Planetary Imaging

[teal sandal]

true

how much data are you planning to get?

[somber stratus]

Idk, was a test more than anything. I'm working on Arp273 first.

up to 1h15m.

[teal sandal]

oh that is epic

was it taken with mono?

[ruby compass]

holy

here is mine (unprocessed. data sucks tho cuz i couldnt get round stars..

[teal sandal]

dam i cant wait to lucky image cat's eye nebula

[ruby compass]

same. if i can find it this year tho

[teal sandal]

@somber stratus I have a target suggestion if ur interested

red rectangle nebula

its larger hexagonal diameter is about 40 arcsecs

quite a challenge

[ruby compass]

hm looks cool

@teal sandal however tom lives in the uk

[teal sandal]

should get to about 23 degrees high

which is quite low

but still possible i believe

[ruby compass]

hm.. no?

midnight in uk

[teal sandal]

its located in serpens

[ruby compass]

huh

[teal sandal]

not to be confused with red rectangle nebula

it

wait

im silly

i was talking about the red rectangle

but google confused it for red square

LMAO

[ruby compass]

that doesnt reach above horizon

[teal sandal]

it does

in winter

[ruby compass]

like 20 degrees

[teal sandal]

yes

my mak isnt capable of bagging it

too tiny

[ruby compass]

my fov

could but no point

[somber stratus]

declination is pretty poor

I need altitude, at least 60 degrees ideally.

So, +22 dec or higher

[sour cradle]

tom
you dont need to downplay your images

tom
u ever thought about directly imaging exoplanets
and i dont mean the brown dwarfs half an arcsec apart from their star
I mean real exoplanets

[somber stratus]

not even sure that's possible

too dim

transit detection works but you don't need a massive scope for that

[sour cradle]

there are alot of things people have thought weren't possible
like okay, what is your limiting mag?

[somber stratus]

Never measured it

But i'd assume something around the 20 range

maybe 21

[sour cradle]

hmm
what resolution do you get down to?

[somber stratus]

0.6" raw is the best i've had

[sour cradle]

well thats theoretically enough resolution to separate Alpha Centauri Ab
but its not that simple of course, you dont have a stellar coronograph

[sour cradle]

hmm WISEPA J171104.60+350036.8
ones a brown dwarf, other is ambiguous, mag 18 ish, 0.8 arcsec separation

[ruby compass]

my limit is 21. i would assume yours is higher. (unless you mean without imaging)

[elder venture]

Wavelet transform

Mind if i process your data?

[ruby compass]

ofc

[ruby compass]

pinged u in the data

[elder venture]

processing now

[elder venture]

Why is it uh

what cam did you use

[ruby compass]

wrong bayer

[ruby compass]

224mc

[elder venture]

any filter?

[ruby compass]

uv/ir cut

[elder venture]

🗿

[elder venture]

what debayer did you use

[ruby compass]

uhm well idk. the correct one 😭

pipp messed it upp tho

just test bayerpatterns untill it look correct

[elder venture]

sir

[ruby compass]

?

[elder venture]

red is on the blue channel

something went wrong

[ruby compass]

uh

yea..

it was correct untill i ran it thru pip 😭

[elder venture]

Its literally just R and B that got swapped for no reason at all

i did the obvious thing of disecting the channels and properly merging them again

[ruby compass]

😭

[ruby compass]

yh

worked?

[elder venture]

yeah its normal now

so BGR

literally reverse colour is what you had lol

[elder venture]

can you do me a favour and run this through grax denoise, my laptop cant do it

please put denoise level to 1 if it doesnt look weird, otherwise to 0.7 - 0.8

[ruby compass]

hm

ill tryu

@elder venture uh

[elder venture]

do what it says good sir

[ruby compass]

cant

[elder venture]

click the advanced panel

[ruby compass]

ik

but it doesnt work

[elder venture]

ok so why cant you

[elder venture]

in what way

[ruby compass]

there are no ai denoise avalible

[elder venture]

huh

guess ill have to torture my laptop

[ruby compass]

i tried atleast

[elder venture]

hmmm

[sour cradle]

u need some decon

[elder venture]

yeahh just wavelet isnt going to cut it

but hey in comparison to this

[sour cradle]

you should use.... smart deblur
(not really, u need the paid version for uneven curves)

[olive saddle]

ohhh my god dude

that's like, kind of insane

I am fascinated by your ability to consistently knock everything out of the park

cannot wait to see the final image

[somber stratus]

You'll be waiting a while. I've got garbage weather over the next (probably) 2 weeks.

Need moar data

[olive saddle]

Ah, I can wait

[rain mauve]

excellent seeing yesterday

[teal sandal]

When you’re lucky imaging a DeepSky object, do you save the files in .fit or a video in .ser

?

[somber stratus]

ser

[teal sandal]

Thanks

[vapid granite]

What inch scope

[somber stratus]

24

[sterile marsh]

Tom you use the x-cel 3x barlow right

[somber stratus]

Not on the 24 since it doesn't reach focus

But I did use one previously on the 16" SW Dob

[sterile marsh]

Great should i use it on the 14 dob

[somber stratus]

Sure, why not. Good bang for buck

[sterile marsh]

I need to improve the Quality of this pic (only 2min without any barlow)

[somber stratus]

Optically it's fine. This is raw under excellent seeing.

[sterile marsh]

I dream of views like this

[sterile marsh]

Also i need to ask do u have any tips on capturing jupiter

[somber stratus]

Idk, normal stuff. Make sure to collimate as best you can and allow the scope to reach ambient temperature. 90% of the work for a good image is done before hitting the capture button tbh.

assuming the atmosphere doesn't give you a hard time

[sterile marsh]

Yeah another thing in buying are the dew heaters

Then i just insert the temperature rod in the eaf to keep the focus perfect

[sterile marsh]

Collimation kills the image so much

[ruby compass]

holy seeing

[summer pebble]

revisited old data, and was wondering if there's some cloud detail on venus? I didn't have a uv filter when imaging so I am a bit doubtful

[silent mesa]

Should I get the zwoasi224mc for my celestron nexstar8se with f/10 or should I get something else like the Uranus c

This is for planetary astrophotography

[thick heron]

I would not consider a ASI224MC at this point unless it's free or extremely cheap.

A camera like the Mars-C II has a sensor size similar to the 224 but the performance of a Uranus-C for less money.

[silent mesa]

Thank you I will look into it

[silent mesa]

Have you ever used the mars c before ?

