale]

I rlly don't know

I tried to photograph trough deepskycamera, but couldn't reach focus, so I continued with my normal camera

[crisp river]

Ursa Major

[fading bobcat]

It's a solomark 130 f/5 newt. Not the best imo, but I've managed

[fading bobcat]

32mm svbony lens.

Sorry for the late response, but discord never pinged me for it

[lean eagle]

Eise does not work on mobile yet, hence the UI is als not optimized there

Some mobile UI improvements will be live soon

[winged crater]

Do i

[lean magnet]

wdym it doesnt work on mobile? it works on mobile for me

[lean eagle]

It does? It performs terrible on my iphone 11 :).

[lean eagle]

You can select a vid from your phone, it ranks frames, and then it stacks and then you can do postprocessing?

[winged crater]

Not even uploading

[lean magnet]

yeah

works just like on pc

is it not supposed to work on phone?

[lean eagle]

It should work, but here it was terribly slow

[winged crater]

How long it took?@lean eagle @lean eagle

[smoky scaffold]

anybody know if the celestron X-Cel LX eyepieces are quality?

i’m looking to upgrading my plossl 25mm

[winged crater]

Idk

[lean eagle]

It took so long that I closed the tab and decided to look into it later. Getting the separate frames from the vid was just very tough. Maybe because it was mp4. Raw data is generally faster as no decompression is required.

I think it took 10 seconds for every second of video

[winged crater]

Ooh thats long

[zealous scaffold]

it'll only come through as on ping anyways so not to big of a deal

[lean magnet]

mine was slower but not terribly slow

[tulip geyser]

br

[knotty mica]

M42 with literally only my Iphone 14, bortle 3, no moon, great seeing conditions, 10 sec exposure. Held steady with only my hands. Theres lots of hot pixels and noise because I just zoomed in and did not use a telescope or anything.

[spice gale]

just with the phone, thats not bad

from b7 it looks like an ordinary star

but you can see the nebulosity just when you look trough a telescope, not even binos can see the nebula, still loks like a star

[opaque tundra]

I’m in b8-9 and I can see a grayness around the nebula with binos

[spice gale]

Well my binos are pretty small

[gusty zodiac]

same. Only 8x magnification. I do still use them quite a bit to view constellations in light polluted areas (also star clusters)

[opaque tundra]

Mine are 10x50

[plush palm]

Oh hello @spice gale

[spice gale]

SUP @plush palm , belive it or not, lots of people from our server is in this one

[plush palm]

Didn't know tbh

[ancient rampart]

Wide field i took a few minutes ago, couldnt reallly remove that light pollution

[smoky scaffold]

more gadgets

[zealous scaffold]

shooting orion rn

so far 12 min int time aiming for about 35

i believe ive gotten rid of my IR flash for good finally (probably not)

[smoky scaffold]

first light, 600x2s this eyepiece is a beast (literally, it’s humongous😭)

[ember nebula]

That's actually really cool, I've never seen M81 taken with a phone

[smoky scaffold]

I even got some NGC 3077

[zealous edge]

What's the darker spot in the center of your images? Is there a way to correct this at all?

[smoky scaffold]

I wish I knew man, people have told me it’s the phone too close to the eyepiece but I’ve tried moving it further back and it doesn’t change anything

[zealous edge]

Damn. What scope do you shoot through with your phone?

maybe the reason is behind the scope

[smoky scaffold]

Orion starblast

[zealous edge]

Oooh lucky, those are so rare.

Perhaps it's the spider's mirror?

[smoky scaffold]

really? I got mine off amazon

[zealous edge]

but that doesn't make much sense to me since it disappears anyway if you're focused right...

[zealous edge]

I've been wanting one for the longest time, and it's been unavailable for months, saying it's on back order. I check the official Orion website to see what the planned availability date is, and every time I check it's further away than the last

so idk

[smoky scaffold]

oh damn they must’ve run out recently

[zealous edge]

the Zhumell Z114 is entirely identical to the Starblast anyway, if in everything but its color, and that's still an available option

So I might get either that or the Z130 for visual and potentially astro

[zealous edge]

I wonder if it's atleast correctable by taking flats, that could potentially negate the dark circle

[smoky scaffold]

true but I don’t know how to take flats

and all my images are auto stacked results from astroshader

[zealous edge]

Ah ok

I was gonna say, you can take flats by covering the aperture of your scope with something dark, so that all the differing shades of grey in the lights average out when the images are stacked with the flats

Actually you know what

you could totally take flats with AstroShader, just set the imaging time to be as long as you'd usually do, perhaps even longer in order to compensate for the flats, and image as you usually would

but then at the end, put something over the aperture of the scope for the last minute or two of exposure

[smoky scaffold]

that’s actually pretty smart

[zealous edge]

So you'll take flats, and they'll all stack anyway since it's AstroShader

I just thought of this now, I'm sure other people have probably suggested it it before but I should try this

[smoky scaffold]

I could totally do that since you can pause shooting now

[zealous edge]

Oh shoot that's right

and better yet, it allows for longer exposures too since you don't need to worry as much about the target drifting out of view

[elder birch]

My guess also would be too close or too far away. I’ve also found certain focus combinations (scope vs phone) seem to make it worse or better

Background removal and black point might help reduce the effect. This was a quick attempt but you’ll get a better result with the original data

[opaque tundra]

How do you even find these faint objects?

