Planetary Imaging

[fading plume]

seeing was great but transparency was so bad it wasnt even funny

[steep apex]

Nice image

[tidal crow]

2 watermarked versions of my saturn and jupiter. Gear: 6 inch newtonian Alt Az Star Discovery GOTO mount. Neximage 10. Stacked and proccesed in registax. Water mark with snap seed

[coarse aspen]

Ken's

[blazing hazel]

damn that’s good it wasn’t that one though

[candid flare]

what the

[burnt latch]

can someone help me process this ive been trying but couldn't get the ring portion correctly

[fading plume]

why do you have 202 APs?

you want 20 ish

[burnt latch]

is that whats causing the problem?

what should the ap size be?

[fading plume]

quite likely

depends how large saturn is

you want 15-30 ish with minimal overlap

theres not much data here so you cant get cassini.

[burnt latch]

ok im restackking then

is this ok?

[fading plume]

yes

[burnt latch]

this is what im getting

[steep apex]

How’s my processing now?

[hasty hull]

bruh

[uncut glade]

Bro is in orbit

[green pebble]

I cant wait to get my new cam, today i started working so i will save up money for it, but im sick and i barely walk

[tidal crow]

where your tracking go

[hasty hull]

ive never had any

[uncut glade]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[steep apex]

Where did your atmosphere go

[tidal crow]

Blud has no atmosphere

[eternal solstice]

He is a alien, he shot this on the dark side of the moon prob

[tidal crow]

💀

[sharp ridge]

Saturn with the Hubble Optics UL16 F/4.5 Gigadob

[remote dragon]

????

[green pebble]

I wanna image so bad but i picked up a flu

[lyric peak]

i got a 8"

[tidal crow]

if its live view i am selling some of my body parts to buy this scope

watch the dumbell and ring nebula

[tidal crow]

and contracted a disease that makes you want more aperture

it has no cure

[lyric peak]

Not yet. I got clouds tho

[tidal crow]

my disease is reversed... i want a more portable setup

[steep apex]

Love it, a little blue in my opinion

[proud mulch]

Uh

[lyric peak]

We all start somewhere don’t we

I just handheld my phone against my 8“ so it’s basically just one singular image

[lyric peak]

For imaging Jupiter or Saturn untracked with an 8“ dob, do I go for the highest magnification I can go and let it glide across the screen for like 8s or do I use less and then I can let it stay in for longer and later crop ?

[proud mulch]

More zoom is better for planets

Also what camera are you using

[steep apex]

Looks like seeing was dooky

[lyric peak]

Lumix gh5

[lyric peak]

Indeed Saturn was low and it was a bid windy

@proud mulch I also have a 3x Barlow

[proud mulch]

I should make a tutorial on how to shoot planets with a phone

So I don’t have to explain it

[nova delta]

No Barlow VS 3x Celestron X-Cel

[coarse aspen]

thats just wrong

Jupiter actually does have an atmosphere, the biggest and thickest one in our solar system

huuuge atmosphere

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Jupiter if you want to learn about it.

[hasty hull]

yeah jupiter is essentially only atmosphere

[steep apex]

Man I wish we had the 2017 atmospheric belt disturbances

[fading plume]

Hey I can now say I’ve beaten a 16”

[lyric peak]

Yes pls

[sharp ridge]

A 16" imaging through thick clouds and horrid seeing

[uncut glade]

I have a 5 mile wide break in the clouds for 3 hours, for one of which I might be able to get this shadow transit and the GRS

🙏

Magnitude 5 star is in frame to the bottom left too, could be funny to claim I found a new moon

[coarse aspen]

Doesn't matter he still wins

[sharp ridge]

i win

[steep apex]

No me mine is clearly better

[uncut glade]

Oh also, does field rotation affect the sharpness of planets? I’m on alt-az and I’m wondering if autstakkert somehow accounts for that or if an eq mount is that necessary

[green pebble]

No mine is better

[uncut glade]

It’s like I’m imaging from under a lake

Briefly hit 5/10, absolutely brutal conditions

[main flume]

❤️

[proud mulch]

I consider this to be acceptable seeing

[steep apex]

Terrible seeing

[proud mulch]

Planetary nebula

[eternal solstice]

Mhm yess yes, come to the DSO photography side

[livid sierra]

#1127675764356173885

[green pebble]

This yours!!?!?!!!!!

What progres bro

Wtf

This is crazy

Crazy?

Wait no

Im not starting again

[wispy pagoda]

First jupiter in a while, with my 5inch/asi224mc

[hasty hull]

swag

[random pecan]

It does

[eternal solstice]

Hey this is a really good image

I like it

[tidal crow]

cmon join the deep space side man!

[wispy pagoda]

Thanks! I also took a timelapse of the transit but I'll need a little more time to process it (allost 1 million frames )

[eternal solstice]

woewie, thats a lot of frames.

[uncut glade]

😔

[random pecan]

Just use winjupos

[proud mulch]

We need Dso imaging forum

[lyric peak]

Eh could someone potentially stack and edit 2 videos of Jupiter and Saturn. I can’t be at my pc anymore but would love to see what I got

[coarse aspen]

Virgin DSO imaging vs Chad Planetary Imaging

[random pecan]

‼️‼️‼️

[random pecan]

True!

[random pecan]

I made one

Idk how much it’ll be used because they typically just talk ab it in general but

Yeah

[coarse aspen]

yeah

[random pecan]

Atleast it’s there lmao

[proud mulch]

Someone name a nebula (that has been named already) and I’ll try to give it a better name

[steep apex]

I wouldn’t really recommend a DSO imaging forum since its more popular in this server, mainly the main talk in some forums, some planetary

[proud mulch]

This is how big the planets are in angular size (using maximum sizes)

[green pebble]

@proud mulch Dude, tell me did you capture this with neptune c ii

[uncut glade]

Not his, not cooked :)

[green pebble]

But it is noisy

And also lowspec is always cooking something

[green pebble]

Black hole or saturn

That more looks like a white hole

[safe compass]

"actually it doesn't exist yet-" 🤓

[green pebble]

🤓

[eternal solstice]

This is cursed

[eternal solstice]

White hole

With rings

[green pebble]

Yeh

[somber stratus]

In reality Venus is closer to Mars in angular size when it's actually good to image regarding clouds.

[proud mulch]

Yes I did

[proud mulch]

I’m talking absolute max size, like as close as it gets ever

[green pebble]

Dayuuummmm the progress

[gray orchid]

Saturn from last night

2500+ frames - 15% stacked

Orion XT8 and QHY 5L-II M

My barlow is ass and paired with iffy seeing im not getting the most out of these optics.

