#kuki-theorycrafting

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vapid nest
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and also mona and ayato together keeps their ult up every time

shrewd crescent
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Just make him Pyro claymore then but with the atk speed of Vermillion Knight from Honkai

lament cargo
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I all ik is ayato and sucrose need a decent amount and Mona needs a lot

shrewd crescent
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Or give his ult multiple charges or something idk

vapid nest
deep dune
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I'm having a feeling Varka is Cryo

vapid nest
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thats why her bis is eosf too but personally have no problems with her burst ever being off cooldown with freeze or in ayato team

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just asking if kuki adds to the team

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since my fischl is with yae

deep dune
shrewd crescent
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Boreas immune to anemo and cryo so it's either or

keen sinew
shrewd crescent
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Make him hydro for the memes

keen sinew
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that just a title

deep dune
shrewd crescent
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Geo Varka

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Hmmm

keen sinew
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Varka as ameno is more likely

shrewd crescent
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Anemo melee catalyst C_HuPepeSmile

keen sinew
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he gonna be dps 100%

rain axle
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For sur

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And a sword or claymore 💀

main bay
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Varks gonna be first gauntlet user. Hes gonna use the lawachurl model

shrewd crescent
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Stop the cope people. For I have the true answer.

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Anemo melee catalyst C_HuPepeSmile

icy granite
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Physical catalyst

shrewd crescent
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No E_slapbaka

rare abyss
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Good idea i'll do that

rare abyss
wooden sundial
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I think it would be weird for Varka NOT to wield a claymore

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Imagine a 7 foot tall man known for his immense strength wielding a rapier

lament cargo
static crypt
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Yeah, he should be the one taught razor to use claymore

bleak prairie
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How much does kuki heal per tick? And how many ticks does she heal for?

lament cargo
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at c0 she ticks 8 times at c2 it becomes 10 as for how much she heals idk

shrewd crescent
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No no. Think HoF but catalyst anemo

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The main point is that HoF uses pistols as equipables but her weapon in combat is a claymore.

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Apply that logic to Anemo Melee catalyst Varka C_HuPepeSmile

shrewd crescent
tawdry bone
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lmao, that reminds me of Klee's release. Diluc was better because he could kill slimes

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Simpler times

shrewd crescent
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Oh I forgot about that

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Hm

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Yeah Varka is anemo claymore that focuses on boosting atk speed for himself specifically

bronze trail
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I’m going to wake up in 16 hours and Im going to find kuki buffs

tawdry bone
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kuki buffs in lockdown, sorry

hollow cairn
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varka gonna have itto body type A_WheezeTao

calm ice
median sapphire
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Varka gonna be knight of Favonius equivalent of ||black serpent knight windcutter ||

frosty jewel
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When u think about it, razor kinda cracked lorewise

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Learned electro from lisa and claymore from varka

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Also we can probably rule out varka being electro because razor learned electro from lisa

hollow cairn
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varka didn't seem to do a great job seeing the way that claymore swings him around E_PoliwhirlConcern

frosty jewel
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I mean, why did they even teach the kid to use a claymore

hollow cairn
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So he would stop biting people

haughty mural
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Idk what we're talking about but i just would like to assert that I'm looking forward to Kuki's 100% uptime on E-healing

small turtle
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Follows the current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for the active character based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.

i hate how this is making me think her dmg is based of max hp Copium

cold pumice
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And her Q damage

small turtle
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^

inland ridge
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Wait am i understanding Kuki correctly are are skills basically just

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Qiqi e and Amber Q

cerulean haven
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ya

chrome eagle
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Yes, except Kuki's E makes particles as far as I know

crimson umbra
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why does that q exist tbh

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like is there any use of it

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except for cleanse? is that a function or just flavor text

tiny sedge
crimson umbra
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right i was asking more because sometimes a kit function is also in the flavor text so i was wondering if anyone checks out this part yet to see if she cleanses

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like how this part describes yelan cc

tiny sedge
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There is video of her skills and burst and it is similar to Amber, just circle in front of Kuki it does multiple hit AOE damage

crimson umbra
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gotcha

tiny sedge
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We just hope for buff tomorrow A_HuPray

gaunt pivot
tiny sedge
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Cleanse it is not game term I think. For debuff cleanse the game word it is apply element to character

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Oh it is Monday

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Today it is Sunday for my time

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Hope any utility added to Kuki, replace the A4..

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Does not need to be very strong... Just not so bad

torpid oak
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Kuki will be cracked, ||or at least passable C_HuCryge||, when I wake up tomorrow Copium A_HuPray

tawdry bone
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does kuki scale of elemental mastery?

small turtle
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nope, her a4 allows her to use some of it

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but its Copium

glossy reef
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Is there supposed to be a buff on Monday (4/11)?

unique sphinx
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Let's hope they make her E dmg scale of HPCopium

glossy reef
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But is it confirmed there's a beta update on Monday? Or is that just a theory?

proud acorn
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Todays Monday

glossy reef
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Does anyone have a countdown to the next theorized beta update?

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Why are we saying we're getting Shinobu changes, or hoping to, soon?

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So is this a guaranteed thing or just a theorized thing?

