Planetary Imaging

[sharp ridge]

yes

[lean hearth]

what planetary camera?

[sharp ridge]

uranus-c

[lean hearth]

That was the 1 I was thinking of buying

it’s a nice one and isn’t to crazy costly either

[sharp ridge]

Im also considering the hubble ul16 with a triangulum astro eq base - only 60lbs for the scope, though still planned on the skywatcher

[fading plume]

just imaged mars. feels off from stellarium?

also mars has rings confirmed

[sharp ridge]

its always off, that region partically trippy

[lean hearth]

sometimes Stellarium might not always be 100% accurate

[fading plume]

so how do i get accurate ones?

[cursive inlet]

Yeah but I have noticed that the mobile version of stellarium is spot on

[sharp ridge]

get pic du midi mars and input into winjupos

or make your own ig

[fading plume]

oh no complicated planetary stuff

[cursive inlet]

@fading plume what rig you use for planetary?

[fading plume]

8" dob with uranus C

[cursive inlet]

Nice

[fading plume]

and epic seeing

[cursive inlet]

8” dob gang 💪

[lean hearth]

Uranus c and 16” dog would be a healthy planetary rig

[fading plume]

best seeing

[cursive inlet]

💀

[fading plume]

not from tonight

gotta make one for tonight

[cursive inlet]

I haven’t been very lucky with mars this opposition either

[sharp ridge]

aint great as 2020 opposition was looking underneath but its realistic

[cursive inlet]

What happened to mars

[lean hearth]

Hey @fading plume#585 where is a good place in australia to get the Uranus c as you have one

[fading plume]

player one website

[lean hearth]

Isnt that usd?

[fading plume]

huh

[lean hearth]

Or do they ship internationally

[fading plume]

yes

[lean hearth]

aha

thank you

[sharp ridge]

you can make own map in winjupos as its more accurate than wonke stellarium ones

[cursive inlet]

Thats neat

[onyx garnet]

bro that looks like a deformed apple

[somber stratus]

UL24 💪

[sharp ridge]

i only got ~$4600

[ruby tartan]

UVenus

I will buy an optolong UVenus soon

Image made by Damian Peach using the Pic du Midi, IR and UV, synthetic G

[cloud copper]

Wow, looks realy good!

[somber stratus]

was this Optolong UVenus?

ik it was probably IR685, but unsure of what UV he used here

[ruby tartan]

I also don't know what brand of UV filter he used

[heavy mirage]

How do you make those animations?

[cursive inlet]

What about using a ch4 with Venus?

[ruby tartan]

Different filters, image by Antônio Cidadão

[sharp ridge]

1. Make a map
2. Insert into ephemerides tool "options" tab "Texturing"
3. Go to graphics and click "save image sequence"

[heavy mirage]

Thank you! I'll have to try it out

[barren dune]

@sharp ridge im looking at a HO 18in goto is only 2k why not just get it with goto. I was looking at a 24 but wasnt to sure if im ready for it. The goto systems they sell are very accurate even at high power

The goto option is only 2k*

[somber stratus]

I know a guy who has the 24" goto

i think it's fairly accurate but nothing exceptional

[barren dune]

How are his images

And is it a hubble optics 24 and goto system

[sharp ridge]

I dunno if the HO build and mirror quality is that good

• no satellite tracking

[barren dune]

I could care less abt iss lol

[sharp ridge]

tho damn 60lbs is so much better for me

[sharp ridge]

ISS is where you can get hofs and apods

[barren dune]

Strehl 0.95

Primary

[sharp ridge]

[barren dune]

Simply handtrack the iss at 8500mm fl ofc ken lol

[sharp ridge]

I might go for it then

[sharp ridge]

nah, def goto or eq platform

[barren dune]

Im torn between the 18 and 20

It was a joke

But yeah im getting mine with goto for sure

[sharp ridge]

https://www.triangulumastro.com/
I assume this is only tracking?

[barren dune]

Yeah i was looking at those

They only track not goto

My use of an eq plate so far kinda mid

Def worth it for dob imagers but i want goto so i can find neptune and uranus easy

[sharp ridge]

tru

[barren dune]

Man my lunar imaging with an 18 would be nutty

My seeing is just ughhh

That jup vid is like 9/10

[somber stratus]

yes, and he hasn't really got to testing it yet. He's in Australia so Mars is too low and small to get anything worth while

[somber stratus]

Very short lived moment of good seeing here. Literally just these 3 seconds. Altitude was 30°

[barren dune]

@somber stratus he needs to do lunar

@somber stratus better than my jupos processes lol

[jolly leaf]

IS THAT JOOL???

[thick heron]

Read a lot about the Hubble Optics dobs a few months ago. Haven’t ruled them out yet, but my concern is that their structure is quite spindly and possibly won’t hold collimation well for planetary imaging. The well-loved Obsession UC dobs look more rigid but tend to shift collimation when moving (seen it happen myself on someone’s 18”). At least the HO looks like it has a metal upper cage, which the UCs don’t.

Also add $2000 USD for the goto system and shipping costs (maybe around $750 on average).

[barren dune]

process from toms vid that he sent downloaded ran thru pipp then did my normal workflow I envy you tom

[barren dune]

yeah I knew shipping would be a pain but I mean for an 18in with good tracking its well worth it imo. and are you saying that Hubble optics might hold colli better than obsession. im not trying to wait 4 years for an 18in obsession lol

[thick heron]

Not sure. I think the upper assembly of the Obsession UC not being metal hurts a lot, but it could just be the general lack of structure both have in common.

Visual observers seem happy with both. Not sure how they hold up for imaging.

Haven’t ruled it out yet as a scope I’m interested in. For me it’s partly a question of whether I want to take the chance on a less expensive dob earlier or jump straight to a premium NMT dob later.

[barren dune]

Yeah my gen is all abt instant gratification so im going HO lol. NMT are really beautiful but they take forever to be built and shipped

[thick heron]

No don’t say that it makes me feel old. I’m almost 24.

But neither are really close to instant gratification. The HO website says 2 months, but most reports of delivery times I have seen are 3-12 months with most being around 6.

[barren dune]

I shpuld prob start my order now

Even then its faster than NMT or Obsession

@jolly leaf

[somber stratus]

I mean for both of you, being in Texas, your seeing will support these bigger apertures

worth ordering sooner rather than later if you want to catch the next Jup/Saturn season @barren dune

[barren dune]

Yessirrr

Want to order it asap

[thick heron]

One thing to investigate is how their motors are attached so I can duplicate it with an OnStep system. That could save ~$1800 USD.

[thick heron]

Looks like their SiTech system basically uses a motor pushed against an azimuth lazy susan and a wire for the altitude.

[livid sierra]

Yall crazy mayn

[thick heron]

We all passed that point long ago.

[cursive inlet]

Is an e-focuser a good idea for planetary?

