#kuki-theorycrafting
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Just make him Pyro claymore then but with the atk speed of Vermillion Knight from Honkai
I all ik is ayato and sucrose need a decent amount and Mona needs a lot
Or give his ult multiple charges or something idk
yeh mona is supposed to be built with er though
I'm having a feeling Varka is Cryo
thats why her bis is eosf too but personally have no problems with her burst ever being off cooldown with freeze or in ayato team
just asking if kuki adds to the team
since my fischl is with yae
He's called boreas knight or something
Boreas immune to anemo and cryo so it's either or
doesn't mean he is cryo
Make him hydro for the memes
that just a title
Nah geo cuz Noelle can relate
Varka as ameno is more likely
Anemo melee catalyst 
he gonna be dps 100%
Varks gonna be first gauntlet user. Hes gonna use the lawachurl model
Physical catalyst
No 
Good idea i'll do that
Pls yes and make them shred anemo res 
I think it would be weird for Varka NOT to wield a claymore
Imagine a 7 foot tall man known for his immense strength wielding a rapier
he also taught razor to use a claymore iirc 
Yeah, he should be the one taught razor to use claymore
How much does kuki heal per tick? And how many ticks does she heal for?
at c0 she ticks 8 times at c2 it becomes 10 as for how much she heals idk
No no. Think HoF but catalyst anemo
The main point is that HoF uses pistols as equipables but her weapon in combat is a claymore.
Apply that logic to Anemo Melee catalyst Varka 
Another stance change unit 
Unless his normal attacks are anemo claymore and his E is massive anemo cleave that absorbs elements and uses them against the opponent just don't fight a slime
lmao, that reminds me of Klee's release. Diluc was better because he could kill slimes
Simpler times
Oh I forgot about that
Hm
Yeah Varka is anemo claymore that focuses on boosting atk speed for himself specifically
kuki buffs in lockdown, sorry
god i wish
varka gonna have itto body type 
I'll take it, as long as he got some thicc armor 👀
Please
Varka gonna be knight of Favonius equivalent of ||black serpent knight windcutter ||
When u think about it, razor kinda cracked lorewise
Learned electro from lisa and claymore from varka
Also we can probably rule out varka being electro because razor learned electro from lisa
varka didn't seem to do a great job seeing the way that claymore swings him around 
I mean, why did they even teach the kid to use a claymore
So he would stop biting people
Idk what we're talking about but i just would like to assert that I'm looking forward to Kuki's 100% uptime on E-healing
Follows the current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for the active character based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.
i hate how this is making me think her dmg is based of max hp 
And her Q damage
^
Wait am i understanding Kuki correctly are are skills basically just
Qiqi e and Amber Q
ya
Yes, except Kuki's E makes particles as far as I know
why does that q exist tbh
like is there any use of it
except for cleanse? is that a function or just flavor text
It is not cleanse 🙃 It is just damage based on HP, but not very strong. If Kuki have low HP then it will last longer to do more damage
right i was asking more because sometimes a kit function is also in the flavor text so i was wondering if anyone checks out this part yet to see if she cleanses
like how this part describes yelan cc
There is video of her skills and burst and it is similar to Amber, just circle in front of Kuki it does multiple hit AOE damage
gotcha
We just hope for buff tomorrow 
ganyu E also mention some kind of cleanse, it's just flavor
Cleanse it is not game term I think. For debuff cleanse the game word it is apply element to character
Oh it is Monday
Today it is Sunday for my time
Hope any utility added to Kuki, replace the A4..
Does not need to be very strong... Just not so bad

Kuki will be cracked, ||or at least passable
||, when I wake up tomorrow

does kuki scale of elemental mastery?
Is there supposed to be a buff on Monday (4/11)?
Let's hope they make her E dmg scale of HP
But is it confirmed there's a beta update on Monday? Or is that just a theory?
Todays Monday
Fuckin' timezones man
Does anyone have a countdown to the next theorized beta update?
Why are we saying we're getting Shinobu changes, or hoping to, soon?
So is this a guaranteed thing or just a theorized thing?
Ah, okay
I just recall seeing a lot of "Beta update tomorrow let's hope for changes" in here and then nothing ever happened
It's 11:51 PM for me here
yeah for east us its usually like 6-8 am monday
Well I hope to wake up to Shinobu buffs
May we finally have our powerhouse
Could someone explain Kuki’s skills to me they seem really confusing and how does she look as a DPS ?
Her E create a circle around her that hits enemies every 1.5s for 12s (15s CD). A;sp hea;s active character. Dmaage scales of ATK and healing off HP
Q is amber burst but HP scaling
I'm looking forward to her but I still wish they were a bit more creative 
What do you mean? Her burst goes up, unlike Amber's, which goes down!