Also im still getting used to offset so the bright band on saturn was overexposed a bit

[livid sierra]

First light with CH4 filter

[sharp ridge]

I need to try ch4 juppy some time

[eternal solstice]

Nice

Saturn looks soo good in ch4

Maybe someone should try a ice giant with ch4

[tight canyon]

2nd time ever attempting imaging, and the first time I’ve ever seen a distinguished line between the rings of Saturn and the giant. It may not be much, but it was my ‘holy sh*t’ moment that will probably catapult me deep into AP. No tracking, just a DSLR T-ringed to a 2x Barlow on a 900/114 f/7.8 skywatcher reflector. Ngl I’m a little proud of myself

[plush sandal]

saturn and jupiter first time

[cursive inlet]

Good luck with that 😂

[livid sierra]

Yeah there’s way too little signal there

Could do it with a an eq mount that can keep the image steady at a high focal length for at least a second I guess

But yeah, good luck with that

[eternal solstice]

well, it would look like a very bright white dot

because uranus and neptune is made almost etiraly made of methane

that is how they get there signature blue color

[livid sierra]

You're probably overestimating how bright they are

[eternal solstice]

could be. probably am

only person maybe that can do this is tom

tw astro//tom

[livid sierra]

I used 50ms exposures for my CH4 Jupiter, and I have to use around 20ms exposures with around 600 gain for Neptune without CH4 filter

[eternal solstice]

ooooh

wow

[livid sierra]

And the CH4 filter is only a 20nm bandpass

The ZWO one that is, others are even tighter

It's probably possible, ice giants in CH4, just really hard I think

[cursive inlet]

Me and Tom were having this same exact convo a few months ago

[eternal solstice]

really? haha, fun coïncedence

[eternal solstice]

alright, so pretty much not possible for us

[cursive inlet]

Yeah

[uncut glade]

Here’s what it looks like with an 850nm+ pass

And that was a good frame

[eternal solstice]

uhm yea, i get it, but you cant even see the shape.

[uncut glade]

Pushing maximum gain and 100ms exposures at f/30. In live view it was an actual structure you could see. Effects of limb darkening were apparent with enough time and averaging em out

Just as an example of how insanely dim it is beyond 750nm

[eternal solstice]

but in ultra violet it seems to be consistent

@uncut glade

sorry for the pin jokabas

but another question

how would a terestrial planet look like in ch4

[barren dune]

A reprocess of one of my best saturns from last year. The Solar system pic isnt to scale and the mars is from last year. The lower left jup and upper right Saturn are from this month

[eternal solstice]

nice man!!!

[coarse aspen]

heyy atreus back

[candid flare]

What do y'all use to measure seeing conditions?

[cursive inlet]

Similar to ir, just darker and lower res

[topaz elk]

i wanna image and process so bad but i got so much hw and work

[barren dune]

Simply quit school

[proud mulch]

Did you stack it?

[somber stratus]

eyes

[sharp ridge]

the good ol' mark 1 eyeball

[coarse aspen]

if it looks like you're viewing it from space the seeing is 5/5

[white prawn]

Amazing how accurate that statement is

[somber stratus]

very high tech

[proud mulch]

Simply look

Do you see wobble?

[uncut glade]

Not yet. Moving to college, will do when I’m settled in lol

[uncut glade]

http://www.damianpeach.com/seeingscale.htm

This is a good resource, it’s my reference point nowadays.

[uncut glade]

Can confirm
80% of 10000 frames, signal is so low that all i could do is resolve the disk.

C11 with 850nm+ bandpass filter. Pipp somehow detected it still.

[onyx garnet]

what planet is this lmao

[uncut glade]

Uranus, mb

Neptune would be impossible without at least 16" of aperture lol

This is super, super aggressively denoised just to show the disk.

[proud mulch]

Also I’m talking about this one where it’s actually decent @uncut glade

[proud mulch]

Jus treat it like a Dso and have a long ahh shutter

You might just be the first to get them all in CH4

[uncut glade]

If Tom gets Neptune with an SNR high enough to not be grainy around the edges, in CH4 I will venmo him $40 immediately lmao

You would be dealing with I discrete photons at that point, a night of great seeing or better is the only time to get it.

[uncut glade]

I still need the actual filter. This is just a 850nm+ long pass from player one. A CH4 narrowband would have something like 1/10th of the signal from what I can tell

I mean, just getting over the QE losses at that band pass, physical distance, and current elevation would be insane, combined with the angular size? It would be near comparable difficulty to detecting volcanoes on IO.

I would be BEYOND ecstatic to be proven wrong, but it just seems like it would need at a minimum, hours of data in great conditions

[somber stratus]

You can get the disk with perhaps a 10".

It's quite a bit bigger (% wise) than Ganymede.

[somber stratus]

Individual photons probably not far off lol

[green pebble]

What should i chose, Mars-C II, ASI224MC, ASI385MC, ASI678MC. I wanna do mostly planetary and some dso on bigger objects

[fading plume]

585

[green pebble]

My budget is just about 300€

Not 350€

[fading plume]

gotta stretch it then. get that nice starvis and 12x6mm sensor

[green pebble]

It depends how much i save up

[white prawn]

Good morning. I got this image a couple nights ago. Clear but seeing was rated 2/5 and Saturn was at about 20 deg alt. I was using my ADC for the first time. Is this the best that can be expected given conditions?

@somber stratus (hope you don't mind the ping) @fading plume

[dark cargo]

Just looks like bad seeing. ADC can't fix that unfortunately. Does saturn actually get much higher than that for you? I think it might still be possible to get nice seeing at ~25-30 degrees alt, just has to be a very good night.

tbf it's pretty good that you got cassini at all

[white prawn]

I think it does come a bit higher, later on. I remember it didn't come up as high as Jupiter last year, but I think it did/does come up to 25-30 degrees, right now at insane hours. As in "I get up at 5:30 and don't want to wait to 2 to image and have to put stuff away and get an hr of sleep" insane. 🙂 I look forward to what I can do now that I've seen this preview though. The bands are showing up pretty well even in this.

If you want to play with the data, it's in #1144139582456221757 🙂

[indigo oak]

Been almost a year since I last saw Jupiter

That’s about the best I can get with 5 inches of aperture

[hasty hull]

#older_system_pics message you’d be surprised

[indigo oak]

Aye some are pretty good. I reckon my limitation is mostly seeing cause I had better results with a slightly smaller scope during opposition

This was with a 127 maksutov last year

Looked good visually with a Barlow but light loss was too great to properly image

[coarse aspen]

THATS INSANE WHAT

DETAIL ON GANYMEDE

That guy is the master of collimation because theres no other way to get that good detail

Perfect collimation, seeing, good sensor

[thick lotus]

@indigo oak the scale is really nice on that it is like a visual view on the split second when detail actually peeks out from the fuzz

[ripe shard]

Grasshopper?

[livid sierra]

Lol

[steep apex]

Nice bug

[white prawn]

I've done it by doing multiple images and then setting them together in sequence as a gif.

[white prawn]

I did about 9 one time. Then I ran out of battery.

[steep apex]

I kept messing around with him and I chose to take a picture without his consent

But what are they gonna do? Bite me

[white prawn]

I didn't say it was long. I haven't successfully done a smooth one like what you're probably thinking and what I was aiming for.

[green pebble]

I got foxes, wild pigs, wolfes and even bears walking around my house (only saw a bear once around my house)

Yup, thats why i got a big ass balcony

Try, the images need to be 7/10 minutes apart, you need to get around 1 and a half minute videos, stack them, process them, and then you can make it into a gif

[dark cargo]

You could do it pretty easily with pipp

[green pebble]

Yeh

He can try it

[tidal crow]

I pick those up

[tidal crow]

These too

[dark cargo]

Yea join then output as a video, you can do either lossless compression or lossy for less file size. If you want to reduce the file size further you could use handbrake to encode it better. But the gif is fine too.

