Planetary Imaging

[summer crypt]

not far off tho

hey can you help me with autostakkerte rq..

[somber stratus]

2nd image is a closer match.

[summer crypt]

nowheere in the video i took does the moon go off screen yett the tiff it produced does

[somber stratus]

Probably due to planet (COG) mode being selected.

[summer crypt]

need. more. apperture.

[summer crypt]

OHHHHHHHHH

[somber stratus]

Shift+click and drag the preview window.

to offset the COG position

[summer crypt]

done!

tysm

also wtf?

[somber stratus]

44GB is about right for lunar lol

[summer crypt]

how much are your jupiter vids

crazy to think you got the same detail on jupiter's moons as i did on our moon

[somber stratus]

eeehh, not quite that good. Probably similar to a Moon photo taken with an unaided phone camera.

[robust plover]

I will still never get over how good your images are

[polar forge]

Get imx585 😎

[velvet island]

662

[polar forge]

@somber stratus when you upgrading from that 24? 🙈

We need to see neptune clearly

[velvet island]

He’d need to live in space to make use of a bigger scope

[polar forge]

Put that scope on the moon

[quick cairn]

24” haha

[robust plover]

Holy

[quick cairn]

2 smaller moons on the left of IO in the last image, cool.

[open nacelle]

getting surface detail on the moons is crazy , amazing work

[woven kite]

timocharis

chat i got a 90 degree css pass later

[quick cairn]

nice

[low oar]

Any feedback on this image so far, things i should change, things that look bad?

[silent mesa]

I think you should make the image darker

[low oar]

hows this

[silent mesa]

I think it looks good

Imo I would give it a little more contrast like this

[low oar]

i understand that but at the same time

this image was taken in broad daylight

and i like my images to be as acurate as possible to what acautally happened, but thats just me

but thanks for the feedback

[silent mesa]

Oh really

Well then I think you did a good job

[low oar]

Yea

Like right next to the sun type stuff

[woven kite]

i wanted to get a shot of broad daylight jupiter but i saw a bunny outside and i went in and edited the photo and i forgot about setting up my scope so heres my jupiter

[woven kite]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-rabbit-falling-boo-scared-do-not-be-afraid-boo-scared-rabbit-gif-3209947535367689257

[woven kite]

task failed successfully. when the css was overhead i was still trying to figure out alignment. slewed to it at around 45 degrees and got ~20 frames i am lucky

[low oar]

oh wow dude, good job!

[woven kite]

thanks, im gonna try using a 1.5x barlow next time (which is what set me back today)

[quick cairn]

Awesome

[low oar]

thx

[quiet glen]

CSS pass in 3 minutes do these settings look fine

Hopefully I got it

[quick cairn]

You want histogram at 80-90%

[low oar]

Looks good to me

Good luck bro

[quick cairn]

Planet should be much brighter

Don’t mess about too much

Just go for it

[low oar]

I mean not really tbh

Don’t want the station to be blowout

Blown

[quick cairn]

That’s true

Yeah keep it how it is and make a Jupiter stack seperate

Was 9 mins ago anyways

How did it go?

[low oar]

Yea for transits you never shoot them together

[quick cairn]

Gitcha

[low oar]

Get the satellite, then the planet

Or vice versa

[quick cairn]

Yup

[quiet glen]

I’m uploading the file rn

[low oar]

Nice

[quiet glen]

I’ll use pipp in about 15ish minutes to see

I’m also setting up for dso

I saw the booster re entry for the space x launch

Do I just use the optimize for iss in pipp

guess who didnt get a single frame of the css

it was a really bad pass anyway so its fine

unless this is it

[low oar]

What I do is just do like lunar or solar surface

[quiet glen]

ok

[low oar]

Then just separate all the frames individually and then manually search for the ISS in the frames

Then only use the hand few from the flyby

[quiet glen]

so you turn the video into tiff files then look through them all?

[low oar]

Yea I mean you should have a rough estimate on when the pass was

It took me like 2 minutes to find the frames the ISS were in on mine

If that

My video was only like 700 frames

[quiet glen]

I started my video like a minute early so I had around 15k frames

[low oar]

I mean still shouldn’t be that difficult tbh I mean if there’s an easier way someone chime in but that’s just what I did

[quiet glen]

I have some good Passovers soon 84 degree Tiangong on Thursday. 70 degree iss pass on the 26th. 58 degree iss pass on the 27th. And a 74 degree Tiangong pass on the 29th

[low oar]

Heck yea

[quiet glen]

hopefully i dont mess them up

[low oar]

I mean I’ve messed up 90% of my ISS shots

I just happened to get incredibly lucky beyond belief with my shot

You’ll miss some and get some it is what it is

Last ISS shot with the moon I attempt had my exposure at 8ms 😭

[quiet glen]

Oof

The only time I got the iss is when it was cloudy so I’m very surprised I even got it. Messed up my settings

Looks like it was taken off a 100 yr old camera

[somber stratus]

single ISS looks better. The composites only work with >4 or so.

[polar forge]

Look at those bands!

[ruby compass]

thats insane

[quick cairn]

Sadly I will not be able to image this

[summer crypt]

planetary people help me PLEASE

i CANT stack my lunar video

any help is appreciated

autostakkerte is outputing this

[quick cairn]

Stabilize with PIPP then crop in autostakkert

Before you stack

Edges don’t stack well if you can’t fit the entire planetary disc

[summer crypt]

i used pip again but i selected this mode?

it gave me a million subs

[summer crypt]

i tried my best to have the full moon in frame for as long as possible

is this bad focus or atmosphere

IT GAVE ME A WORSE IMAGE

LIKE BRO WHAT

[summer crypt]

same region on the 5 minute stack

i was out of focus wasnt i...

[velvet island]

Looks out of focus

What’s the % of frames you stacked?

[summer crypt]

50..

its out of focus defo

[low oar]

What scope?

[summer crypt]

skywatcher mah 1500/127

mak*

[quiet glen]

I should be able to get this how do you do occultations though?

[low oar]

Yea it will be daytime for me

[low oar]

I mean like anything that involved 2 separate bodies, for a great picture you just shoot them at different times

Shoot Venus, then shoot the moon and combine

[quiet glen]

Oh is it not a good idea to shoot it during the day

[low oar]

What?