[gusty zodiac]

For me, using an night-sky app (like Stellarium) helps out a lot. I essentially navigate from a brighter object (ie. a star or planet) to a fainter DSO using star patterns

[smoky scaffold]

^stellarium

but I can also sometimes make them out in the live view if I turn up my exposure

that’s what I did here

[opaque tundra]

I use that aswell but I’m quite bad at star hopping

[gusty zodiac]

I mean Bode's can be seen even without turning up more exposure

[smoky scaffold]

right

earlier I tried to find M86 and its surrounding galaxies but couldn’t see anything without turning up the exposure a whole lot

[gusty zodiac]

Markarian's chain

?

[smoky scaffold]

yes that’s what it’s called

I was feeling ambitious

couldn’t find it 😭

[gusty zodiac]

Yea those ones are a lot more dimmer

at least like Magnitude 8

Compared to Bode's Magnitude of 5-6

[smoky scaffold]

yup

but I’ve found magnitude 8 galaxies before

since these ones were elliptical it made them blend in as stars tho

[opaque tundra]

Guys I wanna attempt to stack some pics I took on my phone and do it on pc

Will DSS work?

[smoky scaffold]

yes

as long as your stars aren’t trailed

[opaque tundra]

It’s just a few pics of the Mw

I wish I knew I could stack them so I would’ve taken a lot more

[smoky scaffold]

hercules globular cluster, 600x1s low bortle 4

I had to shoot through some light clouds at points so the stars are a little fuzzy

and there was wind :(

[gusty zodiac]

You could also try the M92 globular cluster nearby. Its a little small but its really bright; kinda like a star

[tulip geyser]

Hercules globular cluster, AND Leo’s triplet tonight

@smoky scaffold

[smoky scaffold]

yooo leo triplet

i had no idea it was that bright

good job dude

[tulip geyser]

Couldn’t see it w my eyes man😭

I compared it toooooo let me show you

You’ll see a chain of stars like this

And you can also see the star that’s nestled in the galaxies, so aim for that, and align using that star and you will get great results

[smoky scaffold]

oo

ok I’ll try it next time I can

did u start at the Chertan star in leo?

[tulip geyser]

You can, I just got very good at lining it up and comparing what shapes I see to an app

[dark ridge]

Phone edit only

Not bad

[tulip geyser]

How do you guys go about so many exposures

The realignment function in AstroShader doesn’t seem to work properly for me, and I get odd artifacts

[dark ridge]

Thats not my image

Thats @smoky scaffold image

I tried astro shader some days ago bortle 9

Original vs edited

[opaque tundra]

Woaaah is that a hint of Mw in b9

[dark ridge]

Yes

[opaque tundra]

That’s dope b

What settings did you use

[dark ridge]

I dont remember

[elder birch]

The name of the image has the settings listed (also in the exif data too)

[dark ridge]

Oh

[elder birch]

Oh weird… Is that original or edited one?

Should be something like that

[zealous edge]

What scope did you use to get the Leo triplet? That's bonkers

[tulip geyser]

80mm ap 600mm fl w/ a 25mm lens. 150 1 second exposures.

Couldn’t even see it in the lens, just used stars relative to it

[clear hawk]

hi friends, any recommendations on photo stacking programs for beginners? as well as some tips how to use / take good photos for it? thank you ♥️♥️

[clear hawk]

I'm also doing photos untracked on a dob if that helps :)

[smoky scaffold]

leo triplet 1000x1s

I put the cap on for about 30 subs to mimic dark frames

not sure what it did though

@tulip geyser here’s my go at it

[tulip geyser]

How do you retract so well… my mount is very jank so no proper tracking

Is it an EQ mount?

[tulip geyser]

There are complete apps for that thing like AstroShader for IOS

@smoky scaffold ^

[clear hawk]

thanks! I'm on android so I'll have a look at my options :)

[smoky scaffold]

yes

any idea what those streaks are near the star

I know that the big one is probably glare from outside light but idk what the other small ones could be

[floral marlin]

does anyone know some good relatively bright targets suitable for my 6.5° oculars? there aren't that many big bright stuff I could find for this season except the cone nebula. from what I could find online it's mostly galaxy season but if there's some chance for me to do something as it's been cloudy the entire winter and now Orion and Andromeda are below the horizon

[dark ridge]

Edited

[gusty zodiac]

dk much about how binoculars work but you could see the Beehive cluster (M44), Coma star cluster (Mel 111 or Cr 256), Bode's Galaxy (M81), M47, etc. Some bright globular clusters are also avalable (M3, M13, M92) but I don't know if they can be seen through binoculars.

Alternativley, you can wake up in the morning to view summer targets instead like Lagoon and Trifid nebula, and a lot of bright star clusters

[floral marlin]

lagoon and trifid should be decent my area being bortle 2 also helps a lot

thanks

[ancient rampart]

Carina and other nearby nebulas are quite bright too, maybe those?

[floral marlin]

I'm in eastern Europe so I have no chance at all to see that

unfortunately

[ancient rampart]

Damn

Yeah then maybe some star clusters

Do you have an astronomy app on your phone, like stellarium or others?

[floral marlin]

yup

[ancient rampart]

You might be able to sort by object type and magnitude

Then you can find bright enough objects

[floral marlin]

oh really? I didn't know you could do that

I'll give it a try thank you

[ancient rampart]

Yep, found that out last week

Youre welcome

[gusty zodiac]

for nebulas, you could also try seeing the Eagle nebula (M16), Swan nebula (M17), the Rho Ophiuci cloud complex, North American and Pelican Nebula (C20), the Veil Nebulas (C33 and C34), the Crescent Nebula (C27), the Blue horsehead nebula among others

but I don't know how bright those are so take this with a grain of salt

[floral marlin]

m16 looks ok and relatively bright (6.0) but ill probably go with c20 as its the brightest at 4

also bigger

[cobalt brook]

is there a suggestion for phones to photograph or video the solar eclipse? Equipment is in my bio, I just cant decide if i should set up to video, or photograph it? or timelaps or something?

