kuki-theorycrafting

[tardy cosmos]

[lunar zealot]

bottom left is total damage accounting everything, base damage, crit elem, swirls, clam, lvls, res

[orchid folio]

125k with hp electro CR

[tardy cosmos]

spindle viable

[orchid folio]

8.3k dps?

[tardy cosmos]

woah

[orchid folio]

that's got to be less than fischl tho

but it gives a healer if that matters in a ZL team

[tardy cosmos]

gorou kuki zhongli itto

[subtle finch]

On what second rotation?

[orchid folio]

15 second

this was just for the pikeli team

[subtle finch]

That’s more than fischl

On a 1 Oz rotation

[orchid folio]

how tf

[subtle finch]

Because 1 Oz is half danage than 2 Oz

[orchid folio]

shinobu good actually?

[subtle finch]

[tardy cosmos]

spindle shinobu

[subtle finch]

Definitely see the value of heron teams that don’t do long enough rotations for 2 Oz but want an electro sub dps artery

[lament cargo]

sheet or bonk/j

[subtle finch]

Battery*

[dapper walrus]

hypothetically speaking, kuki would be a good alternative to using bennett in a yoimiya comp,,, right? bc free overloaded

[subtle finch]

Not artery

[subtle finch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1snnq0h-BzS7DowRVNtq_k6ezOT6X73JwoNy2kUa66pw/edit

[dapper walrus]

or is fischl still better for that

[subtle finch]

!!sheet

[orchid folio]

she has to find time to burst for this damage though

if I remove the burst it's lower

[subtle finch]

How much without burst

[tardy cosmos]

shinobu's range might be bad for yoi

[subtle finch]

Gonna need her frames to determine how worth burst is

[dapper walrus]

how big is it

[lament cargo]

[orchid folio]

5.7k without burst

[subtle finch]

[lament cargo]

why don't we have any yet

this is bs

[subtle finch]

noir doesn’t say things he doesn’t have sheets for

[orchid folio]

uba hates kuki or smth

[lament cargo]

[shrewd crescent]

Not surprised

[orchid folio]

guys I love Uba I'm not being serious

[subtle finch]

But If that was the case I’m sure footage woulda came out from some other source by now

[tardy cosmos]

we dont know yet
what we know, unlike oz who do coordinated range attack with yoi
shinobu's whip circles around you

[subtle finch]

If it was just Uba

[lament cargo]

wait why not

[shrewd crescent]

Because I'm not surprised

[dapper walrus]

my copium instinct thinks it'll be as big as barbara's

[simple cypress]

yoimiya would be forced to hug enemies. fischl has better damage, though it's st

[orchid folio]

so I'm guessing her burst doesn't really fit into the rot

[lament cargo]

[orchid folio]

unless it's super quick

Zhongli E
Shinobu E Q
Rosaria EQ
Yunjin EQ
Zhongli normals

maybe? idk how quick zhongli spends stacks

[plush mirage]

very quick

it will not last the whole yunjin duration even on single target

[tardy cosmos]

kuki tc is fun
because her kit is a mess and optimizing it is tricky

[subtle finch]

Like 8s iirc

[orchid folio]

wow that's fast

[subtle finch]

Agreed

[orchid folio]

ok maybe it fits

[subtle finch]

Zhongli is fast

[dapper walrus]

the split scaling makes me go bonkers i hate it and love it at the same time

[simple cypress]

that's how i felt about sayu

[orchid folio]

Sayu's kit isn't even a mess

she just wants every single stat

except defense I guess

and hp also

[simple cypress]

at first i thought it was a mess
now it makes sense

[subtle finch]

Got a crit rate clam circlet with Hp sub is this useful

[orchid folio]

ye

I've showed you my stupid clam circlets before right noir

[subtle finch]

No

[orchid folio]

oh you're in for a treat

[dapper walrus]

my double crit totm pieces on diona better be useful on shinobu

[long frigate]

shinobu has split scaling?

[dapper walrus]

em and hp

[long frigate]

oh the ring is attack scaling

[dapper walrus]

and atk too

[long frigate]

tbh i dont think its supposed to be ab ig part of her damage

[orchid folio]

@subtle finch cursed

[subtle finch]

Praying it’s poorly worded and is actually HP scaling

[long frigate]

i think she is an hp scaling unit who happens to have an ability scaling off of attack

like albedo

[dapper walrus]

hp = heals and more dmg
em = healing bonus
atk = dmg

really i hope that em turns into hp <//3

[orchid folio]

this is actually a usable shinobu piece

[dapper walrus]

i dont understand why do all the good crit pieces go to the healer sets

[glossy reef]

For Barbara, Toppler of Celestia

[little forge]

I thought I would never need hp/healing pieces from clam set with crits

I threw all them away...

[subtle finch]

[dapper walrus]

my diona with a 50/100 ratio has me sobbing

[orchid folio]

I also have a bunch of double crit + er / hp feathers and flowers

I never bothered to level them but now I have a reason

[dapper walrus]

how do u get hp feathers,,

oh wait substat

[spare torrent]

SEE. I'm not insane.

[subtle finch]

I’m sorry I doubted you

[orchid folio]

clam shinobu kind of the hidden tech tbh

[dapper walrus]

no everyone who plays genshin is insane

[orchid folio]

also spindle is a stupid thing to work

it's stupid that that works

[subtle finch]

I’m not afraid to admit when I’m wrong, that’s just the kind of guy I am

[orchid folio]

I'm going to try alley flash

it has EM even if it's just 50

[tardy cosmos]

R5 Iron sting might work well too

[subtle finch]

55

Iron sting should be better than alley

[orchid folio]

her EM scaling is kind of bad

[tardy cosmos]

24% dmg bonus

[subtle finch]

Since the high base doesn’t matter much

And iron sting gives more damage bonus

[orchid folio]

does iron sting work off field

[subtle finch]

You trigger it when you cast her E

Idk the duration tho i forget

Don’t think it works off field

[tardy cosmos]

maybe use Q first

[swift condor]

Is kuki Shinobu conformed to be a sword user?

[subtle finch]

Yes

[swift condor]

Do we ever get to use the whip like in her art?

