#Planetary Imaging
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Im telling you right now, you are going way too far. This is the definition of bullying
own up
Yeah can we stay on topic. The court case is irrelevant to Astro
He has no brain
should we talk about astro we can get to the other parts another day
One more for the road
i dont think that convo is going anywhere tbh
You realize that's defamation right. You can't openly say this
Is this you
you gonna threaten to sue me too lol?
Listen, by how you are all bullying this type of response is literally OK. Dno't blame me for fighting back against idiots
holy shit, to the d peach š
The big peach
After being served in the UK, Brian Martin began drinking and decided to call plaintiffs to voice his frustration. He gave permission for us to record the call. Please do not harass anybody involved.
can i get in on this legal action?
Before or after another gofundme
i donāt even live in the same country as you
Keep posting fake content
Hilarious
Like your images?
You guys realize this is actual bullying
Not even joking im going to have you banned
Just like we care
is your daddy the owner of discord or what
Oh no! The consequences of my own actions!!
Grown ass man being bullied by an aussie teen, a borderline unemployed 21 year old student, and like 5 furries
meow :3
Okay try
hey wtf
And just like that you guys don't care about planets. The shift in bullying is WILD
Grow up
Bigger fish to fry
Do you do deep space ?
I told you to grow TF up
Also why are you racist I feel like we didn't address this properly in the moment
pedophilia is just a little bit distracting
6 furries* mb
Fair warning all of your posts are being reported
You are clearly in the wrong
you were asked to stop
Do you do only planetary or dso as well
I do care about planets, did someone here image Nibiru? I'm trying to prove my conspiracy, thanks
I want to get into DSO more I think it would be fun.
Nah I think ChatGPT is still too obvious on DSO. Even for him.
Stop promoting fake screenshots dude.,
Why are you racist on top of all this I feel like you gotta pick a skill tree and spec into it
How am I racist
Brother
Wowzers.
Didnt you say the n word like 30 mins ago
Court stenographer please read back the remark- oh wait. Sorry that probably struck a little too close to home for you.
I dont think thats a good look
You guys need to stop posting fake screenshots past haters and trolls made up. This is not how you should be doing this. Its clearly bullying. do you not understand the trauma of that?

You are a pale dude.
yes racial slurs are generally racist
Ain't no way
are you black?
You softies are crazy
Here is his approximate skin tone
Peculiar
actual screenshot
Hey thatās my gif
Im Native American I can have the N pass.
he says after crying about being bullied for the past 3 hours
but what if hes transracial
My people in my tribe can have the N pass. I am Native American Chumash.
You blocked me on instagram
You blocked me first unless you're some other rando
You blocked me first
Way too white.
Youre missing out on hi res non ai generated Carina NGC3722 images
You blocked me first
You uhhhh, you looking at the court documents
"hi res" š„
Alright its quieted down i nbeed to scroll up and see what I missed on topic.
I try

Do you realize you're a genuine low cow ? @copper gazelle
chromedome
That boy got an f/2 mirror up there
Thing's got enhanced IR reflectivity
I am a legend thats all I care about it.
Do you have any live view or stack of this absolute banger of an image
For sure
Legend of being eith kids
Will anyone grieve you?
quit the pedo talk its getting old.
Unlike the people you date
Ok pedo
What do you know about getting old
Legendary low cow 
The jokes aren't even funny they are just sad
beat me to it
You think Pedophila is a joke is just crazy to see..
I'm tweaking off that CVS adderall and 600mg of cafeine I got my tongue out typing like the symbiote taking over my body
Pedofelie is your life
Mods, maybe just ban this pedo racist guy
I have already said we should stay on topic. I donāt think the personal life should be brought up.
However, I must say having seen various (real) screenshots from you Brian, threatening and outright insulting other imagers in DM for simply questioning your processing makes this whole āIām being bulliedā argument outrageously ironic.
Those are my 2 cents and can I say once again to everyone we should get back on topic.
This is a real jupiter
martin whats ur review
i agree
fair
not enough ai
I am aware that I lost my temper and I apolgized.
WHy don't you steal one of Tom's images
Literally chat gpt image bro, quit
U da real Jupiter Brian š
Unblock everyone you've blocked and apologise to them for your behaviour.
giant n gassy?
Mods clean this up already š„
bro giving ideas
mods hunt us for sport
I didn't block anyone other than one person who asked for it on insta. Are you him?
What did I just read
I dont block people.
You blocked me.
Accept me
Are you that one guy who asked for it? Cause thats the only one I remember
No
Can you tell me your username
@nova geyser Hey check out this message
Do it

saw his status pop up like a summoning
Just so Ben knows, thats not a bad message at all. I am being accused of being racist when I am not
Shows over folks
Hmmmm
Can we talk planets or not.