It's also a little like xinyans
The skill tho, rly is just qiqi/barb skill man
yet I'm still gonna eat that shit up
At least Qiqi/Barbara can heal co-op teammates
yeahhhhh talkin abt skill alone tho
Let's hope the there are real kuki buffs this time unlike just icon changes like it has been so far
makes sense cuz kuki is meant to do a little damage
even if it's not a crazy amount
Whereas qiqi and barb aren't
Ya Shinobu seems to be a healer that focuses on dmg more than utility so far so it makes sense for her dmg to be decent
I certainly hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling the Shinobu we're seeing is our launch Shinobu
Pretty much all of the focus is on Yelan and nothing on Shinobu, so unless a bunch of beta testers start complaining about her and we get some sort of focus on her, I doubt there'll be anything
True since Yelan is looking like a Xinqiu sidegrade everyone cares way more about her
We ended up with Thoma and based on what I see here, Thoma sucks, so if he got in without changes, I see Shinobu following the same path
I doubt enough testers are even spending enough time testing Shinobu
Although who knows, maybe people see "hot ninja gang member" and she's loved by beta testers and Mihoyo will buff the hell out of her
rip thoma I love him as a character but I have absolutely no reason to build him
Idk how that even happened since he was the only new character that patch
They're 4*s, guess Mihoyo has really stopped caring about them considering how broken Sara was for a while
Wait do you mean she was bugged?
Yeah, the teleport on her skill barely worked for what, two versions straight?
It teleported you less than half the distance and a lot of the time it barely moved you a foot
Oh ya I did hear about it... I didn't really build her cuz I didn't have many cons on her
Imo the best thing they can do for Shinobu and not make her totally broken is making her E dmg scale off of HP I think her E being op is justified cuz she has to loose hp on activation
Honestly just give her the ability to heal co-op teammates so I can build her in a stupid way and bring her into co-op with friends
That's all I want
To be honest all healers should just be able to do that, there's no reason to not be able to heal co-op teammates
they really should split them up. shinobu group, yelan group and mixed group
Again, I doubt people want to test her until buffs come
do we know what's Kuki's ICD? Does her E proc reactions every tick or every 2 ticks?
But aren't the ticks every 1.5 second? It would mean that there are 3 seconds between 2 ticks so every second ticks should proc reaction no?
Oh okey
Well, I hoped they would make her so that she would proc every tick but I guess it's not that bad
She can be used for overload I guess
where buffs 
if its 7, 4 hour and 10 minutes left
How bad even is Kuki as say, the healer + SC in a Eula team
Is it bad because Fischl + a different healer would just be better than using an electro healer in Kuki
I don't believe her to be particularly bad, with 4pc ocean she can be quite playable
i havent calc kuki being the solo electro in a eula comp as of yet
how many ticks do kuki has per e? do she heal every ticks?
12/15s, literally 8/10 ticks
still works
Hmm Idk if I should use Clam set or millelith
im trying to see if aloy can fit, removing a 2nd electro and just making kuki solo electro
and without kuki bursting
So many option for kuki, idk what weapon or artifact set to use anymore lol
I think most useful option for general build is Tenacity and Favonius sword
It is team attack buffs with 100% uptime, improve her heals, and help for team energy also
Kuki E - 1 second
Rosaria EQ - 2 seconds
Eula tEQ N4 hE N4 - 10 seconds
Aloy EE - 2 seconds
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Rosaria E - 1 second
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Aloy Q - 2 seconds
= 22 seconds
so much eula funneling particles
Finally Aloy has some use
Oh, I was using the old version
just never burst on kuki
Nice, Eula can run no er now
U can still burst with some er substat I think, burst for more reliable fav proc maybe
yeah i could do that
since fav gives 60+
i just need 6 dist i think
nvm its 4
fuck cdmg
yea, in that rotation her burst is optional
Kuki QE - 2 second
Rosaria EQ - 2 seconds
Eula tEQ N4 hE N4 - 10 seconds
Aloy EE - 2 seconds
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Rosaria E - 1 second
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Aloy Q - 2 seconds
= 23 seconds
alternate QE with EQ on kuki could also be applicable
Yeah, thats what I will run, she gonna steal zhongli artifact
Then gonna build petra zhongli
Bro who pinged
No kuki buffs again it seems
No kuki buff