[tardy cosmos]

@orchid folio how's the damage percentage on shinobu? how much from skill, clam, and burst

[little forge]

Probably it's just part of her E/Q animations

[tardy cosmos]

only when casting skill and burst
we dont use it for attacking, if the drawing is correct

[wraith harbor]

of iron sting? its 6s

[subtle finch]

Ya

[tardy cosmos]

why is noir blushing to this
!!bonk

[subtle finch]

Imagine if spindle was hp

[wraith harbor]

damn didn't know alley flash had low EM

[subtle finch]

Or if Kuki was defense scaling and not hp

[subtle finch]

That’s the price for high base attack is low main stat

[swift condor]

Base atk is insane tho, higher than Skywards Sword

[lament cargo]

HP craftable in sumeru trust

[tardy cosmos]

fug now I dont know what to farm
i'll farm ascension I guess

[wraith harbor]

ik its atk is high

I just never saw its em

scaling

it just looks funny

[swift condor]

So the main swords kuki can use are ER weapons and EM weapons for now since Atk doesn’t matter right

[orchid folio]

unfortunately ATK does matter for her skill

I have iron sting if you had 100% uptime at 121k

cinnabar spindle is literally better with no def investment at all

and that makes me sad

[swift condor]

So many scaling to focus on

[subtle finch]

Why does that make you sad it means drip stick has a new user

[spare torrent]

Really, even with R5?

[little charm]

Is this w atk or hp sands

[orchid folio]

hp sands

[little charm]

wow

[dapper walrus]

guys lets just run hp/em/crit with atk weapon to balance her stats out

[spare torrent]

LOL

[little charm]

why em

[dapper walrus]

her passive and constellation

[swift condor]

Em gives her healing bonus right

[little charm]

that barely does anything

[dapper walrus]

provides bonus healing from em

[spare torrent]

Imagine if they buff her even a little bit.

[subtle finch]

I wish instead of em scaling her passive just improved her Hp scaling

[orchid folio]

the problem with her EM scaling

[subtle finch]

Hopefully she gets at least 1 buff

[frank shale]

i literally have no good swords for her😭😭

[little forge]

So Yelan / C2 Kazuha / Sara is her best team?

[orchid folio]

is that it is bad thank you for coming to my ted talk

[subtle finch]

YunJin got like 2

[dapper walrus]

yeah but i dont think her kit can be maximized if u abandon it completely + theres the chance of them buffing it

[orchid folio]

if her EM scaling is like this it should be like 3 times higher

[wraith harbor]

remind me?

[spare torrent]

Yeah, if her A4 just switched to Max HP% > E damage, she'd be perfect.

[swift condor]

With Hoyoverse’s trend of buffing beta characters it is possible

[subtle finch]

YunJin got increased burst duration I forget what else

[little charm]

True but right now it's very bad, and why would u give up 46 electro dmg for barely any gains

[orchid folio]

her c2 changed from weird to good

it used to stack over time

[subtle finch]

Oh yeah I remember that

[wraith harbor]

oh right

[orchid folio]

but it took too long to get there and you'd be done before it was stacked

[subtle finch]

They optimized her c2 and increased her burst and c6 duration

[swift condor]

Kuki already getting buffs I see, winning

[dapper walrus]

idk maybe?

[lament cargo]

so there's hope

[little charm]

what's the burst dmg looking like

[subtle finch]

We don’t know how many times Q hits yet

Also don’t know her frames

[wraith harbor]

really just want some team heals for co-op and anything else is fine

[subtle finch]

Two very important things

[little charm]

ah okay we don't know yet

[subtle finch]

Healing active character means healing all active characters doesn’t it

Which means everyone in co op

Or am I mistaken

[wraith harbor]

I don't believe it will affect co-op mates

[little charm]

well does Barbara e heal everyone in coop

[wraith harbor]

I could be mistaken

[spare torrent]

Not how Qiqi's works.

[wraith harbor]

I believe it'd only heal you, the person affected by the ring

[subtle finch]

Oh

Didn’t know that

[spare torrent]

Barbara and Qiqi both have two forms of healing from their E. Barbara and Qiqi proc heals off of normal/charged attacks, but their ring ticks only affect them.

[wraith harbor]

yea

[orchid folio]

barbara normals also heal but charged attacks heal 4x more

anyway

[wraith harbor]

well except, both chars can use both normals and charged

[little charm]

well no one plays coop it only makes the game harder

[simple cypress]

if it had a field, then it would have healed co-op.. doesnt seem to be the case here

[wraith harbor]

barb just heals more from CA's

[simple cypress]

coop is kind of fun in that way.. sometimes you get people playing certain characters so well that the synergy is amazing...and other times your teammates are helping the enemy

[wraith harbor]

people do

[dapper walrus]

bro,, what abt the ppl who do weekly bosses in coop

and theres #・coop-requests

..

[spare torrent]

I have a skill deficient friend that I help with domains sometimes.

[little charm]

I was exaggerating

Also you'd probably do ur weeklies faster solo lol

[tardy cosmos]

let's see
if Shinobu equips cinnabar spindle, then she will benefit from these substats:
flat atk and atk%
flat def and def%
flat hp and hp%
er% and em
FIRST OMNISCALING CHARACTER

[subtle finch]

I hope Kuki has .66 chance of particle like fischl

[spare torrent]

You can do all 4 weeklies simultaneously with friends.

So long as the world owner does the quest that requires NPC interaction.

[little charm]

its faster solo 👍

[simple cypress]

shinobu the split scaling archon

[orchid folio]

that's a lot of particles

[subtle finch]

Hoping we get that info soon

[tardy cosmos]

Q: What substats do shinobu wants?
A: Yes.

[little charm]

you might as well ignore her a4

[orchid folio]

how that many

[subtle finch]

If it’s albedo rate it should be 5

Wait

[orchid folio]

it's 10 hits right

[subtle finch]

Ignore me

I overcounted

6-7 if fischl rate

3 if albedo rate

[tardy cosmos]

24-28 particle per minute

[subtle finch]

I think

Hope fischl rate

I don’t think that would be unreasonable

[patent ravine]

Wait I thought Kuki only scaled off HP and EM why ER?

Atk too

[orchid folio]

sac in this hypothetical 20s rotation gets 4 more skill hits

[simple cypress]

we're all forgetting kuki's expedition passive, allowing every expedition to complete at the same time. that's the real team contribution

[tardy cosmos]

er always gud
atk in skill

[patent ravine]

Oh ok

[orchid folio]

you know even if she snapshots her skill is so weak lol

[tardy cosmos]

we still need 2 monds character for exploration

[orchid folio]

50.48% atk scaling every 1.5 seconds...