"not racist" hmmmm
farewell mr martin
Last
Thank you master.
i'm very surprised it took this long
HES GONE WHOOOOOO
Theyāre gone stop littering the channel for planetary astronomy now š
It's cause we are in the depths of hell where moderation is rare 
the depths of the depths that are astrobiscuit
I think a lot of niche community drama led to this moment and the mods let it play out
Dropping this in while I can.
I guess the globgalab has some creepy secrets.
Well, change of topic. @flint siren how do you collimate your C8? (I believe that's what you are using)
Ok now I can acc setup imaging for tonight
Using stars, with the shape of the airy disk.
It was useful from a standpoint of finding out his excuses on the stolen imagery, so thatās nice.
ok r/ap goblins go home
I can explain more if needed, once i'm home.
When are you formally looping in Salvatore?
Also shoutout to @nova geyser for not instantly shutting this thing down immediately when he found this and let it go on
Well, Damian and I were going to email today and ask to stay annoymous but looks like that last part is out the window
This was great. 8 months have been building to this. My apologies if I went overboard, now that he's gone.
On topic again, Jupiter was pretty tonight. Always interesting how the moon's positions change the diffraction pattern when looking at it naked eye. Kinda an odd effect
I'm sure he'll love to hear about all this.
I've got a few screen recordings if at all useful lol. Fascinating character. The human experience is so wide.
That would be nice. I do use the star shapes but I've seen a lot of different methods as well
It did feel a little like summoning mahoraga I'm ngl it felt cool https://tenor.com/view/megumi-fushiguro-ten-shadows-cursed-tecnhique-innate-summon-gif-7314075061044604464
Nice sun
orb
It was yesterday data, but I only have time to process it today XD, this was taken with 3 inch telescope and dslr, I can't do mosaic lol, somehow when I stitch it to the ICE, dunno what image did the software produce XD, this is my second attempt of capturing the sun, any feedback appreciated!
Sorry still not against our TOS 
i missed so much lore
Imaging Jupiter rn
Well that was wild
What is this diddy blud doing on biscuit server
is blud epstein?
Shit can I get a TL;DR 
I don't think we even have one for this
im just remembering all of this over and over again and this situation is so stupid
considering he was a very popular minecraft youtuber before... But okay, its in the past now. Lets talk real planets now
INSANE
Don't think I'll ever know a more remarkable personality in my lifetime.
||ngl i bypassed this logic by being attracted to older ppl (happened gradually since 17 ish) but not flirting with adults
so i immediately started liking 20~30s ppl when i turned adult||
spoilered cos astromerwan didn't wanted to know this
i didnt want to know that
i did
venus
Nice
edited so u can see it
Awww man I wish I could join ragebaiting him
Well, Iām not getting that 30 mins of reading back
Ngl this might not happen if he purely do imaging on its own and not stealing other people's images
what the frick happened
A conversation that'll become history of planetary imaging
big news for the drama farming channels documenting this lolcow
btw what even is a lolcow
Literally me
bad people whose lives are made worse by internet hawks to generate views and 'lols'
is elon musk a lolcow
depends who you ask
i think we should make elon's lives worse
agreed, i think an important part of the definition is that they become zoo animals, trapped in a transparent enclosure for onlookers amusement
i see
since elon still has power, its not exactly a zoo right?
also whos christan?
like i don't think there's been a day of chris chan's life that hasn't been archived and documented
we are the zoo animals for billionaires to marvel at
chris chan is an internet enigma for all the wrong reasons, which i don't even know a fraction of (and i never want to lol), because the lore for this one random person goes so deep for whatever reason
slowwwwwwwwwmooooooooooodddeeeeeeeeeeee
also ima post more planet pics (earth)
btw @novel ginkgo i think everyone has deep lore, including you
its just not documented so nobody knows, not even you
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lets be real
earth is planet
i imaged earth on earth and its lame
nasa imaged mars on mars and its pog
unfair imo
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Has begun
how reliable are flextube dobs when it comes to collimation?
I would say just about as reliable as you'd expect any other Newt to be.
This event was an unpredictably hilarious and horrifying rollercoaster to read in the morning, thank you everyone.
Here's my stitched image I took of the moon and Venus from 2024(?) I think, to stay on topic. I am reminded of how bad my processing skills were lol
What the hell happened here
This looks cool!!!
Moon and Venus BABAHAHA
Itās the user not the scope, with scopes a few thousand or more
was just thinking of the reliability of the extension mechanism
Dude, EVERYTHING happened. This is wild
As far as composites go, that's pretty cold. Minus the glare and it'll be even better.