I spend way too much time tinkering the focus knob

[sharp ridge]

If you mean motorized focuser then yeah you can focus without vibrations and do it remotely
but if you want to autofocus like in dso then nah they wont work

also, mars getting smol

[cursive inlet]

Dang

Could using a bahtinov mask on a star be viable for planetary?

[sharp ridge]

Not as good

also you gotta point to a star and back each time you have to refocus

[cursive inlet]

Thats what I do tho for planets except for Jupiter

Focusing on a star is just so much easier

[somber stratus]

tbh no

Seeing makes it kinda useless in most situations.

[thick heron]

Done it both ways, but always go back to electronic. With mono, filters come to focus at different points. Electronic focusers allows you to repeatedly return to those without having to fiddle with the knob every filter change.

With color, less important.

[livid sierra]

Like it goes back to a certain focus point with the push of a button?

[thick heron]

FireCapture moves it when switching filters.

[somber stratus]

Do you use the active tracking thing in FC? @thick heron

i've never used it myself but curious if it's any good

I'm referring to the scope control here.

[thick heron]

Guiding? It’s great!

Make sure to experiment with the reverse settings or it might start moving it away.

[somber stratus]

Interesting. I might have to use it with wifi & synscan app though. Might need some testing

[nocturne zinc]

Random person: how bad seeing do you have? Me: Yes.

[somber stratus]

I use the dynamic ROI thing that moves the ROI with the planet. Uranus-C FOV helps. Can do about 5-10mins without touching controls

But i usually have to hair-dryer every couple recordings anyway so the guiding isn't essential - i'd be next to the scope regardless.

[thick heron]

It can be problematic if the directions are 90 degrees off such as up/down moving left/right.

I have left the scope unattended for hours at a time with it on.

[cloud copper]

Guys what are some good planetary cameras under 200 usd

[somber stratus]

pretty limited

Used 462mc, 224mc

[cloud copper]

Didnt find any of thoes used ://

I live in romania and astrophotography is not that popular on secondhand websites

[cloud copper]

Do you know any other cameras in that price range, I prefer 150 usd but a bit up is fine

[thick heron]

Svbony SV305 uses the IMX290 and is $143. It appears to be a color camera.

Keep in mind it is a USB 2 camera.

[hasty hull]

Yeah I’ve used it and was locked at 23 fps (max res bc I am untracked). It was a huge pain

[fading plume]

Sv305 pro has usb 3

[thick heron]

Pro is $193 USD, so depends on how far @cloud copper is willing to stretch the budget.

[coarse aspen]

might as well get a ceres C or asi224mc at that point

[barren dune]

Shipping for the goto system is only 55

Swank

Total been calculating its looking around 6,379 for my add ons

So overall not bad

[somber stratus]

18"?

[barren dune]

Ahh 870 us shipping brings it to 7,249

Im like a few hrs away from HO at most

I will drive and pick it up myself 🤣

[thick heron]

They ship from China.

[barren dune]

What the actual F-

Frick 👍

Thats why its like 40 to ship to some parts of asia

[thick heron]

Had the same idea when discovering them a few months ago.

[cursive inlet]

Might have a chance to try the w47 on Venus in a few hours

[hasty hull]

Hype

I have one of those I’m pretty sure

Venus is smol rn so I imagine it’ll be hard to get detail currently

[cursive inlet]

Damn I was so exited but clouds stayed on the horizon after sunset

Tomorrow should be clear though

[cursive inlet]

Got some decent looking Mars data, considering its at 9.8" now

[cursive inlet]

Mars last night. 9.6 arcseconds now

And in IR685

Aight ima try Venus again in 30 min. Im hoping to get some detail in UV

[cursive inlet]

Yess ok I have the data

[cursive inlet]

YESSSS

Its minimal but its definently there

white polar regions

[somber stratus]

what UV filter was this

[cursive inlet]

W47 with the IR block

I mean technically its half violet and half uv

but still

Im so happy

I captured color and IR850 too, ima process those later

I mean for the current size of Venus its pretty decent

[proper oyster]

I never tried any filter during all the time i used a telescope idk how big of difference they make and what they do

[somber stratus]

how can it be half UV with an UV/IR block? Or it is a specific IR-block only.

Most IR-cut filters are also UV-cut

[cursive inlet]

The astronomik IR block lets a bit of UV through

its why I bought it

[somber stratus]

interesting, didn't know that

[somber stratus]

what about this as an alternative. Astronomik Luminance filters, but the L-1 variant

allows 370nm+

actually it's near the same

never mind

[cursive inlet]

Doesnt really matter with the W47 tho

it ends at about 385

Also the 462 has a strong sensitivity to IR so there might be some IR leak with L-1

Anyways its almost the same as you said

looks pretty decent for now

[cursive inlet]

color data

[cursive inlet]

very suble detail in IR850

[hasty hull]

Really awesome man great job

What was the altitude?

[cursive inlet]

around 10 degrees

[hasty hull]

Crazy impressive shot

what did the seeing look like

[cursive inlet]

I can send you a vid of the raw color vid

wait maybe I can make a gif or smth

[hasty hull]

Was this with the 8” dob

[cursive inlet]

yeah

[hasty hull]

Epic

Found my stuff, this inspires me to try

@cursive inlet what filter is threaded closer to the cam, w47 or IRcut?

[cursive inlet]

Doesn't matter probably.

I just screw the w47 in first then the ir block

Seeing wasn't very good

adc adjustment is a little off, I was rushing everything bcs I couldnt feel my hands

[fading plume]

How do you go about focusing when stuff is having this bad seeing? Focus on other stars or something?

[cursive inlet]

I focused on Jupiter's moons and then panned over to Venus

[fading plume]

Ah nice. That’s what I’ve been doing but never had good results. Maybe my seeing is just too bad lol

[cursive inlet]

Yeah I always do either Jupiter's moons or a random star. It takes long since I do it in between filter changes but it works pretty well for me.

[somber stratus]

similar to mine back in January

subtle detail on the limb

[cursive inlet]

Working on the IR(g)uv final image, idk if I should use the rgb image for g or the average of the UV and IR

[somber stratus]

try both - won't make much difference. Most people have a SynG = 50% IR, 50% UV

i'd go the synthetic route

as OSC green channel with have 0 details, whereas a 50/50 blend of UV/IR will have at least some detail

[cursive inlet]

true but my rgb stack is the sharpest. The uv and ir stacks have detail but the shape of the planet is a little wonky.

I did the ir850 capture a little late and it has the worst seeing out of the three.

[somber stratus]

Do IR-SynG-UV for the colour. Then turn the OSC (rgb) data to monochrome and use as luminance

best of both

[cursive inlet]

Good idea

[cursive inlet]

Awesome

[onyx garnet]

hey uh did I speak to you that day about my future set up?

