#Planetary Imaging

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novel ginkgo
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being a pedophile is gonna haunt you for the rest of your life

copper gazelle
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Im telling you right now, you are going way too far. This is the definition of bullying

novel ginkgo
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own up

somber stratus
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Yeah can we stay on topic. The court case is irrelevant to Astro

winter moat
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He has no brain

high hull
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should we talk about astro we can get to the other parts another day

uncut glade
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One more for the road

high hull
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i dont think that convo is going anywhere tbh

copper gazelle
novel ginkgo
copper gazelle
# hasty hull Is this you

Listen, by how you are all bullying this type of response is literally OK. Dno't blame me for fighting back against idiots

wild rose
rich seal
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The big peach

echo lion
wild rose
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can i get in on this legal action?

uncut glade
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Before or after another gofundme

novel ginkgo
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i don’t even live in the same country as you

copper gazelle
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Keep posting fake content

terse night
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Hilarious

uncut glade
copper gazelle
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You guys realize this is actual bullying

copper gazelle
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Not even joking im going to have you banned

flint siren
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Just like we care

copper gazelle
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Not even right

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Quit it

wild rose
candid flare
uncut glade
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Grown ass man being bullied by an aussie teen, a borderline unemployed 21 year old student, and like 5 furries

high hull
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meow :3

uncut glade
copper gazelle
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And just like that you guys don't care about planets. The shift in bullying is WILD

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Grow up

hasty hull
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Bigger fish to fry

copper gazelle
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I told you to grow TF up

uncut glade
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Also why are you racist I feel like we didn't address this properly in the moment

copper gazelle
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This isn't a debate

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Grow up

wild rose
uncut glade
copper gazelle
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Fair warning all of your posts are being reported

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You are clearly in the wrong

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you were asked to stop

lean hearth
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Do you do only planetary or dso as well

terse night
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I do care about planets, did someone here image Nibiru? I'm trying to prove my conspiracy, thanks

copper gazelle
novel ginkgo
weary dagger
copper gazelle
uncut glade
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Why are you racist on top of all this I feel like you gotta pick a skill tree and spec into it

ebon sage
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Brother

somber stratus
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Wowzers.

lean hearth
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Didnt you say the n word like 30 mins ago

uncut glade
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YEP!

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I linked the message too!

weary dagger
lean hearth
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I dont think thats a good look

winter moat
copper gazelle
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You guys need to stop posting fake screenshots past haters and trolls made up. This is not how you should be doing this. Its clearly bullying. do you not understand the trauma of that?

ebon sage
candid flare
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You are a pale dude.

echo lion
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yes racial slurs are generally racist

copper gazelle
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THAT is a slur

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Grow a pair

ebon sage
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Ain't no way

echo lion
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are you black?

copper gazelle
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You softies are crazy

winter moat
uncut glade
terse night
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Peculiar

uncut glade
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actual screenshot

copper gazelle
proven swan
echo lion
copper gazelle
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My people in my tribe can have the N pass. I am Native American Chumash.

candid flare
copper gazelle
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You blocked me first unless you're some other rando

uncut glade
copper gazelle
candid flare
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Youre missing out on hi res non ai generated Carina NGC3722 images

candid flare
uncut glade
terse night
copper gazelle
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Alright its quieted down i nbeed to scroll up and see what I missed on topic.

candid flare
flint siren
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Do you realize you're a genuine low cow ? @copper gazelle

uncut glade
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That boy got an f/2 mirror up there

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Thing's got enhanced IR reflectivity

copper gazelle
hasty hull
flint siren
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For sure

candid flare
uncut glade
copper gazelle
uncut glade
candid flare
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Ok pedo

rich seal
flint siren
copper gazelle
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The jokes aren't even funny they are just sad

wild rose
copper gazelle
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You think Pedophila is a joke is just crazy to see..

uncut glade
# wild rose beat me to it

I'm tweaking off that CVS adderall and 600mg of cafeine I got my tongue out typing like the symbiote taking over my body

copper gazelle
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do you take that serious?

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Show me a photo of a planet or something.

winter moat
fathom wing
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Mods, maybe just ban this pedo racist guy

somber stratus
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I have already said we should stay on topic. I don’t think the personal life should be brought up.

However, I must say having seen various (real) screenshots from you Brian, threatening and outright insulting other imagers in DM for simply questioning your processing makes this whole ā€œI’m being bulliedā€ argument outrageously ironic.

Those are my 2 cents and can I say once again to everyone we should get back on topic.

candid flare
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This is a real jupiter

high hull
uncut glade
copper gazelle
uncut glade
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WHy don't you steal one of Tom's images

terse night
rich seal
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U da real Jupiter Brian šŸ˜‹

candid flare
wild rose
flint siren
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Mods clean this up already šŸ„€

rich seal
high hull
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mods hunt us for sport

copper gazelle
ebon rampart
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What did I just read

copper gazelle
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I dont block people.

lean hearth
copper gazelle
candid flare
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No

copper gazelle
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Can you tell me your username

uncut glade
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@nova geyser Hey check out this message

flint siren
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Do it

high hull
wild rose
copper gazelle
nova geyser
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Shows over folks

winter moat
copper gazelle
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Can we talk planets or not.

