Planetary Imaging

[obtuse yew]

Good to know. I always assumed I had to keep my exposure time really low untracked. I've been using 4-6ms with my 10 inch Newtonian

But maybe I'm adding unnecessary grain by keeping my gain too high

[ruby tartan]

Saturn last night

[ruby tartan]

Mars last night

[ruby tartan]

Jupiter last night

[lunar hamlet]

@near quiver what do I have to do to get Pipp?

I’m in the Pipp website

[near quiver]

youre here?

[lunar hamlet]

Yeah

[near quiver]

are you on windows or mac

[lunar hamlet]

Did you get the 64 bit?

[near quiver]

yes

[lunar hamlet]

Okay

[errant flax]

Is it possible to get photos of Saturn's moons from earth? I know you would need a huge telescope or a really good camera if it were

[near quiver]

actually it isnt that hard

[lunar hamlet]

Ive installed the 64 bit

[errant flax]

really?

[near quiver]

ok run it

[near quiver]

yeah you need a long focal length, you stack some images and you should get a few of its brighter moons

[lunar hamlet]

How do I import my vid?

[near quiver]

just drag it under filename

the big open space in the middle

you can also click add image files and navigate to your video

[lunar hamlet]

But which program

[near quiver]

pipp

[lunar hamlet]

Sorry I meant this

[near quiver]

the one that says "source files" it should be open by default

[lunar hamlet]

Okay thx

[near quiver]

and while youre in there click under where it says "optimise options for:" and click planetary

[lunar hamlet]

Wait I’m trying to get the vid I’ll. Tell you when I get it

So I just drag it under file name?

[near quiver]

yes

[lunar hamlet]

Not working

Wait it has to be a file right

Not just a video

[near quiver]

no it has to be a video

it wont work if you try to add an entire folder

[lunar hamlet]

So I dragged the file in to it and it’s telling me I have lots of frames do you know what do you after this point?

[near quiver]

yup, did you click optimise options for: planetary?

[lunar hamlet]

Yes

[near quiver]

ok so now go to the processing options tab. under object detection, go to the minimum object size and set it to maybe 15px instead of 25

[lunar hamlet]

Okay did that

[near quiver]

then go to quality options and check "enable quality estimation", under quality limiting change "number of frames to keep" to "percentage of frames to keep" and set it to maybe 75

so that will basically make it remove the worst 25% of the frames from the stack

[lunar hamlet]

Okay I did that

[near quiver]

now you should be able to go to "do processing" and click "start processing"

[lunar hamlet]

Okay i clicked start processing

[near quiver]

it might take a while depending on your computer, how many frames you have, and how high resolution they are

[near quiver]

when its done you can click "open output folder" and there should be a video file ending in .avi, if you watch it the planet should always be close to the middle, but its ok if it wobbles a bit

[lunar hamlet]

I’ll tell you when it’s done processing

[near quiver]

ok

[lunar hamlet]

Okay it’s done, I finished with 7804 frames

[near quiver]

great. now download autostakkert 3.1.4 if you havent already

[lunar hamlet]

Okay I’ll have to wait a bit to install it

My dad is a bit busy rn but thank you so much for the help so far

[near quiver]

ok ill be driving somewhere later so ill just leave the rest of the instructions here

[lunar hamlet]

Okay I’ll try asking some one else for help with autostakkert, again thank you so much

[near quiver]

1. Open autostakkert.exe
2. open the avi that came out of pipp in autostakkert
3. click analyse, that might take a while
4. on the "frame view" window, place an alignment point on the planet, you should just be able to click it
5. click stack, which also might take a while

if any of that doesnt work you can def find someone else to help, almost everybody who does planetary has used autostakkert before

[lunar hamlet]

Thanks Ben

[merry tangle]

Anyway to get closer up image ?

[near quiver]

a longer focal length will zoom you in more. you can get a longer focal length by getting a telescope with a longer fl or just getting a barlow lens. if you just want to make that image bigger, you can just crop it

[merry tangle]

what is a good barlow sorry im new i have a 3x

3xbarlow

[near quiver]

2x or 3x would work well

[merry tangle]

ok i have a 2

and a 20 mm lens

[near quiver]

ok start with the 2 and get used tracking that before you switch to the 3

[merry tangle]

OK THX

[near quiver]

you should also take a video and stack it instead of just taking one image. it might seem weird and complicated but it makes a world of difference

[turbid shore]

high gain low exp and also high speed setting on fc

[hasty hull]

Very doable, you just have to turn up the exposure

[obtuse yew]

I feel like the questioner really wants to know, can you resolve the disc of Saturn's moons

And the answer is only Titan, and you need quite a large scope. My 10 inch Newtonian can only get a couple pixels

[hasty hull]

Yeah, I’ve seen a few in this server do it very well. Being 0.7” across, it’s a great challenge

Probably one of the smallest objects realistically resolvable by amateurs

[lunar hamlet]

Can someone help me with autostakkert?

[hasty hull]

Wdym?

[lunar hamlet]

I don’t know how to use it

[coarse aspen]

Huh

You can resolve Saturn"s

[obtuse yew]

Just look up some tutorials on YouTube. You can find them for all of the software we use

[hasty hull]

#older_system_pics message (zoom into Titan)

[coarse aspen]

OH DAMN

Toms a legend

is it legal to ping tom i have a question

[polar sequoia]

ofc u can ping him

[polar sequoia]

he loves answering stuff

(i think)

[echo merlin]

RedCat 51 and 224 MC Planetary Camera

[fading plume]

weirdest ass setup ever lol

nice pics though

[near quiver]

How do you end up with a redcat and a 224mc

[fading plume]

wish.com telescope chooser

[near quiver]

Bro looked at the best selling equipment and picked the first telescope and camera he saw

It’s probably on a manual az-alt mount too

[fading plume]

but red

[ruby tartan]

Saturn last night

[lunar hamlet]

Nice

[ruby tartan]

Thanks

[ruby tartan]

Mars last night

[ruby tartan]

Jupiter last night

[lunar hamlet]

Nice

[echo merlin]

No I just did that for the moon.. I have the RedCat 51 and ZWO 183 MC pro camera

[echo merlin]

Thanks.. I just used that camera for the moon

I actually have the ZWO 183MC pro

[echo merlin]

Not true. Here’s a photo I got with my Redcat and 183

The 224 is my guide camera

The Optolong l-pro filter is amazing

[echo merlin]

Is that your scope?

[echo merlin]

I have the skyguider pro Mount

Here’s my setup

[near quiver]

Ok it’s good man relax we were kidding

[errant flax]

Anyone know when the next time Venus will be out in the night is

[echo merlin]

It depends on where you are!

