Planetary Imaging

[compact bough]

You did a way better job than me in bad seeings

[latent siren]

I think you're at a less FL than me, so I think that can be a factor too.

It wasn't too bad

But yeah, that's definitely a large difference.

[summer pebble]

With Mercury out of the way (in poor conditions), I've finally imaged the planets

[latent siren]

Not sure if you've said this already, but what camera do you use?

[summer pebble]

I use the zwo asi585

[compact bough]

Oh yeah true

[rain mauve]

Does zwo120mc good?

[shell epoch]

Main cam or just guide camera?

[rain mauve]

Main cam

[shell epoch]

Go for something like the Neptune c

[rain mauve]

Neptune c?

Which imx

So many imx

[shell epoch]

https://player-one-astronomy.com/product/neptune-cusb3-0-color-camera-imx178/

[rain mauve]

Can i capture nebula with this?

[shell epoch]

Imx178 is just referring to the sensor. Some cams have the same sensor but are differently built, which can affect how good it is to a certain degree

[shell epoch]

Yea. Unless you plan to lucky image though, you'll need a star tracker

What setup do you have?

[rain mauve]

I dont have really fancy setup

Just celestron 80eq with diy ra goto system

[shell epoch]

That's a pretty good starter setup

[rain mauve]

Oh thats good?

I caputred jupiter with my phone with this telescope

Heres planetary with my phone

I dont have really good phone also, just samsung a53

[grim gale]

Is this good for a 5 inch and a zwo 715c?

[white prawn]

Ayuh.

[white prawn]

That's a good amount of detail; it almost looks like what I can do with my 8" in decent seeing, but shrunk down a little. Good work.

[grim gale]

Thanks!

[rain mauve]

hey, im wondering

i had a celestron 80eq and im using dslr and phone, my issue is when doing planetary images with my dslr, planet is too small, is it any good option between upgrading it to 2x barlow lens? or should i use eye projection, since i have 10mm eyepiece

[latent siren]

That is actually really good photos with just an A53

[rain mauve]

thank youu

[low tendon]

just transferring files

[summer pebble]

Progression of venus

[olive saddle]

It's really cool to see just how much change there is, regarding its apparent size in the sky (assuming these were all taken at the same magnification)

[low tendon]

this is the place to talk abt moon right?

[latent siren]

Yeah you can

[low tendon]

got a new moon pic

i had 11/10 seeing

2kt jet stream

[fathom oak]

my first ever mineral moon https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1348478606762049537

[summer pebble]

Yep! The size of each image relative to each other is accurate

[shy current]

Ohh… that’s why it looked so big last time I saw it… I thought I was just tripping

[limpid prairie]

hi is there is any tips for beginners i use only my phone and a 114 mm telscope and i want to take photos of planet like jupiter etc and nebulas

[low tendon]

i have 2 nice pics to derotate of jupiter but also a 3rd one sliiiiightly less sharp, should i incluude it or will it make the pic worse than with 3?

[fathom oak]

idk I've never derotated before

[low tendon]

oh ok

[low tendon]

have u derotated before

[lyric dome]

no idk how

[low tendon]

can u help me a bit pls?

i lost some sharp jupi data but win jupos still has it when i logged in, how can i recover it?

can u maybe help me?

[low tendon]

@flint siren this

deleted accidentally

on ssd

??

this is what i mean by win jupos has it

really?!

ok thx

[digital steppe]

Gonna try to image my first galaxy tonight with my dob (M82 or 81)

[low tendon]

sry for bothering u again but i wanna ask one last thing, i sharpened my pics to derotate but itt still failed, ddo u know maybe y?

[white prawn]

On my derotation I sharpen "just enough" to let it see some detail, but don't fully sharpen. Then I sharpen the final derotated image for the full thing. @somber stratus, @livid sierra, @sharp ridge, or @vapid depot might be able to provide better guidance on that. I know if they said that I did something wrong and I got lucky for having a good derotated image, I'd listen to them.

[lyric dome]

Looks good

[white prawn]

To what extent? I've been told to sharpen "just enough" so the software can see the boundaries, and to finalize after the fact. Worked out for me. If that's not right and I should basically final-prep everything before I send it through WinJUPOS then I'll do that instead.

[low tendon]

i literally told u i did😭

thats a dif pic

i didnt use it

i removed 1 pic and it worked

the pic i removed was taken 10min apart but the other 2 only 2 mins apart

oh ok

heres finnal result

ok

yo tom

[somber stratus]

problem? 🤓

Also I'm 90% sure I've mentioned here before how much to sharpen before derotation

multiple times at that...

maybe not in this channel specifically, but the server in general

[low tendon]

dont think ive been into pllanetary long enough to hear u talk abt it

im new to this

[somber stratus]

idk who told you "just enough" but that's not particularly good practice.

[somber stratus]

Yeah, didn't mean you specifically. Apologies if it came across like that. Was referring to long time members

with the same repeat questions

lol

[somber stratus]

nice result here btw

[low tendon]

thx, seeing was mid, i had some INSANE seeing 3 days ago and i shot jupi then too but it turned out terrible for some reason, worse than the mid seeing one, atleast i got some crazy sharp moon pics with that 11/10 seeing

[somber stratus]

This is all there is to know btw. It's common for people to denoise each single stack too much and then it's hard (or impossible) to get that detail back after derotation. It's an art of using the least amount of denoise possible such that derotation will still achieve a smooth result.