Thanks, I did this about a year ago now
Agreed with Tom, though personally if it were me I'd leave some space between the sides of the visible portion of the moon and the edges of the image, so there aren't any eye-drawing tangents that distract from the main focus of the image. Gives the image a more floaty and natural vibe(?)
I think it's a very long story
Definitely this is an old image too, thanks though
little attempt on what tom did but didnt work because of seeing differences so same processing does this, also 10" apeture might not be enough for hour and 10 mins
You really need IR to see GRS rotation. OSC works for spotting the blue festoons moving in the EZ
Just to be clear @somber stratus you have contacted Salvatore about BM and he is not going to take any action??
yup
Are you opposed to the sharing of that blink comparison a bit wider? On other platforms? (Without your name attached or Damianās)
Not particularly, mainly due to the personal threats Iāve received. Others have access to it.
Is your first name Jim?
No, Craig⦠clue is in the handle!
guys why there are like 600 more messages when i was not there for like 12 hours
A lot Happend
Itās worth going back and catching up
I was here and missed it lol
My bad, a member of my astronomy club takes Jupiter photos like yours and it named Jim Craig so was asking
Why did I even leave this comment?
Strong processing verified. š¦¾
I love how you put a robot hand emoji instead of a human one
I was just about to showcase this part lol
Iām gonna try and edit one of my images following this workflow and see what I get š¤·āāļø
Again, just give us raw data thatās all it would take
I donāt want to get involved lol I just want to try the processing style lol
unless if theres built in ai in the sharpening tool i wont buy it
He used smart sharpen, my screen shot
I mean āsmart sharpenā isnāt really ai
What even is it
Itās just a sharpening tool in photoshop
Nothing really smart about it, and you canāt like add detail by using it, only bad texture, nothing you canāt get from registax
Is anyone here from england
Ok, I have absolutely no bread in any basket or opinions on certain individuals on how they process their images, to each is their own, and I plan to just image the planets how I enjoy imaging them š«”
In this video you see my best image of Jupiter I have ever taken at the start, something im proud of, now I emailed the raw stacks to Mr. Brian because the way he processed his imaged caught my eye as you would assume, and I have him 24 raw stacks of my data that I used to create that image of Jupiter as my own, he processed it in his own way that is very interesting i have to say š§
The data seems to appear like mine and have noise like a normal astro image of a planet should, but with detail that he was able to extract that I didn't know was there, it may be there, or it may not be there, I am not to say š¤·āāļø
In Mr. Brian's image, there do seem to be some difference like the scale of the image, and the angle (warp maybe?) of the planet. Compared to my stacks, which in my edit stay the same, as well as some small details that were added, not because they were very faint, but I didn't seem to notice anything in said locations at all for my image š¤·āāļø
Again, very interesting that he was able to pull supposed detail from my stacks. If his methods are legit, I find it quite interesting and possibly something to look into as a community, but for now, I will just keep imagining my own way and let others do their thing š
No hate to anyone, this individual seems to love the hobby and knows more than I do, but for now, I hope you enjoy the quick comparison š
here is the data in question from Feb 16th^
Those GRS swirls appearing out of nowhere tell me everything I need to know about the process, along with numerous other features popping in or out of existence all around the planet between the two versions.
While I don't consider the processing great, it's really not the biggest fish to fry as of recently.
What do you mean? Have I missed something?
thereās about 3000 messages for you to catch up on
The smart sharpen kinda ruin your image tbh...
One of his recent images was impossible for him to capture. The cloud features match perfectly with what European & African imagers captured one rotation earlier.
Yikes
#1019937457095065731 message
tldr: this person has harassed, threatened lawsuits, doxxed, stole data, made racist remarks, and been really weird to female members of the community
plus a couple days ago we found out this person is also a known pedophile who goes by the name āfuturistichubā, he has a history of this sort of stuff
Oooo yikes bro
Well it seems all that escalated quickly
Tom and Damian Peach are much more vague about it publicly on social media than here on Discord. There's good reasons for it.
yea ive seen sprinkles of their comments on facebook and such
that storm completely changes shape in the brian edit
I feel a lot of things completely changed shape
Yep
For planetary what would be better
w/ 2x Barlow, 533mc pro.
6ā skywatcher heritage 150p (dob w/horrible focuser) or a GSO RC6ā¦.
533mc pro is not for planetary
Get the uranus c or the mars c ii if your tighter on the budget. Also RCs are not for planetary, there for dso and just get a 8 inch dob at this point.
Feb 16th is completely and utterly irrelevant. March 19th is the offending image that has allegedly (most definitely) been stolen.
I would be very interested to see a similar comparison for then. I personally have compared Mr. Martinās image from March 19th to other US observers and the clouds move significantly.