[errant flax]

Checked a website it said Abt 6:30

Hopefully the big screen of clouds go away by then...

[fading plume]

Nah lol

[hasty hull]

Elongation from the sun is bad though, chances of seeing it aren’t that great

It’ll be a few months until it’ll be viable for good imaging

[errant flax]

Yea u were right

[coarse aspen]

that aint venus

[echo merlin]

That is my guide camera… I have the 183 MC pro camera and RedCat51 telescope

[echo merlin]

Read what I wrote above

[fading plume]

ah cool

[errant flax]

nah bro thats jupiter

venus isnt even out at night this time of year

[somber stratus]

Mars reprocessed, OSC & Blue Channel. Again an image from the 20th Aug, but lower altitude & earlier on. Olympus is more clearly seen, as is the cloud over Arsia Mons.

[obtuse yew]

Anyone know of some good mars processing tutorials? Having trouble getting my colors to look right

[somber stratus]

I've looked for some myself but couldn't find anything good. Best bet is to do what i did & just experiment

there is no "one" way to do it

[obtuse yew]

Any chance you could give me some bullet points on your process? Getting the color to look natural is my biggest problem

Right now all I do is dont stretch the histogram black or white point in PIPP, stack in Autostakkert and check the box to normalize the frames to 70%, then in Registax the auto balance for the RGB always ruins the colors, so I leave red and green at 1, and set the blue to 1.35-1.50 depending on the particular stack

[ruby tartan]

Damian Peach

[near quiver]

i shoot some jupiter data, going to try to figure out how registax works, wish me good luck

[near quiver]

registax is op lol

[near quiver]

does anybody know why it looks like theres a division almost as clear as the cassini division? looking at better images i cant see anything like it, so im assuming its a processing artifact. if so, how can i fix it? if not, wtf is it?

[lunar hamlet]

I need to learn how to use it from a pro, I know ish how to use it but I’m not great at it

[lunar hamlet]

It’s might be the c devision m, but I’m not sure how it’s called though

[near quiver]

i was looking at this image and i really cant see anything like it lol

[lunar hamlet]

?

[near quiver]

i guess im just seeing the c ring and the contrast is low enough that it looks mostly the same as the others

there is a relatively large division between c and b, if i managed to get that in a phone image ill be very happy with it

[hasty hull]

It’s definitely an artifact

Comes from stacking/oversharpening

Try bigger/fewer APs in Autostakkert

[near quiver]

ok it was def stacking bc my tiff has it too

[hasty hull]

Omg I struggled to type here lol

Had to edit like 3 times

[near quiver]

ok im not going to restack it because i would rather just shoot new data tomorrow but thanks for the help

[coarse aspen]

I don't know what it is

I see it in almost every phone image of saturn

Even I get it

Its nothing on your end

You aren't the only one getting that weird double ring division

[near quiver]

I’ll look into it tomorrow for now I need to sleep lol

[hasty hull]

Artifact

[coarse aspen]

Why do so many phones have it?

[hasty hull]

I don’t think it’s specifically phones

My theory is that it’s using too small/many APs for low res data

[somber crown]

Hey guys, I am new to this space, a small doubt regarding smartphone astrophotography, I carry a Google pixel 5a, the camera takes amazing landscape astroshots in astrophotography mode, but when we try to do zoom shots on moon, it automatically comes back to night mode with a 3 sec exposure, I know it can produce much better results with a regular 3 min exposure on astro mode, don't know hot to switch to astro mode when zoomed in, any tips would be helpful 🥲

This is the shot with 3 sec exposure on Google pixel in night mode, I know it would be much better with astro mode's 3 min exposure when zoomed in but can anyone suggest how to do so😅

[devout spear]

help I suck at proccecing https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y-pORTzzUZ79-4y4HfIVliw6pc6skSid?usp=sharing
ME:

You :

shows hubble procceced image

[near quiver]

heres the mars i took while waiting for eclipse, iphone x and 8 inch dob

i think it turned out pretty well

[near quiver]

I saw the ISS with my telescope earlier and Jesus it was bright

[main flume]

with dslr and f/30

12000 frames stacked

[ebon sage]

Best 2 images from last night was def better then the 2018 one

[near quiver]

My 224mc gets here mid-late December

[lunar hamlet]

You really did well on the eclipse

[topaz elk]

my picture made it onto google images

[onyx garnet]

Yo that's cool

[obtuse yew]

You'll be able to capture the end of the Mars opposition

[plush sonnet]

also if you want colour images disable "convert colour to monochrome files" in one of the tabs.

[near quiver]

it should only be set to monochrome if you optimize for moon (or maybe iss i havent tried that one)

[plush sonnet]

idk but better to check

[somber stratus]

I don’t even bother with the presets

[near quiver]

That’s fair, it’s just faster to explain than going through all the settings manually

[ruby tartan]

Using the presets is good for those who send the files somewhere, for example: Planetary Impact Flashes, there they need the name of the planet, time of the video, etc...

[onyx garnet]

very happy

[obtuse yew]

ASIcap randomly closed out on me while recording data. 150 gigs of crisp double moon transit Jupiter 😔 The file seems corrupted and PIPP won't open it. Is there any hope to recover the data or do I just have to take the L?

I feel so stupid for not switching over to sharpcap yet

[summer field]

Mars this morning

[ruby tartan]

great result with a 5"

[sharp ridge]

yeah literally better than this mornings image with c11

[limpid reef]

Meanwhile on the planet's surface:

Sol 611, NASA's Mars Perseverance rover acquired this image of the area in front of it using its onboard Front Right Hazard Avoidance Camera A.

This image was acquired on Nov. 8, 2022 (Sol 611) at the local mean solar time of 13:37:19.

[hasty hull]

Jupiter last night with hints of detail on Ganymede

[obtuse yew]

Damn bro that's the exact time I was capturing the data I lost. Looks awesome

[topaz elk]

scuffed looking moon

[devout spear]

someoe https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y-pORTzzUZ79-4y4HfIVliw6pc6skSid?usp=sharing

[barren dune]

3 images derod from ln have a bunch more gonne reprocess tmr

Too dimm ik looks brighter on pc

[wispy pagoda]

My first mars since it approaches opposition, with 5inch dob

[ruby tartan]

when will mars opposition be?

[ebon sage]

December 8th iirc

[ruby tartan]

Thanks

[turbid plume]

oo getting pretty close

[echo merlin]

Look how clear this image is!!