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Ah, okay

I just recall seeing a lot of "Beta update tomorrow let's hope for changes" in here and then nothing ever happened

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It's 11:51 PM for me here

crimson umbra
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yeah for east us its usually like 6-8 am monday

glossy reef
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Well I hope to wake up to Shinobu buffs
May we finally have our powerhouse

tawdry bone
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Could someone explain Kuki’s skills to me they seem really confusing and how does she look as a DPS ?

cold pumice
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Her E create a circle around her that hits enemies every 1.5s for 12s (15s CD). A;sp hea;s active character. Dmaage scales of ATK and healing off HP

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Q is amber burst but HP scaling

hollow cairn
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I'm looking forward to her but I still wish they were a bit more creative E_paimon_rly

glossy reef
hollow cairn
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It's also a little like xinyans

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The skill tho, rly is just qiqi/barb skill man

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yet I'm still gonna eat that shit up

glossy reef
hollow cairn
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yeahhhhh talkin abt skill alone tho

unique sphinx
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Let's hope the there are real kuki buffs this time unlike just icon changes like it has been so far

hollow cairn
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makes sense cuz kuki is meant to do a little damage

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even if it's not a crazy amount

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Whereas qiqi and barb aren't

unique sphinx
glossy reef
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I certainly hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling the Shinobu we're seeing is our launch Shinobu

Pretty much all of the focus is on Yelan and nothing on Shinobu, so unless a bunch of beta testers start complaining about her and we get some sort of focus on her, I doubt there'll be anything

unique sphinx
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True since Yelan is looking like a Xinqiu sidegrade everyone cares way more about her

glossy reef
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We ended up with Thoma and based on what I see here, Thoma sucks, so if he got in without changes, I see Shinobu following the same path

unique sphinx
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I doubt enough testers are even spending enough time testing Shinobu

glossy reef
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Although who knows, maybe people see "hot ninja gang member" and she's loved by beta testers and Mihoyo will buff the hell out of her

hollow cairn
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rip thoma I love him as a character but I have absolutely no reason to build him

unique sphinx
glossy reef
unique sphinx
glossy reef
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It teleported you less than half the distance and a lot of the time it barely moved you a foot

unique sphinx
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Oh ya I did hear about it... I didn't really build her cuz I didn't have many cons on her

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Imo the best thing they can do for Shinobu and not make her totally broken is making her E dmg scale off of HP I think her E being op is justified cuz she has to loose hp on activation

glossy reef
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Honestly just give her the ability to heal co-op teammates so I can build her in a stupid way and bring her into co-op with friends

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That's all I want

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To be honest all healers should just be able to do that, there's no reason to not be able to heal co-op teammates

main bay
wooden sundial
lucid depot
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do we know what's Kuki's ICD? Does her E proc reactions every tick or every 2 ticks?

median wagon
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3hit or2.5s

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idk

cold pumice
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its every 2nd hit

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because it follows standard ICD

lucid depot
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But aren't the ticks every 1.5 second? It would mean that there are 3 seconds between 2 ticks so every second ticks should proc reaction no?

cold pumice
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Yes

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I editted because I got confued

lucid depot
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Oh okey

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Well, I hoped they would make her so that she would proc every tick but I guess it's not that bad

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She can be used for overload I guess

tawdry bone
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where buffs C_HuCryge

small turtle
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if its 7, 4 hour and 10 minutes left

inland ridge
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How bad even is Kuki as say, the healer + SC in a Eula team

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Is it bad because Fischl + a different healer would just be better than using an electro healer in Kuki

lucid depot
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I don't believe her to be particularly bad, with 4pc ocean she can be quite playable

small turtle
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i havent calc kuki being the solo electro in a eula comp as of yet

rigid hazel
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how many ticks do kuki has per e? do she heal every ticks?

small turtle
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8 tick c0

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10 tick c2

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every tick she heals

woven locust
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12/15s, literally 8/10 ticks

rigid hazel
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So she heal about 20k hp

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nice

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20k

small turtle
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there is a healing mastersheet on pins

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!!pins

olive treeBOT
small turtle
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still works

rigid hazel
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Hmm Idk if I should use Clam set or millelith

woven locust
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if eula kuki, what are other two, fisch and rosa?

small turtle
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im trying to see if aloy can fit, removing a 2nd electro and just making kuki solo electro

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and without kuki bursting

rigid hazel
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So many option for kuki, idk what weapon or artifact set to use anymore lol

tiny sedge
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I think most useful option for general build is Tenacity and Favonius sword

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It is team attack buffs with 100% uptime, improve her heals, and help for team energy also

cold pumice
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Sac is also an option for uptime

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If you don't have C2

small turtle
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Kuki E - 1 second
Rosaria EQ - 2 seconds
Eula tEQ N4 hE N4 - 10 seconds
Aloy EE - 2 seconds
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Rosaria E - 1 second
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Aloy Q - 2 seconds

= 22 seconds

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so much eula funneling particles

rigid hazel
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Finally Aloy has some use

small turtle
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sac aloy

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fav rosa

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fav kuki

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all trying to mitigate eulas ER requirement

rigid hazel
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wait a min

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I try to calc er but the er calculator doesnt have Aloy lol

small turtle
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its there

rigid hazel
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Oh, I was using the old version

small turtle
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just never burst on kuki

rigid hazel
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Nice, Eula can run no er now

rigid hazel
small turtle
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yeah i could do that

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since fav gives 60+

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i just need 6 dist i think

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nvm its 4

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fuck cdmg

rigid hazel
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Kuki Qe at start of rotation

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I will try running kuki with Itto also

small turtle
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that should put the rot to 23

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same range of ER

rigid hazel
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yea, in that rotation her burst is optional

small turtle
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Kuki QE - 2 second
Rosaria EQ - 2 seconds
Eula tEQ N4 hE N4 - 10 seconds
Aloy EE - 2 seconds
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Rosaria E - 1 second
Eula N4 - 2 seconds
Aloy Q - 2 seconds

= 23 seconds

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alternate QE with EQ on kuki could also be applicable

rigid hazel
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Then gonna build petra zhongli

proud acorn
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Bro who pingedE_ChildeCamPov

grizzled elk
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No kuki buffs again it seems

rigid hazel
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No kuki buffA_HuCry

daring owl
small turtle
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still not 7

frosty jewel
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pain

tawdry bone
small turtle
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beta updates

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idk the time cause it was pushed early last week

slow plover
mental stag
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seem like they just added a "total dmg" thing ?