[patent ravine]

Fish and Ben

[little charm]

Dead skill, we hope the burst does dmg god bless

[tardy cosmos]

that's why cinnabar works right

[patent ravine]

Wait cinnabar can work on someone else but albedo? That’s new

[orchid folio]

yeah

[tardy cosmos]

the 20 hours type

[patent ravine]

Okie

[subtle finch]

Got an Hp goblet with a cr and em sub

[tardy cosmos]

shinobu's skill is so weak cinnabar is a massive improvement

[rare abyss]

it works on DN

[dapper walrus]

finally a reason to use my r5 lvl 1 cinnabar

[subtle finch]

They shoulda made her defense scaling for spindle

[spare torrent]

I wanted her to be DEF scaling, but nooooooooo.

We just need an HP Spindle. That's all.

[tired berry]

I see poor Kuki suffered the Inazuman 4* curse too 🥲

[spare torrent]

Not really. She's a'ight.

[subtle finch]

Guys what about physical Kaeya with Kuki

Kaeya Kuki Yunjin Rosaria

[spare torrent]

Why?

[subtle finch]

Same as Zhong

15s rotations

[spare torrent]

I would rather use Rosaria as the carry there.

[orchid folio]

I think you'd prefer someone like Sara for super conduct

so you can at least get cryo resonance

[subtle finch]

I don’t recall Rosaria being very good at phys dps compared to Kaeya

[spare torrent]

Really? Her attacks are fast and she has good scaling on her normals.

[subtle finch]

Her attacks feel awful to me

Idk who has more damage as phys tho

Wait what about 15s TF bennet rotations

[spare torrent]

She's also better for Yun Jin, I think, 'cause two of her attacks hit twice.

5 normal string, 7 hits.

[subtle finch]

Lemme check their frames

Kaeya have 15 CR from c1 tho

[spare torrent]

Rosa has 12% CR from A1 tho

And her ATK SPD/NA DMG is buffed from her C1.

[subtle finch]

Ok looking at their frames I think Rosa would be better

[spare torrent]

I know.

[subtle finch]

[spare torrent]

Not sure if NA3D is faster than NA5 though.

How many frames is dash canceling???

Wait, no, it's faster no matter what, yeah.

[subtle finch]

Could Kaeya be used as 4th slot for cryo resonance

[lament cargo]

phys support kuki ?

[subtle finch]

Cuz clam

What would Eula Kuki team look like

Eula Kuki Rosaria?

[lament cargo]

eula/kuki/rosa/flex ig

[subtle finch]

[lament cargo]

with the flex being like fischl or smth

[dapper walrus]

last slot can be bennett or kokomi

[lament cargo]

wait let me check the roster

[subtle finch]

Wait why Koko

Already have a healer

[dapper walrus]

oh shit i meant mona

sorry

how do i always forget dnsakjcvdsbahc

[spare torrent]

Zhongli for shred?

[lament cargo]

idk how mona interacts with eula

[dapper walrus]

that works too

[lament cargo]

but bennet is no ?

[dapper walrus]

its basically mona burst < eula e < eula q

freeze opponent then shatter

[lament cargo]

[dapper walrus]

idk how exactly all the buff details work but thats how my eula main friend does it

[lament cargo]

looks to be the best option at a glance

[subtle finch]

do you get to stack it?

[dapper walrus]

the q? yeah it stacks

since the e isnt hold e

[subtle finch]

I mean get stacks and omen buff both

[dapper walrus]

oh

well yeah

[subtle finch]

Cuz she shatter the omen extension

[dapper walrus]

theres that too but for some reason my friend gets the buff perfectly fine

maybe its the timing

idk for sure

not a eula haver

but they do work as from what ive seen

[lament cargo]

are they in the server ?

we could ask them

[dapper walrus]

nope

sadly they dont use discord

and rn theyre offline

[lament cargo]

😔

[subtle finch]

Sadge

[lament cargo]

would they be able to record a rotation ?

[dapper walrus]

ig? i'll ask them when theyre online

[lament cargo]

[subtle finch]

Maybe they are swapping early

[lament cargo]

possibly

[orchid folio]

sounds like a good C6 eula strat

but below that...

[dapper walrus]

highest theyve done with mona omen buff + bennett q on eula is 240k

thats with skyward pride r1 lvl 90

talents is 8/8/10

[subtle finch]

Hoping sac sword is on a weapon banner soon mine is r2

[lament cargo]

oof only r2 ?

[subtle finch]

Ya

[lament cargo]

[dapper walrus]

yall have refinements???

[spare torrent]

YEEEEEEEEES

[glossy reef]

OH MY GOD

FINALLY

[spare torrent]

It's here!

[glossy reef]

WE DID IT WANGSHEN

[subtle finch]

Finally

[dapper walrus]

NO WAY UBA ACTUALLY RELEASED IT

[lament cargo]

I GOT BAITED

UBA

HOW DARE YOU

[subtle finch]

[lament cargo]

[green dagger]

bruh, you cant do that to us man

[orchid folio]

HAHAHAHAHAHAA

ha.

[trim tundra]

hsdf

fqdsfq

dfq

sdf

qdsfq

[lament cargo]

I was so excited

man

[nocturne plover]

[lament cargo]

[glossy reef]

Have I ever said how much of a stupid holiday "April Fools" is?

[subtle finch]

I don’t like Uba anymore

[spare torrent]

Uba must die.

[lament cargo]

🤝

[dapper walrus]

cancel uba

[lament cargo]

[subtle finch]

That was a low blow

[lament cargo]

the cruelest joke

[dapper walrus]

ngl that was the worst april fools joke ive ever experienced

[subtle finch]

You don’t hit below the belt Uba

[tired berry]

I will actually whoop someone’s ass

[calm ice]

NICE KUKI GAMEPLAY

[dapper walrus]

not even funny man </3

[spare torrent]

It's only the 31st for me.