Under output options:

sure you can reorder the images in the source files tab, i think theres options in another tab to do more complicated things, under animation options tab

nah looks fine I think, I think you could do a bit more sharpening?

I think astrosurface has some way to do batch processing, but I haven't used it

might be something on the website?

Ah just 250 stacked frames per image? That is really low then, no wonder.

untick the white/black point options in input options? If they are ticked? Pipp shoudn't change the brightness?

oh sorry i meant processing options

untick both, they change the histogram pretty sure

[green pebble]

Did you collimate?

[tidal crow]

Nope

Couldnt

Denoise

[green pebble]

Damn, did you atleast watch astrobiscuits video?

[tidal crow]

Yes

[green pebble]

Did it help?

[tidal crow]

Kinda

[green pebble]

Damn

The shop is the only option

I would help you if we know eachother irl

[tidal crow]

Still cant adjust the secondary to not be oval

[green pebble]

How come!

?*

[tidal crow]

I think thats the primary

If i cant adjust the secondary

[green pebble]

Its not the primary, can you see the optical tube evenly

Also i forgot to tell you but when collimating point your scope to a light source (not the sun) it will be easier to collimate

[tidal crow]

It is kinda at a light source

The right upper screw is too stiff for me to rotate but the others arent stiff

[tidal crow]

Oh god i screwed up

Not centered

[green pebble]

Its okey

Listen

So unscrew the stiff one, and try screwing in the not stiff ones

But it looks like your secondary is very easy to collimate, and your primary is a tad bit out

Its just logic

[tidal crow]

Ig imma try

[green pebble]

Just play with the screws until the optical tube is even on the sides

[tidal crow]

Nothing works

[dark cargo]

Hmm how does the rear of the tube look like? The mirror portion should be attached by some screws to the side of the tube. You might have some leeway to collimate the primary that way.

[dark cargo]

the sides i mean

[tidal crow]

These?

[dark cargo]

Yep, the screws would have a mm or so leeway, to move the mirror up an down a bit. Probably not enough but might work?

[tidal crow]

I am gonna try

Doesnt really seem to affect anything when rotating these screws

Those probably hold the primary mirror cell

[dark cargo]

Well yes, that is their job, I meant when you loosen them a bit you can physically move the mirror up and down a bit. so you collimate it that way, then screw the screws back to lock it in

[tidal crow]

Whoops

[green pebble]

Dude how many attempts did you do and you still havent learned how to collimate?!?

It cant be that hard

I collimated both of my mirrors in 5 minutes and you cant do it after 5 hours

[tidal crow]

Isnt my secondary already an egg?

[green pebble]

Dude i dont know, your red boi is weird, but im in love with that mount

[tidal crow]

My red boi really is weird

[green pebble]

Yeahhhh, instead of the red devil its the red weirdo

And my scope is black and slow (f7)

I meant it in a non racial way*

[tidal crow]

My scope is red and fast f4/5

[green pebble]

Dayum

[tidal crow]

astrobiscuit has a weird opponent

[green pebble]

Hahahahahaha

[tidal crow]

Still a pretty nice scope if not the collimation

[green pebble]

Fax

Mine is black and borimg

But pretty big

Transportation is my problem

[tidal crow]

Is it a 6 inch or 8 or even 24

[green pebble]

130/900

5.1 inch

[tidal crow]

5 inch

[green pebble]

Ye

Hbu?

[tidal crow]

150/750

[green pebble]

6inch?

[tidal crow]

Yeah

[green pebble]

Damn, yours is bigger but mine is longer

Wait

That sounded weird

[tidal crow]

Lets forget that

[white prawn]

I put the png files back into PIPP and tell it to output as GIF. There may be better methods.

[cursive inlet]

Girth matters

[green pebble]

💦

[hearty fiber]

Let's stop this here

[cursive inlet]

I meant aperture

[tidal crow]

y y yeah...

[topaz elk]

somehow got ina at 1200mm

dont know how lol

[steep apex]

Hacker I barely got it at 2700mm

[barren dune]

From my ig story this morn don't mind my talking lol

The best single stack. The derotated set of 5 wasnt much better than this

@tidal crow 😬😬😬😬

That collimation my man

Ibhad some dust spots on my barlow

[tidal crow]

I smell 4 uncollimated newtonians

[nova delta]

some…

[green pebble]

Do you smell mine anymore

Am i collimated?

[cursive inlet]

Whats your aperture?

[tidal crow]

I kinda do

Egg shaped secondary

[barren dune]

14 in dog

Dob*

I hate autocorrect

[cursive inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-20968675

[barren dune]

Real

[steep apex]

Dude that live view is absolutely amazing!

[indigo oak]

thats some good seeing

[tidal crow]

Yeah same happens to me lol. I set up and clouds come. I bring it back it. Clouds go away

i scrolled too far 💀

[proud mulch]

MEGANERD

Also might want to still use derotation because slight color noise

[tidal crow]

HUBBLE

[tidal crow]

DUDE HOW

WHAT GEAR

Howwwwww

[barren dune]

14in dob eqplate+handtracking
Qhy5iii178c+5x barlow

[tidal crow]

14 INCHES?

HAND TRACKING?!

Naww dawg my 6 inch newt better redeem himself

[barren dune]

You better

[safe compass]

what ratio if i may ask

[proud mulch]

Also Io there 👍

[barren dune]

Reprocess a little softer

[tidal crow]

F4/5

150/750

[safe compass]

noitce

[steep apex]

Love the Io detail too

[safe compass]

noice

[coarse aspen]

dayummm and with a relatively old sensor too

[barren dune]

I call the 224 old how out dated really is the 178. Im looking at getting a new cam soon maybe a uranus c

[uncut glade]

I have the Uranus C and I love it, I do with the sensor was larger.

If they ever release a Uranus-M or other IMX-585 mono camera, that would be an awesome tool

[coarse aspen]

Thats actually in productino

Will probably be released in 1-2 years first mono 585

[livid sierra]

Source?

[coarse aspen]

Sony is making the Mono 585 now. It's going to take a little bit for an astro cam to actually get sold though

https://www.sony-semicon.com/files/62/flyer_security/IMX585-AAMJ1_Flyer.pdf

[livid sierra]

Interesting

[steep apex]

What’s the best time to view the Pythagoras crater? Like when it just came into view

[uncut glade]

I'm so excited dude. Thanks for the link!!

[fading plume]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-buy-now-buy-it-now-gif-25006426

[indigo oak]

bit foggy out tonight

[uncut glade]

Is there a tool to show the times of saturn moon transits? Enceladus is crossing rn but it's too low for me. Would love to be able to try to bag one without dumb luck

[indigo oak]

Stellarium is used for finding transits usually

[uncut glade]

Got it

I've still got 2 hours or so to bag it, here's hoping 39 degrees of altitude is enough 💀

[coarse aspen]

does a cooled camera help with lower noise in planetary

like.. uranus c pro

[white prawn]

Dunno. Ask them for a sample and try it

[fading plume]

Nope. Not hugely at least.

[white prawn]

My answer was funnier. And would have been hilarious if someone did that and got a sample.

[fading plume]

And then never return it. Genius

[white prawn]

Honestly I would return it if that was a condition of receipt. Or pay for it if I was happy.