Him showing he can apply some processing is completely irrelevant and doesnāt tackle the stolen data on one of his specific images. Doesnāt matter how real or fake the other ones are.
No
I want to use what I can before buying more stuff.
I have an sv305 pro planetary cam as well
For sure, I was just sharing things he has said
His awards on Astrobin have all been removed
Eh, I wouldāve handled it differently, but itās a step in the right direction. Especially the comments on improving the award selection process in planetary imaging.
Exactly, itās a step in the right direction and a small win at least. Sal understands that if Astrobin becomes awash with fake crap it becomes worthless
That part about award selection is key. In order to award expert planetary images you need expert planetary judges, which up to now I believe they didnāt have
Nope. And it's not the first time of asking I can tell you that. Ethan and I have been advocating it for years, well before this whole episode.
no, I don't believe we do have any. And any chance we had at having them might be gone now....
but you are very much on track and I've tried advocating for planetary folks on staff. I don't blame our team for this, they wouldn't know. That's why I actually think Sal's new feature might be fairly helpful in the short term.
We have the same cam planetary cam xD
Itās a piece of shit
Nope I'm happy with it
I used it as a guide cam and it didnt work properly. Would constantly disconnect. Luckily itll be fine for planetary
With photoshop
Idk if i see any rotation/movement there
what time period is this over? Doesn't look long enough of a time gap, and it's poorly aligned, as you've already alluded to.
^
iirc its an hour
Iād have to go back on the pc and check I think about an hour
good seeing tonight
love how this channel still has a 1 minute slow mode
thats the classic astrobiscuit mods moment wym, the slowmode length corresponds to how bad the event was, not if the thing is actually over
Ah well, if enough people bring it up then perhaps they'll change it back
Thanks seeing was pretty decent
thanks, i got some others too
can i edit the Data ?
Doesn't have to be now
sure you want the raw ser file or a 5% stack?
Stack
Are they pre-sharpened ?
No
lol
only mistake i made was usuing my color camera instead of mono, they would have been better lol
yea
here quick edit on my phone
Neatttt
They absolutely are pre-sharpened
They arenāt š
Oh wait I may have attached the wrong files š
Ok there, now the raw files from autostakkert are in there lol
Thanks
I like the framing
Same! Thanks, itās kinda hard to find a position that looks good when the moon is so far away lol
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Get a big scope
how big. I got a 2 6ā. Can I add them together for a 12ā 
Iām kidding, but seriously like how much big mirror
Uh, no
Preferably anything 8 and above, 8 is like the minimum in my opinion, I use an 11 inch
what can I get with a 6ā
I mean you can get results, just something like this, hold on lemme find it
Something along the lines of this, I got this with a 6 inch on like an average night
testetste
one two one two
Any Saturn?
Should I use my RC6 or 6ā dob. I hate untracked stuff and can only mount the rc6
Nice thanks mate
Here's Saturn with my 4.3" CCT
my cct has 43% Secondary mirror obstruction
check channel AstroRve on youtube he does untracked stuff with a 6"
and he did a lot of planetary
this is his for example
would you guys recommend p1 filters
Why
They're fine
Hey Tom, do you think youāve reached near limit with Mars or can you do better? Mars is a planet I havenāt gotten the chance to image with a good scope, only my first refractor. Your pinned instagram post is good but what are the star goals you have for mars?
These were with my untracked 6ā dob in 2023
How hard was ISS?
Woah! Thatās very impressive dude
Not too bad, this was at native 1200mm. I used a 610nm filter to brighten up the Solar Arrays, and this was an overhead pass with good seeing
I need to get it before they deorbit it
Definitely just give it a try anytime youāre out with your scope and notice a pass coming up
Even if you donāt nail it on the first try youāll know what to expect for the next one
Im curious if I should try my rc6 which I do use (now I do)
Yall in here say the RC6 isnāt for planetary, but like. Why not
Uhh what is the FL
yeah that should be just fine
Put a 2x or 3x Barlow on and youāll be set, given you have decent seeing and imaging train
I think I did the math, and a 2x Barlow is actually perfect with my 533 and rc6 for planetary
6ā of aperture is definitely underrated, obviously the bigger the better but people shouldnāt sleep on 6ā scopes for planetary
Absolutely. If my 4.5" StarBlast can see decent detail on Jupiter, one can imagine a 6" would provide even more detail, let alone an 8" or larger
6" telescopes used to be, comparably, really big too
Like, to the point people would drive long distances if they heard someone had a nice 6" Newtonian
not even necessarily to look through it, just looking at it
feedback please š
my dob is getting upgraded with onstep
ok thats really great
That particular image you reference is not at the limit.
There was a single stack much later in the apparition, I believe April 27th. That was diffraction limited, but Mars was at 5ā by then.
