Phone Astrophotography

[neon crypt]

So just staying in wide angle or 1x magnification

[timber vector]

oh okay yeah

do i just lower the exposure and put it in night mode

[neon crypt]

I'm not sure, I've never owned an iPhone

[timber vector]

i got these doing that not long ago

[edgy talon]

That's an example

[elder birch]

Ah yes I need to update the docs a bit… But basically it makes the phone like a DSLR in manual with a control over the number of images to stack.

“Focus” is to manually set the focus… Autofocus usually doesn’t work for astro images
“Number of exposures” is how many images will be aligned and stacked.
“Exposure time…” is shutter speed.
“ISO” is just camera ISO.

Example settings for iPhone13 widefield Milky Way shot would be: 50 exposures, exposure time 10s, ISO 3000.
If using with a scope exposure time will depend on whether you are tracked/untracked. e.g. 0.5seconds for my main setup untracked.

Final point would be zoom (by pinching) to crop out trees, eyepiece circle, etc as this might throw off the alignment. I tend to take a single test shot then up the number of exposures

[timber vector]

anything on the bottom half of the settinsg such as white balance exposure gain and pixel binning also alignment function

not soo sure what most of these words mean in this sense haha

[elder birch]

You can leave them all at the default settings.
If there’s an issue with alignment, white balance, brightness etc they can be adjusted

[timber vector]

okay i will try it tonight hopefully its clear thanks for the help

[runic kelp]

Just downloaded and looks sick so far! I’ll try it out next time I get out the scope 🤙

[cobalt brook]

Only iPhone?

[smoky scaffold]

yes

only for iphone currently

@elder birch what do the the alignment function and pixel binning do in advanced settings?

[timber vector]

i’ve decided i’m not going out tonight just went to turn off the garden lights and there was 18 BIG spiders not 2 meters away from my hammock i’m not doing that

[timber vector]

if i was to do 50 exposures for 10s exposure time would that be 8 and a half mins

[smoky scaffold]

50sx10=500s=8m 20s so yes

[timber vector]

after editing i got this it’s just my first go i didn’t set it up on a tripod just layed it down in a hammock but a really cool app i’ve never seen them like this through my phone next time i’ll try and do it more proper

it looks much better on my phone before sending it through discord for some reason

much much cooler on my side

can see colours much better

[smoky scaffold]

discord compresses files

[timber vector]

yeah

[elder birch]

Haha yes, more of a tripod situation

[elder birch]

Alignment function increases the accuracy but the trade off is slightly longer processing.

Pixel binning adds 4 pixels together to brighten the image but reduces the resolution by 1/4. Mainly useful for dim targets especially if shooting untracked

[elder birch]

Sorry yes just at the minute. Eventually planning and android version

[timber vector]

my image looks nice but the focus was off i had it on ,68 but couldnt check cos i had the phone face down and it was too tedious to do it before i start the image due to the low fps haha waht focus should i have considering it was a bit off

[elder birch]

I usually set it first by setting exposure to 0.1s and ISO near the max then zoom in on a big star. After this set the other settings. The app remembers focus between shots.

Focus is a bit fiddly to be honest, I’m planning to make an autofocus later this year (this iPhone PDAF one doesn’t work well for astro images)

[timber vector]

nice i love to hear that you plan on making it better and better it’s the best app i have found so far i’ve never been able to catch a good photo of the moon due to not having enough zoom you think i could catch one tonight with the app ? seeing as it has better zoom

[elder birch]

Without a scope or lens it’s still not great as the optical zoom is the limiting factor

[iron bear]

Reprocessing my last M-16 made last year.
.
📋 Exif:
🔭 Toya 114/900, eyepiece 20mm 68° svbony. Eq3 with onstep
📷 Xiaomi Mi9T (IMX 586)
⚙ 3384x12s ISO 1600
📌 São Paulo, Brazil. Bortle 9

[chilly vessel]

DAMN BRO

[amber dome]

Wooow

[chilly vessel]

How do you get such long exposures without getting pure bright light stuff?

[patent zodiac]

Filters or calibration frames maybe

[chilly vessel]

hm

[patent zodiac]

Oh, cool

[fickle tree]

Least shit moon pic i have

[fiery rover]

You have to adjust your focus @fickle tree

You have to adjust it to manual

You probably currently have it on infinity

Or if you hold your phone above the eyepiece then you should better buy a cheap phone adapter

You can probably find a pretty cheap one...I bought one from TEMU and it does that job

I was able to shoot this photo with my phone...108MP, ULTRA HD

[fickle tree]

Keep in mind thats literally 1 shot, its not processed nor even stacked

And where i live there is a ton of light pollution

But yeah i had to focus better the scope

[iron bear]

12s is not long exposure... Long exposure is 120s, 180s, 300s...

And I use CLS

[fiery rover]

Mine neither...what telescope do you use ? I use a Heritage 130p

[fiery rover]

Me too 😂

I am bortle 8

[fiery rover]

You may also have to better focus your phone camera...do you have an android ?? If so, you probably have pro mode in the native camera app of your phone...go to F (or focus) and change the value to M (or Manual)

Also mind changing the ratio

Do you see the yellow one saying 3:4 ??? You can change that

This is a photo of mine using 9:16...it's not good

You have to find YOUR sweet spot...

[fickle tree]

i have a skywatcher 130/900 with an eq1 mount 😭 💀

[fiery rover]

They are pretty much the same

I was one click before buying your scope

But the guys in the server prevented me ...and I'm so glad I did so

[fickle tree]

why?

[fiery rover]

It has a spherical mirror

[fickle tree]

yeah also your is a dobson

i see why its better

[fiery rover]

Not necessarily...but for this budget...it's super stable and easy to use...I assume you probably have a hard time with the eq mount 😕

[chilly vessel]

I can't do like 10 seconds 1600 iso without pure bright filterless
but alright

[fickle tree]

of course i do

its also a pain in the ass to carry around

[fiery rover]

Oh yes that is something too

Apart from this...still...it's a very decent Telescope

So if you try your best you can probably get a very good photo out of it

Experiment

[fickle tree]

if i have to switch i dont want to downgrade, i would probably get a dobson of the same quality. probably like yours

[fiery rover]

If your budget is a bit higher you could probably buy a better version of my Telescope...150p

Which is even better

[fickle tree]

yeah but i want to play around with my current one before changing, i dont want to get a telescope and use it like once in a blue moon

[fiery rover]

The only "major problem with deez dobs is that they have a helical focuser which doesn't support weight and they are a bit unreliable

[fiery rover]

I don't think you have to change...at least for me...unless you have the telescope for some time now and you want to get something better...