[green pebble]

It has always been like that, secondary mirrors are egg shaped

[green pebble]

You should join #1124173514585423973 and help us make the jupiters rotation of clouds like voyager did

[uncut glade]

It was not lol, but I got cassini division in 75% of my frames, so new record on seeing quality!

Had to do some horrifying things to get my focal ratio right

Used a 3x barlow after an f/6.3 reducer to get ~f/19 lol

It worked is the worst part

sampling was dead on

[safe compass]

seeing those pics makes me kind of want to try planetary with my 6" newt lmao

[onyx garnet]

no one gonna stop u dude

[safe compass]

ik im gonna need uranus c and a barlow then we ready

[onyx garnet]

a

[proud mulch]

I’ve always hated refractors for some reason

[green pebble]

Refractors are better, i had one but sadly sold it beacuse it had a shitty mount

[ripe shard]

Cuz you never used any

[green pebble]

Fax

[steep apex]

Missed some great seeing because my slow-mo controls don’t work

[proud mulch]

Uhh try loosening the thing

It happens to me a low and I hate it

[tidal crow]

Guys plan on getting goto mounts

Much more freedom

[steep apex]

I Tried but it didn’t work

[proud mulch]

What I mean

Is twist the knob the other way

[steep apex]

What I also did

[proud mulch]

Skip them then

[coarse aspen]

you should

[safe compass]

not sure though

[tidal crow]

Try it

[coarse aspen]

you can get ganymede detail with a 5"

#older_system_pics message

[tidal crow]

My latest 6 inch newt image

[steep apex]

I don’t know man I think teoman was hacking

[safe compass]

Oh jesus now you're gonna make me addicted to planetary imaging

[safe compass]

Huh emojis now work?

[tidal crow]

Image

[safe compass]

Are you able to see my

[green pebble]

Did you fix the collimation

[tidal crow]

I tryed

[green pebble]

Lemme ser

[tidal crow]

I kinda did

[green pebble]

See

[steep apex]

I need to learn how to collimate

[green pebble]

ASTROBISCUIT MADE A VIDEO TO HELP YOU ABOUT THAT❗❗❗❗❗

[green pebble]

Ehh, its a bit off but better

[tidal crow]

I tiny bit off because i carried it around for a bit

[green pebble]

And i guess that you primary is out of collimation

The donut is not in the center

[tidal crow]

[green pebble]

Wait, is your secondary even correctly pointed at the focuser

[steep apex]

@tidal crow yes

Found this guy again earlier

[safe compass]

What kind of Barlow would I get? 2x or 3x? I'm looking

[tidal crow]

Big shmacc daddy

Pick him up

[green pebble]

Kiss him, marry the handsome boy

[tidal crow]

Yes

[safe compass]

And what software is mostly used for planetary?

[green pebble]

Sadly from my balcony i cant see saturn so i have to be right beside a forest (there are a lot of wolfes, foxes, rabbits, wild pigs...)

[green pebble]

Firecapture

[safe compass]

[tidal crow]

Firecapture or sharp cap for imaging and registax for stacking and proccesing

[steep apex]

FireCapture for capturing the videos

PIPP for pre processing
Autostakkert for video stacking
And Registax for processing
Some other additional softwares too if you wanna get extra

[safe compass]

Only registax?

[tidal crow]

You forgot to add the creature: skinwalker

[steep apex]

There’s others like astrosurface

[coarse aspen]

depends on cam but probably 3x for an f/4

[safe compass]

I see, that's fine with me. What about Barlow? How do I know which one is the best for me?

[green pebble]

Nahh man thats why i carry my m4 with me

[coarse aspen]

i think its 3-5x pixel size is the f/ratio you need

[safe compass]

Uranus C Pro?

[coarse aspen]

that the one you have?

[safe compass]

nope, I have canon EOS 1000D which does not have the recording compatibility.

[tidal crow]

Buy a granade launher : china lake too

[coarse aspen]

if you got a uranus c pro it would work for planetary

[green pebble]

The beast with a full box of military equipment (my parents are in the military)

[steep apex]

Uranus-C Pro is mainly for deep Sky isn’t it?

[coarse aspen]

with a 3x barlow you get up to f/12, with spacing like an ADC you'll get to f/15 that you need

[safe compass]

Nope. It's for planetary

[coarse aspen]

the Uranus C pro is geared towards DSO since its cooled, but at heart its still a planetary camera.

[safe compass]

How do you mean, ADC?

[coarse aspen]

atmospheric dispersion corrector

[safe compass]

Meaning?

[coarse aspen]

corrects dispersion of light from the atmosphere, so it focuses properly. not essential but helps a lot for more serious imaging

[dark cargo]

If it has liveview you can record a video using something like eos camera movie record. https://www.astropix.com/html/equipment/canon_one_to_one_pixel_resolution.html I use it with my 600D and it works pretty well, outside of the lowish 30fps.

[tidal crow]

I hope thats the airsoft one

[safe compass]

I see. So best for me right now would be a Uranus C Pro with a Barlow 3x?

[coarse aspen]

you intend to do DSO too right?

[safe compass]

Maybe. I'm kind of in a hard spot between two lol

[coarse aspen]

uranus c pro does both

[green pebble]

[safe compass]

I see. That's efficient.

[dark cargo]

For barlow I use this formula to figure it out:
6 times pixel size in um divided by focal ratio.
But the optimal sampling is around where each pixel sees 1/4th of the dawes limit of your scope. You can just extend a barlow to be more powerful to get a 3.5x barlow out of a 2x for example

[coarse aspen]

extending a barlow too much might make it so you cant reach focus though. gotta be careful

[safe compass]

Hm, got 4.35 with Uranus C Pro, would that mean I need Barlow 4x?

[dark cargo]

yep ~4.35x, Could get a 3x and extend it to that through.

[safe compass]

I see, do you have any good 3x ones in mind?

[dark cargo]

yep would have to put it further in the tube, pretty sure.

[dark cargo]

Do you already have a barlow? I used 10cm of spacers to extend my $20 2x into a 4x and it worked alright. I think celestron x-cell 3x is one of the best barlows for planets, but I think most other decent ones would work.

[safe compass]

I do have one but it is Plossl, and does not state how much. Plus I don't see a way I can mount Uranus C Pro on it.

[dark cargo]

Wait what, but plossl is an eyepiece type?

[safe compass]

Hm, let me look.

It's been a while

[dark cargo]

as long as it's not plastic i think it would work. not sure how well through

[safe compass]

All I know is this magnifies my zoom.

[dark cargo]

ok, never seen that design before but if it's a barlow you could try using it?

[dark cargo]

Uranus-c pro comes with a 1.25" nosepiece thing so it would go in like an eyepiece into the barlow.

[safe compass]

I see. That'll have to work since it is 1.25"

[safe compass]

Question: How do you guys get a perfect focus on the planets?

[tidal crow]

I rotate the focuser slowly

[dark cargo]

Since you have a tracking mount it should be pretty easy, can focus using a feature on the planet like cassinis division(if you have good enough seeing ofc). Since I don't have a mount I just use a bahtinov mask, not entirely sure how perfect it is through.

[safe compass]

Ah makes sense, how would that work for Mars as the features really isn't visible? And Jupiter?

[tidal crow]

It really depends on the scope and camera

[dark cargo]

I think you can go off surface detail on mars, on jupiter I think you can go off either the moons or the cloud bands.