[cursive inlet]

Uh yeah I think so

[onyx garnet]

I've noticed that most 685nm planetary pictures are grey scale, but I do wish for coloured photos

Should I just stick with my ir cut?

[cursive inlet]

Wait didnt you want to get a 585?

[onyx garnet]

I do

But does the 685nm make pictures grey scale

[cursive inlet]

Yeah its infrared

Normally you would then use the 685nm shot as luminance for your color shot

[onyx garnet]

Am confused about this. So the end result will still be coloured?

[cursive inlet]

Infrared light is something we can not see, therefore we represent it as grayscale

But in infrared, seeing is better sometimes

these are some of my images from a few months ago

In color the seeing was very bad, but in infrared the seeing was ok and I was able to pull detail

then I combined both into a final image

[onyx garnet]

Oh dayum

So I shoot a vid with ir cut then the 685nm?

[cursive inlet]

yup

you get two images

[onyx garnet]

alr cool, ty

[cursive inlet]

A lot of my images are a combination of a color shot and an infrared shot

Like this one

[onyx garnet]

can you show me an example with Jupiter?

Ah cool

[cursive inlet]

Sometimes it makes the GRS look a little brighter

[onyx garnet]

With my current set up, should I use a 2x or 3x barlow

[cursive inlet]

2x

This is your setup right?

2x gets you good sampling

[onyx garnet]

Yes

[onyx garnet]

Cool

Also I may as well just get a laptop

[onyx garnet]

Could you show me your saturn attempts?

[cursive inlet]

I only really started astro in November and didn't really have a chance to capture Saturn.

[onyx garnet]

Ah damn

Here's mine

Not sure why grey

[sharp ridge]

u planning on an adc?

[onyx garnet]

In the further future, yes. Rn I don't wish to spend all at once

[sharp ridge]

ok

[fading plume]

why is muy stack worse than my single sub

[fading plume]

another frame

[somber stratus]

Jupiter is difficult to integrate IR onto.

Always looks odd

[onyx garnet]

hm

[bitter bough]

Shot the moon tonight with my IR pass filter. Atmosphere was crazy stable in IR

[somber stratus]

What IR filter? Guessing 850nm

Bare in mind you do lose intrinsic resolution if seeing is good, sure you know this tho

[ruby tartan]

Probably ir685, ir850 would have less resolution

[somber stratus]

Depends on the scope. I was mainly looking at the colour. OSC cams are green-heavy (RGGB bayer), so when colour balanced, you have to make it "more purple". Here having pure purple means the bayer matrix is transparent - only occurs >850nm.

IR685 & 610 longpass appear red/muddy brown

[cursive inlet]

Might have a chance to bag Venus again in an hour

[cursive inlet]

Damn clouds

[cursive inlet]

First totally clear night in a while

[livid sierra]

I see a cloud

[cursive inlet]

Shh

[cursive inlet]

Got another batch of Venus data

Decided to sacrifice some fps in uv for higher exposure and less noisy frames

[somber stratus]

how long of an exposure?

[cursive inlet]

Around 17ms

60 fps but AutoStakkert is going to have a much easier time selecting the good frames

Had some trouble stacking the uv last time since AutoStakkert couldn’t really tell which frames were good

[nocturne zinc]

This is my mars with 9.25 evo and Uranus-C camera.

Any tips? Seeing was pretty bad as always...
Used no barlow.

I do have a 2x barlow and I can make it into 1.5x.

Maybe invest in a 685nm?
What more?

[onyx garnet]

A barlow would be helpful.

[livid sierra]

Why would you want to turn the 2x into a 1.5x

[sharp ridge]

focus on the focus, then capture more and stack like 2-5%
actually you may need more magnification, like 3x or adjusting the backfocus of the 2x

[near quiver]

you dont always want more magnification

[livid sierra]

A 1.5x tho

[near quiver]

might be helpful for camera focus

[weary jungle]

My Jupiter and Mars through a C14 and a DSLR any tips

[cursive inlet]

a little oversharpened

[weary jungle]

Yeah that’s what I thought I have a Timelapse as well

I have a dedicated Astro cam the asi 462 but I haven’t been getting great results with it this is still me best so far

Yeah I just think I need a good Barlow because the asi 462 without the Barlow isn’t great and with it it’s lower quality I just think it’s to late quality

[cursive inlet]

Oh sorry didnt read your post correctly

[weary jungle]

No worries

[cursive inlet]

Could you show me an image with the asi 462?

I find it hard to believe a dslr outperformes an asi462

with a pixel size of 2.9um ur not even that far off with the sampling at f/11

[thick heron]

Do you have a UV/IR Cut or Luminance filter for your ASI462?

[weary jungle]

Yes I do have a UV/IR cut filter

[weary jungle]

I will send one in a sec

[cursive inlet]

Some nice uv data yesterday evening

[cursive inlet]

[cursive inlet]

Intersting northern band in IR850

[somber stratus]

Yeah possible that's detail

@cursive inlet would you send the raws over, if you don't mind. Would like to have a go in prep for this season. Yet to get my own data.

[cursive inlet]

Yeah sure

They are a little shaky tho

do you want the pipp processed?

[somber stratus]

My Baader Bessel-U is awaiting first light - will be interesting to see how it compares.

Yeah just raw stacks, tiffs

wanna play with bi-colour stuff

[cursive inlet]

Oh i thought you meant video

I think you might want the video cuz it took me some messing around with autostakkert to get the stacks right

[somber stratus]

Yeah, i'm sure you know how to stack properly, don't need to redo that. More just wanting to play with different % combinations of IR & UV as per synthetic green

Ok

sure

[cursive inlet]

You don't mind waiting abt 10 mins? The files need to upload

[somber stratus]

yeah np

[cursive inlet]

https://filetransfer.io/data-package/3a0Wl0Ut#link aight here's the IR, gunna send the uv once its done uploading

[somber stratus]

ty

what camera was this again?

[cursive inlet]

asi462 color

[somber stratus]

ok, so i need to debayer then

or at least the UV

[cursive inlet]

But I converted everything to mono in pipp

[somber stratus]

ty

ok

nvm then

[cursive inlet]

For UV i only used the blue channel to convert to mono

[somber stratus]

I wouldn't do that imho as the other channels do respond to UV wavelengths

albeit much less

I'd debayer, then convert to mono using all channels

[cursive inlet]

Hmm idk I do everything in pipp and when I create a mono from all channels I need to bring the gain way up for the video to get to 60% histo

More noise

[somber stratus]

not sure why that's the case

Idk, seems kinda inefficient to be throwing 75% of the pixels in the bayer matrix, even if the response is poor.

