kuki-theorycrafting

[orchid folio]

OK yeah she's busted

[alpine dock]

Yes. That's what is on honey. And does crazy damage.

So idk if its a mistake or what

[orchid folio]

we can take this to Yelan TC

[tropic jacinth]

Just keep it hidden and make it the true TC channel for both

[fast rapids]

I'll just wait for more info for now

[lament cargo]

😔

[amber plover]

Same but I'm optimistic ngl

[alpine dock]

Being the only electro healer will likely make her BiS on a few teams that just need a healer anyway. At least that's my

[lament cargo]

I just hope she does something other than just heal

cuz we already have 2 characters that do that and

[amber plover]

Yup even if she deals no damage and has no energy regain she's already usable
We can only go up from there

[alpine dock]

I'm hoping her icd is low or she just procs a lot to apply lots of electro

[tropic jacinth]

Giver some kind of debuffs

[subtle finch]

Kinda needs that yeah

We should wait for footage or update from Uba tomorrow though

We could have completely incorrect information like we did with Raiden and Koko day 1

Or she could hit way more times than we think

[lament cargo]

[fast rapids]

trust she hits 28 times

[small turtle]

is it bad i am assuming her Q does 5 tick in 0.5 second

like a tesla tower

[fast rapids]

we're inducing too much

[small turtle]

20 on 2 second and 35 on 3,5

[orchid folio]

I don't think that's terrible

I mean there has to be some reason to use her

[hollow cairn]

I wanna put Jade Cutter on kuki bc green matchy matchy

[fast rapids]

correct and based behavior

[regal epoch]

How often does geo traveler q tick, maybe it could be like that

[old depot]

how good will kuki heal?

[shrewd crescent]

How are we doing Kuki Kopers

[real yoke]

4 iirc

[calm ice]

I like that name. Kuki kopers

[real yoke]

mm look up a bit there’s some early calcs

[calm ice]

4 totm right?

Does building crit better or em?

Oh yeah i feel like we dont know yet

[gaunt pivot]

I mean there has to be some reason to use her
dendro

[small turtle]

We waiting on confirmation and footage on some of the leak stuff

[regal epoch]

Don't know about crit but em is not worth it

[calm ice]

So it's like yae EM passive

Nice to have

But

Not worth to build around

[torpid oak]

I was thinking that too

[icy granite]

Based on current info, how good is Kuki rn?

[real yoke]

someone had an interesting question in leakq, is shinobu’s healing going to be for co-op? considering it says active character , it’s like barbs

[calm ice]

Her kit footage should help us clear some questions we have rn

[real yoke]

true

[shrewd crescent]

Classic Mihoyo

[gaunt pivot]

we barely know how her burst and scallings work

[regal epoch]

It's only the active char so probably not

[real yoke]

if that’s the case, she can’t be used in coop but we’ll have to wait and see

[icy granite]

[torpid oak]

I mean she can, just not as a healer

[real yoke]

yeh yeh i meant for heals

[fading yarrow]

WHO do we think Kuki is supporting or is she just generally a healer

[real yoke]

kinda weird for a healer to not have any way of healing in coop even Barbs and Qiqi who can’t heal w skill can heal in coop

but not sure

[small turtle]

For now we wait for footage before any assumptions

[tawdry bone]

Yay kuki tc

[gaunt pivot]

phys rosa /j

[tawdry bone]

Ayato, fischl, kazuha

[real yoke]

you’re right sorry i’m just curious

[ionic tundra]

Oo kuki tc

[calm ice]

Healer and buffer (ToTM holder)

[ionic tundra]

Oooo

[fading yarrow]

Oh Yae support when

[ionic tundra]

What's totm and which of her skills buff characters

?

[orchid folio]

Tenacity of the Millelith

[calm ice]

Tenacity of the milileth

[ionic tundra]

Ohh

[calm ice]

100% uptime with her e at c2

[orchid folio]

We need to get footage before we can make more claims

[ionic tundra]

Woah

[calm ice]

waits faster

[ionic tundra]

So is she in a way like electro Bennett?

[tawdry bone]

Qiqi

[gaunt pivot]

her EM passive is like a Flat bonus?

[ionic tundra]

I don't mean to compare them but you know

[old depot]

yes + DoT(?) - atk buff

[orchid folio]

it's skill damage% and healing bonus%

[ionic tundra]

Makes sense

[ionic tundra]

Uhh what's DoT?

[tawdry bone]

Damage over time

[ionic tundra]

Ohh kk ty

[orchid folio]

actually it might not be healing bonus it might be a separate thing entirely

but it shouldn't matter much in any case

[ionic tundra]

I hope i can shove in noblesse on her 🙏

[cerulean sapphire]

we def need playstyle to see how much that e and q attacks

the saving grace for kuki is if her e and q are superfast

[calm ice]

Yeah, but not really. Bennett buff is way better. It's also nice to have a healer that can free benny

[cerulean sapphire]

for me

[small turtle]

What i need is frames, particle gen, cd latency, and much more

[ionic tundra]

Kk makes sense

[fast rapids]

hey remember sus leaks saying yae will be better with mod when you have kuki

[ionic tundra]

I hope kuki comes home in a 10 pull

My pity is so high and im guaranteed

[calm ice]

Imagine her q hits 10x per second

[ionic tundra]

[ionic tundra]

Gg

[calm ice]

[robust timber]

ggwp hoyo

[orchid folio]

if it hits 10x per second she's legitimately overpowered

so that's cool here's hoping

with R1 black sword 2TF / 2NO that puts her at almost 300k dpr

[gaunt pivot]

imagine the duration of her burst is just wrong

[icy granite]

What if she hits 3-6?

I can’t see her hitting more than 6 tbh

[small turtle]

I am assuming 3 hits per 0.5 second

[orchid folio]

the only assumption I'm actually making is she hits at least 14 times

wait

no that doesn't make sense it should be 7 times

[ionic tundra]

I wonder if kuki will work well with iron sting

Because of the healing

[gaunt pivot]

does anything in the game hits this fast?

[cerulean sapphire]

sara q I think?