[safe compass]

I thank you for helping me. Just trying to understand things before deciding I want to expand on the planetary imaging side.

[livid sierra]

Use autoalign in FC to focus. Worked wonders when I still had my manual 6” dob. And I still use it for focusing now that I have a tracking mount

[safe compass]

FC?

[dark cargo]

Ah is that the feature where firecapture keeps the planet in the center of the window? Unfortunately I don't have a cam that firecapture supports(DSLR, raspihq cam), but ty

[livid sierra]

Oh, thought you did

[safe compass]

Last question, or probably for today xD: How do you guys slew to planets without using NINA? Or do you guys still use that only for slewing purposes?

[livid sierra]

I don’t need nina, I have a goto dob

You can see planets naked eye, can just aim my scope with the finder

With a manual dob too

[coarse aspen]

i use NINA to slew but thats because my eq mount is onstep and i never made a hand controller for it

[safe compass]

Ah, I use a tracking mount with an 6" Newt.

[coarse aspen]

thought HEQ5 has a hand controller

[uncut glade]

@hasty hull in this server does some great work with a 6” newt, it’s 100% possible. Requires a fair bit of patience though

[safe compass]

Yep, I'm aware.

[safe compass]

You're probably right, is laptop only needed for the camera?

I mean, I do have one

[coarse aspen]

Yes.

[safe compass]

Oh, that's good then

[open olive]

Cat that comes to say hi whenever I look at planets

[uncut glade]

There’s an Astro Cat where I live too!! Her name is Luna and she walks around the neighborhood all night

[steep apex]

Wish the cats at my house were as social as this cat

[safe compass]

Wish my cat wasnt lazy

[nova delta]

Did you even try to sharpen that?

[tidal crow]

Yes i did

[nova delta]

can you send me the stack

[tidal crow]

It is the final image tho

[nova delta]

i want to try and sharpen it

[tidal crow]

Just the raw image after stacking? Right?

[nova delta]

yeah

[tidal crow]

oki just wait a bit

Almost done

here ya go

[nova delta]

did you actually save it as jpg?

[tidal crow]

god damn discord compression makes my jupiter look like rubbish

[tidal crow]

probably i dunno. I use registax and pressed the "Save Image" button

[nova delta]

try saving it as bmp. I use Autostakkert so i don't know how stacking in registax works

And wow. That is really really blurry

What % of frames did you stack?

[tidal crow]

50%

[nova delta]

i'd recommend 20-30%. Anyway, it shouldn't look that blurry

Maybe focus?

[tidal crow]

it was kinda focused

[nova delta]

running out of options here

[tidal crow]

i didnt use lucky imaging tho so thats why

[nova delta]

how long was the video?

[tidal crow]

3 minutes and 19 seconds

only 1999 frames captured /:

[nova delta]

that's strange

[tidal crow]

low framerate

[nova delta]

Still, this is 90% of 2000 frames with a 90mm refractor and a zwo 120mc-s

[tidal crow]

My scope is a 6 inch newtonian that uses a goto alt az mount to track and the celestron neximage 10 D:

[nova delta]

What fl?

[tidal crow]

750mm

[nova delta]

may be one of the reasons. Still should give you some solid results

[tidal crow]

yeah...

[nova delta]

With a 6" at 750mm focal length i'd still get some pretty decent images

I'd bet it is a focusing issue

[tidal crow]

and the fact i wasnt using lucky imaging too.

[wispy pagoda]

Hi planetary nerds, I'm doing a bit of work on Seeing and I have a few questions.
First, is there some kind of map, table or formula to have an estimate of the typical seeing value of different areas around the globe? Or at least a relation between temperature and humidity and the seeing?
Second, I guess the effects of seeing are similar to applying a gaussian blur with a radius of fwhm/(2sqrt(2*ln(2))) but I also know different wavelenghts gets affected differently. What is the relation between the wavelenght and the seeing amplitude, proportional to 1/lambda, or 1/lambda^2 (as in the refraction index formula)?
Thanks for your help ^^

[little quartz]

I use https://www.goodtostargaze.com/m/ for both planetary and deep sky. Idk how accurate the seeing and transparency calculators are but they seem to be somewhat right

[proper oyster]

Any tip to get a good photo stack of saturn with manual hand tracking

Getting a stable pic

[steep apex]

What equipment are you using?

Also, if you take let’s say 9 minute vids on Saturn (30k frames), would Saturn be blurred by its rotation?

Because I take 10k frames and my Saturn is super noisy

[white prawn]

I stick to ~3 min vid, normally 2:45. I've been able to get 8K frames from that w/ my setup (ASI585) so it's not the number of frames.

[white prawn]

When imaging, be as careful and smooth as you can, that's all I've got. It takes practice.

[proper oyster]

200/1000mm newtonian scope with a eq5mount

[proper oyster]

Ok

[livid sierra]

Use 5-10ms exposures, 60-80% histogram is fine

[steep apex]

What camera and capturing software?

[barren dune]

Left is single stack right is a dero of a few stacks

[proper oyster]

Just using a canon t1i with nothing else on the telescope

Camera fully stock

[steep apex]

Yeah so basically what Steve_C2 said, and also try to figure out how to get the most frames possible

[little quartz]

I could really use collimation and an adc 😭

[white prawn]

Collimation? I'm not seeing anything off. Colour ... that can be fixed in post.

[little quartz]

My c8 is from 1975 and i dont believe it was every collimated, or at least collimated recently and when I unfocused a star I could see the secondary wasnt dead on but it wasnt bad. Also the red and blue fringing on edges may be a combination of no adc and CA from a cheap barlow im not sure.

[white prawn]

Ah, I see. I didn't see the effect of imperfect collimation, FWIW. RGB Align in preprocess can fix fringing, which again didn't stand out to me. However, it's something that I used before I got my ADC. And accidentally after, as well.

[little quartz]

ah ill have to try that. Im more of a deep sky guy so im fairly new to planetary so all these tips are very helpful

[white prawn]

Glad to help.

[barren dune]

Collimation plays a role in fringing the better your collimation is the less fringe you will have an adc cuts out all fringe but having as best collimation you can manage should do most of the work

[green pebble]

Yesterday my collimation was spot on, the seeing and transparency was awesome and i expect some good results

[green pebble]

@tidal crow whatcha get?

[tidal crow]

Yesterday?

[green pebble]

Wth discord

[green pebble]

Ye

[tidal crow]

I couldnt stack it

[green pebble]

Send the data

[tidal crow]

Registax just glitched

[green pebble]

...

[tidal crow]

i cant...

[green pebble]

how

[tidal crow]

discord doesnt let me

its like 5 gb

[green pebble]

google drive?

[tidal crow]

yeah hold on a bit

[green pebble]

k

[green pebble]

You done?

[tidal crow]

almost. my wifi is slow af

[green pebble]

Ok no hurry

[tidal crow]

i am gonna use my friends account i hope thats fine

i mean why shouldnt it be fine

anyway

[green pebble]

Yeah sure

[green pebble]

BRO IM WAITING AN HOUR

How slow can your widi be?

wifi

[tidal crow]

gogol drive storag ended

[green pebble]

sooo you have no storage?

ahhhh

welp

if you cant send it try stacking again, and dont stack in registax, stack in autostakkert

[tidal crow]

The data doesnt even load in

[green pebble]

Use pipp to crop the data, autostakkert to stack and registax to sharpen

If you need help we can do it thru the call on discord

Let me cook

Oh

Its overcooked

[green pebble]

@tidal crow did you stack it?

