kuki-theorycrafting

[subtle finch]

but then you remember her standard icd and she cant even spam intensified for particles

plz remove the fucking icd

[shrewd crescent]

Too late now

[subtle finch]

wasnt kokos icd removed after beta ended?

[lament cargo]

I think so but I'm not sure

I think it might've been her last change before the beta ended

[shrewd crescent]

Potentially but why would Hoyoverse care about a 4 star when they can just make a 5 star that does what you wanted the 4 star equivalent to do?

[tawdry bone]

Koko is a 5star

[subtle finch]

make Kuki to a sell a 5 star Kuki in the future

[shrewd crescent]

Not out of the realm of possibility

[lament cargo]

Scaramouche = 5* kuki

actual sub dps with healing and electro app

[shrewd crescent]

Imagine if that actually happened

[lament cargo]

That's a win for me

[shrewd crescent]

Wait this is kuki tc

Wtf

I thought this was tc lounge

[grand willow]

kuki standard icd should be 3s so its not that bad

in practice its probably about the same as raiden shogun E

the real questios is if intensify particle gen is going to have an icd of its own or if spamming it vs a big pack is just gonna be infinite particles

im guess it'll probably be one particle max per trigger kinda like how swirl can only hit twice

but that's still potential for a lot of particles if you have fast dendro application on top of an electro absorbtion

[gilded pendant]

wait so freedom sword would be an ok choice for kuki?

cow somone needs to use it, its anoying me when its just existing and her em scaling might be good with it

[lament cargo]

yes it would be an option for her

[gilded pendant]

ah finaly

great ty

[supple oriole]

I doubt mhy is that generous

[grand willow]

well they also dont really beta test that well lol

they may end up having to nerf it later

[tired berry]

Apparently intensify already got nerfed, I’m wondering if it was longer than 7s or the actual damage

[main bay]

Who knows. It shouldnt be too much longer until we get some anctual information

Just gotta chill and wait for info

[plush mirage]

We still need to see if there's any dendro aura applicator worth bringing anyway

Way too early to be speculating how good is dendro for kuki

[tawdry bone]

Does HP benefit Kuki in anyway other than increasing her healing and her max health overall ?

Like Damage?

[hollow cairn]

her burst scales off hp

[tawdry bone]

Well Ik she does more damage at low health

[tawdry bone]

Is that directed to the low health statement or does her burst actually scale on HP ?

[hollow cairn]

it scales solely off hp yeah

instead of atk

[tawdry bone]

Is 352 enough EM for Kuki ?

[cold pumice]

THat is 352 too much

[unique sphinx]

It depends on what you want and what your other stats are

[tawdry bone]

Wait is 352 actually to much ?

Or is it considered a lot

[cold pumice]

Do you want damage or healing

Cos either way, em doesn't contribute much

[tawdry bone]

Doesn’t EM increase both her healing and damage ?

[cold pumice]

Barely

EM will increase you damage, before mods by 6 damge if you high roll, and your healing by 18

A HP% roll will increase healing by 35

and a tick of burst by 42

A average roll of ATK% will increase your E damage by 15

again, before mods

And because its additive, not multiplicative, theres no threshold where it becomes better

A flat HP roll is like 12 damage on burst and 15 on heal, and a flat attack roll, is like 7 damage on E, like its actually competing with flat stats

[glossy reef]

Praying that special program shows it's a percentage of EM

[thorn badge]

kuki good pair with taser kokomi?

with the good uptime electro application

[brave rock]

but why would you want 2 healer?

[thorn badge]

i want a reliable electro enabler

also i want to play them both since i like them

or am i better off with fischl

[mental stag]

then Kuki is not the one for that .. her electro enabling is once per 3 sec not once every ticc of her ES

so using both of them litterally hurts ur team dps ... i mean both prefers ToTM .. one of them gonna loose the "buffer" capabilty .. nd both of them's worth is healing only (for their kit) .. nd 1 is enuf for that

Kokomi is a better enabler since she applies hydro once per ticc unlike Kuki

so .. either slap them to diff teams

or just dont use them both together

[thorn badge]

ah

which teams would benefit from totm kuki the most

i was thinking eula superconduct

[brave rock]

fischl/beidou/raiden are better

[brave rock]

only if you dont have raiden

[brave rock]

wrong message, i meant that one

[brave rock]

basically every team, that need more electro (or electro res), but also a healer, otherwise just fischl does the same (continous electro app + totm user) but more dmg

[crimson oasis]

So the beta closed with any changes to kuki since she was first put in the beta, huh?

She gonna suck 😵

[grand willow]

kuki is probably better with ayato taser than kokomi

since they're both AOE application and ayato is more likely to be close enough for the kuki aoe to hit

and kokomi doesnt benefit as much from having a second healer anyway

[keen sinew]

your better off using beidou or fish

[grand willow]

fish needs to be c6 and then you need another healer

[keen sinew]

Fish doesn't need to be c6

[grand willow]

beidou isnt that good for taser since her uptime is bad solo

[oak sorrel]

Question: I'm assuming Kuki solves some comp problems with Eula, no? She's a pipe dream for me but my thinking is if you can get SC and healing from one source (instead of being married to Fischl + Diona, let's say), then you can run more flexible team comps and sub DPS

[grand willow]

fish needs to be c6 if shes solo electro since otherwise she doesnt generate electro enough

[keen sinew]

doesn't solve just becomes another option for her

[grand willow]

her apps are all single target and she only reapplise if you can react fast enough

[oak sorrel]

yaya, fair -- I'm just thinking I'd much rather run Eula/Kuki/insert cryo sub DPS/X -- where X can be more of a flavor pick or even Fischl just for particles. You really don't need anemo on the team but you could run a grouper as well like Kazuha. Or sucrose for TTDS, etc

[grand willow]

i dont have eula but idk how much fish actually helps for her

she mostly just needs the superconduct i think

its probably either raiden shogun or kuki ideally

[oak sorrel]

fair -- my understanding is that Fischl is Eula's best pairing. But admittedly my research is lite on her because it's mostly just window shopping (since I don't have her)

[keen sinew]

Eula needs battery and superconduct proc

[grand willow]

sac bow diona is probalby fine for funneling but ayaka or ganyu probably work equally well for battery quickswap

fish does give pretty good electro particles but those are less efficient than the cryo sub anyway

[brave rock]

eulas best superconducter by far is raiden
and with that out of the way you just need battery + heal/shield, diona is insanely good for that role, cause she is both, so last can be flex, c6 ros is prob the best, unless you want to boost raidens dmg too, then kaz
and you can run fav or sac on diona, i prefer fav honestly

[keen sinew]

not every one has raiden

also raiden and fish are pretty much the same for superconduct

[brave rock]

yes, but it was more about the "fixing eula teams"

[grand willow]

raiden and fish arent the same lol

raiden buffs eula burst damage and her application is consistent and AOE

plus you can switch into raiden Q occasionally during downtimes

fish is single target electro and you cant aim the application

[brave rock]

and you have 100% uptime without any er issues

[grand willow]

fish is good for some specific roles but the shilling for her is getting out of hand lol

shes not that good

[brave rock]

obv its raiden > fischl, but she can work as substitute superconducter, doesnt change eula teams

[grand willow]

anyone can work as superconductor really

ideally you want someone with repeated ticks of it so you dont have to keep swapping

but beyond that you're mostly just looking at the tangential benefits

[brave rock]

nah, everyone else has downtime issues, fischl needs er to not have them and raiden just not has them at all

[grand willow]

hence why you might consider kuki shinobu in that comp for if you dont have raiden and/or want the healer slot covered

[brave rock]

you want diona tho, cause shield + heal > more healing (im not comparing battery vs superconducter, cause that will be your 3rd slot)
diona + fischl > kuki + cryo battery (prob c6 ros, but can still run her in the other comp)

[grand willow]

diona shield is w/e anyway

if you're running diona it's probably just so you can sac bow funnel

[brave rock]

no to both
eula has increased interuption res, not interuption immunity, shield still improves that + in general shield > heal, cause its unconditional health increase + helps against 1shots
im pretty sure sac diona isnt her best option, fav is better