[dark cargo]

If you are after saving money, a camera with the imx715 sensor could be a good option. Eg qhy715c for $200 usd. It's tiny 1.45um pixel size at F10 gets you the max sampling for planets so you won't need to buy a barlow(at the cost of not being able to go below that). Other cameras usually have a 2.9um pixel size so you would want to get a 2x barlow as well.

[silent mesa]

Would the mars c be a good camera like Ethan suggested?

[dark cargo]

The C-II with the imx662 sensor would be pretty good for planets, but you'd want a 2x barlow to get the maximum details that your scope could give you if you get a really good night of seeing(basically if the atmosphere is really calm).

[dark cargo]

I do have a camera with the same sensor(sv305C but it's worse as it's hardware limited to 53fps no matter what).
If you can afford the barlow as well it's a good option. Didn't have much issues when I did some planetary with it, just need to center the planet in the view with an eyepiece first. Harder to do so with the sensor. Since you have tracking it would be pretty easy to shoot after that.

[silent mesa]

What f ratio was your scope?

I have an f/10

[dark cargo]

F6 8" dob, so I needed a barlow.
I'm basing the "maximum sampling/barlow" on the following formula:
Max barlow power = 7 times pixel size in um divided by focal ratio

[silent mesa]

I have a Barlow lens but for some of these 2.9 micron cameras they don’t match with my f ratio according to the 5 times rule

If I’m wrong about these can you let me know

[dark cargo]

Try using the formula above(using 7 gets you the max, but replacing it with 5 works too). It will give you the barlow power that you'd need to get to that point, should be around 2x barlow with 2.9um pixel size.

You can also vary the magnification of the barlow by placing it closer or futher away from the camera. Unless you have a focal extender which is fixed.

[silent mesa]

Ok thank you

[teal sandal]

mono planetary soon

[teal sandal]

Is there a nina plugin to platesolve to a planet?

[terse night]

Orbitals

I think it's called

[teal sandal]

How does it work

You just have planets in ur target list and u simply platesolve to it?

[terse night]

You select a planet in the imaging tab and you can frame it in the framing tab (the planet obviously doesn't appear there) but it's where the planet is, so you just ask nina to slew there normally

You can also set the correct tracking rate for that planet

[teal sandal]

Oh dam

Nice

I’m def gonna use it

I want to map-out Jupiter

So it will be useful to set my rig to image all night long

[unkempt igloo]

I started with less than that dude you should be supportive. Offer an upgrade path with a positive outlook and encourage peeps that are here. The "EW" is a you problem.

[unkempt igloo]

@silent mesa Absolutely I have owned one and depending how hard you get into planetary and the size of your scope you will be good for at least 5+ years. I originally only upgraded because I was at 8200mm FL but with very average tracking of my home made EQ platform for my 16" dob. If I was at 6000mm or less I would still have it.

[untold spear]

?

[unkempt igloo]

Mars CII ? Did I reply to the wrong person ? Or when was that written lol

Sorry mate 😐

I have fixed it

[thick heron]

You aren't going to plate solve to a planet with a small sensor like the Ceres 462M.

It's still iffy even with a large sensor like the IMX585 without a barlow.

[limber reef]

Good fov for saturn 😭😭

[elder heath]

Insane

[limber reef]

2x barlow

[candid flare]

🚮

[limber reef]

My setup is so bad

[white prawn]

Is it unreasonable to want that sensor size?

[silent mesa]

Would it be good for an 8 inch sct with f/10?

[unkempt igloo]

Absolutely be great

[dark cargo]

For planetary the resolution is what sets the field of view(since if you want x arcseconds per pixel each pixel will see the same amount of the sky with the right barlow). It would have the same effective field of view as a 585(as both are 4K sensors). Since he has a goto scope it should not be an issue anyway.

[silent mesa]

Better than the Uranus c?

[white prawn]

So for someone who has a 585 already, not really

[unkempt igloo]

No but it's about a 1/3 the price of a 585c @silent mesa

[dark cargo]

Would let you get to the max sampling easier but probably not worth the money since you already have a 585.

[silent mesa]

Sorry for all the questions but you would say this would be a great first Astro camera considering my set up

[unkempt igloo]

Absolutely, you will not need better especially if you stay below 16". You may want better but you will not need better.

[silent mesa]

Ok thank you very much

[teal sandal]

I was able to platesolve with no problems with a 664 and no Barlow

But it requires some tinkering

[teal sandal]

Is svbony sv183 a good ir pass filter

I mean it’s not made of plastic right

[elder venture]

i mean

theres better

astronomiks (the brand the man the myth the legend tom uses) are pretty good

cheaper aswell (at least here)

[teal sandal]

How are they better

?

[thick heron]

Pretty sure the Astronomik IR-pass filters leak blue light.

[elder venture]

really? i didnt notice at the star party i got to test the 807

[elder venture]

take what i say with a grain of salt but astronomik has better quality control with less halos and reflections from what I could tell

i must say this isnt based on the ir-pass of svbony since i never tried that one

but im just applying what ive heard and what i know from the test of the 807

[rugged knoll]

i don't have any ir pass but i have svbonys uvir cut and i can confirm the halos and reflections are insane

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus got anymore deep sky imaged?

[somber stratus]

nah, shit weather

[ruby compass]

Dang

[ruby compass]

I added more data on m57 tho! Now outershell is very slightly vissible

More realistic process btw (aka not overprocessed)

[digital steppe]

what gear are you using

[ruby compass]

Zwo asi 224mc homemade eq platform and a skywatcher classic 200p dob

[summer pebble]

soooooo because i'm not part of the lucky 85% of the world that will experience the lunar eclipse, i thought i'd just revisit the one back from march and give it another shot at improving the looks of it

[rugged knoll]

i missed the one in march due to clouds

i have seen one in my life and it was the lame partial one

[white prawn]

How does one get it to appear red in the photo? I've imaged a partial lunar eclipse and while it looked red to me it was just dark on the camera.

[sour cradle]

your eye naturally has a very high dynamic range, so you have to hdr

but the above image is/was cooked to hell

[white prawn]

You'd dang well better have meant that pun in the second sentence.

[sour cradle]

what
what pun im stupid

[white prawn]

Red moon.

Cooked to hell.

[sour cradle]

thats not a pun

[white prawn]

I thought it was a clever positioning.

[sour cradle]

idk man

[summer pebble]

dark like this?

