Planetary Imaging

[proud mulch]

Also, filters are useful

Or small bits of sunlight to get rid of overexposure

@white prawn what phone type? Android or iPhone?

[white prawn]

So basically same process that I've been using on my DSLR except I video for about 3mins (more data = better potential if everything goes well).

I have a Samsung S8, iPhone 11 and iPhone 14. Normally I adjust ISO/gain in video, but I haven't found a way to do that on any of my devices. I've tried w/ a moon filter (because the planets are very bright of course and the moon filter helps mitigate that) but that only turns Jupiter's "OH MY WORD I'M BLIND" brightness into less bright. Same for saturn. The Jupiter/Saturn filters I have are pretty useless for visual or AP. They came w/ a Celestron lens kit that was otherwise pretty good.

[eternal solstice]

Bruh you got a collection of phones

[eternal solstice]

But there is a app called nightcap

On IOS

I would use the newest phone you have which is the IPhone 14

[random pecan]

You can makeshift a cheap camera using imx462 sensors

Albeit it’s not the best quality control like at all

[white prawn]

Might try that, thanks!

[white prawn]

😆

[proud mulch]

I just use the default app for video

What I do is darken it to my liking, and if there is weird gain errors, I focus on the object

I hold the focus, enabling AE/AF lock which is VERY important if you want this to work

I zoom in about 3x (gotta remember I don’t have a telephoto zoom camera on an iPhone 11)

I don’t know what the best options are for iPhones with zoom cameras

[white prawn]

I use default app for video as well, but all I get in video mode for any planet is a ball of light with no distinction of color. Just white. Saturn has ears.

[proud mulch]

Use high power, and zoom in

[uncut glade]

Darn you collimation, still got it though. C11, 3x Ultima barlow and Uranus-C

That camera is a beast man

[somber stratus]

Saturn UV can’t hurt you:

[near quiver]

This looks like most peoples first phone image

[tidal crow]

@proud mulch hows your cam doin did you test it or cloudy?

[onyx garnet]

what aperture is required to get saturn's fainter inner rings

^ ofc along with decent seeing

[white prawn]

Depending on imaging equipment and Barlow lenses, I suspect you could accomplish it w/ an 8"

[onyx garnet]

I only have a 6"

though time to time the owner will invite me for free to use the 15" classical cassegrain at the local observatory

[hasty hull]

C Ring visible here with my 6”

[onyx garnet]

what other equipment (camera filters etc)

[hasty hull]

Mars-C + uv/ir cut and 3x Barlow

[onyx garnet]

i have my uranus-c, 2x and 3x barlow, baader contrast booster, zwo ir cut filter and a couple of others including player one ir685nm

[random pecan]

We have a similar setup

The cloud gods have not been kind to be however

[hasty hull]

same

[cloud copper]

Is a svbony sv705c better than my ceres-c, I've found it dirt cheap and idk if I should buy it.

[livid sierra]

It utilises the imx585, same sensor as the Uranus-C so I’d say it’s good. But I don’t know what svbony drivers and support is like in fc and stuff

[cloud copper]

Fc= firecapture?

[livid sierra]

Yes

[cloud copper]

Yea it does support svbony cameras

[tidal crow]

Sharpcap or firecapture

[eternal solstice]

Nah it’s way better.

See this terror

[uncut glade]

Collimation fixed as much as I can without a tribahtinov, GRS time

7/10 seeing too

Nevermind 💀💀💀 became 2/10 in 2 minutes

[proud mulch]

Jupiter Saturn and Uranus yay

[white prawn]

How big is your scope?

[proud mulch]

130mm or 5.1”

[green pebble]

Holy smokes, thats a big improvment. IM IMPRESSED

[proud mulch]

That’s what an astrocam does

[green pebble]

Oh my god i might buy one for myself

[proud mulch]

How much u got

[green pebble]

Currently 30 euro

[proud mulch]

If you got like 250$ or less get the Neptune C-II

[green pebble]

I probably will

[proud mulch]

If u want max stuff, Uranus-C but it’s 400$

[green pebble]

I will get Neptune c-II

[proud mulch]

And if you are broke in the trenches, mars-C

[green pebble]

Mars-C is an option

wait lemme see the options here

[proud mulch]

And if you are deep into the caves of the trenches, ceres-c

[green pebble]

Okey

[proud mulch]

Or asi224mc

So basically get Neptune c II or Uranus c

NOT REGULAR NEPTUNE C

[green pebble]

ok

[tidal crow]

410 euro budget guy steps im chat who is not tracked and already has a planetary camera but wants to do deepspace

[green pebble]

Now what do i chose, Ceres C or ASI120S planetary. Both are for 149$

[proud mulch]

Get Neptune C-II

[somber stratus]

UV Saturn

[white prawn]

They look to be roughly equivalent. Flip a coin? I was looking for something to do planetary or DSO, and it was either ASI585 vs Uranus-C. Both used the same sensor, Uranus-C was less expensive at the time but the 585 was in stock so I have a 585.

If you go ASI you might find yourself headed to a full ZWO/ASI setup, they're designed to work well w/ each other. Player1 Products don't have the same "walled garden" approach as ZWO. If you are looking to expand more in the future take that into consideration.

Otherwise, flip a coin.

[green pebble]

Im deep in the trenches

Im flipping the coin

[white prawn]

The SV105 is $60. According to sources, they've improved their drivers. The good stuff I got from it was ... pretty good

[green pebble]

Well which one is better

[proud mulch]

Never get sv105

Or any svbony camera

[green pebble]

Copy that

I will probably get the ceres c

[proud mulch]

Look man just save up money

Get the mars c

It’s only like 70 bucks more

[green pebble]

Well i got other stuff i wanna safe money on, i also want to get a goto mount so i just want to save as much money i can

[proud mulch]

And twastro used to use it with the 12” dob

[proud mulch]

A good camera should take high priority

[green pebble]

HMHMHMHHM aight

I will see how much i can save up when i get to work at the gas station

[proud mulch]

After all the only difference between these 2 is the camera

[green pebble]

i see yeah

[proud mulch]

Wrong process oops this one

And also make sure you have an acceptable quality laptop

Just find a random old one you never use

[green pebble]

i have the acer one with ryzen 3 and vega 8 gpu so im aight

[proud mulch]

Ok that’s is good

[white prawn]

I've actually been impressed with what the laptop I'm using can do for imaging. 10th gen Core i5 w/ 8GB RAM, Intel UHD Graphics and Radeon 610 series.

I still think the reason I struggled w/ Svbony was firmware/drivers that have since been updated.