[grand willow]

i dont actually have eula so idk how badly she actually needs the diona-level battery

but if the ER ends up being excessive you're losing out on a lot of damage by not just taking ayaka or something instead

[brave rock]

if you play hypercarry eula you need it, also ayaka ult will end up not hitting a lot, cause everything gets pushed around (or moves on its on) and you would end up with er issues on both eula and ayaka

[green dagger]

Acually, it seems that Eula has infinite resistance to interuption during her Q

[grand willow]

the value of interrupt resistance is MU-dependent and there isnt that much in the game that actually one-shots you

[brave rock]

nope, i got knocked back in her ult

[grand willow]

im trying to think whats an actual one-shot tbh

theres a few things that hurt if you just ignore them and let them hit you repeatedly

like maguu kenki battousai waves

[brave rock]

double lector explosion, primo geovishap if you dont have shield

also you want to just attack during eula ult to have more stacks, dashing will hurt your dmg

[grand willow]

but the 5-6k shield probably wont save you in those cases either

even zhongli shield is usually only like 10-15k unless you build specifically for it

but thats usually still good enough that you dont need a healer if you have him

[brave rock]

diona doesnt have only the shield you know, she still has her ult ;)
doesnt change the fact, that your effective health is in general higher with a shield than with healing and diona has both

[grand willow]

well diona fills the role and frees it up for the other slots

[brave rock]

with diona i cant remember my eula going below 75% hp unless at the point where i just ulted with diona before i got the first tick and had corrosion on me the whole time
with kokomi, eula sometimes will be so low that i have to cancel charging her ult

[grand willow]

kokomi is probably because you moved away from jellyfish

jellyfish range kinda sucks and it doesnt move with you

[brave rock]

why would i run around while charging eula ult?

that doesnt make sense at all

[grand willow]

you act like stuff in this game doesnt move lol

two ticks of kokomi jellyfish is like diona's entire heal + shield combined though so if you're dying while in it it'll probably kill you through diona shield too

[brave rock]

also to close this:
can you run kuki with eula, sure if you want to (or diona is in other team)
will kuki + cryo be better than diona + electro, pretty sure not
will kuki solve eulas problems (whatever those problems were in the first place 😳 ) absolutely not

[grand willow]

im not even sure what people are running for 4th slot in eula comps these days but i assume its either zhongli or bennett

[brave rock]

i used eula in every abyss between 1.6 and 2.5, im pretty sure i know what im talking about ;)

[grand willow]

so its mostly academic to begin with

[brave rock]

bennett if hes free, zl with diona doesnt make much sense, his 20% phys res shred is the same as ros c6, but ros has insane battery potential in comparison, you can run kaz to boost raiden ult in between and grouping or like 2.5 abyss ning to kill wolflord

[grand willow]

there arent that many buffers who buff phys so its either buff attack with bennett (and not have to worry about healing) or stack as much res shred as possible

i think the default assumption is that if you have zhongli you dont need heals

[brave rock]

or have flex element against a specific shield

[grand willow]

so again mostly academic

im trying to think if there's anyone who actually buffs burst damage apart from raiden

shenhe i guess

[brave rock]

its not really "anyone", but eosf

or is it still about eulas 4th slot?

[green dagger]

https://gfycat.com/glisteningharmoniousaustralianfreshwatercrocodile
You are playing a different game then
Cause im pretty sure Eula has resistance immunity during her Q

[brave rock]

i also dont get knocked back by 99% (including geo lawachurl jump), but i know i got knocked back once, but forgot by what

geo lawachurl should be more than cryo slimes and icicles pretty sure, whats that for an example 😂

[green dagger]

https://youtu.be/A-d02aBbMhw

[green dagger]

You dont really understand how poise dmg works right?

[brave rock]

im pretty sure that little knock back should have less poise than big guy jumping on your and throwing you around

[green dagger]

Multiple hits can still break your resistance to interruption

[brave rock]

and also, how does "these attacks dont stagger" has anything to do with "there is an attack that staggers her"? i can prob show you a few hours of her not getting staggered, does that prove shes not staggerable, absolutely not 😂

[green dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/nhwoa3/fact_eula_is_the_first_character_who_can_fully/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[brave rock]

^

[green dagger]

She LITERALLY has interuption immunity
Her during Q, Raiden during Q and Hu Tao after C6 procs are the only ones that have this

[brave rock]

you know you cant prove your point unless you find it in the code, right?
also im not sure how she got staggered, maybe it had something to do with leyline disorders or other random stuff, maybe even bug 🤷 but showing she doesnt get staggered by something doesnt do anything 😂

and the fact that i only had it once, shows her interuption res is insanely high

and it was only part of smth, shield > heal, which is still true even if shes unstaggerable

[crimson oasis]

You could use Rosaria instead of Diona in that case maybe, you will lose on a bit of energy generation prolly but idk, i probably still prefer the normal team without kuki

[maiden dawn]

Which wepon will be good for kuki

[keen sinew]

for 4 stars: fav, alley flash, festering, and iron sting for 5 stars: Freedom, skyward, jade cutter

Hp

She is mainly healer with some small dps if you do em

[brave rock]

why alley flash, she doesnt scale with atk

and for 5* jade cutter

[keen sinew]

alley flash has em

[brave rock]

yes, like 40 or so and over 600 base atk, more than some 5*

actually 3rd most base atk after mist and aquila, also her em scaling is really shit

those 55 em it gives, increases your healing by 40 per tick

[maiden dawn]

What will her best teams be?

[rare oak]

I saw that PJC Kuki does C6 Fischl dmg...

isn't that like pretty good?

obviously she's not a battery like Fischl but she can offer heals.

[haughty mural]

I forgot Alley Flash had EM

It's like 1/3 iron sting though

[shrewd crescent]

Alley Flash also has sadness

[rare oak]

I'm not sure how reliable these calcs are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzgt6TzjICY&t=863s

[haughty mural]

Koinzell pretty good
They proved shenhe good too back in the day

[rare oak]

that's PJC though, her damage with other swords is probably much much lower.

[shrewd crescent]

This is why we give Kuki Pjc and pray its on Cyno's banner

[haughty mural]

https://youtu.be/IWcvxYxFFQA

Part 2 is iron sting

It is not very favorable

[shrewd crescent]

Don't worry hp/em/crit will bump up those numbers thanks to intensified

[rare oak]

I want to prefarm for her, should I go EM/HP/Crit

HP/HP/Crit

[haughty mural]

Hmm 3.0 should come with free weapon
Maybe a polearm since we don't have one, but also maybe a keqing/kuki sword

Would be nice

[rare oak]

3.0 will probably have new craftables.

plus the event weapon.

[haughty mural]

Definitely will have that. I was referring to event weapon

[shrewd crescent]

Both.

[maiden dawn]

I want to play mdps kuki teams?

[shrewd crescent]

Are you prepared to suffer cope damage

[haughty mural]

Step one, use raiden
Step two, dps with raiden instead

I joke
Chongyun yunjin shenhe kuki should work

[deft atlas]

Eula doesn't get staggered even by four ruin guards spinning at the same time

By current standards, she has immunity

whether something that deals poise damage equal to 100 ruin guards spinning would stagger her is something thats not worth thinking about anyway

during q, nothing in the game can stagger her except death

[brave rock]

my build is already finished and just waiting for her

[pastel brook]

which one was the 2.0 weapon again?

[deft atlas]

beidou

[pastel brook]

catch was 2.2 iirc but i could be wrong

[deft atlas]

catch isn't event wep

2.1

[long frigate]

burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim. your stating that eula has gotten staggered contradicts all evidence kowalcyzk has presented and the knowledge held by the theorycrafting community as a whole, you need to provide good evidence that this is the possible, or else there's really no reason to take the claim seriously.