Did you make it

[tidal crow]

The same probleme happens

[green pebble]

If not i can help you thru screen sharing

[tidal crow]

No need . I will find a another way

[green pebble]

If you need help aks

Ask

[tidal crow]

Ok

[left spindle]

Is moon allowed here?

[green pebble]

I guess yeah

[steep apex]

I need some help with some planetary imaging

I’m trying to get Saturn less noisy without being it too dim in the live feed while also having good frame rate

The lowest I can go is probably 300 gain and maybe 10-25 exposure ms

How do I make it have less gain while also having a bright Saturn in the live feed

Also FC is the capturing software

The best I can do

[white prawn]

I think that's a classic "either or" situation.

[uncut glade]

I resolved encke in my first stack LMAOOOOO 💀

Absolutely insane lol

[dark cargo]

Higher gain decreases readnoise at the cost of dynamic range, you actually want to have a decently high gain. What camera do you have? Saturn is also fairly dim so you can't get as high fps as other planets. picture is pretty good through, not ideal seeing so you might not be able to sharpen it any more than that.

[steep apex]

Neptune-C II

[dark cargo]

300 gain seems to have pretty low readnoise, this is the chart of readnoise from https://player-one-astronomy.com/product/neptune-c-ii-usb3-0-color-camera-imx464/ The page loads a stupid amount of large images through so be warned.

Probably the best you could do? saturn is quite a lot dimmer than the other big visible planets. I have to use a shutter speed of 1/60th for it compared to around 1/300th for jupiter

[steep apex]

@dark cargo Thank you!

[livid sierra]

@steep apex use the histogram to determine exposure and gain. 60-80% histogram. If you think Saturn is too dim in the liveview to see, use the screen adjustment feature to increase gamma/brightness. It only affects the preview, not the data recorded

I image Saturn with ~8ms exposures and around 500+ gain.

[uncut glade]

The histogram rule, is that for ease of processing or is it for like, actual SNR purposes I don’t know about? Because I’ve been imaging at about 30% histogram to punch through my seeing

[remote star]

I found that lowering the gain and exposure more than you need also helps

by that I mean you can take a pretty dark video and then brighten it up

did that today and I found it helped a lot

[random pecan]

That’s awesome

[steep apex]

You guys think getting more frames (thinking 20k-30k) would pull out more bands and resolve Cassini more?

[indigo oak]

20-30k seems like more than enough. How’s your seeing?

[steep apex]

Fair-good seeing, what I can resolve with only 10k frames is just the central band and Cassini

[indigo oak]

Saturns fairly difficult tbh, never rises high for me

The first and only time I’ve managed to capture it in the 2 years I’ve been doing Astro https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/794651916646350859/1007516260533280768/unknown.png

[uncut glade]

To say you resolved something, would it technically be accurate to say that even if it was 1 pixel wide?

Like say, imaging features on ganymede that are 0.1" wide, and your pixel scale is 0.1", and the feature is apparent in that single pixel as a color or contrast variation, does that count as resolving them?

Or is that just a detection?

2x2 pixels counts obviously, but I'm just wondering because the definitions seems up in the air, no pun intended ;)

[hasty hull]

Wouldn’t say so in most cases

Like plenty of stars are under a tenth of an arcsecond across and many people’s pixel scales are even smaller than that

But you couldn’t have resolved the star even if your resolution is theoretically enough

[uncut glade]

Second, likely far dumber question, even with lucky or speckle imaging techniques thats not possible? I don't see how we can resolve detail finer than that on ganymede, like Tom's blue image from opposition, but we can't say we've resolved asteroids that size?

Thank you for the response btw

[hasty hull]

Something something diffraction limit idk the in depth explanation, but resolving a small detail on a disc is much different than resolving a disc the size of the small detail

Which is why getting Ganymede/Io detail is much easier when they’re in transit across Jupiter

Because they essentially become a part of Jupiter’s disc then

[uncut glade]

Ohhhh

That makes sense, thanks!

[steep apex]

Ken why u call 8” smol scope

[eternal solstice]

compared to a 16, 22, inch

it is smol

[safe compass]

[somber stratus]

6in and below is small, 10 and above is big. 8 is just the middle ground in my opinion.

[safe compass]

me with my 6 inch newt

[wispy pagoda]

I have this video from the last transit I captured but I have no idea how to process it, registax's batch processing is a mess and the harsh orientation changes (from the equatorial table reset) make it quite hard to align

[safe compass]

guys, what softwares do you guys use for getting best frames from a footage, stacking and taking videos?

[thin aspen]

I use autostakkert to get the best frames for planetary and to stack

[safe compass]

i see, autostakkert for stacking but what software do you use to take videos?

[thin aspen]

I use DSLR so don’t use any

Fire capture looks good

Or sharp cap but have no experience with both

[dark cargo]

depends on your camera, if you are using the 1000D, I recommend eos camera movie record, theres a link to it on this page: https://www.astropix.com/html/equipment/canon_one_to_one_pixel_resolution.html

All my planetary images were taken using it with my 600D

[safe compass]

I'll have to find a way to somehow attach my Barlow though

[dark cargo]

Just put the t-ring into the barlow and put barlow in scope, should work fine.

[safe compass]

is CC required for planetary imaging though?

[dark cargo]

Also you might want to extend the barlow to make it more powerful with your setup, I use this formula to figure out a decent barlow power for planetary: 6 times pixel size in um divided by focal ratio

[safe compass]

figured mine out, around 4x.

[dark cargo]

Nope, you'd be imaging from near the center of the view anyway coma won't be an issue unless you image on the edges i guess?

[safe compass]

Ah true, i see.

[safe compass]

I don't understand.

I can't seem to find a way to attach the barlow with t-ring to my camera.

[dark cargo]

Does the t-ring have a nosepiece?

[safe compass]

Nevermind found it. Now it's very long lol

[dark cargo]

good goooood.... Embrace the spacers.
I needed around 10cm of spacers to turn my 2x into a 4x, and that is from the top of the barlow to the t-ring

[safe compass]

the outside is the extension, and the middle part is barlow connected to a t-ring

hope it's clear tonite so i can test if this actually works lmfao

No my bad, the outer part is 1.25" attacher, and i have a extension tube so it can be even longer

[lyric peak]

why is it like leaving some part out

and yes I did press "do all"

[high hull]

failed the vibe check

[main flume]

Bc of procesing area

you can move it i'm pretty sure

[lyric peak]

ik ik. does not help tho

[lyric peak]

boom. The good old Iphone 8 moon

[topaz elk]

very realistic stars sir

[lyric peak]

They are indeed from another image I took. Just not from this night

Idk how else I should have done it

[uncut glade]

Fair lol, I like the softness of the edit compared to some i've been seeing

[uncut glade]

best frame from some temporary good seeing, is that encke on the bottom left?