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not a buff but a description ?

daring owl
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ye the single instance is the same

unique jay
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it's the same, still 7 hits

mental stag
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ohh wait

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current one is 7.66

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this is 7.7

unique jay
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that's rounding lol

slow plover
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kekw

daring owl
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ye just round up

unique jay
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you can see the total is using 7.66

frosty jewel
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it looks kinda.. eh

small turtle
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thats t13

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t13 = 7.7

mental stag
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i know .. t13 is 7.66 currently C_KEKTao

also lemme kapp for a second man D_ZhongWeirdChamp

small turtle
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dont worry

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i believe in buff

daring owl
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just one more week B_ZhongHmm

mental stag
small turtle
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ill literally riot if yelan gets a buff instead of kuki

mental stag
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c6 Raiden havers crying in the corner C_KEKTao

small turtle
mental stag
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tho they buffed her C2 (arguably)

small turtle
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bruh

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they nerf her?

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oh wait

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that 6.50%

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6.10% -> 6.50%

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burst at t9

tired berry
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Imma wait for the Razor explanations

small turtle
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oh wait

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thats t10

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ITS THE SAME

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IM BEING DELUSIONAL NOW

daring owl
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yes it's the same they just added a total damage line

small turtle
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ITS JUST GRAPHICS BUFF

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WTF

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WE DONT NEED THE TOTAL DMG

frosty jewel
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k e k w

trim tundra
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HYV just doesn't give a single fuck

small turtle
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at least yelan c2 been nerf a little

frosty jewel
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xd

daring owl
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dont worry next week B_SmolZhongli

trim tundra
daring owl
small turtle
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chat let us now pray her E tick dmg scales with hp

tranquil lion
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does her e still scale with atk

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oh

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fuck

humble wraith
small turtle
humble wraith
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2 more weeks of Kuki is not real

small turtle
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scar is typing

frosty jewel
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im already on the physdps kuki train

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cant care about her skill damage anymore

daring owl
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phys kuki B_ZhongliChad

tawdry bone
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not even a buff? 🤡

tired berry
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Mond and Liyue 4* looking like 5* right now compared to this mess 😭 we said no power creep not flat out pointless

pallid iris
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why can't kuki simply be like gorou and be niche but basically necessary

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and not flat out be bad or barely mediocre at everything she does

frosty jewel
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and it was sorta obviously needed

pallid iris
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yeah that's why i used him as an example

hushed meadow
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crying

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PLS WTHHH

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KUKIII

tired berry
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If she was going to be the Electro healer then she should at least have her kit focus mainly on that and have her heal more

frosty jewel
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i dont think there is such a niche that kuki could fill right now, except dendro electro reaction

tired berry
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That’s literally the only hope (cope) we have right now, that the reactions somewhat buff Electro

small turtle
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scar is that all that we got in this beta update?

hushed meadow
pallid iris
hushed meadow
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seems so

small turtle
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like

frosty jewel
small turtle
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wtf is mihoyo doing?

hushed meadow
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as you can see in

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ambr

frosty jewel
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"intensify"

daring owl
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not that that would make kuki much better because there will just be better users of that reaction with a better base kit B_ZhongTea

hushed meadow
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its the full one already

small turtle
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making another armpit character?

frosty jewel
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even the name fits

pallid iris
tired berry
frosty jewel
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the more you apply, the higher it stacks, then it goes boom

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based on your EM

small turtle
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bruh, this girl has potential A_HuCry

pallid iris
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but i feel like fischl would still be the better 4 star option at literally everything

daring owl
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*had C_HuPepeSmile

frosty jewel
manic umbra
small turtle
lament cargo
small turtle
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useless as her a4

inland ridge
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What do we know rn about dendro reactions

frosty jewel
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ngl i am NOT complaining about fischl being the queen of subdps units

inland ridge
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Like what the hell is intensified

dry warren
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so basically, nothing is changed

pallid iris
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i think that dendro electro might be something like taking a % of an opponents hp and the % scales off em exclusively

daring owl
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we know nothing except for burning

tired berry
frosty jewel
inland ridge
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What was the intiensified and overdosed april 1 tweet

pallid iris
frosty jewel
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so im just~~ coping~~ speculating with that

hushed meadow
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omg r u kidding me

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they did change her E desc on english

v1: Follows the current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for the active character based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.

v2: Follows your current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for active the character within the ring based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.

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THATS IT???

unique sphinx
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Rip kuki copers another week without buffs....

hushed meadow
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fuck wordings A_HuCry

pallid iris
frosty jewel
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one thing i dislike about electro phys- units is that there isnt a cryo applier as comfy as fischl or raiden

small turtle
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THATS CO-OP BUFF

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FUCK

pallid iris
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rosaria is pretty good tho

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even kaeya

hushed meadow
frosty jewel
small turtle
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who even co-ops when everyone is fr 10

daring owl
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ye but they are tied to burst so it's less comfy but they are good

small turtle
hushed meadow
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BRUHH

pallid iris
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not as comfy as raiden but

pallid iris
daring owl
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ye fischl is kinda

frosty jewel
pallid iris
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in what way /genq

frosty jewel
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its skill x 2, practically no time where it wont be up

pallid iris
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my fischl is lvl 1 so 💀

frosty jewel
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and just as press and forget

frosty jewel
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because oz generates too many particles

pallid iris
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still raiden is the comfiest electro applier

unique sphinx
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This is kinda irritating to see..them doing nothing about how underwhelming Shinobu is
I don't want another Thoma

small turtle
hushed meadow
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u know akane nvm