Because the ASI585 runs butter-smooth

[clear pier]

damn nice improvement gj looking good

[green pebble]

I did a reprocess of my old jupiter data, this is with my first scope BRESSER 90/900 reflector and it was awesome for a beginer scope

[green pebble]

Here is another of my reprocess with the red spot

[coarse aspen]

wow nice improvement

You'll have a lot more room to grow with this new camera

[proud mulch]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1131992181381550310

If anyone wanna do processing here

[random pecan]

It really is wild how good astrocams are compared to a phone or dslrs, me and you both got a lot of improvement to go tho

Can’t wait to see how good your images get man they’re already great tbh

[random pecan]

Mars-c is great

No clue why there’s vignetting on the Jupiter but I know it’s probably from some post process software and me accidentally adding it lmao

[green pebble]

Dayummm thats some good shit, do you know ehy is suturn blurry?

[white prawn]

How low is Jupiter on the Horizon?

[random pecan]

Fog on my scope

I’m in East Tennessee us so it gets cold then hot cold then hot and it makes my scope Dewey

[green pebble]

Ok, got me worried there

[random pecan]

The camera is great I need a few shield tho lmao

My solution now for that is a huge fan blowing into the scopes corrector plate

As I’m not gonna spend any money

So you’re soon to be tracked?

[hasty hull]

mars-c is based

[green pebble]

Im not sure yet, but probably gonna buy the ra motor

Just for the start

[green pebble]

Looks like im going to get Mars-C

Beacuse mars is my fav planet

[proud mulch]

true

[tidal crow]

I reccomend getting Neptune C II not the first one or if you save up more money uranus c

[green pebble]

Im getting Mars-C i dont need something better or worse

[tidal crow]

I honestly dont know cons and pros of mars c but its sensor looks tiny and i would get a better cam...

[hasty hull]

136fps at max res, but yeah the small fov can be a pain to deal with at high FL

[tidal crow]

For me neximage 10 with fl 750 is huge pain

[nova delta]

And i operate a ZWO 120 with tiny tiny pixels at 2250fl

[proud mulch]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1132058947877093436 gl lol

[random pecan]

Mars c sensor size isn’t that big of a deal

I use one on a 6se at 3000-4000fl and it works great

[hasty hull]

Are you tracked

[random pecan]

Yes

But I’ve done it on my 6se untracked aswell

Again the size wasn’t a big issue

[hasty hull]

Yeah it’s not hard but takes some getting used to

But a wider sensor would be a good investment

[clear pier]

a uranus c with a barlow is a little difficult to do planetary untracked honestly

or it might just be my telescope being bad

[random pecan]

It can be hard but untracked gets easier

[hasty hull]

Uranus C is probably the best for untracked, big sensor

[random pecan]

Yeah

But the price can be a turn off

[clear pier]

yea it’s huge i love it though

[random pecan]

Uranus c is a god send and you should get it over any other planetary cam really

[clear pier]

i was originally gonna buy a 224mc but then el em si convinced me to get the uranus

it is i feel like im not letting it live up to it’s potential honestly

i think i’ve been getting good results but idk

[hasty hull]

It takes time to get everything figured out, your stuff is pretty good tho

[random pecan]

Well yk except for a 533

[clear pier]

thanks, gain and exposure still confuse the hell out of me

[random pecan]

Yeah Uranus c is awesome

[clear pier]

like i think jupiter’s still a little din and the colors aren’t good

[random pecan]

Do you know the exposure of it?

[clear pier]

and saturn’s a little dim as well

[clear pier]

lemme check

[random pecan]

That could be great

[clear pier]

what do you mean?

[clear pier]

gain 246, 11.14ms exposure on jupiter

[random pecan]

This was 50ms exposure time and I think 200 gain

[clear pier]

oh dang that’s crisp

[random pecan]

Higher exposure

Ehhhh the dew ruined it

[clear pier]

oh what the crap dang my exposure is low then

no that’s great damn

[hasty hull]

50ms is too long imo, gotta shoot fast enough to beat the atmosphere

[random pecan]

True

[clear pier]

i just don’t wanna overexpose that’s the issue

[random pecan]

25 works good and 10ms should’ve worked great

[clear pier]

saturn was gain 361 and exposure 15.5

[random pecan]

Gotcha I’m still new

Atleast for planetary

[hasty hull]

If your seeing is amazing you could get away with it, but in most cases I do ~15ms for Saturn and 10ms for Jup

[clear pier]

ahh damn it i see so i was right with that

so why are my images so dim and colorless?

[hasty hull]

Do you have the raw stacks still

[clear pier]

i have the ser files

[random pecan]

Gotcha my seeing was just above average

So should I bump the gain up

[clear pier]

here's a raw stack

[cloud copper]

Guys, why does saturn become multicolored after I run the avi file trough pipp? I use a ceres-c and record with firecapture

[hasty hull]

are you using the right bayer pattern

[cloud copper]

I just checked the box

Is there a right bayer pattern?

[hasty hull]

sometimes PIPP doesnt do the right one automatically

different cameras are different but mine uses RGGB

[cloud copper]

How do I know which to pick

[near quiver]

try them until the grid pattern goes away

[cloud copper]

And do I do this in pipp or firecapture?

[hasty hull]

pipp

[clear pier]

huh slightly brighter nice

how’d you do it?

[hasty hull]

increased exposure in Gimp

looks like atmospheric dispersion was rough, colors arent quite right no matter what i do

[clear pier]

ahh i see i don’t have gimp i might have to try it

yea LOL it was terrible

[hasty hull]

happens

[clear pier]

this was a raw stack from an earlier session

[hasty hull]

hopefully you get some good seeing soon lol

[clear pier]

yea i need it lol thanks

it’s probably the fact that im in hell that the seeing is worse

[hasty hull]

do you have a jupiter stack at all

[clear pier]

8%

[cloud copper]

What do I select in here?

[heavy mirage]

Sheesh

[clear pier]

um

im trying to install the po camera driver

but this is showing

[white prawn]

99 align points? What happens if you trim it down, say increase size of APs so that you come down to somewhere between 10-20?

[clear pier]

i made it to be the smallest size, i'll try increasing

[white prawn]

Also, when you did PIPP did you use debayer?

[clear pier]

yup

[white prawn]

Hm. RGGB? I'm looking at it on my computer and I'm getting the planet and 2 distinct halos around it, that's why I'm wondering.

[hasty hull]

Just needs RGB aligned

Oh wait you already have that open

I didn’t see

[white prawn]

Check the debayer pattern, make sure it's RGGB. I've had to "back to the drawing board" after coming this far. Kinda stinks.

[clear pier]

yup rggb, and i think atmospheric dispersion was just really bad?

[white prawn]

Possibly. Did you try it w/ fewer APs?