[fickle tree]

yeah thats what im saying

my telescope is good rn, no need to change it

[fiery rover]

It's not that bad of a scope whatsoever...but you definitely know that better than me

@fickle tree I hope you achieve your goal! Astrophotography is a pain in the ass...but once you get to know it.. it's amazing

You need to experiment

[fickle tree]

thanks! i just started and im ready to learn

[fiery rover]

That's the spirit of a nerd! 😂😂😂

[fickle tree]

🤣

[fiery rover]

This is a video of Jupiter I captured...it took me 1 hour experimenting with the settings

[fickle tree]

do dobsons have a polar aligment? because if they do you can take 1 minute footages and process them

[chilly vessel]

It looks great ngl
I'll try it when I get home

[fiery rover]

It's pretty cool...but I made a grave mistake...I shot it in 4k30fps ...plz don't make that mistake too...choose 1080p 60fps...it's much much better

[chilly vessel]

it's fine

i shot this at 8K 24 fps

[fiery rover]

Now it looks fine...but when stacking...you will need ages

[chilly vessel]

fair

[fiery rover]

That's the reason you don't shoot 8k, 4k and stuff

[chilly vessel]

so it's shit?

wow dude

[iron bear]

My telescope is f8 too. And I only take pictures at the zenith

[chilly vessel]

that makes sense cool

[fiery rover]

That's what Jupiter looked like too 😂😂

You have to choose 1080p

[chilly vessel]

better than a blob

[fiery rover]

Yeah...but the problem with your photo is that there are no colours

[iron bear]

m16 without DBE

[chilly vessel]

sheesh

[chilly vessel]

I processed it in black and white
og video had colour

[fiery rover]

Aaaah

Ok

But again...choose the highest FPS possible and 1080p

I learned this today

[chilly vessel]

cool

[fiery rover]

From a video

And...in order to shoot more frames, you can stop the video, track it and then when the entire object is visible start recording again

This way you can take videos of 3 minutes or even more

@chilly vessel https://youtu.be/MnvMdG-cyrg?feature=shared

This dude is amazing

[chilly vessel]

Yep

[fiery rover]

No they don't...

Unfortunately

[spring viper]

11 hours, wtf

[patent zodiac]

Just a quick exposure while wlaking my dogs
Redmi note 12 pro
30sec exposure
6400iso
Edited in lightroom

[vestal tinsel]

somehow with an Iphone 8 and 8" dob

[timber vector]

anyone know why my images are coming out really bright on my phone now that im taking them from a more direct angle i was taking photos straight up and it was fine but when i tried to prop it up and tilt it more towards an angle rather than right up it was really bright and not much was showing up do i need to lower or higher the iso? is it due to light pollution any advice os helpful

[edgy talon]

Exposure

Ss

Iso

Galre

Glare

Moonlight

[cobalt brook]

Never thought of this before actually but does it still work when manually focusing ?

I have the same issue as @timber vector Except it happens when pointing straight up too 😭

[cobalt brook]

Omg I never thought of this before either!

Ok but before I found this discord and I was using just night mode.... That was my photos .....

But it isn't 👌

It's 🚮

[fiery rover]

Naaaah the quality is good...it could be better but compared to my night mode it's much better

You should probably use the pro mode of your native camera app

Or the Pro Cam X Lite app

Which is also pretty good

[cobalt brook]

I now use expert raw

Which is pro mode on steroids

[fiery rover]

Is this an app?

[cobalt brook]

It's a Samsung built in app

[fiery rover]

Hmmm

I will download the apk

[cobalt brook]

It isn't downloadable

[fiery rover]

It is, if I manage to download the apk

😉

[cobalt brook]

This was using a 10 minute exposure time using expert raw in Australia in a bortle 1 (yes I was extremely jealous of their bortle level)

@fiery rover it's built into only ultra phones afaik

[fiery rover]

10 minute exposure???? How is this possible with no star trailing?

[fiery rover]

Yeah
... unfortunately I can't download it 😭😭😭

[fiery rover]

Do you have a telescope with a motor drive ??? This image is amazing

[cobalt brook]

I'm not entirely sure, one thing I noticed is that the photo freezes or something when it takes, I saw a plane fly directly over top yet it didn't show up on my screen

[cobalt brook]

No, I have a celestron omni az 102 but that photo was pure phone

[fiery rover]

My brain is not braining

[cobalt brook]

😂

[fiery rover]

What phone do you have?

[cobalt brook]

Note 20 ultra

[fiery rover]

How is this pure phone

[fiery rover]

Ok I'm completely freaked out

[cobalt brook]

I set it down on a bench, got it on 10 minute timer and a 10 second delay and pressed GO and then left it

[fiery rover]

This is what I get with my phone

[cobalt brook]

I believe this is pure phone

100x zoom is the trick I believe

[fiery rover]

Is this pure phone?

[fiery rover]

This is the best result I can get out of my phone itself...through my telescope it's pretty good

This is a video of Jupiter on a pretty bad day

With digital zoom

[timber vector]

what phone can zoom like that

[fiery rover]

Galaxy S20 Ultra

It's mindblowing

[cobalt brook]

Yes

[fiery rover]

😶😶😶😶😶😶

And then they say that iPhones have the best cameras

[cobalt brook]

This was thru my telescope (I don't have a powerful telescope like you guys 😭)

Showcase of 100x zoom

Is this proven ?

[edgy talon]

Me rig better

100x zoom is digital

[fiery rover]

Dude you probably don't even need a DSLR or a dedicated camera...just buy a better Telescope and you will destroy everyone 😂😂😂

[edgy talon]

100x zoom bad

Use optical

[cobalt brook]

So if I do 50x zoom I'd prob have a clearer photo?

[fiery rover]

Of course

[edgy talon]

Just use a telescope instead of a lens for high focal length stuff

More res and easy to hold

[fiery rover]

With 100x magnification you can aim on Saturn and see it's rings

😂

[edgy talon]

No

[fiery rover]

Your phone is insane

[edgy talon]

Digital zoom, it wouldn't show anything

[fiery rover]

?