[somber stratus]

Yeah seeing can be odd like that. Can look stable but the stacks come out mediocre

[low tendon]

seeing when i took the moon pic was CRISP

[lyric dome]

good seeing? how the hell haha

thats insane, this is mine with a 3 inch

Manuel though

Same camera

[grim gale]

Yeah the seeing was exceptional at the time, thats really unusual for my location tho. That jupiter with 3 inch is insane

[lyric dome]

thank you man, im reprocessing rq, my setup is so bad

[lyric dome]

yeah first one better

Ngl the last one is by far my best animation

[grim gale]

But like for that setup, the images are insane

for a 3 inch

[lyric dome]

Thank you bro

I’m getting a 6 inch Thursday morning

Goto

[grim gale]

Goto?

thats great

[lyric dome]

I’m hoping I get to understand it in time for lunar eclipse

It starts about 2:30am for me Friday morning

I wanna make a eclipse animation of moon going from normal to red back to normal

[grim gale]

i should check it out, maybe its happening where i am

[lyric dome]

Where do you live?

[grim gale]

What camera will you use

[lyric dome]

State/country

[grim gale]

northern europe

in the baltics

[lyric dome]

Same one, idk if I’ll be able to fit the moon or not might switch to my phone

Asi715mc

[grim gale]

yeah you might need to do a mosaic

i dont know how to

[lyric dome]

Yes

Me neither haha

[grim gale]

need to learn it, beacuse with a tiny camera it should make a high res moon mosaic

just need to change my terrible eq2

[lyric dome]

Yes

You have pretty good setup

You do dso?

[grim gale]

yeah but with my widefield one

the planetery setup is just one of those long newts with a bad mount

[lyric dome]

Haha gotcha

[grim gale]

Cant wait to see your jupiter results with the 6 inch!

[lyric dome]

Thank you!

I think I’ll try Saturn again too. I know it’s bad time in sky but I’m not satisfied with mine from 2 months ago at all

140k frames 💀💀💀

[grim gale]

140k ?!

how long is that video

[lyric dome]

Yeahh overkill I know

Uhhh idk I have a Manuel so I took a lotttt of put them together in pipp

Like 25 mins ish idk

Unless you have crazy huge scope Saturns rotation won’t matter so

Although I didn’t know there is little different between 90k and 140k

At that point you know it doesn’t help

[grim gale]

Oops i was about too ask about that

[lyric dome]

Atleast you can see shadow or rings on planet

Of*

[low tendon]

how can i measure things on the moon with win jupos?

@flint siren do you know?

[low tendon]

how to make the measuring tool work

[lyric dome]

@somber stratus how are these for a 3 inch manuel scope? @mossy juniper

[hasty hull]

Lookin good yo

[mossy juniper]

3"! What scope is this?! This looks phenomenonal man, good job. That's some impressive detail in there, you obviously had some fantastic skies that night eh

[lyric dome]

100%%

[lyric dome]

Celestron 80az

150$

[mossy juniper]

That's friggin awesome. Pushing that scope to the max

[lyric dome]

Yesir

[lyric dome]

I’m getting a 6” tmr

Wish I had it today haha

[mossy juniper]

6" newt?

[lyric dome]

yes

[lyric dome]

@mossy juniper

😅

Would be smoother but I stopped to talk to a guy asking about the hobby mid way through

I was in public so

It’s an animation)

[mossy juniper]

Haha you can see the point where you stopped to talk and by the time you got back to it field rotation had kicked I

[lyric dome]

Yep haha

[teal sandal]

found a lovely mars capture from feb 28 i completely forgot about, 2 big clouds visible

[ruby compass]

can i have ur stacked non processed image of Jupiter? (The Io Transit)

i wanna see what i can do w it

[somber stratus]

Which Io transit image? Do you have a date

[ruby compass]

alr lemme find it

@somber stratus Jupiter 26-Feb-25

[somber stratus]

here's the best single stack

[ruby compass]

thankyou 😄

[ruby compass]

also mb for asking but could you take a look at my jupiter data? (Io Transit) First image is IR second one is Full Spectrum

[ruby compass]

here is my attempt at it 😛 (i suck at processing)

okay fixed colors alot better

@somber stratus before vs after

[hasty hull]

What program are you using?

[ruby compass]

used registax6 for sharpness and windows photo editor for colors

[hasty hull]

Nice, any particular reason you don’t use the white balance in Regi?

[ruby compass]

uh not really. just never dont bother learning smt new when i already have a method that works 100% fine

[hasty hull]

Lately I’ve been using AstroSurface more and I much prefer it’s wavelets compared to regi

A lot of people like stacking in AstroSurface but I’ve stuck with as4 for that

[ruby compass]

ik that astrosurface isbetter

[somber stratus]

really?

I don't know many who stack in astrosurface

[ruby compass]

what do you use for stacking?

[somber stratus]

Autostakkert!4, like most people.

[ruby compass]

yeah

Also

[ruby compass]

Could u check them out?

@somber stratus ?

[somber stratus]

Your R channel is out of focus. Not sure what's up with that

[ruby compass]

Hmm

Thats weird.

[ruby compass]

The ir or normal data?

[somber stratus]

The first one, though the full spectum one has a load of CA (blue is out of focus)

I assume you're using a frac

explains the IR being out of focus too

[ruby compass]

frac?