[deft atlas]

2.1 was fish

[pastel brook]

i mixed it up ty

[deft atlas]

i provided no evidence but i can

[brave rock]

it happened once, its a while ago, i never recreated it, what about, it was prob some sort of bug, did you not get? and also there is still no prove that she cant be staggered ;) i know its like 99.9999%, but unless stated by dev or found in the code, it cant be 100%

[deft atlas]

probably just you misremembering

[long frigate]

yeah but you are using it to tell people how their eula team comps should be, the original comment was about diona's shield. if this finding of yours is significant enough so that people should change team comps around it, you need good evidence to support it

why would someone change their team to account for a 0.0001% scenario?

[brave rock]

you havent read the conversation at all, thx for clarifying that, didnt need it tho 😂

[deft atlas]

[deft atlas]

diona is usually deadslot anyway

[brave rock]

conversation = 1 message? good to know

[deft atlas]

puffy you know the answer

[long frigate]

here you are saying that because eula does not have infinite resistance to interruption (something that if true, is so incredibly uncommon it is both impossible to verify and will never affect the game performance of 99% of players), diona is better for eula

[deft atlas]

she can be mdps

it's just suboptimal

you can make her driver for double hydro or beidou tho

effectively same thing but she doesn't do damage herself

[long frigate]

and thats not how TC works, if you are making a claim you need to support it. maybe your Eula did really get staggered in her burst, but you cant use that anecdotal experience we have no evidence of to tell people they're wrong in saying eula has infinite stagger resist, because based on all testing and date we have, she does

[haughty mural]

When we get kuki I'm going to go walk through 4 spinning ruin guards during Q, as Eula
Kuki, qiqi, and barbara rings all on me to keep me healed

I wanna see it

[long frigate]

but what if you get staggered out of it

||/j||

[boreal grail]

i actually never know about eula stagger so she's supposed to be tanky as shit esp combined with increased def from skill ?

[haughty mural]

I never thought about it either tbh

[boreal grail]

i just thought that was grimheart stacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNFiT7PupFU bruh i never knew this

vs 4 roon guards but not spinning

[deft atlas]

benny qiqi is enough already

but the pain is trying to make all 4 spin at the same time

[hoary geode]

how much can a raised kuki heal?

[frosty jewel]

not to enter the argument, but maybe he got knocked back after hold-e, so that the grimheart stacks are expended?

[deft atlas]

during Q its infinite no matter the grimheart

[frosty jewel]

ah

i didn't know that

mb

[deft atlas]

aside from Q she can get interrupted tho

[hexed jetty]

no kuki in leaks faq?

[grand willow]

the context of the diona thing was whether kuki can fit into a eula comp by replacing both diona and fischl/raiden

i was fine with arguing for diona as battery but he was also trying to argue that diona's shield makes it worth

diona's actual heal isn't any better than kuki's though so if the shield isn't needed you might as well take someone else

and honestly there's very little in the game that you're gonna be able to tank without dodging with just diona shield anyway

[haughty mural]

for now

I'm just gonna use diona and kuki with eula

[spring arrow]

im gonna take a guess and say that person got interrupted outside Q lol

[tired berry]

2.7 delay Kuki’s revenge

No buff no release

[long frigate]

either that or they found a 1 in a million exploit that completely changes everything TC knows about Eula

[grand willow]

maybe it was a stealth nerf

[small turtle]

wdym

5* weapons are for the people who will be playing kuki dps

but i dont recommend them using it since it could be put into other characters

[hollow cairn]

putting pjc on kuki just for aesthetic>>

[green dagger]

PJC doesnt even looks good on her tho

[main bay]

U sure?

She has green hair

[noble elbow]

kuki c4 bennett c6 overload kuki

thundering fur-

[haughty dew]

Kuki buff in the span of 3 weeks

[hollow cairn]

I will love her as she is

[real trench]

does kuki have any "important" cons?

[woven locust]

c2

[grand willow]

c2 probably helps but its not like bennett/sayu c1 core

[meager valve]

so how are we feeling about the delay, anyone still coping for changes now that they have 3 extra weeks to reflect on their design? Or should i just prepare myself for the worst

[shrewd crescent]

Always the worst

[deep dune]

Too much copium

[deep dune]

At this point I'm getting her just for the free intertwined fate

[grand willow]

my cope is that they'll run yelan/itto banner concurrently and have the same 4*s on both

i dont even remember what itto cons do but that char is boring

[tired berry]

This

[gentle nymph]

he's fun with the full geo team, one of those "big but not obvious gameplay diff between C0 and C2" characters

[grand willow]

i ended up having to look it up

c1's not the worst i guess

lets him Q into an extended CA string

iirc c2 doesnt actually help him that much since hitstop gives him almost 100% uptime on Q anyway

anyway the issue with itto is mostly that he has literally one hardcoded comp and its a mono element one to boot so its literally just pump itto's stats and mash

[hollow river]

Her cons are all poopy tbh. C2 offers “value” but its so minimal that idk if Id even rec it. She’s good for a C0 4* so I’d leave her at C0 lol

It has a 5s cd and actually useless scaling so its not impactful for electro app or damage

[grand willow]

assuming icd is independent it could be okay

if the initial E application triggered EC it should have ended by the time you swap to another char and do an NA

so you get an extra EC tick between before the next E proc

[maiden dawn]

Do u think kuki can feats my over healing team? Bennet Barbara qiqi sayu to change someone

And what will be her best build

[tired berry]

What’s making me sad is she’ll probably be on the banner with Yanfei and I won’t both, but if they’re rerunning with Itto only I’m out ☹️ even though it’s 50/50 I can’t risk it

I’d rather it be a surprise Xiao rerun or a Yoimiya one

[tough trout]

does kuki work with kokomi taser comp?

[maiden dawn]

Biscally every electro besides razor can be in kokomi taser

[tough trout]

oh ok also does kuki work with beidou or no?

just want to make sure

[maiden dawn]

Not really her battery abilities are like yae's. Fischl/raiden kuki will be better i think

Btw what kuki burst do I didn't understand

[tough trout]

its kinda like kujou sara's i think

[maiden dawn]

Buffs electro or dmg? Or atk

[tough trout]

well i mean by looks

[maiden dawn]

Oh yeah i saw the gameplay

[tough trout]

im not sure if it buffs dmg

[maiden dawn]

Im planning to get her and use her on Bennet Barbara qiqi sayu team instead of someone

[tough trout]

as main dps?

[grand willow]

4tf overkuki with c6 bennett infusing might be interesting

[maiden dawn]

Idk everyone have aa dps build but Barbara is on field mostly. Maybe she will take Barbara von field team

[maiden dawn]

What will be her best set

[grand willow]

4TF or 4CW probably

[maiden dawn]

Without c6 Bennet

And what will be stats for like sub dps

[grand willow]

lol i would need to go back and framecount her NAs

i havent mathed it out

its just something that popped into my head

im thinking like kuki yelan c6ben sucrose or something though

[unique sphinx]

Can we cope that the 3 week delay is gonna enable some Kuki changes

[small turtle]

beta ended

[meager valve]

they can still do changes after beta ends you know

[frosty glen]

It smells like massive copium in here

[meager valve]

can =/= will

while my hopes are very low, I won't ignore the small chance of them doing something about kuki.
But tbh, there's a good chance this is an extremely low priority for them (if anyone in mihoyo even THINKS kuki has issues, that is, LOL), considering what their team in china must be going through, I doubt a lot of progress is being made in the more crucial parts of the update. So bothering with tweaking with a 4 star's kit/multipliers might not be something they'll do even if they want to.

[uncut ravine]

maybe hoyo gives everyone a free copy. Makes the usual hoyo fans happy and if people try to complain about her kit they can get yelled at by the fans that shes free

[fluid rapids]

guys why Kuki's Q dmg total is lower when NoB/TotM is active..

[small turtle]

lower multiplier on max hp side

[hollow river]

with fav she's definitely doable since she doesn't really have better weapon options and proc's it well

with high cr and refine u can just quick proc it off of E cast and with 0cr you can still proc it off of her ult

beidou will def need some ER but it's doable

[fluid rapids]

hmm and why is it lower? :D

[small turtle]

mihoyos work

[maiden dawn]

Do u think kuki cam feat my bad team Barbara thoma Bennet sayu?