Or am I losing it

[uncut glade]

Sharpened it

it is

that's insane lol

[lyric peak]

Wow that’s good

[uncut glade]

Ok im processing it now and I'm super excited about the results, but I'm realizing that during transport my collimation failed. The left side of my scope was off, so I'm getting ghost limbs and parabolic moons

It's a slight issue, not major, but a little bumed

[steep apex]

How do I fix

The atmosphere is so bad that Saturn is flickering

[uncut glade]

Move to new mexico

[steep apex]

It goes from mag .5 to like 2 every .5 seconds naked eye

[uncut glade]

Good lord

I've seen it go from Mag 1 to 0.5 but not that bad

[steep apex]

This thing named Irwin is the cause

[uncut glade]

Ah

Suboptimal

[steep apex]

Hopefully it’ll calm down in an hour

Or I could just record and deem I’ve seen the worst atmospheric wobble ever to be recorded

[uncut glade]

New pickering scale

-1/10

Airy disk is just a straight up circle an arcminute wide

[uncut glade]

How do yall fix color balance with saturn

This is what the raw data looks like when derotated, and even with color correction in registax it looks like this

The fringing is killing me

[thin aspen]

RGB align?

[topaz elk]

nah

you should be able to defringe with photoshop

should too on pixinsight but idk how to do that

somethin like this ig

@uncut glade

[uncut glade]

Oh word, didn't know it could look like that, I'll get photoshop access when I hit up the computer lab tomorrow

I already did RGB align sadly, came out like this from capture

[topaz elk]

yeah its just optics ig

[uncut glade]

https://tenor.com/view/cereal-throw-angry-guy-out-of-milk-gif-14265412

[safe compass]

@dark cargo i had an question, would it be generally better for planetary imaging if i were to use CC? since it'd mean i'd have more room in my fov to use for planetary imaging instead of being limited to only the center

[dark cargo]

Actually if you are using an F4 scope, it's probably a good idea, faster scopes have more coma pretty sure. No idea how to manage backfocus etc with it through. If you have a tracking mount I think you'd be fine just keeping it centered, even jupiter won't be much more than 250x250 pixels

[safe compass]

Just as expected. But yeah the backfocus might be issue even if I use barlow. Hope it's clear night today so I can test.

Thank for your input!

[proud mulch]

I just color grade in Lightroom, or just wait for Saturn to be higher

[uncut glade]

I’ll try that out too, my problem is that this was at altitude. 40 degrees is all I got :((

[proud mulch]

Ok I have it just as bad

[uncut glade]

Still working on that, going to try to use some computer labs at my college for Lightroom

[lyric peak]

Having good seeing rn. This is just a screenshot from the live vid

[tardy iris]

would anyone be willing to process a stacked saturn of mine, i tend to over cook it?

[uncut glade]

I'd be down to try!

[tardy iris]

If the quality graph looks like this, what percentage should i stack? (5k+ frames)

[uncut glade]

I generally do a stack at the point where the graph intersects the vertical 50% line, and then double that to test SNR vs detail

Horizontal****

So in this case, at like the 5% and 10 percent marks

[safe compass]

@dark cargo hope i'm not interrupting by pinging you, i don't know what time it is for you, but i'm looking at jupiter using my liveview and i cannot see any details other than it being a ''orange-ish'' glob

I might try using CC

nevermind, can't find a way to attach both

[tardy iris]

Thanks man

Just went out and tried my new setup, 8” dob, 585mc, ADC and televue 3x. I’ll share the stacked image and if you want you can process it as I’m not very good at registax 😂

@uncut glade So for this one i should stack 20% and 40%?

[coarse aspen]

focus? exposure

[safe compass]

i've been messing around those two yes, but couldn't get it to resolve the bands on jupiter

[tardy iris]

SATURN
Here is my data (20% 40% 60%) if someone would like to process them and figure out which stack is the best i'd appreciate it

[safe compass]

my very poor attempt at imaging jupiter

[steep apex]

I’m gonna have to kindly ask you guys to give me good seeing conditions 🙏

[white prawn]

I'm going to have to ask, what did you use?

[lyric peak]

I had really nice seeing tonight

[steep apex]

What where you viewing

[lyric peak]

Moon, Jupiter and Saturn

[steep apex]

Lucky you

Predicted good seeing tomorrow

[uncut glade]

That's what I would do! It's always worth playing around with your settings until you find a good balance of SNR and detail for that days session. I might even consider doing a 13% run with that. High quality and good signal still

[tardy iris]

Well this was with 20%, a quick process as I’m not very good with registax but it’s my best Saturn ever

[steep apex]

Very nice data…the features in Saturn itself are good! Your processing looks good

[remote dragon]

i think there's some signal in your noise

[dark cargo]

If you are collimated and the scope had some time to cool down outside it could have been just terrible seeing. Also for that picture you posted below were you not using a barlow at all? At 600mm fl with big dlsr pixels the planet will be really small, actually at F4 its gonna be pretty hard to get the right barlow power.... Actually damn really hard as your pixel size if 5.7um, using the formula: 6 times 5.7 divided by 4 = You'd want an 8.55x barlow..... I think it's possible to get that by stacking barlow or something but it would be really cursed.

[white prawn]

@safe compass stacking Barlow could work and with surprising results. One of my better Saturn images that I got from my DSLR was taken through 2 - 2x Barlows stacked.

Stacking 3 2x Barlows would get you close though if I'm doing my math right.

Woah that would be a little cursed.

[safe compass]

CC, Canon EOS 1000D on 6" F/4 newt

[safe compass]

Nope, I couldn't find an way to fit Barlow with CC, because I was seeing some intense chromatic abbreations

[safe compass]

Will definitely try that, although I'm not sure because of the fact my newt can't focus 3 colors in one point lok

[safe compass]

But my guess is I set the ISO too high, 800 for it.

[lyric peak]

is it normal for pipp to output a 136gb file after processing a 6000 frames video

[fading plume]

Yes. If you didn’t crop anything or debayered the footage.

[lyric peak]

ok thanks

[deep island]

Saturn of the 30/08. At 23:20~

• Moon Titan in the lower left corner and Tethys just above Saturn's ring.
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  📋 Exif:
  🔭 114/900mm, eq3 with onstep. Barlow 2x Omni + 6mm svbony eyepiece.
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  ⚙ 400x400px 130 FPS ~

08/30 saturn to the 🦅 🇺🇸

[coarse aspen]

OHHHHHHHHH

THATS WHY JUPITER APPEARED WHITE

Don't do planetary with NINA

[safe compass]

??

wtf i wasnt

[coarse aspen]

NINA auto-stretches everything

[safe compass]

i was not using nina

my theory is i set ISO too damn high, 800

[coarse aspen]

What did you use

[safe compass]

i use handcontroller for tracking and thats it, no softwares used

only dslr and CC

[coarse aspen]

thats odd because uh

thats exactly what NINA outputs usually

an autostretched image

wait

[safe compass]

are you saying

how

[coarse aspen]

which file viewer did you use?

[safe compass]

its not even attached to my laptop with an cable or anything

[safe compass]

just an average Photo

[coarse aspen]

just microsoft or windows whatever?

[coarse aspen]

oh okay that'll do it

[safe compass]

ye windows thing

but the thing is i deleted it

[coarse aspen]

they auto stretch RAW images to make them brighter

[safe compass]

[coarse aspen]

for some reason

[safe compass]

wtf

well

[coarse aspen]

yeah its annoying

[safe compass]

dam it how do i not make them do that

[coarse aspen]

thats a good question I just used a different file viewer

[safe compass]

like?