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they were just fixing the EN translation

pallid iris
hushed meadow
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the chinese one stays still

lament cargo
pallid iris
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she's like a worse electro sayu

daring owl
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sayu actually good

frosty jewel
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jack of no trades

small turtle
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welp, 2.8 heizou will not be the same as kuki

pallid iris
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sayu is good however she's basically a nerfed jean

daring owl
pallid iris
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and sayu does her job well when you don't have jean

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but kuki would do NOTHING well

unique sphinx
lament cargo
small turtle
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thoma Copium

pallid iris
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i am coping that heizou will be good

frosty jewel
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what i do not understand is, why the heck did they not make kuki a dedicated support

pallid iris
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cc healer please

lament cargo
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Heizou is anemo right so at the very least he can be carried by VV Copium

small turtle
frosty jewel
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they wouldn't release a unit like that out of nowhere

small turtle
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barbs and qiqi got revive c6

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her c6 is useless

daring owl
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barbara got hydro damage bonus B_ZhongTea

frosty jewel
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this brings me to my next cope point , dendro electro reaction

unique sphinx
pallid iris
lament cargo
daring owl
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even if dendro electro reaction would be good why wouldn't you use an electro character that has a better base kit

inland ridge
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Electro sucks electro needs an amp reaction

frosty jewel
daring owl
frosty jewel
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like, fischl is a unit who managed to not get powercrept by raiden

frank marsh
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A dedicated support for tazer team would be perfect, just good healing + battery for Beidou + shred or buff on a constellation

inland ridge
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That's what happens when you
-demand 0 field time
-attack off field
-have 0 energy requirements

frosty jewel
tawdry bone
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hello Kuki TC how does the beta changes affect her?

frank marsh
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Unfortunatly Hoyoverse made her average in healing and battery

pallid iris
daring owl
pallid iris
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and in some ec comps

hushed meadow
tawdry bone
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Kuki Sub DPS C_HuBlobSad

frosty jewel
daring owl
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kuki physical is the way C_TaoHehe

frosty jewel
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Raifish is overpowered

tawdry bone
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JUST MAKE HER DIONA LEVELS OF ENERGY HOYO 😭

pallid iris
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oh yeah raifish is insane

pallid iris
inland ridge
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Are her auto mvs even good enough for phys

frosty jewel
inland ridge
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Can't imagine so seeing as she's a 4*

frosty jewel
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if she didn't, fischl would be better there

lament cargo
pallid iris
daring owl
lament cargo
frosty jewel
lament cargo
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To battery during downtime

pallid iris
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ohhhhhh

frosty jewel
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its essentially a dual-carry comp

pallid iris
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well that's nice

daring owl
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cyno A_WishTao

inland ridge
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Can't wait for cyno coping C_HuKekPoint

frank goblet
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diona good battery, has shield, buff and healing,,, 😭

give kuki better energy regen pls 🙏

daring owl
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Gotta get through heizou coping first

inland ridge
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At least Yun Jin's pretty good as a recent 4*

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Gigabuffing anyone that spams nas

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Although she is from Liyue

frosty jewel
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She is also pretty niche, albeit a useful one

lament cargo
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Ofc

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The liyue 4* is useful

daring owl
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yun jin and gorou have a solid use sara aswell to a lesser extent sayu is okay and thoma is thoma

lament cargo
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Man this is gonna be the trend till snez huh

inland ridge
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CN hates JP. At least Sumeru is like Egypt? Surely Egypt won't be bad

lament cargo
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If you ain't an og or a liyue 4* you're screwed 😔

tawdry bone
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and india aswell

inland ridge
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Sayu's decent

lament cargo
trim tundra
frank goblet
inland ridge
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Though that's just her carried by vv and healing A_HuKek

lament cargo
ivory chasm
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At least she has vv

frank goblet
main bay
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Better being carried by a set than dead on arrival unfortunately

daring owl
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fontaine should be save right france is cool

inland ridge
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Gorou's alright if you play Itto or Noelle and useless if you don't
Sara's alright if you play Raiden and useless if you don't

lament cargo
tawdry bone
lament cargo
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Otherwise use Lisa w ttds

daring owl
inland ridge
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Fontaine is Hydro

trim tundra
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It's sad though Hoyoverse telling Kuki to eat dirt and she doesn't even have a geo vision A_HuCry

tawdry bone
inland ridge
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It is impossible for Hydro to be bad

hushed meadow
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hey puffy

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no kuki tc still

inland ridge
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Change my mid

hushed meadow
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😔

lament cargo
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A_HmmTao do you ?

inland ridge
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Still not bad

lament cargo
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😔

trim tundra
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Even barbara with her negative damage, negative particle gen, turbo useless cons can be useful. Hydro supremacy

inland ridge
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Subarbamon A_JoyTao

frosty jewel
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damn

inland ridge
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Free bubble pops

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Says who C_HuSusge

lament cargo
frosty jewel
inland ridge
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Catalysts aren't even limited to just ttds

lament cargo
inland ridge
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Hakushin can also buff the whole party

frosty jewel
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let me explain it like this, she is such a mess that we dont have a BiS