[cursive inlet]

Idk

[somber stratus]

ah

sure

thought it would be a higher % on the others ngl

yeah, just blue is fine

[cursive inlet]

https://filetransfer.io/data-package/QHN3Rr2p#link here's the UV

[somber stratus]

You sir need the 462MM

[cursive inlet]

I guess Venus would be much better with a mono

[somber stratus]

Certainly. IR is fine with the MC as the bayer matrix becomes transparent past 850nm

[cursive inlet]

Still with a mono i'd need to buy a lot more kit

[somber stratus]

But UV/Blue is very inefficient

[somber stratus]

how so

[cursive inlet]

filters wheels and RGB filters

[somber stratus]

You do exact same as you've done with the MC

ah

i'm just referring to UV-IR bicolour Venus imaging here

Dont need normal RGB filters

[cursive inlet]

I mean yeah I could do color work with the osc and venus with the mono

[somber stratus]

yup

that's what i do with my Uranus-C & 462MM

[cursive inlet]

but I aint buying a camera for one planet 🤣

[somber stratus]

Uranus/Neptune & CH4 imaging with 462MM, plus Venus ofc

lmao

[cursive inlet]

Perhaps someday when I upgrade to a 12 inch

[somber stratus]

then it'd be worth it

[cursive inlet]

Yeah, I think with 8" of aperture and a color cam, plus Venus being so small rn, the results are decent, I'm pretty happy atleast

[somber stratus]

What exp time were you using on the UV captures out of curiosity?

[cursive inlet]

I dont remember

hold maybe its written somewhere in the file data

[fading plume]

It should be in the camera settings text file

[cursive inlet]

thx

[cursive inlet]

15.91 ms

Dunno if the longer exposure was worth it though

[somber stratus]

Not too bad i suppose

[cursive inlet]

Still the most detail I'm able to pull out now is a darker equatorial region

[somber stratus]

IR

not sure if you also got those two dark regions

[cursive inlet]

Hmm

[somber stratus]

this is just wavelets

[cursive inlet]

What percent did you stack?

[somber stratus]

5%

30% for UV, but yet to look at that

[cursive inlet]

Yeah you need more for the IR

The seeing is too bad

[somber stratus]

seems fine with 5

if anything you stack a lower % when seeing is bad

hence 5%

[cursive inlet]

Yeah but those spots aren’t real

And you have same strange things north on the terminator

[somber stratus]

why would they not be real?

stacking artefacts?

dont think so

If anything you should yield these details from stacking a lower %, as the "seeing" is best in these frames

[cursive inlet]

Idk

[somber stratus]

UV

[cursive inlet]

Idk those spots just dont look like venus cloud formations

[somber stratus]

higher contrast

[somber stratus]

it's possible i think. Not sure. I'll restack and see if it's just AS!3 being weird

[somber stratus]

send me your raw stack

[cursive inlet]

Its dark because sharpening overexposes sometimes

so I normalized in autostakkert to 30%

[somber stratus]

sure. What % frames stacked?

[cursive inlet]

30

[somber stratus]

Ok found it. It's the laplace setting. Noise robust.

I had it at 4, which made it "align" to the noise. When at 5+ it yields similar result to yours

Must be AS!3

[cursive inlet]

Yeah mines set to 5 but idk what it does so I never change it

[somber stratus]

@cursive inlet

[cursive inlet]

👌

Looks very good

[somber stratus]

No luminance shenanigans, just the output from Photoshop RGB composition. 50% of each for SynG

Honestly surprised how good this is given the raw video

[cursive inlet]

Do you know maybe why when I export a tif out of gimp its no longer compatible with registax?

[somber stratus]

Regi only accepts .tif, not .tiff I think

something stupid like that

run it through PIPP & save as new tif

[cursive inlet]

Man I should pirate photoshop or smth gimp sucks

[somber stratus]

Single wavelets application in Astrosurface

Not too shabby

IR

[cursive inlet]

I've never used astrosurface for planetary

which wavelets do I use?

[somber stratus]

I used a mixture of both for the shots above

[cursive inlet]

Wth are those circles

[somber stratus]

But usually you only need the HF (high frequency) for normal planetary

I used pretty much all of the processes in the window for the UV one

3.8px Decon, max iterations. 2-3px noise prefilter. HF wavelets size 23, strength 99. LF size 22, strength ~30. Gain 0.4, gamma 1.1

repro

Tbh it's all in the wavelets. Have to play around to find the best

[cursive inlet]

I think the first iteration was better

[somber stratus]

yeah, went harder 2nd time

[cursive inlet]

Hmm, couldn't really get it quite right

@somber stratus you mind if I use your edit for the post? I'll give you credit.

[obtuse yew]

Astrosurface or PixInsight better for sharpening? Do each work well for a specific planet? Both better than Registax?

[onyx garnet]

@cursive inlet quick question
How do you combine ir pass and ir cut data together

[cursive inlet]

You can use gimp. Just align the two images, then what I do is I set the color image overlay mode to color mode and you are done.

Or you can use winjupos

winjupos probably works better for Jupiter

[onyx garnet]

what is winjupos

[cursive inlet]

Im going to bed rn, just look it up.

Or ask in #🤓-ask-a-nerd

Someone will explain it to you

[onyx garnet]

cool

[somber stratus]

Yeah, don’t have to credit either

All good

[stray chasm]

Orion spaceprobe telescope untracked Jupiter picture

[hasty hull]

@cursive inlet @somber stratus thoughts? Venus in UV from just now

I’m pretty sure that’s detail

the raw stack

[cursive inlet]

Definitely seems so

Great job!

[hasty hull]

Thanks!! Really pleased with this

The w47 + IRcut is really nice

[cursive inlet]

Yeah, I love that Venus is getting a lot more attention now

[hasty hull]

Yeah its a really cool target

[somber stratus]

Did you use a normal IR cut?

i.e ZWO or such

Bc that's basically blue wavelengths if so. I think the one Guga uses has an increased width and includes a touch of UV

[hasty hull]

“IR Cutoff Filter” from Orion

[cursive inlet]

The difference is probably small though, I’ve seen people get detail with actual blue filters.

[hasty hull]

Also, normal RGB data. I swear I see something here too

[somber stratus]

Oh i know, just more contrast in UV against Blue

[somber stratus]

yeah, looks like a touch of UV. Similar to Guga

[hasty hull]

Hey nice, reassuring that it’s real detail in there

[cursive inlet]

Interesting. Venus tends to vary in contrast. Forecast is showing a partly cloudy evening tomorrow so I might get a shot.

[hasty hull]

and the stack if anyone is interested

Seeing was pretty good too. Like 25° altitude

Sun was in the process of setting

[heavy mirage]

@cursive inlet For taking images of Venus with w47 + ir cut, do I need some specific brand/manufacturer for the w47? Or can I just buy the lumicon #47 filter/ can I get away with a cheaper TPO #47 filter?

[cursive inlet]

They probably all come from the same factory in China anyway

[heavy mirage]

Ah ok, its just the lumicon is like 50 dollars while the tpo is 10

[hasty hull]

I use the tpo

It seems to work

[cursive inlet]

My one cost me 5 euros and works decently

[heavy mirage]

Gotcha. What about the ir cut filter? can I use my optolong uv/ir cut? or should I invest in some other one for this purpose

[cursive inlet]

Does it have a transmission graph?