[somber stratus]

Near perfect seeing atm in the UK, despite a very strong Jet stream

[ebon sage]

that is literally no jet stream :v

[somber stratus]

(Or it’s just because I’m not used to shooting anything high altitude) 💀

60deg atm

[somber stratus]

Try again

I’m in south west, nearer the white

[ebon sage]

still better then what i get ;v

[coarse aspen]

how is uk seeing so good

[ebon sage]

not sure

it to good :v

[somber stratus]

its not, most of the time

This is my second night of excellent seeing in 2 years

and countless sessions

[ebon sage]

To ur standard

Which is way higher then ours

[ebon sage]

May I own ur hacks ?

[ruby tartan]

Nice

[onyx garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020657687291252797/1040820920480174090/20221111_233055_pipp_lapl5_ap27_conv-1.png

1st time at mars

[onyx garnet]

that's cool

[knotty salmon]

ay @somber stratus I got my hands on a 16" meade lightbridge

[ebon sage]

Is it goto or manual ?

[knotty salmon]

manual

but still, quite large

[ebon sage]

Lmc might be able to help u make it goto he a smart boi

[wispy pagoda]

Wow

[sharp ridge]

[fossil schooner]

you own or you just look?

[sharp ridge]

Finally got the god seeing pog

[fading plume]

When 16” dob?

[sharp ridge]

when I got the money and parents approval

[somber stratus]

Field rotation pain has entered the chat

[sharp ridge]

did some Uranus

[jaunty flame]

Is it worth getting a Ceres-c or are imx462 cams much better

[sharp ridge]

L to R: Titania, Ariel, Umbriel, I did get Miranda (mag 16.4) tho it was pretty faint so hard to represent it in the final image

[ruby tartan]

Try to use R as luminance, the bright pole of the planet will appear very easily

Like this

If you want, you can sharpen your R more to make it appear even more

[bleak oak]

Is this Mercury?

[bleak oak]

I have the same one (although the mirrors are like damaged and the rocket box is destroyed

[polar sequoia]

mars

[surreal palm]

Wow! what's your setup!?

[coarse aspen]

tom has a 16 inch dobsonian and a planetary camera i dont know which one though

ADC too

[somber stratus]

Skywatcher 400P, 3x Barlow, ADC, P1 Uranus-C

[surreal palm]

Thx for both of u

[errant flax]

uranus?

Autocorrect 💀

[ruby tartan]

Yes, but the image is not mine, it's from @sharp ridge

[molten kettle]

😩

[obtuse yew]

I need a 16 inch dob so bad but it's unbelievable to me how expensive they get when you add tracking

I've seen plans for building large dobsonians from scratch, and I think I have the skills to build a pretty nice 16-20 inch for myself, while keeping the cost around $1200

The question then becomes how hard is it to add high quality tracking to something like that

[errant flax]

hard

[obtuse yew]

I figured that would be the case

And a big dob really needs tracking

[errant flax]

i would go insaine tryna hand aim a giant dob💀

[obtuse yew]

I already almost lose my cool every single imaging session with my manual 10 inch

[coarse aspen]

yall think manual is that hard 💀

its not particularly easy but its not impossible and its definitely manageable

[hasty hull]

Have you tried it with a small sensor webcam tho

[coarse aspen]

just dont use a barlow until you find it

[hasty hull]

It’s not an issue with finding it

It’s the sensitivity

Takes lots of patience and precision

[coarse aspen]

most issues i hear/have are it going out of view and having to refind it

[hasty hull]

Yes

It’s not like I’m gonna take the Barlow out every time it drifts away tho

[coarse aspen]

i like to press down on the dob base it allows you to move it very slightly on the azimuth

just carefully press down and then rotate dob from there

[hasty hull]

Hmmm sounds neat

[coarse aspen]

it allows you to get really slow controls

compared to just grabbing the dob by the telescope

[fading plume]

Pretty easy if you have diy skill and good engineering knowledge

[fading plume]

This is why you have a perfectly aligned finder

[fading plume]

I was going to motorise my dob but then opted to make the base from scratch. Currently in the design phase.

[obtuse yew]

I'm actually an electrical engineering student and have a lot of diy experience

[fading plume]

Oh very nice

[obtuse yew]

I'm thinking about building a 20 inch dob, so I'd also be building the base. Have you found any good plans online for tracking?

[fading plume]

I’m hoping to do electrical engineering too

[fading plume]

I haven’t no. I used a friction drive in my design

Go to #welcome_and_roles and give yourself the diy role. Then search for stuff from me. You’ll see my images.

[near quiver]

let me know, i might "borrow" your design

[fading plume]

It’s still in development but I almost have a clean design

[near quiver]

that is a very unique design, i like it

[obtuse yew]

Bro this is sooooo sick

And the angle of that base matches your latitude?

Or is it just 45°

[fading plume]

it matches my latitude, -33

ill have small screws to dial it in

[near quiver]

i need to learn cad

theyre all so expensive tho

[fading plume]

my biggest issue so far is the declination wheel. Its overcomplicated

[fading plume]

are you a student?

[near quiver]

homeschooled, does that count

[fading plume]

ahh, yeah i had that problem too lol

it used to work.

you could have applied for an inventor student license

[near quiver]

aight next year im starting dual enrollment at a community college anyway, that should be enough

[fading plume]

if you contact support you might be able to get it.

[fading plume]

oh yeah for sure.

[near quiver]

for now i just have to work with pencil and paper, its fine tho good skill to have anyway

[jaunty flame]

How bad would eyepiece projection be with a decent eyepiece?

(Tv radian 10mm or baader 3.5mm)

[lunar hamlet]

Could some one put this vid through Pipp and autostakkert to see if they can figure out the problem, because when I do it, it only gives me one frame when coming out of Pipp

[normal forge]

pipp works fine. i tried.

[somber stratus]

Phobos over 4 minutes

[lunar hamlet]

With the vid I sent?

Cuz it ain’t working here

[near quiver]

youre probably using weird settings

if you set the preset to full disc it makes the output a tif instead of an avi

[somber stratus]

New process method, or rather different approach/feel.

thoughts?

[near quiver]

i like it, why is the surface so much sharper than the poles?

[somber stratus]

probs an effect of 3x drizzle i was playing around with, but i was more trying to go for a different colour

result: 3x drizzle doesnt work well unless you're undersampled to begin with

actually introduces ringing at the edges

[near quiver]

Interesting

[limpid reef]

very sharp very nice

[sharp ridge]

[obtuse yew]

Very natural looking features and not over sharpened. Would probably look incredible at 1.5x drizzle

Btw guys I use 1.5x drizzle every single time...is there any reason not to? Is there any situation where it's best not to use drizzle at all?