[regal epoch]

The fastest ticking dmg would be burning dmg i think

[cerulean sapphire]

or is it slower

sara q hits a few times right

[small turtle]

She has a tesla tower

[cerulean sapphire]

what if it's that fast

[small turtle]

[rare socket]

Maybe it works like Lvl 3 Xinyan shield

[gaunt pivot]

i was thinking like venti burst

[cerulean sapphire]

and it gets longer due to her hp

[icy granite]

Doesn’t burning hit like 5-7 times a second

[cerulean sapphire]

c5 kuki dps seems plausible if her scaling is like that, but she needs a grouper

[regal epoch]

Anything else ticks faster than that?

[orchid folio]

I think venti burst absorption can do damage stupid fast

[icy granite]

I’m not aware of any

[glad harness]

burning hits 4 times per sec if I remember correctly

[icy granite]

Ah

[plush mirage]

the best case is amber with 18 hits over 2s

[regal epoch]

Ayaka q also hits 4 times per second right?

[plush mirage]

amber ult

[regal epoch]

Well i hope it's 4 times/s

[gaunt pivot]

scary facts no one remembers

[regal epoch]

But the dmg probably still wont be high

[torpid oak]

Let’s hope Kuki has an Amber ult equivalent

[plush mirage]

yeah there's have been some discussion earlier on how the short duration is kinda similar to amber

[orchid folio]

what if it's 18 times over 2 seconds

[cerulean sapphire]

hopefully the aoe is big

[orchid folio]

but over 3.5 seconds

[plush mirage]

it's nasty yeah

[orchid folio]

that's 31 hits 😭

[plush mirage]

if the rate is that fast you can go kuki Q -> bennett eq

[regal epoch]

It's 100 times per second

[plush mirage]

and probably proc 4 overload

[torpid oak]

I knew Kuki would be cracked /j

[small turtle]

Nake kuki shrine a tesla tower

[shrewd crescent]

I don't even think electro abyss mage is that fast. Now they can know how it feels

[icy granite]

Do electro mages really have an ability where they attack that much?

[orchid folio]

the ring thing

it's never killed you before?

[calm ice]

How long does her ult last?

[small turtle]

Am i the only one who thinks her burst might be more into Primary Targets rather than ST

[icy granite]

Ring?

[plush mirage]

from the wording seems like it's aoe

[icy granite]

Bruh what ring thing, what am I missing out on

[tropic jacinth]

Thats like their only attack

[regal epoch]

_ _

[icy granite]

This?

[calm ice]

Ooohhh

[icy granite]

Ngl I don’t even remember that

[ionic tundra]

Ah yes

Ayaka leaks

[gaunt pivot]

@orchid folio Hey maxi, do you see potential in using Kuki in one of your Ayato teams? Since Sayu was chosen to fill the healer spot we could have Kazuha and replace another electro with kuki (though replacing fischl or sara would be rough)

[orchid folio]

yeah I'm considering where it would work

I'll calc it once I
a. Validate the Ayato teams on live
b. Get footage and more info on Kuki

[hollow monolith]

Hard to think where i could put her... i mean if she gave a shield that would be one thing

[hot hornet]

[shrewd crescent]

It hits surprisingly fast

[little charm]

i do not understand this kit

[shrewd crescent]

What about it don't you understand

[little charm]

what does the q do

[simple cypress]

Is there a Kuki TF cult yet? I'd like to join

[shrewd crescent]

Damage based on hp

[orchid folio]

her skill has 100% uptime why would you use TF

[plush mirage]

until we see it in action just assume the ult is aoe damage that scales purely on hp

[icy granite]

I see

[plush mirage]

and nothing more

[shrewd crescent]

If her E damage was also hp scaling

[hallow lark]

based on wording her Q might also cleanse right ?

[icy granite]

Does it say that it’s atk?

[little charm]

like, how many times?

[shrewd crescent]

Thats what we don't know

[plush mirage]

it might be just confusing words used to describe it

[shrewd crescent]

Healing is hp, damage looks to be atk%

Which is stupid

[little charm]

why is she split scaling damn

[hallow lark]

because otherwise she might be too good for a four star

[hollow monolith]

They really wont let us have bennet2

[little charm]

5 years later and we'll still be using bennett and xq

[ionic tundra]

Bennett broke became the pyro archon

They don't want that 2 happen

Again

[shrewd crescent]

We should just wait for gameplay clips

[icy granite]

The skill dmg is atk but grass ring dmg is hp right?

[ionic tundra]

Wait does kuki buff ur dmg or nah

[little forge]

So how is Kuki?

[little charm]

so where do we even get em on her

Iron sting?

[little forge]

Black iron sword?

I still have it...

[hallow lark]

I mean yeah look Yelan looks like Xingqiu 2.0 that's stronger but she's a five star

[little forge]

There's another 4* EM sword

I forgot its name

[ionic tundra]

Iron sting

[plush mirage]

iron sting and alley flash

[little forge]

Nah

[plush mirage]

but alley flash has low em

[little forge]

Yeah, alley flash

[ionic tundra]

Alley flash is harder to get compared 2 iron sting

[hallow lark]

Iron Sting might be an amazing f2p option no ?

[ionic tundra]

Yep

[little forge]

Same for dark iron sword?

[plush mirage]

looks like 4* bis if you just want more healing

[ionic tundra]

Wait so does kuki buff ur dmg or

[hallow lark]

finally my lv90 Iron Sting will have it's use again

[ionic tundra]

Nice

[icy granite]

Don’t think so

[ionic tundra]

Unfortunate

[hallow lark]

I don't get her Q it only lasts for either 2 or 3,5 seconds ?

[little forge]

Relatively high EM, more damage against electro-affected enemies while low attack doesn't matter

[ionic tundra]

Dang guess we'll just make her a full healer

[hallow lark]

that sounds very short

[granite cave]

clam?

[torpid oak]

It’s probably a multi hit effect, only problem is without video we can’t really tell

[hallow lark]

I like to think it's this case

but that sounds kinda underwhelming

[hollow monolith]

Maybe its just beta memery

[hallow lark]

but after all she's a healer so I guess ?

[plush mirage]

without knowing how many times it hit we dont know

[hollow monolith]

Maybe she is just baby raiden with healing of kokomi keke

[hallow lark]

correct me if I'm wrong, but currently there are no "good" 4pieces for her

[orchid folio]

Totm is perfect for her

[torpid oak]

Tenacity works pretty nice

[plush mirage]

uhh

[hallow lark]

oooh yeah

her E lasts for 12 seconds

[icy granite]

I’m overdosing on copium for Kuki to be an electro battery

[hallow lark]

if she was a battery she would do everything

so she would be another bennett ?