pain
you mean theres buffs? 
buffed?
seem like they just added a "total dmg" thing ?

not a buff but a description ?
ye the single instance is the same
it's the same, still 7 hits
that's rounding lol
kekw
ye just round up
you can see the total is using 7.66
it looks kinda.. eh
i know .. t13 is 7.66 currently 
also lemme kapp for a second man 
just one more week 
also mihoyo :
"preparing to nerf Kuki .. cuz why not
"
ill literally riot if yelan gets a buff instead of kuki
:))
they nerfed her .. now she cant abuse C6 Raiden 
c6 Raiden havers crying in the corner 

Imma wait for the Razor explanations
yes it's the same they just added a total damage line
k e k w
HYV just doesn't give a single fuck
at least yelan c2 been nerf a little
they need you to see how bad the ability is
xd
dont worry next week 
not even, it's a slight buff or equal
for real i knew it was low but this really puts it into perspective
You have 2 more weeks to Cope

2 more weeks of Kuki is not real
scar is typing
phys kuki 
not even a buff? 🤡
Mond and Liyue 4* looking like 5* right now compared to this mess 😭 we said no power creep not flat out pointless
why can't kuki simply be like gorou and be niche but basically necessary
and not flat out be bad or barely mediocre at everything she does
the thing is, gorou fills a niche that no other unit does
and it was sorta obviously needed
yeah that's why i used him as an example
If she was going to be the Electro healer then she should at least have her kit focus mainly on that and have her heal more
i dont think there is such a niche that kuki could fill right now, except dendro electro reaction

so true
That’s literally the only hope (cope) we have right now, that the reactions somewhat buff Electro
scar is that all that we got in this beta update?
AKANE 
i hope that the reaction would fit kuki's icd and shit
seems so
like
since yae also has the same EM talent on a DoT ability, i actually think it might be the case
wtf is mihoyo doing?
"intensify"
not that that would make kuki much better because there will just be better users of that reaction with a better base kit 
its the full one already
making another armpit character?
even the name fits
it's not an amplifying reaction tho
I mean they nerfed the reaction so they’re already trolling 🥲
bruh, this girl has potential 
but i feel like fischl would still be the better 4 star option at literally everything
*had 
considering stringless gives EM too, yeah probably xd
How is she now
Focusing on the 5* 😔
useless as her a4
What do we know rn about dendro reactions
ngl i am NOT complaining about fischl being the queen of subdps units
Like what the hell is intensified
so basically, nothing is changed
i think that dendro electro might be something like taking a % of an opponents hp and the % scales off em exclusively
we know nothing except for burning
Liyue 5, you know they don’t play with those 
we know nothing, romany had an idea that it could be similar to volatile from destiny
What was the intiensified and overdosed april 1 tweet
we know that it's nor transformative nor amplifying
so im just~~ coping~~ speculating with that
omg r u kidding me
they did change her E desc on english
v1: Follows the current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for the active character based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.
v2: Follows your current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for active the character within the ring based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.
THATS IT???
Rip kuki copers another week without buffs....
fuck wordings 
well if it's really taking a % off the enemies hp then it would still be op even if the multipliers were nerfed
she's broken now

one thing i dislike about electro phys- units is that there isnt a cryo applier as comfy as fischl or raiden
wait
she is very good, but not as press and forget
who even co-ops when everyone is fr 10
ye but they are tied to burst so it's less comfy but they are good