[cursive inlet]

Eh, should be fine

Looks like it lets a bit of light through below 400nm

[hasty hull]

@cursive inlet would it be possible to make a nice composite of the RGB and UV data? Or would I also need some IR

[cursive inlet]

With a w47 you are technicaly shooting somewhere between UV and violet

[cursive inlet]

Yeah you could, your cloud details will be mostly UV though. If you don't have an IR filter I would get one cuz its useful for other planets too.

[hasty hull]

I have one ordered, been out of stock for over 2 months tho

[cursive inlet]

I wouldn't even really worry getting a good shot of Venus now. Its still very small compared to how big it's going to get right before summer.

[hasty hull]

True

I’m really excited for morning apparition in October. Something like 42° altitude before the sun rises

[cursive inlet]

Yeah that should be really good

Idk just the whole thing with needing special filters of different wavelength to reveal hidden features of the planet makes it one of my favorite targets

[heavy mirage]

Thanks at @cursive inlet and @hasty hull I ordered the tpo filter, excited to try it when I get the chance

[hasty hull]

Good luck, you’ll get some killer images with your rig for sure

[near quiver]

i have trees that make it impossible to image venus from my house

i mean i could but it would be annoying and dangerous

[hasty hull]

I was shooting through some branches

[hasty hull]

Awesome

[ruby tartan]

R(G)UV

[hasty hull]

Oh wow that is amazing

[near quiver]

yall are making me want to go image venus

[hasty hull]

It’s very fun

[ruby tartan]

My eq5 engines burned out, I won't capture until next month

😔

[somber stratus]

more the UV/IR that makes the difference

some have a lower cut-off so you end up passing more UV, which you want in this case. From what i can tell Astronomik IR-Block & Orion IR-cutting filter are decent. Anything that passes a little below 400nm is optimal - most UV/IR cuts have easily obtainable transmission curves online

My Baader Bessel U (~Johnson U here) is waiting for me back home. Just need to pick a weekend to test it out. Should be interesting. This is how it compares to W47+IR cut.

[hasty hull]

Can’t wait to see how that goes

How often do certain cloud structures stay on Venus? Would it be much different over the course of a few days?

[somber stratus]

yes, features "rotate"

Not in coordination with the surface* as this rotates incredibly slowly

[hasty hull]

Yeah isn’t it tidally locked

[somber stratus]

No, retrograde rotation.

Very slow (long period)

Day>Year iirc

Not sure if that's sidereal or solar day

[hasty hull]

Ooh oops, I should really get to know space better tbh

Classes in HS are no good for that and idk where I’ll go after tbh

[somber stratus]

Sidereal day

Solar day is 0.5x the year

ish

So the sun rises twice for any given location in a Venusian year

But a star / constellation stays visible all year (or at least only sets/rises once)

[hasty hull]

That’s really wacky

Pretty neat

Venus night side imaging is possible right? I believe I’ve seen images of it using some super super deep IR

Like the heat signature or something

[somber stratus]

yeah, theres a window at 1.01 microns

= 1010nm

[hasty hull]

It is actual surface features right? Not just more cloud

[somber stratus]

Yeah, thermal re-radiation from the surface. Darker regions in images are higher up (colder)

[hasty hull]

Oh wow

[wispy pagoda]

I'll probably try a bit of jupiter and venus

And there's a io transit!

[heavy mirage]

So the optolong uvir cut filter is good, but if I find anything even lower would be ideal

[sharp ridge]

Interestingly Hubble imaged the same time as me on Nov 12 2022, good way to compare

[hasty hull]

That is really really cool

[flint veldt]

bro better than nasa

[livid sierra]

So for Venus with detail and colours you need the W47, IR block and 850nm IR pass if I understand it correctly?

Will add those to my wishlist if so

And the UV/IR cut of course but I already have that one

[somber stratus]

IR 685 is also an option. Better diffraction limit.

Depends on altitude & seeing

[livid sierra]

@somber stratus could I use the 685 for normal IR stuff too? Like would it be better to have just the 685 or to have both a 610 and an 850 and no 685?

[somber stratus]

610 & IR850 imho

[scarlet field]

which is hubble

wait

i see

thats insane

💀💀💀💀💀💀

[hasty hull]

Venus rn in some terrible seeing, 45° altitude. Sun was 37° up

[lunar hamlet]

Venus form a while ago

Mars

[hasty hull]

Nice shots

[nocturne zinc]

No one can beat my seeing rn... this is supposed to be Mars🤣

[quick umbra]

💀

[hasty hull]

Venus in UV just now

[hasty hull]

UV jupiter

@ruby tartan what program did you use to combine/mix the color channels?

[ruby tartan]

I use photoshop and do it manually

[hasty hull]

Nice

@cursive inlet you use Gimp right?

[somber stratus]

PS or Gimp works

[somber stratus]

bro hasn't seen ganymede

[scarlet field]

Nah I’m talking about the planet

Yk the big round thing in the middle

[cursive inlet]

Yeah

[hasty hull]

Are there any tutorials for combining the layers in gimp? I did a bit of searching and I couldn’t find anything

[cursive inlet]

https://remoteastrophotography.com/2020/03/using-gimp-to-combine-three-mono-images-into-one-rgb

[hasty hull]

should i put the UV on top or the RGB?

[cursive inlet]

The order doesn't actually matter

you just have to set each layer's blend mode to screen

and after that you just play around with levels until your colors are balanced

Btw you also have to create the green channel with a 50 percent blend of the uv and rgb

[ruby tartan]

Try using R from RGB and UV, R=R, G=R+UV and UV=B

[ruby tartan]

like i did here

[hasty hull]

thats probably why this isnt working haha

also thank you guys for the help

ive never done something like this before so i am completely clueless tbh

[cursive inlet]

But dont set the opacity mode to screen when combining two layers into the green channel, just use the normal mode for that

[hasty hull]

looking funky

alright im gonna try and make that green channel now

[cursive inlet]

You set your rgb stack to red right?

[hasty hull]

probably not

[cursive inlet]

Actually I wouldn't colorize the layers yet. To create the green channel you need to duplicate the mono rgb and uv layers and then combine them. After that you colorize

[hasty hull]

this is done in the colorize tab right? sry im so clueless lol

[cursive inlet]

No to combine the duplicates of the layers you first make only the layers you want to combine visible, then you set the top layer opacity to 50%, then right click and select merge visible layers.