[wispy pagoda]

Drizzle can create artefacts so if you see some don't do it

I never noticed a big difference between no drizzle and resize after, and drizzle

[plush sonnet]

onstep is the best bet?

[wispy pagoda]

Even with a small sensor it's doable

[obtuse yew]

How many alignment points do you guys like on Mars?

[cursive inlet]

Depends on your image size and quality, so you kind of evaluate it by yourself, think of the ap points like regions of alignment, for example on Jupiter, a spot or a small storm is an ap, so just pick one of the preset sizes and look for yourself, if you cant see the planet itself anymore then you set the size too small. Tbh, this doesn’t even really matter that much, it will probably work anyway no matter how many you set. When I used to do planetary with my phone I used to notice artifacts if I set too many, but apart from that anything should work. Just make sure to use pipp to center you target and crop your video so AutoStakkert has an easier time doing its magic.

[near quiver]

i still have to use my phone for a camera so i use 1

[main flume]

Saturn

[heavy mirage]

Not bad seeing tonight, single frame. Transparency is an issue though

[heavy mirage]

Quick process of a single stack, second photo is stretched to show moons. Don't have enough time to process the rest and de-rotate, but soon.

[fossil schooner]

wow

[heavy mirage]

One more because procrastination

[topaz elk]

is seeing better in the winter?

because for me so far it hasn't been that way

[coarse aspen]

depends where you live

where i live its literally cloudy all winter so seeing is bad obviously

[topaz elk]

its clear and i have a high pressure right now

weather telling me to finish processing what i have and stop procrastinating

[sharp ridge]

Noiiicceee

[hasty hull]

Nope, jet stream seems to be really active during winter

[sharp ridge]

Absolutely not seeing is shit in winter

[topaz elk]

anyone know what the weird debayering around the image is?

stacked with autostakkert

most prominent on the right

[hasty hull]

I get that with solar/lunar a lot

It is strange

and idk what it is tbh

[sharp ridge]

The fov moved around a bit i assume just crop it out

[topaz elk]

hm i see

[hasty hull]

Makes sense for a dob

[topaz elk]

my science teacher shared my images for the freshmen

[hasty hull]

That’s v cool

[topaz elk]

yeah

[hasty hull]

I show my biology teacher my pics, she thinks it’s pretty neat

[topaz elk]

yeah planetary should be in everyone's bucket list

[hasty hull]

Looks rly good nice job

[sharp ridge]

[ruby tartan]

👌

[obtuse yew]

If I use an eyepiece to tune my ADC, and then insert the camera and refocus, will the ADC setting still be correct?

[topaz elk]

why not just do it with the camera?

[obtuse yew]

I don't have tracking. Would be incredibly difficult with the amount of magnification I use

[topaz elk]

manually track it?

how much mag

whats FL and barlow

[obtuse yew]

1250mm 3x barlow

[topaz elk]

what camera

[obtuse yew]

I honestly have trouble keeping it manually tracked and getting satisfactory focus. Couldn't imagine also dialing in my ADC

I use an ASI385mc

[topaz elk]

yeah idk if 3x is a good choice for untracked

[obtuse yew]

Is there a reason besides just not having a large enough field of view to let it drift across for a long time?

Right now I basically need to re aim it every 15 seconds

[topaz elk]

its more brighter

so you can use a lower gain to get less grain

[obtuse yew]

Makes sense

I honestly don't think my gain has been an issue, even with short exposure times

The 385 does also have larger pixels

[topaz elk]

shooting saturn for me at 2x barlow and 8" dobsonian is the limit on the max gain and 13ms

if i go higher gain it gets all grainy in my data

but again im shooting with an ASI178MC

[obtuse yew]

And I'm using a 10 inch dob

[topaz elk]

44% more light if my math is correct for 2x barlow vs 3x barlow

[somber stratus]

Some Mars data in #1021002743080558642 #1043615455560085524 message

[ruby tartan]

Very hard to capture any of the moons and mars with an 8"

[ruby tartan]

Jupiter last night, horrible seeing (1-2/5), Color and IR685

[ruby tartan]

Mars and Phobos. color and ir685

[topaz elk]

wanted to go for a softer look

[near quiver]

terrible seeing, but promising results with my cheap old 3x

[fossil schooner]

mers

[near quiver]

by far my best takes on mars and jupiter, 8 inch dobsonian, iphone x

[near quiver]

much better process of mars

im a little ashamed of the old one, but i did that in 15 minutes before i had to go to school so whatever

[obtuse yew]

I just had a thought, wouldn't derotation on Mars cause artifacts that aren't present when doing a planet like Jupiter because of the fact that over the course of a Mars day, the sun will be hitting at different angles and cause shadows in different spots? Maybe this would only be a problem on large structures like Olympus Mons and Valles Marineris

[topaz elk]

derotation is within a minute period of time

not over several days

plus most amateur telescopes wouldn't show too much artifacts anyway because it's at a low FL

[near quiver]

@bitter elbow i dont suppose you know how to fix this artifact

pipp > autostakkert > registax

thats obviously a slightly overcooked version but its visible with any sharpening

[bitter elbow]

It can be excessive sharpening, or gain set too low.

[near quiver]

is gain a camera thing or a processing thing?

shoot i googled and its a camera thing

the god seeing is slightly wasted

does anybody know a technique to help get rid of it?

nevermind i figured out something that works

[topaz elk]

what's this camera shot with

[near quiver]

iphone x "telephoto" camera

[topaz elk]

yeah thats compression

[near quiver]

yeah im pretty sure ive narrowed it down to having my iso way too low

[topaz elk]

no it's compression

[near quiver]

i used a selective gaussian blur to mostly fix it but i definitely lost detail :(

[near quiver]

i think the low iso caused that

i could be wrong though

[topaz elk]

that's the exact compression i get with my dslr camera with compression

[near quiver]

i mean im using a phone im clearly not that experienced

[topaz elk]

the same pattern with the dip in the red band

it's not low ISO

[near quiver]

ok youre probably right then

whatever happened im sad that i lost some detail, but its still my best image by far so ill take it

[topaz elk]

yeah it's good nonetheless

[near quiver]

unfortunately i have a giant fringe on the right side and im not sure how to get rid of it without just painting it out

idk if fringe is the right term, just a big white band

[topaz elk]

i think its called ringing

[near quiver]

oh ok

wait is that what the de-ringing setting in registax is for

yeah i tried it that makes sense

[near quiver]

phobos is next, try to stop me

[fossil schooner]

Mer and Jup again

[fossil schooner]

also can anyone recommend good 2 and 3 times barlows at less than 100 bucks a piece? wanna upgrade to see if it helps with my planetary and visual

and a color camera that can do planetary and dsos because i kinda want to upgrade from my cheap dslr