BRUHH
not as comfy as raiden but
isn't fischl also tied to her burst
ye fischl is kinda
fischls burst isnt really a burst imo
in what way /genq
its skill x 2, practically no time where it wont be up
my fischl is lvl 1 so 💀
and just as press and forget
ohh
because oz generates too many particles
still raiden is the comfiest electro applier
This is kinda irritating to see..them doing nothing about how underwhelming Shinobu is
I don't want another Thoma
scar, i will be happy if you tell me that her tick dmg scales of her hp now

i think even thoma might have more use than her
😔
the chinese one stays still

she's like a worse electro sayu
😭 i wish
sayu actually good
jack of no trades
welp, 2.8 heizou will not be the same as kuki
sayu is good however she's basically a nerfed jean
i pray 
Ya Yelan's 1.5U might make Thoma usable in Hu Tao teams
If heizou is the only character in 2.8 surely he doesn't get neglected right 
c
thoma 
i am coping that heizou will be good
what i do not understand is, why the heck did they not make kuki a dedicated support
cc healer please
Heizou is anemo right so at the very least he can be carried by VV 
not even a shred or something
they wouldn't release a unit like that out of nowhere
for who though, for yae?
barbara got hydro damage bonus 
this brings me to my next cope point , dendro electro reaction
There isn't any specific character for her to support although they could have made her Ayato specific for EC and all....
raiden and fischl would still do a much better job
where?
Pass some of the copium 
even if dendro electro reaction would be good why wouldn't you use an electro character that has a better base kit
oh this too
Electro sucks electro needs an amp reaction
its hard to out-do two of the best units in the game regardless xd
c2
like, fischl is a unit who managed to not get powercrept by raiden
A dedicated support for tazer team would be perfect, just good healing + battery for Beidou + shred or buff on a constellation
That's what happens when you
-demand 0 field time
-attack off field
-have 0 energy requirements

generate so many particles that rivals an in element battery
and yet
😔
hello Kuki TC how does the beta changes affect her?
Unfortunatly Hoyoverse made her average in healing and battery
fischl is still better than raiden in overload comps i think
they didn't change anything just text
and in some ec comps
absolutely nothing yes.
Kuki Sub DPS 
Fischl not needing field time gives her a lot of niches basically, and the best part is you can use raiden and fischl together lol
kuki physical is the way 
Raifish is overpowered
JUST MAKE HER DIONA LEVELS OF ENERGY HOYO 😭
oh yeah raifish is insane
but if you use raiden only for her e she doesn't really need field time as well, for example in eula raiden
Are her auto mvs even good enough for phys
Raiden gets field time in eula raiden
Can't imagine so seeing as she's a 4*
if she didn't, fischl would be better there
😔
she uses her q?
they are pretty decent but her base attack is bad and she has hp% ascension

Yeah, eula is one of the few carries that can afford to give her the field time
To battery during downtime
ohhhhhh
its essentially a dual-carry comp
well that's nice
cyno 
Can't wait for cyno coping 
diona good battery, has shield, buff and healing,,, 😭
give kuki better energy regen pls 🙏
Gotta get through heizou coping first
At least Yun Jin's pretty good as a recent 4*
Gigabuffing anyone that spams nas
Although she is from Liyue
She is also pretty niche, albeit a useful one
yun jin and gorou have a solid use sara aswell to a lesser extent sayu is okay and thoma is thoma
Man this is gonna be the trend till snez huh
CN hates JP. At least Sumeru is like Egypt? Surely Egypt won't be bad
middle east*
If you ain't an og or a liyue 4* you're screwed 😔
and india aswell
Sayu's decent
Then why are the 5* so good 
Meanwhile Raiden Ayaka Kazuha Ayato dabbing on the meta
natlan is going to be Philippines it's going to be horrible
Though that's just her carried by vv and healing 
It's Latin America and west Africa 
At least she has vv
😔
oh did they change it? soru saw that one in the wiki
Better being carried by a set than dead on arrival unfortunately
fontaine should be save right france is cool
Gorou's alright if you play Itto or Noelle and useless if you don't
Sara's alright if you play Raiden and useless if you don't
No it was always those 2 
everyone hates france
Sara is only at c6 though
Otherwise use Lisa w ttds
but everyone loves baguettes
Fontaine is Hydro
It's sad though Hoyoverse telling Kuki to eat dirt and she doesn't even have a geo vision 
but hates france
It is impossible for Hydro to be bad
Change my mid
😔
do you ?
Still not bad
😔
Even barbara with her negative damage, negative particle gen, turbo useless cons can be useful. Hydro supremacy
Subarbamon 
damn
Yo have you seen clam bara
Free bubble pops
Says who 
They should make kuki a catalyst so she can hold ttds 
nah man u gotta pay for freedom sworn
Catalysts aren't even limited to just ttds