[quiet glen]

The occulation

[low oar]

Wdym

[quiet glen]

It will be daytime for me when it happens

[low oar]

Same

[quiet glen]

Is it still worth attempting

[low oar]

Obviously

[quiet glen]

I wanna see Venus pop out from behind the moon

[quiet glen]

Wow

[low oar]

I just got this in daylight idk why you wouldn’t be able to do that as well

Unless you have cl*uds

[quiet glen]

I was worried about the sun but I just looked and it’s not close to the moon

Also last night I took a closeup of a crater on the moon but when I try to use pipp it doesn’t stabilize it. This is my first time doing lunar also

[quick cairn]

Would still be able to do it

[low oar]

Easily

[summer crypt]

june 17 an 5 pm

[rugged knoll]

two filter wheels?

[hybrid rain]

horrifying

[ruby compass]

Would lwk not recommend looking at the sun without a solar filter

[hybrid rain]

for a second i thought your pfp was lord farquad 😭

also yeah you are a stupid for that

did you melt your secondary

[quick cairn]

Bro what are you doing

[hybrid rain]

melting away the secondary obv

[low oar]

Aye nice one

👀

[open nacelle]

how bruh 😭

[thick heron]

What does vaporized metal smell like?

[hasty hull]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-reaction-gorilla-shocked-appauled-eating-pepper-gif-2230596277954293584

[quick cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/brainless-cancer-diagnosis-brain-cancer-diagnosis-brain-cancer-gif-4920907122808905355

[grave mountain]

https://klipy.com/gifs/patrick-star-dumb-10

[velvet island]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130319439854850098/1505733019372355694/tenor.gif

[livid sierra]

I won’t call you dumb but that is not a smart thing to do.

[ruby compass]

Tried to burn a paper lol

[thick heron]

Did it work?

[ruby compass]

No

Burned my eyepiece tho

[thick heron]

Should've probably tried this with a cheap magnifying glass.

[ruby compass]

Yea

[hybrid rain]

fat freznel

[wet nest]

or like. take the mirror out

its what i did sometimes

[rain mauve]

pls no

[elder venture]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-cat-explode-mike-interpol-gif-13503338605162614186

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1234346571781505045

[quick cairn]

Fr

[flint siren]

What did you expect ??

The one thing you should never do, you did it

[elder venture]

natural selection

[flint siren]

Darwin's natural selection

lmao

survival instinct of a sock

[heavy onyx]

Literally the first thing anybody learns when they get their first telescope

[thick heron]

Those dobs come with a tag telling you not to do it.
https://youtu.be/YcLrnr6cgWA

[rugged knoll]

.

I cant even feel bad because this is such an obvious mistake

[hybrid rain]

you shouldnt feel bad for him at all.

[rugged knoll]

what did you think was going to happen

[polar forge]

He was gonna see the core of the sun for a second.

[quick cairn]

Respectfully this is idiotic

[rugged knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443017157070950592/1479649853867819169/image.gif

[polar forge]

Bro's gonna get demoted from mini nerd to protostar premium

[quick cairn]

Honestly he should be for that…

[rare portal]

sonion

[polar forge]

@proper girder 😛

Or give us all nerd role.

[wary otter]

i keep mine in my phone case so I don't forget

[quick cairn]

Mossy, curve our grade

[polar forge]

How'd you forget it in the first place?

[rugged knoll]

is this an allsky lens on your guidecam

[woven kite]

i thought he had a c8 though or did he just destroy a brand new dob

[rugged knoll]

i can see its shadow

[polar forge]

yes new dob

[wary otter]

on my planetary cam yes

[woven kite]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-gif-6568025221394482814

i mean...warranty.......

[wary otter]

naah

warranty won't work on that

[rugged knoll]

warranty covers doing something clearly stated not to do?

[sharp ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/esqueleto-gif-24452082

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-low-raven-crow-real-science-low-i-q-gif-17338607635233300977

[hybrid rain]

he should be banned.

[quick cairn]

Honestly for posting that

[polar forge]

Why

[hybrid rain]

can i dm?

[polar forge]

yes

[hasty hull]

Very nice

I have a tiangong solar transit coming up in a couple weeks, could be rad

I got an Iss solar transit one time in ‘23, one of my coolest things I’ve done I think

[low oar]

Jce

Nice

[woven kite]

so what happened here made me think. would imaging planets close to the sun be safe if the sun stays out of the maximum fov of the scope? i believe my scope is around 2 degrees disregarding vignetting. closest ive gotten to the sun without a filter was 7 degrees alt, would 5 degrees in alt az be too much

[hybrid rain]

sounds risky but idk

[woven kite]

taking off the filter makes it shift sometimes too

it is risky

[low oar]

Idk I’ve done mercury before and that was close

[woven kite]

im gonna use a 10 degree limit to be safe

[summer crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/kenjaku-brain-geto-suguru-jjk-gif-13395973890702504491

[somber stratus]

Bro's posted some variation of the same image like 5 times now, lol

[fathom wing]

My first image with new astrocam

Touptek imx178
Sw130PDS + Sharpstar 0.95x
25ms 300/1200 frames stacked

||🧼 ||

[winter moat]

Nice first pic fellow 178 user

[rain mauve]

nice oneee lets goo

jupiter is kinda low right now, i miss my perfect seeing jupiter

and now its all jelly seeing lol

[fathom wing]

@winter moat @rain mauve Tysm guys!

[elder heath]

I need to get Pluto on my 3D printed mount

I believe I can get with with like 10 minutes of integration on my 4" frac

[winter moat]

[low oar]

🤫 its peak

[ruby compass]

That it would burn? (It didnt)

[flint siren]

Just use a damn lens for that

[ruby compass]

I did

Didnt burn

[flint siren]

You were really determined to burn that piece of paper..