I also would like to know if you just use the base camera for this as its not galaxys or whatever?

[zealous scaffold]

Personally I'd record since it's a mix of lunar and sol, which would also allow you to capture the whole thing, make sure you have a solar filter over your telescope. Definitely get your scope pointed at the sun like 30 mins before so you don't have to get stressed over whether or not it's framed well or your properly tracking the object. I'm assuming you have a solar filter, if you don't do not point your scope at the sun lol. I would experiment with camera settings and stuff way before hand then write down what makes the image look best so you have a satisfying result by the end of it.

I'll also say don't 100% take my word for it and go ask this in #🤓-ask-a-nerd

[cobalt brook]

@zealous scaffold I have a solar filter, i dont have a telescope that tracks though, it would all be manual, i think ill probably set up my phone to video the event and sit with my wife and enjoy the event with our solar glasses, prob makes the most sense

[tulip geyser]

Likely from not having it realigned well enough

[tulip geyser]

You could attempt to find the bodes galaxy as well as the cigar galaxy. Orion Nebula is always good, and check out the Hercules globular cluster

[opaque tundra]

Looks like a yellow moon

[zealous scaffold]

I also got this which was a little more risky for my phone camera

[cobalt brook]

For the equipment I have, I am absolutely stoked I was able to capture this! Sure it isn't the clearest but hey!

[zealous scaffold]

That's sick, I wish I could've gotten my hand on a solar filter for it

[cobalt brook]

Literally incredible!

[zealous edge]

I think it's neat how the lens refraction is eclipse shaped, little green crescent towards the bottom of the image

my best capture from today

ALSO: don't take eclipse glasses and put them on the eyepiece end of a monocular or binoculars, as cool as the zoomed in view looks, it only looks cool until it burns a hole in the filters. If you wanna use a monocular or binoculars to view an eclipse (or the sun in general), use a solar filter on lens, and not the eyepiece.

[tulip coyote]

So I had a phone tripod laying around along with a telescope adapter for a phone along with this small telescope. So for kicks and giggles I tried it out on the Orion Nebula and I would say it’s not too bad for how cheap it all is.

Also the iPhone 7 is a example for my 14 plus

Also here is a picture of the eclipse with the same setup but with a solar eclipse glasses tapped to the front

[smoky scaffold]

600x1s dumbbell

I used a barlow lense so the stars are more trailed now but holy

this is so much better than my last dumbbell picture

[opaque tundra]

Wow how are managing to find the small objects

[smoky scaffold]

i live in bortle 4-5 which is kinda permitting but not really

fortunate compared to others

what I do is turn up my exposure a ton

dumbbell was also really high up that night

[opaque tundra]

Ah that makes everything easier

[smoky scaffold]

dumbbell is also relatively bright

i can see it visually with averted vision

[opaque tundra]

I’m in b8 trying to find a galaxy with a telescope and struggling

It’s annoying cuz I know it’s general location through binoculars

[smoky scaffold]

which one

[opaque tundra]

Heritage 130p

[smoky scaffold]

i mean galaxy

mb

[opaque tundra]

Oh lol, it’s the m51

[smoky scaffold]

oh that'll be tough

[opaque tundra]

Btw do you ever shoot wide field with astroshader?

[opaque tundra]

What about m101

[smoky scaffold]

a couple of times yea

not recently though, but i wanna get a picture of the mw core

soon

[opaque tundra]

Do you have those pics still?

[smoky scaffold]

yes give me a second

I really should start dithering

[opaque tundra]

Oh those are amazing

Do you remember what settings you used for that Mw one

[smoky scaffold]

the stats should be in the file name

[opaque tundra]

I only got this much

Idk what that weird circular artifact is

[smoky scaffold]

bro thats insane for b8

milky way in b8

[opaque tundra]

Yea I was shocked aswell, I took it just a little bit ago

Btw what phone do you have?

[smoky scaffold]

iphone 15 pro

its got a really nice camera

[opaque tundra]

Is 180 the number of exposures?

[opaque tundra]

Oh nicee, I’m two levels down with a 13 pro

[smoky scaffold]

yes

[opaque tundra]

Damn that must’ve taken ages to shoot then

What about the white balance?

[smoky scaffold]

I have spent countless nights in the freezing cold but I think it's worth it

[smoky scaffold]

mines at 3974K

but i dont adjust it at all

not sure what it does

[opaque tundra]

Ight I’ll try these settings out rq

[tulip geyser]

wooooow man must've had to use the stars to locate?

[smoky scaffold]

no I could actually see it pretty well

I had my camera at max iso 3s exposures to locate it but

it was there

[tulip geyser]

I saw inverted

isn't that located near ursa major?

I may be wrong

I'd have to wait until ~4 am to collect good images

I'm thinking Owl Nebula

[smoky scaffold]

sort of yes

its in between altair and vega

I use the sagitta constellation to find it

which I can barely see from my location but it helps

[smoky scaffold]

yea same I just woke up at that time and went to my backyard with my gear

[tulip geyser]

I may try the ring nebula & Owl nebula, higher in the sky and similar magnitudes

owl nebula may be difficult bc by midnight it's completely overhead ☠️

[smoky scaffold]

oo those are good

i had no idea owl nebula was in ursa major

it looks really easy to find

[tulip geyser]

yea it is I believe

[smoky scaffold]

same with ring

[tulip geyser]

fr, do u use telescopius for finding targets?