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xd

daring owl
#

you could even use prototype amber so she would have decent healing

trim tundra
inland ridge
#

No it's not

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Pause the game then change your charscter

frosty jewel
#

making kuki catalyst would mean getting rid of her basic attacks

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which is a big no

inland ridge
#

Your new character gets ttds buff

#

Yes this is true

trim tundra
stone jacinth
#

Can't do it in domain

hushed meadow
noble elbow
#

when is it my turn to be happy

daring owl
frosty jewel
tranquil lion
#

her design is so good but the kit

hushed meadow
#

Who.. who knows she can fit

trim tundra
#

mihoyo pov ^

hushed meadow
#

Uh

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Some comps

gaunt pivot
daring owl
#

There's plenty of bench space left where she could fit

inland ridge
hushed meadow
#

I'll take anything A_cryingsadtao

inland ridge
#

Cba dodging abyss national bs C_KEKTao

lament cargo
inland ridge
#

Yelan is my 5* hydro Copium

inland ridge
#

Her best comp is expedition

#

Fuck halved expedition time

small turtle
#

welp

inland ridge
#

I only love Shenhe and Kuki double expedition rewards

small turtle
#

time to sheet eula aloy rosa kuki

lament cargo
calm ice
#

Nice buff

#

Additional text pog

frank goblet
#

her e is particle regen but like,,, its has a 50% chance or something??? does that mean that if ur filipino enough you won't get any particles

daring owl
small turtle
hushed meadow
#

Ayato-Kuki still for me

#

Overworld lets go

inland ridge
#

Kuki just powercrept Fischl Bennett Sara Chongyun and Keqing

#

Unironically

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Who cares about these garbage

#

When you have this

daring owl
#

I only claim one expedition for the bp quest

trim tundra
#

Kuki S tier confirmed

for expeditions

daring owl
#

but I guess that one can have extra stuff D_ZhongOMEGA

small turtle
#

wtf

daring owl
#

235 doable C_HuPepeSmile

small turtle
#

just a E bot

cold pumice
#

set burst every 90+s

#

and multiply skill usage

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to how many times over said itme frame

hushed meadow
lament cargo
small turtle
#

pre funneling eula C_KEKTao

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opens up raiden

fast rapids
small turtle
#

fuck burst

lunar zealot
#

So, they really are buffing Yelan c2 and nothing for Cookie. That has to be a joke

stone jacinth
#

If, say Cookie had the same energy gen like Fischl, would she be balanced?

small turtle
daring owl
#

she would still do barely anything besides generate energy but that's something

hushed meadow
#

Well she would be a good option

#

if

stone jacinth
small turtle
#

battery + healer = electro diona, give shield at cons

inland ridge
#

Do we already know her particle gen

small turtle
#

scrap c6, make it a shield cons

daring owl
frosty jewel
#

she becomes a defensive option that can hold freedom sworn or something

#

decent enough

small turtle
#

ill put dark iron sword on her for eula comp C_KEKTao

#

L for those who foddered it

lament cargo
#

I hate that I can read some honey comments about kuki and actually agree with them C_HuCryge

daring owl
#

that's a first

lament cargo
#

Some of the comments are actually reasonable A_HuLay

small turtle
#

blame mihoyo for being downbad for yelan

daring owl
#

it's the armpits

lament cargo
daring owl
lament cargo
inland ridge
#

You have become honey

green dagger
#

Kuki still bad A_HumaruCry

placid pine
#

Thought kuki became good with that hp scaling...

elfin ocean
#

I thought the hp scaling was significant

#

To run her a la hutao

patent timber
#

Kuki good after buff ?

spice sundial
#

it looks like just a description change to show total damage

patent timber
#

holup its not even a buff

rigid hazel
inland ridge
#

There's fowls in inazuma wdym

rigid hazel
#

I only need them to buff kuki particle generation to same level as fischl so that beidou team has healer

inland ridge
#

It's in an island that wasn't there at inazuma launch but there's fowls in inazuma expeditions

#

That's where sara perpetually hangs out in C_HuPepeSmile

subtle finch
#

No buff C_KEKTaoWait

lament cargo
elfin ocean
#

I never thought shinobu would be a good cinnabar spindle user

#

The lack of an appropriate sword makes her "versatile" at the cost of being mid-bad A_HumaruCry

shrewd crescent
#

Where's my Kuki buffs

alpine dock
#

Next Monday. Trust

tawdry bone
#

maybe it's time to give up y'all

flat umbra
#

No kuki buff?????

rose tiger
flat umbra
#

I want to cry

shrewd crescent
lament cargo
humble wraith
#

Kuki pizza

shrewd crescent
#

Hopefully I'm wrong C_HuPepeSmile

simple cypress
#

Does this update make kuki worse? The total burst dmg implies 12 hits instead of 13.. did we get a nerf instead?

shrewd crescent
tawdry bone
fast rapids
amber plover
#

If they buffed her particle gen she'd be so good that's the only thing I want

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Her burst would be less underwhelming if there were ways to buff it other than VV/Kazuha

torpid oak
deep dune
#

Last time I came here she was just there

torpid oak
deep dune
#

Wrong name

#

I meant shinobu

torpid oak
#

She’s the exact same A_PainTao

deep dune
#

Well

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So basically just a healer for mono electro teams

#

I'm guessing she will get some backlash

stuck breach
#

Backlash? Thoma got released without any lmao

main bay
#

I dont think people fuss over 4 stars

#

They just bench them

#

Which is a shame

tired berry
#

My issue with her is that she doesn’t excel at any one thing, everything is subpar

#

And isn’t Thoma supposedly good with Tao?

bronze trail
#

Only if you’ve got c6 xq

#

so he doesn’t vape steal

carmine oar
#

hyv did thoma so dirty

shrewd crescent
hollow cairn
#

Except not since they deleted that part in the drip marketing

#

looking more like subpar at all trades 😩

fringe river
#

So kuki buffed burst ??

dark geyser
#

Whats a good artif set for kuki?

shrewd crescent
#

Tenacity of Chinese police or fake clam healers

elfin ocean
#

Is primordial jade cutter her only salvation

shrewd crescent
#

And that other ugly blue sword

silk stirrup
tired berry
# fringe river So kuki buffed burst ??