[dapper walrus]

uba if ur reading kuki-tc just know we're all out to cancel u

[long frigate]

get punked copers

[nova sierra]

it was actually really good i got so excited when the notification came on my phone and then keqing🫤

[calm ice]

🙄

[lament cargo]

[simple cypress]

Kuki gameplay reveal

[warped saddle]

I'm going to die

[tired berry]

Uba what’s good

[pallid iris]

U FUCKING BATCHA

[trim tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

[long frigate]

im so happy lmao

[glossy reef]

The real April Fools prank is Uba trying to get the gameplay and not succeeding

[long frigate]

this is so much better than actual leaks

[rare abyss]

Hol jp

[calm ice]

Kuki kopers got punked

[rare abyss]

NOOOOO

[lone crow]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-thinking-anime-naruto-gif-13593873

[rare abyss]

my beautifkl colours

[dapper walrus]

i lit thought it was the real thing <//3

[magic obsidian]

hey kuki shinubo theorycrafters how is she going

[green dagger]

lmao

[glossy reef]

I would like to point out that this implies Uba does have some access to Shinobu considering for a brief moment, Uba was playing Shinobu

[unborn ridge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[glossy reef]

So where's our gameplay footage at? 🤔

[dapper walrus]

uba pls show us shinobu

[rare abyss]

He said why in #853474886047629323

[hallow lark]

anyone else mad ?

because I sure am

[calm ice]

Why are we white

[rare abyss]

WAIT

WHAT

[dapper walrus]

i'll literally pay you if you show us even just the NA animations

[rare abyss]

HE

[hallow lark]

It's not even 1st for me and I already got trolled

[dapper walrus]

april fools

[subtle finch]

What did he say?

[rare abyss]

LOOK AT THE CHANNELS

HE POSTED GAMEPLAY

[hallow lark]

bro

[rare abyss]

[hallow lark]

that's april fools

[subtle finch]

You’ve been pranked

[rare abyss]

Wait what

[hallow lark]

.

[subtle finch]

[glossy reef]

Click on the video

[rare abyss]

I'm dimb

Dumb

[subtle finch]

It’s an amogus

[rare abyss]

i got baited so hard

[calm ice]

Nice keking

[subtle finch]

You said he said why there’s no Kuki gameplay? What did he say

[lament cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-pizza-among-us-among-us-meme-sussy-gif-24581549

[pallid iris]

but how do we have yelan gameplay and not kuki i don't get it

[hallow lark]

we should get Kuki today Uba wouldn't do that if he didn't have Kuki's gameplay ready

at least that's what I want to believe

[pallid iris]

oh okay

[pallid iris]

kuki more like cookie

[pastel brook]

that looks hella nice tho

[hallow lark]

this.

[pastel brook]

i want to eat

[pallid iris]

/nsx

[rare abyss]

Nevermind he was talking to someone mb

[hallow lark]

I heard that Cookie Ninja's cousin is Fruity Ninja

[lament cargo]

[pallid iris]

i'm the fruity ninja!

[little forge]

How is Kuki for you?

[calm ice]

i feel like them not releasing kukis gameplay is because this was all planned so uba can make a joke about it during april fools

[little forge]

This electro infusion on E is pretty nice actually

[calm ice]

[lament cargo]

[calm ice]

We concede. You won. Now release the gameplay.

[leaden shore]

And he had kuki shinobu on the video so idk how beta works but he should be able to do it

just jebaiting us ig

[lament cargo]

yeah hopefully it's later today

[dapper walrus]

YALL THERES ACTUAL SHINOBU FOOTAGE

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbx7SZGLmyK/?utm_medium=copy_link

CHECK THE FOURTH VIDEO

I PROMISE ITS NOT A JOKE

[lament cargo]

My trust has been broken

I'm sorry

[dapper walrus]

i swear on my life it is not an april fools joke

[fast rapids]

oh fucking finally

[dapper walrus]

here theres even a ss

[fast rapids]

I just woke up

[rare abyss]

[nocturne plover]

WHAAT

[warped saddle]

Yoo

[calm ice]

Hmm

Susge

[green dagger]

legit btw

[dapper walrus]

ss from my screen i promise its legit

[unborn ridge]

You missed your joke Wangsheng Funeral Parlor, because I am a French player.

[gaunt pivot]

it shows both the burst and the skill

[lament cargo]

YOU ARE NOW MY FAVORITE PERSON IN THE SERVER

[calm ice]

no one will believe

[fast rapids]

....

I mean

[hallow lark]

Yo okay

[fast rapids]

[hallow lark]

I clicked that link

[fast rapids]

I like that "gameplay"

[pallid iris]

i think her healing should be a bit stronger

[hallow lark]

And her E looks dope

[calm ice]

OH MY GOD ITS REAL

[fast rapids]

pretty sick actually

[hallow lark]

Q is nice too although a really small aoe

[subtle finch]

Actually real

AoE on hE looks good

[rare abyss]

DHAT THE HELL OU WEREN'T TROLLING

[pallid iris]

it looks nice tho

[unborn ridge]

It's fake ?

[rare abyss]

THANK YOU FOR SHARING

[lament cargo]

[subtle finch]

?

[lament cargo]

how many counts did you get on Q Noir ?

[hallow lark]

Hmm E range is nice, Q seems fine too

[dapper walrus]

DONT THANK ME YALL THANK @hallow otter CAUSE THEY GAVE ME THE LINK

[calm ice]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-peachcat-mochi-peachcat-hug-pat-gif-19092449

[subtle finch]

Wait I didn’t see Q in the video

Where Q

[dapper walrus]

also sorry for ping hehe

[green dagger]

third video

[dapper walrus]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbyDMhRLuMa/?utm_medium=copy_link

[subtle finch]

How many hits was that

[lament cargo]

3rd video

[subtle finch]

Looked like a good amount

[dapper walrus]

this one is only kuki gameplay

[lament cargo]

I'm getting like 6-7

[hallow lark]

Q hits like 8 times ?

[fast rapids]

idk about you guys the gameplay from uba looks kinda good

[calm ice]

What does it feel like for a second there when no one believes you

[spare torrent]

Ironic since you guys invented it.

[subtle finch]

I can’t watch it again it won’t let me Cuz I don’t have instagram

[lament cargo]

[dapper walrus]

im used to it actually

[hallow lark]

But is it the 2 second one or 3.5 seconds one ?