you could even use prototype amber so she would have decent healing
Yeah this set revived both barb and Qiqi, clam too strong
I'd take it honestly


when is it my turn to be happy
you could try being a yelan stan instead
u arent in the queue
her design is so good but the kit
Who.. who knows she can fit
mihoyo pov ^
are you trying to make koko crit in a freeze team? 
There's plenty of bench space left where she could fit
No I just wanted a freeze team and didn't want to use xq 
I'll take anything 
sus, but why diona?
Cba dodging abyss national bs 
Her best comp is teapot

Yelan is my 5* hydro 

welp
I only love Shenhe and Kuki double expedition rewards
time to sheet eula aloy rosa kuki
Heizou leaks when 
her e is particle regen but like,,, its has a 50% chance or something??? does that mean that if ur filipino enough you won't get any particles
more time to read her abilities less time spend using her
mihoyo is taking care of him...hopefully
Kuki just powercrept Fischl Bennett Sara Chongyun and Keqing
Unironically
Who cares about these garbage
When you have this

I only claim one expedition for the bp quest
Kuki S tier confirmed
for expeditions
but I guess that one can have extra stuff 
See Kuki da best
hehe
235 doable 
just a E bot
set burst every 90+s
and multiply skill usage
to how many times over said itme frame


what the heal
fuck burst
So, they really are buffing Yelan c2 and nothing for Cookie. That has to be a joke
If, say Cookie had the same energy gen like Fischl, would she be balanced?

she would still do barely anything besides generate energy but that's something
yeah

battery + healer = electro diona, give shield at cons
Do we already know her particle gen
scrap c6, make it a shield cons
45% for one every tick
she becomes a defensive option that can hold freedom sworn or something
decent enough
I hate that I can read some honey comments about kuki and actually agree with them 
that's a first
Some of the comments are actually reasonable 
blame mihoyo for being downbad for yelan
it's the armpits

i see a lot of people on copium so basically the same as here 
brothers and sisters in arms
You have become honey
Kuki still bad 
Thought kuki became good with that hp scaling...
Kuki good after buff ?
it looks like just a description change to show total damage
When you dont do expedition in inazuma cuz no ores or fowls or sweetflower

There's fowls in inazuma wdym
I only need them to buff kuki particle generation to same level as fischl so that beidou team has healer
It's in an island that wasn't there at inazuma launch but there's fowls in inazuma expeditions
That's where sara perpetually hangs out in 
No buff 

I never thought shinobu would be a good cinnabar spindle user
The lack of an appropriate sword makes her "versatile" at the cost of being mid-bad 
Where's my Kuki buffs

I want to cry

You're the one who asked for this 
I felt that
Kuki pizza
I'm in the mood to predict Heizou now. 
Hopefully I'm wrong 
Does this update make kuki worse? The total burst dmg implies 12 hits instead of 13.. did we get a nerf instead?


there's still a chance for tomorrow right haha
...
If they buffed her particle gen she'd be so good that's the only thing I want
Her burst would be less underwhelming if there were ways to buff it other than VV/Kazuha
There could be some

C6 Sara? 

Last time I came here she was just there

She’s the exact same 
Well
So basically just a healer for mono electro teams
I'm guessing she will get some backlash
Backlash? Thoma got released without any lmao
My issue with her is that she doesn’t excel at any one thing, everything is subpar
And isn’t Thoma supposedly good with Tao?
hyv did thoma so dirty
Sounds like a jack of all trades

Except not since they deleted that part in the drip marketing
looking more like subpar at all trades 😩
So kuki buffed burst ??
Whats a good artif set for kuki?
Tenacity of Chinese police or fake clam healers
Is primordial jade cutter her only salvation
And that other ugly blue sword
like someone said before, she's a wack of all trades 
It already barely does any damage, and the buff is so minor it doesn’t make a big difference. Either we cope for Dendro reactions or Kuki is eternally benched 🥲
And being able to use ToM, at least that’s something
What burst buff
Numbers are the same
@crimson oasis burst confirmed to be 7/12 hits. Time to nerf dmg in the sheet