It already barely does any damage, and the buff is so minor it doesn’t make a big difference. Either we cope for Dendro reactions or Kuki is eternally benched 🥲

tired berry
tawdry bone
#

What burst buff

#

Numbers are the same

#

@crimson oasis burst confirmed to be 7/12 hits. Time to nerf dmg in the sheet

tiny sedge
#

So there is no buffs today ? A_cryingsadtao it is actually less damage than we had thought ?

#

It is so sad

torpid oak
unique sphinx
#

Pention to change the thread name from kuki-theorycrafting to kuki-kopers

tawdry bone
#

she got reverse buffed

shrewd crescent
tiny sedge
heady flower
#

Rip dookie shinobu A_HuCry

lament stirrup
#

even with C6 XQ he sometimes steal vape

tired berry
#

What a mess

#

🥲

lament stirrup
#

for some reason they also think that him ascending with Atk% instead of HP% or ER% is a good idea

tawdry bone
#

Thats because offense is the best defense

shrewd crescent
#

They didn't want to make his a4 passive not painful C_TaoHehe

tawdry bone
#

uh, so Thoma hp passive and Kuki C4 are mostly the same in terms of dps

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I wonder why they're aiming at that specific level of awfulness

tiny sedge
#

Kuki she have good ascension stat at least over Thoma 🙃

tired berry
#

The day we get an HP% sword is the day future Kuki mains win

sage wind
#

uhm.. this might sound dumb but i saw the calcs for kuki regarding artifacts, apparently def boosts E damage tick afaik it’s hp scaling what am i missing?

tiny sedge
sage wind
tiny sedge
tawdry bone
tired berry
tawdry bone
#

we have hp bow, claymore, catalyst, spear

#

it shall be time

green dagger
#

its even good? Copium

#

true, Physical Akali seems very fun to play

tawdry bone
#

i might actually A_HmmTao

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i have a nice PF feather

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and im farming totm anyways

#

its aquila>rancour right

cerulean haven
#

Aquila or Jade cutter. That is the question

crimson oasis
#

Man kuki is arse

mystic merlin
#

Does it worth it to give Kuki Jade cutter? Just got Ayato his toy so my Jade cutter is free to be used. Normally goes on Jean, but wondering if Kuki will like it too

lunar zealot
#

Better on Jean

spice ice
#

Any good newsCopium

torpid oak
lament cargo
spice ice
#

Just give her res shred Oml

rare abyss
#

it doesn't matter it didn't buff anything

rose tiger
tiny sedge
#

I thought change it is worse because it is 12 hits not 13 like thought before

rare abyss
#

either we miscalculated or it's just something from hyv

tawdry bone
#

is kuki's C4 just like fischl's A4 but lower uptime?

simple cypress
#

yes, but kuki's c4 just needs the active character to use a normal, charged, or plunge attack while the grass ring is up to proc it. fischl's a4 needs an electro reaction

rare abyss
#

Honestly they should make Kuki's c4 her A4

subtle finch
#

Has anyone looked into physical Kuki

cerulean haven
#

Everyone is saying pale flame because it has 100% uptime

#

But her scaling isn't the greatest sooo

ivory chasm
#

Her design is the greatest 😌

cerulean haven
#

Her animations are the greatest

modern junco
#

Are her heals not okay?

#

If I can just get that from her and up time on ToM then will be fine with herCopium

cold pumice
#

THeyre okay with an asterix

#

She only heals the active character

#

including in co-op

#

And also she provides nothing else except ToTM which is very disaapointing if you're a helaer

modern junco
#

After all this time get electro healer only to be done dirty

#

Will just wait for 5 star one they'll get the good treatment

north sable
#

can kuki reach max clam proc dmg off field? with high investment

mystic merlin
#

Getting kinda sad ... The 4* from Inazuma are a bit disappointing, exceptions are the Sara and Gorou very specific role and at C6

#

It's not like I want them to make Kuki as brocken as Bennet, but deam... Give that girl some love

calm ice
#

We still coping? 👀

#

Maybe it's time to give up

torpid oak
spice ice
#

Just give her res shred A_HuCry

mental topaz
#

Has anyone looked into pyro Kuki?

ivory chasm
#

Res shred on her ult would be nice

#

Let her ult do smth 😭

patent timber
ivory chasm
#

When u think of diona utility kekw

#

I also thought the barrier description on her ult was a shield but it seems like a cleanse

#

Or its nothing and it's just a description

tiny sedge
#

It is just a description 🙃 She just have amber burst

ivory chasm
#

F

small turtle
#

i updated it to 12 ticks on her Q

tough trout
#

im struggling to decide what stats i should get for kuki im farming 4 pc tenacity but idk what stats i should do

#

i looked at the google doc comparing artifacts and sets but im struggling to decide which one to pick

indigo sleet
#

link to this?

small turtle
#

check their bio

hushed meadow
#

A_HuPopcorn puffy the sheet secretary

inland magnet
north sable
spice ice
cold pumice
#

She heals one character at a time, she would need to heal liek 10K per tick

small turtle
#

its been changed

#

desc said characters inside the ring

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probably can be used for co-op hugging the other player

inland magnet
#

at level 13 talent with 50k HP she will heal about 4k per 1.5s, so 8k per bubble total

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and i don't even know if 50k HP is attainable

small turtle
#

depends on your artifact luck

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with r5 pjc

cold pumice
#

Not with a hyealing bonus circlet

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Max HP rolls gets me liek 43K with R5 PJC

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With a HP circlet, 46K

frosty jewel
#

Def shred on kuki kit where

keen sinew
meager valve
#

+3000 hp

#

"wait---- wait---"

#

+3000 hp

#

"just one more tick"