[smoky scaffold]

whats that

[tulip geyser]

broooo look it up rn

crazy good for finding targets, shows the path in the sky, magnitude, size all of it

[opaque tundra]

ight i've left my phone out to do a 100 exposure, lets see how it goes

i hope you werent manually re centering or anything like that

[tulip geyser]

we do that, but I can't bc of the limitations of my mount

@smoky scaffold what do u think

of telescopius

[smoky scaffold]

i think its really neat

wow it even shows next opposition

i should use this more often LOL

[tulip geyser]

Huge huge for finding cool targets

Never shot a planetary nebula, but I’m hoping soooooon

[smoky scaffold]

im setting up my account rn

this is actually so cool

makes a lot of things easier, like searching for the best current targets

[opaque tundra]

@smoky scaffold

All of a sudden my hate for b8-9 has lessened lol

Idk what to do with the editing afterwards tho

[smoky scaffold]

you should send the unedited one if you have it

[smoky scaffold]

bro good

you’re getting some crazy pics

that actually looks like some of my low b4 pics

[opaque tundra]

Thanks bro, appreciate the settings

If I do something like 300 exposure would that just mess up the stack ?

[smoky scaffold]

no probably not

[opaque tundra]

Were you gonna attempt to edit these?

[smoky scaffold]

oh sorry I didn’t get the ping

i will

oh god discord compression completely messed it up

I can’t edit those unless you send like a google drive version that’s uncompressed

[opaque tundra]

Oh ye I forgot that discord was gonna butcher them, I’ll send you it later

[tulip geyser]

@smoky scaffold how did u edit ur Milky Way photo

[smoky scaffold]

same way I usually edit tbh, brightness max and background extraction

but that might’ve been before background extraction, idk

also curves are very helpful, midtones and high midtones are high for my pictures

600x1s with barlow

I am very happy to pull more detail than last time

[zealous scaffold]

thats 600s int time?

[smoky scaffold]

yes

[zealous scaffold]

damn

thats whirlpool right?

[smoky scaffold]

yes

[zealous scaffold]

ive tried to shoot it before i can never find it lol

cant see it in night sky so i just gotta guess or try to use tracking

[smoky scaffold]

@tulip geyser @opaque tundra here’s how I find really dim objects

let me know if you don’t have access

[zealous scaffold]

thats wild

thanks for the tips

that'll be lots of help

[smoky scaffold]

I actually recorded that tn 😭

yeah no problem

[zealous scaffold]

lmfao thats wildd

[smoky scaffold]

that was the wrong video actually

[zealous scaffold]

lmfao

[smoky scaffold]

😭that was a meme for my friend

[smoky scaffold]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10zu0h_gOIKwBWrOvgiyVNVHYjz3VZwJG/view?usp=drivesdk

[tulip geyser]

I’m pretty good at finding distant objects

[smoky scaffold]

clearly since you found leo triplet

[zealous scaffold]

still processing rip

my eyesight is so bad, i cant even see pleiades without wearing glasses because it'll be such a blur it'll blend with the sky

[smoky scaffold]

dang that’s tragic

[zealous scaffold]

and pleiades is super easy to see in b6

its a struggle putting glasses on to look at the sky and through the finder scope then taking them off again to look through the eyepiece only to realize you need to look through the finder scope again

[smoky scaffold]

you need large eye relief eyepieces then

[zealous scaffold]

sounds expensive ill get contacts instead

my eyes are only so bad because i stared at the eclipse i have a lazy eye

[gusty zodiac]

imo its harder than M51 because there isn't a relativley bright star (Mag. < 8) next to it

M81 is prob the easiest due to how bright it is, but I'm not fully sure if it would be visible in a B8-9 area

[clear hawk]

first time ever doing image stacking

[spice gale]

very nice, what equipment?

[clear hawk]

8" Celestron Dob
Oppo Reno Z
Bortle 7-8

[spice gale]

it is, i can see m81 and m82 trough a 6"dob flextube in a b7 place

[spice gale]

nice

how many frames?

[clear hawk]

I discovered my ISO was a bit too low so I'm trying again tomorrow night now that I know what I'm doing

[clear hawk]

400 give or take

1/2 second exposures cause I'm untracked

[spice gale]

[clear hawk]

be honest is that as good as I'm going to get for Orion nebula with such high light pollution

[spice gale]

no, you can clearly get much better, trust me, you just need good conditions, perfect focus and more frames

[clear hawk]

🫡

on it boss

[spice gale]

good luck

today I have the clearest skies ever this year

no moon too

probably gonna try some galaxies

just look at ask_a_bot

it's also like 15 C outside at 10pm, so perfect

bro I really need 2 phones, one for astrophotography and one for timelapses, maybe I'll buy the s23 ultra this summer for ap and the phone that I have rn for star timelapses

[clear hawk]

aaah you're so lucky it's been nothing but cloudy since I got my telescope

I can't wait for winter it'll be so much clearer

Ive heard the s23 ultra is super good too

currently saving up to get a new phone purely for the better camera lol

[spice gale]

same

[clear hawk]

what phone do you currently use?

[spice gale]

a52s

samsung

i have had it for 4 years now, and something in the phone broke and the wifi and bluetooth buttons don't work, so I can't sell it

[clear hawk]

oof that sucks

do you have any photos you've done using it?