Stack and a single 7 millisecond exposure.
Mars has a vibe when itās not at a full phase
Wavelets could just be a bit harsh
Sometimes happens, just eats away at some darker details
alr ye
also got these.
amalthea
What's the timestamp here ?
260m wide Hill in copernicus
Hi yoship
how do i make my moon like that
Woahhh
i composite it in photoshop
Photoshop
thats not very specific guys š
all your missing is pluto lol
Try search in YT:"how to make hdr moon" There are plenty tutorial there, you can follow along!
How did you get such defined photos with a 6"
Saturn is perpetually too bright and tiny to see any real stuff through there, same with Jupiter
this was my question for Callisto!
calisto is really dim tho
Most of them get dark or change color when in front of the disk Iāve noticed
A different astronomy and space science
related image is featured each day, along with a brief explanation.
Stupid brains
Wavelets also act a bit in this.
Crazy
May I remind you. This is Pluto from Hubble
Iām curious what the original data looks like
Without the upscaled pixels
I was out basically every clear night that year. Caught every planet in good seeing at least a couple times, so I ended up with a very nice collection
And was doing it a lot then so my processing and acquisition wasnāt as rusty as it is now, hoping this year I can get some great stuff with the 12ā
It's right above the spherical projections.
honestly the fact that Hubble could resolve Pluto as a disc at all, and not just a singular pixel is awesome
it's like, the same resolution as Jupiter's Galilean moons taken with a decently average planetary AP rig
makes me wonder how Pluto would look to JWST, if it's even able to point at and track Pluto
probably not good (atleast compared to what New Horizons saw) but it might look interesting or unique
single
single
Do you need to derotate lunar data or just use a single stack
Noā¦
K
asi662mc first light
not bad
sharpcap was absolutely a mind blower
fire capture has live stacking too?
oh it does uhh
i havent done any research on firecapture
why would you want livestacking on firecapture
another batch. this one was a little underexposed
windy tonight
i bought uv ir and 685nm filter from p1 thats coming next week
give this a process
Here is my quick attempt
Very nice pic
The moon is tidally locked to us
A 260m wide Hill I resolved on copernicus
what happened here, how did you get double craters lol
what did you do to it
Stacking was weird
might be me but it looks really denoised compared to your other images
Derotated and bad seeing
Mine is in copernicus
Are we gonna ignore how compernicus got cloned?š
Thank Tom! My guy knows how to process woah!
Iāll try in a bit
outstanding data. just some simple curves cause my registax cannot handle it
it takes 5 seconds to see changes lol
Fantastic!
Yes seeing was very nice last night.
For the moon-
As you can see either I suck at process g or the seeing was bad but probably both
I feel like I focus so much on seeing for the planets that even having not the best seeing works so good on the moon compared to the planets
They are so friggen small
I would have left some more noise but thatās just me
Iām about to edit that thing you sent too
Oh I should note, this moon data was using a Astronomik pro planet 642nm pass filter and 1.33ms subs
About 12% of 5,000
I can always do it again but I try not to process bad seeing like crazy
Single subs
Looks pretty good to me?
Where's the bad seeing? I can't see how you get that detail on a single sub and cry about bad seeing.
What Iām saying
Can you put all of your stacks into a folder for me to derotate please
those 2 were the best stacks of the night
Ping me when you get the folder š
like 2 mins
W
yuh
Gime like 10-20 min
the jupiter w moon stacks gonna have worse snr because i did 1:15 vids for those at 100fps, and once the moon went behind i did 2 mins so
Seems like you have a lot of data in the moon stack
Personally I would have stacked a lesser percentage is seems
But thatās just me
12% of 5,000 frames?
Interesting
Sadly most of my moon files are like
Less than 4gb cuz thatās the max amount my sd card can transfer to my windows laptop š
Ye lol
i have a 2tb SSD
ill show you the one i got
Alr
like 200$ after tax
not terrible, can capture over a gb per second
thats a 1 tb wait
What percent was your jup again?