[clear pier]

lemme try rn

go for 10-11 aps?

i have 14 i think that’s good?

raw file with 14 aps

wait wtf is that better already

nvm it's not im getting distinct rings as well

[white prawn]

You're right, it is coming out better. The distinct rings are a product of AD.

[clear pier]

is it coming out better?

it looks very similar to me

and yea i think the atmosphere was being goofy

[white prawn]

What I'm watching is the banding in Saturn. It seems to be more defined w/ less AP's. It's slight, but I can see it.

Taking that through the process to fix the colors would bring the distinction out even more.

The only thing we're really struggling with is the effect of atmosphere.

[clear pier]

hmm ok well im going to wake up at 3:45 for more data this morning on jupiter and saturn so im gonna use less aps there, thanks for clarifying i always thought that more was better

[white prawn]

I once processed a moon crater with ONE AP.

Because it was the one that actually pre-processed without hashing everything.

[clear pier]

woah dang ok i always tried to get like 70-100 thanks for this

[white prawn]

Normal planetary doesn't normally get THAT extreme, but I try to keep 10-15. Some use just 4 depending on size of planet (Mars)

[clear pier]

okok i see thank you!

[white prawn]

gn

[steep apex]

Can this be Neptune?

It’s more visible at the end

[onyx garnet]

I see absolutely nothing

After over exposing the image I get this
and how would we know this is neptune

• no colour
• small random blob
• could be a star, no one knows

unless you got goto and you slewed to neptune, how would we know

[onyx garnet]

are you goto or untracked?

[steep apex]

Untracked, i was trying to get opinions on this, but with no color, it’s impossible to identify, I thought I saw some blue in the feed so I sent it over but it looks like a total bust

[onyx garnet]

Yep

[hasty hull]

Fresh Jupiter

[sharp ridge]

Jupi!!

[candid flare]

When is Jupiter/Saturn opposition this year?

[sharp ridge]

Late Aug early November

[uncut glade]

Ganymede and io conjunction, Astrospheric promised good seeing. I can’t see my bahtinov diffraction spikes with the wind💀💀💀

Sorry, specifically 5/5 seeing

[somber stratus]

I use about 100 on Jup/Sat

75 on Mars perhaps (at opposition)

[clear pier]

oh i see hmm so is 10-14 better or 100

[somber stratus]

More will inherently be better, up to the limit of the boxes being so small you just get artefacts. I'd say choose an AP size that has the box about 10-20% the diameter of Jupiter, then hit auto-place in AS!3. Should give you around 100.

placed one manually to show the size

[clear pier]

i usually have to make them the smallest size to get 100

[somber stratus]

Yeah, depends on pixel scale. 32 is probably the lowest i'd go

(size)

Then take however many it gives you, even if it's less than 100. It is what is it

[white prawn]

@somber stratus sorry to ping, but I'm puzzled. You're saying "go for more APs." I've been told to "No more than 10-20 APs." My experience has been that when I keep it around that range I get better results. Does the advice depend on equp/size of image?

[somber stratus]

Who said 10-20

It can be 10-20 if you're imaging something tiny

It depends on seeing, image scale and what you're imaging yeah

But then again, do what you find works best for your data

This is just what i do, and find it works well

[sharp ridge]

simply said, use as much/small as possible, but if it starts getting artifacts and shit then make it bigger

[somber stratus]

Yup. If you're oversampled and quite seeing limited, then perhaps larger is better

I only ever use size 32 AP boxes on Ganymede, and tiny Mars

[clear pier]

hmm i never get artifacts and i use like the very smallest size

i think it’s size 16

[white prawn]

@somber stratus so box size depends on a few things, do what looks best. If less looks better then use less. If more brings out more detail w/o artifacts use more.

I suppose that one may need to know their equipment to make a good judgment for at least a starting point.

[somber stratus]

affirm

[clear pier]

i think 16 helps since my planets fit into a 400x400 pixel square

so they’re pretty tiny

[sharp ridge]

most importantly understand what the aps actually do - which is in each tap box hey will stack the sharpest frames then stitch all the results into a completed image, iirc

and doing multipoint helps it stitch better to avoid aritifacts

[clear pier]

ohh i see i see so having more aps helps with that?

[cloud copper]

why do I still have this pattern? I tried all of the bayer patterns and nothing worked :/ what should I do ?

[heavy mirage]

Quick shot of Uranus in IR610 with Uranus-C aaaa

[somber stratus]

😋

[somber stratus]

610 🐐

[heavy mirage]

Yessir!

[proud mulch]

That emoji with Uranus doesn’t work at all.

[white prawn]

Your explanation is actually quite solid, thank you. I never really quite understood but that sorts it out.

That said, I will say that it's a good laugh when you have an image that stacks best and is most clear with 1 AP. Did that once w/ a moon crater. 2 APs split the image in half, more introduced hash marks, so I just did one. Clear as a bell nearly.

[fading plume]

mercury

with surface detail. top and bottom dark patches

[eternal solstice]

the ice giant has become a fire giant.

[proud mulch]

It ate Taco Bell

[eternal solstice]

nah, it would then be a dark brown

[proud mulch]

Soon to go supernova

[proud mulch]

Red hot sauce

[eternal solstice]

yea, then it might turn into dark brown

probably ur anus gonna blow up the toilet

@proud mulch

[proud mulch]

I just ate 150k scoville hot wings as a challenge

[eternal solstice]

then uranus is definatly gonna blow up the toilet,

but why would uranus do that???

[proud mulch]

Uranus

[hasty hull]

https://tenor.com/view/help-help-me-helllppp-gif-466082128477214348

[eternal solstice]

the volume dont work

man

i really need to go

[cloud copper]

my firs image with my new planetary cam.
-seben 150/1400
-ceres-c player one
-GSO 2.5x barlow
-player one ur ir cut filter

[proud mulch]

Tbh I think it’s possible to get a photo of an exoplanet with an amateur telescope

[hasty hull]

stars are thousands of times brighter than their planets, no way you would be able to image something that faint only a few arcseconds away at most

[proud mulch]

If you cover the star and use lots of time, it’s possible

I can’t tho

Untracked moment

[hasty hull]

the area around the star would still have it's glare though

i dont think coronagraphs for direct imaging would work without adaptive optics unless i am mistaken

[proud mulch]

I mean if you perform background extraction you can get something

Or use other spectrums like IR

[near quiver]

you are wrong

plain and simple

maybe you could detect an exoplanet passing in front of a star but imaging it directly? no way in hell

[proud mulch]

Coconuts-2B

It has an orbital period of 1 million years

[uncut glade]

Detection is possible, Exoclock is amateurs doing just that. Hot Jupiters in front of mag12 stars are super easy to detect