[ruby compass]

Yea😔

[flint siren]

lwk dumbass

[woven kite]

i think he just trolling the file name is a screenshot

[flint siren]

respectfully

[ruby compass]

Yeah cuz its a ss from the video i recorded

[fathom wing]

THIS IS PEAK

My best moon ever

Minimum wavelets and processing

[ruby compass]

@flint siren can confirm thats my scope

[flint siren]

sadly yeah he ain't trolling

just think the next time you do something like that

[olive saddle]

was this just for shits and giggles or did you genuinely point it at the sun thinking your secondary (or primary, honestly) mirror wouldn't be damaged

[flint siren]

even when i'm pointing at less than a degree from the Sun it's less risky than that

[ruby compass]

I was just really really really wanted to burn the paper. Also mirrors didnt get dameged

[ruby compass]

You do less than a degree away without filters?

[flint siren]

I have a system to reject the Sunlight beam

[ruby compass]

Wait how?

[flint siren]

Built it for the 4th of April

[ruby compass]

Ohh

[olive saddle]

Alright well if you wish to utilize the sun for any arsonistic reasons in the future, I'd recommend a fresnel lens or even just a magnifying glass. Much less risky to you and your telescope. Or just be normal like the rest of us and use DIY napalm, I guess

[olive saddle]

I would still check your secondary for damage, could have a pockmark etched into it from the focused sunlight

[ruby compass]

Well if 200x mag aint anough to burn paper? Why would a magnifying glass do it?

[ruby compass]

Nothing looked wrong when k checked

[flint siren]

or just stop trying to burn that poor piece of paper 🥀

[olive saddle]

Magnification isn't the technique, rather surface area.

[ruby compass]

Ahh

[flint siren]

magnification is worse

get less energy per surface area

[olive saddle]

A magnifying glass magnifies far less than an 80mm refractor, but the refractor will have a harder time because the magnifying glass technically has a larger aperture (assuming it's bigger than 80mm of course)

[ruby compass]

Well i used an 8" dob. Not gonna find any 8" magnifying glasses

[hybrid rain]

it doesnt reach focus

[olive saddle]

I'm sure it exists somewhere

[flint siren]

you can easily burn something with less than a 4" lens

[hybrid rain]

i used a 25mm lens

use this and you can burn a hole in anything

[ruby compass]

Or i just build a sun oven 💔

[hybrid rain]

who tf is owen

[woven kite]

idk whats your logic here telescopes arent made for setting fires

[hybrid rain]

you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

[ruby compass]

Oven

[olive saddle]

yeah exactly, just be normal like the rest of us and use a BIC lighter and an entire can of diethyl ether (please do not)

[hybrid rain]

30mm aperatuere 17.5mm fl

[woven kite]

i tried to diy a jet engine and it made a little part of the sidewalk black

[olive saddle]

I've always wanted to try that, it's surprisingly not difficult to do (as far as actual construction goes)

just need metal with a high enough melting point that the jet engine won't melt itself

which, obviously, is the difficult part

[livid sierra]

I burned leaves with a magnifying glass when I was younger.

As have millions of people.

Important part is that you use a magnifying glass.

[woven kite]

i used a soda can and rubbing alcohol it was so scuffed

[hybrid rain]

do a john dobson

he used the sun to test the fl of his blanks

[olive saddle]

that's awesome lol

[woven kite]

i was an evil kid i shined the light ontop of the opening of anthill

[hybrid rain]

:(

[fathom wing]

Any improves?

It looks amazing for me

[low oar]

Clean, I personally would increase exposure but that’s me

[hybrid rain]

@ruby compass y u look like a logitek mouse

[quick cairn]

Time is your friend, probably smaller than that

[low oar]

I like it

[candid flare]

@coarse aspen ^

[rain mauve]

today's saturn

i have to get 3x barlow, 2x barlow leads me to undersampled,4x barlow leads me into oversampled lmao

[quick cairn]

Awesome

[elder venture]

everything does

[elder venture]

impressive

You pull everything out of that Hadley

[candid flare]

how are your eyes?

[ruby compass]

Didnt look into it

[candid flare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rat-dance-8--k01KS4S1SKYF4QAD5S9ZSC9ZMF3

[summer crypt]

how do you focus on the moon?

[fathom wing]

Live view in toupsky app

[summer crypt]

😑

[winter moat]

Here's my pic of the moon with my quattro 150 and cc with the 178

[fathom wing]

Niice

Love how it looks

[winter moat]

Thanks

[summer crypt]

bruh.

[rain mauve]

I like the colour very nice

[winter moat]

Thx

[rain mauve]

Yeah, I underimasted the Hadley XD, it's super sharp when collimate properly

Thanks anyway

[fathom wing]

Can anyone try to process this?

[winter moat]

Here is my try on phone

[ruby compass]

Son💔

[fathom wing]

Very smooth Love it

[quick cairn]

Did he get banned 😭😭😭

[grave mountain]

@hybrid rain so trigered that he left

omg good riddance

[quick cairn]

Great news

[hybrid rain]

glad that nazi is gon

[grave mountain]

bye bye neo nazi looksmaxxer no personality boot licker guy

[quick cairn]

I mean you cannot be that stupid…

[flint siren]

Poor thing lol

[hybrid rain]

the scope you mean right?

[polar forge]

Logitech mouse 😂😂😂

[polar forge]

Probably you can 😆

[flint siren]

No, just poor guy.

Yeah he's terribly stupid, but pretty sure it's just his environnement.

[hybrid rain]

maybe

[flint siren]

Ok to call him stupid but have pity

[quick cairn]

Yuh

[summer crypt]

LEAVE HIM ALONEEEEEE

[quick cairn]

He posted a photo pointing his dob at the sun

[summer crypt]

I KNOW

he freaked up his scope

that should be enough

you dont need to add insult to injury

[quick cairn]

Agree to disagree

[summer crypt]

huh

[hybrid rain]

but he nazi :(

[quick cairn]

This isn’t even insulting

He did it to himself

[summer crypt]

HE IS?

[hybrid rain]

yeah, yoships is saying its an environmental factor or whatever

not like a self chosen one

well self chosen but having hand moved towards by the environment

[summer crypt]

im like pretty caught up with the story

WHEN did he say he;s a nazi

[quick cairn]

Is the server no longer boosted?

