Planetary Imaging

[wild rose]

SCIENCE!

alpha fold won the nobel

[flint siren]

Yeah generally it's a great tool, and the problems we attribute to AI generally originates from humans, either the user (that does not understand the limits of the tool) or the companies behind them.

[hasty hull]

Looked it up and yeah that actually is a really cool use for it

[candid flare]

Majority of that was 1 sentence

[silent mesa]

Homework

[flint siren]

Well that's one part where it's misused.

[quick cairn]

Have we detected elara anyone?

[ruby compass]

could someone help me derotate this ir jupiter data?

@quick cairn ?

[quick cairn]

What’s stopping you from doing it yourself?

[ruby compass]

i have no idea honestly. winjupos just doesnt detect files for me

[quick cairn]

Detect?

Wdym detect

[ruby compass]

if ur down to vc i could show u the problem

[quick cairn]

cant rn

[ruby compass]

hm alr

[quick cairn]

screen shot wym

[ruby compass]

alr

[ruby compass]

it like doesnt show any images

[quick cairn]

did you even watch a video?

you have to mesure the image files first

[stuck basin]

Wait, is this live view or is this already prosessed?

I tried to get Jupiter the other day and failed miserably lmao

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-why-are-you-green-what-is-wrong-with-you-gif-774466718616765419

Here’s my best (so far) pictures of Jupiter and Saturn

Celestron 127slt and svbony 105

[flint siren]

I did back in 2024

[flint siren]

Live view

[rain mauve]

Nice!

[half nova]

what planetary cams do you guys use

[winter moat]

Player One Neptune-C I

[quick cairn]

May I see

[quick cairn]

Imx585 player one Uranus-C

[ruby compass]

shi i forgot how to do that

[flint siren]

[ruby compass]

ill try again now

[ruby compass]

wait how do i flip it?

like north up

[flint siren]

LOOK AT A F*CKING VIDEO

[ruby compass]

it doesnt show

[flint siren]

n and p to rotate the overlay

[ruby compass]

am i blind?

i dont see the option to rotate it

[flint siren]

press the keys n or p

just press the damn keys

[ruby compass]

doesnt do anything

[flint siren]

[ruby compass]

i think i messed it up

[flint siren]

go in this thing (adj)

[ruby compass]

i am there

[flint siren]

no

[ruby compass]

what do i do now?

[flint siren]

bro just watch a videoooo

[ruby compass]

I did

[flint siren]

No you didn't

You'd know what to do

[ruby compass]

i literally have it openm

[ruby compass]

no cuz the image was flipped correctly automaticly for him

[flint siren]

just press n or p to rotate the overlay

and adjust using scope parameters for the scale

[ruby compass]

OHHHHHHHH

[ruby compass]

well now it doesnt line up instead

[flint siren]

it's flipped horizontaly

[ruby compass]

isnt that correct?

[flint siren]

no

[ruby compass]

oh nvm

no

i finally fixed it but it doesnt line up correctly

@flint siren any idea how to fix?

[flint siren]

move the overlay using the arrows on your keybord

[ruby compass]

ill try

[flint siren]

and please stop pinging for such things

[ruby compass]

mb

[ruby compass]

good?

[flint siren]

Overlay too big

[ruby compass]

wait what

how

[flint siren]

And bro please just learn how to do it by yourself

[ruby compass]

i am trying to learn

thats why im asking you

[flint siren]

No you're asking for someone to do it for you

[ruby compass]

i am asking for help how to solve an issue so i can do it myself if the issue happends again

[flint siren]

And even if a video doesn't tell you, find another one

Like bro you ain't 6 yo anymore

[ruby compass]

yeah ofc but i have no idea how to use winjupos so i look up a tutorial and the tutorial dosent help so i ask experinced people for help.

whats the issue?

[flint siren]

the issue is you could've watched another vid

[ruby compass]

true

[ruby compass]

what is the page up / down?

[grave mountain]

Then search another damn tutorial😭how do u think yoships learned

One braincell and it’s for sending your liquid kids to slovenian nerd

[ruby compass]

the tutorial is fine i just dont know what the page up and down button is

[ruby compass]

shut up bro

[grave mountain]

[ruby compass]

i have the issue that i cant press page up or page down on any of my keyboards

[flint siren]

does that sound like our problem ?

[ruby compass]

no?

[flint siren]

then solve it yourself, i'm no keyboard expert

[ruby compass]

i did it

[terse night]

https://tenor.com/view/announcer-meme-announcing-meme-ball-knowledge-ball-meme-benjammins-gif-12241853788039925284

[grave mountain]

❤️

[ruby compass]

Ir 685nm and color data derotated!

[quick cairn]

Right dude

Yoships I would have lost my mind

I commend your patience

[stuck basin]

That’s genuinely amazing what camera+telescope did you use?

[flint siren]

C8, Uranus-C for color and ASI462MM for mono

[grave mountain]

@quick cairn you have the same scope as me right ?

And same sensor too

I’m doing jupiter tonight, do you have any advices for capturing or some tips ?

[winter moat]

Beautiful picture

[grave mountain]

Wow

[quick cairn]

10ms frames, 80-90% histragm, sharpcap planatery stabalization, IR/UV cut filter

100 fps

2 min videos

[grave mountain]

Amazing, all I needed, thanks so much !

[low oar]

Thanks

[ruby compass]

ir timelapse 🙂

[grave mountain]

Goal of tonight is to try and get one of the moons

[quick cairn]

Why so dark

You should be imaging at 80-90% histgram

[ruby compass]

Is it?

[ruby compass]

Idk i just didnt want to overexpose io but that Kinda failed anyways

[quick cairn]

You aren’t going to overexpose it

If you keep the Instagram 80-90%

[sharp ridge]

I use 97% histo

80-90 is np

[quick cairn]

I can’t get mine that accurate

It moves too much

Bounces between 80 and 95 usual

[low oar]

Personally I think so, a lot to me

[shy jolt]

guys my new barlow arrived because it was finally time to replace the aliexpress 10 usd one hehe, and i had a chance into testing it and i am very happy how it came out!
setup:
-canon 600d unmodified
-Celestron X cel 3x barlow
-Skywatcher 10" Dobsonian manual

1.73 arc seeing

and other factors were just pretty mid

[grave mountain]

cool

[shy jolt]

thanks!