[ruby compass]

I didnt use a ca corrector

[somber stratus]

refractor

[ruby compass]

I am not rich anough to own an 8" refractor

Its an 8" newt

[somber stratus]

hmm

[ruby compass]

Or well dob to be more exact

[somber stratus]

did you use a barlow?

[ruby compass]

Yes

3x

[somber stratus]

It's a piece of garbage then.

[ruby compass]

Yeah ik. Got it for 30$

[somber stratus]

explains the CA

[ruby compass]

Yup

[somber stratus]

also your IR filter has blue leak.

[ruby compass]

You have told me that before lol

[terse night]

It's very likely an achromat so yeah

[somber stratus]

This is pretty pronounced CA though. Hardily subtle, even for a cheap barlow.

unlucky

[ruby compass]

Well jupiter was only like 50° above horizon

[somber stratus]

CA isn't related to altitude, it's an optical issue of the barlow

[ruby compass]

Here is the processed image btw (processed by Zol)

[somber stratus]

You're probably better off without the barlow tbh

until you get a higher quality one

[ruby compass]

I am not. Trust me

Here is without 😭

Could you try to process it tho? (The ir data)

This

@somber stratus any good 3x barlow recomendations?

[terse night]

It's probably overkill but I guess you can't go wrong with Powermates from TeleVue

[ruby compass]

Arent those expensive af?

[terse night]

I think their 2.5x is 300€

[ruby compass]

😭

[fathom oak]

Celestron XCel LX 3x barlow is really nice apochromatic barlow that I've been using for a while now

new it's like $120 but I was able to snag one second hand for $60

[ruby compass]

Oo

If I find one for like 60 then I might also get it

[somber stratus]

I have the XCel 3x too, and is very good

cheap too

[ruby compass]

Uhhh dont know about that but yeah

[somber stratus]

It's my primary barlow for the 16". I use a 4x powermate for the 24" though

[somber stratus]

It's ~$90 no?

[ruby compass]

More like worth the price

[somber stratus]

not too bad

[ruby compass]

120 acording to @fathom oak

[somber stratus]

Ah, even still. Worth it. Quality comes with a price

[fathom oak]

$120 is not overly expensive in astrophotography

[somber stratus]

yup

[ruby compass]

Yeah ofcourse but its still money😅

[somber stratus]

Fixed up the B channel with some not-so-scientific channel manipulation.

[ruby compass]

Colors look great

Thats not IR right?

[somber stratus]

That's OSC.

B channel was still ruined though

[ruby compass]

Oh alr

I wanna know what the IR data looks like with the right processing

[somber stratus]

All the IR is out of focus lmao. It's just blue leak that's in focus.

[ruby compass]

Its sharper tho? No?

[somber stratus]

Barely. Just has more contrast.

Single stack using the 3x X-Cel btw

[ruby compass]

Well when i look at the videos the ir data obv looks alot better

[ruby compass]

Cant look at tifs on phone:/

Can u take a ss of it.

?*

[somber stratus]

B,G,R

[ruby compass]

16 or 24"?

[somber stratus]

16

[ruby compass]

Yoo

Thats awsome

[somber stratus]

24" with the 4x powermate. Similar performance wrt CA

B is lower res due to seeing.

[ruby compass]

Thats awsome!!

Btw

How oversmpeld are u?

Oversampeld*

[somber stratus]

Depends how you define 'oversampled'.

I run both scopes at an f/ratio that is equal to ~6.5x the camera pixel size in microns.

Critical sampling for blue light

[ruby compass]

Like how small are your pixels compared to the smallest detail you can poossibly see

[somber stratus]

I believe it's 4 pixels covering the rayleigh limit

[ruby compass]

Oh okay

Btw

Do you think my jupiter resoult is good for an untracked 8"?

[somber stratus]

Definitely hampered by the barlow quality

[ruby compass]

Do I take this as a compliment or not?😭🙏🏻

Also you have the picture of the day

On astrobin

[somber stratus]

Untracked makes things difficult though. I've seen much better coming from an 8", but those are tracked and using several tens of minutes of derotation.

[ruby compass]

Yeah. The video i did was 1min and 3sec (somehow kept in the fov)

[ruby compass]

Can u send the best u have seen with an 8"?

[somber stratus]

Mostly Ethan's older work

with an Edge HD 8"

[ruby compass]

WHAT?! How?!

[somber stratus]

I mean this is the limit tbh. Good summer Texas seeing, and Jupiter at just under 50 arcseconds.

[ruby compass]

Yeah

Btw I saw a video of someone using an 11" for the planets.. and uhm he Kinda got as sharp images aa ur 24"..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OqDfQarSBS0&pp=ygUTSnVwaXRlciB3aXRoIGFtIGMxMQ%3D%3D

Here is the video

The jupiter images are crazy..

[somber stratus]

I know Ken personally. He does some great stuff

[ruby compass]

Oh. Lol yeah. I was shocked when I saw his live view.

I swear you would prob know damian peach personally😭

[somber stratus]

Just a matter of time until I get excellent seeing with the 24" ;)
Winter here is pretty rough with seeing.

[somber stratus]

Yes, speak with him often.

[ruby compass]

Yeah

[somber stratus]

I wish I had it for last summer/autumn

Had some great nights with the 16

[ruby compass]

Yeah tho 1 issue here in northern sweden.