[white prawn]

More like this

[summer pebble]

oh, right you said parital eclipse

yeah like what they said, our eyes naturally have hdr

so to bring out close to what your eyes see, you'd need to do a bit of compositing

i just decided to take mine way past that point

[white prawn]

The one full lunar eclipse photo I got was a series of single shots on my DSLR.

[left spindle]

the one time i m lucky that i m in India

[olive saddle]

nice photos of Earth

[dense burrow]

repost from

bruh sent early

#🤓-ask-a-nerd

to prepare for the upcoming occultation of moon and venus on the 19th, how do i stack a photo of an occultation? do i stack them seperately or what
i really just wanna take a snap of them close together though, im gonna watch the occultation when it happens

[flint siren]

For the contact, don't record for too long and use surface mode, as for emergence.

You can calculate your capture using your sampling and how much the moon moves, using how much pixels of motion AS!4 can handle without artefacting.

[dense burrow]

thats the thing, im not gonna photograph the contact

i want to observe the contact

[flint siren]

then you just do classic captures for both

like crop as hell on Venus so there's no moon in the field, and 'just moon' captures on the other hand

then you comp by taking position measures

my method though

[dense burrow]

hmm ill see

thank you!

[thick heron]

Or you capture all of it in one video and use the limit feature in AS!4 to stack small slices.

[elder venture]

Since a lot of you folk have goto lightbuckets at 16inches or beyond; Whats the highest exposure time you could do of a DSO sub that was viable?

[somber stratus]

5 sec maybe

[sour cradle]

hey
would you guys guess that a 1um longpass filter would be good for a swir camera
or would you have any other ideas? interesting planetary bands in the range of 1um to 1.7um?

[thick heron]

I can't say anything about SWIR other than high read noise and 🤑.

[sour cradle]

think of the seeing improvement tho

[thick heron]

Longer wavelengths decrease the resolving power of a telescope.

[sour cradle]

I know
but thats not important

[somber stratus]

Well, it is when talking about SWIR

Even my 24” in 1.6 micron would only have the same resolution as an 8” scope in VIS.

It’s trash. A step up on NIR

[summer pebble]

Movement of Saturn's moons
And some detail moving on Saturn as well?

[somber stratus]

Yeah definitely some planetary rotation visible.

[summer pebble]

Awesome!

[sour cradle]

its worth it for the bands

[sour cradle]

Plus like for you people image planetary on 8 inch scopes like thats not even that bad

[teal sandal]

Mono planets time

[olive saddle]

Radiant Saturn

[low oar]

The moon orbiting into the earths shadow

By me

[unkempt igloo]

Well done Kenny 👍

[low oar]

Jupiter and Io this morning

[somber isle]

Crazy cool

[low oar]

Thanks

[tired grove]

awesome stuff

how long can I get away with shooting Saturn to capture the moon transit tonight? I know rotation doesn't really matter for Saturn like it does for Jupiter but if I want to capture the shadow clearly how long should I do?

[low oar]

It does matter and for my Saturn videos I do 2 minutes on the dot

[tired grove]

awesome, how far did you space out the captures for that?

[low oar]

Hmmm I think I pressed record at every 5 minute market

Marker

Like press record at 10:00 10:05 10:10

So record for 2 minute wait 3 then record 2 min wait 3

I think

I think

[tired grove]

okay cool I was going to try to do 5 minute increments anyway

thanks!!

[elder venture]

@somber stratus bossman hows the weather looking

im excited to see what you can do with jupiter

[somber stratus]

Actually not too bad for the middle of next week

@sharp ridge is in the area for Uni so might be able to get both scopes out with the extra pair of hands

[elder venture]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

looking forward to it

[somber stratus]

No promises. Seeing has a habit of being good when you least expect it, and surprisingly poor otherwise

[elder venture]

as everything does. no matter the seeing im interested in it

[somber stratus]

Supposed seeing on Thurs.

But I've seen this be wrong in the past.

[elder venture]

oo what site is that?

[somber stratus]

https://www.skippysky.com.au/

Only has maps for NA, Europe and Australia

[cold torrent]

What camera did you use kenny?

[somber isle]

@somber stratus did you build your 24" ?

[flint siren]

He mentioned it countless time before, no.

[somber isle]

Okkk then

[elder venture]

He bought it at a cheap price, he did not build it.

[white prawn]

Just going to say that's absolutely correct. I've had some clear nights that I've stayed inside because of seeing. I've also left a company get-together early because seeing was on-point beautiful. That's the one I got my best Jupiter from. Hasn't been like that since though. 🙁

[olive saddle]

I just wanna say I dig the matching pfp's with Yoships

[somber isle]

It does look Tuff doesn't it 😛

[low oar]

Uranus C

[elder venture]

I need some assistance from the planetary nerds here

how doable is a mono-only planetary setup?

(assuming a 585 sensor)

[rugged knoll]

i think you may have some trouble with jupiter

Everything else should be fine tho

[somber stratus]

You need a filter wheel and stuff so it's inherently more complex but Ethan and some others use mono-only.

[thick heron]

Perfectly fine, but not a huge benefit like DSO imaging.

[somber stratus]

completely viable

[thick heron]

Mono is great for going outside the visible spectrum.

It's better for IR, especially below 850nm, and essential for UV.

[elder venture]

That I will have, good to hear

Thanks a lot you two

[elder venture]

Are there any changes to I should know like max Barlow or something of that nature?

[thick heron]

No.

I use both with the exact same imaging train.

[elder venture]

Alright great thank you

[somber stratus]

f/ratio of 5-7x pixel size and you can't go wrong tbh.

[teal sandal]

Ir pass is here

Now I’m fully ready for Saturn opposition, sadly I’ll be able to access my scope only on the weekend

[livid sierra]

Uhm opposition was last weekend.

[elder venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248873743116140586/1273203966024487003/ezgif-2-db49a54415.gif

[untold spear]

They changed the logo, I got the old one

[teal sandal]

Oops

[low oar]

Jupiter a couple days ago, the 19th I believe

[tired grove]

what planet is that

[tired grove]

brilliant

[heavy mirage]

I think your WJ times/outline alignment are a bit messed up, it looks a bit blurred rotation wise.