[flint siren]

Piter through sahara sand

[ruby compass]

yh

[stuck basin]

What’s the difference between the C8 and the 8SE?

Besides the mounts

[quick cairn]

Focal ratio and mount

[flint siren]

Some things inside maybe, but not much.

[stuck basin]

What’s the focal ratio of the 8SE and c8

[flint siren]

F/d is the same ?

Both f/10.

[flint siren]

Biggest difference may be the secondary holder.

[stuck basin]

@flint siren in your pfp did you take that picture of uranus?

[flint siren]

Yes

[stuck basin]

That’s cool what scope and camera did you use?

[flint siren]

C8 and ASI462MM

May be important to say that it's an HDR composite.

[stuck basin]

How does that work?

Composite planetary imaging

[flint siren]

The ring is very faint compared to the planet, so if you capture both and you have them at a same luminosity you need to make a high dynamic range image, by processing.

[quick cairn]

My mistake.

I would expect that with different scopes

[flint siren]

Only difference with mine is that it's a newer model.

[stuck basin]

Oh cool

[stuck basin]

Did you use a barlow?

[flint siren]

For the ring, no. For the planet, yes.

[stuck basin]

Whouldnt they both have to have the same magnification?

[flint siren]

You can resize one to put it at the image scale of the other.

[quick cairn]

So let’s say you use a 2x Barlow for the planet and no Barlow for the rings. You can resize by 2x if you use the same pixel ROI while imaging and blend them together?

[rugged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994

poor yoships

[thick heron]

It's plausibly not on the keyboard.

On my old laptop Pg up & down was Fn + arrow keys.

[quick cairn]

Same here

You can go into your computer settings and change your key commands. So I can set a to be page job if you wanted to temporarily.

[silent mesa]

1 hour rotation

[ruby compass]

firee

[brazen moth]

Which workflow do you do?

[silent mesa]

Firecapture, autostakkert, Astrosurface and then wave sharp for the gif

[rain mauve]

Dual eclipse on jupiter

Below average seeing

[quick cairn]

You couldn’t see this in the US

[flint siren]

It's not a question of ROI but of sampling. Whatever the ROI, f/10 image with 2x will now be at the same scale as an image at f/20.

[quick cairn]

Right, but to blend the frames in Astro surface, don’t they need to have the same scale?

Like image size

[flint siren]

I do it in photoshop, it's not the same in there.

[quick cairn]

I see

Makes sense

You could also probably use PIPP to resize them to the same anyways

[quick cairn]

When you shot uranus you used an ADC correct?

[flint siren]

Yes

[quick cairn]

Unless you have one of those like $900 ones that don’t increase magnification at all, doesn’t zwo adc increase sampling by 1.1-1.3x? How do you deal with that?

[flint siren]

I don't

I don't have the tools to build something to counter act on it.

[quick cairn]

So to sum it up, you use a two times Barlow for the planet and no Barlow for the rings, and you blend them together by resizing?

But both times you use ADC

[flint siren]

No ADC for the rings, the planet was near zenith and since i was in NIR, dispersion did not matter.

[quick cairn]

Good to know

[ruby compass]

too bright?

[quick cairn]

No

Oversharpened though

[low oar]

Coming soon

[shy jolt]

another clear night!

[quick cairn]

Awesome

[shy jolt]

thanks!

[shy jolt]

also ur tips about the seeing helped a lot

i could easly see the differences

between some of the nights

thanks again!

also i have a question for you guys

how long do you make ur videos?

for Jupiter

[quick cairn]

Depends but I do 2 mins max

[winter moat]

I do max 1 minute

[shy jolt]

thanks

[low oar]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVhDuGgEX0i/?igsh=MTc0NWN6NnlkeDE0ag==

kennyscosmos

Hidden In Our Shadow!🩸🌑

I present my 2026 Lunar Eclipse Image! This image was taken March 3rd 2026 in Palm Springs California and is a photo I’ll remember forever! 🌴

For this image I flew out to California to get the best chance at clear skies and imaging the eclipse like you’ve never seen before! @aj.smadi also flew in alongside...

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Done…

[winter moat]

Woooow Very beautiful

[low oar]

Thanks

[stuck basin]

@flint siren have you have taken a picture of Neptune?

[flint siren]

Neptune

[untold spear]

How did you get the star background?

[low oar]

Imaged the stars at totality

[untold spear]

Ah so it's a composite

[low oar]

Wdym

[untold spear]

You did mosaic right? Or is it the full disc that fit in camera?

[low oar]

Ye it’s a mosaic

[untold spear]

I see

Oh yea, you did with DSLR for background then Uranus M for mosaic

[low oar]

Yes

[untold spear]

Double eclipse coming soon

[quick cairn]

Yo yoships!

Single stack!!

[shy jolt]

so i didn t get an hour of data how i expected but i got 20 minutes and its my first animation!

[winter moat]

Nice Looks really good for a first try !

[shy jolt]

i learned many mistakes from it like when my dslr was low on the battery so i switched it the entire settings reset so i didn t knew what exposure and iso was before

and many other small ones that i will try to avoid

[shy jolt]

thanks

[winter moat]

Making mistakes is good

Then you learn a bunch of things

[shy jolt]

ofc it is

[shy jolt]

how can i fix field rotation in planetary animations?

[quick cairn]

Derotate them in winjupos individually

[shy jolt]

i am really confused because all of that winjupos thingy can u explain a little?

[quick cairn]

Wdym

Winjupos is easy to use

[shy jolt]

how

i loaded all the images that i want to rotate

[quick cairn]

Good

Then go to image derotation

And put in each single frame individually and load them

It will center the planet

[winter moat]

https://grischa-hahn.hier-im-netz.de/astro/winjupos/tutorials.htm

[shy jolt]

but derotation fixes field rotation too?

[quick cairn]

I’m not telling you to derotate them

As a whole

I’m telling you to derotate each one individually

Only Input the 1 file at a time

[shy jolt]

i know

[shy jolt]

then what

[quick cairn]

them as in each one, not them as in them all at once

[shy jolt]

so derotate each one not all at the same time u meant?