I'm part of the program, but have yet to get a full transit :(

[proud mulch]

Hmm

[near quiver]

bro detecting pluto is barely possible

[proud mulch]

But I believe that people will find a way to get those planets directly

It will be a while

Tho

[near quiver]

the brightest exoplanets will be orders of magnitude dimmer

[uncut glade]

Would require ~0.1 arcseconds per pixel, a coronagraph, precision guiding, and hours of integration time during elite seeing

[near quiver]

no. almost certainly diffraction limited or something else making it impossible

[proud mulch]

Ok

[near quiver]

yeah seeing is a great point

[proud mulch]

True

[near quiver]

the angular seperation would be so small that it would be impossible to seperate it from the parent star

[proud mulch]

You’d have to go to canaries of my Everest or wherever

[near quiver]

and use your 20m focal length scope

[uncut glade]

#older_system_pics message

[proud mulch]

Fine. A distant planet like 0.5” and above away

[uncut glade]

Thread showing Subaru telescope's results

[proud mulch]

Very good

[uncut glade]

Planet in that image is ~0.5" away, magnitude is tiny

[near quiver]

yeah but i wouldnt exactly call that an amateur telescope

[uncut glade]

Absolutely lol, was just showing as a demonstration that there are systems with the needed separation

Insanely difficult at best, neurosis inducing is more likely

[near quiver]

not exactly sure where the limit lies of an amateur telescope but i would say a few reasonable requirements are that it should be possible to operate with just one person, and is not funded by a government

[proud mulch]

If Celestron releases A C20, it will happen

[uncut glade]

Or just get a CDK lol

[proud mulch]

It just has to be buyable by a random dude

[uncut glade]

No grants, personally funded, not for financial gain. Basic requirements for amateur work to qualify

[near quiver]

at least one part of it is red

[proud mulch]

Astrobackyard has monetized vids so he shouldn’t count

[near quiver]

i mean i would say hes probably just filming something he would be doing anyway

[uncut glade]

Its a fine line, who cares tbh. I just want to see someone do it from a place normal people can go to

[proud mulch]

Yeah

[uncut glade]

As long as I don't need clearance or sign a waiver to visit the location, I'll count it lmao

[near quiver]

i mean i think defining it is kind of hard, but its usually very clear and obvious if something is an amateur telescope

[proud mulch]

I cannot wait for the day that someone is able to resolve a photo of one with an amateur scope, although that day is far ahead of us

[near quiver]

im gonna do it with my phone camera

[uncut glade]

My prediction, 10 years out for a probable detection. 12 for definitive.

[near quiver]

ill fake it

[proud mulch]

My only idea is that we would need something kinda like the bat, but with a big army of C14s and Uranus-C

[near quiver]

now that ive said this, if i am the first person to resolve an exoplanet, it will be instantly dismissed

[uncut glade]

3 hour bobby broccoli video incoming

[proud mulch]

In the canaries

[proud mulch]

Send the raw tiff files

[near quiver]

uhh no you would need much better gear than that

[proud mulch]

An army of them I said

[near quiver]

an army of them isnt going to make your resolution any better

[uncut glade]

C14 inteferometry array 💀

[proud mulch]

It’s gonna pull a VLT and do interferometry

200m SCT farm 💀

[uncut glade]

Dream setup, its one of those solar fields but just C14s lined up

[proud mulch]

I wonder how that would look

No more need to wonder

[uncut glade]

https://arxiv.org/abs/2112.04678

There has been a single, amateur detection at 37". No standard system has been observed.

Even that was with the Keck telescope, no amateur telescope

[steep apex]

You guys like my quality graph

[cloud copper]

Guys, how can I make pipp reject the frames where jupiter is just half visible

[proud mulch]

Min object size

[proud mulch]

The message I just sent

[cloud copper]

this?

@proud mulch (sry for ping)

[proud mulch]

Yes

I’m on do not disturb

[eternal solstice]

LOWSPEC

You are the man for planetary with phone

So

What should I do

I am gonna try Saturn

I do not have a GOTO or a tracking mount

[onyx garnet]

ngl no tracking is still fine

it's alright to let it drift across the frame and readjust rq

[eternal solstice]

Is there a app that will help me?

[eternal solstice]

Ah alright.

[onyx garnet]

what's your phone model?

[onyx garnet]

if you're a samsung user the camera pro video mode works fine

iphone, i'm not too sure

pretty sure lowspec uses an iphone

[eternal solstice]

iPhone

[onyx garnet]

lowspec da man you need

[eternal solstice]

Yes but he offline

@proud mulch I need you man

Help a brother out

[onyx garnet]

f for the brother in need

[eternal solstice]

Brother in need already does not get a lot of clear skys.

[onyx garnet]

same my brother

[vestal prism]

Do the new optolong 850 filters look good

[random pecan]

jupiter under ir pass + 80a

not sure what it really did but i was experimenting

[proud mulch]

Shoot videos

Shoot 20-30 second videos that are fully zoomed in

The digitial zoom will undo some compression

[eternal solstice]

fully? hm, i think that will be hard, i do not have that adapter yet

that you can attatch to your scope

[proud mulch]

It’s 15 bucks get a random one off Amazon or whatever

[eternal solstice]

yea, should buy that xd

but with hand i have gotten some succes

[eternal solstice]

can i take more, 20 sec videos?

my phone can also shoot raw

[proud mulch]

On second thought I should’ve had a min and max standard

Uhh send your best photo of Jupiter

[eternal solstice]

uhmmmmmmmmmmmmm uhhhhh

[eternal solstice]

single photo

the moons you can see

[main flume]

nice moons

[eternal solstice]

oh thank you! i hope i can take a actual video today and process it

man than will be very cool

ill be using raw and 4 k 60 frames per second?

is that good enough?

about 20 sec video

[main flume]

[eternal solstice]

alrighty, cant wait!!!

you are dutch right? is it saying that it is going to be clear?

my weather app says so

can anyobdy reccomend me a software i can use?

[proud mulch]

Zoomed in

And take multiple to make sure you are good

[eternal solstice]

alright, so multible 20 sec video with zoomed in

[proud mulch]

Yes

[eternal solstice]

what will happen if i dont use zoom in, i mean i will try

[proud mulch]

Compression and more space wasted on the file

Because less space of it is Jupiter

[nova delta]

Iphone's zoom is digital, isn't it?