Sorry this probably sounds pretty confusing

I would show you but im not at home rn

[hasty hull]

its alright haha, im here to learn these things

[hasty hull]

which option

[cursive inlet]

Leave it the way it was just press merge

And now you can colorize

Also btw when you are colorizing you should adjust the lightness slider so the layer isnt overexposed

[somber stratus]

some funny hubble data

single 30-sec capture. IR845

[hasty hull]

[heavy mirage]

Better than jwst lol

[ruby tartan]

But jwsp hasn't released the images of uranus yet

[bleak oak]

I've built out this filter out of my Dslr (Nikon d40) would this improve my planetary images?

[sharp ridge]

ir-uv cut?

[hasty hull]

Venus just now

Normal OSC

[heavy mirage]

You're right, I forgot whether it was Neptune or Uranus that JWST took a photo of

[stray chasm]

Does anyone have any mercury shots?I never see them. I see more Venus pictures than mercury.

[scarlet field]

Cause mercury hard to image since it’s right next to the sun

[stray chasm]

I get that but I just wanna see at least one ok mercury picture that nasa didn’t make

[scarlet field]

There’s transit pics

[hasty hull]

Tom got a really really good Mercury a little while back

[buoyant marsh]

Look at this AMAZING picture I got of Jupiter and it's four Galilean moons!

...picture I got from stellarium

[barren dune]

@sharp ridge did u notice this

Not critical lol but i think a minor moon of jupiter in the hubble image from nov 12 that u were comparing to urs amazing btw

[hasty hull]

love Charlie

[somber stratus]

artefact

Hubble has tons of these

[barren dune]

Awww

[somber stratus]

Also exposures are usually on the order of ~10-30sec so you'd have motion blur if it was a minor moon

[buoyant marsh]

Charlie's funny

[ruby tartan]

He has already captured both, but only Neptune has been disclosed.

[somber stratus]

Definitely discovered aliens so they aren't disclosing it

[near quiver]

saw venus for the first time today, it is very small. hopefully ill get to image it soon, but in visual light so its not going to be all that great

[cursive inlet]

Can’t wait for Tom to have a go at Venus

[somber stratus]

Yeah, me too buddy

Just need to schedule a weekend to go back home to my scope

at Uni currently

[livid sierra]

Is there any use to imaging Venus by daylight? With the w47, ir block and ir filters and all too? Or at that point is it better to just use an ir filter. And only go for UV when it’s actually like dark

[somber stratus]

Theoretically, it should be doable. IR certainly is as i've done it myself. UV imaging is slightly more difficult as the sky brightness will limit exposures to something much shorter than otherwise used. You have to prevent overexposure. Using shorter exposures in UV especially will degrade image quality as per noise.

Not to mention daytime seeing is atrocious in most cases

Worth a try, but dont expect much

Some images i've seen on astrobin were taken ~1 hour before sunset. This is fine & clearly works but i wouldn't try in the mid-afternoon

[livid sierra]

I see

[somber stratus]

But tbh daytime seeing & then higher altitude of the planet cancel each other out.

[livid sierra]

I think I might actually just stick with buying the IR850 and 610 next for now. Maybe I’ll buy the IR block and W47 later or next year. Kinda gotta watch my money currently, for summer break too ofc lol

Can use the 850 for Venus still and the 610 for other… stuff

Moon & shii

Using the 850 on Venus just shows some cloud detail right? But won’t give any nice colours like combining it with UV will?

[somber stratus]

@cursive inlet

Seeing is errrr. Yeah…

[cursive inlet]

I mean I can see a phase, atleast that’s good 😅

[somber stratus]

Can see cloud structure on live view though. Phone vid above doesn’t do justice

[cursive inlet]

My data wasn’t all that good either but the end result was decent. I am eager to see your image once you process it!

[somber stratus]

Might do a run on Jupiter for the jokes of it

[cursive inlet]

GRS should be visible rn

[livid sierra]

Man if my backyard was pointed West instead of North I'd be able to image Venus

South-West rather

But it's pointed North-East

[somber stratus]

A little dim

[livid sierra]

That's in UV?

[somber stratus]

Yeah

Now at native 1800mm

[livid sierra]

Woah looking gooooood

[somber stratus]

GRS do be dark

[cursive inlet]

Probably not much difference than Jupiter with a blue filter

Did a uv capture back in November

[somber stratus]

It's something! @cursive inlet

I mean for the seeing, it's a good test run

[cursive inlet]

Nice

Similar to mine, darker equatorial region

[somber stratus]

Jup

native 1800

[topaz elk]

wow tom really fell off after a few months /s

[somber stratus]

real

[ruby tartan]

Tom, can you send me those captures you took today?

[somber stratus]

Raw stacks?

I can in 30mins

[somber stratus]

@ruby tartan

[ruby tartan]

You sent the processed UV filter file

[somber stratus]

whoops

i'll send the raw now

[somber stratus]

late season Mars. Moments of usable seeing. 8.5 arcsec

[buoyant marsh]

Nice

[cloud copper]

got this image of jupiter with my p30 lite and my seben 150/1400 newt telescope ant 150X zoom + 3X digital zoom. Stacked 15% of 6000 frames.

[somber stratus]

New UV haul

better seeing today - nothing exceptional though

[ruby tartan]

Nice

[somber stratus]

this was final comp

[fading plume]

Hot

[ruby tartan]

🥵

[cursive inlet]

Awesome

[ruby tartan]

Raw data

[somber stratus]

@ruby tartan two UV images. Did a stack of stacks personally but you do you.

[ruby tartan]

[onyx garnet]

de ducc has joined uranus c chat

[ruby tartan]

Bruh

[onyx garnet]

lmao

[craggy wasp]

What could be a good x2 barlow for planetary and some visual?

[onyx garnet]

almost any barlow is fine

one of the good quality ones is the celestron x cel barlows

[near quiver]

Not true

[onyx garnet]

ok then

[near quiver]

A low quality Barlow can ruin your image, invest in a good one

GSO is the minimum, if possible get televue

[onyx garnet]

I got a bst star guider

[craggy wasp]

Celestron X-Cel?

[near quiver]

I believe that one is good

[onyx garnet]

ye

[near quiver]

The problem with a bad Barlow is that all of the light has to go through it, so it can really mess up your image

[livid sierra]

Yeah you’ll get some terrible CA with a bad barlow for example

[ruby tartan]

celestron x-cel

Or powermate 2x

[somber stratus]

Daytime UV

[livid sierra]

Epic style

[somber stratus]

It’s hilarious watching the seeing drop off when the sun comes out

Did 5 UV captures while it was shaded. Doing IR now but sun is out

Have got the main OTA in-shadow but the back of the secondary is the problem. Impossible to shield without also reducing effective aperture

[ruby tartan]

Did you find it through the finder or GoTo?