I'm interested to see the difference between our cameras

i just looked up your back camera will be 64MP and mine is 48

I have no idea what that means but 🤷

[spice gale]

like how many megapixels

[spice gale]

yes, but with what

[clear hawk]

like any astrophotography with your current phone

[spice gale]

yes, but it's gonna be hard to compare bc of conditions, bortle and because I edited them

[clear hawk]

ok fair enough lol

[spice gale]

bu I'll show you

[shy snow]

Ive done it without a filter

During mornings and evenings when its dimmer

[opaque tundra]

Thanks for the vid, I think my issue is that my fov with my Astro cam and scope is so small that I can barely star hop anywhere

[zealous edge]

I've done sun images too without a solar filter, but this was only possible for me because there was a lot of smog overhead from a wildfire in Canada, the particles created a perfect natural solar filter. The sun looked orange and dim with the naked eye, almost like you were looking at it through eclipse glasses.

[zealous edge]

Also that's a beautiful photo

[iron bear]

Reprocessing of widefield Milky Way that I made in july

📷Xiaomi 12, fixed tripod.
Sky Stacked in Pixinsight and Foreground in Photoshop. Around 25 minutes of total exposure
📌 Brazil, Minas gerais. Bortle 4

[opaque tundra]

omg thats insane

how is a phone camera getting that red stuff?

[iron bear]

I believe that the mi12 can catch a little more than normal due to not having such a restrictive filter. My unprocessed stars are actually a bit pink. This means that the IR passes a lot. As H-alpha is in the 650nm range, I believe that a large part of the emission can pass through without major problems

My mouse's infrared reader... The filter I used in the test is Ir-uvcut

[opaque tundra]

Oh interesting, very cool for a phone camera

[spring viper]

22min

[zealous edge]

ooh not bad, what's your equipment?

[spring viper]

130PDS, eq3-2 OnStep, Redmi note 7, eyepiece 2" SW LET 28mm

[tulip geyser]

Boutta get some deep sky objects fs

[edgy talon]

Why

You just wasted like 20 bucks dude

[tulip geyser]

Bruh?

Why

[edgy talon]

Those barlows are very low quality

How much did you pay?

[tulip geyser]

I figured since it was 99c 😂

[edgy talon]

99 cents?

[tulip geyser]

My setup is budget ash

[edgy talon]

That was a dollar?

[tulip geyser]

Ya on aliexpress

[edgy talon]

If it’s a dollar then you didn’t waste any

Yeah your good then

[tulip geyser]

lol ikr

[edgy talon]

It’s a free t-ring when you get an astronomy camera

Just hollow out the elements and thread her on

[tulip geyser]

Oh word

[edgy talon]

Yeah it looks m42 threaded

[zealous scaffold]

i got a wild deal on my 4se, they gave me the 4se, like 9 plossl eyepieces, 8 filters, and a bunch of astronomy books for $300 and an old laptop

then i upgraded to a 6se

kept the rest of the stuff tryna sell the 4se tho

amazing deal though

[edgy talon]

Hop on cloudy nights

[tulip geyser]

How’s the 4se

[zealous scaffold]

id get a 6se or 8se not the 4se

4se is nice for planetary but its kinda hard to do DSO with it

[tulip geyser]

Word word

[zealous scaffold]

and thats why i bought a 6se lmfao

[tulip geyser]

There’s an issue with something in my telescope, so that I have really bad chromatic aberration for near objects

[zealous scaffold]

its not your eyepiece is it?

[tulip geyser]

I forgot what the name of it is, but I don’t have the corrective lens in my telescope, is it Apochromatic I think?

It could be, I don’t know how I would figure that though

[zealous scaffold]

i have no clue lol, im just a nerd because i posted a pretty picture i took

[tulip geyser]

Lol I’m just trying to catalog as many cool pictures as I can take, mainly deep sky objects

[zealous scaffold]

i really wanna do a little astrophotography journal thing where i draw objects i take pictures of and constellations and stuff

[tulip geyser]

That’d be cool

[zealous scaffold]

Yessir

I just can't draw sooo

[spring viper]

I use celestron omni 2X Barlow

Very decent lens

I can get 1.5 magnification or infinite magnification using extensions

[smoky scaffold]

infinite magnification 🤯

[clear hawk]

Hello! does anyone know what ISO I should be shooting at if I'm in heavy light polluted areas

I shot this at 1000 ISO and the values on the histogram were incredibly low so I assumed I didn't have my ISO high enough

[zealous scaffold]

i normally do 1600 ISO for orion

[clear hawk]

is there a general rule to follow ? or will it just be trial and error

[zealous scaffold]

give that a shot and see how it goes

[clear hawk]

thanks!

[zealous scaffold]

yep no problem

[clear hawk]

do you use 1600 for long exposures ?

[zealous scaffold]

i use an app called deep sky camera and i shoot lights at about 3-5 seconds each with 1600 ISO when it comes to orion nebula

[clear hawk]

i plan on doing around 5-10 minutes tonight if the weather allows me

oh ok thanks

I use deep sky too

do you not get drift when doing 3-5 seconds?

or are you tracked

[zealous scaffold]

i have a goto alt-az

[clear hawk]

ah ok makes sense

cries in untracked dob

[zealous scaffold]

lol

[clear hawk]

[zealous scaffold]

theres a calculator somewhere to see how long you can shoot for untracked without any drift

[clear hawk]

that would be a life saver

[zealous scaffold]

id ask in #🤓-ask-a-nerd, someone there prob knows

[clear hawk]

im currently doing 1/2 second shots

cause I don't wanna sit outside for an hour only to find out later I have bad tracking

[zealous scaffold]

lol

i feel that i shot for like an hour the other night and only 75 of my 300 images were good because orion nebula went below my house

[clear hawk]

stop that so tragic

I'm lucky enough to live in AUS but unfortunately where I live Orion drifts towards the city

so I have to start shooting early in the night

[zealous scaffold]

yeah not much i can do since sun doesnt even set until like 8:30 pm here

[clear hawk]

even later since you're coming into Summer now too

[zealous scaffold]

yeppers

[shy snow]

Looking at it now, theres no way i can do this quality ever again

It was SHOT IN JPEG

NO processing

Through a PHONE

i used all my life's luck into that pic

[spice gale]

with a filter, I supose

[shy snow]

The clouds, tower, exposure, timing, all just perfect

[shy snow]

Sunrise without filter

[spice gale]

bro just how?

what camera?