[green dagger]

I believed tho

[lament cargo]

let the video finish it should loop

[lament cargo]

2s she's above 50%

[fast rapids]

Wait

did they remove prankster colors

[pallid iris]

i don't exactly get what's kuki's role as both her healing and her damage is kind of not the best?

[fast rapids]

I thought it was my shit connection

[subtle finch]

Does not

[hallow lark]

So 7-8 hits on 2 seconds would mean that it can hit 13-14 times on the 3.5 one no ?

[pastel brook]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/tt9z00/kuki_gameplay_144p_via_ubatcha/

have fun frame counting this

[glossy reef]

AHA
SHINOBU GAMEPLAY

Friendship ended with Uba, now random arabic Genshin user is my friend

[green wave]

Is kukis burst everything everyone wanted?

[lament cargo]

Oh well I've watched it a couple times I'm getting 7ish hits

[fast rapids]

[subtle finch]

So 6/13 was right?

[gaunt pivot]

burst

[long frigate]

got me again fml

[subtle finch]

Yeah I count 7

[green dagger]

yup, 7 times

[subtle finch]

Is it quadratic maybe

[lament cargo]

same

[lament cargo]

[pallid iris]

oh wait she can actually be a good battery

[unborn ridge]

Disappointed for the burst

[pastel brook]

I'm seeing 6

[pallid iris]

would she be better than lisa in raiden teams?

[subtle finch]

Particle info?

[orchid folio]

seems to be good particles

the skill showcase shows them

[pastel brook]

wait 8?

[pallid iris]

you can see it in the gameplay

[orchid folio]

4/6 produces from what I can tell

[dapper walrus]

check the 3rd vid

[fast rapids]

looks like it isn't 100% chance

[gaunt pivot]

looks like it is rng

[subtle finch]

That checks out perfectly for it being same rate as fischl

[orchid folio]

yeah ofc it's rng

[pallid iris]

does kuki offer any debuffing i forgot

[orchid folio]

you thought we were getting 10 particles xd

[subtle finch]

No way In hell it would be guaranteed

[long frigate]

i know i was trying to frame you so people wouldnt click on it, was too late though

[subtle finch]

No

Sadly

[lament cargo]

video shows it to be rng

[pallid iris]

oh

that's a pity

[lament cargo]

[green wave]

Is kukis burst looking good and everything is as expected?

[spare torrent]

Yeah, that particle gen seems pretty great though.

[subtle finch]

If 4/6 is correct she has same particle production rate as Fischl

[gaunt pivot]

could have been every other hit or have a X seconds CD

[subtle finch]

.66% chance

[spare torrent]

Nope, looks shit.

[green wave]

Oh

[lament cargo]

[subtle finch]

They need to increase her bursts scaling

Imo

[lament cargo]

[subtle finch]

Or give it a debuff or healing or something

[pallid iris]

her scalings in general are way too low 💀

[hallow lark]

What xD

[subtle finch]

They made it only do damage and not do good damage

[green dagger]

random particle generation?

[calm ice]

When no one wants to leak it so we rely on a random arab dude from ig

[subtle finch]

4/6 is .66

That’s the same particle rate as fischl

[pallid iris]

wait is the gameplay with or without artifacts and shit

[glossy reef]

No idea

[green wave]

Im just gonna build kuki hp/hp/hp and iron sting, seems the most optimal if her burst is shit

[hallow lark]

Yeah that sounds good

[calm ice]

[subtle finch]

Wait…Sumeru.,.Arab…is this a sign

[spare torrent]

No clue! I just downloaded the video @dapper walrus linked and reposted for easier viewing.

[lament cargo]

[pallid iris]

because if she's built in the showcase then she looks actually tragic

[long frigate]

shouldnt it hit more? she isnt below 50% here

[hallow lark]

Like it hits 7 ish times

[pallid iris]

i really hope they just didn't have any talents and artifacts

[lament cargo]

it hits less when she's above 50

[subtle finch]

You never try to evaluate the damage of leaked stuff

Leaked footage

[hallow lark]

So in 3.5 version it should hit 13ish times

[subtle finch]

Never evaluate damage based off that

[long frigate]

thast what im saying

[lament cargo]

leak showcases like these are only for frames and particles

[green dagger]

seems like its random
it wasnt generating regularly

[long frigate]

it did like 3.5 seconds

[pallid iris]

not evaluating really just hoping that it's not like that

[pallid iris]

ohhh okay

[dapper walrus]

btw the res might be bad so try to improve it if u can

[lament cargo]

yeah the builds they use aren't representative of how the character would actually play

[nova sierra]

how many particles does she get from her e?

[subtle finch]

Kuki good?

[nova sierra]

4?

[glossy reef]

The res quality is bad overall, it's not a download thing

[gaunt pivot]

if you count from the first hit it is 2s

[green dagger]

bruh

[green dagger]

idk, she heals enough to use Clam?

[lament cargo]

it starts at 3s ends at 5s

[dapper walrus]

ahh ok

[hallow lark]

Always have been

[spare torrent]

I'll just pull some pixels out of thin air.

[subtle finch]

If she gets 3 heals per clam looks good enough

Maxi did math on it earlier

Looks like she can provide electro aura, battery, and do decent sub dps damage thanks to clam

[leaden shore]

Why not HP/HP/HB ?

[pallid iris]

okay okay thank god

[green dagger]

seems great then

[green wave]

doesn’t she have alot of HP scaling? Seems stupid

[subtle finch]

Also share your pfp sauce plz

[lament cargo]

I kind of wish she could do decent sub dps even without clam

[subtle finch]

HB would get you more healing

[subtle finch]

Need her Q buffed

[lament cargo]

hopefully her scalings get buffed

[subtle finch]

I don’t get why they gave her Q 0 utility only damage

[spare torrent]

Still time for buffs.

[leaden shore]

And if you're looking for damage you have no crit and electro damage with that build

[subtle finch]

And didn’t even make it good damage

They need to buff her Q imo

[pallid iris]

maybe it just serves purpose for energy regen? still needs buffs tho

[green wave]

:HuTao_Shrug:

[green wave]

oh

[subtle finch]

Everything else seems good except Q. I’d like it if they made her E HP scaling cuz that would be huge

[hollow cipher]

bruh i completely missed that this was a thread lol

[subtle finch]

But they won’t

[hollow cipher]

hows kuki looking to people so far then?