[sharp ridge]

Phobos 😳

X to doubt

[somber stratus]

lol

Yeah not sure about that one chief

[barren dune]

@somber stratus field rotation doesnt matter fpr planets

[somber stratus]

what

is that a question or a statement

[barren dune]

Field rotation is not an issue for planetary imaging

[somber stratus]

and it does matter, esp if the target is due south near meridian crossing

and high altitude

limits recordings to 2m or so

typically

[coarse aspen]

cant field rotation be corrected

[somber stratus]

yes in post processing

[topaz elk]

its even worse if you are doing alt az

[somber stratus]

It happens because of alt-az. EQ setups don’t get field rotation

Almost by definition

[topaz elk]

yeah

[knotty salmon]

toast

[hasty hull]

fr

[near quiver]

Tonight (weather permitting) is going to be my first time shooting with a proper astronomy camera. How the heck do I figure out what settings to use?

[topaz elk]

exposure time based on seeing, i go around 10ms usually if you wanna be safe first time. Make sure High Speed mode is on in FireCapture, set gain so that the max in the histogram is around 60-80% and not too grainy, make sure to use ROI and auto center in FireCapture. Cut-out is also useful for saving space

[near quiver]

Thanks. I really hope I get the chance to image tonight because if I don’t it won’t be clear until Monday

It’s set to be partially cloudy but if any discipline of ap is cloud tolerant it’s planetary so we’ll see what happens

[ruby tartan]

Perfect seeing today

[topaz elk]

great seeing

[ruby tartan]

100ms

[near quiver]

Jesus, is that a single sub?

[ruby tartan]

150 frames stack

[near quiver]

Dang that’s still crazy

[ruby tartan]

I discovered a new de-rotation method, it greatly improves the sharpness and timeliness of the image

The difference (Edge of the planet)

Same sharp for both images

[somber stratus]

wdym new method

this? @ruby tartan

[ruby tartan]

No, first you de-rotate the video, stack and de-rotate the stacked images

[somber stratus]

how do you derotate a video?

[somber stratus]

hmm

interesting

i mean i have field rotation so its probably quite scuffed

[ruby tartan]

No problem

[ruby tartan]

For better result enable first and third option

[cursive inlet]

Where's the highspeed mode option in firecapture? Can't find it anywhere.

[ebon sage]

under the "more" option

[near quiver]

after an hour of trying to figure out how to fit my video file onto a drive, i finally remembered that i could just zip it

preview looks excellent, i cant wait to see the result

[near quiver]

love this camera.

accidentally messed up one very obvious chunk of the planet, ill probably reprocess and fix tomorrow

i feel like i can get so much more out of the camera, just have to work for it

[topaz elk]

Do you choose the second option?

[ruby tartan]

no, i use an eq5, i don't need it

[cursive inlet]

Can you send a screenshot I can’t find it.

[ruby tartan]

Last night images

[topaz elk]

@ruby tartan do you use despeckle?

[ruby tartan]

I use Gaussian blur in photoshop

[wispy pagoda]

Why's that?

[ruby tartan]

I like to merge it with remove blemishes in photoshop, it removes noise well and I can use more sharp

[near quiver]

Why does the north equatorial belt on Jupiter always come out purple in my images

No matter what I do it looks like a damn eggplant

[obtuse yew]

Emailed Topaz Labs about wanting to purchase Denoise 6 classic rather than the new Denoise AI they offer and I was given a free license key. Figured I should let you guys know

[near quiver]

Somebody pin this lol, I might have to try

[topaz elk]

dusty moon

trees blocking

[molten kettle]

Just un-tree

[near quiver]

which is better?

1

2

3

4

i mean 4 is obviously best, so just ignore 4

[wispy pagoda]

Probably 1

Because of the great red spot

[somber stratus]

how are the colours so different on each of them

[near quiver]

My bad processing

[coarse aspen]

@near quiver i am a better processor

clearly

[near quiver]

Yup

[coarse aspen]

36632

AP

you'll never defeat me

100,301 AP

[near quiver]

That so unnecessary

I use like 5 for planetary

[coarse aspen]

It is necessary

The guy in the video said more ap is more detail

[near quiver]

You do you

That might be true for deep sky, I’ve never tried anything other than dss for that

[coarse aspen]

lol im joking

[near quiver]

Ok good

[coarse aspen]

the result

[near quiver]

I was thinking that having ap on the background is just trying to align it with noise

[coarse aspen]

not my image

[near quiver]

Oh I see it’s lunar

Actually that kind of makes sense for lunar but that still seems like way too many

[coarse aspen]

@charred dagger

his image

[charred dagger]

I almost prefer to have no credit at how cooked it is

[coarse aspen]

he has a weird artifact after stacking which i tried to help fix but at this point i dont know what to do

[charred dagger]

IN PROGRESS TO FIXING MAYBE

not even 100k aps could fix it

[coarse aspen]

1 million aps

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-avengers-gif-14003260

[charred dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-computer-crash-meme-help-complamation-gif-20724408

https://tenor.com/view/discoholic-disco-dance-dance-moves-funk-gif-20240251

[coarse aspen]

careful of gif spam

[charred dagger]

sorryyy

[near quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/john-mulaney-mulaney-new-in-town-im-sorry-gif-12975551

[wispy pagoda]

That may be not enough though

[near quiver]

I usually use 5-10 for phone imaging, now that I have my new camera I use more

[coarse aspen]

i un ironically only use 1 ap

if you use several you get square artifacts

[hasty hull]

Depends on the resolution of the data

[wispy pagoda]

Yeah of course

[azure zealot]

I can never seem to get Saturn right

My Jupiter pictures always turn out great

It I don’t know what I’m doing wrong with Saturn

[near quiver]

I would guess it s because Saturn is much lower in the sky than Jupiter. Next summer/fall when it’s higher you can probably get much better images.

[azure zealot]

Could it be out of focus?

Or am I over exposing it

[near quiver]

It does potentially look slightly out of focus, but I don’t think you’re overexposing. I would like to see the .tif for one of the Saturn images if you still have it

[azure zealot]

I use a bahtinov mask for Jupiter so would suspect Saturn would be also in focus

[near quiver]

Strange. I really do think that Saturn is just too low. The lower an object is in the sky, the worse the seeing is

[azure zealot]

Tomorrow looks like it’s gonna be a clear night. Instead of using a Barlow lense I’m going to plug it straight into the telescope. Reasoning is, even tho it’s way smaller. I can lower the ISO cause it’s brighter. I can record longer videos. And it helps with focusing

[near quiver]

I would also recommend that you shoot as early as you can (like as soon as you can see it) because the lower it is the worse.