So there is no buffs today ?
it is actually less damage than we had thought ?
It is so sad
Even with it, she seems kinda 
Pention to change the thread name from kuki-theorycrafting to kuki-kopers
Thats right
she got reverse buffed
My name is catching on 
I did not think she can become worse but she did 
Rip dookie shinobu 
C4 Yanfei can do what he does but better
even with C6 XQ he sometimes steal vape
for some reason they also think that him ascending with Atk% instead of HP% or ER% is a good idea
Thats because offense is the best defense
They didn't want to make his a4 passive not painful 
uh, so Thoma hp passive and Kuki C4 are mostly the same in terms of dps
I wonder why they're aiming at that specific level of awfulness
Kuki she have good ascension stat at least over Thoma 🙃
The day we get an HP% sword is the day future Kuki mains win
uhm.. this might sound dumb but i saw the calcs for kuki regarding artifacts, apparently def boosts E damage tick afaik it’s hp scaling what am i missing?
Kuki talents damage is so low, that if using Defense build with cinnabar spindle weapon, the passive effect from the sword it is more strong to her damage over regular build
oooohhh now i get it. thanks for the enlightenment

sumeru will come in clutch stay strong my brother in christ 🙏
LOL! I fear it’ll only come in Fontaine 😭 but yes Sumeru come through with the swords and reactions

its even good? 
true, Physical Akali seems very fun to play
i might actually 
i have a nice PF feather
and im farming totm anyways
its aquila>rancour right
oml
Aquila or Jade cutter. That is the question
Man kuki is arse
Does it worth it to give Kuki Jade cutter? Just got Ayato his toy so my Jade cutter is free to be used. Normally goes on Jean, but wondering if Kuki will like it too
Better on Jean
Any good news
No, she’s had no changes 
Thoma is no longer gonna be the worst 4* /j
Just give her res shred Oml
only just this small change
it doesn't matter it didn't buff anything


I thought change it is worse because it is 12 hits not 13 like thought before
either we miscalculated or it's just something from hyv
is kuki's C4 just like fischl's A4 but lower uptime?
yes, but kuki's c4 just needs the active character to use a normal, charged, or plunge attack while the grass ring is up to proc it. fischl's a4 needs an electro reaction
Honestly they should make Kuki's c4 her A4
Has anyone looked into physical Kuki
Everyone is saying pale flame because it has 100% uptime
But her scaling isn't the greatest sooo

Her design is the greatest 😌
Her animations are the greatest
Are her heals not okay?
If I can just get that from her and up time on ToM then will be fine with her
THeyre okay with an asterix
She only heals the active character
including in co-op
And also she provides nothing else except ToTM which is very disaapointing if you're a helaer
After all this time get electro healer only to be done dirty
Will just wait for 5 star one they'll get the good treatment
can kuki reach max clam proc dmg off field? with high investment
Yeah, thought so...
Getting kinda sad ... The 4* from Inazuma are a bit disappointing, exceptions are the Sara and Gorou very specific role and at C6
It's not like I want them to make Kuki as brocken as Bennet, but deam... Give that girl some love
No, they’ll buff her next Monday trust

Just give her res shred 
Has anyone looked into pyro Kuki?
tbh even Electro traveller does res shred . Pls let kuki res shred 
When u think of diona utility kekw
I also thought the barrier description on her ult was a shield but it seems like a cleanse
Or its nothing and it's just a description
It is just a description 🙃 She just have amber burst
F
i updated it to 12 ticks on her Q
im struggling to decide what stats i should get for kuki im farming 4 pc tenacity but idk what stats i should do
i looked at the google doc comparing artifacts and sets but im struggling to decide which one to pick
link to this?
check their bio
puffy the sheet secretary
not even close