[coarse aspen]

try faststone image viewer

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.

oh wait if i didnt empty the trashbin

[coarse aspen]

same image but viewed through different file viewrs

you can see how windows absolutely deep fried it

[safe compass]

da fuq

yep

it automatically autostretches

bro istg how do i stop it autostretching

@coarse aspen what fileviewer do u use

[coarse aspen]

Faststone image viewer

[safe compass]

oh thank god

the details r gone

[white prawn]

What are you using to capture?

[safe compass]

my dslr

canon eos 1000D

with 6" newt and CC

[white prawn]

You need a Barlow, my dude

This is the best I could do w/ my EOS 2000D and 8" w/o Barlow.

[lyric peak]

just some random crators with my 8" and phone

[white prawn]

I noticed a blue spot in that image. I know that Uranus hasn't been far away from Jupiter. So is that noise, a star, or did you wind up capturing one of our ice giants by accident?

[safe compass]

a noise

it's too dark blue

ye probably a noise

[white prawn]

Aw.

[safe compass]

i doubt a six inch newtonian would resolve it, but definitely good question

[white prawn]

True point. I wouldn't call that "resolved" as much as "spotted" but that still would have been neat.

[safe compass]

i forgot uranus was next to jupiter at the time of shooting this lol

[white prawn]

This is what I had for my later planetary imaging:

https://www.telescope.com/Orion/Orion-High-Power-125-5x-4-Element-Barlow-Lens/rc/2160/p/101911.uts?keyword=5x barlow

And it's $20 less now than what I paid for it

[safe compass]

I see.

[safe compass]

actually, no. you've left me doubting whether it is noise or not

[white prawn]

I need a Goto so that I can point it and track planetary instead of manual "shaky-track"

[livid sierra]

Definitely not Uranus

It’s way too far for that to be possible and I can already see 4 identical blue dots in the image

It’s noise

[coarse aspen]

pretty sure uranus can be resolved by a 6" with enough magnification

might not get details but..

uhh let me see if willaf got uranus with his

ah yes willaf did image uranus

#older_system_pics message

looks like he got a tiny bit of detail with a 6"

[safe compass]

that does...

bring me motivation and hope to be the best 6" newt user in planetary imaging

[white prawn]

5x Barlow my dude 🙂

[safe compass]

yeppes

[steep apex]

Yummy seeing

[tidal crow]

Thanks to @green pebble for helping me procces i also have other pics

[safe compass]

damn specs?

[tidal crow]

Kinda blurry tho

[tidal crow]

This mf. (6 inch newtonian,celestron neximag 10 + skywatcher 2x barlow.

[green pebble]

Yeh, you only need to improve your stacking and processing skills and its good

[tidal crow]

Yup

[safe compass]

NIICE

[tidal crow]

Does dew covering the mirrors count tho??

[green pebble]

I got this with my 5 inch skywatcher and my phonr

[tidal crow]

Goto mount wasnt freaky that time

[tidal crow]

NICCCCCCEEEEE

[green pebble]

Yeeeeeee

[tidal crow]

Red spot 3rd the junior is visible

[green pebble]

Lucky you, my weather is bad rn, its windy and cloudy

[tidal crow]

It is clear for me but guess what. School is tommorow for me and i gotta go 1 hour back to town

Im waking up early

Very early

[green pebble]

Yeah i know, its my first day of high school tomorow and i already know that the people from my clasroom are going to be a bad influence to me

Ngl im scared

[tidal crow]

The school started 3 days ago but the weekend saved me a bit of time

[tidal crow]

No worries

Just like the mom says

[green pebble]

Every mom says, but mom aint no therapist

[tidal crow]

Man . I want to get a new astro cam

Uranus c of course

[green pebble]

Save up

Just like i did

It took me months to order my asi224mc

[tidal crow]

I would love to go to my moms job to pack boxes. 100 box is 20 euro. Not bad job lol

[green pebble]

Not bad

[safe compass]

Lol

I'm waiting for my Uranus C

[tidal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-meme-gif-16107418

[green pebble]

When i was working at a gas station i got like 10 euro an hour

I still saved up like 400 euro in a week

[safe compass]

10 an hour? Niiice

[green pebble]

Yup

[tidal crow]

The box packing is painful. The box cardboard is very thin and its cutting my hands

Sometimes blood

[safe compass]

Wyf

Wtf*

[tidal crow]

But i mean thats a snack

[green pebble]

Yeah, cleaning windows on cars broke my back and killed my arms

[tidal crow]

Oh god

[green pebble]

Blood is tasty

I was so desperate for my asi224mc that i even went sick to work

[tidal crow]

I cant disagree. My blood is sweet. (I have no medical condition dont worry)

[safe compass]

I was so desperate for a proper planetary camera so I went for Uranus C with my birthday money

[green pebble]

I only have adhd but thats a mental disorder, i have a friend that has hemophilia

[tidal crow]

Im hoping to do that too

[green pebble]

Lucky, you didnt even have to work for money

[safe compass]

Yep I'm basically waiting for it to get shipped so I'll have fun imaging

[safe compass]

That's true, but I still do feel guilty kek

[green pebble]

My shop didnt have it at stock so i gotta wait a week more

[tidal crow]

From where did you order it?

[safe compass]

From their website, Player One

I bought it because it had free shipping.

[tidal crow]

Ouch. The delivery costs oh. FREE?

[safe compass]

Yes, free worldwide shipping

[tidal crow]

OOO MAH GAWDD

YEEEEE

[safe compass]

They have free worldwide shipping for those products that cost more than 199.

[green pebble]

But tax?

[tidal crow]

who pays taxes tbh

[green pebble]

I wanted to order mars c but i didnt beacuse of tax

[safe compass]

Uhm, we don't do that here

Apparently no tax too

Or idk, never hurts to check though

[green pebble]

Sadly shipping to croatia does have tax and shipping fee

[safe compass]

Huh weird

[green pebble]

In croatia we call it PDV

[tidal crow]

In lithuania we dont call it. The taxes are too expensive to a point you cant verbally explain that 💀

The goverment is def not trying to find me

Anyway. Lets forget that

That weird bird came back

Its very loud and i hear it only at nights

[tardy iris]

What software is that and how do you do that tracking?

[steep apex]

FireCapture with the Cut Out tool

[tardy iris]

does that increase the fps and only capture the cut out?

[steep apex]

Not sure about the FPS but it helps your ram keep in place, and yes it only captures the cut out

The Exposure setting will help your FPS, keep that low and you’ll have a lot

[tardy iris]

So i can keep full resolution on the camera so i can see the whole frame but it will only capture the cut out? Would it record as if it was a smaller ROI where i'd get more FPS or will it still have the same FPS as a full frame?

[steep apex]

Not sure, I haven’t used ROI.
You might have to experiment with that

[vapid depot]

if data transfer speed is the limitation and not exposure time for frames per second, then an ROI will increase the maximum fps u can get

[white prawn]

@tardy iris @steep apex on my ASI585 I use ROI on sharpcap, and what @vapid depot is correct; smaller ROI will get more FPS and less dropped frames.

[somber stratus]

RAM buffer also prevents frame drops

[astral zenith]

The bottom right bright blue dot is Neptune

[candid flare]

Anyone gonna do Neptune opposition

[proud mulch]

It’ll make no difference lol

[green pebble]

I wanna die