I'm not saying it looks bad, just some feedback

Actually on a second look maybe was just due to seeing

[low oar]

Oh please feedback is accepted

Can you elaborate

I have the winjupos file capture thing enabled for the time and such

And my seeing was amazing

[heavy mirage]

When you do the image measurements in winjupos just be sure that the outline matches your focal length and pixel size, and be sure that it is rotated to be as close as possible to match the west-east of the planet. I'm not sure if you use an AZ mount but if you do ensure to account for field rotation correctly

I would also mess with LD value a bit I usually use .65 for both value and angle

[low oar]

I feel like I do all that correctly

I’m reprocessing now at 10% stack

I don’t have field rotation

[low oar]

What’s that?

I usually put it at .95

[somber stratus]

Yummy

3 mins

[low oar]

Wow

[remote cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-the-house-hes-cheating-cheater-gif-8225031

[heavy mirage]

As I understand it helps to make the edges a bit softer

Put it at .7 both value and angle and enable it and see what happens

[ruby compass]

3mins?!

[summer pebble]

Holy smokes just 3 min for that

[low oar]

Alright

[somber stratus]

Orbital motion of both Uranus (against the 3 BG stars) and its moons. Rings as a bonus

pretty neat

[elder venture]

Excuse me did you get a live view of uranus' rings???

[somber stratus]

That's a timelapse of single stacks, so not live view per se

[digital steppe]

Whoa

[digital steppe]

Do you know how large the separation of the rings from the planet are, and their magnitude

[somber stratus]

around the same as a mag 18 star

[elder venture]

still impressive

[olive saddle]

I do wonder if it's at all possible to see Uranus' rings in the live view of an eyepiece, perhaps with a titanically massive Newtonian sitting atop somewhere with super stable atmosphere, like the Canaries

Unless at that point, the brightness of Uranus would just wash out the brightness of the rings, and increasing aperture would just make it worse?

[sour cradle]

it is possible
you just need to be in orbit of uranus

[olive saddle]

ah, that easy!

[somber stratus]

Nah

it's simply too close to the glare of Uranus

If it was by itself, absolutely. It's comparable to a mag +18 star in brightness.

The problem lies with it being 1 arcsec from a mag 5 object

[olive saddle]

I was afraid of that, oh well

[white prawn]

So did we just discuss the fact that viewing the rings of Uranus would be something of a ... planetary pain?

[olive saddle]

One could even say, well... ah, I won't. The jokes write themselves.

[teal sandal]

Are Hubble optics mirrors better than SW?

[elder venture]

part of the reason their scopes are so damn expensive

they make REALLY REALLY nice mirrors

[sharp ridge]

Yep

Quality of scopes in general is quite good, well engineered

[elder venture]

@iron night Just get a 12'' dobsonian on an EQ-Platform

Allows you to point your scope at the planet and track the sky for around 1.5 hours

most cost effective solution

EQ mounts are basically not needed in Planetary stuff

[iron night]

How much is an eq mount?

Oh, dumb question, its on it 🤦 😂

[elder venture]

That can hold a 12''? A shit ton

Like 1700

for jsut the mount

[iron night]

Explore scientific has a 12" dob on the mount for $2000, and a 16" dob on the mount for $3600, im wanting a bigger aperture telescope, so I'll probably save up for the 16 inch option, but I dont know if the mounts are motorized

[elder venture]

Dobsonian mounts arent motorized, usually, especially from explore scientific

Hence the EQ platform, you put the entire manual scope on it and once you center your object manually, it tracks the sky for roughly 1 hour and 30 mins

[iron night]

I found a 12" dob on a motorized platform from sky watcher for $2,850

[elder venture]

Those are completely motorized and in my opinion, not worth it

[elder venture]

Are you in the US or Canada?

[iron night]

Where should I buy the eq platform from?

[iron night]

US

[elder venture]

Local Retailers

[elder venture]

CloudyNights is a site for used astrophotography stuff, go check there for dobsonians

you usually get a few nice used deals for motorized ones

[iron night]

Ok, thank you for the tips, but I gotta get to class, im in school right now

[somber stratus]

GoTo Dob is also fine

Probably a similar price to an EQ plaform

and a lot easier to use

[elder venture]

Around here 12'' dobs without tracking cost 400 used

goto 12'' dobs go for like 1500

[somber stratus]

A good EQ platform can be near 1000 i'd found, but maybe you can find a reasonably priced one. Even so, I think it's worth the extra money to get full goto functionality.

[elder venture]

There's a lot of things in astronomy and astrophotography that are worth the extra money - but quite a few people don't have that extra money.

Theres a guy located in europe that makes pretty good Aluminum EQ-Platforms for 500 bucks so it will still be cheaper.

[somber stratus]

Well aware. Just I've known people take the EQ platform route and end up regretting it, wishing they'd gotten a goto kit initially, even if it took a few more months to save up.

[elder venture]

True, though at times the difference is pretty gigantic

[somber stratus]

Sometimes just a case of keeping an eye out for second hand deals. That's how I found my 24

I also saw plenty of smaller aperture scopes in the months I was looking

[elder venture]

What exactly is a "smaller aperture scope" to you?

[somber stratus]

8-12

when concerning Dobs

[elder venture]

i see

[thin aspen]

Definitely in the uk used deals are crazy, so worth waiting for those to pop up. Got goto 10in for £500 and 16in for £800 so you never know what might pop up.

[summer pebble]

I plan to image the iss for the first time soon and hand track it

what's a reasonable exposure length to use before blurring becomes apparent

[low oar]

pretty sure 1ms is good

if your using a planetary capture software

which one is better

left - og
right - reprocess

[hasty hull]

I like right more

[low oar]

👍

[low oar]

1 more

[elder venture]

Hows it looking now?

[somber stratus]

Trash this morning. Lower altitudes winds ruined it

[elder venture]

awh

[native plume]

i think 1 or 0.5ms

[low oar]

What do you use for seeing prediction

[low oar]

about a year ago

[somber stratus]

Windy.com, looking at the temperature and wind profile

[low oar]

nie

nice

[somber stratus]

A write-up of my findings over the years. I wrote this about a year ago

[low oar]

oh wow

thats really cool

ok tom for my future

do i invest in a massive dob?

[somber stratus]

If your seeing allows, sure.

[low oar]

ahh

i feel like my version of good seeing is different than yours

this was quite well the other morining

[somber stratus]

Looks average based on the NPR. The contrast/resolve on the small bluish storms near the pole are a good indicator of seeing.

[white prawn]

That looks really blurred IMO

[low oar]

Hmm

Well I am using a cheap Barlow

I do need to invest in a better one

[elder venture]

How cheap?