It’s that bad???
She heals one character at a time, she would need to heal liek 10K per tick
its been changed
desc said characters inside the ring
probably can be used for co-op hugging the other player

at level 13 talent with 50k HP she will heal about 4k per 1.5s, so 8k per bubble total
and i don't even know if 50k HP is attainable
Not with a hyealing bonus circlet
Max HP rolls gets me liek 43K with R5 PJC
With a HP circlet, 46K
Def shred on kuki kit where
not for sword or claymore class yet but polearm, catalyst, and bow can
gonna be real awkward 
Co-op player: "wait wait! don't move!"
+3000 hp
"wait---- wait---"
+3000 hp
"just one more tick"
+3000 hp
"all good"

we still dont know if it does work on co-op
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Random thought: Kuki as Itto healer? Compared to Bennett and Kokomi she could trade buffing and uptime for the fact that her healing will always be on Itto and will always max vs Bennett's stationary circle, 75% cap and kind of useless ATK buff and Kokomi's stationary jellyfish and also kinda useless Tenacity ATK buff
Her periodic electro thwomps could also work towards periodic Electro shields
perhaps it can gain value among Zhongli havers? Since if you have a built Diona you could always use her instead
just some random thoughts someone can diss me for ever having 
That's what I'm thinkin, also gotta reunite the gang members
when everyone says that Kuki will be very bad, thats for 9 staring abyss 12 right? Will she be okay to use everywhere else?
yes outside of abyss she'll be more than good enough
eula kuki aloy shenhe was a mistake
With the correct teams 9 starring with kuki should be fairly easy
Although that applies to any char 
I think she'll be fine in abyss on the right teams
Likely electro charge if you need a healer
Something like Ayato-Fischl-Kuki-Kazuha? 🤔
How is it looking guys
She is not very strong 
she's not strong at all*
i love how kuki tc is like one message per hour and yelan tc is literal chaos

There is no confirming on rewording of elemental skill yet right? If it is work in co op ?
I don't know if Beta players can do co op
Damage aside, how is her healing if I just build her as a healing bot?
@subtle finch
Thoughts on Sucrose Yoimiya Kuki Yunjin?
It is okay but it heals only one character at a time and not for co op right now
the wording now says "active character within the ring" so probably works in co-op
but if she's constantly healing herself in co-op, she's going to have sad heals :<
Okay, it make her heal weaker and also weaker damage because it heal herself :(
But it is also good to have character that can heal co op team only using skill, not burst, with not needing to attack enemies. only Kokomi have that using jellyfish
This is my goal too
no icd on e make it happen
pls I’ll even build her full healer just pls

At this rate the BP is gonna get buffs before Kuki does
I mean, she works but itto doesnt really need healing imo, especially with c4 gorou
if she provided some sort of battery or a lot of particles, i think she would fit for the role better
because you could cut on the ER% on itto
Yea u run her def-electro-crit .. nd her ES dmg becomes the best among the rest.. in exchange off poopy healing nd weaker Q

so dont run cinnabar, noted
If what u want from kuki is dmg .. cinnabar is a gud option as long as def sands
If not .. yea
is there a google sheets for her best weapon options?
i only see the one for artifacts
i don't know if there is sheets but popular weapon is PJC for crit/hp, Freedom sworn as good team buff, sacrificial sword for short rotations, and favonius as team energy
Thank you!!

@subtle finch online?
or anyone into Shinobu TC basically lol
I heard that apparently if you add up the numbers for Shinobu's ult, it seems like only 12 hits based on that?
I have videos from the new beta (private) showing it's still 13 hits 
in case there was any confusion around that
tested on a single stationary target
If it is 13 hits that is good, but it makes the multipliers need to be updated again
I'm not sure if its possible to be tested in beta but if it can be done; If we can get an confirmation if Shinobu's Elemental Skill can heal party members that are within the ring (i.e. Co-op settings where in most cases so long as active characters are within the area they'll gain the effects.) I'm doubtful tho, since her skill is similar to both Barbara's and Qiqi's without their added abilities. Tho I'm not sure myself if their rings alone can heal other players
I think she will work okay for Ayato taser but it will likely be less damage than current options that we have
Barbara and Qiqi rings do not heal other players only if she attacks enemies while it is active
Figured as much
Wording it is weird on Kuki but because it is different maybe she can work for co op ? But still, she will make her own heal weaker and damage weaker by heal herself
some people have been wondering about it so I thought to ask on their behalf
Thank you ! I am wondering it too
I think wording is bugged for now, it appeared grammatically incorrect
at least for EN on ambr and honeyhunter