[edgy talon]

Resolution

[cobalt brook]

No you can't do that cuz I tried lol

[edgy talon]

Rayleigh limit

[fiery rover]

I can see Saturn rings with 65

[edgy talon]

Rayleigh limit

[cobalt brook]

Guys I actually have a question

[fiery rover]

Idk...he doesn't have to use 100x... he can use less

[cobalt brook]

I just got the celestron NexYZ phone mount... What do I do if my phone is too heavy, it bends down when I mount it due to weight

I tried but it still seems to bend slightly

[fiery rover]

I have that same problem too...try screwing the eyepiece better ??

[cobalt brook]

I'll see tonight if it's possible to tighten more

[fiery rover]

Be careful not to tighten too much

[cobalt brook]

If ur referring to the photo I sent it's thru my telescope.... With a 5mm lens and my phone mounted to the lens.....

[cobalt brook]

Other option is I have a rubber band holding my phone down lolol

[fiery rover]

Aaaah...now it makes sense

😂

[cobalt brook]

You don't read photo text do you, I legit said that lol

Another question for you guys

[fiery rover]

This is what I put on my Telescope

😂😂😂😂

This is 260x magnification

This is why it bends

[cobalt brook]

Should I get moon and star filters before getting a adaptor for my Sony a6000 camera (meaning I'd be able to attach it to my telescope?)

[fiery rover]

No!!!

Don't do that

Unless you have money to spare

[cobalt brook]

Don't do what ,m

What*

[fiery rover]

Don't buy any filter

[cobalt brook]

Why?

[fiery rover]

They are pretty useless

These ones

[cobalt brook]

33$ on Amazon for a filter ?

Ok......

[fiery rover]

Do you live somewhere with a lot of light pollution @cobalt brook ?

If yes

But a light pollution filter

[cobalt brook]

Yeah sorta , London Ontario

[fiery rover]

You could buy a UHC filter...that makes everything green

Or red

But then with editing...you can get rid of that

[cobalt brook]

https://a.co/d/f0UPy6M

[fiery rover]

Or you can buy a NEBULA filter

[cobalt brook]

It's either this or I buy a mount for my wife's camera

[fiery rover]

Colour filters are only for astrophotography

[fiery rover]

Well then...it's up to you 😂😂😂

But moon filters are pretty useless

I warn you

They are not what they advertise

[cobalt brook]

Hmmm

[fiery rover]

Colour filters are good only if they are of good quality

[cobalt brook]

Ok

[fiery rover]

Also

[cobalt brook]

https://a.co/d/hrzVIPZ

https://a.co/d/jcATazF

[fiery rover]

With colour filters you will see everything red, green, blue etc

[cobalt brook]

So I should get those instead

[fiery rover]

Give me a minute

[fiery rover]

If you have a DSLR camera then these are a much better choice for me

They are also pretty cheap

I think that if you have a good DSLR camera these are your best bet...

[cobalt brook]

My wife has a Sony a6000

But my telescope isn't the best.....

But it still supports 2" and 1.25" adapters

I'm new to this whole thing so right now it's kinda low

[fiery rover]

Your wife's camera is quite heavy

[cobalt brook]

Uh, mainly I love planets but , I've been told with my telescope and the right camera stuff is be able to get Orion's nebula which.... Would be sick!

[fiery rover]

If you don't have a good counterweight you won't be able to balance the telescope

[cobalt brook]

I'd love to eventually get into deepsky, idk what widefield is or whatever

My budget probably isn't high enough for a planetary camera yet

So with my wife's camera and my telescope it wouldn't work to get better planet photos and milkeyway photos ?

[fiery rover]

https://www.astroshop.eu/astronomical-cameras/omegon-telemikro-usb-camera/p,46438

[fiery rover]

This one is pretty cheap

[cobalt brook]

I feel like I'm setting my expectations too high, meaning I'd love to one day take dso photos but I doubt that will come to pass

[fiery rover]

Your first goal is to probably save some money and then buy a new Telescope probably of 150 aperture or more

[cobalt brook]

How much we talking? I've been told my first goal should be to save up for a better mount first

My questions never get answers there

[fiery rover]

@wind spoke he could buy a new telescope with this money

A 150p virtuoso

There is the 150p explorer

At the same price

With mount

[cobalt brook]

the biggest problem i face is, i love looking up and seeing things myself, but then sharing it with my friends and family sucks because its hard to share

[fiery rover]

😕😕😕

[cobalt brook]

So i feel like, getting more into astrophotography would be the best solution and keeping my current telescope for viewing purposes

[fiery rover]

A very basic ap setup costs around 800-1000 dollars

You have to buy a telescope that's good both in visual and astrophotography that doesn't break the bank

What's your budget @cobalt brook ?

[cobalt brook]

I have a full time job but I have bills, however I can save up for a while ....

I know that doesn't answer your question

[fiery rover]

It's ok

You are the boss

[cobalt brook]

But like, shouldn't I be getting a telescope mount before thinking about getting a new telescope?

I just got this telescope this year, Feb, on my birthday

[fiery rover]

Look...if you want to take pictures of dso...a cheap 102 refractor doesn't do the job

[fiery rover]

Futz

That's a problem

You probably need to sell this Telescope if you really want to upgrade

Because a new tripod ain't gonna do sh***

You will still be getting these results that you don't like

So

Tell me

Do you want me to propose Telescopes and you say yes or no

[cobalt brook]

I'm just getting mixed feeling here

Learntostargaze on yt ranks the celestron omni az 102 as dso, moon, and planets ?

[fiery rover]

Look

I don't want to make you feel bad

[cobalt brook]

I understand what your about to say

[fiery rover]

But...YouTubers don't always tell the truth...now you ask...why should I tell you the truth...well...I can't really answer that question

Also

Because a YouTuber says something is good

Doesn't mean it's good

Astrobiscuit says that Celestron Powerseeker 70az is good...while its trash

Everything is relative

It's complicated

I fell on the same trap as you

And the guys here in this server changed my mind

[cobalt brook]

🥹

[fiery rover]

And I got an amazing telescope

I swear

Without this server I would have a trash telescope

Ooof

I have to catch my breath

😂😂😂

What I'm trying to tell you is

I was in the exact same situation you are 3 months ago

I did A LOT of research

And the help of the guys in the server

I made my choice by MYSELF

No youtuber can tell you what to buy

You have to make sure that you buy the best telescope for yourself

It's up to you

Okey

I think that was quite inspiring

😂

[cobalt brook]

Lol

Thanks

[fiery rover]

So

[cobalt brook]

So....