[somber stratus]

Finder scope & altitude marker on the base. Set to 39deg (from stellarium) then just slewed left to right until I saw it

It’s very bright in the finder

Then did daytime align on the hand controller. Tracking kicked in basically. No GoTo slewing needed

[ruby tartan]

Good idea

[livid sierra]

Bro I’d be scared shitless with sunlight that close near my scope

Falling into the ota even

[mossy ibex]

Jupiter

And the moon

[somber stratus]

Eh, it’s not a concern, you need to be within about 10deg to cause any type of damage. Having a touch of light on the primary isn’t even an issue. That light won’t focus onto the secondary when it’s coming in from such an extreme angle @livid sierra

[mossy ibex]

Jupiter one wasn’t great tho

[somber stratus]

Single, quick wavelets

[livid sierra]

Hadn’t thought about that. Still freaky thou

Btw are those little balls on the bottom end of your ota handles? To hold it?

While carrying it I mean

[somber stratus]

No, magnets for balance

[livid sierra]

Oh you can stick those just onto the side of the ota? What do they weigh a piece?

[somber stratus]

Not a lot, I have about 8

Enough to correct for the main imaging train

IR

[mossy ibex]

Is it summer for you?

[somber stratus]

No lol, late winter, live in the UK

Temp is currently just above freezing

[mossy ibex]

Looks a lot more warmer

[somber stratus]

I assure you it isn’t

[mossy ibex]

Yh I’m used to the cold and I hate it by now I just want spring to come

Still snow here

[somber stratus]

IR looking spicy @ruby tartan

edge rind is very prominent but nice cloud detail for 850nm

[ruby tartan]

Danm 🥵

Files, now

[somber stratus]

Hmm

Still imaging mate

Going for a Timelapse of the clouds

They rotate about the planet in 3-4 days. Should get two images about 90 mins apart

Clouds should move about 0.5 arcsec

I mean Venus is dropping down so seeing could be a bit meh on the second image. We’ll see

[cursive inlet]

holy moly

[somber stratus]

UV. Sun is blocked again. Seeing go brrr

[craggy wasp]

What's your camera btw

[somber stratus]

ZWO ASI462MM (Early-Bird).

Early bird in the sense it lacks the usual DDR3 RAM buffer

Best UV. I'll send after doing some Lunar imaging. Still outside

[somber stratus]

we commit some crimes

Single panel

got 8 panel mosaic coming

[ruby tartan]

D-A-M-N

files

[somber stratus]

Stacking Lunar. PC dying. Will have to wait. Also want to have a go myself first

[wispy pagoda]

Wow that's insane

[near quiver]

i want a uranus c now holy

[somber stratus]

That's ASI462MM

lol

[near quiver]

oh interesting

i still want a uranus c

[somber stratus]

But Uranus is a good cam

[near quiver]

oh right its in ir

[somber stratus]

Yeah, Moon was 610nm+

462MM more suited for it

[near quiver]

how does the pixel scale compare?

[livid sierra]

Same pixel size

[hardy niche]

Not an image, But a video of Jupiter, with three of it's 4 Galilean Moons, Callisto, Europa and Io just about visible.

Canon T3i, 55-200mm lens

[ruby tartan]

[somber stratus]

getting stacks for you now

[wispy pagoda]

The ir sensitivity different is that big?
I would have thought that the higher absolute qe of the uranus c and the larger sensor compensate the lower relative sensitivity in ir

[somber stratus]

3 x IR @ruby tartan

[wispy pagoda]

Gorgeous

[hardy niche]

If I got enough video like this, is it likely that I could get bands on Jupiter?

[somber stratus]

4x UV

[somber stratus]

Sensor size makes no difference. Absolute QE is better in the green part of the spectrum yes, but we're talking IR here

which isn't green

[wispy pagoda]

You most likely won't
Jupiter looks overexposed and a dslr+200mm lens isn't very good

[hardy niche]

Ah okay

[somber stratus]

Also bayer matrix gets in the way below 850nm. Massive drop in efficiency

[wispy pagoda]

Well if you do a mosaic sensor size makes a (big) difference
And when I said absolute qe I meant absolute qe peak (just to say the the difference in the relative graphs is less important)
Idk if I'm clear, sorry but I'm tired af

[somber stratus]

edge of field has coma in almost all cases so you dont want a massive sensor really.

[wispy pagoda]

But you still can try with different settings

[somber stratus]

also manage to record 100fps nicely at 1080p

laptop suffers in 4K that the Uranus-C

[wispy pagoda]

Oh ok

Makes sense

Litterally the worst seeing I've ever seen where I live

[ruby tartan]

Damn

[cursive inlet]

Just wow

[cursive inlet]

Cant even imagine what you'll be getting in October.

[somber stratus]

cloud movement

pretty neat. These are 45mins apart

[sharp ridge]

fr

[cursive inlet]

@somber stratus you mentioned Venusian clouds rotate in 3-4 days, wouldn’t it be cool to make an animation of Venus images 3-4 days apart that would show actual structural changes in the clouds not just rotation?

Kinda like Voyager’s blue movie

https://tenor.com/view/voyager1-jupiter-pidaras-gif-20107894

[somber stratus]

Correct. Not sure what the exact rotation (circulation?) period is though

varies. We could collectively measure it though

[cursive inlet]

I’ll probably be having some clear weather tomorrow, might be able to get an image.

[somber stratus]

FYI the motion is retrograde

i.e

[livid sierra]

Silly Venus

[somber stratus]

UV

[somber stratus]

@ruby tartan most i could get out of IR. Pushed it to the limit.

colour comp looks quite nice actually with this as R channel. Blue wisps

[ruby tartan]

I'll process later, then I'll send the result

[sharp ridge]

cooked to perfection

[somber stratus]

yeah, about the same

what is it you use again out of interest?

[ruby tartan]

I just merged the IR(g)UV

[ruby tartan]

What did I use to process?

[somber stratus]

Yeah

[ruby tartan]

The usual, I started with astrosurface and finished in photoshop, I used nikcollection, topaz denoise for noise reduction, gausian blur and photoshop sharp

[somber stratus]

Coolio, quite similar. I do Astrosurface -> PS

No topaz though

[ruby tartan]

Used topaz denoise from time to time, only when there are those thicker noises, it removes well

The lunar captures, can you send them? It has been a long time since I processed a lunar image.

[knotty salmon]

@somber stratus With your lunar images, any secrets? or is it just seeing conditions

[pearl urchin]

its aperture conditions

[sharp ridge]

frfr, also winter seeing without ground effect is op

[somber stratus]

Stack at lowish %. I do 10% to reduce seeing effects. Also use <15ms exposure. Again to “freeze” the seeing sufficiently.

Then the usual - scope cool down, collimation etc

[somber stratus]

And this

[knotty salmon]

Well I've got a 16" manual that I don't use anymore, just sitting there really. The 12" RC isn't too good either as it's got a mono DSO train. the 10" Newt is my only scope that's half decent

And you'd be surprised to know that there's a 10" SCT sitting on an old paramount GT1100 that I... cannot get off

[somber stratus]

For Lunar, tracking is pretty essential if you’re going deep. Planetary wise you could get away with using the manual 16”

[knotty salmon]

10" it is then, I need to get past WA seeing though.

conditions are questionable.