[quick cairn]

yes

put 1 file in at a time

[shy jolt]

thats what i thought

[quick cairn]

okay good

[shy jolt]

but i just wanted to know

if derotation fixes field rotation too

[quick cairn]

yeah thatl fix field rotation

[shy jolt]

let me try doing it i quess

[quick cairn]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1479516038348411010

[shy jolt]

but i need image measurements?

it worked!

but it cropped it a bit

[quick cairn]

why would it crop it?

[quick cairn]

right the mesurment files

[shy jolt]

so it was the image size tab i alr changed that

[shy jolt]

so i did it for each image

but it doesn t look like it worked

it made some images even more rotated

and some of them have that glow

[quick cairn]

🤦‍♀️

ill show you

[shy jolt]

what did i do wrong

do i have to type EXACTLY the hour i made the image each time?

[quick cairn]

Do this and click download complete image and then delete the file mesurment and repeat

to each file

[shy jolt]

thats what i did...

[quick cairn]

it should have worked

btw winupos uses UCT

United central time

[shy jolt]

gonna image Jupiter today and try it again

because for now i don t know EXACTLY the hour

[quick cairn]

what do you image jupiter with

[quick cairn]

check ur video file

what computer program

[shy jolt]

i have 3 of them so i quess the middle one

but i have to type the hour into the measurements tab and then into the derotation tab too?

[shy jolt]

10" untracked dob and a canon 600d

[quick cairn]

first

ohhh

shoot.

yeah thats gonna be tough

[shy jolt]

dslr thingy?

[quick cairn]

you need it precise like to the 10th of a min

[shy jolt]

like VERY precise time?

[quick cairn]

most imaging programs allow file names to be saved with exact UCT

[shy jolt]

but wait

[quick cairn]

but i dont think you can with a dslr

[shy jolt]

if i have a video and started it at 0.00 time

and finished at 0.02

so 2 minutes passed

then when i stack it

[quick cairn]

i would put in 0.01

[shy jolt]

what hour counts for the hour that the image is made?

thats what i thought

[quick cairn]

UCT

go look up how off united central time is for you

and then do the math

[shy jolt]

dslr is saving this too i think

[quick cairn]

no

because winjupos has a format

you need to type the time in a certain way

[shy jolt]

oh that u meant

so the file alr stores the time?

and dslr is that i have to put in one image manually?

[quick cairn]

For WinJUPOS image derotation, the time format is very specific:

Format:
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

Key rules:

Use UTC time, not your local time.

24-hour clock.

Date uses hyphens, not slashes.

Time is separated from the date by a space.

Example:
2026-03-06 03:41:27

That would mean March 6, 2026 at 03:41:27 UTC (the midpoint time of your capture).

[quick cairn]

dslr doesnt save the time in winjupos format

[quick cairn]

this is wroong though

damn chatgpt

its not seconds, its 10ths of a min

so 01 is 6 seconds into the min, 05 is 30 seconds into the min

like that

[shy jolt]

but what those 10ths of a min make into the time saving?

[quick cairn]

look it up please

there is information everywhere i dont have the brain power for this right now

[shy jolt]

i just don t understand

what does 10ths of a min has to do with image saving?

its saving like that or what

[quick cairn]

i will say this as simply as i can

[shy jolt]

ok i will say it different way

what is this useful for

i understand that like 0.3 of a min is 18seconds

[quick cairn]

winjupos wont understand your time stamp unless it is in that format

[shy jolt]

so it doesn t use like minutes, seconds instead it uses minutes and 10ths of it? instead of seconds?

[quick cairn]

yes

[shy jolt]

ok that makes sense

more precise i think

[quick cairn]

again

on winjupos

there is a help bar

it explains everything

[shy jolt]

ok

i quess i gotta go outside soon

great white spot today

[quick cairn]

thats very good

[shy jolt]

gotta go outside and try to get like 1h i hope

until my battery dies

wish me luck

[woven kite]

is there a good guide or tutorial for composites like ir rgb

[somber stratus]

Oval BA isn't accurately tracked in ephemeris (like Winjupos and Stellarium).

GRS is fairly accurate however

[quick cairn]

Interesting

[shy jolt]

oh so its named Oval BA? cool now i gotta know

[ruby compass]

Fire

[ruby compass]

In stelariun the grs is way to big

[somber stratus]

Because it's based off an old map from decades ago.

GRS used to be that big.

[ruby compass]

Yeah

Isnt it hubble data it uses?

[somber stratus]

Voyager I think

[thick heron]

Cassini

https://science.nasa.gov/resource/cassinis-best-maps-of-jupiter-cylindrical-map/

[rain mauve]

seeing was goooddd i use drizzle

collimation wasnt perfect and some dew just came into my mirror so some halo and ghosting expected 🙁

[peak bobcat]

Jupiter with 200PDS… 585mc

26 mins total derotation in 60s captures. Best 25% stacked

[winter moat]

Nice pic

[peak bobcat]

Thanks this is actually my DSO imaging scope but though I’d swap out the imaging train and try planetary

[winter moat]

Nice

[winter moat]

Great pictures on your astrobin !

[ruby compass]

insanely sharp. image loosk clipped tho

[elder venture]

You use the 114mm hadley right?

If so then thats insane

[rain mauve]

Yes, I use the Hadley 114mm telescope

[elder venture]

honestly well done

youre pulling a lot out of it

[untold spear]

Not that much ig, you can check histogram to see either clipped or not

[ruby compass]

Yeah

Just looked Kinda non round on the right side

[rain mauve]

Thank you!

[peak bobcat]

Very nice…. What processing flow? You using LSW7?

[peak bobcat]

Excellent details, nice work

[rain mauve]

thanks bro!

got another jupiter today

[untold spear]

No I'm not using LSW7, I'm using astroSurface for wavelets

And winjupos for derotation, I feel winjupos is more accurate and can save ephemeris

[peak bobcat]

Yeah I tried detotating in LSW7 and found it couldn’t cope with 30mins derotation, whereas winjup could. But I do like the sharpening routine in LSW7 even though there is not much control over it

[ruby compass]

someone give me advice

[low oar]

Full Worm Moon set over the California mountains!