First things first

Find out what telescope my neighbor owns that he never uses

Maybe i can get a good one for cheap

[fiery rover]

Well

That's not a bad idea

You could look for a used one

Many people on this server will tell you thay

But in case you want a new one

I need at least an approximate budget

Deal?

[cobalt brook]

750-1000 (it'll take some time to get there tho)

[fiery rover]

You sure?

[cobalt brook]

No 😭

[fiery rover]

Hmmmm

[cobalt brook]

What's that mean

"you sure" good or bad lol

Btw that Canadian $

[fiery rover]

That's neither bad or good

It's reassurance

In order to proceed

[cobalt brook]

Ok go with 750-1000 just for now

[fiery rover]

Okies

Give me a minute

So

For the telescope

Skywatcher Evostar 72D

Are you with me

?

So telescope this one

[cobalt brook]

Link?

[fiery rover]

https://www.astroshop.eu/telescopes/skywatcher-apochromatic-refractor-ap-72-420-evostar-72-ed-ds-pro-ota/p,56994

Here you go

[cobalt brook]

Is that a carry case ?

[fiery rover]

https://www.astroshop.eu/equatorial-without-goto/skywatcher-mount-eq3-2/p,16080

[fiery rover]

No...this is just the tube

[fiery rover]

Tripod

This is a tripod used for very heavy telescopes

Chunky telescopes

[cobalt brook]

No it comes with a aluminum case

[fiery rover]

https://www.astroshop.eu/equatorial-with-goto/explore-scientific-mount-iexos-100-pmc-8-wi-fi-goto/p,61886

This is better

It comes with a goto

😉

You tell it where to ain

Aim

[cobalt brook]

This one is goto?

[fiery rover]

https://www.astroshop.eu/astronomical-cameras/bresser-camera-hd-moon-planetary-guider-1-25-color/p,77298

[fiery rover]

Oh yes

😎

This is your setup

More expensive

😉

[cobalt brook]

GTI?

[fiery rover]

It's a model

Tell me how

😂😂😂

Plz

😐

[cobalt brook]

Tbf I could be saving up too I just have house payments and crap lol

[fiery rover]

Yeah you are not that lucky...BUT if you believe it l...you can achieve it

Bets country in the world

I live in Greece

Damn

Naah

It's really bad

😂😂😂

For vacation? It's amazing

For living

It's amazing...but for living it's horrible

😂

Every year I see a lot of Finnish people visiting Greece

Generally from Scandinavia

Norwegian

You guys love Mediterranean

😂

[cobalt brook]

What's this for?

[fiery rover]

It's a camera

Planetary

[cobalt brook]

This says it isn't for heavier telescopes ?

[fiery rover]

It also works for dso

[fiery rover]

This isn't heavy

The 72d

It's pretty small

But you will also need to buy Barlows and stuff

[fiery rover]

What makes it different from your current telescope is the quality

It doesn't have colour aberration

[cobalt brook]

Do you know Canadian links? Lol

[fiery rover]

Also it has better lenses and it's especially good for dso

[fiery rover]

I will search...but generally

If you order it from the US it's cheaper

?

It will go above the budget then

[cobalt brook]

How about this

I'll make a "should I buy" chat

Send the links in there please and thank you?

[fiery rover]

That's a good idea

You can ask some top gurus

Like Gingercatmeow

He is extremely helpful

But I suggest you keep the 72d...it's really really good @cobalt brook

[cobalt brook]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1149376215229153291

[cobalt brook]

He's helped me before actually

[cobalt brook]

Done

[bronze jackal]

the astro mode takes subs and stacks them

if you go to the details of the raw image you will see the details for an individual shot which includes how long each of the subs were

[cobalt brook]

@bronze jackal

U mean that ?

[bronze jackal]

yeah

so that milky way image is 10.5 second subs

which is why theres no star trailing

[cobalt brook]

Fair, so is that how it works all the time?

Takes subs and what's why for example I didn't see the plane in my first photo I ever took using expert raw?

Can you explain why I have the weird camera lenses flair thing?

I've never had that happen before

@fiery rover do you mind sending the links to that set up in that chat ?

[fiery rover]

No problem

I will try finding them Canadian links too

[cobalt brook]

Don't worry about that

[sick rain]

I think it takes multiple exposures and stacks them, not an actual 10 minute exposure. I may be wrong though

[fiery rover]

Damn I shoulda buy a Samsung

😂

[bronze jackal]

I took this from bortle 5 with the samsung astrophotography mode for Expert Raw

[cobalt brook]

Wtf how?

[timber vector]

those damn garden lights on the left

[edgy talon]

no

uranus-c

[edgy talon]

https://www.airgundepot.com/pellet-guns.html

[fiery rover]

tp-astro said the same

😆😆😆

It's quite expensive

[timber vector]

theyre my own garden lights theres just spiders guarding the off switch hahah

theres also a massive 1850s street light in the allyway behind my garden so i might have to invest

[edgy talon]

Pop it

[timber vector]

might have too

[cobalt brook]

Anyone have an answer to this?

[bronze jackal]

I think its because of the tiny sensor

[cobalt brook]

Sensor......

[bronze jackal]

I'm not sure why its THAT bad

But i get it ever so slightly in my pictures too

[cobalt brook]

The original photo in raw format

[bronze jackal]

The sensor is just the thing behind the lens that the light hits and with it being a phone camera its tiny so its prone to more of those weird artifacts

[cobalt brook]

Enough, I was just blown away that I was able to get that with my phone alone

Fair enough*

[bronze jackal]

These tiny phone cameras tend to be more sensitive to light in the middle of the image, and since you were in australia and bortle 1 with the milky way core presumably directly overhead, that would've been a lot brighter than the surrounding sky amplifying thos effect

Also hate to be that guy but i think it was out of focus aswell 😭

Still a great image though

[cobalt brook]

Yes, that is correct, it was directly above and I didn't even realize because I don't know the night sky enough yet

Oh it probably was out of focus, I still don't know what I'm doing, I was using expert raw mode on my note 20 ultra and that's how I got that

[bronze jackal]

This second image is a very similar one, taken in bortle 5 looking straight up but at the cygnus region of the milky way because i live too far north to even see the core 😢

You can see there is a subtle band of a redish/purpleish hue going around, less noticeable because i heavily edited it, buf its the same phenomenon as in your photo

And the noticeable brightness increase in the center, that bright vibrant blue bit right in the middle is not part of the milky way just the phone being more sensitive to light falling on the center of the sensor

[unborn loom]

What flair thing?