33%
Dang
why
I mean if you can get better snr then you should
Iām usually doing 10%
thats strange to be honest
Regardless 10-20
But everyone is different
Ive been taught that 30% is middle ground for bad or good seeing
There is no reason to want more noise yk š¤·āāļø
Well
Yea
It will just get derotated out
So I like the noise, cuz thatās detail, and it will get easily derotated out with 3 or more stacks
Thatās why my stacks are mad noisy
Cuz they come together very smoothly
I understand what youre saying, but signal = detail
if the conditions can handle it, higher percents will give you snr
but maybe you dont get good seeing much idk i dont either
Yea, I guess I prefer the noise and sharp frames over potential blurred signal tbh
š¤·āāļø
Who knows lol
Would have to ask someone with more experience
This is a wavelet single 95% stack
Its all about seeing really
same sharpen 95% with worse seeing
whatever works for you haha
Nice
do a 3percent stack
or do really short exposures
me with bad seeing/good seeing: "frick it, we ball, going 100 percent stacks"
idgaf, you want sharpness
I was more of proving a point but I agree yes
In bad seeing I do 20-25%, good seeing 30-40ish and amazing seeing I stack 50~ but it really depends
My go to amount is 33%
When I did lucky with my trapezium I used 20 percent and 150ms subs
Thatās deep sky dawg
It also depends on how many subs you have
For Jupiter I have roughly 8-10,000 per video
The right one was noisy, what causes that?
They had same 30 percent stack???
Best 30% vs Worst 30% of a same dataset
How do you know it's best and it's worst?
it's... written...
I.... Still don't get it
I think your stacking more images than you think, so the reason I keep it low is cuz Iām already stacking hundreds of frames and I want those faint details to be noise so they get derotated into detail
Again
Just how I do it
Right one was 100 percent stack
The left one definitely lower than 100 percent isn't it?
From a same video, the first image is the stack of the 30% best images of the dataset. The second is the 30% worst images. If this is your quality graph, then here's what represent those two stack rates.
^
The first one is not 100%, it's the best 30% of the video.
Wait... So you can choose which dataset it's the best in as3! ?
I didn't know that
No, the software only allows you to stack the x% best percentage of the video.
you have to do some manipulations in PIPP to get the bottom x%.
They probably had to export all the frame with quality sorted and then stacked the 30% worst of images.
ye

The file name says 100% because the video that AS3 was fed, was a cropped version of the quality-sorted vid. Not that it's important how to do it.
Was just showing how lucky imaging works and comparing the sharpest 30% of frames vs the worst 30% of frames in the same original capture video.
SNR is the same for both. The perceived noise on the left is better due to increased contrast that seeing provides. The total integration time is identical.
alright i got the perfect example of this, i have a bad seeing over here, by doing the lucky imaging here, how do i know which one is the best and the worst
what i see right now the 40-45 percent of the bottom is quite good? so i just put the frame percentage to stack to 40?
im sorry guys, just wanna understand what i dont
i see now....
alright thanks
ahhhh so the pipp is the thing for sorting
i see now
Iāve been told that you want to go for 3 to 4000 frames. In good seeing
Idk I mean try it out sometime though
Try stacking only the best of the best
Not the best of the best and then the second best that follow that lol
Might help idk
I have tried many different ways. But I keep my raw videos so Iāll look into it.
Alright nice
Cuz for me like I said
Keeping that noisy detail high in the stacks
And stacking less frames which result in only the good ones
I get what youāre saying, however, that is your best day ever. I feel it is more seeing dependent than the percent you
Allows you derotate a lot more finer details rather then them getting smudged due to iffy frames
Well I do that workflow regardless
Right
For sure
To be clear, noise in itself is not GOOD, but in bad or mid seeing noisy details help, my point is in good seeing you donāt need to have noisy detail because you just have detail
For the big stuff, but thereās always smaller storms and smaller strands you can pick up on jup
It depends on your aperture as well
See you have to be carful with low SNR, something you see as a storm could just be random noise on that small of levels
Well thatās why you derotate
You essentially get a noiseless image straight from winjupos
I think we both may be a little confused, Ethan, Ken, Tom. Any consensus?
I was under the impression derotation helps edges and SNR
It does, that's the whole point...
Edges are helped somewhat because it kind off removes edge rind over long integrations, and SNR is literally why you do it in the first place.
Right
The question is maybe poorly asked.
Well I donāt really know what the argument is, itās about percents for stacking I guess
My point is itās seeing dependent
Yeah but for every type of seeing you'll have a above average amount of frame that you want to stack..
Snr definitely, edges imo its worse with winjupos without blending or burn/dodge. But with LSW yes it does improve edges as well
With consistent seeing that amount grows
Thatās what Iām saying
My understanding is, correct me if Iām wrong, but Kenny is saying he believes that stacking lower percents like 10% is better in good seeing
That's why there's no perfectly optimal percentage of frame for all dataset
Right
It's not better, you just loose SNR.
With better seeing you stack more %s.
I believe that, in good seeing stacking higher percents for better SNR
That's the whole point.
No need to be a belief, that's the very point of good seeing.
I know that, ultimately Iām saying i ābelieveā so that it does not sound like I know everything
Along with maybe sharper frames on average, the real deal is consistency.