I can’t send a vid over 100mb

[hybrid rain]

you havent seen the image have you

[hybrid rain]

i cant send anything 100mb usually

[quick cairn]

Dang

[summer crypt]

i saw the dobson with smoke coming out of it

what'd he send

[hybrid rain]

wasnt on this servwr

on other social media

but people have neen seding that phto of what he posted

[summer crypt]

oh i see

in dms

wtf

[summer crypt]

yeah get him off the planet

[quick cairn]

Holy bipolar

[summer crypt]

its so beautiful

[quick cairn]

Yeahhhh

[grave mountain]

So glad I exposed devtigr to other people lol

[summer crypt]

if i remember correctly his pfp was the one looksmaxing pdf?

[hybrid rain]

yeah

he is a loon maxer

[hybrid rain]

bob sent me screenshots, i think u sent them origianly

[summer crypt]

arsonist neo nazi pdf looksmaxer

[hybrid rain]

oh wait the look maxer in his pfp is him

he anihlated his jawline

[grave mountain]

I did lol

[hybrid rain]

into scariness

[grave mountain]

humble of you to assume he has a jawline

[hybrid rain]

it looks like a logtek mouse

unless he was faking it

[grave mountain]

lmao

[summer crypt]

probably not, people who think looks are everything tend to be really self centered and stupid

[quick cairn]

Hm

[celest grove]

does someone here know if planetry with a 533 sensor works good

[winter moat]

would work

Pixel size matters

[celest grove]

and i would get good images with my skymax 102 on a gti

[celest grove]

approx 2.5

sampling

[velvet island]

102mm aperture won't let you resolve much

[winter moat]

here this is with my 114@f12 cc with the Same Pixel size

no barlow

[celest grove]

oh

[winter moat]

It's far from native resolution

[celest grove]

no

i was hoping for it to be my main planetary scope

[winter moat]

The camera is ok

[celest grove]

with 2x barlow or 1.5x maybe 😭

[winter moat]

Yea

[celest grove]

and the scope 😭

[winter moat]

This is with the same scope but the Neptune-C with 2.4 μm Pixel size and no barlow

[celest grove]

that would be a good image for me thx

bc i thought my images would stay like this:

[winter moat]

I'm already in the good sampling territory with F12 and 2.4μm

[winter moat]

Imo Overprocessed

[celest grove]

so the 3.76 pixels wont be very good?

[winter moat]

you need barlow

[celest grove]

ik but i wanted to get some more cloudband detail so i pushed the wavelets

[winter moat]

Yee

[celest grove]

bc this is a bit too soft imo (with iphone 17 and no tracking and no barlow and 10mm eyepice btw)

[winter moat]

You need 1.7 Barlow for 6x rule

[hybrid rain]

great red chunk

[celest grove]

fr 😭

[hybrid rain]

how much barlow do i need for 3444.4444mm fl on a 10" mirror

[velvet island]

0.5x barlow

[celest grove]

depends on camera senmsor pixel size and ur location

[winter moat]

Hmmm

[hybrid rain]

do you not know?

:(

[winter moat]

Lemme calculate

[winter moat]

what pixel size

[hybrid rain]

2.9um

[winter moat]

1,49 barlow

[hybrid rain]

damn

actually needs a barlow

[winter moat]

[hybrid rain]

i knew i was slightly off but i didnt know i was that off

[winter moat]

yee

[winter moat]

Maybe an ADC would do the trick

maybe not

[hasty hull]

What latitude are you imaging from again? Looks good

[quick cairn]

35.36’

[quick cairn]

Will only get better however I will say seeing was on my side

[hybrid rain]

i need one yeah

[quick cairn]

They help a ton

[winter moat]

Mee too

[low oar]

POV you get a ISS transit

[hasty hull]

I’m at 40N and Saturn is reaching about 20deg during sunrise. In a couple weeks it will finally clear my atrocious treeline so I’ll get my first of the season soon I hope

https://tenor.com/view/yanatwt-gif-22814884

how it feels watching everybody getting their first Saturn shots

[hybrid rain]

r u gunna ai a thumbnail?

(context is he uses ai for his video thumbnails)

[hasty hull]

Oh hell nah

[low oar]

Ain’t that big a deal, idk what your problem is 😂

[hasty hull]

Ai👎 especially in a hobby that is so involved in science and authenticity

[low oar]

Bro I’m not using ai in my images

[hasty hull]

But you also make those “I took 10000000 photos of jupiter” captions so idk if that’ll reach you tbh

[low oar]

It’s a YouTube thumbnail it’s just not that deep

[hasty hull]

Idk what it is I’ve noticed a lot of Astro people use Ai for weird shit

Like pfps and thumbnails and for art/visuals in their videos

[low oar]

Idk bruh I made a thumbnail that she couldn’t even tell was ai 😂

Just so not that deep

[hasty hull]

Not talking about you specifically anymore just like something I’ve noticed in the broader community

[hybrid rain]

its upsetting

[low oar]

Yea for people who are faking images

Not YouTube thumbnails 😭

[hasty hull]

I understand from your pov it seems like easiest/inconsequential thing to do but if I see somebody use ai I will just not interact with the channel

So there is a portion of an audience you lose out on

[quick cairn]

Why not move the setup?

[low oar]

Can’t really tell anyway

[quick cairn]

I think Kenny understands the pros and cons

[low oar]

^

[hybrid rain]

jupiter addict gone saturn addict?