[low oar]

No telling lol

[white prawn]

Cheap Barlow will definitely … not compliment an otherwise great photo.

I had a decent inexpensive one (multi component, treated glass) from Astromania. Now have a Celestron X-cel Barlow

[rugged knoll]

this looks like winjupos fcked up tbh

rotational blur

[low oar]

Dang rly?

Anyone wanna edit my stacks?

I have them all in a drive folder

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Q-Ty-ADh6a9KuB8b1xXpsS1LLDErsUCu?usp=sharing

here is a drive link to 10, 25, and 75 percent stacks

whoever can open it and test the files if you would like or have time

[unkempt igloo]

EQ platform is a different thing entirely but can be made on the cheap and to a reasonable std quite easy.

As Tom said lots of positives for both but if your Goto scope is ascom compatible with good tracking then Goto is the best option.

[low oar]

I found Neptune

[terse night]

@somber stratus are you familiar with Dob-Driver by any chance?

I'm eyeing out this 16" dob and it's motorised using one of those

[thick heron]

It's an old system. If it works, it works.

Consider that you're possibly on your own if it breaks. Guessing Tech2000 is no longer in business.

Probably uses off-the-shelf components so if you're handy in repairing electronics or know someone who is it might not be an issue if it breaks.

Most discussion I can find about it is from 20+ years ago. Less information on it than the SkyCommander/SkyTracker system on our Starmaster dob.

[terse night]

Mmh, thanks

How would you go about motorising one instead? There's another dob for sale with the same mirrors but not motorised (cheaper, of course).

[thick heron]

Probably ServoCat is you want relatively easy or OnStepX for cheaper if you don't mind DIYing it.

[elder venture]

Is there a guide to OnStepX?

[thick heron]

I'm sure there is but I don't use it.

[teal sandal]

should i use mono 8 or mono 16 when doing UV or IR planetary with a 462m?

[flint siren]

8 bits, 16 is only for faint stuff which signal is near black

[teal sandal]

what applies for faint stuff in terms of planetary?

[flint siren]

faint moons (Phobos, Deimos, Amaltea, moons of Uranus), niche stuff (Uranus ring and nightside)

[teal sandal]

ooo i see

thanks man

@flint siren should i do uv venus in f12 or 24?

its kinda smalll right now and i want some cloud details...

it will be quite bright...

[flint siren]

For small apertures like mine, i would say 24 as i myself do it at 26. It helps with wavelets.

[teal sandal]

i agree, thanks

[teal sandal]

Okay I’ll have to wake up at 4 am somehow

But finally rolling out my mak for planets

Can’t wait

[low oar]

I finally complete my solar system

[teal sandal]

Finished shooting mono data on jups, getting some color data now

Next stop Venus

[rugged knoll]

ouch

looks like really bad seeing

[teal sandal]

Yes

It is

But there are some good moments

[low oar]

Wait that’s Jupiter?

[sour cradle]

jupiter when you have seeing with an rms the size of jupiter

[teal sandal]

Seeing was absolutely awful

Luckily I got a lot of data so there is some stuff to choose from

[low oar]

Some close ups from last night

The Moon and Planets scaled to apparent size from Earth

[dense burrow]

this goes so hard dude

[dense burrow]

this is also amazing ive always loved apparent size comparisons

[low oar]

Thanks

[teal sandal]

the lil mak is out of collimation

😭

i dont want to touch its collimation screws

can these artefacts be caused by such collimation?

[thick heron]

I'm gonna guess pinched optics.

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/advice/understanding-optical-aberrations

Star test would be more useful.

[teal sandal]

5 uncollimated inches are still alive

[teal sandal]

wasnt able to do a star test tn cuz of terrible seeing

[shell epoch]

Yes

[low oar]

Ethan, you have a c11 right?

[thick heron]

I have used an EdgeHD 11 in the past

[unkempt igloo]

Here is the Groups.io link https://onstep.groups.io/g/main . I am in that group because of my 24" dob and its Onstep system

[low oar]

How do you collimate I feel mine is always off

I don’t have a adc that could be a problem

[thick heron]

Go out of focus on a star centered in the FOV just enough to see a small ring with a spot inside. You need to get the spot centered inside the ring. Going far enough out to see it as a doughnut is too imprecise for final adjustment. Hold your hand in front of the corrector plate towards a screw on the inside and you'll see a shadow in the ring. Tightening that screw will move the spot towards your shadow and loosening will move it away. Make sure to re-center as you make adjustments until the dot is centered in the ring.

[low oar]

Well that’s what I do hha

Until it’s perfect

I probably can’t complain I’m doing it wrong until I get a adc and better Barlow

[buoyant belfry]

over processed shit thru 50mm

at least we got the red spot

saturn thru 50mm

venus thru 50mm

mercury thru 50mm

marz thru 50mm

[livid sierra]

Whats ur aperture size?

[buoyant belfry]

50mm bro

[buoyant belfry]

i said it like 5 times previously💀

[flint siren]

He's trolling in case you didn't know

[somber stratus]

sarcasm bro

[elder venture]

Oh damn what aperture

[buoyant belfry]

okay what does he mean?

[buoyant belfry]

u trolling too?

tf is goin on😭🙏

can any body explain why are they trolling?

[livid sierra]

It’s funny because you specified that it was a 50mm telescope with every single image, we got it after the first time

[buoyant belfry]

dayam

guys if u dont know... my apterture is 50mm

[untold spear]

I think it's 50mm aperture

[buoyant belfry]

yeah its 50mm

a little bit different than 50mm

but 50mm is greate since 50mm doesnt have the ability of a 50mm

[low oar]

Do you have a big telescope @buoyant belfry

?

[buoyant belfry]

not rn but i will get a 6" in a few days

[low oar]

6 inch can do a lot

If you have a good camera

[rugged knoll]

[hasty hull]

kinda cute Saturn w the 6” dob, first time out in a while and rough seeing but was nice to image

[buoyant belfry]

i have a phone camera so

[low oar]

Anyone here have experience with a tri bahtinov mask?

For collimation?

For a sct

[silent mesa]

I just got my first dedicated Astro camera and I’m having trouble actually seeing it on my computer. I read the manual online and it says to look through the eyepiece then insert the camera. I’ve probably tried this a million times and still have not seen it. I’m not sure if i put it in to fast and it moves it or the camera is too zoomed in or something else entirely.