high hull
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farewell mr martin

candid flare
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Last

somber stratus
astral wigeon
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i'm very surprised it took this long

candid flare
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HES GONE WHOOOOOO

ebon rampart
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They’re gone stop littering the channel for planetary astronomy now 😭

terse night
astral wigeon
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the depths of the depths that are astrobiscuit

main flume
thick heron
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Dropping this in while I can.

teal sandal
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I guess the globgalab has some creepy secrets.

terse night
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Well, change of topic. @flint siren how do you collimate your C8? (I believe that's what you are using)

candid flare
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Ok now I can acc setup imaging for tonight

flint siren
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Using stars, with the shape of the airy disk.

somber stratus
high hull
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ok r/ap goblins go home

flint siren
thick heron
candid flare
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Also shoutout to @nova geyser for not instantly shutting this thing down immediately when he found this and let it go on

somber stratus
uncut glade
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This was great. 8 months have been building to this. My apologies if I went overboard, now that he's gone.
On topic again, Jupiter was pretty tonight. Always interesting how the moon's positions change the diffraction pattern when looking at it naked eye. Kinda an odd effect

thick heron
uncut glade
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I've got a few screen recordings if at all useful lol. Fascinating character. The human experience is so wide.

terse night
rain mauve
candid flare
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Nice sun

uncut glade
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orb

rain mauve
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It was yesterday data, but I only have time to process it today XD, this was taken with 3 inch telescope and dslr, I can't do mosaic lol, somehow when I stitch it to the ICE, dunno what image did the software produce XD, this is my second attempt of capturing the sun, any feedback appreciated!

fierce rune
lyric bough
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i missed so much lore

signal holly
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black hole sun

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black hole mun

untold spear
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Imaging Jupiter rn

quick cairn
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Well that was wild

untold spear
fathom wing
elder venture
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What the FLIP happened

candid flare
lean island
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Shit can I get a TL;DR Roblox_MADwithJOY

candid flare
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I don't think we even have one for this

teal sandal
# candid flare

im just remembering all of this over and over again and this situation is so stupid

teal sandal
grave mountain
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INSANE

somber stratus
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Don't think I'll ever know a more remarkable personality in my lifetime.

graceful creek
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||ngl i bypassed this logic by being attracted to older ppl (happened gradually since 17 ish) but not flirting with adults

so i immediately started liking 20~30s ppl when i turned adult||

spoilered cos astromerwan didn't wanted to know this

grave mountain
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i didnt want to know that

high hull
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i did

graceful creek
winter moat
graceful creek
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edited so u can see it

untold spear
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Awww man I wish I could join ragebaiting him

quick cairn
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Well, I’m not getting that 30 mins of reading back

untold spear
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Ngl this might not happen if he purely do imaging on its own and not stealing other people's images

graceful creek
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what the frick happened

untold spear
novel ginkgo
graceful creek
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btw what even is a lolcow

untold spear
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Literally me

novel ginkgo
novel ginkgo
graceful creek
novel ginkgo
graceful creek
novel ginkgo
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like i don't think there's been a day of chris chan's life that hasn't been archived and documented

novel ginkgo
graceful creek
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also ima post more planet pics (earth)

btw @novel ginkgo i think everyone has deep lore, including you

its just not documented so nobody knows, not even you

quick cairn
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😭

graceful creek
# quick cairn 😭

lets be real

earth is planet

i imaged earth on earth and its lame
nasa imaged mars on mars and its pog

unfair imo

quick cairn
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🤣

graceful creek
quick cairn
teal sandal
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how reliable are flextube dobs when it comes to collimation?

livid sierra
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I would say just about as reliable as you'd expect any other Newt to be.

olive saddle
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This event was an unpredictably hilarious and horrifying rollercoaster to read in the morning, thank you everyone.

Here's my stitched image I took of the moon and Venus from 2024(?) I think, to stay on topic. I am reminded of how bad my processing skills were lol

coarse aspen
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What the hell happened here

quick cairn
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Moon and Venus BABAHAHA

quick cairn
teal sandal
olive saddle
low oar
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I did that once

somber stratus
# low oar

As far as composites go, that's pretty cold. Minus the glare and it'll be even better.

graceful creek
# low oar

dont talk to me or my son ever again type image

low oar
olive saddle
# low oar

Agreed with Tom, though personally if it were me I'd leave some space between the sides of the visible portion of the moon and the edges of the image, so there aren't any eye-drawing tangents that distract from the main focus of the image. Gives the image a more floaty and natural vibe(?)

fathom wing
low oar
quick cairn
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little attempt on what tom did but didnt work because of seeing differences so same processing does this, also 10" apeture might not be enough for hour and 10 mins

somber stratus
peak bobcat
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Just to be clear @somber stratus you have contacted Salvatore about BM and he is not going to take any action??

peak bobcat
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Are you opposed to the sharing of that blink comparison a bit wider? On other platforms? (Without your name attached or Damian’s)

somber stratus
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Not particularly, mainly due to the personal threats I’ve received. Others have access to it.

peak bobcat
shy jolt
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guys why there are like 600 more messages when i was not there for like 12 hours

winter moat
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A lot Happend

peak bobcat
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It’s worth going back and catching up

low oar
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I was here and missed it lol

quick cairn
teal sandal
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Why did I even leave this comment?kekw

thick heron
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Strong processing verified. 🦾

teal sandal
teal sandal
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Read from the second picture