During the summer (for like 2months straight) we dont get any night.

[ruby compass]

Awsome!

Btw can u image HH30?

I think you would be like the only person in history to pull detail out of it

Mb for sending a dso image in Planetary imaging

Its like slightly smaller then mars in the sky...

@somber stratus ?

[somber stratus]

I'm sure it's much smaller than Mars if that's all the res JWST can pull

[ruby compass]

Well the disk is like 4 arc sec across

[somber stratus]

It's mag +18, that's the issue. No chance of lucky imaging it.

smudge

[ruby compass]

Yeah..

Its like mag19

Btw here is the size. Calculated bt my friend Gandalf

You should deff image an Exoplanet

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus whats ur tiktok?

[somber stratus]

Huh, I haven't used it in years.

[ruby compass]

Oh

Still got an acc?

Need to give u creds somehow lol (posted the image u processed on tiktok)

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdeWuVV2/

Here

[thick heron]

Hey, whoever took these did a great job!

[lyric dome]

Last nights imaging for me

3 inch Manuel refractor

[digital steppe]

that GoTo dob will be a lifesaver

[lyric dome]

haha yes, if im getting this with 3 inch i can't wait for future

[digital steppe]

Sweet, you may also be able to do DSO in a pinch

[lyric dome]

ill deff try that yeah

i love jupiter sm rn

[white prawn]

Here, have a mars.

[lyric dome]

amazing

[white prawn]

Also. I. Hate. Edge. Rind.

[lyric dome]

i should go for it tonight

tmr night i mean

[digital steppe]

Here, have an Orion in the planetary channel

[white prawn]

If you're gonna leave DSO on planetary, do it right.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Orion_Nebula_-_Hubble_2006_mosaic_18000.jpg****

😁

[digital steppe]

also there was this random object blocking my view tonight and I cannot fugure out what

It might be pluto

[lyric dome]

chekc stellarium

[digital steppe]

oop, its Iapetus

[summer pebble]

Some previous image of Jupiter I have

maybe someone might want to take a look at the single stack...?

[lyric dome]

@somber stratus Any advice on dealing with field rotation while making animations with a maneul mount? @thick heron

[somber stratus]

At no point did I give permission to post the result on your own social media

But you do you I guess

[candid flare]

Mods get him

[somber stratus]

I use a custom python script myself

[somber stratus]

Nvm, I see it’s my process of your image, not the other way around. Misunderstood you at first.

[lyric dome]

Ohhh damn haha

Can you manually do it? I’m trying to rn

[rain mauve]

Im wondering what tools do you use

I have same diameter like your telescope

[lyric dome]

What is your scope?

[lyric dome]

Click it

[rain mauve]

Celestron 80eq

Im using phone rn

[fathom oak]

what scope?

[ruby compass]

Its my data 😭

[fading plume]

https://tenor.com/view/manuel-i-love-you-manuel-i-love-you-heart-locket-and-to-think-i-wanted-to-kill-you-two-times-gif-23132756

[thick heron]

I think it's fair to ask before posting elsewhere with someone's name attached to it. If I was asked to process data I assume they just want to see an alternative take on the raw data.

[somber stratus]

Not really. I mean you can, but it looks wobbly most of the time

[lyric dome]

Thanks Oakley haha

[lyric dome]

I see, thanks.

I’m very inexperienced with coding and stuff so I think I’ll just try my best to put it at the same plane using the storms on the planet

I have about 40 frames

Videos *

[fathom oak]

Back a while ago when I still used my scope on its dob mount, I took this 8 frame animation and manually rotated the frames in registax to help with field rotation. The result is slightly wobbly but I think it's alright

[lyric dome]

Yeah it’s better than field rotation imo

I’ll do that

[fathom oak]

One tip I used is to toggle the "view zoomed" window in registax and zoom it out to like 1x or something so you can see the whole planet in it. Then rotate the planet so that the cloud bands are parallel with the crosshairs on zoom window

[lyric dome]

That’s what I was going to do

Sounds good

[fathom oak]

just as a little guide to know how much to rotate

[lyric dome]

It’ll take a while

[lyric dome]

this is first 6 frames

testing rn

not good

dang

its moving so much

beutiful

[fathom oak]

what program are you creating the animation in?

[lyric dome]

pipp

[fathom oak]

try turning on the object stabilization thing

[lyric dome]

what is that? the planatary setting?

[fathom oak]

in processing options turn on Object/Planetary mode and enable object detection and center object in each frame

[lyric dome]

kk

thats only for final animation though right?

i dont have to do that for every frame

?

[fathom oak]

yeah

tbf I don't know for sure if this works or not

[lyric dome]

ill deff try when im done

still so many to do yk

[fathom oak]

I just noticed that i didn't turn on "center object in each frame" for my gif lol. I'm gonna retry it with that enabled and see if it's smoother

[lyric dome]

let me know

[fathom oak]

I don't think it helped lol

mine wasn't very wobbly tbf

you should try yours still

Yoships have you seen mine?

Zach and I planned to both shoot the double eclipse and compare our results

I'm using 8" newt

What are your thoughts on it?

Yeah that might be a good idea

yeah my seeing is trash since I live in the middle of the south east US jetstream

yeah I think I like this better. Thanks for the feedback

here's a quick screen recording of one of my raw videos

so you can see my trash seeing

[lyric dome]

can you show me exactly what to turn on?