It comes to what percentage is diffraction limited/sharp enough. If seeing is bad then only 10% is good enough, but if seeing is good, 30% is of similar sharpness. This means better snr. Realistically, if seeing is bad you might have to stack 1% to get the same sharpness but you stack more for snr but worse sharpness as compromise
Maybe thatās what I was trying to say then. And Kenny misunderstood, but yes this is how it works from my understanding
The human eye is really good at resolving details in things that we're familiar with, brain sort of fills in details when the eyes can't see something perfectly. It's why the moon looks oddly better in real time than it does in photo, because our eyes kind of "live-stack" as we look at something, even if only for a little bit.
Planets are just too small and unfamiliar, and they're too affected by seeing conditions for your eyes to do that pseudo live-stacking. Unless however, you have an absolutely gargantuan telescope with smooth tracking, and can get stupidly high magnification on the planets, under fantastic seeing conditions. Then your eyes and brain start doing that weird thing, and the view suddenly feels sharper than it's supposed to be.
This effect also occurs with animations
yeah!
Precisely

I think Kenny is missing the idea that you donāt have to derotate for good SNR alone if you have very good consistent seeing. Yes derotation is good because it helps edges, but you can get the same result without doing it in terms of sharpness and SNR
Tbh Iām probably missing a lot lol
No hate just sharing experiences
Me neither !
Regulus coming out of occultation.
Cool
Mono IR850 luminance with ASI183MM Pro, RGB colors with Uranus-C. Seeing was absolute garbage.
Noice
Looks a a bit like old video gamesā rendering
1 hour rotation
Awesome seeing
damn how many gbs?
uhh 18 panels at 2.4 gb a panel maybe
2.25 actually
i need a ssd or something so i can record more data
Today sun, have to manually stitch them. _.
ICE doesn't wanna stitch them apparently
Hey tom, what wavelet settings would you use on astrosurface to derotate this data?
For batch wavelets
I have 27 stacks
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Nice bro
thankss
How'd you make a video like that? You set it to make 10 seconds of video every 1 minute or ?
What?
Like a GIF where Jupiter rotates š
I just import my stacks into CapCut and set their duration to like 0.2 seconds per image
Alright. And how many stacks do you make?
Idk how ever many you take
I mean i can get a good amount. Got the Eq6R in that case. Say i make a "stack " every 3 minutes? Stack is equal to 30 second video. Would that work?
Well for Jupiter you want to take 1 minute videos back to back to back
Gotcha. So around 120 videos of 1 minute... i hope i have enough storage for 2 hour rotation.
I mean 120 is a lot
It all just depends
If you want 2 hours do a video every 5 minutes
But if you want a smooth and short animation do 30 1 minute videos
It all just depends what you want
thanks kenny
Yep
Can I get everyoneās advice for settings for my Uranus-c for ISS. I also have nir filter to help seeing. Let me know.
10ā skywatcher
type of seeing that happens during one in a few years events (or its cloudy)
mars occultation
That's very real actually, 2024 Saturn's occultation was just as shit.
I was lucky enough to catch one in 2025 and a near one in 2022
Did a bit of processing on an old moon image this how it turned
@livid sierra @thick heron, Tom, any advice for a 10ā F/5 for the ISS? Iām at 1200mm, exposure and gain? With Uranus C?
Iāve imaged the ISS once ever.
Iām orange now
Hi Orange! š
@low oar @quick cairn welcome to nerd club
can a guy like me get iy
You spend too much time in general
yea, but when I do that, I talk mostly about astro
I have highly refined my skills, pushed the limits of untracked
got 15+ mag targets and 6 stars in trapezium untracked
Iāll consider it
thanks
i check back in in a few hours to see if a decision has been made
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Thanks man!
Update, I captured the ISS.
Brown dwarf wow xD
Solid
Should I have used NIR?
Very easy to underestimate how bright it can be, I almost always end up with some overexposed pixels
Generally the solar arrays will be brighter relatively so it would help
That way all of the station will be of a similar brightness
I have 685nm pass, 642nm pass, and 850nn pass
however i will need to increase exposer so less frames
I used 0.5 ms exosure and auto gain for this one, and UV/IR cut
got about 300 frames, AS4 works but its all so bright it doesnt really do anything
I usually go for about 0.25ms or so
May you share your photos? whats your aperture
Though I do image at 4500mm
I assume you track it
What is your method
I have a 5x (I think) finderscope thatās pretty accurately aligned, just a matter of being able to smoothly slew the scope around following itās pace
A telrad is better for the ISS though
thats exactly what i do
Itās been like a year and a half since Iāve had a solid attempt at the ISS but I know I donāt end up having thattt many usable frames
I take all of the frames PIPP detects with the iss, and export them as tiffs, and hand select the frames that are sharp and the ISS doesnāt change much between to stack
Probably not too much more to get out of that, looks really nice though for a first attempt
Same Iāve been slacking, now I wanna try a flyover lol
single stack from a few mins after
No Iss flyovers coming up but do have a few Tiangong opportunities soon which is always interesting
Ive never seen tiangong
It is a little smaller angularly but imaging it works exactly the same
Maybe a little dimmer
cool!