[spare torrent]

Clam doesn't crit, and her own damage is cope, so HP/HP/HP actually yields really good results.

[subtle finch]

Looking pretty good

[hollow cipher]

👀

someone willing to give me a short rundown? heh

[nova sierra]

does she look like a good battery for yae?

[green dagger]

zephyrine-gale I think

[nova sierra]

i have fischl and raiden but

[spare torrent]

Yeah, tbh.

[subtle finch]

Fischl level energy, clam damage, electro aura

[leaden shore]

But the that comes back to my original question, why not hp/hp/hb instead ?

[subtle finch]

[hollow cipher]

hold up we know her particle generation??

[amber plover]

Wow that energy gain is so good I'm ecstatic

[chilly flare]

ah shit ;-; i was gonna do hp/electro/crit

[subtle finch]

Check pins

[spare torrent]

Because Clam already gives HB and she has an HB passive.

[subtle finch]

Her particles are in there

Looks like a 66% chance just like fischl

[leaden shore]

You sure it's better for healing ?

[subtle finch]

Which is excellent

[dapper walrus]

i dont trust the new vid uba posted

[fast rapids]

actual gameplay this time from uba

[hollow cipher]

oh wow didnt know we actually had gameplay

[fast rapids]

it's real trust me

[green dagger]

BRUH, she is literally Akali

[fast rapids]

wait now I sound like a prankster

[dapper walrus]

can u show me a ss

[green dagger]

she does the 5 kunai attack on her NA string

[dapper walrus]

before i check it

[chilly flare]

first time i come in so this mightve been asked before already, whats her best set? i was gonna go millelith 4pc and slap some er% weapon on her

[fast rapids]

yeah this

[hollow cipher]

so you run her full hp clam set correct?

[trim tundra]

Particle generation is good all she needs now is maybe something on her burst like more healing. Just damage when the multipliers are... like this is kinda meh

[misty halo]

so kuki only heals really?

[hollow cipher]

heals + batteries from what ive been told

[misty halo]

and deals dmg ig

[idle turret]

HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS

[long frigate]

j

[subtle finch]

Kuki actually good for Itto? Healing plus battery and constant aura for crystallize

[green dagger]

[chilly flare]

^^^

[fast rapids]

also battery

[green dagger]

bruh, she literally does Akali's Q

[spare torrent]

And can use ToM.

[dapper walrus]

so initally barbara range then turns into something like jean/bennett range for skill?

[safe pebble]

any thoughts on hows kuki with yae as a battery? for non raiden havers 💔

[leaden shore]

Her autos are above the majority of the 5* i'm sorry

[subtle finch]

Wouldn’t clam be better? Itto doesn’t scale well with attack percent iirc

[low lodge]

Yae battery?

[dapper walrus]

but its yae who needs the battery-- right???

[subtle finch]

Idk how much energy production Yae needs but from what we can see her energy production looks equal to Fischls

[safe pebble]

as a battery for yae, yeah? my bad i worded that kinda weird

[nocturne plover]

phys dps kuki😍😍😍😍

[low lodge]

Oh I misunderstood

[spare torrent]

Not sure!

[chilly flare]

okay so question
tenacity 4pc hp/hp/hp er% weapon, is that okay??

[dapper walrus]

yes but u may want some em substats on those hp for extra hb

[tawdry bone]

With Raiden 140 to 160 likewise with fish tho I managed to be comfortable at 115 er

[idle turret]

Wait battery? How's her energy regen?

[tired berry]

Kuki looks AMAZING!

[lament cargo]

if kuki is on par with fisch she should be able to battery yae

[keen sinew]

ok her animation is pog

[tired berry]

Also PJC looks flawless on her, me, a non-haver 😭

[hallow lark]

Shinobu is so sick

[dapper walrus]

its good overall- ig its as good as fisch?

[lament cargo]

same

[tired berry]

Is it on Standard?

[lament cargo]

I'll be a jade cutter haver when they finally put it on a good banner

[lament cargo]

No

[keen sinew]

also her burst is quite different from how I thought it would work

[amber plover]

Wow this actually looks insane

[lament cargo]

[tired berry]

A loss 🥲

[hallow lark]

so which weapons works wonders on her ? usual crit ones that have better place and er weapons(?)

[last flare]

E range looks good enough, that's reassuring

[chilly flare]

i wish </3

[green wave]

Can Kuki battery Yae?

[keen sinew]

I thought it would make a barrier around her

[spare torrent]

Yes

[dapper walrus]

so far we have cinnabar spindle & iron sting as best option (based off of kit estimation)

[tired berry]

I thought it was since the spear is, I think? Guess not 🥲

[hollow cipher]

wait cinnabar?

the def weapon?

[dapper walrus]

yeah

[hallow lark]

that a joke ?

[simple cypress]

cinnamon cookie lets gooo

[dapper walrus]

no

[hallow lark]

nice try ?

[dapper walrus]

earlier we discussed using cinnabar on kuki

[hollow cipher]

i understand iron sting but what am i missing about cinnabar?

[dapper walrus]

the passive

[simple cypress]

cinnabar cd is 1.5s

[hallow lark]

I dunno I'm sorry today whole world turned into Among Us game and that was pretty sus mister

[hollow cipher]

that actually benefits her a decent amount?

[hallow lark]

I can see the appeal

[hollow cipher]

ikr lol idek if yelan is true or not xD

[dapper walrus]

from what the discussion was earlier- then yes it does

[hallow lark]

but that would give her atk def hp and kinda em scalings

[dapper walrus]

yes- which is exactly what she needs, except for def

[mental stag]

Hmm soo .. how much is kuki's particle gen?

[hollow cipher]

hmm interesting

[dapper walrus]

kuki has split scaling

[trim tundra]

Do we know how much electro she applies with her E? standard icd I presume?

[rare abyss]

The passive from Cinnabar increases skill dmg by 80% defence compared to the 45% atk dmg from her skill, is that right ?

[night imp]

how does cinnabar benefit a non defense scaling character such as shinobu

[tired berry]

I’ll use Amenoma with split artefacts probably

[dapper walrus]

passive

[green wave]

Better then Fischl?