[lyric dome]

i dont have that option wtf

[fathom oak]

I think my camera has an IR cut built in unfortunately. It's the ZWO ASI120MC-S btw

[fathom oak]

Weird. Can you show?

[lyric dome]

yes

[fathom oak]

wait did you mean IR cut or IR pass?

[lyric dome]

What else do you click on the first tab?

[fathom oak]

ik both would be useless if mine has a IR cut built in but just wondering

[fathom oak]

weird. Anyway it shouldn't matter because the important settings are still there

ye ik

[lyric dome]

why is it so unstable

ugh

[fathom oak]

did autostakkert not put the planet in the middle when stacking?

[lyric dome]

it did

but the original roi's are slightly different each frame

so weird

[fathom oak]

You said that an IR filter would help during bad seeing. Was just wondering whether you meant IR cut or IR pass

[lyric dome]

at this point i might just accept field rotation

[fathom oak]

why would that be?

[lyric dome]

thats 12 frames btw

[lyric dome]

because they are from 3 different files

each with slightly different roi's

close but not the same

[fathom oak]

You should shoot with the same ROI for all of them

[lyric dome]

no shit

😭

[main flume]

not out of focus enough

[lyric dome]

Haha

[fathom oak]

how am I supposed to know if you didn't specify

am confused

[lyric dome]

He’s using a question to answer your question

An ir cut can’t do anything but cut it

[fathom oak]

no duh

what did I do bruhhhh

I'm tryin to learn

[lyric dome]

Oml I’m about to kms

The last file had half this many

[fathom oak]

Does "IR filter" just always mean IR pass?

[lyric dome]

You mean cut

[fathom oak]

no I don't

[lyric dome]

Idk then

[fathom oak]

ok

I feel like IR cut could also be classified under "IR filter"

that's why I was asking which you meant

sorry

[lyric dome]

Lmao

Crappy is golden

Without crap how do you know when something is gold

[fathom oak]

I think I just live in the wrong place for planetary lol

[lyric dome]

No you don’t lol

Heroic we have same sky’s

It’s fine

Is summer seeing better?

Ohh

Oh

Notnhere

Not here

We have high humidity

Yeah

Oh wow what

Didn’t know that

If there is humidity but the air is still?

Is it good seeing?

I see

[fathom oak]

my best seeing I ever had was probably this

over a year ago

[lyric dome]

Yeah

My best for 3” and asi715

[fathom oak]

I also got this the other night (same night I captured that rotation animation) and it's probably my best image of the GRS

[lyric dome]

What is GRS

[fathom oak]

Great Red Spot

[lyric dome]

Ohhh

[fathom oak]

wait what

[lyric dome]

Imagine

[fathom oak]

my screen is different

[lyric dome]

2-1

Host advantage

[main flume]

thats how mine looks

ive just loaded the chat, so mine is how discord has saved it

[lyric dome]

@fathom oak

decent? eh?

[fathom oak]

Looks pretty decent

[lyric dome]

Pffff you do that I have no idea how to program

Thank you

All Manuel

33 frames

[teal sandal]

I have a crazy idea u can try

[somber stratus]

It's already been done. Don't even need to write it from scratch.

[teal sandal]

make image measurements for every of these 33 frames in winjupos ant then "derotate" with jus a single frame 33 times, each of these frames should be aligned

[somber stratus]

That works but it's a bit tedious

[teal sandal]

I tried this with mars when i wanted to compare its angular sizes

[somber stratus]

Yes, but I can post the script

[teal sandal]

yeah can't deny lol

[somber stratus]

It was myself and M63 from r/AP who wrote it. He did the heavy lifting and I've just optimised it.

[lyric dome]

Tom

If you can explain how to use a script I would love to try yours

[somber stratus]

You just need a python installation. I run it via Spyder but can be done in cmd too I think.

[lyric dome]

So if I download a python instillation then what? I copy and paste it and just start it? Do I have to move files like

[somber stratus]

Download that. You need to change the parameters each time, e.g planet name, date/time and file locations. This is for my lat/long too so you need to change that.

[lyric dome]

I’ve never really ran a script before

I’ll try my best

Thanks Tom

[somber stratus]

Download python and Spyder (or Anaconda Navigator which also has Spyder). Open this .py file I sent in Spyder and then you should be able to run it.

[lyric dome]

Thanks

[somber stratus]

as long as the python installation has permissions to access your OS. Can't remember where that is but it's during the installation.

[lyric dome]

i downloaded python

I double clicked this and it finished installing and everything, how do I open it

Oh wait I forgot it

Got it

[somber stratus]

Open up windows powershell real quick to just to check something. Just search "Powershell"

[lyric dome]

Okay

That’s powershell

[somber stratus]

type "pip --version" without quotations

[lyric dome]

A space after pip?

[somber stratus]

ye

[lyric dome]

And click enter?

[somber stratus]

ye

[somber stratus]

coolio

[lyric dome]

Cool

[somber stratus]

You need to install some packages to run the script. I'll get the commands for you

[lyric dome]

Alright

[somber stratus]

pip install scikit-image

[lyric dome]

Do I run it on python or powershell?

[somber stratus]

powershell is fine

sorry, for the package installation

[lyric dome]

All good

[lyric dome]

Copy and paste this?