[rain mauve]

Woahh very nice

[rain mauve]

Another jup jupp

[low tendon]

@somber stratus sorry for the ping but im looking to buy a guiding cam that is also good at planetary and idk if i should buy a 462 sensor thats much smaller but higher fps for planetary or or a 178 and only 60fps, could you help?

[somber stratus]

These fps stats are for full sensor, but you rarely end up using the full sensor for planetary. The ROI frame rates are what's relevant. 462 is a good cam, but also look at the 678 for instance. 178 is fairly outdated now.

But both would "work" don't get me wrong.

[low tendon]

ok, thx for the help man

[low oar]

Yea you will get much more than 60 fps no matter what cam you get pretty much

[low tendon]

wdym

[winter moat]

If you use a very small ROI, you can achieve very high FPS rates no matter which camera

Like 200×200 is very small

[low oar]

Like when the company advertises its frame rate it’s usually for the full frame, like tom said, you will probably never use it, so when you crop in on a planet your frame rate will almost double, depending on what your shooting

[low tendon]

ok thx

[low oar]

Yep

[digital steppe]

if this is true, could the uranus c reach 1000 fps

[rugged knoll]

yes

ive done it

ive shot mars at 900

[digital steppe]

so i have a slowmo cam

[rugged knoll]

if you crop to like a couple pixels

[quick cairn]

Oh yes

[low oar]

2026 Eclipse Timelapse

[fading plume]

But why

[shy jolt]

so it didn t work?

its still field rotated

even when i got i think the correct more accurate time

now it worked?

huh

its really weird sometimes but i think i will do all of the images

[shy jolt]

uhh

why it looks like that on some frames?

i think its again a time thingy

gotta change it

[shy jolt]

so

i did it

but its not very much stabilized

some frames are rotated kinda wrong

[rain mauve]

average seeing soo

[quick cairn]

Did y’all see Damien peach posted about some hate mail, I suspect it’s BM. Also he has a 30” now allegedly

He’s definitely going to use his aperture as an excuse to why his images are so good

[winter moat]

Yee saw it too

[quick cairn]

It’s a shame

[winter moat]

At first glance it looks ok if you don't think about the equipment

[quick cairn]

Nahhh, he’s grabbing detail that shouldn’t be possible

The equipment is good, and his data is probably good. But the resolution isn’t right

[winter moat]

That's with a 2m CCT

for comparison

[quick cairn]

I believe it

Look at the white circle storms on the southern poles and compare them

Here is another comparison Christopher Go did

[rain mauve]

cloud sucks, good seeing tho

[quick cairn]

Nice man

You ever thinking of upgrading?

[rain mauve]

yep im saving for 8 inch right now

[quick cairn]

Awesome man

[rain mauve]

saving money for 8 inch

idk man maybe next year or next next year

[quick cairn]

Is it Goto?

Or normal

[rain mauve]

which you guys recommend?

i only found gso

[quick cairn]

What’s gso?

[rain mauve]

like this one

[rain mauve]

i think goto is way more expensive no?

but yeah i need to shoot dso like small galaxies regardless

[quick cairn]

Cool. You can get a hand tracked 8” dob for around 800$

[grave mountain]

It’s been confirmed

It’s BM

[quick cairn]

I also think it’s BM, but not sure how you can confirm it without Damien showing the full thing

[grave mountain]

He showed it to someone that told us in another server

[quick cairn]

Did they show it

Or tell us

[ruby compass]

wait whats wrong? im slow

[shy jolt]

i believe B. Martin uses ai

saw some posts about it earlier here i think

and had some steve looking minecraft profile if i remember correctly

this i saw

[ruby compass]

ah alr

[ruby compass]

whats that have to do with anything? 😭

[shy jolt]

so you would better recognize him lol

[glossy frigate]

My best pic of jupiter and it's red spot

This was my first attempt 😭

[flint siren]

filter IR pass yes yes

[flint siren]

Perfect airy disks.

[olive saddle]

I was looking at Jupiter the other night, and the moons looked basically just like this when I had my eye centered perfectly on the exit pupil

it's very good to see

[peak bobcat]

he also claimed he used a 2.5x powermate with his 30 inch f3 dob, so he was operating at f7.5 with a 585 sensor. - waaay undersampled - something no true planetary imager would ever willingly do

then on astyobin he states its a 24 inch dob, cant even get his lies straight

[teal sandal]

Such a weird guy

[somber stratus]

already has lol

he posted a "live" view, that was actually one that he had blended with the final image to boost the apparent seeing conditions. I reverse engineered it and it's remarkably shit. This is what the live view actually looks like. No where near good enough for the results he posted. AI at it's finest hour.

[teal sandal]

What a fraud.

Thank you for showing this

[winter moat]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[white prawn]

If he's actually doing that then I need to find another AP person to aspire to their quality. Duif and Tom, I guess you guys are it.

Which you were on that list anyway so ...

[peak bobcat]

He claims 30" f3 dob with 2.5x PM. He'd be at only f7.5 and 5715mm focal length and so could not have physically captured any more details than a properly sampled 14" scope.

[somber stratus]

yup

[peak bobcat]

just commented that on his astrobin so see what he says!

[somber stratus]

he'll just block you lol

I asked for a photo of the scope but no response.

[peak bobcat]

hopefullu the astrobin judges to see enough doubt cast on him so he doesnt get any more top picks or iotds

[quick cairn]

I don’t think they will.

They seem to ignore how people process even if you use AI

[flint siren]

Your hopes are too high, they have no clue of whatever in planetary.

[flint siren]

Still kind of hard to tell with the compression.

[quick cairn]

Indeed

[rain mauve]

best seeing ever!

got an excellent seeing today

[winter moat]

Very good

[rain mauve]

thanks mate!

[quick cairn]

Is ganymede the biggest moon/ object that we can image surface geological detail on the solar system? This time of year?

[ruby compass]

unless u count our moon or planets

or nebuale

or galxies

[quick cairn]

Uhm

Who or what can image surface geological detail on nebula and galaxies

[ruby compass]

i read detail

😭

[quick cairn]

This is why you don’t understand winjupos

[ruby compass]

i do now

atleast for derotation

[flint siren]

https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-gif-4972452

[flint siren]

Resolution difference between 4 and 8", same filter, same processing. Not the limit of the 8" though.