[proud mulch]

It’s optical zoom is in increments

2.4 is digital from 1 but 2.5 is optical

[nova delta]

[eternal solstice]

ill be shooting saturn

[eternal solstice]

in my case 3 x

[near quiver]

man ive lost my title as the phone planetary guy :(

[proud mulch]

Ok but remember, iPhone thinks it’s right all the time so expect issues with the optical zooms switching between each other

[proud mulch]

L

I kinda did too because I stopped using phone

[near quiver]

the zoom depends on what model you have, where it says "1x" on the bottom, just click it and it will switch between the optical zoom settings

but dont go any further than that, just makes it harder to track

[proud mulch]

I would say this

[near quiver]

i would also suggest using the app fotogear, its free and it gives you full control over exposure and iso

[proud mulch]

If you have iPhone 11, 3x zoom

If you have iPhone 12 and higher, 2.4, or max optical zoom if you use manual camera app

[near quiver]

I believe this was my best Jupiter with my iPhone X

very poorly processed but unfortunately i dont have the data anymore

[tidal crow]

Do you have a camera?

[eternal solstice]

Alright, so 2.4

[near quiver]

Now I do yeah

[eternal solstice]

This was like the stabelist I could get

4K 60 fps

Now I hope I am able to do that with a 3x

3x because I am getting result with 3x than 2.4x

But thank you for the help @near quiver and @proud mulch

[near quiver]

Yep

[random pecan]

getting closed to done

[main flume]

i'm no dutch bro

lol

[eternal solstice]

Oh. Must be confusing you for someone else

[main flume]

lol

[near quiver]

I don’t remember the name of the tool, de haze or something? Don’t think it will improve the technical details much but it might be aesthetically a bit better

[random pecan]

Yeah it’s just a quick edit

I had to run to a doctors appointment

[random pecan]

Left is the most recent and right is my first Saturn

I’m happy because I got more of the clouds

Gonna re edit the left one soon though as I think it can be even better

[bleak sierra]

nicely done! post to #older_system_pics 🙂

[proud mulch]

@hasty hull do you have any tips for shooting tiangong, I just wanna know so I don’t mess up like last time

[hasty hull]

Same setting as iss, 0.2ms with low-mid gain

It’s smaller than iss but moves at a similar speed in the sky i’d say

Looks like some kind of ai sharpening

Kills real detail and adds things that aren’t in the actual data

[proud mulch]

I’m assuming I can kinda focus on Jupiter as it’s similar brightness and stuff?

[hasty hull]

Eh, I’d leave it on the dim side

But yeah focus will be the same

[random pecan]

That’s sick but it’s a little too denoise

[somber stratus]

AI denoise?

East ring got butchered 😆

[coarse aspen]

Hey I have collimation questions for the Planetary imagers here

For planetary, how much does the secondary mirror affect the image?

I got my primary mirror pretty much perfect with a collimation cap, and my secondary is really close

Would making the secondary perfect improve the sharpness of the planet?

From what I've seen, in DSO at least, the only consequence of having the secondary slightly off is that the diffraction spikes won't be equal exactly. I didn't notice any harm to sharpness

Stars are round and such.

[proud mulch]

i mean it has a visible effect

in these 2 you can see the gibbous venus has small collimation errors

[coarse aspen]

So lets say all of the primary mirror's light is being reflected by the secondary, but not all mirror clips are visible. Not quite concentric

And the primary mirror is collimated

Hows that going to harm the planet?

In theory it shouldn't at all

[random pecan]

Lmao I don’t think the kink is supposed to be there

[random pecan]

I posted it

Just a question what do you really good planetary photographers use for denoise?

[sharp ridge]

Astrosurface

[random pecan]

how would you explain your process steps

pipp -> autostakkert -> registax -> astrosurface?

[candid flare]

Su ure

[random pecan]

huh

[hasty hull]

I think Regi is skipped, astrosurface kinda replaces it

[random pecan]

i like regi a little more than astrosurface tbh

atleast for the initial wavelets

but i havent really gotten used to astrosurface that much yet

[steep apex]

Double pass

[green pebble]

Wait, that was tiangong

So i watched the ISS and tiangong at the same time

[vestal prism]

That would be crazy

Probably at some point at some location

[green pebble]

I watched the transit once

[steep apex]

Most likely a star tried getting Neptune

[proud mulch]

Imagine they had a conjunction

Where is this

[green pebble]

I have seen a conjuction between iss and tiangong

[proud mulch]

Why u no telescope 😭

[random pecan]

Ayuhhhhhh

Surprised with how much cloud detail I got out of this

[green pebble]

Huh?

[proud mulch]

Take photo with tescop

[random pecan]

Si

Id love to see that though

But that’d be a hard challenge

Getting good seeing and seeing a conjugation

[proud mulch]

Point telescope at where it will happen and wait

[random pecan]

i mean yeah but seeing

im talking about a good looking conjugation

[proud mulch]

Ok … so?

[random pecan]

idk i'd just like to see it

especially if damian peach or tom takes it

or lucca or ken

pretty much just any really good planetary photography

[green pebble]

Yeh but the conjuction is rare between those two

[proud mulch]

It’s not that hard to get a good snap of it

After all you saw what I got with a literal phone

[random pecan]

I mean yeah but a GREAT snap

It’s one thing to have a good image another to have a great

One that you could stare at for hours

I mean most of the solar system pics channels images are good

Like there’s nothing wrong but for everything to go perfectly right makes it great

[proud mulch]

@hasty hull i have a project planned and im just asking 2 things, do you want to join it and whats your timezone?

[hasty hull]

What is it, and I’m est

[proud mulch]

jupiter collab

we all get up at a similar time, if the weather holds for all of us, we shoot and collect multiple times the data

[white prawn]

Not sure if this may create a challenge - Jupiter's day is 10 hours so unless everyone is down to the minute there's a potential to capture rotation in the images.

[steep apex]

How many arc secs across is ina?

[steep apex]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1124173514585423973 Jupiters cloud belts shifting project

[proud mulch]

not just that

doing a quick attempt at heavy data collection

i might also do something else

Ill have a UTC schedule, and people go off that and use it

[hasty hull]

About 1

[hasty hull]

Interesting, yeah sure I’ll help if I can

[proud mulch]

uhh 26th morning

which is this next morning

[hasty hull]

What time zone are you in

[proud mulch]

with 11:25 PM for me Rn

[hasty hull]

oh same

[proud mulch]

ok good

Ima wake up 3AM and be out imaging (join vc if u up)

[hasty hull]

Aight

[proud mulch]

speak easy

[hasty hull]

I’ll be up all night anyway, I’ll join around then

[proud mulch]

if im not there 4:00 AM im probs sleeping

[hasty hull]

Fair

[proud mulch]

because this fan is loud lol

oh btw what capturing software u got?