[somber stratus]

yup

and enter

pip install astropy

same with this one

[lyric dome]

Okay

[somber stratus]

should download some stuff

[lyric dome]

it is yeah

sick

its not letting me type anything after the first packages

[somber stratus]

Has it finished yet? takes a while sometimes to install the package

scrn shot

[lyric dome]

kk

[somber stratus]

yeah it's currently installing

[lyric dome]

Oh okay got it

[somber stratus]

now do astropy^

[lyric dome]

oh it finsihed

okay

its downloading now

done

[somber stratus]

I'd download spyder btw as you have to edit the script a little bit each time you run it. https://www.spyder-ide.org/

And it's easier this way

[lyric dome]

Almost done

[somber stratus]

Once you have that installed you should be able to navigate to the folder you've downloaded my .py script to, or just drag-drop it.

[ruby compass]

Hello again tom

People like the process u did of my data

😄

[lyric dome]

I really appreciate the help Tom

[somber stratus]

np

[lyric dome]

Spider is almost done

its been sitting there a while near the end, spyder

there we go

This opened up

[somber stratus]

These are the only things you need to edit. Your files need to be in WinJupos naming format (which is enabled in your capture software, be it Firecapture or Sharpcap if you haven't already). Then you just copy the file address into the top "imageDirectory", then same again for an empty folder where the field derotated images will be saved. Set a reference time which doesn't need to be anything specific but I tend to choose one of the same timestamps as one of the images.
Then lat/long in decimal degrees. This should save once you've edited it and run it once.
'planet' is self explanatory.
Hopefully it works first time without issues.

[somber stratus]

yeah can ignore that cmd now

just use the app

[lyric dome]

This?

[somber stratus]

Cool. Now drag drop the .py file I sent earlier. Download and just slap it into that window

[lyric dome]

Alright

Good?

[somber stratus]

Should show the whole thing on the left

i.e

[lyric dome]

Yep done

[somber stratus]

Now just edit the parameters as described here^

should work, in theory

this to run it btw

[lyric dome]

So I need to rename my files correct

[somber stratus]

If they aren't in WJ format, yes, annoyingly

[lyric dome]

I’m not sure what WJ format is, however I will read what you said

[somber stratus]

It's YYYY-MM-DD-HHMM_.M, for example

in UTC

[lyric dome]

Ohhh I get what you mean

Date

[somber stratus]

yup. The script will read the file name so it needs to be in this exact format

What comes after isn't of concern, just the date to start the file name.

[lyric dome]

This may be a dumb question but

[somber stratus]

What capture software do you use?

[lyric dome]

At what point on here do you start typing it, also sharpcap

[somber stratus]

Just the D:/example needs changing

[lyric dome]

Do I have the “

[somber stratus]

leave the quotation marks and r

[lyric dome]

I meant after example

Like this?

[somber stratus]

Easiest way is to just copy the address directly from your image directory. I.e open the folder as normal in windows file explorer. Right-click the last item and "copy address as text"

[lyric dome]

Ohhhh

[somber stratus]

D:\ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY\250312\AS_P4

[lyric dome]

That’s so much easier

[somber stratus]

e.g

Then create a new folder inside that as "DFR" for example, then do the same again

[lyric dome]

My brain is hurting, but I’m learning slowly

[somber stratus]

this is where the rotated files will be saved

yeah it's a bit complex at the start but you soon get used to it

[lyric dome]

Once you learn you always have so

[somber stratus]

yup

[lyric dome]

So is your directory different than mine?

[somber stratus]

Yes, it will be different everytime. It's where you keep your files

[lyric dome]

My dumbass changed the file name when I made it lol

The stacks

So ima have to manually type it back

[lyric dome]

I’m honestly really confused😅😅

Where do I find this

I’m in downloads

[somber stratus]

Find where your images are.

[lyric dome]

Alright

Done

[somber stratus]

right-click the address at the top

and "copy address as text"

[lyric dome]

Done

[somber stratus]

Right click 'Allysa' here for example

[lyric dome]

Yes

And then?

I copied it

[somber stratus]

Then highlight this and ctrl+v to paste

[lyric dome]

Done

Shit that was easy

[somber stratus]

I'd make a new folder inside this one (as you normally would). I.e make it inside 'Allysa' and go into it.

Do the same again, but pasting it onto the line of code below

[lyric dome]

Alright

[somber stratus]

You're basically setting up an empty folder which the script will save the new files into. It's all so that it doesn't overwrite your original files.

[lyric dome]

Here?

[lyric dome]

I get it, just never learned before lol

[somber stratus]

Yes, but you need to delete the D:/ too, that was just my example D-drive.

same with the line above

should read just r"C:\Users...."

[lyric dome]

Yes

Done

[somber stratus]

scrn shot

just to check :p

[lyric dome]

That’s easier

[somber stratus]

And the second line has the new folder? can't see here as it's clipped off

[lyric dome]

Yes

It does

[somber stratus]

cool

[lyric dome]

I named it Allysa results

[somber stratus]

yeah that's fine

Now change the lat/long to your location

doesn't need to be insanely accurate but within 0.1 is nice

[lyric dome]

Alright

[somber stratus]

Easiest way of doing it is just google maps and zoom in on your observing location. Lat/long is shown in the URL

Then round them to nearest 0.1 if you like

to avoid doxxing lmao

[lyric dome]

Alright

[lyric dome]

I’m not very connected

Concerned*

[somber stratus]

All this is saved for later use btw. It's just painful setting it up

Ctrl+S to save the file as normal

WJ naming settings in Sharpcap btw @lyric dome

[lyric dome]

Thanks

[somber stratus]

Now change to 'jupiter' on the line below

as this is set to Mars atm

Also you have a \in front of the C: in your folder address. This needs to be removed
Then you're ready. Ctrl+S then run it.