[hallow lark]

I meant that as in def and atk buffs her E damage, HP buffs her heals and Q damage, EM buffs her damage and healing

[nocturne plover]

you wont be able to get max stacks

[dapper walrus]

backread from here for more details on the spinabar x kuki

[hallow lark]

when she has spindle

[subtle finch]

Is flat Hp good

[green dagger]

I mean, the weapon literally gives her a DEF scaling

[tired berry]

Which stacks?

[green dagger]

the question is if its good or not

[stiff reef]

Thats a huge area pog

[slow grove]

what are we thinking about iron sting 👀

[dapper walrus]

someone else pls explain the spinabar and kuki discussion to these ppl 😭 i forgot all the details

[dapper walrus]

em substat

for hb

[lament cargo]

you know the answer to that

[nocturne plover]

do you mean the haran?

[night imp]

yeah but if its that good why isnt it used on other character and why should it be used in shinobu

[stiff reef]

Kuki with eula team copium getting stronger

[tawdry bone]

Kuki aoe is good

[green wave]

CONSIDER

[dapper walrus]

so far albedo is the only one who makes use of it

and leaks-wise, kuki can make use of it too

[muted isle]

Yeah that's very wide, i honestly didn't expect it

[green wave]

skyrider greatsword

[green dagger]

what are other character that hits every 2 secs on E and has so low scaling that Cinabar would help it?

[tired berry]

Amenoma, I’m only thinking on a surface level as in tons of ATK so I’m more flexible with the artefact choices.

[tawdry bone]

Kuki best sword animations

[dapper walrus]

ive heard ppl use it on geo mc but i have no idea how that works

[stiff reef]

How copium does something like Eula + Beidou + Kuki + rosaria?/Kaeya?/idfk sound

[tired berry]

I rolled on Yae’s weapon banner and initially lost to Amos, which is a win, but PJC

[tawdry bone]

C1 can increase the aoe by 50%

[red roost]

Does her e work in coop? Like it heals other characters?

[chilly flare]

is it more worth to run iron sting or does she need an er% weapon to function as a battery?

[green wave]

Im glad Kuki can battery yae

[tawdry bone]

Single healing

[flat umbra]

How many particles generates kuki?

[muted isle]

Now that you mention it...
I wonder if the showcase was C0 or C1

[green wave]

yae/kuki/kokomi/kazuha

[chilly flare]

ye sameee ive been waiting for an electro healer battery since yaes been announced

[tawdry bone]

Just use favonious

[muted isle]

If it was C0
Then her C1 is gonna be insane lmao

[chilly flare]

even before that tbh i wanted an electro healer for my kaeya

[green wave]

And what if you don’t have one??

[tawdry bone]

Favonious is pretty easy to get

[chilly flare]

i mean,,,not really its gacha

[red roost]

I don't have one lol,

[green wave]

I have been trying for quite a while

[chilly flare]

i didnt have stringless or rust after a whole year of playing so 💀

[leaden shore]

The c1 is the burst right ?

[dapper walrus]

oh jesus pls take my r2621 stringless

[rare abyss]

yep

[leaden shore]

thx

[little forge]

Hi. Are there findings based on the footage?

[spare torrent]

As Fischl as Fischl.

[fast rapids]

I wonder about kukis particle gen with c2

[chilly flare]

i have it r2 now finally but i would gladly take them 😫 my venti had to keep windblume ode for a year

[leaden shore]

this

[green wave]

???

[spare torrent]

They have the same particle gen, we think.

[muted isle]

And her E aoe is really good too

[green wave]

Oh but with healing, nice

[muted isle]

But Fish's dmg is crazy

[fast rapids]

I mean it's the same but how much particles in one E

[waxen patio]

idk if its worth her over Fischl fschl does a lot of dmg and batteries. Kuki looks like she wont do much damage at all

[fast rapids]

does fischl heal?

[unborn ridge]

Good evening, I would just like to know, could someone give me an overall opinion on Shinobu after all the info we got on her?

[fast rapids]

:A_HuPopcorn:

[subtle finch]

Does she do an E tick right after casting E?

[flat umbra]

Herself only, c4

[runic matrix]

Yeah but if they gen the same you can sub fischl in tazer for example

Non c6 at least

[rare abyss]

c4 copium

[amber plover]

So her Q hits more than expected? Counted like 7 hits in 2 secs

[rigid thorn]

sorry if this is asked often but how is ayato + shinobu looking in an ec comp? something like ayato shinobu fischl/yae + flex ? would solo shinobu be a sufficient enough healer for a team like that?

[orchid folio]

No

[haughty mural]

Guys I can't do this anymore
I can't wait for kuki she's so great

[subtle finch]

Then it should be 6 particles at c2

[atomic osprey]

shut up yall im gonna build dps shinobu

[subtle finch]

Over 15s

[subtle finch]

That means first clam should be 2 heals right

And then after that 3?

[fast rapids]

join me in physical main dps

[rare abyss]

you better show her build next month

[amber plover]

Definitely sufficient. You can use Shinobu to battery either Beidou or Yae and then have an Anemo unit.

[orchid folio]

No the first clam will just be delayed lol

[waxen patio]

seems like a good team but slot in a damage buffer and youll be good

[subtle finch]

Oh

So all are 3?

[carmine oar]

is her damage doodoo fart im sorry if this is asked a lot but i dont think theres a faq yet

[orchid folio]

But the last clam will be 1 instead of 2 ticks

[leaden shore]

Auto attack or clam ?

[rigid thorn]

thank you guys!! sounds fun

[fast rapids]

I advise fischl because ayatos synergy pretty good with her

[atomic osprey]

[runic matrix]

Wait so does she gen 6 or 8 at c0?

[rigid thorn]

yepp thats what i was thinking . c6 fischl cracked

[atomic osprey]

ELECTRO DPS

[subtle finch]

I think Kuki looks very good with Ayato for allowing you to use Kazuha without needing another healer

[leaden shore]

Ooooh

that's fine then

[green dagger]

wait, what comp?

[rigid thorn]

sheesh i hope i get her

[subtle finch]

Ayato Kazuha Kuki Yelan

[green wave]

Is iron sting still looking good on her?

[green dagger]

🤔

[subtle finch]

Also has hydro resonance for clam

[green wave]

I can either give her iron sting or refine my anemoma for ayaka

[green dagger]

Hydro Reso useful?