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He didn’t know what derotation was a few days ago

low oar
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I was just about to showcase this part lol

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I’m gonna try and edit one of my images following this workflow and see what I get šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

quick cairn
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Again, just give us raw data that’s all it would take

low oar
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I don’t want to get involved lol I just want to try the processing style lol

woven kite
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unless if theres built in ai in the sharpening tool i wont buy it

quick cairn
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He used smart sharpen, my screen shot

low oar
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I mean ā€œsmart sharpenā€ isn’t really ai

hasty hull
low oar
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It’s just a sharpening tool in photoshop

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Nothing really smart about it, and you can’t like add detail by using it, only bad texture, nothing you can’t get from registax

silent mesa
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Is anyone here from england

low oar
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Ok, I have absolutely no bread in any basket or opinions on certain individuals on how they process their images, to each is their own, and I plan to just image the planets how I enjoy imaging them 🫔

In this video you see my best image of Jupiter I have ever taken at the start, something im proud of, now I emailed the raw stacks to Mr. Brian because the way he processed his imaged caught my eye as you would assume, and I have him 24 raw stacks of my data that I used to create that image of Jupiter as my own, he processed it in his own way that is very interesting i have to say 🧐

The data seems to appear like mine and have noise like a normal astro image of a planet should, but with detail that he was able to extract that I didn't know was there, it may be there, or it may not be there, I am not to say šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

In Mr. Brian's image, there do seem to be some difference like the scale of the image, and the angle (warp maybe?) of the planet. Compared to my stacks, which in my edit stay the same, as well as some small details that were added, not because they were very faint, but I didn't seem to notice anything in said locations at all for my image šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

Again, very interesting that he was able to pull supposed detail from my stacks. If his methods are legit, I find it quite interesting and possibly something to look into as a community, but for now, I will just keep imagining my own way and let others do their thing šŸ‘Œ

No hate to anyone, this individual seems to love the hobby and knows more than I do, but for now, I hope you enjoy the quick comparison šŸ‘

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here is the data in question from Feb 16th^

thick heron
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Those GRS swirls appearing out of nowhere tell me everything I need to know about the process, along with numerous other features popping in or out of existence all around the planet between the two versions.

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While I don't consider the processing great, it's really not the biggest fish to fry as of recently.

low oar
novel ginkgo
rain mauve
thick heron
low oar
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Yikes

thick heron
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#1019937457095065731 message

novel ginkgo
# novel ginkgo there’s about 3000 messages for you to catch up on

tldr: this person has harassed, threatened lawsuits, doxxed, stole data, made racist remarks, and been really weird to female members of the community

plus a couple days ago we found out this person is also a known pedophile who goes by the name ā€œfuturistichubā€, he has a history of this sort of stuff

low oar
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Well it seems all that escalated quickly

thick heron
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Tom and Damian Peach are much more vague about it publicly on social media than here on Discord. There's good reasons for it.

low oar
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yea ive seen sprinkles of their comments on facebook and such

high hull
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that storm completely changes shape in the brian edit

low oar
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I feel a lot of things completely changed shape

quick cairn
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Yep

candid flare
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He didn't know Jupiter's storm move btw

quick cairn
unique furnace
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For planetary what would be better

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w/ 2x Barlow, 533mc pro.

6ā€ skywatcher heritage 150p (dob w/horrible focuser) or a GSO RC6….

marsh elbow
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Get the uranus c or the mars c ii if your tighter on the budget. Also RCs are not for planetary, there for dso and just get a 8 inch dob at this point.

somber stratus
# low oar here is the data in question from Feb 16th^

Feb 16th is completely and utterly irrelevant. March 19th is the offending image that has allegedly (most definitely) been stolen.

I would be very interested to see a similar comparison for then. I personally have compared Mr. Martin’s image from March 19th to other US observers and the clouds move significantly.

somber stratus
# quick cairn

Him showing he can apply some processing is completely irrelevant and doesn’t tackle the stolen data on one of his specific images. Doesn’t matter how real or fake the other ones are.

unique furnace
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I want to use what I can before buying more stuff.

I have an sv305 pro planetary cam as well

quick cairn
peak bobcat
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His awards on Astrobin have all been removed

somber stratus
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Eh, I would’ve handled it differently, but it’s a step in the right direction. Especially the comments on improving the award selection process in planetary imaging.

peak bobcat
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Exactly, it’s a step in the right direction and a small win at least. Sal understands that if Astrobin becomes awash with fake crap it becomes worthless

peak bobcat
somber stratus
vague nexus
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but you are very much on track and I've tried advocating for planetary folks on staff. I don't blame our team for this, they wouldn't know. That's why I actually think Sal's new feature might be fairly helpful in the short term.

rain mauve
unique furnace
rain mauve
unique furnace
quick cairn
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@sharp ridge your data

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hey tom, how did you center the eye?

flint siren
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With photoshop

sharp ridge
somber stratus
low oar
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^

sharp ridge
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iirc its an hour

quick cairn
low oar
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good seeing tonight

candid flare
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love how this channel still has a 1 minute slow mode

high hull
olive saddle
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Ah well, if enough people bring it up then perhaps they'll change it back

low oar
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coming soon!