[lyric dome]

Back sorry had to walk somehwere

Okay so

[lyric dome]

Where is this slash?

Do you mean this?

[somber stratus]

Line 15 and 16.

The \ before C

[lyric dome]

Kk

Done

And now?

[somber stratus]

Should be r"C:\Users\...."

[lyric dome]

Yes

[somber stratus]

Reference time but this can be left alone. You might find an upside-down Jupiter but they should still be all aligned

[lyric dome]

Alright haha

[somber stratus]

Are your file names all in WJ format?

[lyric dome]

Uh like the input file?

[somber stratus]

You'll probably have to manually update them which is painful

[lyric dome]

Yeah

Luckily I numbered them so I know the order of the original videos

[somber stratus]

Do you have the date/time for each?

[lyric dome]

Yeah

Within 45 seconds

Each stack is from 45 second video

[somber stratus]

Are they labelled by minute?

[lyric dome]

I’ll show

[somber stratus]

ok

I mean after this I can just send you some of my data to test it on to check everything is working

[lyric dome]

They all have the time and stuff on top right

Top left *

That’s from original video

[somber stratus]

Oh that's really useful actually.

[lyric dome]

Yeah yeah

[somber stratus]

Just go to the midpoint of each video and use that timestamp

[lyric dome]

I crop it out when stacking though

Cuz stacking does NOT work with them there hahaha

I’ll do that

Will take a minute

So what exactly am I changing the file names to?

[somber stratus]

2025-03-12-0227_2 would be this one.

It's YYYY-MM-DD-HHMM_.M

the last number is the hardest

it's decimal minutes

0 = 0s
1 = 6s
2 = 12s
3 = 18s
.
.
.
9 = 54s

[lyric dome]

Shit haha

Alright

[somber stratus]

But don't worry about being out by 6 seconds, just pick the closest

Also a prerequisite of the script is that the camera isn't rotated in the imaging train during the entire session btw.

[lyric dome]

So for another example, this would be 2025-03-12-0224_5

[somber stratus]

or at least over the period of time you're aligning a timelapse

[lyric dome]

What exactly do you mean?

[somber stratus]

5 probably as it's closer to 30secs, but yeah.

[lyric dome]

Thanks

[somber stratus]

Can't be taking the camera out and changing filter. It loses rotational consistency. The rotation seen from stack-to-stack has to be solely due to field rotation.

[lyric dome]

Yes it is

[somber stratus]

Cool. I mean it's pretty common to have this, just letting you know

[lyric dome]

Alright

[somber stratus]

Also It's best to apply this script after sharpening as it can introduce interpolation artefacts if applied to the raw stacks, which are then subsequently sharpened.

But whatever, for testing purposes it's fine

[lyric dome]

Yes I did

I’m busy so I didn’t do them individually I just applied same wavelets to all

Better than nothing but yk

[somber stratus]

Once you've edited all the file names you should be able to run the script.

post any errors you have when you get to that point

[lyric dome]

Yes sir

[somber stratus]

but hopefully it runs first time

[lyric dome]

Yeppp

[somber stratus]

if successful it should spam this in the console

[lyric dome]

Alright

I’ve renamed 6 so far out of 33 haha

[somber stratus]

could just run it

see if it works on those 6

[lyric dome]

Good idea

Gurrr

[somber stratus]

hmm

[lyric dome]

Any idea?

[somber stratus]

Go to powershell again and type pip install scikit-image again

should say it's already satisfied

[lyric dome]

Yup

[somber stratus]

Ok

Go back to spyder and click this

it wont say conda, ignore that, just want to see what it says

[somber stratus]

Oh ok, cool, change that

[somber stratus]

go on this then check the drop-down

there should be a python installation of some kind

maybe

I haven't had this issue before

[lyric dome]

Hmm

I can click file

And put something in there

This?

[somber stratus]

Not that no. You need to find where your python is installed I think

[lyric dome]

I have no idea

Like

[somber stratus]

Ok

Type python into windows search

right click (show file location)

should come up with some short cuts

right click that shortcut and open file location again

[lyric dome]

Got it

[somber stratus]

Cool, now copy that address as we did before and paste it in here

[lyric dome]

Copy as other?

No

Autocorrect

Copy as path?

I’m sorry Tom

This means a lot

[somber stratus]

Just go to browse file location and navigate to this folder

[lyric dome]

I see

[somber stratus]

then click on the python exe

inside that folder

to select it

Should be something like C:\Python313\python.exe

[lyric dome]

OKAY

let’s try

Gahhhh

Do I need to click apply?

Or just OK

[somber stratus]

yes probably apply

Did you use this to navigate to the python.exe and select it?

[lyric dome]

I don’t think I copied the right thing

[lyric dome]

No I’m just typing

[somber stratus]

No, navigate to it

[lyric dome]

Should probably do that

[somber stratus]

this folder

then select the exe

[lyric dome]

I’ve made it this far

[somber stratus]

click on the python application now

and select or whatever it says

[lyric dome]

Done

And now try?