[shrewd crescent]

Haha i wish

That's what we need to find out

[supple snow]

What's her Q can anyone explain in razor language?

[little forge]

Why not

[subtle finch]

we dont know

[shrewd crescent]

Field of death

[subtle finch]

need footage

[supple snow]

Ah

[icy granite]

Yae battery

[shrewd crescent]

I'm imagining it to be 1 of 3 things

Thunder manifestation dart shockwaves
Lisa ult
Electro abyss mage

[hallow lark]

(this is an assumption) but you press Q she deals some damage and maybe has a cleanse too ?

[shrewd crescent]

[ionic tundra]

When do you think the footage will be released? Just your estimation

[torpid oak]

Tomorrow most likely

[subtle finch]

ask uba not me

[hallow lark]

next 3 days max

[ionic tundra]

Ah i see

[ionic tundra]

Hope so

[hallow lark]

imagine the gull when they start leaking things on April 1st

and say that everything is a joke

[ionic tundra]

Wow

[icy granite]

I’m having trouble imagining the “barrier” part tbh, like will it be a field, a ring or an orb like elysia’s ultimate in honkai

[hallow lark]

it's probably a field ?

barrier might be just a flavour text

it's more of a area where she does damage with her Q

[ionic tundra]

This is where we wait

And suffer

[icy granite]

Friday it is

[icy granite]

Tbh I don’t think so

[fierce echo]

what is the best weapon for kuki?

[hallow lark]

Freedom Sworn ?

maybe dunno

[fierce echo]

based on our current weapon roster

[hallow lark]

I wonder if you could have 2 Es with Sac Sword

[fierce echo]

oh

[little forge]

For now it's not obvious

I think it's too early to understand if she needs an ER or EM weapon

[hallow lark]

she has some EM scalings so we can speculate about EM weapons

she has 60 cost burst(which might change, god please no) so I doubt she needs ER weapon

some ER subs should suffice

also she might fill the spot in EC comps where you don't run Kokomi as hydro or any healer at all

so ER might not be a good investment

[little forge]

Than her best weapon is obvious

[hallow lark]

yeah Freedom Sworn

as I said

[little forge]

It's dark iron sword

[hallow lark]

YOOO

true f2p

[little forge]

Too bad we cannot refine it

[hallow lark]

I don't even have it

[little forge]

You don't have it or you has trashed it?

[hallow lark]

I never got it

[little forge]

Ah, it's easy

You should speak with a guy in Li Yue

[hallow lark]

Ik, I just never bothered

[little forge]

So now is a good moment to do this

[hallow lark]

nah she will run Iron Sting that my Kazuha ditched

[green wave]

Iron sting?

[hallow lark]

assuming she won't run ER weapons it should be Freedom Sworn > Alley Flash > Iron Sting

[woven locust]

wow no timer here

[waxen patio]

does she look like she will be good? i dont see anything that standout about her?

[glad harness]

being electro healer is already stand out enough

[woven locust]

need vid to see how her works

if her E is large aoe then can be good electro applier and healer at same time

[green wave]

How big is her em passive?

[hallow lark]

check pins

[green wave]

I don’t know if thats good or not, I’m not amazing w exact numbers

[hallow lark]

her healing and damage is boosted by EM, healing and Q damage scales from HP and E damage from atk

[shrewd crescent]

Jade

That's my opinion

[hallow lark]

I'm betting on Freedom Sworn

but then again we are in theorycrafting so everyone is correct and wrong at the same time

[upbeat acorn]

Would there much of a point in trying to get her to do damage even despite split scaling?

[shrewd crescent]

True. Id like to know the thought process behind Freedom Sworn tbh

[muted isle]

Thoughts on her bis sets?

[real yoke]

freedom sworn i haven’t seen that yet, i thought her EM passive wasn’t that great

[hallow lark]

actually you need to be on field to proc it don't you ?

hmm

[real yoke]

4pc tena or 4clam is what i’ve been seeing

[muted isle]

Freedom sworn passive? No, you can proc it off-field

[hallow lark]

I mean we should see that everything has a potential no ?

[spare torrent]

Yeah, I'm definitely going 4pc ToM for her.

[muted isle]

You're right, since her E has very good uptime

[hallow lark]

12 duration 15 sec CD

3 sec downtime

[spare torrent]

15s duration on C2.

Her E is infinite use at C2.

[muted isle]

Oh right 100% uptime on C2, wow

[hallow lark]

which would make it 100% uptime ?

god that sounds

decent actually

but then again you have 100% uptime on totm too

[spare torrent]

Yeah, she's legit gonna be the best ToM user.

[real yoke]

no definitely i just wanted to know the thought process behind it cause i hadn’t seen it mentioned

[green wave]

Could you give kuki HP/EM/CRIT?

[hallow lark]

I just thought since she has EM scaling why not expand on that front and see the EM swords options

[spare torrent]

Why would you?

[real yoke]

akane and noir were doing some early calcs with festering iirc

[muted isle]

Forget about EM completely, it's useless

[hallow lark]

and FreedomSworn sounds like a natural fit for her

[green wave]

everyone is talking about EM scaling and em weapons??

[shrewd crescent]

Think of it like Yae's passive. Just because em is there doesn't inherently mean that you need to build into said passive. Though em does sound interesting

Maybe hp/hp/hb

With sucrose support

I wanna see max healing Kuki

[real yoke]

that’s true i was also seeing them say to use sac sword so you could get the effect for her burst more often

[green wave]

So no iron sting then??

[real yoke]

idk what the numbers i was seeing early mean but i was seeing like 24k for her healing ?

[tropic jacinth]

We still dont know what the 25% means so dont count it out yet

[shrewd crescent]

At that point an em or er weapon would be fine so yes Iron sting

[real yoke]

that’s true let’s still wait for gameplay before making hard assumptions

[spare torrent]

Probably without C2, that sounds about right.

With C2, more like 30k.

[muted isle]

Do you think 125 flat dmg increase at 500 em is good?

[shrewd crescent]

If we had Homa but a sword (no not jade cutter) that would be kinda cool tbh

[real yoke]

credit to akane ofc

this was from earlier

[spare torrent]

Has anyone here talked about Phys DPS Shinobu? Her auto multipliers are pretty good, and she's electro, so superconduct is right there...