[hasty hull]

Sharpcap

[sharp ridge]

[proud mulch]

wha

[hasty hull]

Old

[proud mulch]

ok i use firecapture so i hope the settings can be the same

[hasty hull]

Yeah I think ima get firecap soon, more useful stuff and just looks cooler in general

[proud mulch]

ok

may as well do it now lol

[sharp ridge]

Change it NOW

[hasty hull]

rah

[proud mulch]

i was able to get it working in an hour

[hasty hull]

too busy watching Jerma

[proud mulch]

ever heard of picture in picture

you can do both at the same time

also ima do tiangong at 5AM because

gn ill see you slightly later in the night

[hasty hull]

Gn

[proud mulch]

Also ping me at 3 because I be forgetting

[hasty hull]

Aight

Btw Jupiter only reaches an altitude I can shoot at around 3:30

Horrendous treeline goes up to like 29deg

[tidal crow]

holy

[near quiver]

lol I can’t image any part of the mw core because of trees

[tidal crow]

Thats a big treeline

[hasty hull]

ap in the woods 🔥

[tidal crow]

I mean cygnus is up for me thats good

[hasty hull]

same mostly

[near quiver]

Cygnus goes to zenith now, pretty much everyone has Cygnus

[hasty hull]

can see Eagle and Omega neb when they’re in between some trees

[tidal crow]

Skinwalker habitat

[tidal crow]

Yeah

[near quiver]

I mean luckily Cygnus has most of the good targets this season

[hasty hull]

real

bears and coyotes live out here

deer ofc too

[white prawn]

That's why I pointed at Sadr.

[near quiver]

Yeah it’s understandable but that is a surprisingly dim target

[hasty hull]

not bad 🔥

[proud mulch]

@hasty hull I’m up

[hasty hull]

Aight,still like 20 mins till Jup rises high enough so I’ll join then

Processing this Saturn data in the meantime

yummy

[proud mulch]

Ok

[hasty hull]

@proud mulch I’m ready btw

[proud mulch]

@hasty hull what settings for tiangong

[hasty hull]

Something like 0.2ms, mid gain

[steep apex]

@proud mulch goodluck

[proud mulch]

Can u join to confirm

Should I use a red filter?

Good luck to me

@hasty hull good settings?

[hasty hull]

Looks good to me, that’s how I’d have it

[hasty hull]

Yeah probably, helps with ISS so probably a good idea for this too

[proud mulch]

Ok this is weird tho

[proud mulch]

Welp

I have no other choice now

[hasty hull]

Huh weird

[proud mulch]

Tiangong is gonna be out any second now

[hasty hull]

Good luck

Btw i went back out and seeing was atrocious, gave it like 15 mins and it never improved again

So i think I’m gonna try and get some sleep, lmk how it goes

[proud mulch]

Got it

I think

[proud mulch]

Ok

You get the photos first

[onyx garnet]

le epic

[proud mulch]

Even if they suck

[proud mulch]

@hasty hull

[eternal solstice]

Yea, I about the videos I made, all crap, nothing good

Only blurry

Blob

[proud mulch]

expect that from a phone camera

[eternal solstice]

But. Sooo it is usable for processing????

[green pebble]

Meh, i would say so

[green pebble]

Bro u cooking sum fr

[hasty hull]

Very nice very nice, i guess you’ll have to lower gain for your setup but that’s great for your first attempt

[proud mulch]

And use a red filter lol

[eternal solstice]

great

[eternal solstice]

can i see a non edited raw video that you used when you still photographed using a phone?

[proud mulch]

Ok then

#1126189855383236618 message

Uhh just jump to message for both

[eternal solstice]

alright, i dont think i will even get the ring from saturn seperation on my photo, will need to wait till i get that adapter

[proud mulch]

And a camera

[eternal solstice]

well that is a bit more than wait a second, how much does a camera cost?

[proud mulch]

mine was 270$

but you can get a mars-C for like 220

[eternal solstice]

there are like a whole planet series? XD. but ill look into it

[proud mulch]

wait for the jupiter- C

[clear pier]

is that actually being made

[eternal solstice]

or the Earth-c

Merquery-c venus-c

[proud mulch]

saturn C is so im confident jupiter C will

[fading plume]

They already have the Poseidon. Why would they need the Jupiter? Unless they make a ff camera

[proud mulch]

super duper timy pixel size

[fading plume]

Perhaps. But I don’t think anyone makes a sensor like that.

[proud mulch]

they could make one lol

[fading plume]

I will eat my hat if player one makes their own silicon

Sony will perhaps release more starvis 1 sensors

[clear pier]

lmao well the saturn’s been around for a long time

[coarse aspen]

saturn C is just uncooled 533

dunno how they can call that a planetary camera

its not

lunar sure

[proud mulch]

Yeah uhh my next scope could be the XT10 or XT12

[random pecan]

Explore scientific 10” truss

[proud mulch]

Ok

[candid flare]

where do you download pipp

cann fnund websue

[candid flare]

nvm found it

[random pecan]

Love it when sites don’t have their download stuff sorted properly so it’s 2 broken links and one working one

It’s like a little guessing game

[clear pier]

i got the shadow of io on the grs it looks so cool im gonna try winjupos for the first time

an ss from registax, 5% from one of my 2 min captures

[clear pier]

wait so on jupiter i only got a less than 1 minute video on accident, do i still include that to winjupos or is it not worth it?

[green pebble]

Hmm, not sure, you can try if you want to

[heavy mirage]

with a single 1 minute video wj wont be of much use. It is mostly meant for when you have multiple photos/videos, and essentially allows more data to be stacked by taking the planets rotation into account. I'm not exactly sure, but I believe it works by projecting images to a sphere and blending them together

[clear pier]

oh no no i mean i have 6 videos, 5 are all 2 minutes, and one is accidentally 1 minute, do i still stack and sharpen the 1 minute video and include that with wj?

[heavy mirage]

Ah I see, well that one is up to you. It wouldn't hurt, as long as the quality of the stack is not too different from the others

[clear pier]

ok thank you!

[clear pier]

well when i used winjupos i got a much worse quality image than any of my singles which was very weird

[heavy mirage]

@clear pier You have have ensure that the images you derotate are aligned correctly with the corresponding time in the image measurements. Also, enable LD compensation with a value of 0.65 or so, this will help reduce artifacts at the limb

When derotating, typically you'd want to use just the stacked frames with just wavelets, no denoise, no color corrections. Just sharpened stacks. Color corrections and final sharpening and denoise are done on the derotated image

[clear pier]

yes i used the fc timings, i’ll try the ld compensation thank you and i did denoise and color correct so i think that was an issue then, how sharpened should the stacks be?