[small turtle]

I dont think so. Barbara can forward vape + clam with that team

[maiden dawn]

Thoma is vaping. Barbara clam is pretty strong like 22 k every 3 sec

[small turtle]

The comp aint a barbara driver?

[boreal grail]

4 healer comp i think you can replace thoma there

so it becomes a "taser" comp

[maiden dawn]

Its is but her hydro application is much faster than thoma pyro

[maiden dawn]

Yeah i used Barbara qiqi sayu Bennet but i like thoma tho

[small turtle]

Ohhhh

[boreal grail]

replace bennett then

your barbara focus on clam right

[small turtle]

So in this case you want to replace who with kuki?

Id say

[boreal grail]

bennett doesnt have much value if youre not vaping barbs ca

[maiden dawn]

I can give up on sayu or Bennet tbh i prefer to give up on Bennet i think kuki is soo cool

[deep dune]

What is Kuki's best team

[maiden dawn]

Weapon?

[deep dune]

Read again

[median sapphire]

They mean what weapon are you gonna use on her

[deep dune]

She heals based on hp so primordial jade cutter if she's good

[median sapphire]

Thing is she doesn’t appear to be very good meta wise rn

Low dmg on e and q, not enough heals to do good clam dmg

This entire channel is coping for buffs

[hollow cairn]

i will accept her the way she is

[maiden dawn]

I thought her q gives big numbers

[alpine dock]

Hydro dps in electro charge imo

[hollow cairn]

what if constant superconduct kuki w phys kaeya

for funsies

[tough trout]

i was gonna do that with my phys traveler or kokomi taser team

im thinking of doing kokomi, beidou, kuki, kazuha (when i get him) and my beidou has 208% er so her er isnt a problem

[maiden dawn]

I can play kokomi taser with every anemo tbh

[tough trout]

yeah i have my anemo traveler but they are my physical dps but they do great anemo dmg too

[small turtle]

opening bennett is good

[small turtle]

done reconstructing the eula kuki sheet

[maiden dawn]

How do i build a sub dpa kuki

[small turtle]

overload, EC, and clam comps usually tends to put her into "sub-dps" but not really

usually going for EM on overload and EC
the usual artifact stats for Clam, HP/HP/HB

[tough trout]

would 4pc tenacity or 2pc tenacity 2pc emblem still work on a sub dps kuki?

[small turtle]

4pc tenacity, buffs party while increasing her dmg

[tough trout]

ok thank you

[amber plover]

I think kuki's biggest strength is opening childe/ayato taser to run kazuha without losing healing so that's something
being able to battery with fav and using TOTM is not half bad either and at least she's gonna deal more damage than someone like Jean so whatever

[stuck shadow]

hello. what is the recommended build for kuki? planning to use her in raiden teams

[tough trout]

can i get someones thoughts on this team and if i should change anything
kokomi (4pc clam), kuki (4pc tenacity) beidou(2pc thunder 2pc nobless + beidou has 200% er) kazuha (2 pc viridescent 2pc glad/shim) im working on getting a 4pc viridescent

[tough trout]

i heard she was and that it was her best in slot

its ok don't worry

[flat umbra]

What wep do y'all recommend for totm kuki?

sac sword and iron sting?

[mental stag]

favonious sword

actually pretty much just fav sword

[flat umbra]

lmao

crit circlet or crit substats w hp hp hb, ig

[mental stag]

tho .. if u gonna build her for ES dmg .. building DEF sands nd def stats with cinnabar also an option

[flat umbra]

The favonius passive can proc off-field or no?

[flat umbra]

[mental stag]

her dmg is sadge .. so hp-hp-hb for maximizing her heals

[flat umbra]

Yea but i mean crit rate if fav, so can proc the passive

[mental stag]

tho dont take it seriously .. its a meme build nd it doesnt do much

[mental stag]

yea .. just from sub rolls

u dont really care about any other stat other then HP-crit rate (if fav) nd em

her Q dmg is way too poopy that u dont really care about it nd appearently its mostly a waste of time to cast it anyways

so u dont really care much about E.R as well

just maximize ur healing nd revolve around it

that is the general view over her build afaik

[flat umbra]

Yeah i saw that weeks ago and i was thinking if has changed (?), Anyway thx sm

I will build her w totm and fav ig nonody uses that sword so

[mental stag]

all she get is text buffs

lots of text buffs

[flat umbra]

Yeah ikr xd

I was so disappointed abt that tbh

[mental stag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/781749236521238548/965938364241035304/haha_no_cry.gif

[flat umbra]

mood

[rose tiger]

it doesn’t proc off field

[flat umbra]

,

I'm not surprised

then maybe sac sword r1 if i don't need fav procs in any team i guess

[stuck shadow]

Yes thank you. Its the general build i was looking for

[orchid folio]

friends

do we know if you can kuki q and switch, how long you have?

[mental stag]

There is at least 1- 2 sec of casting animation afaik

U can just cast q nd switch

[tired berry]

Basically the whole duration of the burst lmao 😭🥹

[rugged pawn]

for me that sword is exclusive to bennett

[proud acorn]

Any buffs?

[mental stag]

https://tenor.com/view/mihoyo-genshin-genshin-impact-yae-miko-hot-gif-23300730

[idle turret]

Isn't beta over anyways? I don't think we'd find out

[idle turret]

Also I have a question

[small turtle]

Yes?

[main ferry]

Mihoyo hates Kuki

How do you make a chatacter

And then shoot them in the foot

[idle turret]

Oops sorry wifi went out a bit

Ok so like

Why is favonius her bis when the passive can't be proced off field?

Do correct me if I'm wrong about how favonius works tho

[small turtle]

Usually to proc it using her Q since her Q hits 7 times above 50% max hp and 13 times below 50% max hp. Along with the ER you get on the secondary stat of the weapon already gives enough ER for her burst to be active.

I havent checked her ER on a 1 man team with Fav yet

But you are right on the fav not procing off-field

[idle turret]

Oh, that's actually really clever! Tysm for the explanation :D

[haughty mural]

This has been the inazuma strategy

[main ferry]

Yoimiya sabotage

[idle turret]

As a Yoimiya main... Yeah

[frosty glen]

Better live up to this

[haughty mural]

As a yoimiya main,
at least I'm not a Yae main

(but i wanted to be)

[short sentinel]

[alpine dock]

We will remember

[small turtle]

[ivory marten]

whats her ascension stat again?

[small turtle]

hp%

[real trench]

why is there a def% build for kuki on the pins?
did i miss something in her kit?

[small turtle]

basically

since her multipliers are so low

going cinnabar def actually increases those multipliers

[grand willow]

she actually has a pretty decent def stat

cinnabar is still only gonna be like a couple thousand per tick though

[haughty mural]

If she was a def based character instead of hp I'd be thrilled

[grand willow]

im fine with her being EM-based tbh

the HP scaling on her Q is low to begin with

even if it was an equivalent amount of atk or def scaling it wouldnt be that good

you'll likely get a lot more damage out of her from EC/SC/OL than you would from the actual direct damage from her E/Q

and if you're not using her for reactions idk why you'd use an electro healer to begin with

[idle turret]

Battery? Maybe?

Also how we feeling about the intensified reaction? 👀

[grand willow]

might be op but need to know numbers and scaling

i wouldnt be surprised if its something really bad like +1% damage at 0em and only goes up to like +5% at 1k em

[real trench]

kuki battery?
isnt her regen/particles really bad?

like not as bad as qiqi barbara

[haughty mural]

You know.. In the dendro leak video it shows XQ running around and creating overgrow via bushes.
Maybe kuki can do the same with intensify

[grand willow]

it doesnt seem to be aoe so i doubt it

oh you mean for the particle gen

im guessing it has to actually hit something to make a particle but we'll see i guess

[haughty mural]

Yeah they'll have to adjust some of the rules for sure, for environmental stuff.
Otherwise every time it rains would be a warzone of shroom explosions

which sounds way too fun

[grand willow]

unless they go out of their way to add dendro element to existing prop pieces i doubt that would happen

they're not gonna just add it to random bushes and stuff since there's way too many of those on the map and it'd probably just end up breaking everything

[idle turret]

Yeah, isn't grass dendro? Lmao

That'd be a mess

[grand willow]

it does burn i guess but im not sure if its actually the burning reaction

more likely they just remove it

[main bay]

Theyll probably have a few dendro specific props like how they do rainstones and barrels

[fleet talon]

so 4pc totm is the way, right?

im guessing fav would be ideal but i need to use my leftover blacksword, plus it might look cool on her

[grand willow]

fav benefit is kinda incidental i think

its either that or iron sting though i think

technically freedom sworn would be best on her but i dont think anyone's gonna use it on her

maybe if we ever get gear presets

[fleet talon]

and is her burst damage worth investing or is the hp scaling there just so it isnt a complete damage loss?