[muted isle]

It said 25% of em
If it said 25% for every point of em, then yeah that would be so good

[real yoke]

i should’ve asked if he was calcing all of this at C4 but i assume so

[muted isle]

Idk man it's so confusing

[shrewd crescent]

I haven't actually seen them yet

[little charm]

I don't think it's flat

Well if it is it's a dead passive 🗿

[spare torrent]

They'll probably modify her kit in some way.

So, I think we all need to take to twitter and talk about how shitty she is (even though she's a perfectly acceptable support as is).

[proud perch]

Is her ult duration really low or I'm missing the point?

[little charm]

we don't know how mamy times it attacks also idk what it means by barrier

[spare torrent]

Yeah, I don't see what her ult's doing either

[real yoke]

it is low but it’s not really for healing it’s just some extra damage as far as i can see

[icy granite]

Probably does a lot of hits like ambers

[real yoke]

that’s true

[spare torrent]

When it said barrier, I almost thought she was gonna be a shielder too. lol

[eternal pumice]

what do you think about black sword on kuki? will it be a good weapon for her? maybe too early but I think no harm in asking 😄

would help me decide on what weapon to take from current BP

[proud perch]

Yeah but if it's like 1 tick per second that's really low

Might as well not have an ult :p

[upbeat acorn]

Can't be 1 tick per second if it lasts 3.5 right?

[spare torrent]

2 ticks per second!

[proud perch]

Probably every 0.5 or something

[runic matrix]

how much can she heal tho?

[spare torrent]

She heals an ok amount.

[runic matrix]

enough to make clam viable?

[real yoke]

it’s fine but it’s not doing much for her unless you want dps

[spare torrent]

Probably tops out at like 30k per rotation, so I don't see clam being viable.

[hallow lark]

She's made to be a totm bot

[little charm]

wouldnt tom me better

[real yoke]

yeh probably the only person besides zhongli who this set is really made for

[spare torrent]

I'm convinced miHoYo made her as Zhongli replacement for Itto comps.

[real yoke]

if her heals can’t match up to clam she’ll just be a support on tena

[hallow lark]

Kokomi

[real yoke]

wait why would she replace zhongli??

[orchid folio]

Kuki cons are wrong

[real yoke]

kokomi can heal and use clam tho

[runic matrix]

maybe she is made as a fischl replacement

[orchid folio]

Let me get the CHS in here

[spare torrent]

Because she can use ToM and consistently generates crystals.

[real yoke]

yes i heard

[runic matrix]

but that would depend on particle gen ig

[spare torrent]

Wait, cons are... wrong?

[orchid folio]

wait no Kuki looks the same

Yelan cons were different in English and Chinese

Kuki looks to be the same

[real yoke]

but zhongli has res shred and can use totm and can freeze enemies

is that enough to introduce electro on a normally mono geo comp

and do you need crystals when zhongli has almost 100% uptime

i mean

she won’t be bad ofc

[spare torrent]

Yes, Zhongli res shreds. I'm not saying use Shinobu over Zhongli, but like... if you're using Itto/Albedo/Gorou and you don't have Zhongli, there's currently no real good choice to put into that slot. Shinobu fills that slot.

[real yoke]

yeh yeh ofc i thought you were saying she’s the better option in comparison to him that’s my fault

[runic matrix]

she is a flex kinda

[spare torrent]

She's probably legit gonna be the best ToM user.

[dapper walrus]

mono electro comp with raiden-keqing-sara-kuki would work, right?

*for context: i put keqing since i dont have yae and beidou doesnt work with raiden

[real yoke]

a bit awkward with the synergy but yeh it’s alright

[runic matrix]

so for stats she goes em or hp sands?

as totm bot

[hallow lark]

too early to say honestly

[real yoke]

likely HP let’s just wait for more calcs

[dapper walrus]

raiden-keqing isnt that awkward when u get used to it tho- but thanks!

[real yoke]

we need to see her gameplay

[runic matrix]

fair enough

i just hope she can sub fischl on tazer

[real yoke]

yeh i can see raiden recharging her burst and such i just mean getting buffs from sara and switching between the two but if it works for you that’s good

[dapper walrus]

oh keqing works as a dps during raiden's off-burst time

and deals damage in situations where i dont need to use raiden's burst (e.g small enemies like slimes)

i was just making sure kuki would work them tho ;v;

[uncut mango]

is kuki's heal one time or continuous?

[runic matrix]

every 1.5 secs i believe

[uncut mango]

oh so she is the electro healer everyone's waiting then huh

[spare torrent]

Yes.

[shrewd crescent]

Yes

[runic matrix]

yeah

[shrewd crescent]

Well not me

[runic matrix]

AHHAHA

[shrewd crescent]

I didn't want to touch that with a 10 foot pole but I'm cool with it now

[runic matrix]

she will complete my tazer comp finally

[shrewd crescent]

Shes hot so

[dapper walrus]

yeah since electro is practically the only element without a healer lmao

[uncut mango]

How's her damage multipliers

[shrewd crescent]

Looking fine-ish we just need to see stuff like her ult works

[uncut mango]

My taser's healer is kokomi, i wonder if it would be better to just replace beidou

[spare torrent]

The thing that really scares me is that I was like, "I hope Shinobu's a healer that does 15s DoT with E and can proc crystals/ToM consistently." The only thing I didn't get was that I was hoping she'd be DEF based. lol

[dapper walrus]

why would she be def based

electro characters are never def based

[runic matrix]

i was actually hoping she went full on either em or atq

not split scaling

[uncut mango]

im not expecting too much from inazuma 4 stars tbh

[dapper walrus]

set-wise, considering no new artifacts, totm is probably her best set rn, right?

[runic matrix]

seems to be

or at least she will default to it

[dapper walrus]

and weapon would be.. something with EM to help her split scaling?