Original it said Active character but new one it said Active character within the ring
It will need to wait for test
Follows your current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for active the character within the ring based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.
"active the character"
but even still I believe its just specification
I hope... So she can do something for co op
granted Sara functions quite similar
Crowfeathers will trigger Tengu Juurai: Ambush after a short time, dealing Electro DMG and granting the active character within its AoE an ATK Bonus based on Kujou Sara's Base ATK.
Yes it is need to be in aoe for effect
It will be easier than other character heals like Diona/Bennett where heal is only in one place, because Kuki can move to other players instead
only dps kuki in coop
Will need to be physical 🙃 She make her own burst weaker

Kuki Yelan/XQ Kazuha/Sucrose Bennett c6
Kuki CA animation already looking better than Keqing’s
time to bring back 13 hits
yes
on a scale of amber to qiqi how bad is she
I think Qiqi as team healer and also subdps with clam is better, better as taser driver also
Thoma

Main comparison idea for teams is to have Kuki as comfort option in taser team, but Qiqi Barbara Kokomi taser team is stronger
Also in mono electro
Replacing sara, she could possibly be better (if paired with kazuha) than Raiden Yae Sara Jean/sucrose
With no new info there's not much else to do for now :‹
I even checked through the chinese to see if there was an update there
but I didn't see one
Kuki is scaramouche support

you mean another png change on her cons/talents and a bunch of Yelan buffs?
poor kuki wanters
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dzRLnjUDKCE-VAgC__jAAB17gczspeEpCW5vzbYRMAI/edit?usp=sharing
any eula enthusiast to check this sheet out? superconduct dmg isnt part of it since i dont know how many procs of superconduct goes and who is procing it.
Overview
Superconduct Eula w/ Kuki
by Akane#0926. Contact me in Discord if you find any mistakes or want a variant to be added.
Template made by Akane#0926
Info Section
Characters,Weapons,Artifacts,Constellation,Talents,DMG,DPS,Contribution
Eula,R1 Akuoumaru,4PC PF,C0,9/9/9,523314.9303,19382.034...
What about switching Raiden to Shenhe, Kuki to ToTm and running shorter rotations with more er? You should be able to get 22-24s rot this way?
you can modify team 9 rotation from twice sheet, doubt zl->kuki will drastically change it.
But generally didn't see much wrong with it, other than being awfully low even for Eula
I already checked twice's sheet and see the difference
I already tried replacing Raiden with Shenhe, dmg goes down. I was planning on replacing Rosa with Shenhe since its EQ anyway
I sacrificed 6% shred for quills is worth
I checked the eula kqm guide from sitri, seems like akuoumaru and r5 sea lord edges it out
But since im using raiden, akuoumaru is the way to go
at least shes best overworld healer 
Or EC
Is kuki good
i mean check the pins but if you literally just read the past chat log you can easily tell
Hey, shes the only non child overworld healer that doesn't force u to stay in circle
so there's her niche ig
You are not wrong
Idk which pyro user benefits from her
Most pyro dps uses bennett anyway
Barb have stam reduction on top of her heal 
mono electro keqing time

Oh wait
keep in mind that when u see low numbers, it's not because u did error
Thats just hyper but replacing kuki with bennett
yea but barb can get you killed a lot since she appiles wet on you

Oceanid creature in benny circle
like i don't understand mihoyo they need to buff kuki
we aren't even asking for a lot
Maybe she'll be more fine than we initially think 
she really not
because what she provides can easily be done by others
with more benefits
At least particle gen buff plz
Mihoyo is truly something special
make her apply electro aura on u so u can go mono electro with jean for electro sunfire 
like they out here buffs/changing yelan when she already good as she was but they refuse to touch kuki
Well they let Thoma come out the way he is
thoma was a flop to begin with in my opinion
Tbf a free 4* shielder besides diona could have been pretty fun
yea
like thoma kit revolves around him refreshing his shield but like it was just to weak
doesn't he have low base HP too
Bennett level op
Deserved to be on the same level as xinyan
Don't lie to me 

How are we coping this week
Is she that bad?
I don't have much idea about her state...I was just thinking of pulling her for ayato


what so bad about her?
every aspect of her kit is mediocre, from healing to dmg to scaling
tenacity making her viable 
her cuteness isn't mediocre 
like is this mediocre compared to 5 star bis, or mediocre compared to 4 star?