This was with my 6ā at 1200mm, I havenāt done it with the 12 yet
yeah my 10" is F/5 and 1200mm
nice
tiangong is underrated
theres only a handful of images on astrobin
I know duif has some
I think part of the reason for that is due to it's lower orbital inclination of ~40 degrees, so most of europe and a decent chunk of the US is too high to get a good pass of it.
this makes sense
whole uk not getting anything
Just 
what classes as "good at masking"
I'm not entirley sure, I see people process the moon and shadow seperate from the rest of the planet, thats what I mean.
Yeah pretty standard if you derotate. Need to fix the artifacts.
LSW 
shoosh you.
also why is my name pink
Indeed. I have photoshop. Any YouTube videos you recommend over others? For this type of stuff I feel like itās so niche
I havent tried LS4 much but it didnt do very well for me.
I think you can be more precise with winjupos
its april fools
i was really happy that i thought i got meganerd somehow
Can i get to keep the meganerd ? 
Anyone here know if they are able to image the orion capsule from their location?
Capsule?
Would love to try, but.
Did I say something wrong?
No I just donāt know what that is
Nooo, I havenāt done any calculations yet but thereās a chance I might be able to
Itās not the nebula right
The capsule taking people to the moon
all depends on location
And itās moving slow and itās far from earth so it wouldnāt be like the iss
DAMNIT BRO Iām backpacking all weekend starting Thursday
Were you using the script from that guy on YT
Idk some dude made a script for Stellarium
Thatās cool
Enjoy, itāll be the only time
Real
imaging the iss and screwing up the exposure is a canon event
Probably not since iām in the netherlands.
gleegle! bab tok uron blotebab eselith blet tobfur droka galdeb tregto bonx Planetary Imaging dulktho, hask tok frubse blet halla geb worron bersta dallan blet deek tok "Earth" swao buntle, ghant tok mingala prote eeb ablok sleyu vonta.
Aciston: 8.5 mitnues
Derig: 300uu t/5 "Newtonian" teosop deek la "Player One" ingami macerna
Boloot 4, treken belu swao huidok dersa "Valles Marineris" trok, telpon tok blet halla.
grobfalta!
tf is that languageg
Lets hope something decent comes out of it
Can I give you advice
Film at 10ms frames, make the ROI much smaller than that unless you want moons, and click on tools above you and click histogram and box in Jupiter and increase gain only until itās between 80-90%
Also output ser files
I promise youāll get better images like that
Niice
good composition coming tonight
yeah
what are you doing in space get off there blud
Nah but really it's so awesome it could pass for an image from space
For anyone who doesn't want to spend time converting here is the image in png
ik
png's are compressed
it's just for people who just want to see it but not process it
Now that is fire
Some people could do better
There's always someone who'll do better
and that's exactly why you don't compare yourself to others
compare yourself to your past
good point
and you're going to see how much you improved
See this?
THIS, was my first picture of jupiter
And this is what it's looking like now
Now, if you compare it to this, you're obviously going to say mine is wors
That's exactly the reason you don't compare yourself to the ones who are better
if just makes you look bad
My first photos of Jupiter
and if you compare yourself to the ones who are worse, that just builds ego
That was the day you became addicted
Me now
Bro actually lives in mars š
That is certainly some improvement
I meant these
Someday I wanna get here
ohhh, Celestron starsense 80 AZ
So 80mm?
yes very bad shitty made refractor
And now you got 10 inches (or 250mm)
This was the best I got out of the 80mm
For 80mm it's certainly impressive
Its something
kinda looks like the ones i took
My next purchase will be a 16 or 20
yeah
actually it took me just 3 months to go from that shitty image to my current level
That ccd really helped a lot
that was about the same time span for me until i got my 6"
Prob astronomy one of the few areas where you can buy skill
cant buy processing
This was the best photos I got out of the 6ā
I can see it was the same night
Pixinsite better for dso but yeah
Same data yeah
Got the ISS for the first time yesterday
From what i've investigated next saturn opposition will be enough to see the cassini division so i'll try to catch ut
Can see the solar pannels
yeah was way over exposed
i think i accidentally captured it yesterday but i wasn't recording
crazy
i was just watching beutelguese and saw 2 satellites pass before seeing a massive bright one
and when i checked the iss had just passed near orion
could be
Ye it just rose
it just rose where i live too
Nice
Wild