[livid sierra]

I recommend centering the object in the EP, then aligning the finderscope. If necessary switch to an eyepiece that's more zoomed in and align the finderscope again. If you don't have tracking it's useful to do this on Polaris because it doesn't move. When you've aligned the finderscope you can switch to the camera and look for the object again. But remember that your camera will have a different focus point to the EP.

You can make it easier by overexposing to see the unfocused object. Once you've found it, bring back the exposure to a normal value.

[silent mesa]

K

[digital steppe]

What do y’all recommend for a good planetary stacking software with an easy learning curve

[digital steppe]

Are you having trouble finding objects, or are you not seeing anything also what’s the aperture and fl of your scope

[silent mesa]

i had trouble before but i relized i need to turn up the gain to find it and then focus

[ruby compass]

Aatro surface

[somber stratus]

Autostakkert!4 for stacking, Astrosurface for processing said stacked image.

[low oar]

Autostakkert 4

[ancient kelp]

oh man we can’t even post images here

[somber stratus]

New members can't iirc. You need to post images to https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1127675764356173885 or https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1230540085418524773 I think. Check with a mod though.

[ancient kelp]

No problem thanks

[ruby compass]

Yo Tom. Got any tips on getting sharper planetary images?

[somber stratus]

This is such a broad question with an even broader answer. What issues do you have specifically?

[ruby compass]

i feel like an 8" has a higher potential then what im getting at best

it could deff be that my old barlow was horrid but yea

wish i could send images here 😭

[low oar]

Why can’t you

Basically, get a good camera, collimate well, and get good seeing

Once you have the data you just spend time testing all sorts of editing techniques and you have a nice pic

[ruby compass]

not mini nerd somehow

[low oar]

Ah

Jupiter and Callisto October 2nd

[woven kite]

image perms butchered

why they do that

[sour cradle]

reasons

[woven kite]

urrrg

[low oar]

The Blue Lake

October 5th

[elder venture]

You lack protostar premium

[elder venture]

To some dyi dob peeps: any kits which support Meade Lightbridges for Goto (other than servocat)

[ruby compass]

what does that mean?

[ruby compass]

its upside down

[low oar]

Yea lol

I fixed it after I sent it

[ruby compass]

Ok

[fading plume]

@ancient kelp @ruby compass @woven kite you guys should be good to go now

[ancient kelp]

Tysm

[low oar]

Reprocess

[ruby compass]

Yeah thanks 🙂

[ruby compass]

Why does ganimede look sharper than jupiter?

Had some cool northern lights this monday

[native plume]

oh i cant send pics anymore what

[low oar]

🤷‍♂️

Callisto btw

[ruby compass]

yh mb

[ruby compass]

Blue lake (ina)

[candid flare]

[low oar]

Nice

[left spindle]

cool

[low oar]

Tonight’s moon

[flint siren]

Astigmo

[fading plume]

You can now.

[native plume]

thanks

[somber stratus]

Poopiter this morning

[ruby compass]

Nicee. Also shot jupiter but seeing was so horrid that I couldnt even see bands😭

Also where where the moons? I didnt see any when imaging

Nvm Io was behind and the other moons where just far away

[ruby compass]

Yo could someone Derotate my saturn data?

swedish time btw

[flint siren]

Looking at one of those stacks, it's not worthy of derotation.

Way too noisy

[ruby compass]

thats why thay need derotation. too noisy

i stacked 5% in each video

[flint siren]

yeah but at this point just focus on getting better data

[livid sierra]

There is probably no detail in your data, might as well just do a stack of stacks. Not worth going through the trouble of derotating like Yoships said.

[ruby compass]

there is detail

[ruby compass]

horrid seeing

[livid sierra]

Saturn is also very small in the frame, and for some reason not centred? And there's also not much colour for some reason.

[livid sierra]

Hard doubt, but okay.

[flint siren]

Nah, there's no detail on the globe. Derotation is not so worth when there's no globe detail.

[low oar]

I use a c11 and I don’t get detail

lol

If you want detail get a ir filter

Blend some bands

[flint siren]

U don't use it correctly then.

Or have trash seeing.

[ruby compass]

wym?

[ruby compass]

pefect focus

[flint siren]

With such an SNR, there's no way you got detail on the globe. Those lil storms need better SNR to be seen.

[flint siren]

Doesn't matter if you have trash seeing or if you're stacking a too low %

or both (even worse)

[livid sierra]

He meant to try getting new, better data. Not to get better focus..

Unless you are very focused on getting better data already. I take it back then.

[low oar]

No like storms and stuff lol

I didn’t even look at devs data lol

[flint siren]

Yeah i know, they're accessible to at 8" and probably smaller.

[low oar]

Yea very rarely in rgb though

[flint siren]

They should appear if you push the wavelets

[low oar]

🤷‍♂️

I like to keep it smooth

I need a ir filter asap

[flint siren]

I meant just to see them

[low oar]

Yea yea

[rain mauve]

moon w/clouds

[ruby compass]

literally looks ai 😭 🙏

crazy

[rain mauve]

Fun fact, I told AI to make a picture about clouds surround the moon

Here's the reference

[rain mauve]

But nah, I don't like things being like AI thing, so I tried re create with assests that I have and this is the result

[ruby compass]

here

@flint siren

[flint siren]

Did you use Siril to stack that ?

[ruby compass]

no astrosurface

why?

[flint siren]

Well use AS4!, there's a grid artefact

[ruby compass]

i tried AS4

[flint siren]

Plus your seeing is pretty bad from what i can tell

[ruby compass]

dunno how to get it to work correct tho

[ruby compass]

it was bad seeing yes but moon was quite high

[flint siren]

well use surface mode, set a quality estimator value based onto SNR, click analyse, place big ap points, set a stacking percentage and click stack

[ruby compass]

aight 1 sec

[flint siren]

or watch a tutorial

AS4! is pretty intuitive

[ruby compass]

well i know how to use AS3 so shouldnt be too hard

[flint siren]

it's the same

[ruby compass]

@flint siren what do i use?

[flint siren]

depends, go for 4

[ruby compass]

k

local or global?

[flint siren]

global

[ruby compass]

k

@flint siren okay u want 5 10 or 20%? (5000frames total)

[flint siren]

Depends on ur data

Can u screenshot the quality estimator and the best raw frame ?

[ruby compass]

sure

[flint siren]

5-10%

[ruby compass]

think 10 should be good

[flint siren]

try 5

[ruby compass]

k

lmk if too noisy

[flint siren]

stack in tiff btw

[ruby compass]

why?

do i restack or is it fine?