[somber stratus]

apply this setting change then try run the script again

[lyric dome]

Please don’t give up on me although I do respect your time

[somber stratus]

I have another idea so dw if this doesn't work.

[somber stratus]

Ok. Here type pip --version

and enter

[somber stratus]

Calm. Ok now just install these directly.
pip install scikit-image

pip install astropy

in the same console

[lyric dome]

seperatly right?

[somber stratus]

yeah

do one then the other

[lyric dome]

Never used python python

They should teach this in school

[somber stratus]

I used to, before WJ had built-in field derotation

probably WJ tbh lol

This is useful for timelapses though

[lyric dome]

Dope

[somber stratus]

Are those downloading again?

[fathom oak]

I know a bit of C# from game dev but no python

[lyric dome]

They are either finished or downloading yes

Yes they finished

[somber stratus]

Ok now file>restart

or just close the app and run it up again

but make sure to ctrl+s the file

to save the changes you did earlier

[lyric dome]

I did yeah

I pressed file restart uhhh

When I restarted

[somber stratus]

grrr

[lyric dome]

So now what?

[fathom oak]

python's not being much of a bro right now is it

[somber stratus]

ok go back to the settings and select default again

then do pip install the modules in the console, again

then try run it

[lyric dome]

Where is the settings?

[somber stratus]

bottom right

[somber stratus]

this thing

ah

gg

[lyric dome]

😭

[somber stratus]

setting somewhere else then

[lyric dome]

Found it

[lyric dome]

And you said click default?

[somber stratus]

yeah then change to defaul spyder thing again

apply

[somber stratus]

Internal

then apply

then pip install all modules again

then restart

then run

[lyric dome]

It’s not letting me type in the console

Ok we back

[lyric dome]

What do I type

[lyric dome]

these?

[somber stratus]

ye

[lyric dome]

🙏🏻

Progress I think

[somber stratus]

hmm

[lyric dome]

I’m sorry dude

I know this must be frustrating

[somber stratus]

that's fine, it's to do with file names

probably bc you did them manually

[lyric dome]

Ah

I can always you know

Stack them all ago

Again

Only took me 90 mins

[somber stratus]

remove the tiff files that aren't renamed yet

in that folder

then try again

[lyric dome]

Okay we have a different era but that one is gone

[somber stratus]

show

[somber stratus]

what the

shouldn't be \

double dash*

[lyric dome]

It’s not 😭 did I type it wrong or something

[somber stratus]

weird

[lyric dome]

I have patience

[somber stratus]

show the whole of line 16

[lyric dome]

Once this is set up, I won’t have to do it again either

Alright

[somber stratus]

scroll across here

[somber stratus]

yeah, remove DFR

[lyric dome]

Kk

[somber stratus]

that's just a placeholder that I used

remove the \ before it too

[lyric dome]

And the flash?

Kk

Slash*

[somber stratus]

keep the quotation marks though

then run again

[lyric dome]

SUCCESSS

HAHAHAHAHA

[somber stratus]

yay

finally

[lyric dome]

let’s go

Hahha

[somber stratus]

check the files now

should stay same orientation

[lyric dome]

They are

Damn awesome

[fathom oak]

[lyric dome]

Thank you man

[fathom oak]

I suddenly love my equatorial mount a lot

[lyric dome]

So fricking cool

[lyric dome]

Bahahaha

Good thing is

I’ll never rename a stack again 🤣

I’ll just sort in files

Tom was probably in bed trying not to fall asleep and the second I finished he was out cold haha

[somber stratus]

lol

I'm gaming with my brother

[lyric dome]

lmao cool man have fun

[white prawn]

Rio. I haven't tested Nexy on anything other than Jupiter yet; when I was able to get that image the seeing was horrid so I didn't try on Mars. I considered myself danged lucky to get the Jupiter I did with Nexy because I think it got a little more detail than Rio's image.

[lyric dome]

@somber stratus

I finished changing all the file names

I’m gonna restart

Didn’t work

Ah 😭 why

I didn’t touch the damn thing

Do you know how this works?

It says something wrong with row 38

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus oh my God. I am doing jupiter rn and I think this is the best seeing I have ever had.

The live view looks almost as sharp as my processd jupiter

[lyric dome]

Fr

Although I wouldn’t mind Tom popping up for a moment

[somber stratus]

Yeah it’s the same problem as before

Probably missed one. Not an issue going forward once you have the WJ filenaming enabled in future sessions

[lyric dome]

However I checked and they are all right?

I’ll show

[somber stratus]

Not sure then. It’s an issue with the file names not being long enough I think. It’s trying to turn the decimal minutes number to an integer then x6. Probably an issue with the naming you’ve done

[lyric dome]

They worked before, maybe I messed up somewhere

[somber stratus]

Yeah, the one with 10

[lyric dome]

Found it

[somber stratus]

Needs to be 0-9

[lyric dome]

Thanks

You are amazing it worked

Thanks superstar

[somber stratus]

Like i said it shouldn’t be an issue going forward once you have the WJ naming enabled in sharpcap

[lyric dome]

Yesirr

i think i messed up on order of file names, however i like it and im going to use this in future

its so much faster

[ruby compass]

look! 😄

Io Disapearing Behind Jupiter

[lyric dome]

Nice

[ruby compass]

Thankyou:D