[bronze jackal]

i think he means the colour banding around the edges of the image

[cobalt brook]

Yes this ^

[edgy talon]

amp glow?

maybe light leaking idk

[mint wagon]

Well, they may say that, but I don't think they're reffering to/comparing Samsung's zoom/telephoto cameras! Obv iPhones are nowhere near the level of Samsung in zoom clarity.

[mint wagon]

Bro- you're putting that on the Heritage 130p... you don't know how much courage you just gave me..

I must say thank you.

But that's a barlow, an eyepiece and what's the 3rd thing?

[fiery rover]

Gingercatmeow suggested me a crazy πατέντα

So

I have a 3x Barlow

And a 2x barlow

[mint wagon]

Aah yes and you removed the lens and just used the plastic as a spacer-

[fiery rover]

I take the 2x Barlow's lens off...and I put it between the 3x barlow and the eyepiece

And it multiplies the magnification

[mint wagon]

I see, alr, now you literally made me go purchase a heavy barlow with no fear no more.

[fiery rover]

Thank Mr Gingercatmeow

[mint wagon]

Thank you dear *@*Gingercatmeow

[fiery rover]

@primal charm

Thank you

😆😆😆😆

[mint wagon]

Ah and I see, is 260x easy to handle on your scope?

[fiery rover]

It is the maximum

[mint wagon]

Right

[fiery rover]

I tried stacking the Barlows but I just couldn't focus

It was impossible

[mint wagon]

Sorry I meant- like- moving the dob around and finding things- if its hard that way-

[fiery rover]

It's not

[mint wagon]

Oh that's great

I mean yeah that's what red dot finders are for!

[fiery rover]

I have masterfully collimated my red dot and I have NO problem

[primal charm]

extending barlows for world peace

[fiery rover]

It took me 4 hours

😆😆😆

[mint wagon]

And how's the image through your παντέντα; Sharp?

[fiery rover]

But at the end

[fiery rover]

It's amazing

[mint wagon]

I've not taken the time and I barely have my target in my pov with my 25mm... I should be ashamed.

[fiery rover]

Mr Jupiter

This is with my phone

[mint wagon]

Yes show!

[fiery rover]

I am uploading a video

[fiery rover]

It's uploading

[mint wagon]

I'm really curious to see, lookin to buy a 3x for myself, so

[mint wagon]

Oh w o w.

[fiery rover]

That's with digital zoom

😂😂😂

[mint wagon]

How much more digital though?

I love that..

[fiery rover]

This is without

It is uploading

[mint wagon]

Ah I see!

With a smartphone adapter?

[fiery rover]

You can very clearly see the clouds

[fiery rover]

From TEMU for 4 euros

😂😂

[mint wagon]

Oh wow.. well if it does the job, which it seems to indeed do, that's amazing.. what phone do you have, if I may ask?

[fiery rover]

I have a cheap Redmi Note 10 Pro

It costs 200 euros

But has a pretty good camera

This is 4k 30fps video

[mint wagon]

Jupiter Airlines 🏎️

[mint wagon]

Yup I know it, I used to have that too, awesome, asked to see the weight of the phone, was wondering about how the focuser would handle it- which seems to be handling it.. pretty good.. yes?

[fiery rover]

Oh it's a pain in the ass

[mint wagon]

You got me really excited because I was really concerned about the helical focuser on my Heritage 150P, now you've completely changed my mind 😮

[mint wagon]

Ah!

[fiery rover]

Well...it's not that bad

[mint wagon]

Yup

[fiery rover]

Because I put all that stuff on the focuser...it BENDS

And the phone bends with it

[mint wagon]

Oh wow, the videos you sent me are with it bending?

[fiery rover]

So I have to adjust it while it is on the telescope

Otherwise it won't work

It's crazy dude

😆😆😆

When I managed to get this video I felt like a professional astrophotographer

😂😂

I haven't seen DSO yet

Though

I have an app...called astrohopper

Which does the job for me...but I recently found out I used it wrong !!!!

[mint wagon]

Well, it's not that that that much far away from proffesional, that's some nice beggining planetary astrophotography! With a few free programs on your PC like PIPP and Registax, you can turn that video into a nice sharp image with loads of more detail possibly, I imagine!

[mint wagon]

To help you find things, like Stellarium?

[fiery rover]

I tried...but for some reason the image didn't appear in Autostakkert

I will have to try again

[mint wagon]

Ah I see.

Good luck with that!

[fiery rover]

But we have fuc*** Daniel ruining everything

😂😂

[mint wagon]

Yeah.. thankfully for me it's not as bad where I live ||Crete|| atleast for now, but still, clouds are starting to become a thing again :c

[fiery rover]

This is my last resource!!! Astrohopper works like StarSense which is super easy

[fiery rover]

Yo... what's your bortle ?

Mine is 9

👍

[mint wagon]

You don't happen to be in any of the more dangerous areas eh? Everything's safe where you're at?

[fiery rover]

Guess where I live 😂😂

[mint wagon]

I don't really have to.. 🥲 rip Athen's light pollution.

[mint wagon]

In the biggest city here where I happen to live in, it's the lp level of a big village, 6-5, I'm really lucky-

[fiery rover]

😭😭😭😭

[mint wagon]

The thing is that the second biggest telescope in the country is just an hour and 30 mins away from me 👀

Ahaha.. yup, I've got lots of locations to go to, so do you guys, but you have to travel more unfortunately..

[fiery rover]

That's freaking awesome

I don't know why they built the Observatory of Athens in Pnyka

[mint wagon]

It's a scary ride, driving up 2km high but it's worth it!

[mint wagon]

What bortle is it there?

[fiery rover]

100

😂

I went there to see the Supermoon

It was horrible

Pnyka is a small mountain that receives AAAAAALL the light pollution of Athens

It's far better observing from my terrace

[mint wagon]

It's kind of the same here, at the nearby observatory that I mentioned, it overlooks Herakleion with no mountain blocking anything, although it's still Bortle 3 I guess, and quite a sight at night, to be seeing the whole city from up there.

[fiery rover]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-happy-funny-śmiech-gif-22074544

Bortle 3

That's insane

[mint wagon]

Wait do they actually have a huge scope with so much potential like that just being filled with lp, that's sad..