[flint siren]

nah don't but it's just a more common file format to use

[ruby compass]

yh

[flint siren]

and there not much to do with the data

Lacks seeing

[ruby compass]

:/

i see ina tho

[flint siren]

yeah but that's nothing crazy

[ruby compass]

yh

[flint siren]

it's just a cult in this server

For example of what it should look like with better seeing, that's a stack with the 183MM & R filter at native.

50 frames stacked

[ruby compass]

natvie? thats crazy

50 frames?!

where is the noise? 😭

[flint siren]

well it's the moon

it's supposed to be high SNR

[ruby compass]

ye but u gotta shoot at 10ms

[flint siren]

this was 6 ms

[ruby compass]

oh wait nvm im stupid

u used native

i was at f17.6

[flint siren]

With better seeing, you use less wavelets and thus it doesn't enhance the noise that much

[ruby compass]

dang

i mean i have had good seeing in the past but most of it was sadly when i used my horrid barlow

i now have a celstron xcel lx 3x

[native plume]

where is ina located

[ruby compass]

in the gray banana looking thing

[ruby compass]

btw i got some crazy ir lunar data from yesterday. ill try to stack it in AS4.

[thick heron]

Spot the moons.

[native plume]

theres multiple?

1 near the right side 1 on top of the grs
i think

[ruby compass]

i see io and either europa or amaletha over great red spot

@somber stratus PLEASE do Ina now that moon is great 😭

[ruby compass]

ina from yesterday

[wind basin]

https://link.brawlstars.com/invite/gameroom/nl?tag=XWNJZTFT

[native plume]

what

[low oar]

@somber stratus when is the new Saturn image from yesterday coming?

[low oar]

Double Shadow Transit

[thick heron]

Grayscale Io

[low oar]

By Io and Eurpoa

[low oar]

do what?

Low quality seeing^^^

[ruby compass]

Jupiter In IR and Vis. (horrid seeing)

ca 42 Degress over horizon

[low oar]

What ir filter you use?

[ruby compass]

sv183

its 685nm

c:

seeing was really bad tho

[ruby compass]

also bro how do i improve my images?

[tiny topaz]

What scope and camera are you using? Plus a major factor is seeing

[ruby compass]

8"dob and zwo asi 224mc

@low oar actual cool data for ones. Ina in color.

[flint siren]

better seeing

[ruby compass]

im not tom gng

😭

[flint siren]

you don't need tom's seeing to hit diffraction limit at 8"

[ruby compass]

u sure?

[flint siren]

yeah, what is that question ?

Less aperture, less res and thus less seeing needing

[ruby compass]

well with my avarage of 2arc/s im not getting there 😭

final image. (ir and vis combined. ir for detail and vis for colors.)

[flint siren]

Well show a vid and i'll tell you if it's worth trying more planetary

Like i'm sure you can work something out in NIR

[ruby compass]

of my latest data or best ever?

[flint siren]

best ever if you have the vid

[ruby compass]

that was in exelent seeing but unfortentently i was using my old barlow 😭

[flint siren]

Like this was done under some horrid seeing, 850nm.

[ruby compass]

but you are tom but with an 8" 😭

[flint siren]

what does that mean ?

[ruby compass]

you take insane images

[flint siren]

well thanks but i'm sure you can still achive good images with your current setup

[ruby compass]

i can. just october seeing is usualöly horrible here

[low oar]

Big scope, collimation to a point, seeing

That’s it

[thick heron]

For these images I think sharpening could be toned down and color balanced worked on

[white prawn]

Okay ... PLEASE tell me that this is a program artifact from Windows photos showing tif, not what I should actually expect when I start processing.

[somber stratus]

what data even is this? Doesn't look like Jupiter from the timestamp

as in, 2025 Jupiter

Moon shadow is cast onto the northern hemi

[thick heron]

Why are you processing the default Jupiter video for FC's camera simulator?

It's a very short loop, you won't get much from it no matter how long you record.

[white prawn]

OHH I'M AN IDIOT

https://tenor.com/view/why-me-facepalm-stressed-star-trek-gif-14598957

[somber stratus]

You mean to say I can't copy paste 1M frames to increase SNR. My day is ruined

[white prawn]

In my defense I was just moving data, found the ser file, and worked it thinking that, "oh, I must have done something and forgotten about it!"

Didn't think that the thing I forgot was to press record on the FC dummy cam footage.

[low oar]

My Best Jupiter

more to come from this data

Gyanamede bottom right infront of disk

[low oar]

Is this better?

[tiny topaz]

What’s the aperture?

I think both Jupiters look the same except one is more zoomed in but I kind of like the zoomed out one more

[low oar]

11 inches

I added more color that’s all

[tiny topaz]

Ah okay, I wish I had a larger dob with go to 😔

[low oar]

SCT

[rugged knoll]

the edge feels unnaturally sharp for the amount of detail on the surface

[low oar]

Interesting

I’ll fix

[ruby compass]

Ina easily resolved

[low oar]

I think I’m happy with this as the final one

[ruby compass]

@low oar how do I know where C6 Lemmon is rn?

Cuz I cant find it on stellarium

[low oar]

A6

[ruby compass]

A6*

[low oar]

Isk it’s there for me

Just search that

[ruby compass]

Huh

[somber isle]

What's your setup?

[low oar]

C11, cheap barrow, Uranus c

[ruby compass]

Had great seeing. really quick saturn stack in ir

fixed weird thingy

[cursive marsh]

Hey i also did saturn

Had bad seeing though

And i used my phone lol

[low oar]

After more derotation this is officially the final image

a lot better than the previous one

[native plume]

woah how did you do that

[teal sandal]

@somber stratus is it possible to image in MWIR with your scope? The resolution will drop but your aperture should compensate it well enough to bring out something…🤔 like Jovian auroras?

[somber stratus]

Not sure. Would optimally need a gold coated mirror similar to JWST, and an InGaAs sensor at minimum.

I think SWIR is accessible. Still need an InGaAs sensor though.

[teal sandal]

InGaAs is a luxury buy iirc

I would be interested to see somebody realise that idea

[somber stratus]

Also Earth's own absorption bands become very limiting.

[teal sandal]

So there won’t be a lot of contrast cuz of them?

And more dim

[somber stratus]

Potentially near invisible depending on the band. Much similar to UV and X-ray, it's all blocked.