[quick cairn]

No lol

I’m still Jupiter addict

[hasty hull]

Out like a mile in the woods, my house area is surrounded by trees up to about 30° and I don’t have a spot close by to drive to that would be comfortable setting up my 12” dob lol

Sometimes when I’m spending the night at a friends house I’ll set up in their backyard tho

[quick cairn]

I suppose lol, I’ve got my setup pretty much 100% mobile now

I have a 12V /AC 400 watt inverter that I can power all my stuff with using my car

[hybrid rain]

ur content seems more marketed towards kids than like astronomers in total

[quick cairn]

The thumbnails I’d have to agree on

[low oar]

I’ve made 1 thumbnail chat

1

[hybrid rain]

you also do shorts

shorts is like a childish thing to use

like tiktok

[quick cairn]

Building a community on YouTube is a time thing and consistent posting, not something that can be forced with the “perfect video”

[low oar]

Well im not trying to get 5 views on each post

[hybrid rain]

john dobsons video did pretty well and it isnt marketed towards kids

https://youtu.be/snz7JJlSZvw

[low oar]

And that’s legit just the YouTube demographic, my Facebook audience is mainly older people anyway

[hybrid rain]

its short forms demographic mainly

[low oar]

Obviously a video with the guy who revolutionized telescopes is going to do well

[low oar]

I mean that’s just not true lol

I have the numbers and comments and interactions to back it up

[hasty hull]

I do think that there is a portion of the Astro internet that should be able to introduce younger/the average person to the hobby but I honestly never watch those lol I just get annoyed by the vocabularies they use

[hybrid rain]

idkk only 1 of my views was by a kid

[low oar]

Out of the 30?

[hybrid rain]

yeahhh

[hybrid rain]

yeah

[low oar]

Your comparing a grain of sand to a mountain

And then claiming things that aren’t true

[hybrid rain]

idk, youtube should have more adults than children

like logically

and im sure it does

[low oar]

Who knows

[velvet island]

I mean your video got 100 views lol

[hasty hull]

If you’re trying to go for more of an Astrobackyard/aj mcarthy presence in the space then you are accomplishing that

Literally my biggest ick with that though is the “I took 10000000 photos and this is what i got” trope it literally drives me insane every time and I will die on this hill

[low oar]

lol

[hasty hull]

Like just tell them you took a 5 minute video

[hybrid rain]

asrobackyard after saying the wrong thing 13 times in a row:

i remember he kept saying something wrong

svbony!!!

he keeps pronouncing svbony weird

[hasty hull]

Also because of the somewhat fragile trust between astrophotographers and the general population, if you intentionally take something simple and try to make it sound super outlandish that’s going to make more people go “nah see yeah that’s insane they’re all faking it”

[low oar]

I mean obviously, it was a bad vid lol

[hybrid rain]

convolution

[hasty hull]

Whereas explaining your process in the honest way is just better for everyone

[hybrid rain]

was it?

i didnt watch it

[low oar]

Ye

[hybrid rain]

i have started watching youtube for entertainment

https://youtu.be/uGiwkgPiu2I?si=OdCmnIWPfZwwMTEB

the clickbait got me

[quick cairn]

I think you’re trading active audience with inactive audience

People that will comment and ask questions vs kids that will click out after 5 mins

[hybrid rain]

do i dive the brittanic some day

[hybrid rain]

thats why you add ragebait after the first 3 mins

[low oar]

Well yea that’s the point

Like I can post a short and be fine but I really enjoy filming long form as well and I need a stable audience for that

That’s what I’m trying to build

[hybrid rain]

lemme check my demographic for my main account

someone disliked my video

how will i cope

[low oar]

😭

[celest grove]

the most i got was like 17k likes only 😭

[hasty hull]

Awesome 1960 lunar atlas with hundreds of cool prints in here

[winter moat]

the close up looks realy good

[somber stratus]

you sir need to clean your imaging train

[somber stratus]

I'm still a month out from 20deg, let alone 30.

[quick cairn]

Haha that’s a video through the eyepiece with my phone, I’ve cleaned and cleaned and can’t figure out what’s making those dusts spots, taken stuff apart too

This is the camera screen

[low oar]

Ring Spokes are back?

[silent mesa]

May 19th

[summer crypt]

HOW DO YOU FOCUS ON THE MOON

I CANT GET IT RIGHT

[silent mesa]

wdym

[silent mesa]

what scope r u using

[summer crypt]

skywatcher mak 1500/127

full image (5 minute stack)

[silent mesa]

point your cam at the edge of the moon and focus until the blur is gone

[summer crypt]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[woven kite]

do you have reddit? ive seen a lot of planetary stuff go viral there. deep sky not so much

maybe andromeda

[rain mauve]

today saturn

[summer crypt]

where are the stars? 😂

[rain mauve]

There are no stars I believe lol

[somber stratus]

They aren't "back". They're almost always there, just sometimes more prominent.

[rain mauve]

Anyway I wanna ask, with 4 inch and good seeing filters are necessary?

[hybrid rain]

would a 10" resolve them?

[somber stratus]

Can see some minor spokes at lower-left here. Underside of the ring.

[hybrid rain]

spinny mf

[summer crypt]

can you send a picture of your scope pls?

[rain mauve]

Is this with ir filter?

[hybrid rain]

its a 24"

i belive

[summer crypt]

yah i know

is it like astro biscuit’s beast?

[hybrid rain]

doesnt astrobiscut have a small one

[summer crypt]

yeah if thats a small one idk

[hybrid rain]

how big is it?

[somber stratus]

yeah 642nm BP.

[hybrid rain]

is that a cassegrain?

[hybrid rain]

i see a nazymuth

[rugged knoll]

newt it seems

[hybrid rain]

i thought the damn mounting pole was a focus toob

[quick cairn]

I saw that

[quick cairn]

Very good

[quick cairn]

So many pixels 😭😭😭 how do you get this kind of sampling, seeing must have been amazing.

Tom you use that filter with the Uranus-M right?

[somber stratus]

That was f/17 only. And yeah Uranus-M

[hybrid rain]

woa

[quick cairn]

I look forward to Tom’s photos later this year of Saturn, will look like Hubble if he gets good seeing

[hybrid rain]

hubble bubble

[quiet glen]

Any setting recommendations

It’s an 84 degree pass -1.3 magnitude

[quick cairn]

Awesome

[quiet glen]

I’m just worried it will still be to light outside

[low oar]

Idk if your gonna be able to see that one

Who knows

[quiet glen]

It’s worth a shot

I’ll most likely be able to see Venus and Jupiter

If I am able to see it what gain would be good

[quiet glen]

Nova said he faintly see it when the sun was -4 degrees under the horizon and -0.06 magnitude so I think I have a chance

[native plume]

what settings should i use for an iss moon transit? just the normal setting you'd use to capture the moon?
also is a low pass iss transit even worth it? ~8deg from the horizon, or will it be too small to see?
im thinking of attaching my dslr on my evo 6

[low oar]

What’s the ISS angular size

[native plume]

~16.8 arcseconds if stellarium is right

[low oar]

Go to ISS transit finder

The website

[native plume]

oh
20.10"

[low oar]

But based off what you said, a 6 inch with a dslr, and 8 degrees from the horizon, that junk would be diabolically small

Yea

That’s insanely small

Especially with a dslr and 6 inch

Butttt that definitely doesn’t mean you can’t image it

Go for it!