[grand willow]

it'll react multiple times and has a high chance of proccing fav

the damage is kinda bad even for hp scaling

[cold pumice]

triple hp

she scales barely better than flat hp and attack with em

[grand willow]

depends on whether you want her purely for heal ticks or if you plan to use her as taser enabler

[hollow river]

you can also use dark iron sword on her

p similar to iron sting in strength

well actually is it possible to get refines on it?

damn just realized that there hasn't been a new 3* weapon since launch

[real trench]

they're afraid of releasing another TTDS and making a certain donut technically dead

[cold pumice]

Or more liekly, its not worth the investment

3 stars don't make money

but they do cost resources to develop

[raven peak]

Do we know if solo electro how much er kuki would want

[tough trout]

for a taser comp should i run em on her?

[tough trout]

i think 180%-200% would be good but i could be wrong

[grand willow]

most hydro characters apply hydro pretty fast so she will usually proc at least one tick of the EC if not both

if its double electro is a lot dicier

but there's only so much healing you really need so its probably fine to split the diff on heal amount and get as much damage as you can

[glad harness]

if you only want electro application and healing from her kit, then none. No need to burst. In fact, the burst can be a dps loss for the team since dmg is weak.

[ruby flame]

What do yall think would work better? 4pc tenacity or 2pc tenacity 2pc fury?

[mental stag]

4pc tenacity .. Shinobu's dmg is bad to work on so instead of dmg u focus on utility with her .. building up buffs via "wep" nd "sets" for her

going for full healing

[ruby flame]

Okie

[mental stag]

HP-HP-HB

u dont even care about other stats other then HP tbh(for the big part)

%HP-Flat HP-EM - E.R maybe c.rate if u using fav sword ..nd nothing else honestly

[idle hazel]

is kuki going to be anything more than a comfy option for taser teams?

like anything she would be best in

[real trench]

sadly it does not look too good for kuki as far as beta is concerned

[idle hazel]

i bet

mhy is just faking us out

and kuki is the next xiangling

[simple cypress]

Extended banner means 240 chances for a Kuki buff right? Right?

[hollow cairn]

[tired berry]

Intensified is the only buff we’re getting 🫠

[haughty mural]

240 days is enough time for kuki to train and become electro archon

(won't actually be 240 days but still)

[mental stag]

240 days is enuf for her to train and become a true shinobi

[glad harness]

there is a high chance of burning has both pyro and dendro aura. so Kuki can proc both overload and intensified at the same time

if intensified scaling can be half of overload, I'm happy.

[shrewd crescent]

But reduce total buff

[glad harness]

superconduct dmg ceiling is already half of overload. so I'm expecting the same with intensified

[idle turret]

dang, no hope huh

[grand willow]

she might be good for overmiya or overfei due to consistent electro applications + heals

since you want the EMspammer to be hitting the overload in those cases

[unkempt ginkgo]

you can check burning in game right now, t
dendro and pyro do co-exist but intensified has no mention of reaction damage, only particle and dmg buff(not clear whether res shred or dmg bonus yet)

[simple cypress]

doesn't dendro currently co-exist with every element rn?

[tough trout]

its ok guys kuki will def be buffed before 2.7

[glad harness]

I watched the leaked video and dendro immediately consumes hydro.

[glad harness]

Yeah, but right now burning scaling is very low. I think they will adjust it

Only cryo and pyro have a chance to coexist with dendro now.

[unkempt ginkgo]

I see

[simple cypress]

o ya.. in the leaky leak that's true
I meant in reference to checking in-game to determine if dendro aura will co-exist in the future

[hollow river]

since kuki might get delayed a patch maybe shell get a sig weapon in 2.8

if she had a f2p hp% sword that like gave her team energy on ele skill hit but took some of her own energy/hp that'd be big

or like a high EM sword with 3* base atk that increases healing bonus based off of EM

it's also possible they pull an ht/basically half the not launch 5* roster and make her a 5* for the 2.8 patch if she gets delayed, in which case she might actually get tweaked

[jovial bloom]

Is this good : kuki pjc ,4 tom hp sands , crit stats

U get hp from ascension , 2tom ,pjc passive

This atk gets converted to atk by pjc and get 20 atk from 4 tom

So both hp and atk are balanced for split scaling

[haughty mural]

Why would she get delayed a patch? Is there news i dunno?

[timber viper]

Kuki is still on 2.7 based on what we know.. and 2.8 will have free 4 ⭐character based on pattern since 1.1

[hollow river]

because I was hearing that they were gonna make 2.7 a 1 banner patch ?

idk the authenticity of that leak tho it was def sussy

which is why I said might

[amber plover]

Even if the patch is reduced to 1 banner I highly doubt she'd get moved to 2.8

[real trench]

kuki in yelan's banner

[haughty mural]

i haven't heard this as a claimed leak, just as speculation of what mhy could do
If we do get only one, i just want them to put kuki on yelan banner but i know they won't, they'd wanna maximize money

[hexed hearth]

best healer kuki for eula would be 4pc ToM HP% HP% HB% with HP and ER subs? And which weapon with that?

[tough trout]

favionus sword probably

[grand willow]

proccing fav is gonna be tough without crit circlet

[shrewd crescent]

This is why we Q and pray

[tough trout]

is it ok to run em on kuki if using her in a taser comp?

[grand willow]

should be fine

depending on whether you have any other electros she may not get EC ownership that often

but her heal scales with it anyway so it doesnt really cost you that much

you lose a couple hundred per tick for EM build vs hp build i think

out of like 3k per tick

[tough trout]

well its a kokomi taser comp so i wont really need kuki's healing

[cold pumice]

barely

averaged flat hp roll is 12 healing. averaged EM roll is like 15 healing

[grand willow]

last i checked the average heal tick goes from about 2.5k to 3k with EM vs HP healing

probs a bit more if you go with HB circlet

so it mostly comes down to how much you think is going to be enough

there's no point in going all-in on healing you dont need esp if its costing you dps or other value

[thorn badge]

typical kuki hp amount at 80/90, hp electro crit with totm?

[hollow river]

I wouldnt run electro but I think you should be around 30k

with really good sub rolls for hp%

actually prob dont need that good at 80/90

[thorn badge]

is there much difference between hp and electro goblet?

in terms of ult damage

[hollow river]

yes and no

like there is but her dmg is so insignificant

that it just isnt worth building for dmg imo

the only potentially significant dmg build she MIGHT have is full EM

since the scaling isnt too awful and she also has reaction dmg

[haughty mural]

Yeh I'll build her for dmg when we get an E skill dmg artifact

Full heals for eula train choochoo

[shrewd crescent]

Hp/em/crit

[tough trout]

(pretend qiqi is kuki) but is this a good build if your focusing on dmg for kuki (also im working on getting an electro goblet instead of an atk currently)

[dark geyser]

kukopium

[hollow cairn]

If ur focusing on dmg u should go hp sands no?

[tough trout]

is that what her e and q scale off of mainly?

[rare abyss]

her E damage scales of attack while her healing is based on HP and her burst dmg sclaes off HP

i would say if you focus on her electro damage to go for HP goblet instead of attack

[tough trout]

ok thanks and what about the sands?