[digital steppe]

great comparison

[winter moat]

Yoo very nice

[somber stratus]

Nicely done.

[somber stratus]

Mercury, Mars are obvious winners. Venus you can also image the surface with a 1 micron filter.

But at this very moment, yeah, since the other 3 are poorly placed.

[silent mesa]

I processed this one for u ❤️

[thick heron]

I've heard geologic features are easy to image on Earth.

[olive saddle]

I'm more of an observational astronomer when it comes to Earth

[sharp ridge]

Planet birb, nice surface detail, not sure if its geological or not

[grave mountain]

https://klipy.com/gifs/patrick-star-dumb-10

[ruby compass]

It is trust

[woven kite]

awesome

i wanna try live stacking an owl

they stay very still

[quick cairn]

This is true, I processed this one I just like yours more, still my data but yeah

[sharp ridge]

nice

[quick cairn]

I like doing that when it’s cloudy

[peak bobcat]

Shared some SERs if anyone has time to waste on some mediocre data https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1482795531670388861

[remote venture]

Of course this happens when my new camera came in. When ever I shoot planets I go through the hand controller date, location and all that good stuff. When I chosen solor system align it gave me a list of planets to choose from like all the other times but this time it was different. When I clicked Jupiter and centered it I clicked align and it said star polar on then it started slewing across the sky in oblivion. The second issue is that no matter what speed I set the mount at it is at max speed on the left and right. Up and down is the only one’s that listen to command.

[quick cairn]

Check the locking altitude things

also ask this in #🤓-ask-a-nerd

[quick cairn]

Is it possible for a 10” to resolve the cleaner circler shape of the lower 4 storms and the northern pole orange storm and such like Ethan and Ken have? That’s one thing I’ve wanted to accomplish the most. Tom does it the best

First photo is probably the best seeing I’ve had. And still they are blurry

[teal sandal]

just got my artificial star, i think the mak is out of collimation

[quick cairn]

Yeah

Take it closer to focus

[teal sandal]

this is further

lemme take it closer

[quick cairn]

Definitely slightly off but not terrible

[teal sandal]

the last one is in focus

[quick cairn]

Looks to the left some

What kind of scope is it

[teal sandal]

yeah

a 5 inch mak

thats why the moons of jupiter always looked like this...

i gotta recollimate it ig

[quick cairn]

Well that can be due to many things but

[quick cairn]

What kind is a mak?

Newt? Frac?

[teal sandal]

mak-cass

Catadioptric

[quick cairn]

Oh, so it’s like a Cassagran

Have you considered using a laser?

[teal sandal]

artificial star is the best method for a mak iirc

[quick cairn]

I see

[teal sandal]

out of focus in the other direction

[quick cairn]

Atleast in this first photo if you keep it to this level of focus you can eyeball moving it to the right some, then defocus or focus more and fine tune

[teal sandal]

yeah

[flint siren]

It's not that bad tbf, your airy disk is still circular.

Still better to have it collimated though.

[teal sandal]

okay, i will recollimate the thing then

[teal sandal]

ill use this focus position to achieve concentricity here, its fine, right?

[flint siren]

Yea

[teal sandal]

great

thanks

[teal sandal]

also, would i benefit from putting a 2x barlow to increase precision of my collimation? Or would it introduce me to other optical errors a barlow may give

[flint siren]

No, the shape of the airy disk is telling enough.

You're at f/12, it's enough.

[teal sandal]

okay, thanks again.

time to install ocal to get the concentric rings aligned with my out of focus star

Oh nvm it only works for ocals

[teal sandal]

i think its perfect

[quick cairn]

Some nice data if anyone would like to play with it

[flint siren]

Very nice yeah

[teal sandal]

back in my prime baby

the weird thing is that the mak doesnt have locking screws

only 3 push and 3 pull

[flint siren]

Reprocess from the 25/02.

[quick cairn]

very nice

[teal sandal]

love the look

hmmm maybe i should do jupiter tonight then

[quick cairn]

Cool comparison for cloud movement, this is 6/3

[rain mauve]

phone with jupiter 3 inch telescope

[teal sandal]

I think I’m gonna try imaging Jupiter with my Touptek 585M tonight

I have lrgb and IR in my filter wheel

… and sho but well, they aren’t planetary filters

[quick cairn]

the green channel will look the best

[quick cairn]

bad seeing with a 16"

[low oar]

This is my best with an 11 inch so far

So take that what you will

[quick cairn]

very good

[low oar]

Thanks

What storms were you looking to get

[quick cairn]

Not sure if this is my best or not but it’s my recent best past few months

[low oar]

Looks good

[low oar]

???

[quick cairn]

No idea

it was just seeing

[low oar]

Ag

Ahhh

[teal sandal]

worms are eating jupiter from the south

[somber stratus]

Been a while, that's for sure.

[teal sandal]

honestly expected a bit more sharpness from tonight but im still quite happy since i havent done planetary in a long time, this is just luminance, havent processed the color stuff yet

kinda missed the peak jupiter season ngl

and i feel bad abt it

[teal sandal]

just realised i could have done it better, gotta reprocess everything tommorow

[quick cairn]

Goodluck.

[elder venture]

jupiter is like santa

comes back every year

[untold spear]

Peter

[quick cairn]

Nice

[shy jolt]

guys

are any of you gonna capture the multiple moon transit on Jupiter?

+a shadow?

[somber stratus]

The one in ~5 hours? Yeah, I'm attempting it.

[teal sandal]

yep

im gonna redo it tonight tho

with a color cam now

[shy jolt]

nice! i gotta do my first long timelapse

[teal sandal]

im too lazy to process mono lrgb stuff

[flint siren]

No real need to image in luminance btw, standard RGB is fine.

You often lose resolution due to seeing and the large bandpass of the filter.

Plus, since the planet are high SNR targets.

[shy jolt]

how did i t went?

and is it normal that Kallisto looked very similar to Io shadow?

it was like a black circle

[somber stratus]

Terrible seeing, didn't even set up the camera. Could barely see Callisto visually.

[somber stratus]

Yes, it's very dark. This is normal.