winter moat
peak bobcat
low oar
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Thanks seeing was pretty decent

low oar
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i got some crazy lunar data too

winter moat
low oar
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thanks, i got some others too

winter moat
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can i edit the Data ?
Doesn't have to be now

low oar
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sure you want the raw ser file or a 5% stack?

winter moat
low oar
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alright

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i have a lot more i havent added yet though

winter moat
low oar
low oar
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lol

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only mistake i made was usuing my color camera instead of mono, they would have been better lol

winter moat
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here quick edit on my phone

low oar
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Neatttt

flint siren
low oar
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Oh wait I may have attached the wrong files šŸ˜‚

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Ok there, now the raw files from autostakkert are in there lol

low oar
winter moat
low oar
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Thanks

winter moat
low oar
unique furnace
low oar
unique furnace
low oar
unique furnace
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I’m kidding, but seriously like how much big mirror

low oar
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Uh, no

low oar
unique furnace
low oar
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Something along the lines of this, I got this with a 6 inch on like an average night

proper girder
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one two one two

unique furnace
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Should I use my RC6 or 6ā€ dob. I hate untracked stuff and can only mount the rc6

low oar
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I got slowmode removed for us!

winter moat
winter moat
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my cct has 43% Secondary mirror obstruction

shy jolt
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and he did a lot of planetary

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this is his for example

shy jolt
# low oar

this makes me want to do lunar very badly

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sad that i can t

woven kite
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would you guys recommend p1 filters

low oar
candid flare
quick cairn
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Hey Tom, do you think you’ve reached near limit with Mars or can you do better? Mars is a planet I haven’t gotten the chance to image with a good scope, only my first refractor. Your pinned instagram post is good but what are the star goals you have for mars?

hasty hull
unique furnace
low oar
hasty hull
# unique furnace How hard was ISS?

Not too bad, this was at native 1200mm. I used a 610nm filter to brighten up the Solar Arrays, and this was an overhead pass with good seeing

unique furnace
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I need to get it before they deorbit it

hasty hull
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Definitely just give it a try anytime you’re out with your scope and notice a pass coming up

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Even if you don’t nail it on the first try you’ll know what to expect for the next one

unique furnace
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I haven’t setup my dob in years

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lol

hasty hull
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Ah

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It yearns for exercise

unique furnace
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Im curious if I should try my rc6 which I do use (now I do)

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Yall in here say the RC6 isn’t for planetary, but like. Why not

hasty hull
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Uhh what is the FL

unique furnace
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1337mm

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F/9

hasty hull
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yeah that should be just fine

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Put a 2x or 3x Barlow on and you’ll be set, given you have decent seeing and imaging train

unique furnace
hasty hull
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6ā€ of aperture is definitely underrated, obviously the bigger the better but people shouldn’t sleep on 6ā€ scopes for planetary

olive saddle
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Absolutely. If my 4.5" StarBlast can see decent detail on Jupiter, one can imagine a 6" would provide even more detail, let alone an 8" or larger

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6" telescopes used to be, comparably, really big too

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Like, to the point people would drive long distances if they heard someone had a nice 6" Newtonian

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not even necessarily to look through it, just looking at it

low oar
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Famous Landmarks

March 26th 2026

C11 - 2x Barlow - UV/IR cut filter - Uranus C

unique furnace
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feedback please šŸ™

shy jolt
shy jolt
somber stratus
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Stack and a single 7 millisecond exposure.

teal sandal
rain mauve
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The scope I'm using is long refractor 3 inch

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DC compression sucks

ruby compass
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jupiter with io ganymede and io shade transit!

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also why is ganymede so dark 😭

hasty hull
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Sometimes happens, just eats away at some darker details

ruby compass
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also got these.

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amalthea

flint siren
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What's the timestamp here ?

sterile marsh
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260m wide Hill in copernicus

sterile marsh
unique furnace
quick cairn
rain mauve
low oar
unique furnace
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thats not very specific guys 😭

digital steppe
rain mauve
low oar
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Yea it takes time to learn and you don’t wanna just copy people, make it your own art

elder heath
# low oar

Dude it's like somebody just dropped a nuke on my screen

elder heath
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Saturn is perpetually too bright and tiny to see any real stuff through there, same with Jupiter

shy jolt
ruby compass
low oar
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Most of them get dark or change color when in front of the disk I’ve noticed

thick heron
low oar
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Stupid brains

flint siren
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Wavelets also act a bit in this.

quick cairn
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Crazy

quick cairn
hasty hull
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Without the upscaled pixels

hasty hull
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And was doing it a lot then so my processing and acquisition wasn’t as rusty as it is now, hoping this year I can get some great stuff with the 12ā€

flint siren
olive saddle
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honestly the fact that Hubble could resolve Pluto as a disc at all, and not just a singular pixel is awesome

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it's like, the same resolution as Jupiter's Galilean moons taken with a decently average planetary AP rig

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makes me wonder how Pluto would look to JWST, if it's even able to point at and track Pluto

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probably not good (atleast compared to what New Horizons saw) but it might look interesting or unique

quick cairn
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single

quick cairn
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single

silent mesa
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Do you need to derotate lunar data or just use a single stack

quick cairn
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No…

silent mesa
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K

woven kite
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asi662mc first light

quick cairn
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not bad

woven kite
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sharpcap was absolutely a mind blower

quick cairn
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Yeah?