[rare abyss]

since it's her burst that does the damage you can keep the ER sand

but i would only recommend a DPS kuki if you already have god tier artifacts

and seeing your kuki stats i think it's better for you to go HP-HP-Healing bonus

[tough trout]

well im running her with kokomi so i dont need her healing

[rare abyss]

then you can go for dps kuki or just full EM

[tough trout]

i have a good em goblet

[rare abyss]

can you show it ?

[tough trout]

this is my stats with the goblet

[rare abyss]

just a question, at wich level will you upgrade your kuki ?

[tough trout]

probably to level 70 maybe 80 if i have enough books and mora

she looks fun to play mainly

[rare abyss]

yeah go for full EM kuki then when you get her see if you really like the character alot

if you do try to get better artifacts for DPS Kuki

[tough trout]

em works well for a taser comp right?

[rare abyss]

yup

[tough trout]

oh ok just double checking

[rare abyss]

if you're gonna use her with Kokomi i think it's fine

[tough trout]

i'll have to farm for an em sands and hat

is er not good on kuki?

[rare abyss]

how can i say this, it's good if you're gonna use her burst, but her burst only does damage, however if you use EM it's a better upgrade for her E skill that applies electro for a time

[tough trout]

which skill would be more important for a taser comp?

[rare abyss]

her E skill

in my opinion but try asking the others

i haven't paid that much attention here these days

[tough trout]

would sacrifical sword be better for taser comp?

or stick to favionus

[rare abyss]

stick to favonius, you won't need sac sword since her E downtime is short

and if you go for c2 it won't even have a downtime

[tough trout]

oh ok thank you so much

[rare abyss]

np glad i could help

[hollow cairn]

dps kuki seems fun but I'll probably go full healer build w freedom sworn

Use her with my eula maybe

[glad harness]

if full EM, characters should be leveled to 90

[tough trout]

what is kuki's extra ascension stat? i mean the thing i circled in the photo

[lament cargo]

hp%

[tough trout]

oh ok thank you

[supple snow]

Can she battery beidou

Basically can she replace fischl in childe tazer

Coz i wanna run kazuha so I'd need a healer

[cold pumice]

no

well, she can but its not great

and also youre probbaly better off replacing beidou than fischl probably

[real trench]

she can barely battery herself

[supple snow]

But isn't beidou more dmg??

[real trench]

i guess you should use fav but its still a bit

[supple snow]

Guess i can't run kazuha in that team then

[real trench]

i dont have ER calc that have kuki in it

maybe just wait til release i guess

then try and see if you can fit kuki in childe firework variation

[unique sphinx]

Going too hard on hp is probably not the way to go since you already get 20k hp at lv 90 with a lv20 flower

[real trench]

who are you replying too?

[cold pumice]

fischl is the primary reason EC teams even work

[unique sphinx]

Do I need to reply to anyone specifically

[real trench]

not really
its just your statement sounds like an answer to an argument

so i was wondering if you were replying to anyone

or just mentioning your findings

[real trench]

there are calcs in the pins i guess
so you can adjust to your wants and needs

i found the def% build to be quite interesting

[shrewd crescent]

Now that Intensified exists she can

[tough trout]

everyone to me when i say some copium bs about kuki

[magic obsidian]

does kukis skill snapshot

[small turtle]

We have no idea

[tough trout]

just a random thought but would sara be able to buff kuki's dmg? or no?

[real trench]

technically yes

but her multipliers are so low

[tough trout]

yeah

[pallid iris]

yeah but why

[tough trout]

i was just curious

[vapid basin]

but i believe it doesnt scale the Ult which is most of kuki's dmg, unless u hav C6 sara

[tough trout]

i see

[vapid basin]

tad late but the koinzell video claim that jade cutter C6 Kuki is doing slightly more dmg than skyward harp C6 fischl (not sure refine, he doesnt say) is not based on maths, his claim is based on his own ingame fischl which he says has roughly the same lvl of artifacts as kuki.

he also doesnt describe his buff stack he uses for his fischl he only states it's fischl in a 'subdps' position so it could be anything, but is being compared against a triple buff stacking comp kuki/yelan/raiden/kazuha

if theres any other points of clarification he's made on social media or on his twitch streams plz do say. just wanted to put this out to dispel any misunderstanding bcuz his video was posted in this channel without clarification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzgt6TzjICY&t=200s

[grand willow]

guess ill build dps shinobu

[magic obsidian]

how would a kuki one shot burst set up go?

my guess would be sucrose with hankusshin ring 4pc vv full em sucrose, 4pc instructor mona, 4pc petra zhongli?

or actaully

suc would have sac frag and mona hankusshin ring

[mental topaz]

How’s the Kukopium?

[shrewd crescent]

Is the world ending or something?

[tough trout]

i would probably use kujou sara maybe?

[magic obsidian]

sara buffs atk and only does anything for burst at c6

[tough trout]

oh mb i didn't know that since i dont use sara

[tardy cosmos]

finally got an em piece for millelith

[tawdry bone]

Kuki Shinobu teams?

[real yoke]

you can use her in a superconduct team for eula i suppose, taser teams or mono electro

[alpine dock]

Also possibly itto teams

[tawdry bone]

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-beatrice-betty-beako-anime-gif-22456453

[pastel brook]

Beatrice from Re:Zero

https://tenor.com/view/beatrice-shoo-go-away-rezero-anime-gif-19892731

oh

Fox kouhai

[alpine dock]

😭

[supple oriole]

A self proclaimed my kohai

[small turtle]

why are we here

[supple oriole]

Just to suffer

[frosty glen]

Every night, I can feel my leg and my arms, even my fingers

[bitter furnace]

hi uhh is kuki's healing good

i haven't seen anything about her anywhere😢

[real trench]

you can read about the heals and what lil dmg she has on the sheet in the pins

her healing is okay

[small turtle]

forgor to say that but the healing mastesheet has been updated

[tawdry bone]

So she’s ass

Great

Not C6’ing

[haughty mural]

Mehh
100% uptime is too good to be that negative about her

I'm just sad her burst doesn't heal

[grand willow]

100% uptime for a meterless heal that ticks every 1.5s and follows you around

even sangonomiya kokomi doesnt do that

[median sapphire]

kokomi heals way more tho

but yea, kuki's e mobility is a big plus

[grand willow]

kokomi heals more but uptime isnt as good unless you rotate in Q with the right timing

[cold pumice]

100% uptime if you run either a 15 or a 30s rotarion

Or sac sword

Otherwise you start encountering desync problems

[haughty mural]

Oh noo

[long frigate]

Yo i have one of those too!

@spring arrow

[supple oriole]

but I don't appreciate them using my name in theirs

[long frigate]

Do you know them?

[spring arrow]

THAT'S RIGHT XD

[gilded pendant]

as far as healing/support goes, freedom sword would be her bis right?

[cold pumice]

Primordial jade cutter should give slightly better heals

[tough trout]

would kuki be good in this team (pretend fischl is kuki) or would kuki be better in a superconduct team?

like this team for superconduct (pretend qiqi is kuki)

[stark grove]

how much cope will be Keqing, XQ, Shinobu, Kazuha?

[median sapphire]

Maybe not that cope actually

Since xingqiu only micro heals having shinobu would fill healer role

[small turtle]

pjc only gives 20% HP, if we talking about her best healing weapon it would be freedom sworn on a HP/HP/HB setup

and iron sting is not that behind in terms of pjc healing

[tough trout]

is kuki better in a superconduct or taser comp?