[subtle finch]

Bruh all my Hp artifacts are rolling flat defense

[trim tundra]

Yeah I'm looking at this as well

[tawdry bone]

Kuki feels like a 5 star

[orchid folio]

In what way lol

She seems like a classic inazuma 4*

[leaden shore]

In the auto attacks

[severe lagoon]

hi what weapon would yall use for her?

[green wave]

She does? Doesn’t seem too niche

[leaden shore]

animations

[tawdry bone]

No fatal death C6

[leaden shore]

Wait a sec

[waxen patio]

i dont wanna doom post but dam all the inazuma 4 stars have been so mid....

[runic matrix]

You think? To me she is pretty flexible

[subtle finch]

Ayato Q>Kuki E>Kazuha EQ>Yelan EQ>Ayato E5N3>Kuki E>Kazuha E>Ayato E5N3

[leaden shore]

so second character that can survive the final calamity ?

[subtle finch]

This is what I’m thinking

[tired berry]

I agree

[muted isle]

Thoughts on ber bis artifacts sets?

[runic matrix]

With her particle gen she can probably fill more roles than fischl

[orchid folio]

Kuki can't e like that noir it won't be up for next rot will it

[red roost]

What artifacts are good on her? And for mainstats? Hp circlet or healing bonus?

[subtle finch]

Clam or ToTM depending on the team

[subtle finch]

Sac sword?

[runic matrix]

I think yesterday we said totm triple hp but idk if it changed today

[orchid folio]

Yeah but it doesn't proc on the 2nd skill

[waxen patio]

only thing is fishcls damagew is pertty nuts

[orchid folio]

So 2nd rot it won't be up again

[subtle finch]

So when do we use it

[green wave]

Yeah thats what i mean

[tawdry bone]

hows her healing

[severe lagoon]

what could be her bis weapon?

[main bay]

Tbf diona held many teams down and her damage is laughable

[leaden shore]

Jade cutter ?

[tawdry bone]

havent looked at her really but down for ayato yelan kazuha kuki now that she seems to have decent electro dot

[subtle finch]

Might just have to do a different rot on rot 2

[runic matrix]

Idk I'm personally not a huge fan of fischl but i don't have her at c6 so maybe that's why

[subtle finch]

Oh did anyone try to measure her ICD?

[severe lagoon]

is totm gonna be ok for her? im planning to prefarm

[subtle finch]

Could we tell from the video

[spare torrent]

R5 Sac Sword is every 16s.

[alpine dock]

The fischl comparisons begin

[waxen patio]

shes a healer and shielder tho plus really good for freezing

[runic matrix]

Her bis imo

[leaden shore]

nah no reactions

[nova sierra]

raiden, yae, kuki, kazuha
infinite ult team

[tawdry bone]

totm?

[severe lagoon]

tenacity

[haughty mural]

That pulse is way wider than I thought it would be

[nova sierra]

🤨

[waxen patio]

thats true her c6 is very good

[tawdry bone]

oh that might actually be good

[tame birch]

looks like it will be her BiS

[main bay]

Healer and battery more important thsn the shield portion these days

[tame birch]

HP + Team buffs

She can fully utilize both

[orchid folio]

Her c6 seems pretty bad to me

[tame birch]

Wait I just remembered clam set

[muted isle]

Uba is probably working on it, along with particles regen too
So we just have to wait

[leaden shore]

It's kinda okay

[spare torrent]

No, it affects her ult's radius.

[severe lagoon]

been thinking about that too

[leaden shore]

and if it can survive the final calamity it would be fun

[runic matrix]

Oops

[waxen patio]

true

[orchid folio]

She's electro just hit the flower thing

[nova sierra]

isnt shinobus c6 the same as hu taos

[orchid folio]

And you survive the calamity

[tame birch]

Is there any team that would want to use Kuki?

[nocturne plover]

without the crit

[runic matrix]

I'd rather take the atack buff tbh

[spare torrent]

It's similar but worse.

[leaden shore]

It's more fun to survive

[trim tundra]

It's about sending a message Maxi

[nova sierra]

any yae team tbh

[severe lagoon]

yea that's why im going with the totm

[muted isle]

How does this team sound
Ayato - Shinobu - Fish - Sucrose (no Kazuha lmao)

[orchid folio]

150 em is so minimal

[runic matrix]

Tazer and sunfire maybe

[leaden shore]

while tanking the attack

[runic matrix]

Well not sunfire with 3 healers kek

[formal edge]

Is it just me or does her burst look terrible? Is it just for high reaction proc or am I missing something

[severe lagoon]

what f2p weapon can she use?

[leaden shore]

iron sting

[runic matrix]

Iron sting

[formal edge]

Iron sting only thing I can think of

[nova sierra]

looks trash

[trim tundra]

I am not a fan either, it's just a random damage aoe I think she could use something more interesting

[formal edge]

Maybe ER wep if needed

[keen sinew]

so have we found out her burst ticks?

[carmine oar]

if not iron sting then is pjc is bis 5 star?

[severe lagoon]

been playing for so long yet no iron sting....

[carmine oar]

for her

[formal edge]

Yeah check pins, it had burst

[spare torrent]

Unironically, Cinnabar Spindle.

[muted isle]

Yes

[amber shell]

its quite underwhelming atleast for me

[runic matrix]

Nah with that burst it's not worth

[amber plover]

I counted 7 in 2 secs
Might be 12 in 3.5

[runic matrix]

I read a bit of what you were talking before but I still don't get why

[tame birch]

It's Amber's except no characters need fast electro procs unlike fast pyro procs

[spare torrent]

13 in 3.5s.

[severe lagoon]

really???

[patent ravine]

Dendro…

We’ll just wait🥰

[tame birch]

[nova sierra]

her bis weapon looks to be jade cutter right

[leaden shore]

7x3.5/2=12.25 so probs 12

[severe lagoon]

i'll craft iron sting then HAHAAHA

[waxen patio]

jade cutter is useless on her no?

[spare torrent]

No, 'cause the leak earlier said 7/13, so if 7's right, 13 is probably it too.

[leaden shore]

Ooh ok

[nova sierra]

gives her hp and buffs her atk on hp

[leaden shore]

mb then

[amber plover]

Sounds not terrible then ngl

[muted isle]

So.. her ult doesn't deal much dmg?

[fast rapids]

no calcs

[runic matrix]

Not really bc of her hp scalings but idk how much dmg she can output