[fiery rover]

I have visited the telescope

It's an ENORMOUS apochromatic refractor

[mint wagon]

Yup! It was awesome, I went to a Bortle 2 location on my holidays.. it was fantastic :0

[fiery rover]

It's crazy good

[mint wagon]

Oooh it's a refractor eh?

[fiery rover]

It's handmade !!!

[mint wagon]

The one here is a 50 inch RC scope iirc.

[fiery rover]

Oooooh RC

[mint wagon]

Some type of newtonian hybrid, yes!

[fiery rover]

Which one is better ???

What's the difference?

Idk

[mint wagon]

Not sure honestly.. as of right now I still only know the most basic 3 designs 😅

But- it's very similar to a newtonian- so keep that in mind

[mint wagon]

Oh my god that's huge

Do you remember the aperture?

[fiery rover]

Newtonians are in my heart!!!

[fiery rover]

Naaaah...I'm not sure

I can search that

[mint wagon]

Did you look through that beast? 👀

Planets through that must indeed be incredible-

[fiery rover]

Oh yes

I saw Saturn

[mint wagon]

How was it? :0

Must've been incredible?

[fiery rover]

It was a littleeeee different than the 130p

😆😆😆

It was 2x bigger

[mint wagon]

Was it like the good zoomed in astro-images of it?

[fiery rover]

It was like the moon

At 26x mag

It was crazy good

[mint wagon]

That's mind blowing

[fiery rover]

I can't find any information about the telescope

[mint wagon]

Oh my god it's indeed late- I must've woken you up a bit- sorry about that 😅 thanks for all the info!

[fiery rover]

Yeah...it's a little bit late

😆😆

[mint wagon]

Do you happen to be observing rn?

[fiery rover]

I only found that it was made in 1896!!!

[fiery rover]

No...I tried

[mint wagon]

Wowie, I think that was about the same time as the one we have here!

[fiery rover]

But even Saturn looked HORRIBLE

[mint wagon]

Rip-

[mint wagon]

Tonight?

[fiery rover]

Yes

It was horrible

[mint wagon]

Oh yeah I bet the conditions are horrible right now, Daniel is enjoying himself!

[fiery rover]

I could hardly see Saturn's rings

Anyways

Κλνχτ

[mint wagon]

With what mag?

[fiery rover]

There was something going on in the atmosphere

Some kind of turbulence

It also looked not that bright

[mint wagon]

I see

With 260x?

[fiery rover]

Oh yes

[mint wagon]

Wow-

[fiery rover]

Mat doesn't mean anything

[mint wagon]

Oh well..

True!

[fiery rover]

Mag

[mint wagon]

Καλυνύχταα 👋🏻 thanks for everythin, clear skies!

[fiery rover]

Κλνχτ

Clear skies

[edgy talon]

atmospheric refraction

[terse smelt]

FINALLY

THAT STUPID STORM HAD BEEN OBSERVED

trust me its there

im not going insane

[wind spoke]

[amber dome]

Ye if you squint a bit you can see

[cobalt brook]

Lucky you, I can't even see Jupiter with my equipment

[fair trellis]

What do you mean? Your telescope should show jupiter

[fiery rover]

I can see it too 🤣

Did you zoom with your phone ?

[patent zodiac]

This was my jupiter with my phone

[iron bear]

Sure

I ripped the lens off this black barlow. So I basically extended the Celestron barlow. But it's very dark, I believe it's more than 3x magnification

[chilly vessel]

GOD DAMN

[rocky delta]

WITH A PHONE?!?

[iron bear]

yep

[rocky delta]

Wow.

How??

[iron bear]

I didn't do anything very different. I just extended the barlow and recorded the video without noise reduction

[rocky delta]

How big is your telescope if you’re able to use so much magnifaction and still get that much light????

[iron bear]

Just 4 inches

[rocky delta]

REALLY?!?

[iron bear]

I get only about 3 or 4x

[rocky delta]

What eyepiece?

[iron bear]

6mm 68 degree svbony

[rocky delta]

Dang Alr

I’ve got a 2x Barlow and a 9mm

That’s it 💀

But mine is 4 inches too

and it’s still not anywhere near that on max mag

[iron bear]

You need more magnification. With just 2x and 10mm you will not get good details

[smoky scaffold]

iphone SE, i forgot how long exposure and how many, but this was in bortle 4 with astroshader app. very surprising for me at least because my camera app doesn’t support long exposures

noise blends in with the stars

[cobalt brook]

How?

[unborn loom]

Yeah you should be able to see jupiter

[timid fulcrum]

Why does Deepskycamera not save my pictures

[edgy talon]

widefeild settup

[fiery rover]

Dude DM me plz 😂😂😂...HOW DO YOU TAKE THESE PHOTOS???? THAT'S INSANE

I have a 260x magnification and I can't see Saturn so big...I did the same thing you did..I ripped the lens off a 2x barlow and I put it between me 3x barlow and my 10mm eyepiece but still I can't see Saturn from this close

Plz DM...I really need to know how you do this @iron bear

[fiery rover]

That's definitely not just 4x magnification...this is like 6x 😂😂...the further the eyepiece from the Barlow the bigger the magnification

[edgy talon]

no?

barlows focus to a point, just like frac lenses, if you pull the eypiece out, your gonna need more inward focus

[fiery rover]

Whatever dude...have you tried it at least? I do...it does work...you can ask Gingercatmeow too...he is the GOAT

[edgy talon]

yeah dude......................................i never tried it......................i do dsos..............

im gonna try it actually

[fiery rover]

Then keep the opinion for yourself

[fiery rover]

It does work

[edgy talon]

opinions and facts arent the same

can you unfocus your eyes?

[fiery rover]

It's not a fact coz it's not true 😂😂😂

[fiery rover]

Yes

[edgy talon]

what do you think moving the objective lens more foward does to a focal point

[fiery rover]

I'm a superhuman

[fiery rover]

Increase the focus ?

Probably

[edgy talon]

wait thats microscope stuff

[fiery rover]

I'm not good in physics

I just try things

[edgy talon]

well, what happens if you rack a focuser more inward?

it blurs it.

[fiery rover]

Yes

[edgy talon]

this has a similar effect to eyepieces and barlows

[fiery rover]

You see the mirror

[edgy talon]

secondary spider and collimation

[fiery rover]

In theory yes...but in practice no...I swear it works...I didn't believe it myself at first...but it does work

[fiery rover]

Spider?