[quiet glen]

I may be the worst planetary imager out there

I had an 84 degree css pass but I left my roi to large

And I shot at 16fps

Meaning I missed it

🤦

But it’s okay since I now found out how to shoot max roi at 76 fps so if I make the mistake again it may be salvageable

[quick cairn]

Bruh

[quiet glen]

I have another good pass soon though

[woven kite]

youre good first time i tried i didnt click record

[somber stratus]

Chair for scale. Cover on because it’s day.

[somber stratus]

AI

[polar forge]

Goodluck with stealing that thing

[summer crypt]

holy shi

how small is the smallest thing you could resolve on the moon?

like 1 km?

[somber stratus]

Slightly less than, yeah

[summer crypt]

okay and lets say you added a 5x barlow, could you see the apollo landing sites?

[elder venture]

adding a Barlow doesn’t magically increase how much you can resolve

Your capability in resolution is based off of aperture (and wavelength)

A Barlow just let’s you use that resolution

Should your camera not be able to due to it’s pixel size

[somber stratus]

^

[velvet island]

Also for a telescope to be able to resolve them it would have to have an aperture of 100+ meters, which would be impossible to use at its potential under the atmosphere

[summer crypt]

so like not even visually?

just tell it apart from
the rest of the moon

[quick cairn]

I don’t think Hubble can

[quick cairn]

You guys just leave them outside?

Ooof

[velvet island]

You’d need around 70m of aperture to be able to distinguish the lander by a single pixel

[velvet island]

Hubble is like 28x too small for that lol

[quick cairn]

Well yeah but also no air

[velvet island]

Yeah imagine a 100m telescope under the atmosphere

The maximum it allows is around 0.6 meters

[heavy onyx]

You can't.

As mr cassegrain said,the barlow doesn't give you the ability to resolve smaller objects that you wouldn't be able to see normally.

[quick cairn]

Not true lol

I mean I don’t think, there are over meter scopes for a reason

If the math limited them, they wouldn’t make them

[velvet island]

Yeah but they are limited by the atmosphere

[quick cairn]

Are you saying that anything above 0.6 m is pointless?

[velvet island]

Probably more if they’re at high altitude

[velvet island]

No it’s not pointless lol

[quick cairn]

1,060mm scope here

[quick cairn]

Then what’s your point on that size?

[velvet island]

From most places you can’t really use telescopes larger than 20" at their full potential resolution

[velvet island]

That resolution is insane though

[winter moat]

AO

[summer crypt]

ddang...

[quick cairn]

I didn’t know adaptive optics worked on planatary

[winter moat]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/adaptive-optics

[velvet island]

o

[winter moat]

https://www.imagine-optic.com/products/ciao-adaptive-optics-system-for-telescope-and-space-applications/

[quick cairn]

Yeah that’s like a testing phase I think idek

You can’t buy it yet but it’s under a million haha

[velvet island]

Tom should try this if it ever gets accessible

[quick cairn]

Pffff some millionaire pull up

[somber stratus]

Meter class scopes aren't generally used for planetary, but rather DSO for increased signal. And the obsys that do image planets (usually in mid range IR) have adaptive optics or are interferometers. These observing missions like Pic Du Midi in 2017 are very rare. Also, I've played with the Pic Du Midi raw data and the final results get their detail from NIR. The visible wavelengths are very average, especially the blue and green filter data.

[somber stratus]

It's 80k, so no lol

[velvet island]

Maybe in 2050

[lyric bough]

This is 80 000 €

[quick cairn]

Don’t worry tom, if I win the lottery I’m buying us both ASA 1000’s and adaptive optics

Maybe 52” dobs actually

[elder venture]

"tom"....

thats an odd way to spell @elder venture

[velvet island]

52" dobs

[polar forge]

Round it up to a 60 for good measures

[quick cairn]

I don’t think they make 60”, but I have seen 50 inch

On this website

I’ll show you

[polar forge]

Only 27k

Do those people even do DSO?

[grave mountain]

Im selling mine :(

[quick cairn]

No that’s only the base

Not including mirror

[quick cairn]

What dude??? Why?

[grave mountain]

I need change

[summer crypt]

boi no way they’re using. 1500mm mak as a SPOTTER😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

MORE ACTUALLY

[polar forge]

400€

[quick cairn]

To what?

[robust plover]

Not the SCT as a finder scope 😭

[velvet island]

Money in french

[quick cairn]

Bro what no

He said he needs a change

[fathom wing]

Any feedback?

[velvet island]

It could mean I need money too

[fathom wing]

Damn libration difference in only 2 days

I love it

[quick cairn]

Sharpen slightly more

Actually don’t sharpen, do weiner

Try 75 and 110% brightness

[hybrid rain]

ritchardson lucy 🤤

[quick cairn]

Love it

[hybrid rain]

its amazing for deep sky too

[quick cairn]

This is 80 and 110%

Small but better

[fathom wing]

?

Where i can do it?

[quick cairn]

Astrosurface

[quick cairn]

Send the tiff

[fathom wing]

non processed?

[quick cairn]

No that photo

[fathom wing]

80% Weiner, in looks so much oversharpened

[quick cairn]

Well for the entire moon its up to you but i'd see how it looked at full fov not zoomed in

idk which is better lowk

you lowkk did good

Single stack IR642

good for a 10"

This is on an OCS camera, for anyone that has the Uranus – M, how much better would it have been with that?

[hybrid rain]

20-30%

[quick cairn]

I know the percent, but I mean realistically.