[heavy mirage]

Tbh I am still trying to work how much to sharpen myself. You just have to experiment and use what works best for you. You don't want to cook the images you're going to derotate because that would result in more noise and artifacts, typically just a light to medium sharpening

Maybe something like this

Essentially what you wanna do with the sharpening before wj is get rid of the "blur"

[barren dune]

@somber stratus ive heared d.peach say this on a lecture I didnt know I used so much aps ive been going by the under 20 rule for jup and sat

[somber stratus]

Truth be known i've tried 4 to 4000 and it makes minimal difference.

I just go somewhere inbetween

[barren dune]

Yeah ive been trying to get my lunar and planetary processing style dialed in. Trying to keep them soft but sharp

[proud mulch]

Little tip, in registax try to avoid layer 1

And 2

[somber stratus]

Layer 1 & 2 are the finest detail sliders, which you want to keep ideally if you plan to derotate

Otherwise you’re just sharpening large scale features and limiting your resolve

[heavy mirage]

Yes, usually the best especially when seeing is really good

[clear pier]

which one of those 2 do i go for?

[heavy mirage]

the first image is just the raw stack, the second is sharpened. It might be better to go a bit softer on the sharpening than what I sent in the sc

[clear pier]

hmm i see i see

the thing is when i sharpen i get hella chromatic abberation

like it's terrible do i still stick with it?

[white prawn]

Where is the CA coming from?

[clear pier]

i have no clue

here is a raw stack

[white prawn]

Hmm

[clear pier]

crappy barlow?

[white prawn]

Good news ... the CA isn't as bad as what it is before, I was comparing to a couple of images you took earlier.

[clear pier]

yea lmao it was terrible earlier

this was the best i could get it earlier

the rings are literally rainbow

im mainly just asking if the ca is ok for winjupos

[white prawn]

Little bit of RGB Balance/Align ...

[clear pier]

yea i know about that, but jerrymeister said to not do any of that for winjupos and only do that after

so i was wondering if the ca is ok for winjupos

[white prawn]

That one I don't have an answer.

Try it? 🤷‍♂️

[clear pier]

well thanks anyway

[white prawn]

I don't use Winjupos, so I don't have any experience with it. I would expect that the program would do something about CA, however ... refer back to what I said about not using it. 🙂

[clear pier]

right well i just wanna try it and see if i can get better results out of mainly jupiter im just doing a test run on saturn

[clear pier]

raw vs sharpened is it good enough do you think?

[heavy mirage]

Definitely do RGB alignment, it would help reduce the red/blue fringing

looks good otherwise, might be able to push it a bit more

Here's your sharpened image with RGB alignment in AstroSurface, Registax will do it as well but AstroSurface is a bit more precise imo

[proud mulch]

Sry for ghost ping Willaf

[clear pier]

ok ok thank you! is astrosurface free? i might try it

[white prawn]

It is

[coarse aspen]

is an EAF useful at all for planetary

[random pecan]

Idk if I like this one

At work and I edited it slightly while at work

[proud mulch]

Very nice

The plane of our solar system right here

[proud mulch]

Way back machine

[ruby tartan]

I collimated the telescope with a collimation lens and it still doesn't focus

💀 💀

Does anyone have any idea how to resolve?

[heavy mirage]

https://youtu.be/8ROvNH5uwDo

[summer field]

you can try a star test to see what is wrong and align the primary directly on a star

[steep apex]

@sharp ridge sorry to bother you but do you think I got ina?

There’s a part where it separates

Not exactly where I put the pointers to be but I think it’s there

[sharp ridge]

i say you have

[green pebble]

Watch the new Astrobiscuits video about collimating a newt

[ruby tartan]

Bruh, I've been using Newtonians for 3 years and I don't know how to collimate correctly

[onyx garnet]

Bruh the raw video alone is amazing to me

[proud mulch]

I personally just use star collimation

[sharp ridge]

easier said then done when youre using a dob taller than you

[safe compass]

Easier said then done when you forgot to buy a Cheshire cap after having bought a collimation cap..

[sharp ridge]

I never use my cheshire now , laser much easier

[safe compass]

And the screws for both secondary and primary mirrors are so tightened that they physically cannot move

[safe compass]

KEK but it's frowned so much upon because lasers themselves need collimating, is that easy?

[ruby tartan]

Exactly, with the equatorial platform he reached 2 meters

Seeing last night sucks

[ruby tartan]

💀

[main flume]

is that the shadow of the saturns moon?

[sharp ridge]

[ruby tartan]

👍

[sharp ridge]

Peach Emote

🍑

[ruby tartan]

[green pebble]

Im using my newtonian for 4 months and i learned to collimate it in 2 days

[ruby tartan]

The larger the telescope, the more difficult collimation is.

[green pebble]

Its a 130/900 skywatcher

[ruby tartan]

Mine is a GSO 12"💀

I don't even want to think about the difficulty that Tom and Ken have

[green pebble]

😵‍💫

Crazy, i was crazy once, they locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, rats makes me crazy....

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.

[green pebble]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy

[safe compass]

Crazy?

[green pebble]

I was crazy once.

[safe compass]

They locked me in a room.

[green pebble]

A rubber room.

[safe compass]

A rubber room with rats.

[green pebble]

And rats make me crazy.

[safe compass]

Crazy?

[green pebble]

No stop im going crazy

[safe compass]

They locked me in a room

[green pebble]

A rubber room

[eternal solstice]

what the ...... @green pebble and @safe compass

[steep apex]

What happened

[eternal solstice]

idk

somethin

for a second i actually thought @safe compass was scared of rats

[coarse aspen]

No

He's saying the rats made him crazy

wait

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room. A rubber room with rats. The rats made me crazy

alright no more

[steep apex]

This is planetary imaging

Mare Humorum, one of my sharpest images, 4.5” Newtonian Reflector, 3x Barlow + 15mm eyepiece, iPhone 14

[nova delta]

I bought my scope ~9 months still don’t know how to collimate both mirrors

[proud mulch]

Screws and Alan keys

[nova delta]

I only took 2 serious pictures with it 🥹

[proud mulch]

Bro what

[nova delta]

It’s not about the equipment, it’s about being too lazy to learn to

[random pecan]

what could i do to improve this image

[heavy mirage]

I would make it brighter, stretch to around 90% histogram and add contrast/saturation as needed

[green pebble]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[green pebble]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[green pebble]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[green pebble]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[eternal solstice]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room. A rubber room with rats. The rats made me crazy

oh he!! naw

you made me do the same

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room, a rubber room. A rubber room with rats. The rats made me crazy

oh help me someone

[tidal crow]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[steep apex]

This place is turning into a not Planetary Imaging Forum

[tidal crow]

This is crazy

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[steep apex]

We need images

Someone post

[tidal crow]

We need for someone to post something crazy

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[steep apex]

No

[ebon sage]

tf happened here 💀

[steep apex]

It was one time, then it multiplied

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[tidal crow]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[lean hearth]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[tidal crow]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[fading plume]

/flush

[tidal crow]

Crazy

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy

[livid sierra]

Glad I stopped talking here…

[sharp ridge]

[fading plume]

Rule 5…………………..