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I also use sharp cap

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I think fire capture is better tho

woven kite
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oh it does uhh

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i havent done any research on firecapture

candid flare
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why would you want livestacking on firecapture

woven kite
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another batch. this one was a little underexposed

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windy tonight

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i bought uv ir and 685nm filter from p1 thats coming next week

quick cairn
quick cairn
quick cairn
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give this a process

winter moat
quick cairn
rain mauve
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Very nice pic

quick cairn
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Honestly 6/10 seeing

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Not very good

quick cairn
velvet island
sterile marsh
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A 260m wide Hill I resolved on copernicus

low oar
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1.5 mile tall and 16 mile wide mountain in a frozen lava lake

olive saddle
# quick cairn

what happened here, how did you get double craters lol

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what did you do to it

quick cairn
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Stacking was weird

grave mountain
# quick cairn

might be me but it looks really denoised compared to your other images

quick cairn
sterile marsh
ruby compass
# quick cairn

Are we gonna ignore how compernicus got cloned?😭

somber stratus
quick cairn
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Thank Tom! My guy knows how to process woah!

low oar
woven kite
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it takes 5 seconds to see changes lol

quick cairn
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Fantastic!

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Yes seeing was very nice last night.

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For the moon-

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As you can see either I suck at process g or the seeing was bad but probably both

low oar
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I feel like I focus so much on seeing for the planets that even having not the best seeing works so good on the moon compared to the planets

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They are so friggen small

quick cairn
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Right

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I totally know how you feel

low oar
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I’m about to edit that thing you sent too

quick cairn
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Oh I should note, this moon data was using a Astronomik pro planet 642nm pass filter and 1.33ms subs

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About 12% of 5,000

quick cairn
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Single subs

low oar
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Looks pretty good to me?

white prawn
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Where's the bad seeing? I can't see how you get that detail on a single sub and cry about bad seeing.

low oar
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What I’m saying

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Can you put all of your stacks into a folder for me to derotate please

low oar
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Thx

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And attach the moon I wanna sharpen too if ya don’t mind

quick cairn
low oar
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Ping me when you get the folder šŸ‘

quick cairn
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like 2 mins

low oar
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W

quick cairn
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yuh

low oar
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Gime like 10-20 min

quick cairn
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the jupiter w moon stacks gonna have worse snr because i did 1:15 vids for those at 100fps, and once the moon went behind i did 2 mins so

low oar
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Seems like you have a lot of data in the moon stack

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Personally I would have stacked a lesser percentage is seems

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But that’s just me

quick cairn
low oar
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Ye I usually run 5-10%

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And I even have less than 5k frames too

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Depending on the roi

quick cairn
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Interesting

low oar
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Sadly most of my moon files are like

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Less than 4gb cuz that’s the max amount my sd card can transfer to my windows laptop šŸ˜‚

quick cairn
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damn haha

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you should get an SSD

low oar
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Ye lol

quick cairn
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i have a 2tb SSD

low oar
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Yea I need that bruh

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How much are they

quick cairn
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ill show you the one i got

low oar
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Alr

quick cairn
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like 200$ after tax

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not terrible, can capture over a gb per second

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thats a 1 tb wait

low oar
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What percent was your jup again?

quick cairn
low oar
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Dang

quick cairn
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why

low oar
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Again, just me, I usually run 10-20

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Keep that noise up in there

quick cairn
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I mean if you can get better snr then you should

low oar
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I’m usually doing 10%

quick cairn
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thats strange to be honest

low oar
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Regardless 10-20

quick cairn
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But everyone is different

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Ive been taught that 30% is middle ground for bad or good seeing

low oar
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Ye

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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

quick cairn
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There is no reason to want more noise yk šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

low oar
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Well

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Yea

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It will just get derotated out

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So I like the noise, cuz that’s detail, and it will get easily derotated out with 3 or more stacks

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That’s why my stacks are mad noisy

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Cuz they come together very smoothly

quick cairn
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I understand what youre saying, but signal = detail

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if the conditions can handle it, higher percents will give you snr

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but maybe you dont get good seeing much idk i dont either

low oar
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Yea, I guess I prefer the noise and sharp frames over potential blurred signal tbh

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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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Who knows lol

quick cairn
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Would have to ask someone with more experience

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This is a wavelet single 95% stack

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Its all about seeing really

low oar
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Wild

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You said after the moon disappeared you did 2 minute videos?

quick cairn
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yeah

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because moon will move faster than planets rotation

low oar
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Ye true

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I personally never go over a minute for jup

quick cairn
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all depends

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it makes sense since you like noise

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more frames = better snr tho

quick cairn
low oar
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Interesting

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I ain’t got a clue lol

quick cairn
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whatever works for you haha

low oar
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Idk much about the technicality

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lol

quick cairn
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Nice

low oar
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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@quick cairn

digital steppe
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or do really short exposures

quick cairn
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snr would be terrible

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try this data

somber stratus
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95 is also very extreme though.