[small turtle]

i have no experience with taser comps so i am not valid to answer that for now

[tough trout]

oh ok

[small turtle]

but iirc if you able to make kuki the owner of taser, it should be better than superconduct team

[tough trout]

[brittle radish]

How good is Kuki

[pastel brook]

read the pins

[brittle radish]

Damn

[haughty mural]

i still think kuki could be very good with the right sword - like a sig weapon made for her

[lament cargo]

I think her support capabilities aren't awful

she has 100% uptime on ToTM at c2

slap a fav or fs if you want and it's not awful

but maybe I'm coping

[median sapphire]

I think she’ll be good in certain situations

[haughty mural]

this is mostly what i'm excited about. heals + totm + electro is good enough...if only because there are no other electro healers to compete

[median sapphire]

But we don’t have those situations yet

[haughty mural]

i hate her burst - i want a toolkit character but her burst is just electro amber

at least amber buffs with her burst though

[mental topaz]

At c6 or with elegy

[stark grove]

does Shinobu's Q cleanse? her descriptions says "cleanse all evil" and shit

[haughty mural]

Yeah i mean her c6
Can put buff weps on anyone, i don't really count that

[haughty mural]

Her Q says barrier too
Buncha lies

[grand willow]

you already have two healers in that comp so kuki will be of limited value

fischl would be better for the energy gen

[tough trout]

well i wasn't gonna use kuki as a healer i was gonna use her as an electro support

[grand willow]

kuki is probably better off used with ayato comps where the anemo is sucrose or kazuha

there are better electro supports if you dont need healing

[tough trout]

true

[grand willow]

either amy or raiden probs

[real trench]

you're filling a role thats usually filled with bennet as a buffer and healer
so its a tough task unless you have c6'd your benny

also another one that can fill the spot is ttds barbara
idk if ttds barbruh wins over kuki in that situation

but if you just want kuki in your keqing team
then yeah the team is fine

[pastel igloo]

freedom sworn should be decent with her, right?

[haughty mural]

Yeah but I have kazuha
No chance of her taking his FS lol

And I assume most FS havers also have kazuha

[tough trout]

is freedom sword her bis even as an electro support rather than a healer?

[haughty mural]

I think Jade is generally considered better for her personally, but the FS buff gives her more utility on the team

Neither are perfect swords for her, and both are better used on other characters.. Which is why i hope she gets her own sword someday

[edgy citrus]

I wanna build her as a burst dmg dealer what should my Stats/artifacts be

Assuming double/triple hp not sure if crit dmg circelt or hp

[idle turret]

Any hopes for kuki buff in the (allegedly) 2.8 beta tomorrow?

[hollow cipher]

do we even know of anything in the 2.8 beta atm?

havent heard anything about it

[median fractal]

There hasn't been a preload yet for dataminers so nope. Only the crumbs about islands

[hollow cipher]

ahh fair enuf

[haughty mural]

So is kuki OP now with the new sword leak

(i know its detail hasn't been leaked just yet lol)

[alpine dock]

[modern ice]

Dendro will bring kuki into the meta

[unique sphinx]

That sword might enable us to use 4ToM with HP/Electro/Crit and still retiain dmg for both E and Q

if R1 is 15% atk then R5 would be 30% atk which would get Kuki to have 71.3% atk if we add in the substat

so in all Kuki would get 94.6% Hp and 91.3% atk from main stats set bonus and weapon and ascension alone

[calm ice]

Kuki kopers still alive? 👀

[green dagger]

No

Im even considering skipping her cause of Heizou now

[opal crane]

The new sword is a buff to her right?... right?

[unique sphinx]

Ya.... probably

[opal crane]

Do we know if it is gacha or the rarity of it?

[unique sphinx]

it's a 4 star and most likely tied to some event

it has a 541 base atk which makes is simillar to the playstation sword

this part worries me cuz if it's anything like that then R1 would be its max and it would be tied to some event which is not available for everyone

[soft isle]

Can kuki battery a beidou?

[amber plover]

With fav sword and maybe some higher ER on Beidou, most probably

[grand willow]

that sword looks more like an ayato/electrokeq budget sword

esp if free r5

[haughty mural]

What, the new one?

Idk why those two would need it

But I've seen nothing to suggest it's a 4* yet

[haughty mural]

We get a free event wep in 2.7
They've been pretty consistent about a free event weapon every 2 patches, alternating between free wep and free character.
.. If it's a 4* it's likely a gacha exclusive

[idle turret]

we're already getting a bow, though

[haughty mural]

that's what i was saying about 2.7

[idle turret]

ah. I see

[noble elbow]

is shinobu's burst like amber's, where it hits randomly within the aoe, or like ganyu's where damage is centered around enemies
and the more grouped enemies, the higher overall damage the burst does

[grand willow]

its on honey and ambr

https://genshin.honeyhunterworld.com/db/weapon/w_1315/?lang=EN

atk sub seems high for the base atk but idk

might be placeholder

[alpine dock]

This is a sword

[grand willow]

at any rate with those current stats it beats all of the current 4*s except black sword i think

for anyone who uses normal attacks

[spare torrent]

Well, it literally says "Test" for its passive...

lol

[grand willow]

well it has no r5 so idk

[unique sphinx]

The weapon we get in 2.7 is a bow and this sword appeared on 2.8 beta with only R1 listed and the same base atk as the playstation sword and Predator bow(Aloy's bow) both of which are capped at R1 have the same base atk and substat which made me believe it could be a part of some outside collab due to which it's name is also hidden

[haughty mural]

Oooooooo collab would be cool
But the sword series looks like redhorn to me

[cold pumice]

Switch release sword

[haughty mural]

Oh perfect, I'll put it on my Mario collab character

[simple cypress]

It would be Kirby and he would be Anemo

[unique sphinx]

honestly I just want it to be a normal R5 able event weapon cuz colab weapons are often hard to get and that sword looks really cool so I want it to be easier to obtain

[alpine dock]

It does

[unkempt ginkgo]

I've been trying to put my finger on this since yesterday,thanks

[onyx crag]

Hi I would like to ask if she uses Vermillion artifs ?
I'm about to feed one that has healing bonus with hp% , hp substats

[lucid ginkgo]

is haran a good enough stat stick to replace rancour for a physical kuki, i have a random haran sitting in my inventory and nobody to use it with rn lol

[lament cargo]

she doesn't afaik

[onyx crag]

Thanks just thought about it since she reduces life as well

[last flare]

you need constant health drain for Vermillion to make sense. Shinobu is similar to Hu Tao in that regard, they only loose health when using their E, once in a while

[young kayak]

How am I suppose to digest the pinned "Artifact comparison"? That Cinnabar-Husk looks promising on its own.

[cosmic isle]

suggestion for Kuki weapon without removing the ones I have from anyone? (dont speak to me about kazuha i like it better on him ) (ping replies please, I get lost in here 😢)

[tawdry bone]

pjc / fav

[last flare]

Favonius

[cosmic isle]

Pcj?

[tawdry bone]

primordial jade cutter

[runic rock]

I'm running favonius as she is going on my Eula/Rosaria/Zhongli team to help battery Eula and provide more phys shred

[real trench]

freedom sworn if you arent planning on giving it to anyone

fav is a safe call otherwise

also why r5 lvl 1 amenoma and r5 lvl 1 alley

so many high refines sac swords too

hahhahaa

[tardy cosmos]

iron sting or freedom sworn

[cosmic isle]

I keep and refine everything for future characters. But I don't level them since I don't know them or who will use them

Would be a waste of mats currently

[runic rock]

I was planning on doing that but I doubt I’ll have the summons to get it

[real trench]

the summons for what?

[idle turret]

Is that not freedom sworn on your inventory? Or is it broken pines?

Oh no it's freedom sworn. Wyd not putting it on anyone

[runic rock]

Not my post I haven posted my box

[runic rock]

Freedom Sworn I wasn’t the guy who posted his weapon box

[real trench]

oh lmao sorry i ddnt notice

[idle turret]

My bad

Mixed up the pfps somehow

[grand galleon]

could kuki viably battery any energy hungry electro char? (yae, beidou, lisa maybe) or is that job left to fischl and raiden

[unique sphinx]

Nope atleast not until intensify is a thing...

[sick lava]

Could I get some advice on which sword to give Kuki?

I was thinking fav sword, but mine is only R1, sadly

Would amenoma be good?

[pastel brook]

that iron sting would be good I think, if you're okay with taking it from kaeya

[solar crest]

Would Kuki use Tenacity of the Millileth? I've been farming it for her and I'm hoping that's the correct set 😅

[runic rock]

Yeah ToM is currently her best option only choice is hp or healing hat

[solar crest]

ty 🙂

[winged furnace]

What’s her bis weapon?