[shy snow]

Remember this was shot in jpeg

[shy snow]

Phone? What else?

[spice gale]

no, I mean what phone

like what brand

looks like some sort of samsung to me

[shy snow]

Not a samsung

I used a telescope

Powerseeker 60az

dont shoot me please i beg you

[opaque tundra]

you used a telescope on the sun without a filter

[spice gale]

what, didn't the telescope burn?

[shy snow]

Sunrise man, sunrise, its dim

[spice gale]

still

[shy snow]

noP

Wait lemme pull up the exif

[spice gale]

h*ll nah, I ain't risking

[smoky scaffold]

bro said try it 💀

are u trying to make people blind

[spice peak]

Me who used the fog to photograph the sun 2 years ago

[smoky scaffold]

it works sometimes but is 100% something you should always avoid doing with a telescope

[clear hawk]

don't listen to big media

always look at the sun through your telescope /j

[edgy talon]

You deserve any camera damage if you don’t use a filter

@sly bloom

[smoky scaffold]

😭😭

it’s perfect

[clear hawk]

I have a question

[smoky scaffold]

i have an answer

[clear hawk]

is 22.9MB a normal size for a RAW

[smoky scaffold]

ys

[clear hawk]

this is me second time taking any sort of stacked photo and it's taking hours to upload my files to one drive

time for a phone upgrade I think

[smoky scaffold]

22mb is just the start man

[clear hawk]

I think I might throw up because of this information

[smoky scaffold]

does it actually take that long to upload

[clear hawk]

I'm running on an OPPO like an old one

yeah

[smoky scaffold]

what phone u have?

[clear hawk]

I'm also on Australian internet so upload speeds are super bad

[smoky scaffold]

[clear hawk]

current upload speed is 8Mbps

straight up not having a good time rn

I have 17GB of data to upload and I have to do it in batches 😭

it has no taken about 50 minutes to upload 100 RAWS

[sly bloom]

@shy snow please never tell anybody to use methods of observing the sun that don't use solar film or safe projection/ other approved method.

[spring viper]

Arcturus

[shy snow]

I didnt get any

[shy snow]

K man sorry

[opaque tundra]

This looks like the perfect sun to look at with your telescope

[smoky scaffold]

no

never do that

telescopes magnify

[opaque tundra]

[zealous edge]

Yeah man I would not recommend looking at the sun without a solar filter, no matter what time of day it is.

Unless it's during the complete totality of a solar eclipse, or the sun is so obscured by a thick layer of smog to the point that it appears a dim red-orange to the naked eye, it ain't safe

[terse smelt]

dont add an unless, a small solar filter is like 40$, 10 inch dob its like 170$

[tulip geyser]

Wish i had a telescope capable of viewing the larger stars’ surfaces. Betelgeuse’s is just crazy to think about

What are the boys up to

[zealous edge]

It would certainly take a titanic sized telescope to see surface details in even the closest and largest stars, excluding the sun of course. But yeah, it would be pretty cool.

To date, this is the most detailed image Astronomy has ever produced of a star other than our sun

[tulip geyser]

Ever see the VLT photos? I’d want something like that but just a liiiiitle better

Yup that’s the one lmao. I know of pi1 gruis betelgeuse aaaand one more I forgot

[zealous edge]

Yeah, this one is of Arcturus.

[tulip geyser]

That’s the one

[zealous edge]

And here's Betelgeuse

[tulip geyser]

It’s crazy how the surface of these are theorized to move

[zealous edge]

Well, perhaps not crazy. That's just how stars of particularly large sizes are, they shimmy around a lot. Their size becomes so large, and their density becomes so much less than something like our sun's, that their gravitational influence has less effect on their mass, causing them to be less than perfectly spherical shaped.

[tulip geyser]

Hype for the Nova, hopefully scientists are right about it

Neutron stars>>

[zealous edge]

if you have two stars with the same mass, but one is significantly less dense than the other, the less dense one will expand to a larger diameter, and therefore have less gravitational control over what it's mass is doing because there's more 3D space to account for.

[tulip geyser]

Right, there’s a lot of convection currents which pull a lot of force and lead to high momentum bubbles with little gravitational force

Less stable surface, more violent

Can’t even fathom the magnetic fields

[zealous edge]

Honestly? I have mixed feelings about Betelgeuse going supernova.

On the one hand, yeah it'd be pretty neat to see a star go supernova in our lifetime, certainly not something every generation gets to see.

But on the other hand, I don't want to see Betelgeuse go supernova in my lifetime. It's my favorite star other than our sun, it makes up an important part of the Orion constellation, it has a neat name, and it's kinda been here with mankind for all its existence.

The Orion constellation has always had it, our night sky has always had it, astronomy images and astrophotography photos have always captured it, it's an integral part of our night sky. It would be weird, one day, to look up at the night sky, and see the Orion constellation missing a star. A little sad, almost. Like a friend who after all this time, has to go. I would miss seeing it, and it's not like the neutron star or pulsar it becomes would be visible to the naked eye either, so there won't even be a pinpoint left either. Only visible with high tech equipment.