#

+3000 hp

#

"all good"

small turtle
#

C_KEKTao we still dont know if it does work on co-op

fossil forum
#

Random thought: Kuki as Itto healer? Compared to Bennett and Kokomi she could trade buffing and uptime for the fact that her healing will always be on Itto and will always max vs Bennett's stationary circle, 75% cap and kind of useless ATK buff and Kokomi's stationary jellyfish and also kinda useless Tenacity ATK buff

#

Her periodic electro thwomps could also work towards periodic Electro shields

#

perhaps it can gain value among Zhongli havers? Since if you have a built Diona you could always use her instead

#

just some random thoughts someone can diss me for ever having A_HuThumbsup

alpine dock
#

Yes, that's where I plan to use her

#

She should proc crystallize often for gorou

hollow cairn
#

That's what I'm thinkin, also gotta reunite the gang members

quiet onyx
#

when everyone says that Kuki will be very bad, thats for 9 staring abyss 12 right? Will she be okay to use everywhere else?

lament cargo
#

yes outside of abyss she'll be more than good enough

small turtle
#

eula kuki aloy shenhe was a mistake

calm ice
plush mirage
#

With the correct teams 9 starring with kuki should be fairly easy

#

Although that applies to any char kekqing

static crypt
#

Kuki buff? 👀

#

wait, suddenly can't rename?

alpine dock
#

I think she'll be fine in abyss on the right teams

#

Likely electro charge if you need a healer

static crypt
little charm
#

How is it looking guys

tiny sedge
pallid iris
#

she's not strong at all*

#

i love how kuki tc is like one message per hour and yelan tc is literal chaos

green dagger
tiny sedge
#

There is no confirming on rewording of elemental skill yet right? If it is work in co op ?
I don't know if Beta players can do co op

rustic raft
#

Damage aside, how is her healing if I just build her as a healing bot?

brazen snow
#

@subtle finch
Thoughts on Sucrose Yoimiya Kuki Yunjin?

tiny sedge
simple cypress
#

but if she's constantly healing herself in co-op, she's going to have sad heals :<

tiny sedge
#

Okay, it make her heal weaker and also weaker damage because it heal herself :(

#

But it is also good to have character that can heal co op team only using skill, not burst, with not needing to attack enemies. only Kokomi have that using jellyfish

bronze trail
#

no icd on e make it happen

#

pls I’ll even build her full healer just pls

tawdry bone
#

At this rate the BP is gonna get buffs before Kuki does

frosty jewel
#

if she provided some sort of battery or a lot of particles, i think she would fit for the role better

#

because you could cut on the ER% on itto

dusky ginkgo
#

is there any point running cinnabar on shinobu?

#

does it benefit her in any way?

mental stag
#

Yea u run her def-electro-crit .. nd her ES dmg becomes the best among the rest.. in exchange off poopy healing nd weaker Q

dusky ginkgo
#

so dont run cinnabar, noted

mental stag
#

If what u want from kuki is dmg .. cinnabar is a gud option as long as def sands

#

If not .. yea

dusky ginkgo
#

is there a google sheets for her best weapon options?

#

i only see the one for artifacts

mental stag
#

Personally i do not know myself

#

I woulf ask around but i m bedge atm E_KEKpat

dusky ginkgo
#

lmao np

#

when in doubt r5 lions roar!

tiny sedge
tiny sedge
knotty crag
#

@subtle finch online?

#

or anyone into Shinobu TC basically lol

#

I heard that apparently if you add up the numbers for Shinobu's ult, it seems like only 12 hits based on that?

#

I have videos from the new beta (private) showing it's still 13 hits A_HuTaoSalute

#

in case there was any confusion around that

#

tested on a single stationary target

cold pumice
#

best news since start of beta

muted isle
#

Thanks Uba!

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Also do you guys think she's gonna work well with Ayato?

tiny sedge
#

If it is 13 hits that is good, but it makes the multipliers need to be updated again

wraith harbor
# knotty crag tested on a single stationary target

E_think I'm not sure if its possible to be tested in beta but if it can be done; If we can get an confirmation if Shinobu's Elemental Skill can heal party members that are within the ring (i.e. Co-op settings where in most cases so long as active characters are within the area they'll gain the effects.) I'm doubtful tho, since her skill is similar to both Barbara's and Qiqi's without their added abilities. Tho I'm not sure myself if their rings alone can heal other players

tiny sedge
#

Barbara and Qiqi rings do not heal other players only if she attacks enemies while it is active

wraith harbor
#

Figured as much

tiny sedge
#

Wording it is weird on Kuki but because it is different maybe she can work for co op ? But still, she will make her own heal weaker and damage weaker by heal herself

wraith harbor
#

some people have been wondering about it so I thought to ask on their behalf

tiny sedge
#

Thank you ! I am wondering it too

wraith harbor
#

I think wording is bugged for now, it appeared grammatically incorrect

#

at least for EN on ambr and honeyhunter

subtle finch
tiny sedge
#

Original it said Active character but new one it said Active character within the ring

#

It will need to wait for test

wraith harbor
#

Follows your current active character around. Deals Electro DMG to nearby opponents every 1.5s and restores HP for active the character within the ring based on Kuki Shinobu's Max HP.