[uncut mango]

is she like xinyan that deals dot lol or smth

that's how i imagine she would be ngl. at least just how it looks like

[runic matrix]

some mad lad will put jade cutter on her ahahha

[subtle finch]

According to google translate Kuki is Wife

[shrewd crescent]

Always knew she was waifu

[dapper walrus]

well i'll put iron sting on her if her em scaling is really good lol

[green wave]

aw how nice

[dapper walrus]

idk if it'll work on her tho

[runic matrix]

yeah i'll prob do aswell

maybe amenoma

[slim glen]

y is kuki tc a thread not a channel

[subtle finch]

Threads are way better

[supple oriole]

Ina Wife is a direct translation of Inazuma not, Kuki

[idle turret]

Hello Kuki enjoyers

[subtle finch]

And she’s not gonna get the traffic or a 5 star so we hopefully won’t reach max capacity on thread

[subtle finch]

Way to kill the moment

[supple oriole]

[tropic jacinth]

Waifu floor

[dapper walrus]

but then what if we do reach max capacity

[subtle finch]

We’ll have to make a channel

[spare torrent]

To support her man.

I knew she wouldn't be, I just hoped.

[dapper walrus]

ehh, i dont really think mhy would make another support for itto when theres already gorou and yunjin

[spare torrent]

I mean.

Shinobu can work with Itto.

[young mesa]

[dapper walrus]

no i meant a support thats specifically tailored to meet itto's needs and uses the same set

[idle turret]

Wait. Isn't there like a dark iron sword? EM sub, electro related passive, unlocked through npc?

[young mesa]

yeah...

[dapper walrus]

like how sara is to raiden

[dapper walrus]

yeah.. its a 3 star and cant be refined tho

only 1 copy

[young mesa]

You see, Kuki isnt a simp

[idle turret]

Yup. Still an option tho, maybe for early game?

[dapper walrus]

maybe

[shrewd crescent]

I'm the simp

For kuki

[dapper walrus]

kuki is not simp, we are the simps

[spare torrent]

I don't think it's that simple.

[dapper walrus]

are you saying u cant simplify the simplicity

[idle turret]

What other options do we have for swords? Are we looking for an Albedo 2.0

[spare torrent]

PJC.

[dapper walrus]

freedom sworn? em substat was what i thought of

[idle turret]

...for a healer? Hello????

[spare torrent]

It's the only sword that gives HP%.

[dapper walrus]

no no- the sword on kuki should have em if u run her hp set

since split scaling

[young mesa]

you mean DPS kuki or...?

[spare torrent]

Her EM scaling seems kinda low.

[dapper walrus]

unless u run hp/em/? then the sword has to be either one

[jagged badge]

The "duration: 2.0s/3.5" is the duration of the barrier of her ult ?

[spare torrent]

I don't see why you need any EM.

[nocturne plover]

her passive

[spare torrent]

I still don't see why.

[dapper walrus]

burst duration is 2.0s is when hp high, 3.5 is when hp low

[dapper walrus]

read her passives bro

[tropic jacinth]

Its either to low or too good
That 25% its worded wierdly for now

[nocturne plover]

it’s 75%

[dapper walrus]

heals are increased by 75% and dmg dealt is increased by 25% of EM

therefore, more heals = more hp and more em

i dont think her kit can be maximised if you only max out one of her scalings

since her cons practically made her to be split scaled

[runic matrix]

That's the catch

[spare torrent]

But if you have like 200EM, 75% of that is only 150. 150 extra healing.

[dapper walrus]

which is why theres the hp scaling

[idle turret]

Kinda frustrating how hoyoverse wants us to build our electro characters with em so bad... I feel like we're looking at a good ending passive for what could've been Yae's A4

[runic matrix]

Perhaps you can do hp goblet and em sands

But why would you tho

[dapper walrus]

not hoyoverse making us put em on electro when electro is the one element that can barely make use of em

[idle turret]

Still angry as shit that both of Yae's passives suck ass

[spare torrent]

I'm just gonna run full HP unless the wording on that changes or it's a mistranslation.

[subtle finch]

pjc give high cr hp and attack for her E

[dapper walrus]

or u run hp/hp/crit(?) and an em weapon

[subtle finch]

oh @small turtle did you calc clam set with HP goblet HP sands and healing circlet?

[uncut mango]

they should have been mostly er scaling but theyd stray far from raiden if that were the case

[idle turret]

Bah I beg to differ when it comes to overload, but otherwise yeah fjskjfjd

[runic matrix]

Well i'm refering to a full on healer build

[dapper walrus]

which is why i said barely- since overloaded is the one exception

[runic matrix]

But i forgor about the weapon stat 💀

[idle turret]

No because fr

[alpine dock]

Eh. I'm iffy on building her for damage based on what I've seen. I think healer build is the way to go. Unless you have cracked artifacts and pjc

[dapper walrus]

then hp/hp/hp and weap stat is em

[idle turret]

Ah, apologies for misinterpreting then

[dapper walrus]

its fine

[uncut mango]

who will be replaced by kuki in a taser team fischl or beidou

[runic matrix]

Or 2 hp 1 em and weapon

[alpine dock]

Depends on her particle gen

[runic matrix]

Maybe 2 hp healing and em weapon

[idle turret]

I'd say Fischl but I'm biased since I have triple crowned Beidou lmao

[uncut mango]

ngl, itd be hard for me to replace either

[runic matrix]

At least she looks somewhat versatile in terms of stat alocation

[ivory shoal]

Will kuki be good in an ayato team comp consisting of yunjin, kazuha and ayato?

[dapper walrus]

personally, im going to run hp/em/hp if her kit doesnt majorly change

weapon is also going to be em to balance it out

[real yoke]

for ec? probably

[idle turret]

Man I sure fucking hope she has good particle gen because otherwise I'm gonna start throwing hands

[spare torrent]

HP/HP/HP would be better healing.

[dapper walrus]

i think so? idk how the rotations would work tho

[dapper walrus]

im going half healer half dmg

[spare torrent]

Maybe they'll buff her A4. lol

[dapper walrus]

not full on healer since i run keqing with aquila (keqing hybrid build, dont ask)

[real yoke]

probably ayato burst, Kazuha swirl, Kuki and then Yunjin and ayato skill but i think the timing is tight

[runic matrix]

I hope they do

[idle turret]

Based

[subtle finch]

we need to know things like how many times her Q hits before we know is best to build her

and her icd

[uncut mango]

yeah full-on healing would be a waste in a taser team especially if either fischl or beidou will be replaced, I'd still want a bit of damage to compensate

[runic matrix]

Does icd affect totm?

[subtle finch]

no

[spare torrent]

It effects crystal generation though.