Sure it may be interesting, to study the formation of a neutron star as it happens in real time (well, 400 years elapsed time since its 400ly away from us), and I'm sure the light show will be spectacular. But the night sky wouldn't feel the same without it.

[zealous edge]

Yeah they'd be super unstable I bet, I imagine stars like Betelgeuse or UY Scuti or Stephenson 2-18 probably eject tons more matter than our sun does on a daily basis.

[tulip geyser]

it certainly would mark new skies; it would be as bright as the moon, and having a nebula so magnificent at such a close distance, something kids will know and those kids' kids. itll be a part of history and a happy goodbye to a stellar friend

[zealous edge]

True, true. That's hoping though, that the supernova creates a visually spectacular nebula, hopefully just as visible as the Orion Nebula or Eagle Nebula. I'd hope for something reminiscent of the Crab Nebula, but obviously much closer to us, and therefore potentially larger and brighter in our skies. Of course it would take decades for the nebula to expand and shape itself out to the point that we can make out details, but still.

It would certainly make the Orion molecular cloud complex that much more of an insane area in our night sky, there's already so much stuff happening there.

[tulip geyser]

I do agree about the type of nebula

[patent zodiac]

Get ready for 20gb of data

[clear hawk]

currently working with about 20gb 😭 the struggles of living in Bortle 9

[patent zodiac]

Fr, i imaged orion for about 40 minutes and there goes 15gb and my phone is screaming at me "you have 5gb of free storage"

[clear hawk]

I had to clear out my phone so many times last night lol. definitely need an upgrade

[spring viper]

M13

[clear hawk]

should I take dark and bias frames every single time I shoot? like can you stack calibration frames? I'm capturing over a couple of nights :)

[tough nest]

What scope and what bortle?
Love the pic btw my favorite glob

[spring viper]

SW 130pds, bortle 7-8

[ancient rampart]

Id say yes, each day has specific conditions, but i dont know to what extent they affect calibration frames

Id take them just to be sure

[ancient rampart]

How many lights did you take for the galaxy?

Which galaxy is it btw?

[patent zodiac]

Its m51

[ancient rampart]

Thanks

[clear hawk]

thanks! just done shooting. untracked photography is so tedious

me when 15 minutes of exposure takes an hour

[ancient rampart]

15 in in bortle 7? Nice, how many s for each light?

[ancient rampart]

Atleast you got a scope, i do it with a dslr and old tripod

[clear hawk]

doing 1/2 seconds to be sure there was no drift :)

[clear hawk]

I'm so grateful to have one

I'm current saving up for a new phone with a better camera + a DSLR

[ancient rampart]

Nice

You got an adaptor for the scope?

[clear hawk]

yeah I do, it's not great though. I think it's made for eyepieces above the size I have so it sits a little crooked

I throw my jumper over it to block the light that gets in the sides lol

now to very slowly and tediously upload all my data from tonight to one drive

(my charger port is a little scratched up and I unfortunately can't transfer data straight from my phone to my PC)

[ancient rampart]

Oof

My condolences 💀

[spring viper]

One frame, 32s iso 1600. This is m51

100x magnification

[ancient rampart]

Tracked?

[smoky scaffold]

must be if he got 32s exposures

[edgy talon]

Crop and your stretch will be better

[smoky scaffold]

perfect night

what should I shoot

imma do another wide field since milky is higher now

[ocean cape]

Does this look alright for a iPhone 11 and a 12inch donsonian telescope?

[smoky scaffold]

yes

jesus

[terse smelt]

lots of detail but god thats crunchy

[ocean cape]

Veryyy crunchy

[terse smelt]

i mean i say that when my orion processes have worse colours lol

[clear hawk]

i accidentally clicked on this server and at first glance i thought this was an oil spill

rainbow uuh nebula

[magic trout]

how did you even find them in bortle 7-8?

[spring viper]

Goto

[magic trout]

okay makes sense

[spice gale]

who needs go to when you have satellites

[opaque tundra]

Ayoo, what bortle are you in

[elder birch]

Nice!
I reckon you could get it looking cleaner using background extraction and using curves/levels to pull the detail out without the noise

[ocean cape]

Bortle 8😐

[ocean cape]

Thanks for the advice:)

[opaque tundra]

wow how did you get that from B8

[ocean cape]

Pure luck:0 but seriously I’m not sure.

[opaque tundra]

what settings did you use

cuz this was all i managed with a phone

[ocean cape]

I used about 2 second exposure and ISO of around 1600. I also use AstroShader to stack a little bit. Typically around 20 to 30 stacks. I hope this helps:)

[opaque tundra]

what phone?

[ocean cape]

iPhone 11

[opaque tundra]

oof

[opaque tundra]

i got this with the 13 pro

[ocean cape]

What telescope did you use?

[opaque tundra]

heritage 130p

[ocean cape]

I think the telescope is the biggest difference. 5inch and a 12inch is a bit of a size difference. So I think the image you took is really good especially with the telescope you used😄

[smoky scaffold]

are you tracked

[edgy talon]

This hurts

You need a 224

[opaque tundra]

whats a 224?

[edgy talon]

Imx224 is a small planetary or guiding sensor

[zealous scaffold]

should i shoot tonight

havent gone out in a while to shoot

[ocean cape]

Sort of. It has GOTO but it depends on the object I look at. Say I looked at a object in the west it wouldn’t track very well but if I looked at a object in the north it tracks fine but in short yes I track.