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almost defeats the point of lucky imaging

rain mauve
somber stratus
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Top 30% vs bottom 30%

digital steppe
quick cairn
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In bad seeing I do 20-25%, good seeing 30-40ish and amazing seeing I stack 50~ but it really depends

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My go to amount is 33%

digital steppe
quick cairn
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That’s deep sky dawg

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It also depends on how many subs you have

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For Jupiter I have roughly 8-10,000 per video

rain mauve
# somber stratus

The right one was noisy, what causes that?
They had same 30 percent stack???

flint siren
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Best 30% vs Worst 30% of a same dataset

rain mauve
flint siren
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it's... written...

flint siren
rain mauve
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I.... Still don't get it

low oar
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Again

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Just how I do it

rain mauve
flint siren
# rain mauve I.... Still don't get it

From a same video, the first image is the stack of the 30% best images of the dataset. The second is the 30% worst images. If this is your quality graph, then here's what represent those two stack rates.

low oar
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^

flint siren
rain mauve
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I didn't know that

flint siren
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No, the software only allows you to stack the x% best percentage of the video.

somber stratus
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you have to do some manipulations in PIPP to get the bottom x%.

flint siren
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They probably had to export all the frame with quality sorted and then stacked the 30% worst of images.

somber stratus
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ye

flint siren
somber stratus
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The file name says 100% because the video that AS3 was fed, was a cropped version of the quality-sorted vid. Not that it's important how to do it.

Was just showing how lucky imaging works and comparing the sharpest 30% of frames vs the worst 30% of frames in the same original capture video.

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SNR is the same for both. The perceived noise on the left is better due to increased contrast that seeing provides. The total integration time is identical.

rain mauve
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alright i got the perfect example of this, i have a bad seeing over here, by doing the lucky imaging here, how do i know which one is the best and the worst

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what i see right now the 40-45 percent of the bottom is quite good? so i just put the frame percentage to stack to 40?

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im sorry guys, just wanna understand what i dont

rain mauve
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i see now

quick cairn
low oar
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Try stacking only the best of the best

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Not the best of the best and then the second best that follow that lol

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Might help idk

quick cairn
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I have tried many different ways. But I keep my raw videos so I’ll look into it.

low oar
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Alright nice

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Cuz for me like I said

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Keeping that noisy detail high in the stacks

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And stacking less frames which result in only the good ones

quick cairn
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I get what you’re saying, however, that is your best day ever. I feel it is more seeing dependent than the percent you

low oar
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Allows you derotate a lot more finer details rather then them getting smudged due to iffy frames

quick cairn
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Right

low oar
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Even under bad conditions

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Could be worth a try

quick cairn
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For sure

quick cairn
low oar
quick cairn
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It depends on your aperture as well

quick cairn
low oar
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Well that’s why you derotate

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You essentially get a noiseless image straight from winjupos

quick cairn
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I think we both may be a little confused, Ethan, Ken, Tom. Any consensus?

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I was under the impression derotation helps edges and SNR

flint siren
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It does, that's the whole point...

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Edges are helped somewhat because it kind off removes edge rind over long integrations, and SNR is literally why you do it in the first place.

quick cairn
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Right

flint siren
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The question is maybe poorly asked.

quick cairn
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Well I don’t really know what the argument is, it’s about percents for stacking I guess

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My point is it’s seeing dependent

flint siren
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Yeah but for every type of seeing you'll have a above average amount of frame that you want to stack..

sharp ridge
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Snr definitely, edges imo its worse with winjupos without blending or burn/dodge. But with LSW yes it does improve edges as well

flint siren
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With consistent seeing that amount grows

quick cairn
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That’s what I’m saying

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My understanding is, correct me if I’m wrong, but Kenny is saying he believes that stacking lower percents like 10% is better in good seeing

flint siren
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That's why there's no perfectly optimal percentage of frame for all dataset

quick cairn
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Right

flint siren
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With better seeing you stack more %s.

quick cairn
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I believe that, in good seeing stacking higher percents for better SNR

flint siren
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That's the whole point.

quick cairn
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Right

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Which is why I’m confused

flint siren
quick cairn
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I know that, ultimately I’m saying i ā€œbelieveā€ so that it does not sound like I know everything

flint siren
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Along with maybe sharper frames on average, the real deal is consistency.

sharp ridge
quick cairn
olive saddle
# low oar I feel like I focus so much on seeing for the planets that even having not the b...

The human eye is really good at resolving details in things that we're familiar with, brain sort of fills in details when the eyes can't see something perfectly. It's why the moon looks oddly better in real time than it does in photo, because our eyes kind of "live-stack" as we look at something, even if only for a little bit.