[somber stratus]

Yeah Jet stream is rough for you guys down-under

[cursive inlet]

Yessiir

[cloud copper]

lucky

Guys should I buy a used svbony sv 205 camera ? Its priced at 350 ron = 70 euro

[wispy pagoda]

This animation will always blow my mind

[near quiver]

whens the best time to image venus? ive been meaning to try it

[cursive inlet]

After sunset rn

[fading plume]

before sunset

if you have cold ground

and no sun on your OTA

[near quiver]

sorry i phrased that wrong

i mean like what phase of venus

[fading plume]

nto sure

[near quiver]

because obviously venus opposition is way too close to the sun and it would be invisible anyway, like when is the best time

[coarse aspen]

i say half phase

[near quiver]

that would make sense, its the furthest from the sun so you can get the best seeing

[coarse aspen]

yes

i've heard (not confirmed though) that a crescent venus can be resolved naked eye

I'd like to learn more about that

[livid sierra]

Mars from yesterday. Processed super quickly before heading to bed. 8.26” in size

[cursive inlet]

The thinner Venus is, the bigger is it’s apparent size. The best phase I would say is a little less than 50% illumination. It’s pretty big in the sky but theres still enough surface illuminated for detail.

[somber stratus]

yeah, 40% is the sweet spot

[somber stratus]

You have to have supreme eyesight

[cursive inlet]

Some birds probably can, dunno about people

[somber stratus]

• some sort of filter to darken the view. Moon filter held to your eyes for example. It's too bright otherwise.

You can spot the Galilean moons by eye. You have to find a street post or similar to eclipse Jupiter. Callisto & Ganymede are easiest.

• dark skies

[livid sierra]

I reckon they’d be pretty hard to distinguish from the stars tho

[livid sierra]

Oh btw @thick heron that new WJ update makes derotation such a breeze

No need to adjust every frame one by one anymore

Just adjust 1 and the rest is done automatically it’s amazing

[thick heron]

Glad to hear it’s working! Now if only I could utilize it…

I’ve got my eye out for nearby used Obsession Classics and other dobs like it.

[cursive inlet]

@somber stratus how do you color balance your ir g uv Venus images?

I'm having a lot of trouble getting that natural caramel white look

[somber stratus]

Nothing really

i normalised both (before wavelets) to 65%. I did this upon stacking in AS!3 but PIPP works too. Then applied wavelets

saved

did IR(g)UV combo

then upped the temperature in PS camera raw by about +7

done

[clear pier]

hi, im looking for a decently cheap barlow lens for a skywatcher heritage 150p, any suggestions?

[topaz elk]

ina with 3/5 seeing and 8" dob

[sharp ridge]

NICE

[near quiver]

why are you so much better than everybody else

[sharp ridge]

@topaz elk i edited yr pic

[topaz elk]

yeah i didnt fully edit it cuz i have work

thanks tho bro

[topaz elk]

built different idk 😎

[near quiver]

i will say i did get a moon mosaic that i am very proud of

12 panels

[topaz elk]

moretus

[livid sierra]

Mars in IR and a mosaic of Clavius which people are just reacting laughing emojis on in #older_system_pics for some reason

[somber stratus]

no idea why

Unrelated but you could brighten that Mars a touch

[livid sierra]

Yeah looking at it on my phone it’s a little dark

[lunar hamlet]

Every time I put a surface moon vid through Pipp it never works correctly but when ever I try putting a full disc moon it just puts out images instead of a tracked vid

[fading plume]

Set the output mode to avi

And try playing around with your alignment box for the close up footage

And extract your red channel for a bit extra sharpness

[lunar hamlet]

I do a lot but even after like 6 tries on one it still didn’t work

[lunar hamlet]

How?

[fading plume]

Don’t bother with that now you can use siril later

[lunar hamlet]

I guess I haven’t tried using siril for lunar yet

[fading plume]

You only want to extract the channels after you have processed with registax

[lunar hamlet]

Damn, I gotta work with my moon more

I also haven’t used registax for moon, only for planetary

[fading plume]

Lol yeah use it

[lunar hamlet]

Silly me

[fading plume]

before vs after wavelets @lunar hamlet

[lunar hamlet]

Whatttt

You end up resolving soooo much more

Teach me the way

[fading plume]

ina area

[lunar hamlet]

That’s how I can get ina

[fading plume]

yup

[lunar hamlet]

Let’s goooooo

What are the settings needed to do that?

[livid sierra]

@fading plume you use all 6 sliders?

[fading plume]

Yea

[fading plume]

Just adjust them until they look good. Use the denoise level function sparingly. You might just be able to copy mine lol. It will give you a starting point.

Just roughly the same will work. It really depends on your data getting a good result

[lunar hamlet]

But in your screen shots, nothing changes

[fading plume]

I just turned the view on and off

[lunar hamlet]

Ahh

Thx man, I’ll try that tonight prob

My chances of getting ina just went wayyyy up

[topaz elk]

holy shit you never did wavelets?

no wonder why its always so blurry

[lunar hamlet]

Yeah

I would always go with Pipp, as3 then Lightroom and that’s it (for lunar)

[fading plume]

There’s a guy in #older_system_pics who posted a Venus image and didn’t know what they were

[sharp ridge]

Clavius, nicely on the terminator

[somber stratus]

why inverted bruh

[somber stratus]

lmao you havent been using wavelets?

playing on hard mode.

[livid sierra]

Sharper than mine 🛀

[topaz elk]

whats wrong with clavius

[livid sierra]

Fym

[topaz elk]

you said something is not right with this pic

[livid sierra]

Ooh

Yeah I’m not saying thou

[lunar hamlet]

Haha yeah

[topaz elk]

holy single frame

[onyx garnet]

Looks good

[fading plume]

Nice nice. Very sharp

What’s your Barlow again? I’ve been meaning to buy a nice quality one for lunar

[topaz elk]

2x X-Cel

celestron

[fading plume]

Ah nice

Now all I need is the seeing

Perhaps I’ll get the 3x it’s better suited for my setup.

[topaz elk]

yeah

[coarse aspen]

this looks like it was taken with a 16"

[ruby tartan]

Damn, nice

I'm looking forward to getting back in action.

[heavy mirage]

Attempted to shoot Venus and Jupiter but clouds started coming in fast

Only got a couple minutes of data, wasn't any good though lol

[frozen root]

F

[cloud copper]

Got this image with some craters but im not that good at processing lunar colse ups. Any tips?

[livid sierra]

Make sure not to overexpose

While capturing

Apply wavelets

Apply a levels in AS to get correct exposure

[cloud copper]

Is this one better?

[livid sierra]

I’d aim for something between this one and the other one

[livid sierra]

This one looks a little overcooked

Is this just wavelets?