[shy jolt]

oh i didn t know it was THAT dark

[low oar]

Just naturally dark

[shy jolt]

thats so cool

[shy jolt]

sad

[shy jolt]

ok so after a check i got 148 videos 1 minute each

so i could stack 1-2 videos per stack and do a timelapse

but i am too lazy to do it rn

[quick cairn]

Autostakkert has a batch option

Will do them all in back to back

[low oar]

Yea just drop them all in autostakkert and run it

[shy jolt]

wait no

ARE YOU JOKING?

uhh

[low oar]

lol

Just drop all the vids in

And run them

[shy jolt]

so i done all previous 40 videos each...

[low oar]

All you have to do is analyze the first one

[shy jolt]

wait and thats it?

[low oar]

Ye

[shy jolt]

i don t have to select any option for batch?

[low oar]

No

Just drag and drop

[shy jolt]

gonna do that tomorrow i quess

[low oar]

Assuming all your files look relatively the same right?

[shy jolt]

i mean yeah

no brightness or any changes

[low oar]

Ye

[shy jolt]

just different Jupiter angle

2h difference

[low oar]

Then just batch them

[shy jolt]

ok

really thanks

[low oar]

Yeh

[shy jolt]

if i alr started doing them all one by one and was alr like 40% of the way and i would find out that it has a batch option i would be freaked out as hell

[low oar]

I only recently figured it out too

lol

[shy jolt]

i don t know if i will fix the field rotation in winjupos

its gonna take some time to do all of them

[low oar]

Like wdym

You just move your measurement

[shy jolt]

but can all the images use one measurement?

[low oar]

You would probably have to manually align and rerotate each frame in like photoshop or some editor

[low oar]

I mean you just gotta rotate it every time

[shy jolt]

but it will probably be the same in time like winjupos

[shy jolt]

yeah so for each image

[low oar]

Idk

[low oar]

Yea

[shy jolt]

and i have to log and put the time in both derotation and ims

i will think about that when the first without field derotation are gonna be made

[low oar]

Why don’t you shoot with winjupos file names?

[shy jolt]

dslr...

[shy jolt]

u meant that it gets the time from the file?

[low oar]

Ahhh I see

What do your images look like with a dslr just curious

[low oar]

Yea like with fire capture and sharp cap it automatically named the final something that winjpos can recognize and then auto inputs the date and time and all the fun info

[shy jolt]

gonna send

i did a quite good progress now

[low oar]

Hm not bad

What’s ur apature?

[shy jolt]

10" untracked skywatcher

and 3x celestron x cel

so 3600mm

and a canon 600d

unmodified

[low oar]

Nice nice

[robust plover]

What Barlow do you guys use? I was thinking about either a 2.5x 1.25” powermate or 2x X-cel for my C8

[low oar]

I use a 2

[silent mesa]

Single stack

[shy jolt]

update the first 58 ones are gonna have to be deleted

they are just trash

wobbly as hell

but then the seeing stars to calm

[shy jolt]

can t send it sadly

too heavy

[quick cairn]

Heavy?

[shy jolt]

yeah

600MB

[shy jolt]

limit here is 100

gonna compress it and make it shorter

[quick cairn]

Just make a Google Drive link

That’s much better

[shy jolt]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EmBiMiaUFGofOQSdXWV0VeDNrA8B0N3_/view?usp=sharing

good?

the preview is a bit worse tho

[quick cairn]

Shit dude that’s really good

Good stuff

[shy jolt]

thanks!

its my first ever moon transit and a shadow transit

and its a longer timelapse i never done any longer

only about 30 minutes

[shy jolt]

and thats 2.5h

[quick cairn]

I’m using a 16” tonight? Any advice for different in a 10”?

Jupiter, obviously

First is my last attempt with his 16” F/5. Second is good seeing with my 10”

[somber stratus]

Use same imaging train if your 10" is also f/5

[quick cairn]

Sounds good

[quick cairn]

Is anyone imaging this?

[shy jolt]

i have 3 arc...

and hell a wind

[rain mauve]

Captured with 3 inch telescope

It's very low right now

[quick cairn]

Still dope

[teal sandal]

damn jupiter in march is smol

[teal sandal]

oh holy jupiter

[somber stratus]

Got it a little later on.

Io's shadow had left the disk by this point, but Ganymede's shadow took its place

[low oar]

Clean

[quick cairn]

This is fantastic work Tom. Your processing is clean. Ganymede detail very fine.

results from the 16", colimation was slightly off and sweeing was bad, but hey, experience is progress.

[quick cairn]

single stack vs derotated 3/11

[quick cairn]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IqodEvWFg5Bdd6aRd5BI7dfsv6Ahfa1S?usp=sharing

Best data I have ever gotten

10” skywatcher

BA Storm on the southern most band on the right

[teal sandal]

this looks very good man good job

what scope

[quick cairn]

10” skywatcher

Goto dob

[somber stratus]

Yum

[elder venture]

dayum

[quick cairn]

Holy moly

[somber stratus]

osc

[elder venture]

it looks oddly crisp

am i imagining things or is it sharper than usual?

[sharp ridge]

Its probably cuz its not fully denoised yet

[elder venture]

i like it a lot this way

[sharp ridge]

It will look crispier with grain in it

[quick cairn]

Yeah

[somber stratus]

It is OSC vs the normal IR, it's inherently higher resolution and less prone to diffraction effects. Can cause it to look sharper.

• not properly denoised as Ken said

[elder venture]

yeah i see

though i love it this way

[somber stratus]

raw derotation

[elder venture]

as mentioned it looks sharper and i feel like it looks "more real" if that makes sense due to the noise

[elder venture]

oh damn

quite the difference

[somber stratus]

literally the same data, you just need to sharpen it.

LSW works on raws instead of sharpened stacks

[elder venture]

i need to revise some planetary work then

thank you

its nice to see raw vs final result

[quick cairn]

great data

[silent mesa]

What Barlow should I get for a skywatcher 300p if I have 2.9 pixel size

[winter moat]

4x

[quick cairn]

It depends

On if you use an ADC or not

Probably a 3x with an ADC,

It’s F/5 right

No matter the size of the scope you want the same setup if it’s same focal ratio

[silent mesa]

F/4.5

[quick cairn]

2.9 x 6 =17.4

Or 7 for perfect seeing is like

2.9 x 7 =20.3

So I would stick between those 2 numbers F ratio

4.5 x 3 x 1.3 =17.55
4.5 x 4 x 1.3 =23.4

3x better

[winter moat]

Wooow

[white prawn]

3x w/ ADC lands just right.