Planets are just too small and unfamiliar, and they're too affected by seeing conditions for your eyes to do that pseudo live-stacking. Unless however, you have an absolutely gargantuan telescope with smooth tracking, and can get stupidly high magnification on the planets, under fantastic seeing conditions. Then your eyes and brain start doing that weird thing, and the view suddenly feels sharper than it's supposed to be.

sharp ridge
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This effect also occurs with animations

olive saddle
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yeah!

quick cairn
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Precisely

flint siren
quick cairn
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I think Kenny is missing the idea that you don’t have to derotate for good SNR alone if you have very good consistent seeing. Yes derotation is good because it helps edges, but you can get the same result without doing it in terms of sharpness and SNR

low oar
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Tbh I’m probably missing a lot lol

quick cairn
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No hate just sharing experiences

low oar
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Deff

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I’m admitting it though haha idk much about the technical stuff

quick cairn
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Me neither !

flint siren
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Regulus coming out of occultation.

quick cairn
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Cool

flint siren
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Mono IR850 luminance with ASI183MM Pro, RGB colors with Uranus-C. Seeing was absolute garbage.

low oar
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Noice

velvet island
silent mesa
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1 hour rotation

quick cairn
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Awesome seeing

low oar
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I wish I was able to finish this mosaic, ran out of storage for the night 😢

low oar
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2.25 actually

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i need a ssd or something so i can record more data

rain mauve
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Today sun, have to manually stitch them. _.

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ICE doesn't wanna stitch them apparently

quick cairn
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Hey tom, what wavelet settings would you use on astrosurface to derotate this data?

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For batch wavelets

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I have 27 stacks

quick cairn
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derotated

flint siren
rain mauve
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todays jupiter

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through 3 inch telescope

quick cairn
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Nice bro

rain mauve
polar forge
# low oar

How'd you make a video like that? You set it to make 10 seconds of video every 1 minute or ?

polar forge
low oar
polar forge
low oar
polar forge
# low oar Idk how ever many you take

I mean i can get a good amount. Got the Eq6R in that case. Say i make a "stack " every 3 minutes? Stack is equal to 30 second video. Would that work?

low oar
polar forge
low oar
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It all just depends

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If you want 2 hours do a video every 5 minutes

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But if you want a smooth and short animation do 30 1 minute videos

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It all just depends what you want

polar forge
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thanks kenny

low oar
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Yep

quick cairn
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Can I get everyone’s advice for settings for my Uranus-c for ISS. I also have nir filter to help seeing. Let me know.

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10ā€ skywatcher

woven kite
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mars occultation

flint siren
hasty hull
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I was lucky enough to catch one in 2025 and a near one in 2022

main flume
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Did a bit of processing on an old moon image this how it turned

quick cairn
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@livid sierra @thick heron, Tom, any advice for a 10ā€ F/5 for the ISS? I’m at 1200mm, exposure and gain? With Uranus C?

thick heron
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I’ve imaged the ISS once ever.

low oar
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I’m orange now

thick heron
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Hi Orange! šŸ‘‹

fading plume
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@low oar @quick cairn welcome to nerd club

digital steppe
fading plume
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You spend too much time in general

digital steppe
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I have highly refined my skills, pushed the limits of untracked

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got 15+ mag targets and 6 stars in trapezium untracked

fading plume
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I’ll consider it

digital steppe
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i check back in in a few hours to see if a decision has been made

graceful creek
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ā¶šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøā·

rain mauve
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Brown dwarf wow xD

quick cairn
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First time ever imaging the ISS

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Hand tracked

hasty hull
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Solid

quick cairn
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Should I have used NIR?

hasty hull
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Very easy to underestimate how bright it can be, I almost always end up with some overexposed pixels

hasty hull
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That way all of the station will be of a similar brightness

quick cairn
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I have 685nm pass, 642nm pass, and 850nn pass

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however i will need to increase exposer so less frames

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I used 0.5 ms exosure and auto gain for this one, and UV/IR cut

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got about 300 frames, AS4 works but its all so bright it doesnt really do anything

hasty hull
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I usually go for about 0.25ms or so

quick cairn
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May you share your photos? whats your aperture

hasty hull
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Though I do image at 4500mm

quick cairn
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I assume you track it

hasty hull
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12ā€ manual tracking

quick cairn
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Sick man

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at 4500mm?

hasty hull
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Thank you bro

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Yeah

quick cairn
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What is your method

hasty hull
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I have a 5x (I think) finderscope that’s pretty accurately aligned, just a matter of being able to smoothly slew the scope around following it’s pace

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A telrad is better for the ISS though

quick cairn
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thats exactly what i do

hasty hull
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It’s been like a year and a half since I’ve had a solid attempt at the ISS but I know I don’t end up having thattt many usable frames

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I take all of the frames PIPP detects with the iss, and export them as tiffs, and hand select the frames that are sharp and the ISS doesn’t change much between to stack

quick cairn
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I have absolutley no idea how to process this stuff

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or how to spell

hasty hull
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Probably not too much more to get out of that, looks really nice though for a first attempt

quick cairn
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thanks

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it happens more often than i give it credit for

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need to get out there more

hasty hull
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Same I’ve been slacking, now I wanna try a flyover lol

quick cairn
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single stack from a few mins after

hasty hull
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No Iss flyovers coming up but do have a few Tiangong opportunities soon which is always interesting

quick cairn
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Ive never seen tiangong

hasty hull
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It is a little smaller angularly but imaging it works exactly the same

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Maybe a little dimmer

quick cairn
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cool!

hasty hull
quick cairn
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yeah my 10" is F/5 and 1200mm

woven kite
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tiangong is underrated

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theres only a handful of images on astrobin

quick cairn
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I know duif has some

dark cargo
woven kite
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whole uk not getting anything

dark cargo
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Just EvilCloud

quick cairn
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not bad

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Is anyone good at masking?

somber stratus
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what classes as "good at masking"

quick cairn
somber stratus
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Yeah pretty standard if you derotate. Need to fix the artifacts.

sharp ridge
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LSW monkaHmm

somber stratus
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also why is my name pink

quick cairn
quick cairn
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I havent tried LS4 much but it didnt do very well for me.