[gusty zodiac]

yes

if its clear

[edgy talon]

Alt az mount?

[zealous scaffold]

3% cloud cover!

[ocean cape]

Yup

[edgy talon]

Ur cooked but yeah that’s how it goes

North objects move less

More southbound you get in the sky the less they move

More northbound same thing

[zealous scaffold]

this is why i like orion

this is why i hate andromeda galaxy

[edgy talon]

Orion zips across the sky faster than andromeda

[zealous scaffold]

this is why i like whirlpool!

[zealous scaffold]

yeah but it tracks really well

compared to andromeda

[edgy talon]

Your mount is bipolar then

[zealous scaffold]

or maybe its me lol

[edgy talon]

You are getting better results with andromeda, it’s just it’s big

M42 or whatever is small

[zealous scaffold]

i havent been able to shoot a single galaxy but ive shot good orions a million times

[edgy talon]

It’s galaxy season rn

Go pop m87

[zealous scaffold]

ooh i was planning on shooting in virgo at some point, i just like north and south because i have more view of the horizon

east and west have houses in the way

fortunately virgo does move upwards

wait m87 is where the black hole was shot?

[edgy talon]

Yeah

[gusty zodiac]

Orion is literally dead center at the Zenith tf u mean 💀 (Declination axis roughly from +10 to -10)

[zealous scaffold]

idk its southwestern sky thats about all i know

i just shoot it a lot

[gusty zodiac]

prob cuz how bright it is, so a longer exposure isn't rly needed

(assuming you mean shooting M42 a lot)

[zealous scaffold]

yeah orion nebula

ir flash bottom left, i have fixed that

had to tape my camera up with like 2 layers of electrical tape to cover up the Laser Detect Auto Focus

[gusty zodiac]

lmao

either way thats a nice picture

[zealous scaffold]

i have tried so many way to remove the IR flash from it but it just ruins the picture, it stinks lol

and now it gets dark so late orion is already relatively low in the sky by the time i can actually shoot it, so it goes below my house

the other night i shot 200 5s lights and only 73 of them were taken before it went below my house

[gusty zodiac]

uhuh

[gusty zodiac]

btw you could try the Ursa Major galaxies (M81 and M82, M101, M51 etc)

they're fairly northbound and are fairly bright (at least in galaxy terms)

you can see M81 naked eye too so yea

[zealous scaffold]

ive tried to shoot m51 so many times i can just rarely find it

ive found it only once and then i had to go back inside because it was blistering cold

[opaque tundra]

woah what is this taken with, and what scope

[zealous scaffold]

Celestron Nexstar 6se and a google pixel 6 pro

[gusty zodiac]

try Bode's galaxy (M81)

[opaque tundra]

is that tracked jupie?

[zealous scaffold]

yeah nexstar 6se is a goto with alt-az

[gusty zodiac]

its one of the brightest galaxies, visible even through my small refractor in a light-polluted area, and now is the perfect time to shoot it

[opaque tundra]

damn how is ur phone camera so nice

the red m42 looks so nice

[zealous scaffold]

easy to see in a b6? my eyesight is bad so despite there being a lot of stars that are visible i cant actually see them with my eyes without glasses lol

[gusty zodiac]

yes

def

[zealous scaffold]

pixel phones are made for astrophotography thats one of their big selling points

[gusty zodiac]

at least for me, live in a B5 area I think

[opaque tundra]

ah nice didnt know that

[gusty zodiac]

or B6 dont know

[zealous scaffold]

check light pollution map

[smoky scaffold]

xiaomi

[opaque tundra]

i've tried orion in b3 with a 13pro and it was super underwhelming '

unfortuenatly i didnt have the right settings back then

[zealous scaffold]

yeah xiaomi are good ive just heard some people are worried about getting one since its not manufactured by an american company

[gusty zodiac]

it says B4, which is definitley not the case

[zealous scaffold]

its according to 2015 statistics so its probably gone a bortle up

[gusty zodiac]

true

but anyway yea, try doing M81. bit of an easier target

[zealous scaffold]

ill give it a shot, it is a bit of a neck breaker though

[zealous scaffold]

i hve very limited knowledge on galaxies, what would you say a recommended ISO is? i can figure out exposure time on my own

[gusty zodiac]

I don't have a camera unfortunatley so I have no clue either

[zealous scaffold]

i know for m31 recommended is between 800 and 1600

[gusty zodiac]

I mean, I have a phone, but the max exposure time it has is only 0.6s 💀

[zealous scaffold]

i use deep sky camera which gives me up to 14 seconds

[gusty zodiac]

I tried that but it didn't work

[zealous scaffold]

oof

[gusty zodiac]

I just use Lightroom cuz it gives me more ISO

I only share my pics with my family and stuff cuz they suck lmao

[zealous scaffold]

lol

[gusty zodiac]

Here's the Hercules cluster for reference 😭

[zealous scaffold]

ooof

my beehive cluster isnt very good either

[gusty zodiac]

ima be honest,my open cluseter pics are the only pics of DSOs that I actually like (M6/Butterfly cluster)

[gusty zodiac]

k gtg now

[zealous scaffold]

tryna figure out what the weird black dot on the right is

[smoky scaffold]

damn bro

is that actually what that looks like through video

or is that multiple pictures

[zealous scaffold]

google pixel 6 has an astrophotography mode and it basically takes images and stacks them live for 4 minutes, it creates a video out of all the images when it starts letting in more light or sharpening it etc

its actually super useful for seeing whether or not an object is being tracked consistently because it shows you how much it moves in the video

[clear hawk]

great to know

Ive been looking into a new phone