[hybrid rain]

somewhat noticable

[quick cairn]

Hopfully

I’m buying it soon

I like wavelet decomp for Saturn because it rotates so much slower than Jupiter

You can get lots of integration with NIR

[fathom wing]

I like how wavelets in siril work

[quick cairn]

Noise

Noice*

[summer crypt]

i would print it out and hang it on a wall

[fathom wing]

[fathom wing]

Final one

I do my best for this

[hybrid rain]

mueen

[olive saddle]

A Vixen brand SCT too, no less

crazy

[quiet glen]

All my good passes for css and iss are going to be covered by clouds by the look of it 😢

Hopefully I can get a little more of Jupiter

[winter moat]

very good :)

[grave mountain]

well I might be moving to Paris this summer

and if I ain't, I want to go EQ

and if I am, no space for it

[woven kite]

ig we waiting next month

[summer crypt]

hey can you please tell me how to focus on rhe moon? i’ve been trying to get a good image of the moon for days now

[dark cargo]

What telescope and camera are you using?
If it's a reflector, did you collimate it?

[summer crypt]

its a mak 127 and nikon d5100

i dont think its collimation because i literally cant collimate it

it has no screws

[dark cargo]

If it's a skywatcher one I think it is possible to do: https://www.cloudynights.com/forums/topic/959536-collimation-with-my-sw-127-mak/

However probably don't get too deep into it since as far as I remember maks hold collimation pretty well, so it's probably not the main issue.

With a DSLR you can usually just use the liveview to zoom into some crater shadow or the edge of the moon and focus on that feature, going in and out of focus until it looks as sharp as possible.

An issue you could be having is that when you click on the shutter button the vibration from your finger would affect the image. Try setting a delay before it actually captures the image if possible, I don't quite know how to do that with your specific cam, but should be in it's manual somewhere.

If you want to test collimation, take a picture of an unfocused star exactly in the center of your view and see how centered the shadow is in it.

Also if you are using a barlow or a diagonal, it's probably best to not use them just to make things simpler to figure out since they could be the issue.

btw do you have a picture of the moon as an example of what you are getting?

[summer crypt]

i do that maj

it doesn’t work

likr

[summer crypt]

look

blurry mess

[dark cargo]

is that a single frame or a stacked picture?

[summer crypt]

5 minute stack of the best 50%

[dark cargo]

Did you sharpen it in registax or something similar?

that many frames/pictures stacked together will look pretty bad unless you sharpen it.

You could easily use a much smaller % of frames to stack, since the moon is pretty bright so you won't have much noise

[summer crypt]

i tried but it just looked like the oversharpened emoji

[dark cargo]

try stacking around 50 of the best frames/pictures and see what happens, were you using registax to sharpen?

[shy jolt]

how long videos u guys recommend for shooting Venus?

[summer crypt]

yes

registax buns

[summer crypt]

this is cool but the moon occulates like a thousand stars every night, what makes this one so special

[flint siren]

This one isn't really special, the ft daylight was just cool.

I have one that's better regarding this coming.

[summer crypt]

yeah i agree its really cool lol

but like could you get an occulation of a nebula?

or galaxy

[flint siren]

Not unless it's stupid bright

Which they're not

[summer crypt]

but you dont even shoot them at the same time

they wouldn’t be in focus

[flint siren]

They would

It's just a contrast issue

[hybrid rain]

m42 you have like maybe a chance

you can just about shoot it in the day

[flint siren]

I don't think it's in the ecliptic

[hybrid rain]

maybe with an 850nm filter you will have a chance

[hybrid rain]

oh yea true

just wait for something to hit the moon hard enough to change its orbit

[summer crypt]

we die

[quick cairn]

M45 best options

[flint siren]

Yeah i was there when one time the Moon got into the pleiades at zenith, but i wasn't aiming for that at the time.

Though a star cluster is interesting, there's a way more interesting to do with stars occultation.

By the end of the day you'll see.

[quick cairn]

I remember that happing but was distracted by a girl… that night 😒

[woven kite]

someone here needs to try this. only photo i can find online is from a seestar and thats not during broad daylight. i would attempt this but my fov for c8 + asi662mc is too small and my dslr is not full spectrum

[hybrid rain]

i dont think i want to try

[woven kite]

thats like 25 degree separation its fine but oh well

[quiet glen]

I tried to stack a video of a lunar crater I got a few days ago but looks like a mess. I can’t even make out the moon. I tired to stabilize it in pipp but I didn’t really understand what I was doing so I probably didn’t do it correctly. Any help would be nice. I don’t have the image of it at the moment since I’m not home

[summer crypt]

been there, gotta make pipp save the stack as individual frames

switch from planetary to lunar/solar full disc or partial thingy

fixed it for me

[quiet glen]

I was using pipp to just align the frames then use auto stakkert to stack

Not sure if that correct for lunar

[shy jolt]

whats wrong?

u just have to turn the sun off

thats not a problem

[hybrid rain]

ah thanks i forgot

[quick cairn]

Did you run it through PIPP first?

[quiet glen]

Yes but I don’t think it did anything

[quick cairn]

Upload the video to a Google Drive and send it to me

Link

And give me permission to access it

[quiet glen]

Will do when I get home

[quick cairn]

Let me know

[quick cairn]

Can you do it now?

[quiet glen]

I am 27 minutes from home

The video is kinda bad tho since I wasn’t tracking

[quick cairn]

That’s okay

[quiet glen]

File is uploading

[quick cairn]

Okay cool

[quiet glen]

do you want me to dm you it or share it here

[quick cairn]

Here is fine

Just give me permission

How much longer?

[quiet glen]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f0f_6TvoR5HDezspOV1XqHBP0WO_HoOf/view?usp=drive_link

just finished

[quick cairn]

Can’t do it sorry, 6gb is way more than I can handle, will need to get home cuz I’m on a hotspot rn

[quiet glen]

thats fine

i can see if i can cut the video size

[quick cairn]

What’s the framerate?

I only need 3-4k frames

[quiet glen]

I shot at 112fps for like 2mins

ive never done lunar craters

does it only need a few thousand?