[edgy talon]

spider veins, like a spiders legs

[fiery rover]

Aaaah ...you mean like...I understand

😂

The three things

[edgy talon]

i dont see how racking an eyepiece outwards on a barlow has any effect on FOV

[fiery rover]

What you basically do is use the empty Barlow as an extension tube

And somehow it works

[edgy talon]

but then, you need to rack your focuser inwards to get focus?

[fiery rover]

No...outwards

[edgy talon]

what?

[fiery rover]

At least for helical

Focuser

[edgy talon]

dude your pushing the eyepiece outwards, why need more outwards focus?

[fiery rover]

That's what I do every time 😕😕😕

It works

Don't ask a lot of questions

😂

I have no idea

I just tried it

[edgy talon]

outwards, meaning farther from ota?

[timber vector]

i just got like my favourite photo with just my normal iphone camera

looks much better on my phone pre edit and not compressed by discord obviously now imagine that tree wasn’t there

@edgy talon might have to get a chainsaw not a pellet gun

[edgy talon]

A 50 cal

Just shoot the trees in hapf

[timber vector]

don’t think they’re as accesible in the uk than what they are in the us

😂😂

[edgy talon]

too bad

[timber vector]

might just punch in to death like minecraft

[lone mica]

Bro stop hacking

[kindred zephyr]

should I buy s21 fe or mi 11 ultra?

[potent gorge]

for astro?

a dslr.

[unborn loom]

Dslr

[terse smelt]

dslr

[white kraken]

dslr

[terse smelt]

also you can use a dslr without a telescope as a dslr

[fiery rover]

@iron bear plz send accept my friend request...I want you to teach me how you take such amazing photographs 😂😂😂...it's insane

[amber dome]

D S L R

[chilly vessel]

cheesecake.

[unborn loom]

Dslr

[kindred zephyr]

thans

ks*

[kindred zephyr]

HMM

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Understood

what dslr should I buy for planetary photography?

under 500$

I also hate street lights

[edgy talon]

Uranus-C

[kindred zephyr]

the imx585 one?

[iron bear]

Dslr doest work for planetary. A cellphone will do 1000% better images in this case

I wouldn't buy a DSLR. 585 from playerone is so cheap and is so much better... Dslr is outdated

@steady cedar tested with cell phone vs DSLR on Lunars and the difference is big

[kindred zephyr]

is that so

I think image proccesing by the ai in phone is making the difference

maybe

cuz i dont know this deep knowlegde

[iron bear]

For planetary image, phone will be much better. Most because the fps and resolution of the video is larger

[kindred zephyr]

so which one will be best?

phone under 500$

[iron bear]

But I wouldn't buy a cell phone as expensive as the s23 ultra. Firstly, its sensor has a ridiculously small pixel size due to its 200 megapixels. Get a cell phone with the IMX 766 (Same sensor that my cell phone has)

[edgy talon]

yes

[kindred zephyr]

or should i just buy a dedicated astrocam

[edgy talon]

dedicated astro cam

[iron bear]

buy a dedicated. The 585 one

[kindred zephyr]

hmm thanks guys

[steady cedar]

no, the difference comes from the very large pixel size and the low bitrate, which makes the images terrible

Maybe a newer mirrorless camera will do a good job, for planetary purposes, but a dedicated one is preferable, like the IMX585 sensor

Also, planetary astrophotography the key is sensitivity and FPS, more important the FPS in my opinion

[steady cedar]

I personally recommend the Player One Uranus-C Pro USB3.0 color Camera, which is cooled, will have less noise, will be able to do solar astrophotography with the appropriate equipment, and you can even try doing DSO

[edgy talon]

heres dso's and some planetary with the uranus-c https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GfqdRcWbjt4oiTxGxgyofD4lMminW0tu?usp=sharing

[steady cedar]

thanks

[kindred zephyr]

thanks alot

[halcyon osprey]

hi everyone, what do you think about my andromeda? it was shot by the main sensor of my s21fe and then cropped
ISO:800
f/1.8
20s
5,4 mm
total exposure: 1h

[edgy talon]

get more

[halcyon osprey]

anyway when stacking dark and bias everything is fine but when flats are added this is the results, i tried different exp and iso on flats but nothing changed, i used DSS for stacking

[halcyon osprey]

i do not think it can get much more better than this but i will try

i got 3h of data but only 1h was usable

[edgy talon]

did you stretch?

[unborn loom]

Looks prety good

[unborn loom]

Ask in #🤓-ask-a-nerd

[halcyon osprey]

ok

[edgy talon]

did you stretch the image

[halcyon osprey]

this is already stretched

[smoky yoke]

Quick 8 second exposure with my phone

bortle 4

[timber vector]

andromeda, jupiter and the seven sisters in 1 image from my iphone

[edgy talon]

shoot in raw

[timber vector]

what does that mean

idk how to do that on my phone

[edgy talon]

Your stars have black disc's around them

[timber vector]

yeah ik but idk what shoot in raw means or how i do it

[potent gorge]

💀

[timber vector]

hows that funny im new too this well done mate u know what shooting in raw means instead of putting a skull emoji maybe help or just be quiet

like well done u know something i dont when ive been doing this about a week on my phone 💀

[potent gorge]

my brother in christ.
you have google. use that instead of getting angry at others

[timber vector]

why are u puttign a skull emoji tho what do u gain at laughing at someone 💀

whats wrong with wanting to hear an answer from an actual human

then i can ask questions and get a more in depth answer

ur weird bro we get it u know what ur doign dont need to be an ass to someone who dosent

[granite dew]

whos "we"

he wasnt laughing at you, and it wasnt directed towards you

someones in a very salty mood

[timber vector]

im in a fine mood lol

[timber vector]

ok lol sure he was

thats why he replied to me after

[granite dew]

but stil, his point stands.

just google it

not everyone would know how to shoot raw ona phone

[timber vector]

and my point stands whats wrong with wanting to hear an answer from an actual human
then i can ask questions and get a more in depth answer

[timber vector]

u think he would put a skull emoji if he didnt know

it was just unnecessary

[granite dew]

i think you are over reacting bro

therer are spastics on the internet

leave him.