[azure zealot]

Yeah. I’m usually out as soon as I can see stars

[near quiver]

I would recommend even earlier than that. After subset, but before it’s actually dark will be best.

[azure zealot]

Ok

[azure zealot]

recording Saturn right now

Workin through clouds

[near quiver]

Good luck

[azure zealot]

Thanks

[azure zealot]

Was able to get some videos before more clouds rolled in. Also got some lunar data and imma see what I can get with that

[near quiver]

Nice

[fossil schooner]

Is that the 12”?

[topaz elk]

8"

[fossil schooner]

Oh

Looks like a twelve from that angle

[lunar hamlet]

@near quiver here’s my newest Jupiter pic, tell me if you want the vid

[near quiver]

Nice

[lunar hamlet]

Oh and here’s mars, it’s a bit out of focus because it was super hard getting it in frame for long anought to focus well

[bleak oak]

Did you sharpen this image?

[near quiver]

@onyx garnet you don’t have to use threads here, also you literally can’t

[onyx garnet]

Alr. And to the people who reacted, I seriously don't understand why you are laughing at someone who made a mistake but hey, people suck at random stuff, it is what it is

[fading plume]

The threads please stuff is stupid.
Long ago the comments and gallery channels lived together in harmony, then everything changed when the threads please nation attacked.

[lunar hamlet]

Planet

[cursive inlet]

yes planet

[hasty hull]

truth

[cloud copper]

what do you guys think?

[charred dagger]

whats with the sides

[cloud copper]

happend in stacking

I have a non motorised mount

[charred dagger]

ohh fair enough

[cloud copper]

yea

what do you think ?

[charred dagger]

looks decent tbf, what focal length and cam?

[cloud copper]

f=1400 and a bresser mikro ocular

[charred dagger]

so effective fl of 8400mm??

What scope is it

@cloud copper

[cloud copper]

its a seben 150/1400

[charred dagger]

jeez so yeah effective focal range of 8400mm

roughly

it's more like 9000

8600 to be exact, my bad

[cloud copper]

is that good?

[charred dagger]

It's really high, for planets it's good tho

Like on a normal scope - redcat 51 for example for dss- it's 350mm more or less

and you have 25 times that

lmao

[cloud copper]

oh, ok. I have got this image of jupiter but I'm not realy happy with the results, I think it is a bad image for such a telescope

is was taken with the same setup

@charred dagger What do you think

[charred dagger]

Looks pretty good imo

this is what you should be able to see in yours

so it'll be low res but in stacking should help, albeit for planets you're not going to get high res

[cloud copper]

Ik but there is such little surface details

I should be able to see a little more

[charred dagger]

my bad

[cloud copper]

I think I should upgrade my cam to a svbony sv205

[charred dagger]

this is what you should see

[cloud copper]

yea

[charred dagger]

This was at 300mm

[charred dagger]

this is 1400mm

[cloud copper]

I see it smaller

[charred dagger]

remember this is the whole sensor

[charred dagger]

this was 250x250px

[cloud copper]

oh

[charred dagger]

Install stellarium and use that to check stuff out

[cloud copper]

should I upgrade to a sv205?

[hasty hull]

A composite of my best 2022 pics

[cloud copper]

@charred dagger

[hasty hull]

What’s ur current cam

[charred dagger]

I think this is right

[charred dagger]

bresser mikro ocular

[cloud copper]

yea

[hasty hull]

Hmm never heard of that

[charred dagger]

lmfao

[cloud copper]

its a cheap cam

[charred dagger]

it's 1920/1080

[hasty hull]

What sensor

[charred dagger]

it doesn't say, lemme check

just cmos

[cloud copper]

should I ?

[charred dagger]

I mean ig you could

[hasty hull]

What’s your budget?

[cloud copper]

around 100$

[hasty hull]

Ah ok

The sv205 is locked at 30fps at max res

So unless you are tracked, it will be a struggle

[cloud copper]

ok, ant other cameras?

[hasty hull]

This is $150, but a good option https://player-one-astronomy.com/product/ceres-c-usb3-0-color-camera-imx224/

[cloud copper]

any other a bit cheaper?

@hasty hull ?

[hasty hull]

Oh my bad, uh what Focal Length are you gonna be working at?

[cloud copper]

1400

what about the sv305

[hasty hull]

I used that one for a bit

It has a max of 23fps at max res, unless you go for the pro version which is $150

It was a decent cam other than the fps

[cloud copper]

can you show me some pics

on the website says 130 FPS

[hasty hull]

These were with my 6” dob at 3600mm

[cloud copper]

wow, I have a 6" with 1400 mm

Is it going to look that good?

[hasty hull]

Yeah it’s a bit misleading, that’s if you crop it down to a super small area of the sensor

And then your object will only stay in view for a few seconds

And it’s a nightmare to hand track

[cloud copper]

oh

[hasty hull]

I used a 3x Barlow for those, so if you get a magnifier you’ll be able to get that kind of resolution

Here are some pics at 1200mm

[cloud copper]

they look great!

[hasty hull]

Ty :) yeah if you are willing to work at 30fps untracked, then the sv205 isn’t a bad option

It’ll take a while to get used to tho

At 1200mm it was pretty manageable actually, stuff stayed in view for like 30s

[coarse aspen]

what do you have now

sv105?

[cloud copper]

I'm working the same with my cam but it takes bad pics

[cloud copper]

bresser mikro ocular XD

[coarse aspen]

poh

[cloud copper]

thsts nice

[coarse aspen]

you could get a player one Ceres C for $150, its IMX 224

[cloud copper]

yea but is out of my buget

[coarse aspen]

your budget is $100?

[cloud copper]

yes

[coarse aspen]

if you are able to save up for a ceres C you should

can record at 154fps compared to SV205's 30fps

[cloud copper]

I am but my parents wont let me buy it even if i had the money XD

[coarse aspen]

sad

[cloud copper]

yea so I think sv305 is the best option I have

[coarse aspen]

sv305?

[cloud copper]

yes

[coarse aspen]

sv305 is $150 though?