[quick cairn]

It’s a 3 and a half min video lol

[quiet glen]

oh

if i have a chance tonight ill do a video with like 4k frames

[quick cairn]

Okay cool

[quiet glen]

i think i finally kinda got it. did some proccessing but im not to happy

[quiet glen]

the stacking still is funky but i just cropped it

attempt 2

[quick cairn]

Awesome

[hybrid rain]

yummers

[quick cairn]

I just now realized before he blocked me he called my gf cute….. she’s a minor 💀💀💀

[quiet glen]

💔 stealing my work

Can’t even get Jupiter with a wide field refractor

If anyone wants proof they are mine I’m more than happy to show ☺️

[quick cairn]

Report them

[candid flare]

bash them

[hybrid rain]

slash them

[hybrid rain]

which server is this

[quiet glen]

Deep sky chaser

[hybrid rain]

can you invite me

[quiet glen]

Sure

[hybrid rain]

have you brought it up with the mods?

[quiet glen]

I just called them out haven’t talked to a mod yet

[hybrid rain]

ok

[quiet glen]

Not sure if there are even mods in the server

[hybrid rain]

ive dmed the owner with timestamps

[quiet glen]

Thank you

[hybrid rain]

hopefully they sort it

[quiet glen]

Yea

It happens eventually

[hasty hull]

Haha one time I had somebody on Instagram repost an image I took of Uranus without credit

It wasn’t even anything special lol pretty random image to steal, and the only astro image on the account if I remember correctly

[hybrid rain]

[hasty hull]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pallas-cat-manul-prinsessa-AE3uyAYB3Hl5TwMC6k

[hybrid rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130319439854850098/1505733019372355694/tenor.gif

[quick cairn]

I want a big dob so badly

[hasty hull]

You have a 10” right

[quiet glen]

My images aren’t even insanely good as well idk why they took mine

[hasty hull]

Astro imager canon event: getting your images randomly stolen by children on social media

[woven kite]

holy larp

[hasty hull]

that’s genuinely an insane person

[hybrid rain]

he is fucd in the head

[quick cairn]

Yes

Im considering buying a Hubble optics 18” goto

But I wouldn’t be able to afford it until I saved every penny from working over the summer + another month or two of work

[hasty hull]

11yo me encountering futuristichub on YouTube without knowing he’d later be an integral part of my niche corner of the internet

[hybrid rain]

something similar to this happened to me recently tbh

[quick cairn]

I think that a Hubble optics 16” and a Uranus-M is better than an 18” without a urnus m

I haven’t had people steal my work yet

Well, besides me but yall will get it later on

[hasty hull]

no way hold on gimme a sec

[quick cairn]

I lowkey kinda steal my own work

[hybrid rain]

found out someone that was running a humongous discord server in the linux community was a pedo, at some point when i was 14 i spoke to them regularly

[hybrid rain]

for like 1 year

[hasty hull]

Ouugh

[hybrid rain]

yeahh

[hybrid rain]

they were 30 caught sending stuff to a 15 ear old

[quick cairn]

I had inappropriate communication w a 19yr girl for a few months when I was 14

[hybrid rain]

(not me luckily, i was spared)

[quick cairn]

I would say it’s terrible but I’d dab up younger me

[hybrid rain]

[quick cairn]

Lowkey can’t believe I was 14, 6 years ago soon

[hybrid rain]

poor girl could have got into some shit

[hybrid rain]

FISH

[hasty hull]

u a victim twin

[woven kite]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-gif-6568025221394482814

[quick cairn]

Oh yeah but it didn’t rly effect me lowkey

[hasty hull]

https://giphy.com/gifs/thinking-cat-hmm-hmmm-uUnPYB37kLHvFnH4bi

[quick cairn]

Bro I am so tired of this damn weather

[hasty hull]

rainy day activities

[quick cairn]

Baddie

[hybrid rain]

stop that >:(

[quick cairn]

Yo, how long you been in the server?

[hasty hull]

2021 i think

[quick cairn]

Dm me

[hasty hull]

Shortly after it was made

[hybrid rain]

i cant even stand up for that long let alone do that

[quick cairn]

Haha

[hasty hull]

Training to push the earth closer to mars so I can image it sooner

[hybrid rain]

[sharp ridge]

Yeah bro 18" and 16" pretty much the same, and its gonna be much bigger as well

[quick cairn]

So just go 16, for it

[quiet glen]

If only I could afford it

[quick cairn]

Goto???

[quiet glen]

Yea

[quick cairn]

Send link

That’s so cheap

[quiet glen]

It’s in California

[quick cairn]

Darn

[quiet glen]

I think pick up only as well

[quick cairn]

WAIT ACTUALLY

THIS COULD BE GOOD

[quiet glen]

Shipping would be a lot of money

[quick cairn]

Send link in dm pls

[quiet glen]

Holy

[somber stratus]

"Celestron SkyWatcher", huh

[quiet glen]

Yea idk about that one

[quick cairn]

Saw that yeah

[quick cairn]

Lmao that’s kinda strange

[somber stratus]

8k for a goto 25" obsession is a good deal.

[quick cairn]

Yeah

If only I was 30

[quick cairn]

Crazy thing my dad is driving a uhaul to Cali this Tuesday

But he isn’t driving it back so nvm

[quiet glen]

Unfortunate

[quick cairn]

Yup

[quiet glen]

I would buy it if I had the money

[quick cairn]

Me too

[quiet glen]

How do you get your Jupiter image to look so smooth

[quick cairn]

Good seeing

[quiet glen]

this is my best image of jupiter

i need a barlow 💔

[woven kite]

get $10 celestron omni trust

[quiet glen]

thats what i have but its oversampling

so i dont use it

i need a 1.5x

[woven kite]

have you tried unscrewing the front part and screwing it direcrtly on the t mount it should give you around 1.5x

[quiet glen]

no i havent

i didnt even know i could take it appart

[woven kite]

this is my "1.5x barlow" i havent had good seeing to be able to test anything but the very front is the unscrewed 2x barlow element

[quiet glen]

how would i use my uv/ir cut filter tho

[woven kite]

ive tried screwing on the bottom of the t mount and it works but scuffed

but theres a part

https://www.highpointscientific.com/zwo-t2-to-125-filter-adapter-t2-1-25-3

[quiet glen]

Like this?

[woven kite]

yah

[quiet glen]

So it’s around a 1.5 now?