[timber vector]

i cant shoot in raw cos i have the standard iphone 13 not pro version is there a good app i can use

[edgy talon]

Get Craigslist and buy a dslr

[timber vector]

a specific kind brand or model or just any that are DSLR

[edgy talon]

Get a ZWO ASI120MC with the CS lens

Then you can do planets with a telesfope

You need a laptop tho

[timber vector]

yeah i cant do all of that

might just get binoculars and a phone mount and use third party apps

im on a budget

[cobalt brook]

There may be an app that can help you but I don't know iPhone so I can't personally help

[timber vector]

yeah there’s some third party apps but i doubt they have the 10 second night mode

[amber dome]

Milky way

[cobalt brook]

@timber vector https://apps.apple.com/us/app/reeheld-long-exposure-camera/id1667982131

Try that maybe?

[smoky scaffold]

haz aren’t you using astroshader already

[cobalt brook]

Are there any android apps for this kinda thing btw? I've never really looked it up and wondered if anyone else has suggestions?

[unborn loom]

Deepskycamera

[timber vector]

yes but i wanted one for quick photos

like the actual iphone camera

[smoky scaffold]

i just use the stock camera app

it can’t do much but it seems like it gives the clearest images

at least for planets

[timber vector]

problem is i have the standard iphone 13 so i dont have more then 3x zoom

[smoky scaffold]

i’d just stick with astroshader then, you could possibly get some nice pictures with an iphone 13 camera. My iphones camera is probably worse and i’m getting good results just aiming straight up

[timber vector]

anyone have advice for shooting andromeda with my phone i can take a wide angle and clearly see it’s andromeda but i can’t zoom in and get any good results any help ?

[potent gorge]

thats a drawback to using a phone

[iron bear]

Just don't use apple raw. It's already all messed up and destroyed.

Try using raw from an alternative app. I don't know the iPhone ones, but there must be one

[timber vector]

yeah i do

[unborn loom]

You kind of have to have raw for that

Use 3x zoom

Usually people stack but i don't know how that works on an iphone

Android is fine

[timber vector]

i do but it just don’t come out right

i’ll try and get one tonight but it moves too much for me to get a good photo

i also don’t have a mount just prop it up outside

[unborn loom]

How so?

[unborn loom]

Yeah put it on like a chair or some sht

[timber vector]

i do but on 3x zoom and being in the uk either clouds ruin it or andromeda moves too much cos i’m trying to get a like 10 min exposure image

[unborn loom]

Yeah you move with the sky

[kindred zephyr]

amazing

[kindred zephyr]

thanks

[sage perch]

Can anyone help I have a Samsung galaxy a52s can I do any astro stuff with it

[smoky scaffold]

orion nebula, heavily edited

[amber dome]

Can you send the unedited version

[cobalt brook]

What's the suggestion with android ?

[smoky scaffold]

goddamn

much better than me, that’s pretty awesome

[amber dome]

Ye I might have oversaturated the reds a bit

[unborn loom]

Because it's probably better

[cobalt brook]

No I mean what do you suggest for using ? Default camera app? Expert raw? A play store app?

[amber dome]

Default camera apps on androids are pretty good, but using an app called Deep Sky Camera is probably better

[unborn loom]

I use deafult camera app i find that to already be very good

[cobalt brook]

@amber dome I guess the advantage of using expert raw or deep sky camera would be automatic settings that I don't know what I would need to change on the default app 😂

[iron bear]

Single 55s iso 400 without crop. Lagoon nebula
114/900mm, eq3 with onstep, 20mm 68 Degree svbony. Xiaomi 12

[patent zodiac]

Bro is that real?!?

With phonr

Wtf

[chilly vessel]

how the hell

that is impressive

[iron bear]

Yep

with 15 frames. I will process latter

[chilly vessel]

sheesh

amazing work

[cobalt brook]

On a telescope I assume?

[iron bear]

yep

[cobalt brook]

Damn bro that's sick!

[patent zodiac]

Dayum

[smoky scaffold]

what phone has the best sensor for ap tho

or what brand

[sick rain]

You shouldn't buy a new phone for ap. Just get a DSLR or a mirrorless camera

[smoky scaffold]

i’m curious

[iron bear]

imx 989. Xiaomi 12s ultra, mi13 pro, mi13s ultra and another ones

It's a one inch sensor. Bigger than the 533... But I don't think they've released more than 32s on it yet. So I prefer the IMX 766 of my Xiaomi 12 which releases up to 55s

[iron bear]

Stacked version

with processing

[edgy talon]

DBE?

[iron bear]

Yes, I did

ABE actually. DBE doesn't work very well if you try to use it along the edges of the eyepiece without cropping the image

[amber dome]

Holy shit that's amazing

[cobalt brook]

How does deepskycamera work?

[amber dome]

Just like your default camera

But with more features

[cobalt brook]

Idk how to run it tho

[edgy talon]

oh yeah

its kinda orange

would you like blurx?

[iron bear]

Yes, the edges of the eyepiece change the color a little. I could have fixed this in Photoshop, but I processed this photo in 10 minutes before leaving for college, so I didn't spend much time refining it

[iron bear]

Yes, I use Blurx and Noisex

[edgy talon]

oh okay nice

[ember nebula]

Dude, I think you're the best phone astrophotographer here. Your pictures are amazing.

[fickle tree]

The quality wont be the best but its defenetly possible

I have a phone adapter for my telescope so i can take pics

[smoky scaffold]

yeah same, some come with one

[edgy talon]

Yeah but I got more detail from a single uranus-c sub than I did from a whole session of m51 with a phone

[crisp river]

That blur spot in bright photo is lagoon nebula

[edgy talon]

DBE please

[formal notch]

I got Andromeda with just phone

[smoky scaffold]

how long of exposure

[formal notch]

16 sec

Stacked 12 imgs

i got plaidies nebulosity using just phone

[chilly vessel]

blackhole?!?!?!

[potent gorge]

nice field rotation

[formal notch]

Dust spot : )

[wild flame]

aughhh I feel like im getting so close to revealing a bit of the dust lanes 😭
I hope I can get more data soon

hastily edited pic of M31, once I get more frames I'll upload a finished photo

[fair trellis]

I never knew phones can see black holes

[formal notch]

Nice joke

[unborn loom]

What equipment?

Stretch more

You'll get the lanes

[wild flame]

S22 Ultra and a tripod

Too noisy to stretch past that point

[iron bear]

Milkyway timelapse on equatorial mount
Xiaomi 12. 250x55s iso 400
Bortle 4, Brazil. -23 Degree