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A_HuDisgust "active the character"

#

but even still I believe its just specification

tiny sedge
#

I hope... So she can do something for co op

wraith harbor
#

granted Sara functions quite similar

#

Crowfeathers will trigger Tengu Juurai: Ambush after a short time, dealing Electro DMG and granting the active character within its AoE an ATK Bonus based on Kujou Sara's Base ATK.

tiny sedge
#

Yes it is need to be in aoe for effect

#

It will be easier than other character heals like Diona/Bennett where heal is only in one place, because Kuki can move to other players instead

hollow cairn
#

only dps kuki in coop

tiny sedge
#

Will need to be physical 🙃 She make her own burst weaker

mental topaz
#

Welp

#

I really wanted to run pyro Kuki

hollow cairn
mental topaz
#

Kuki Yelan/XQ Kazuha/Sucrose Bennett c6

#

Kuki CA animation already looking better than Keqing’s

small turtle
#

time to bring back 13 hits

spiral cairn
#

yikes

#

dead tc

#

is kuki rly that bad

tiny sedge
spiral cairn
#

on a scale of amber to qiqi how bad is she

tiny sedge
#

I think Qiqi as team healer and also subdps with clam is better, better as taser driver also

tropic jacinth
spiral cairn
tiny sedge
#

Main comparison idea for teams is to have Kuki as comfort option in taser team, but Qiqi Barbara Kokomi taser team is stronger

cold pumice
#

Also in mono electro

#

Replacing sara, she could possibly be better (if paired with kazuha) than Raiden Yae Sara Jean/sucrose

simple cypress
cold pumice
#

what are you talking about

#

She got a tool tip update Copium

orchid folio
#

I even checked through the chinese to see if there was an update there

#

but I didn't see one

rigid hazel
#

Kuki is scaramouche supportCopium

small turtle
tawdry bone
#

can i use freedom sword on kuki

#

if not I’ll save for cyno

#

or yaoyo

cold pumice
#

well you can

#

At least she can proc it

alpine dock
#

Just wait till you see mondays buffs. Trust

unique sphinx
little heath
#

poor kuki wanters

small turtle
#

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dzRLnjUDKCE-VAgC__jAAB17gczspeEpCW5vzbYRMAI/edit?usp=sharing

any eula enthusiast to check this sheet out? superconduct dmg isnt part of it since i dont know how many procs of superconduct goes and who is procing it.

deft atlas
#

But generally didn't see much wrong with it, other than being awfully low even for Eula

small turtle
#

I already checked twice's sheet and see the difference

#

I already tried replacing Raiden with Shenhe, dmg goes down. I was planning on replacing Rosa with Shenhe since its EQ anyway

#

I sacrificed 6% shred for quills is worth

deft atlas
#

what about r5 archaic eula

small turtle
#

I checked the eula kqm guide from sitri, seems like akuoumaru and r5 sea lord edges it out

#

But since im using raiden, akuoumaru is the way to go

deft atlas
#

so in the end

#

kuki is just eh

small turtle
#

Yeah

#

I havent calced overload but idk

deft atlas
#

at least shes best overworld healer A_HuTaoDerp

small turtle
#

Or EC

elfin yew
#

Is kuki good

keen sinew
#

i mean check the pins but if you literally just read the past chat log you can easily tell

deft atlas
#

Hey, shes the only non child overworld healer that doesn't force u to stay in circle

#

so there's her niche ig

small turtle
#

You are not wrong

#

Idk which pyro user benefits from her

#

Most pyro dps uses bennett anyway

stone jacinth
#

Barb have stam reduction on top of her heal A_HmmTaoFlip

deft atlas
#

barb animation is longer

small turtle
#

A_HmmTao mono electro keqing time

deft atlas
small turtle
#

Oh wait

deft atlas
#

keep in mind that when u see low numbers, it's not because u did error

small turtle
#

Thats just hyper but replacing kuki with bennett

keen sinew
#

yea but barb can get you killed a lot since she appiles wet on you

stone jacinth
#

What can kill you in the overworld

ivory shoal
#

Fall damage

#

The occasional bug

stone jacinth
ivory shoal
#

Oceanid creature in benny circle

keen sinew
#

like i don't understand mihoyo they need to buff kuki

#

we aren't even asking for a lot

ivory shoal
#

Maybe she'll be more fine than we initially think Copium

keen sinew
#

she really not

#

because what she provides can easily be done by others

#

with more benefits

stone jacinth
#

At least particle gen buff plz

keen sinew
#

and her skill dmg

#

like don't make it split scaling, they need to stop doing that

ivory shoal
#

Mihoyo is truly something special

deft atlas
#

make her apply electro aura on u so u can go mono electro with jean for electro sunfire Copium

keen sinew
#

like they out here buffs/changing yelan when she already good as she was but they refuse to touch kuki

ivory shoal
#

Well they let Thoma come out the way he is

keen sinew
#

thoma was a flop to begin with in my opinion

ivory shoal
#

Tbf a free 4* shielder besides diona could have been pretty fun

keen sinew
#

yea

deft atlas
#

Thoma was actually nerfed

#

he had pyro shred on c2

keen sinew
#

like thoma kit revolves around him refreshing his shield but like it was just to weak

tawdry bone
#

doesn't he have low base HP too

ivory shoal
#

Deserved to be on the same level as xinyan

shrewd crescent
deft atlas
calm ice
#

I feel bad for kuki kopers. Like the beta is gonna end without kuki buff

bronze trail
#

I’m going to come back in 5 days

#

And kuki will be ok

shrewd crescent
crimson oasis
#

How are we coping this week

tawdry bone
#

we're not

#

not anymore

high bone
#

Is she that bad?

#

I don't have much idea about her state...I was just thinking of pulling her for ayato

rare abyss
tawdry bone
calm ice
upper kindle
#

what so bad about her?

bronze trail
#

every aspect of her kit is mediocre, from healing to dmg to scaling

upper kindle
#

F

#

well at least she's a Tenacity holder

bronze trail
#

tenacity making her viable Copium

hollow cairn
#

her cuteness isn't mediocre C_HutaoYEP

crimson umbra
#

like is this mediocre compared to 5 star bis, or mediocre compared to 4 star?