[runic rock]

Currently BiS is freedom sworn IMO

[noble elbow]

probably should've asked this like 4 weeks ago but do any of shinobu's abilities snapshot

[olive coral]

Ohhhhh now it works

[green wave]

What if you don’t have freedom sworn?

[cold pumice]

Ironsting and Dark iron sword work

But you could also just use fav or sac

[tardy cosmos]

welcome to copium central, new kuki copers

[cold pumice]

I ran out long ago

[high bone]

Quick kuki build and weapon

[cold pumice]

teancity of the millelith hp/hp/hb

and then weapon is fav i guess. or sac or ironsting or dark iron sword

[high bone]

Doesn't she have almost 0 downtime on e?

How about favonious sword?

[cold pumice]

If you have a 30s roation yes

You can't E twice in most roations

its a 15s cd

Unless you have sac or cdr

[high bone]

What is her e duration?

[cold pumice]

12s

[high bone]

Means 3 sec downtime?

[cold pumice]

If you use it off cooldown yes

but you own't in most rotations

[high bone]

Does sac allow her to make 2 rings?

[cold pumice]

It shouldn't

[high bone]

Okk

[cold pumice]

Just resets the cd so you have a potential to use it a second time in some temas if you hav e ahigh enough refine

[high bone]

Does c2 allow her to have e at 0 sec downtime?

[cold pumice]

If you use it off cooldown yes

But again, you won't in most teams

[high bone]

Okk..thanks for explaining

[tardy cosmos]

tenacity em/em/hb

[civic obsidian]

Triple EM kuki viable?

[tall holly]

.

[foggy plume]

Does shinobu's passive buff the entire team's dmg or only hers?

[novel iron]

the EM passive? only her and it's very insignificant

[foggy plume]

So i just throw hp at her?

[median sapphire]

yes

and ig if you get EM subs its not a dead stat?

[novel iron]

depends on how you want to build her really

what's your desired build?

[foggy plume]

Doesnt her ult scales from hp?

I want her to heal and drop some dmg with her ult

But i guess how i end up building her will depend on how much she heals

[novel iron]

then HP, dmg bonus and CRIT

if you want her to heal more just give her HP HP and CRIT

[foggy plume]

Ok

Thanks

[high bone]

Can anybody explain kuki passive?healing bonus increased by 75% of em and DMG Inc by 25% of em for her e.

Like 100 em gives 75 more hp or 75% healing bonus

[supple snow]

Why even crit then go hp hp hp

[novel iron]

read what he asked for

[tardy cosmos]

( hp x talent scaling + talent scaling bonus + em x passive scaling ) x healing bonus

[void kiln]

How's kuki's dmg with hp scaling?

[cold pumice]

Meh, but if you want damage give her cinnibar spindle and build defense, honestly

[blissful dock]

Fav Kuki perhaps?

Might make a decent Tazer healer. Maybe can slot in for Fischl

[runic rock]

That is how I'm gonna use her when she's not healing on my Eula team but I'm running a healing bonus hat

[rugged pawn]

how much ER do i need for her ToTM HP-HP-HB to work?

which is better? 1st is HB circlet, 2nd is HP circlet

[flint meadow]

is there a weapon ranking list made for kuki depending on the artifact set?

looking to build her 4 pc clam, em/hp/hp and idk what weapon to use

[tough trout]

1st i would say

[paper sigil]

tc folks, are hp and er the more important substats for shinobu’s artifacts? i’m running 4pc maiden with sac sword

[small turtle]

ER if you plan on bursting, HP for more healing

But with sac sword, i can see Hp% is more important

Since you have enough er from the sword itself

And probably from subrolls

[lofty blaze]

What's Kuki Energy Gen like? Her E looks like a Barbara skill so I'm kinda worried.

[small turtle]

45% particle gen per E tick

[lofty blaze]

That's better than 0, I'll take it.

The FAQ mentions that her OHC bubble can reach 10k pop on base, but I currently see no way of reaching that just from her Skill alone. Is there something you have to do to reach it?

[young kayak]

how does Kuki compete in terms of off-field healing/burst heal like Jean? like healing per sec

wait... I can get that info from OHC data in the pins, yeah?

[median sapphire]

Does kuki burst even heal?

[young kayak]

No, only her Skill. I mean, her Heal per sec, e.g., how much can she heal over the duration of her Skill, compared to the heal Jean can do once every 20 sec, or something

[small turtle]

You mean shinobu main FAQ?

[young kayak]

Right, I saw the sheet with 4 Instructor, seems promising for its heal/s (I mean, uptime)

[lofty blaze]

https://incandescentbiblio.wixsite.com/gi-tc/kuki-shinobu
This one, is the one I read.

[small turtle]

10k pop on base so thats 1 pop i assume

[lofty blaze]

According to the healing mastersheet though she heals for 6k every 3 seconds so that's nowhere close to the 11-12k healing every 3 seconds needed for a 10k bubble

[young kayak]

are there calcs on Kuki with OHC vs NO or ToM with respect to team performance?

[small turtle]

Currently dont know any works from kuki mains regarding this FAQ

[median sapphire]

Generally I think ppl agree ToM is better than NO on her

[lofty blaze]

Thanks, I wanna ask the Shinbou Mains discord but their invite on the website is invalid.

[median sapphire]

Both give the same buff and her e has better uptime as well as follows the player around

[small turtle]

[median sapphire]

Plus it gives extra shield strength as well as the same 20% atk as NO

[young kayak]

Healing and Shielding does not really go hand-in-hand, but I get your point.

[median sapphire]

Like say ur playing itto teams and you don’t use zhongli, you could use crystallize shields + ToM kuki for survivability

[young kayak]

Now, that you mention, it was actually my plan.
Itto Gorou GMC Kuki, idk if OHC or ToM, but on 2nd thought, I will get OHC on same domain I get arti for Itto

[slim blaze]

hey guys what is shinobu's BiS sword?

[slim blaze]

alrighty!!

[simple cypress]

Healing master sheet with OHC and HP/HP/HB is just shy of 4k heal per tick. With 3 ticks per bubble, it adds up to just about 10k dmg per pop

[lofty blaze]

The bubble pops in 3.5s, while Kuki heals every 1.5s, so the bubble would take two ticks only, right?
Or am I missing something?

[simple cypress]

0s - first heal, bubble starts
1.5s - second heal
3s - third heal, bubble pops

[lofty blaze]

Oh there's a heal at 0s. X.x

[simple cypress]

Yeah.. the heal that triggers the bubble counts toward it

We also assume that the third heal should count right before the bubble pops because a similar timing works for Sayu+OHC

[high bone]

Is dark iron sword good for kuki....i thought she doesn't benifit from attack %

[rugged pawn]

its not attack % though? theres picture attached

it’s an em sword

if you’re talking about the passive, her e dmg still scales off atk

[silent stratus]

So now just tell me the best weapon and artifact for her without complex explanation

[silent stratus]

As a healer

[cold pumice]

@junior ice

[junior ice]

oh itts here

weird its a thread i cant even see it

[green wave]

I know that Kuki isn’t a five star but how much healing can i expect from her? Im gonna be using HP/HP/HP if i do decide to build her

[proud acorn]

Idk about weapon but best set would be totm4pc her e is great at proc the passive

[silent stratus]

Healer totm?

[icy granite]

Does Kuki provide anything to teams other than healing or is she near useless?

[novel iron]

near useless

[junior ice]

build milelith 4set

but mainstat build heal i guess

or just go dmg

[icy granite]

Nice

[icy granite]

Feels like a waste of resources to blame so I’ll just ignore her

[junior ice]

well she still useful with milelith tho

so far she is the best 4star support that can use milelith well

duration longer than fischl oz

and also hit enemy and proc milelith better

if u have c1 with bigger aoe is even better

but i think the ring cant hit venti turnado

[icy granite]

I don’t think I’ll get a unit and build it just for an artifact set

Like I would’ve maybe done it if her dmg is good

[junior ice]

u can build healing too

i think i will play her with ayato

ayato team lack of healer