[idle turret]

This + we have no idea how her electro app is compared to those two

[dapper walrus]

icd doesnt affect mono electro so i'll be fine... i think

[runic matrix]

Well then it doesn't matter that much imo

[subtle finch]

icd matters for enabling and/or reacting.

[idle turret]

At least her burst is 60 cost.......

[uncut mango]

if kuki has low damage then replacing fischl or beidou seems wasteful, and if i have kokomi id rather use her instead if i just want healing

[runic matrix]

Well nvm

[subtle finch]

huh?

[rose tiger]

taser?

[runic matrix]

I will delete

[idle turret]

CRYSTALLIZE?

[runic matrix]

I made a severe lack in my judegement

[subtle finch]

[idle turret]

Absolutely agreed

[spare torrent]

Is she the first character with a 60 cost burst since Yoimiya?

[dapper walrus]

electrocharged... overloaded...

[spare torrent]

Oh.

Yun Jin.

[long frigate]

yunjin

[spare torrent]

Is she the first Inazuma character with a 60 cost burst since Yoimiya?

[half torrent]

[long frigate]

well

[runic matrix]

Yeah yeah i'm very dumb i apologize hehe

[long frigate]

if she was from inazuma then yes

[subtle finch]

she is

[runic matrix]

It's just me and .y personal hate to overload

[uncut mango]

but if she has low damage, then she MUST have good healing AND energy gen to compensate, otherwise she'll just be the typical lackluster inazuma 4 star. please mihoyo make her better

[subtle finch]

ell what are you talking about

[long frigate]

ajsdlk;fj

i came from yelan TC

look

ayato release

[spare torrent]

😂

[long frigate]

yelan and shinobu

[tropic jacinth]

[subtle finch]

yelan doesnt have a 60 cost burst

[long frigate]

lot to keep in your head

[subtle finch]

what are you talking about ell

[long frigate]

i know i know

[subtle finch]

[long frigate]

ignore me

[spare torrent]

ell's just all turned around.

It's ok.

[long frigate]

just TC mute me tbh

[dapper walrus]

if you run raiden hyper you get used to the constant knockback </3

[runic matrix]

I run sunfire actually

[dapper walrus]

huh

[runic matrix]

And still hate it

[dapper walrus]

thats weird, but i get it

[ivory shoal]

Ngl I really want kuki

She seems fun

[idle turret]

Said it before and I'll say it again: if she has shit energy gen like most of Inazuma cast I'm throwing hands

[ivory shoal]

She's also going to be fucking amazing for my ayato team

[runic matrix]

But it's overload + 12.1.1

[dapper walrus]

raiden is lit the only one who saves the energy gen for inazuma <//3 ig sara's up there too but she needs so much er i hate it

[spare torrent]

I just remember when I started using Itto, I was super thrown off by how amazing his particle gen is.

[runic matrix]

On the rest of 12.1 its fine

[atomic osprey]

hate hoyoverse for making shinobu healer 😡😡😡

[idle turret]

Oh shit is it? Yet another reason why Itto is king

[tropic jacinth]

[dapper walrus]

ah, the wonderful pain that is floor 12

[spare torrent]

Yeah, he generates 3-4 particles, but his E cooldown is low, so you can cast his E at the beginning and end of his Q.

So, he's generating 6-8 particles per rotation.

[atomic osprey]

Please tell me kuki will do more damage than diona 😭😭

[dapper walrus]

diona's meant to be a full on support... u cant exactly compare them

[atomic osprey]

Hmmm

[dapper walrus]

especially with how kuki is still unreleased and changes can and will be made to her kit

[ivory shoal]

How much em is good for kuki?

[atomic osprey]

Free substat em?

[ivory shoal]

Oh

What is her recommended build

[dapper walrus]

she's still unreleased, we cant know for sure

but right now her default set is totm

[idle turret]

Bruh her kit was leaked today

[runic matrix]

There is no way diona outdamages her

Unless

[dapper walrus]

the weapon is.. complicated

[ivory shoal]

Ah okay

[tropic jacinth]

We need footage on how she works to at least have a little idea what to focus on

[dapper walrus]

i saw a diona hit 40k with the shield.. said diona was mine with my ganyu build

[runic matrix]

Jesus the delay on this

[runic matrix]

HAHAHAHAH

With shenhe or without?

[dapper walrus]

without

it was lit just

[runic matrix]

No shot

[dapper walrus]

bennett burst

😭

[runic matrix]

&@&@&

The diona incident

[dapper walrus]

i just put down the bennett burst, switch to diona, skill, and a 40k 😭 and i was doing that just bc i was resinless

[spare torrent]

So... I was thinking what if... Pale Flame Shinobu/NO Rosaria/ToM Zhongli/Yun Jin?

[runic matrix]

Perfect example of what no resin does to a mf

[dapper walrus]

physical shinobu???

very interesting thought, i must say

[spare torrent]

Wait, what am I thinking.

[dapper walrus]

no no its a good idea

im going to try it

[spare torrent]

Zhongli should use Pale Flame. Shinobu should use ToM there. lol

[dapper walrus]

when i can

[dapper walrus]

even better omg

[spare torrent]

FUCK

[runic matrix]

I didn't even bother to check her na multipliers

[spare torrent]

They're good.

[dapper walrus]

wait

what if

[spare torrent]

But Zhongli is the faster attacker and can get through Yun Jin's quota.

[dapper walrus]

c6 bennett + crimson witch shinobu

or chongyun + blizzard shinobu

[runic matrix]

Cursed

[torpid oak]

Do we know how fast Kuki attacks?

[dapper walrus]

nope

no footage

[torpid oak]

[runic matrix]

Until we get vid

[dapper walrus]

we must wait for beta

[runic matrix]

I just hope she has good area coverage with dem atacks

[dapper walrus]

i hope her aoe is as good as keqing's

[spare torrent]

We don't. LOL

[runic matrix]

If she does i might mess around with physical

[dapper walrus]

is it safe to prefarm for her ascenscion

boss materials

[spare torrent]

Anyways, yeah, I'm 100% gonna use her as ToM support/Electro enabling for a phys Zhongli superconduct comp.