[white prawn]

And you can do it w/o AI Upscaling and enhancement.

Also really stop hogging the good skies. I don't want you to not have them. I want them too though.

[somber stratus]

For what it’s worth the stack from this video is far far above any of the other ones from the same session. Such a fleeting moment of good seeing

Patience is key I guess

[white prawn]

Dude I completely missed planetary season because of clouds and schite seeing

Kinda peeved that since I got the Onstep I haven't had a good night.

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus Great data!

[woven kite]

all the imx224 cameras are overpriced and discontinued or not in the US (import tax and tariffs)

wonder why brands stopped making planetary cams with pixel sizes between 3 and 4. sampling wouldve been perfect with a 2-2.5x barlow

settled with an imx662

[white prawn]

Too big

[quick cairn]

Look forward to the stack

[olive saddle]

gosh, that live view looks better than most stacked AstroPhotography images

[brazen moth]

I'm developing batch processing in Eise.app. Post Processing can handle all stacks in one go, changes are reflected on all stacks. And the "Align Stacks" button centers and scales all images so they are as equal as possible. not as good as winjupos obviously. Let me know if you want to test the new feature, I can send you a test URL privately.

[brazen moth]

Throwing this amazing data in Eise immediately gives me a bug because your moon is so sharp and big. It centers and crops with the moon as part of the "interesting data", which it of course is.

[somber stratus]

Note that is a compressed mp4.

[candid nexus]

images come out of backdoorastro lately are wild asf. I came here from reddit on one of backdoor astronomy's post that mentioned this discord and holy hell his Jupiter is good!

hes using a bigger telescope now right? I always thought his processing on his 16 was too harsh but hes getting that down i think and i checked all the details on his jupiter they are real asf anyone else saw?

https://x.com/BackdoorAstro/status/2035961172479094795 wow

[candid flare]

[olive saddle]

hah we both sent that simultaneously

that's amazing lmao

[candid flare]

damn you know ball as well

[candid nexus]

huh

oh nvm probz not for me.

[woven kite]

i dont get how anyone can feel proud about faking their own images

[candid nexus]

what is everyones problem with him? All I see is over processed images on real actual data he seems to capture.

[woven kite]

heavy topaz ai

[candid nexus]

Reddit doesn't need to come in here and talk down on someone

[candid flare]

its more than meets the eye situation

[candid nexus]

Where

How is his latest jupiter topaz?

Whats the difference with that and that guy in here with a 24 inch dob when Backdoorastro has a 30 inch

[woven kite]

i think this thread had a conversation about him last week hold on

[candid nexus]

I dont like gossip. I see good images and he processes real data differently

Im here cause some wacko posted a comment on his reddit post about this discord

[candid flare]

are you a brian martin stan?

[candid nexus]

He has a 30 inch dob and seems to knwo what hes doing thats all I care about. checked his twitter hes also autistic so i dont care to talk badly on mental health

ive been watching his shit on reddit a long time

[candid flare]

...hes banned from reddit

[candid nexus]

and his new post someone said osmething about this place

No hes not

[woven kite]

read from here (i turned ping off)

[candid flare]

u/BackdoorAstronomy

[candid nexus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/telescopes/comments/1s1wu1k/springtime_with_jupiter_and_pals/

that post is what brought me here

[candid flare]

his account is deleted

[candid nexus]

at the bottom this discord is mentioned

then why is he going viral on telescopes reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/telescopes/

He's going viral with his impressive jupiter image that looks like a crisp version of some of the good ones in here too

How is that image fake is what i want to know

[candid flare]

well, the data is real but the processing involves AI processing tools which alter the data. AI is well known to hallucinate data and even introduce things which shouldnt even exist.

[candid nexus]

i matched his latest jupiter to that tom guy above and other people he encouraged people to match and the details are all there thats why im confused but i do see a genuine cap

huh

whats that mean

[candid flare]

look it up

[candid nexus]

like i said i dont need to look anyones private business up i am only talking about their photos I dont dox

doxxing is wrong

[candid flare]

?

[candid nexus]

what is this stolen data talk? is that supposed to mean something?

what do I look up

you told me to look it up

Are you asking me to look up someones personal business and doxx cause if its anything other than planet photos I dont care

[candid flare]

no one is being doxxed.

[rain ember]

is this brian’s burner acc

[candid nexus]

im from reddit this discord was mentioned there will probably be more people what are you on about

brians image is going viral so theres prbably going to be more than just me showing up im here cause of reddit i dont need you or anyone bringing any of that to me im curious on his images and want to see whats going on

not yet im kind of wanting to get into it

im just seeing how other people process and i noticed they all do it differently

i found this discord on rbians reddit post if im not welcomed i can leave.

ok so what program does he use and does it have a major affect?

i notice he does have actual data i even saw some of his videos so im wondering why use ai

[high hull]

bc it takes 0 skill to ask chatgpt or whatever to "improve" the image

[candid nexus]

is processing about using any tools or is there some sort of rule i would need to follow

i might be too old then for this i dont even know much about the ai or chatgt what have you.

so is brians data real and enhanced is that a good way to put it?

[graceful creek]

how much zoom should i get for jupiter

100x btw

[candid nexus]

his tiktok has a video of him at his scope and hes done live shows on saturn i remember seeing them. im well older than him but he captuired me

[high hull]

a little bit real but the fine detail is often stolen or just generated

[candid nexus]

has anyone tried to replicate it it sounds fascinating

[graceful creek]

well...

sheet

[high hull]

replicate what?