UV below 300nm*

[teal sandal]

Dang, the atmosphere does not want us to see other auroras

1 micron sounds more accessible, is there something interesting on jups in that wavelength?

[somber stratus]

Not really. I used my 1 micron filter on it before. Just another CH4 band that has less contrast.

[teal sandal]

Dang. It’s time to put amateur scopes in space

[somber stratus]

shit version of 889nm

[teal sandal]

How does it go for Saturn?

[somber stratus]

again similar

[somber stratus]

star bottom left

[teal sandal]

I can see some brighter bands at the poles but I guess it’s similar in 889nm.

[somber stratus]

Note this was during ** full ** daytime. That's one benefit is Rayleigh scattering is near-zero compared to VIS.

[teal sandal]

Ooo daytime is cool

Is this with the 24?

[somber stratus]

16

[teal sandal]

Nice

Thanks for the knowledge

[low oar]

just center the moon

[flint siren]

I dare you to say that again

[somber stratus]

it is though

worse resolution and lower contrast

[ruby compass]

Tom you think u could crack a chance at my ina data? You are really good at processing moon lol

[somber stratus]

Not much to it tbh. Just sharpen without pushing it too far.

[ruby compass]

Thats the issue. I always push it too far😭

Here is my process. (Ir data for detail and vis for color)

[flint siren]

It's different, different contrast not just worse

Looks smoother

[low oar]

You can only process what your scope and seeing let you process

[ruby compass]

Yh

[brisk yacht]

whatt

thats really good for daytime

will you ever do that again but with your current 24" scope at night?

[somber stratus]

Eh, probably at some point

[low oar]

When you use windy.com for wind speed do you look at all altitude levels?

[somber stratus]

Of course.

[low oar]

And I’m guessing when you check yours it’s always solid purple?

[somber stratus]

Purple as in ~40kt? occasionally

varies a lot with altitude obviously

[summer pebble]

the solar system with my 6" sct

[low oar]

Congrats that’s awesome with a 6 inch great job

[summer pebble]

thanks

[tiny topaz]

What kind of seeing do you have these are insane

[low oar]

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[olive saddle]

'Ery Noice!

[candid flare]

congrats you win a filter drawer

[modest field]

first time doing saturn is this a seeing issue or a processing issue?

imaged on a dslr' and a 10" LX200

[modest field]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12zR_dS2uuQv_szKz-No6MaJLxX2A8yhF/view?usp=sharing original video

[somber stratus]

If only APY were this generous. They just give out boring cash /s.

[flint siren]

The first planetary place is so hilarious

[low oar]

Naw I got a 2x Barlow

[low oar]

lol

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus @flint siren possibly rings?

uranus btw

[flint siren]

No

[ruby compass]

oh

how do yk?

[flint siren]

Looks like halo, not enough SNR on the moons plus artefact around planet. Indicates that the data is not good enough.

[ruby compass]

hm

[somber stratus]

If you can’t see Miranda clearly then there’s zero chance of getting the rings since they’re dimmer.

[ruby compass]

yh

[somber isle]

Any tips?

[sand umbra]

South band expanded, band above northern band disappeared what happened

[summer pebble]

woke up at 5am to get this

[somber stratus]

That's how planetary works these days

[low oar]

Nice

What causes that ghost ring on the left?

[summer pebble]

Edge rind at its best

[low oar]

Hm?

[summer pebble]

Pretty sure it’s my relatively small aperture that causes it I think(?)

[low oar]

Ahhh I see

[thick heron]

Might be some miscollimation.

[somber stratus]

probably both

[flint siren]

An artefact that's produced by the use of wavelets.

[low oar]

Interesting

[sand umbra]

@somber stratus hi tom sorry for the ping but what software do you use to track the ISS?

Currently using Skywatcher SynScan GoTo 10” dob

[somber stratus]

Skywatcher sat tracker. Found at the top of their Synscan app download page

[sand umbra]

Thanks, looking forward to getting back into planetary Astro after a year

[low oar]

Ptolemaeus Crater

[low oar]

Lots of details in this image are less than a mile wide

[ruby compass]

Thats insane. Bro how?!😭

[teal sandal]

i think derotation did NOT go well...

[livid sierra]

I'd tell you but I can't see anything.

[teal sandal]

im talking bout this

the moon is not in a straight line and has some bumps while it was moving

[livid sierra]

The moons will never be perfect after derotation so you should look at how the planet itself comes out to assess how well derotation worked. So turn down the gamma and look at the sharpness of the planet. If it looks off, go through every WJ measurement and see if the wireframe is aligned correctly.

[teal sandal]

Did that and the first derotation was kinda cursed😅 fixed that.

[teal sandal]

this is all i was able to get under terrible seeing and miscollimation

[livid sierra]

Use CutOut in Firecapture.

[low oar]

You can’t really derotate moons

[low oar]

11 inches and good seeing I guess

[shell epoch]

What software do you use to derotate jupiter and map the surface?

[flint siren]

Winjupos

[ruby compass]

@low oar do I build a 12"?

[low oar]

I’m not the guy to ask about builds

Bigger is better but I’m assuming your gonna have to do it the right way lol

I just have a sct

[ruby compass]

Well I found out that Omegon Sells a 12" mirror (and secondary) for only like 450$

And i found a Great focuser for like 110$

Only need to know where to get tube

Would really be happy if I could make it out of carbonfiber but its expsensive af.

It would make the tube only like 14kg tho

Thats really really good for a 12"

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus do you have the sharpest image of every planet in this server exept mercury?

Cuz I feel like Duif got some crazy mercury images

[somber stratus]

No idea lol

[rain mauve]

I wanna ask something, if I got the planetary cam, how can I use it? What software do I connect to it? How does it work?

I did some research just now, but somehow my brain just went shut down when tryna processing it

[ancient kelp]

Whats the name of the planetary cam?

The software I use to connect mine is sharpcap

Does the job and works well especially for planetary

You’d need to download the native driver first

[rain mauve]

I'm. Planning to buy player one Uranus c

When I have the budget

[rain mauve]

AAA I see

I'm planning to do untracked

I mean like does the ROI work with untracked?

[ancient kelp]

Oh id recommend the mars series if ur doing planetary

[ancient kelp]

Yes

What is ur setup?

[rain mauve]

Ummm it's quite a newbie setup... Celestron 80eq

[rain mauve]

Ohhh okayyy

It's cheaper also

[ancient kelp]

Yeah cheaper