[dapper walrus]

i mean

[dapper walrus]

i wish you luck on that

[torpid oak]

I don’t think ascension mats have ever changed in beta iirc

[runic matrix]

Considering her role as the only electro healer might aswell

[dapper walrus]

aight time to beat up that stupid robot snake

[runic matrix]

I'm definitely pulling for her don't care who is the 5 star on banner

[dapper walrus]

pls let it be yelan + kazuha

that way i dont have to worry about farming for yelan too

[runic matrix]

Might be yelan first and kazu yoimiya second

That's my guess only

[dapper walrus]

im fine with getting yelan but ive been saving up for kazuha </3 and the mats is a huge problem

[shrewd crescent]

But Kuki ninja. Ninja hit fast. Copium or nah? :A_HmmTao:

[shrewd crescent]

With the abyss buff? I doubt it

[dapper walrus]

time to cry

[runic matrix]

Oh right that's a thing

[dapper walrus]

these mats will be the death of me

sure the boss is easy but damn i hate farming

[runic matrix]

Then yoimiya is coming back for sure

[dapper walrus]

WAIT A MINUTE

kuki uses

raiden boss

right

[runic matrix]

Yeah

[dapper walrus]

shit

[runic matrix]

The eye things i believe

Ah well fuck

Time to farm ig

[dapper walrus]

and i got the flower ornaments when farming for solvents

at least i have solvents :,)

[hollow cairn]

ah hell naw kuki stayin at 6-6-6 if i gotta farm raiden

[runic matrix]

HAHAHAHA

[dapper walrus]

PLSS

at least her other mats are easy to get

[runic matrix]

Will need to find a way to speedrun raiden

[shrewd crescent]

Wasn't one of them claymore buff too?

So Yelan, Itto, Sara?

[dapper walrus]

sara??

[runic matrix]

I read a normal atack buff somewhere

[shrewd crescent]

Yoimiya

[runic matrix]

But maybe im tripping

Possibly

[shrewd crescent]

No you're right it's there

[dapper walrus]

2.7 abyss will be the death of me </3 i have no claymore characters well built yet

beidou's stuck in the waiting room

[runic matrix]

Yoimiya va was invited to a jp genshin stream tho

So i got to the conclussion that she would have a rerun regardless

[dapper walrus]

if 2.8 is ludi harpastum then its klee rerun there

[runic matrix]

Oh you knwo what to do

[dapper walrus]

makes more sense as to why yoi would be in 2.7

[runic matrix]

UNLEASH THE RAZOR

[dapper walrus]

I DONT HAVE HIM

[runic matrix]

It is time

[dapper walrus]

HE NEVER COMES HOME ON STANDARD

[runic matrix]

AH HELL NAWW

[dapper walrus]

sobbing rn im ar56 and still razorless

he's the only electro (aside from yae) that i dont have 😭

[runic matrix]

I'm still monaless

[dapper walrus]

TAKE MY C1

[runic matrix]

And kokomiless

Both hate me tbh

[runic matrix]

Gladly

[dapper walrus]

pls take my mona away from me

[runic matrix]

I trade for my c1 keqing

[dapper walrus]

OH THANK GOD

keqing cons are very much appreciated

[runic matrix]

You know the funny thing is

I oppened an asia account

And got mona in like 2 singles

[dapper walrus]

bro..

[runic matrix]

I was so sad

[dapper walrus]

thats pain </3 same feeling i got when i got jean on my eu acc

[runic matrix]

That sucks so bad

That's why i'm rolling for ayato

[dapper walrus]

i hate how u get the character u want on ur alt and not the main

[runic matrix]

In the hopes that i lose 50/50 to mona

It's a coinflip that i can accept

[dapper walrus]

u get a hydro either way so,,

[runic matrix]

Yeah

Tried to go for kokomi and missed

That's also why i'm prefarming kuki

For tazer shenannigans

[dapper walrus]

that would be very pog

[subtle finch]

i dont understand why they made electro character hp scaling

[dapper walrus]

imo shouldve been er

[runic matrix]

Bc she is a 4 star keeeek

[dapper walrus]

or atk

[runic matrix]

Atq would have been just perfect

[torpid oak]

It adds more variety in scaling for units, so I’m not complaining

[dapper walrus]

the split scaling is hella confusing tho

[runic matrix]

It's like triple split

[dapper walrus]

cause u cant max out one and abandon the other

[runic matrix]

Em atq and hp

For 0 reason

[torpid oak]

Yeah, hopefully they adjust it a bit in beta

[subtle finch]

yeah idk why they slapped the yae EM treatment on her

[shrewd crescent]

I did say it would happen eventually

[torpid oak]

The EM passive seems pretty negligible unless I’m missing something tbh

[subtle finch]

also her c6 looks trash

[shrewd crescent]

Now make a def hydro

[lament cargo]

same reason she and yae have em scaling

[torpid oak]

Maybe when they make a hydro shielder

[dapper walrus]

hopefully they fix the a4

[lament cargo]

probs ends up like yae's

[shrewd crescent]

I like how Hoyoverse is gonna surprise the community with shiny "new" 5 star Xingqiu then show Kuki

[lament cargo]

it's there but you don't build for it

[runic matrix]

Didn't read cons i thought they were different in chinese

[subtle finch]

plz change the a4 from em to hp

[runic matrix]

What does it do?

[dapper walrus]

think about this

anemo shielder

[shrewd crescent]

It's Hu Tao's c6

[subtle finch]

hit that would kill her doesnt kill and buffs her EM for 15s

60s icd

[shrewd crescent]

But when she doesn't die she gets em

[runic matrix]

W-why.??

[shrewd crescent]

It's so stupid tbh

[shrewd crescent]

DeNdRo

[runic matrix]

Keeeek

[shrewd crescent]

Should have made her entire kit hp scaling tbh

[torpid oak]

Hopefully they know what they’re doing with these Electro EM characters

[runic matrix]

Dear god just buff her em scaling

[shrewd crescent]

No they don't. It's Hoyoverse

[dapper walrus]

ngl dendro is the most useless element in the game

and i think if they make it a major factor with the elements- it'll change the meta and the balance of genshin

[tawdry bone]

Triple scaling for triple the fun!

[torpid oak]

I’d rather they make her E Dmg HP scaling, that would make the split easier

[shrewd crescent]

And triple the regret

[dapper walrus]

i lit cannot see my mains functioning with dendro supps

[subtle finch]

not sure how you would be able to when we have no idea what it does

[torpid oak]

Of course it’s useless, it’s not in the game yet

[subtle finch]

^

[runic matrix]

i agree but if they wanna go with the em at least make it good

[dapper walrus]

which is why i cant see it happening

[shrewd crescent]

Dendro electro gives em bro trust

[subtle finch]

huh?