[hasty hull]

The pro version is

[cloud copper]

yea

the pro version

[hasty hull]

Wait

[cloud copper]

here it is 100$

[hasty hull]

Oh the pro version is on sale

[coarse aspen]

Wait are we talking in USD

I'm speaking USD rn

[hasty hull]

better screenshot lol

[coarse aspen]

wait you can buy off svbony website?

thought they only sold on amazon

[cloud copper]

I was thinking that 800 ron was 100$ lol

but then why is the ceres c more expensive on aliexpress than amazon ?

oh then I will buy the ceres c

[coarse aspen]

Ceres C?

https://player-one-astronomy.com/product/ceres-c-usb3-0-color-camera-imx224/

[cloud copper]

yes

[coarse aspen]

Ok

[near quiver]

If you use a super long focal length how hard would it be to constantly track? At shorter focal length you can correct it and wait, but I’m wondering if anybody does a constant tracking thing and how hard it is

[obtuse yew]

Not sure specifically what you're asking, I use a 3750mm focal length on my 10 inch manual dob and I have to re aim the scope every 15 seconds or so. I definitely couldn't move up any higher than a 3x Barlow without tracking. Also you never want to "constantly track" by hand if I'm understanding you correctly. You want to allow the planet to drift across the sensor. If you're touching the scope in any way it's going to add vibrations and mess up your data

[near quiver]

Yeah that’s kinda what I thought

[hasty hull]

I’ve been able to hand track at 3600mm for about a minute, just constantly slightly pushing the scope a little bit

[near quiver]

@somber stratus would you mind trying to take an image of Jupiter with your phone lol? I know it’s a weird request but I’m interested to see how far skill would go (and also what a phone camera would do with a 16 inch dob)

[fading plume]

webcam is better

[near quiver]

Yes I know that

But I think it would be funny to see a phone on a 16 inch dob

[coarse aspen]

I'm telling you

The phone starts bottle neck at 4" of aperture

[somber stratus]

Some random phone footage I got

But regarding your question there isn’t much skill involved beside 1) collimation and 2) giving sufficiently enough cool-down time to allow the mirrors to reach ambient temperature.

[near quiver]

Thanks!

[bleak oak]

Biggest skill in astronomy is being patient for good seeing/ weather

[ebon sage]

And having money

[bleak oak]

When your patient sometimes there are really cheap offers (got a 16*dob free) But year your right especially everything that has electronics is damn expensive. And filters and apos.

[hasty hull]

bruh free 16” dob

[bleak oak]

Yeah but the rocker box is destroyed and the mirrors reflecting surfaces are full of holes

[hasty hull]

[cloud copper]

I got this pic from your video

any tips?

[somber stratus]

no idea, havent tried it myself

looks good tho

it is a compressed video

so you'll have artefacts

[lunar hamlet]

Neptune

[fading plume]

X to doubt

[ebon sage]

Noise ?

[lunar hamlet]

Maybe, but after having a little bit of fun trying to make it like more blue, it does turn blue( with out changing the colours)

[fading plume]

so does colour noise

[lunar hamlet]

Maybe

[lunar hamlet]

Or what about the star looking thing under it?

[near quiver]

What time was the picture taken?

[near quiver]

missing the entire mars occultation and also opposition because of clouds

[cursive inlet]

fr it just wont stop snowing

[wispy pagoda]

Yep same here :/

[main flume]

Hello

[obtuse yew]

Also missing the occultation from my location. Real shame but luckily the next 2 nights look clear so I'll end up getting some nice close Mars captures

[topaz elk]

cloudssssssssssssssss

excuse for me to sleep in

[sharp ridge]

tharsis region little experimenting with maps

[ruby tartan]

@somber stratus Immediately send your occultation images to NASA APOD

[fading plume]

Yes this

[somber stratus]

They never see any of mine. Can someone link me the actual submission page

i sent emails before but none gets read pretty sure

[ruby tartan]

I never sent it, but on their website it should teach

[somber stratus]

yeah it's a mainto link with emails of the judges

[somber stratus]

submitted

email & here https://www.flickr.com/groups/apods/

[indigo oak]

holy hell i've just seen your picture

very impressive

Couldn't have been fun in this weather though

[somber stratus]

Yeah got down to -6C locally

Worth it though

[ebon sage]

Sheesh…

[nova delta]

mars at 750mm focal length

[near quiver]

Debayer or something

[ruby tartan]

@somber stratus, your image is already circulating here in Brazil

I think you will win apod in the next few days

[fading plume]

wait till the watermark gets removed and someone else sends it in

[near quiver]

Somehow I never noticed that apod was community submitted, new life goal added

[somber stratus]

@ruby tartan Nah, I know that Tom Glenn will get APOD tomorrow for his image. The guys on APOD discord told me (thinking I was T Glenn) for my location and that I had got it. Later discovered they confused me with T Glenn instead

unfortunate but it is what it is

All for 5 seconds I thought

[fading plume]

[near quiver]

That’s gotta hurt

It had to be another Tom too

[fading plume]

get it the day after then

guess two images in a row wont work

[somber stratus]

Yup

[fading plume]

what was his image?

[somber stratus]

Same event

He submitted earlier bc it happened earlier in the USA

I didn’t process fast enough ig

[fading plume]

missed apod because living in UK ☠️

[somber stratus]

Skill issue

[somber stratus]

Or they thought his was better which is equally valid. It’s a good shot

[fading plume]

you might get IOTD on astrobin a lot.

[somber stratus]

The guy has 4 to his name though so that’s added salt to the wound

[somber stratus]

Don’t have AB

[near quiver]

Did your Orion get apod LMC? It should have if it didn’t

[fading plume]

i didnt submit it

[near quiver]

You should

[fading plume]

i need more data

[near quiver]

No you do not

But if you want it go for it

[fading plume]

i can see noise

[near quiver]

Here’s mine, 0 noise

[fading plume]

apod

[near quiver]

Yes it is 100% apod worthy

[fading plume]

does apod like saturation?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/193084611@N06/52538810817/in/pool-apods/
hm

[near quiver]

No idea, I only remember to check it a few times a month

[fossil schooner]

@somber stratus THEY USED YOUR IMAGE!!1

[near quiver]

That’s not his

[fossil schooner]

it was tom glenn

is that his name

or am i stupid

[near quiver]

Nope

Different Tom

[fossil schooner]

TOM THEY DID NOT USE YOUR IMAGE!!!!11

[near quiver]

He mentioned that it was going to be Glenn earlier in the thread

[fossil schooner]

i am sorry for the false sense of hope

[fading plume]

toms was far better

the real tom. hof tom

like bruh, apod is ass

[fossil schooner]

true

[ebon sage]

Apod=moon zoomed in and grainy=win

[coarse aspen]

tom's was a lot better i agree

10x better

much sharper and i like how it appears on the horizon of the moon better

better edited

[frozen root]

trash

[fading plume]

this was apod

[frozen root]

death

[fading plume]

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1404/m42_HLAvillaverde_2235.jpg
like

wait this is planetary what

[wispy pagoda]

The processing is...