[tidal crow]

fine you won

[somber stratus]

Where is Enzmann's obsy again?

[eternal solstice]

I have come to the rescue

Here

Some moon and 1”guess the planet”

[tidal crow]

The "guess the planet" its saturn

[eternal solstice]

And that is

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19491841

[green pebble]

Crazy?

I was crazy once.

They locked me in a hangar

A rubber hangar

A rubber hangar with migs

And migs make me crazy

[random pecan]

I’m finished finally

Not too bad for a 6”

[tidal crow]

We need you if you are still not in

[tidal crow]

#1124173514585423973 Join us plz we need more people like this

[proud mulch]

We gonna need some Australians and Europeans soon

[green pebble]

Should we ask in #older_system_pics ?

For more people

[tidal crow]

Sure

I will promote in general

[green pebble]

I will try and promote in solar system pics

[clear pier]

??? 6 inch what the crap that’s insanely good what’s your setup?

[ruby tartan]

I don't know

[random pecan]

6se alt az se mount, mars-c, x-cel Barlow

[topaz elk]

whats that word for when jupiter's moon starts to transit

it means like the beginning of entering or something but i forgot

[clear pier]

well wow man that looks so good and with a mars c that’s great, what mag is the barlow?

[random pecan]

Just 2x

Thank you!

[heavy mirage]

Lol ikr dumb spam

[green pebble]

Its for the memes

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.

[green pebble]

No

Stop

You're making me crazy

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.

[green pebble]

Stop

[thick heron]

💀

[safe compass]

Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me crazy.

[hasty hull]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

[proud mulch]

Cursed solar system part 2

[eternal solstice]

Oh go what is… that is really cool

[proud mulch]

Imagine living on Jupiter and seeing this fr 😮‍💨

[green pebble]

Wth is that?!?!

[mental void]

Swiss cheese

[green pebble]

I adore cheese, gib it to meh

I would die for cheese

[proud mulch]

A mega eclipse

[eternal solstice]

nah, that would be litteraly impossible, or, hm, idk. maybe once in a 1000 years or smth, but there definetly are tens of mini solar eclipses hapening.

which you would not notice with the unaided eye but you would notice it with a telescope

[cursive inlet]

Anyone know where I could find a color accurate Mars image? Everywhere I look, even Hubble images seem to have different color pallets all the time.

I’ve been reprocessing some old data and I wanna have the color be as accurate as possible.

[near quiver]

Hmm that is a good point, not sure what the most accurate color for mars is

[near quiver]

Maybe try to match the colors to images from landers?

[cursive inlet]

Found this from nasa but I’d assume the color from space is a little different.

In the imaging forums its always either an orange-red or a pinkish-red pallet

I’d assume orange-red is more acurate

[near quiver]

Yeah I would think so too

[sharp ridge]

The reason why most Mars images aren't natural color is because natural color looks really dull

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/570687129118703637/1129089420432257064/image.png
Tom image

[thick heron]

I recall the polar caps looking yellow-ish visually.

[cursive inlet]

Old:

vs

New:

What do yall think?

[coarse aspen]

The old is more color accurate I believe, but the new looks better

[cursive inlet]

Final version, little more orange and derinded

[safe compass]

Jesus Christ that's the best Mars I've seen so far

[cursive inlet]

Then you haven’t seen much 😂

[safe compass]

Umm...

I've not been on much, but this is the best one I've seen from earth so far

[high hull]

hammer, a solid smack will collimate it

[green pebble]

Bagaghahaahgaga, the way i destroyed my scope

[somber stratus]

Best way is to get the image up on your laptop, and process it whilst looking through the eyepiece at the actual thing

[sharp ridge]

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/868758-barlow-which-one-is-better/
https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/885643-5x-rule/#entry12846237
being entertained by this silly guy challenging the barlows

[heavy mirage]

My best seeing so far this year

[uncut glade]

What aperture are you using there? Insane signal for opposition so far out

[cursive inlet]

10”

[somber stratus]

Oppo is less than a month away 🤔

[heavy mirage]

Yes 10" at 5400mm

[fading plume]

The bean, very skinny.

[somber stratus]

Why do you use sharpcap btw?

just preference ig

[heavy mirage]

I'm just used to it. Also it has livestacking for deepsky and a bunch of other 'hidden' features

Just recently found out about feature tracking, which keeps the object in the center of the fov like firecap

Not really sure if there are any advantages

[random pecan]

I’ve heard firecapture gets higher fps

But I use sharpcap also, just because it’s what I’m used to

[uncut glade]

Oh whoa i mixed up jupiter and saturn 😆

[random pecan]

I got a new laptop for university so I’m gonna try to use firecapture on it tonight and image saturn

Average seeing with average transparency

Clear enough though

[steep apex]

For shooting planetary with an astrocamera, 2x barlow or 3x barlow? My telescope is 900mm in focal length, I've seen people use 2x more than 3x barlows

[heavy mirage]

It depends on your scope size, pixel size and seeing. Generally you want your focal length to be 5-7x pixel size of your camera. For example asi178 has 2.4um pixel size, so your focal length should ideally be between f/12 and f/17. Sometimes you may be able to oversample and go up to f/20+, when the seeing is near perfect

[fading plume]

spiky

[green pebble]

Spiky cosmic beanzzzzz

[proud mulch]

Crazy, i was crazy once, they locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, rats makes me crazy....

[main flume]

noice

[green pebble]

Crazy? I was crazy once, they locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats makes me crazy... (I better stop because im on my last warning, if i get that one warning im banned from this server)

[ripe shard]

What did you get a warning for

[coarse aspen]

stop

[green pebble]

Ummm, i had a text in my profile that says im hom0phobic and r@cist

Racist, nahhh it was for a joke

[ripe shard]

Oh

[coarse aspen]

that doesnt matter

[green pebble]

Homophobic, kinda. I dont like lgbtq

[ripe shard]

Well, thats your opinion, and noone can mess with it.

[hasty hull]

get outta here wit dat

[coarse aspen]

you're not making it any better my guy stop

[green pebble]

Yeah i know i changed it

Mods warned me so im being carefull

[green pebble]

Yeh but its the rules

I guess i dont have freedom of speech

[random pecan]

no more

[green pebble]

Ok i stopped

[coarse aspen]

please stop

[green pebble]

@proud mulch started it

[hasty hull]

when the speech is hateful no you can’t do that lmao

[green pebble]

Ok bye then

[random pecan]

still doesnt make it any better