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I think you can be more precise with winjupos

shy jolt
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i was really happy that i thought i got meganerd somehowroguefrog

flint siren
low oar
#

Anyone here know if they are able to image the orion capsule from their location?

quick cairn
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Capsule?

thick heron
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Would love to try, but.

low oar
quick cairn
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No I just don’t know what that is

low oar
quick cairn
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It’s not the nebula right

low oar
quick cairn
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ohhhhh

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Shit yeah that’s tough

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How on earth would you track it

low oar
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all depends on location

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And it’s moving slow and it’s far from earth so it wouldn’t be like the iss

quick cairn
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DAMNIT BRO I’m backpacking all weekend starting Thursday

ruby compass
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what kind of april fools prank is this bro 😭 šŸ™

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aint complaining tho

low oar
thick heron
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What script from what guy on YT?

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So no, but now I have to know.

low oar
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Idk some dude made a script for Stellarium

quick cairn
#

That’s cool

grave mountain
ruby compass
high hull
# quick cairn

imaging the iss and screwing up the exposure is a canon event

polar forge
olive saddle
#

gleegle! bab tok uron blotebab eselith blet tobfur droka galdeb tregto bonx Planetary Imaging dulktho, hask tok frubse blet halla geb worron bersta dallan blet deek tok "Earth" swao buntle, ghant tok mingala prote eeb ablok sleyu vonta.

Aciston: 8.5 mitnues

Derig: 300uu t/5 "Newtonian" teosop deek la "Player One" ingami macerna

Boloot 4, treken belu swao huidok dersa "Valles Marineris" trok, telpon tok blet halla.

grobfalta!

polar forge
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Lets hope something decent comes out of it

quick cairn
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Film at 10ms frames, make the ROI much smaller than that unless you want moons, and click on tools above you and click histogram and box in Jupiter and increase gain only until it’s between 80-90%

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Also output ser files

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I promise you’ll get better images like that

quick cairn
winter moat
woven kite
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good composition coming tonight

quick cairn
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yeah

quick cairn
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Can yall give this moon data a go, its really good

main flume
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Nah but really it's so awesome it could pass for an image from space

main flume
quick cairn
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Uhm

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You dont process in png form....

main flume
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ik

quick cairn
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png's are compressed

main flume
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it's just for people who just want to see it but not process it

quick cairn
main flume
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Now that is fire

quick cairn
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Some people could do better

main flume
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There's always someone who'll do better

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and that's exactly why you don't compare yourself to others

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compare yourself to your past

quick cairn
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good point

main flume
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and you're going to see how much you improved

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See this?

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THIS, was my first picture of jupiter

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And this is what it's looking like now

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Now, if you compare it to this, you're obviously going to say mine is wors

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That's exactly the reason you don't compare yourself to the ones who are better

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if just makes you look bad

quick cairn
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My first photos of Jupiter

main flume
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and if you compare yourself to the ones who are worse, that just builds ego

main flume
quick cairn
main flume
main flume
quick cairn
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lil bit

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long way to go though

main flume
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It clearly is

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Tiny question what telescope aperture did you use for your first image

quick cairn
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10"

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250p skywatcher, that was yesterday evening actually

main flume
quick cairn
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Someday I wanna get here

quick cairn
main flume
quick cairn
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yes very bad shitty made refractor

main flume
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And now you got 10 inches (or 250mm)

quick cairn
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This was the best I got out of the 80mm

main flume
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For 80mm it's certainly impressive

quick cairn
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Its something

main flume
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kinda looks like the ones i took

quick cairn
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My next purchase will be a 16 or 20

main flume
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i've actually been using the same telescope for a year and a half

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a 130mm newton

quick cairn
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which is that?

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awesome

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5 inch

main flume
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yeah

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actually it took me just 3 months to go from that shitty image to my current level

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That ccd really helped a lot

quick cairn
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that was about the same time span for me until i got my 6"

main flume
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Prob astronomy one of the few areas where you can buy skill

quick cairn
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cant buy processing

main flume
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Some processing programs are paid

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(some)

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but the free ones beat them

quick cairn
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This was the best photos I got out of the 6ā€

main flume
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I can see it was the same night

quick cairn
quick cairn
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Got the ISS for the first time yesterday

main flume
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From what i've investigated next saturn opposition will be enough to see the cassini division so i'll try to catch ut

main flume
quick cairn
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yeah was way over exposed

main flume
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i think i accidentally captured it yesterday but i wasn't recording

quick cairn
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crazy

main flume
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i was just watching beutelguese and saw 2 satellites pass before seeing a massive bright one

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and when i checked the iss had just passed near orion

quick cairn
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maybe starlink

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maybe that was it then

main flume
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could be

low oar
#

Quick image of the full moon tonight

main flume
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looks very yellow

low oar
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Ye it just rose

main flume
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it just rose where i live too

low oar
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Nice

main flume
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in 5 days there'll be people there

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not the surface

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but there

low oar
#

Wild