A bit violent

[wispy pagoda]

...

Tim your's is far better

Don't be humble

You deserved it

[fading plume]

tom didnt get apod

another guy with a worse image did

[ebon sage]

...

[fading plume]

he didnt get apod because hes from the UK

[ebon sage]

yeah toms is better

[wispy pagoda]

Yes I know, I meant "you deserved it" as you should have won

[ebon sage]

less grainy and sharper

[fading plume]

i didnt image it? confusion 100

[wispy pagoda]

It's sad

[wispy pagoda]

Nevermind lol

I don't know how to speak

Tom should have won apod.

[fading plume]

the real tom yes, not the american imposter tom

[ebon sage]

wouldny even compare that much tbh

tom just gets unmatched sharpness

[wispy pagoda]

He's in French newspapers too!

But why they put the quick process and not the final one...

[fading plume]

[fading plume]

whats it saying?

[wispy pagoda]

Btw I have some data on the opposition! I need to process it but anyway it won't be great... I took the pictures behind clouds, fog, dew on my scope

[wispy pagoda]

Nothing really special

Just explaining the phenomena to people and showing a few pics

[fading plume]

toms very brief 100 frame stack is better than the apod

[wispy pagoda]

Quick process of the "data" from yesterday

[wispy pagoda]

Better process

I'm surprised it isnt worse

Clouds were thin enough I guess

Reminds me of this

[indigo oak]

Looks like a MySpace background

With blingee effects applied

[nova delta]

yeah...

[lunar hamlet]

Wait that’s apod?

[nova delta]

no, that's toms image

[lunar hamlet]

And top is apod?

[nova delta]

yes

[lunar hamlet]

toms is much better

[ruby tartan]

@somber stratus I have access to the most recent hubble files, this guy's saturn image has more detailed rings than the hubble one

[somber stratus]

big funny

doubles down and refuses to agree with Chris Go. He actually sent an email to Chris explaining that he felt he wasn't in the wrong. Crazy

[sharp ridge]

[near quiver]

Wait what are people mad about

[ruby tartan]

You do not know?

[near quiver]

No I’ve never seen this

[ruby tartan]

The creator of this image says it was made with a 12" with "new" processing methods 😂

Hubble image

[near quiver]

Ah yeah that looks wrong

Wait so did he just take the Hubble image and say it was his?

[ruby tartan]

No, I believe he took the rings from hubble's image and merged them with his

[sharp ridge]

Think he actually took a slice of the rings and spread it 360 or smth, the noise becomes the "fine detail"

not sure tho

[near quiver]

That’s actually really funny

[somber stratus]

yeah that twitter thread of mine that Chris linked explains it briefly

its not merged with hubble data

[normal forge]

cant wait for your results mate!

[topaz elk]

dang its alresdy up in england?

[coarse aspen]

For the US it's up basically as soon as it's dark

[somber stratus]

Static image 🔥

9.5-10

[hasty hull]

[lunar hamlet]

It’s bad but it’s mars

[weary jungle]

That’s just insane could be your best so far you think?

[topaz elk]

really nice stitch

[charred dagger]

oooh thats 10/10 imo

That crater is so perfect

what focal length and camera?

[topaz elk]

2400mm FL and asi178mc

little bit bigger?

or i could just use no barlow

[near quiver]

Tom getting the god seeing meanwhile the entire Eastern third of the us is covered in clouds

Jokes aside can’t wait to see that image

[normal forge]

Sunday/Monday night and Monday/Tuesday night would been the first nights with clear sky for months -> now its clouds for next 8 days xD i give up

[somber stratus]

Briefly processed timelapse. literally just sharpened. Flickering is due to dew formation.

[ruby tartan]

Dahn

[sharp ridge]

Now I know where my seeing went cuz this entire week the seeing here is extremely poor

[ebon sage]

what does ur extremely poor seeing look like ?

[hasty hull]

not good

[ebon sage]

literally my perfect seeing is that

[hasty hull]

Send sample

[ebon sage]

dont have a rW vid

*raw

dont have the space for it :/

[hasty hull]

Did it look like that when you took these

[ebon sage]

pretty much yeah

ive got alt on my side tho

[hasty hull]

True

[warm bay]

What's this for

[near quiver]

Mars

[knotty salmon]

what's that?

[frozen root]

mars

[knotty salmon]

pog

[obtuse yew]

You gotta make more animations, this is nutty

Good to know your Mars stacks likewise start out with that yellow tint to them. I still haven't figured out how to get nice natural color like you have in your finals

[somber stratus]

@ruby tartan inner detail in the NP Hood?

the bright dot at right, within the hood.

this was OSC

[ruby tartan]

Is this uranus?

[somber stratus]

correct

north at right

processing IR data now

see if it shows there too

[near quiver]

that looks like detail

its barely visible but i see it

[somber stratus]

this is only a single stack, could be large scale noise

gunna see what the IR is saying

[near quiver]

that would be unfortunate

[somber stratus]

Ariel & Miranda

just about

[ruby tartan]

I think the only detail there is the polar hood

[near quiver]

nutter

[ruby tartan]

Did you make more catches? it would be a good idea to de-rotate images of Uranus

[somber stratus]

thought so. Just it is possible to have extra belts. Thought it might be a little hood. Thats the north pole. I do have 5x IR captures

but only one OSC

fogged over

couldnt get more

[near quiver]

i am angry. on friday i was going to a party down the street and i brought my telescope, it was the only clear night in 2 weeks and it hasnt been clear since, and wont be for a few more days at least. i looked through and the seeing was unreal, but i was at a party and i didnt have my imaging stuff. by the time i got back my dad made me go to sleep

[undone iris]

Does anyone have any suggestions on what telescope to get to view Saturn and Jupiter

[near quiver]

8 inch dobsonian

[undone iris]

Ok thank you

[near quiver]

this one is my personal favorite, but i think you can only buy it in the united states https://www.highpointscientific.com/apertura-ad8-8-inch-dobsonian-telescope-ad8?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=11280687103&utm_content=108998199965&utm_term=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9Wbz4Hy-wIVSVtyCh380AKlEAAYASAAEgJ8L_D_BwE

[undone iris]

Oh I live in the uk

[near quiver]

ok you can find very similar telescopes then, just not that specific one

[thick heron]

What happens after three years of having plenty of time to capture but not nearly enough time to process.

[ruby tartan]

If you want, I can help you.

[near quiver]

I can also do some but it wouldn’t be great

[coarse aspen]

@river hornet he has more data than you

[river hornet]

wrong

[coarse aspen]

what

[river hornet]

I must prove