[candid nexus]

i think brian had the 16 inch dobsy

[graceful creek]

i need like 5000x zoom

[candid nexus]

but it says he is using a friends 30

i want to get a 18

[graceful creek]

send pics

[candid nexus]

wow you have a 24 and 25

[graceful creek]

@coarse aspen give this person protostar premium pls

[candid nexus]

my old self can't get that large I think an 18 is good. My grand kids would love it too

[graceful creek]

oh

ok sorry

[graceful creek]

nvm zegery

[high hull]

wha why

[candid flare]

yes bob you will be enlightened

[candid nexus]

Well, I mean, Brian seems to be good as well as others I like everyones way they process their planets im a bit torn on which one I would like to try for myself. I think it would be boring if everyone processed the same and I look forward to trying to get into this im very inspired. Thank you though it has been a nice chatting with you all. I am glad reddit pointed me to this chat.

[candid flare]

enjoy your stay

[candid nexus]

Thank you I do look forward to learning more and this seems like a proper place to start. Aside from any gossip I do enjoy what I am seeing in here.

I must ask does he come in here or is he a member? Would be swell to introduce myself.

[candid flare]

dont think mr martin uses discord

[candid nexus]

Oh bummer 🙁 well I shall stick around and learn more if I can. Really liking the stuff in here and Toms videos are so nice that must be a joy to see when going out with the telescopes

[candid flare]

you'll see tom in here every now and then

[candid nexus]

Wonderful. A joy to be in here. I am thankful for the warm welcome.

[woven kite]

imagine the debates if we can get him into this server

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-watching-eating-popcorn-drama-gif-12252109670276761360

[candid nexus]

I came here from his reddit post maybe he will show up unless he doesn't go into these things I dont know. I read on his twitter he is an autistic introvert so maybe not. It says that on his account. He seems very nice from the live shows I was in with him he's a very nice person so I hope he comes in here

[candid flare]

are you him?

[candid nexus]

No. I am far too old to be him or many of you

I live in Texas. I think he lives in California if I am not mistaken.

[thick heron]

Where in Texas are you?

[candid nexus]

Just an old man in his 60s looking to retire on something to do at nights. What telescope should I get if I am looking for maybe say an 18" dob?

[candid nexus]

Hi, Ethan. I'm in North Dallas.

[rain ember]

where did he mention the discord

[candid flare]

some kid from here mentioned this place

[candid nexus]

Someone in the comment section mentioned this very discord it was not him directly but it was someone in the comments and I found this discord through a search on youtube. I am glad to have found that comment it seems nice in here. I would like to learn more

[main flume]

@candid nexus The problem with him is not necessarily the AI processing, but how he reacts to criticism with intimidation and threats of lawsuits

he is an objectively bad person

[woven kite]

this made me think of this website https://www.hubble-optics.com/UL18g.html

lowkey i want one

[candid nexus]

My grandson is autistic and he somewhat acts similar when he is through trauma. Has anyone asked why he acts this way? He doesn't appear this way in his live shows which is surprising to hear of this.

[candid flare]

bruh the situation was calmed down

[candid nexus]

I like it!

[teal sandal]

Planetary imaging thread strikes again

[thick heron]

Neat! How's the weather been up there?

Should be a good location for good planetary.

[candid nexus]

The weather shifts where I am some hours its sunny and clear then a nasty thunderstorm can roll through or a large hailstorm. But over all it is nice. I don't like the high clouds that can either come in from north or the gulf at times but I get by. I would like to do planet image and deep sky with a new telescope for my quieter days to come. Are you a fellow Texan, Ethan?

[main flume]

just a couple of ways he acts completely unhinged in peoples DMs. The issue is not his autism, but his narcissism and trying to control his public image. He puts on a friendly face but lashes out at minor criticism, and tries to intimidate people if they don‘t delete negative comments.

He does not deserve an audience

[rain ember]

wow

[candid flare]

he also has interacted with children before

[main flume]

also posting sexual comments with no reason under female astrophotographers

[candid flare]

Also made borderline pron content on YouTube which had millions of views

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If I may. I have seen people do that to him first and if he has what my grandson has its a defense mechanism which I can't hate a person for. The best thing anyone can do at that point is give that person time to cool off or have a reasonable conversation with them. I would let them control it since they are the ones uncomfortable. My grandson has social issues so I would suspect him to be the same.

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I disagree, some people should not be on social media.

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Ok but like-
Yoy cant be going around throwing lawsuits at people.

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how are you defending that

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Im not interested to hear his personal or other situations. I am sure it isn't anything of the likes of other very bad people like Jeff Epstein who is all over the news.

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If you have bad defense mechanisms you should see a psychologists, go offline, and stop harassing people in DMs and X.

[candid nexus]

I am defending it because Brian is a human being who seems to be struggling with anger and it might even be a bad past that is keeping him from loving himself. My grandson has issues too very bad anger problems and I blame his mother but that is a different story. I just like his planets and I think he will find a way to be better

Is it him that harasses them or does someone instigate it? Usually people like this lash out when they are instigated. Has there been proof that hes the one that out of the blue attacks a person because I have yet to see it

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I do not care about that

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Like I said I think hes struggling and maybe people should reach out to him and help him because if he is and people are bashing him I can see why he loses his temper. He is a human like the rest of us.

[rain ember]

there’s no excuse for his actions

[candid nexus]

Him lashing out and defending himself is not a bad action there is always a reason even I would have my reasons if I was forced to defend myself. I have seen some of his posts but chalked it up to him defending himself from other people.

Did he committ a crime or is he just losing his temper and hurting people's feelings? If hes losing his temper then I don't care. Autism hits very close to home for me as my grandson has special needs and if brian has special needs then he should be given some form of care. There is always a reason. Sorry for my rant, this is a sensitive topic due to my own grandson.

I have a great idea. Why don't you all maybe ask him what is wrong? Gossip about him doesn't help. Maybe I will ask him.

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Have a sense of humor. That looks like a harmless pun.

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We know whats wrong.

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I know your discord name is AStormhasCome, Mr. Martin. aka FuturisticHub

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Who?

Where in the world are you seeing that

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the internet is hellava thing ma dude

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brother

We know who you are

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😂

[candid nexus]

That is impossible.

How are you doing that?

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crazy

[teal sandal]

[candid nexus]

Are you hacking me or something?

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discord litterally has tis inbuilt

[candid nexus]

So you hacked my account because that is not me

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absolute cope

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no ones been hacked dude.

[rain ember]

should’ve went on your grandsons account

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discord drama

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That is very immature.

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stop being a creep and get some psychological counseling