[shrewd crescent]

Hoyoverse is totally gonna give us mini sucrose as a reaction

No doubt in my mind.

[dapper walrus]

i mean- i cant see them functioning at all since rn dendro is rumored to be em based

[subtle finch]

EVERY reaction is EM based

[runic matrix]

yo pass the blunt

[torpid oak]

Dendro Electro will be Def shred based on EM

[runic matrix]

lemme take some of what u taking

[dapper walrus]

i meant scaling <///3 sorry for all the misunderstandings

[subtle finch]

EVERY reaction scales with EM

there isnt a single one that doesnt

[shrewd crescent]

Dendro gimmick is em

[dapper walrus]

bro.. yknow what nvm im making no sense of myself

[shrewd crescent]

Even though I thought that was anemo

[torpid oak]

How do you know?

[dapper walrus]

my explanation will probably complicate it more

[shrewd crescent]

Because I'm ironically following the copium of this community

Man

I'm going back to Yelan tc to lurk and wonder how they made her and kuki

[runic matrix]

understandable, have a great day

[lament cargo]

if you make a broken character then market them with a middling character and make the good character a 5* people won't notice - hoyo probably

[tawdry bone]

Kuki Q kinda sounds like Amber's

[subtle finch]

i hope it is if we mean in terms of amount of hits

cuz if it hits the same amount of times as Ambers then her dmg is solid for a healer

according to my math

[shrewd crescent]

What's the math say

[lament cargo]

how much are you getting

[shrewd crescent]

69k

[brittle radish]

What do we have so far for Kuki? Had to look for this thread a lil bit

[subtle finch]

85k solo no buffs or debuffs or anything

[idle turret]

Split scaling healer. That's p much it

[subtle finch]

let me check with kazuha

[shrewd crescent]

It depends

[orchid folio]

yeah her damage is already decent if it hits amber amount

[shrewd crescent]

Wait..what

What weapon and set

[subtle finch]

black sword r1

4 totm

[lament cargo]

Yeah that works, I'd take that

[runic matrix]

from my pov i'd say she is good but has weird scalings

[shrewd crescent]

Man

I had hope

[subtle finch]

with kazuha i get 134k

[shrewd crescent]

Why must I be poor

[lament cargo]

don't you have jade ?

[shrewd crescent]

I PULLED ON EL

[brittle radish]

@shrewd crescent @idle turret
Inch resting
Any sort of artifact set and main stats she should have so far or no?

[lament cargo]

[shrewd crescent]

I have to wait for jade rerun

[runic matrix]

tragic

[shrewd crescent]

I will get jade next time. Even if its the last thing I do

[lament cargo]

right now she looks like she wants hp/electro/crit and totm

[shrewd crescent]

Not really since I got EL for Raiden but still

[brittle radish]

I'll just demote Ayato 😔

[idle turret]

Uhhhh people are saying em weapon + hp/hp/hp but tbh we gotta wait to see how good her particle gen is

[idle turret]

For healer btw

[tawdry bone]

Now all we need is HP Bennett for Kuki nukes

[brittle radish]

Gotcha

@idle turret @lament cargo

Ty!

[runic matrix]

worth then

copium

[idle turret]

Yw :D glad to help!

[shrewd crescent]

Wait.

What if Hydro Archon is the ultimate kuki support

Next to idk c4 Yelan

Wait swap that.

[ivory shoal]

Honestly I feel like ayato works super well with kuki

[shrewd crescent]

I feel like any melee character works well with her

Her E is basically Skoll and Hati's ability from Honkai (to clarify, Skoll and Hati is a weapon that had an ability that damaged opponents that got a little too close)

Her Q is- well we still need to see tbh

[tawdry bone]

Can't wait ICD data tbh

[ivory shoal]

Honestly I have an interesting team planned

Ayato-xingqiu-kazoo-kuki

Mono sword is now viable

[shrewd crescent]

I need to think of a team with mdps Kuki

[ivory shoal]

Ultimate comfort team

[shrewd crescent]

I don't care how cope her healing will be that ninja deserves to be a mdps

[tawdry bone]

||Kuki,Barbara,Qiqi,Diona ||

[nova sierra]

does shinobu look like a good healer based off of her scaling

[ivory shoal]

Damn I need to save up for kuki starting right now

[shrewd crescent]

I'll go phys Kuki

I have Favonia and Rancour

So it should be interesting

[tawdry bone]

Bring Chongus and do superconduct main dps

[torpid oak]

Hydro Archon will be an HP buffer at C0 probably

[shrewd crescent]

With c2 I can have infinite Sc

[gaunt pivot]

guys, where she uses her weapon from the splash art

[shrewd crescent]

E

[tawdry bone]

E

[torpid oak]

Or a cracked Hp buffer at C2 if they pull a Raiden on her

[gaunt pivot]

[torpid oak]

I thought splash arts usually showed their burst?

[shrewd crescent]

True. Homa main, jade claymore and cutter mains, Hu Tao mains, Yelan mains, Kokomi mains shall rejoice

[gaunt pivot]

like just waves it around and leaves the field?

[shrewd crescent]

Yeah but the icon for e has her Urumi out and circling the figure

[shrewd crescent]

Her E?

[torpid oak]

We literally don’t know, we have no footage

[gaunt pivot]

the usage of the weapon from the splash art

[shrewd crescent]

Oh probably

[gaunt pivot]

It is her CA trust

[shrewd crescent]

She whips you and it hits twice

[gaunt pivot]

makes sense

[little charm]

not entirely sure why they put the em in there

Do they want her to trigger reactions w her E or smth like I'm so confused

[nova sierra]

ask yae

[tawdry bone]

Current copium is that it has something to do with Dendro

[little charm]

🗿

[gaunt pivot]

same reason why Yae has EM scalling dendro

[shrewd crescent]

Don't think about it. Seriously

[torpid oak]

Reading her talents, she actually probably uses it on her burst and her skill

[shrewd crescent]

Just cope that Dendro is something cool

[tawdry bone]

Her E is literally Naku weed, dendro powers confirmed

[little charm]

weed ninja

[tawdry bone]

I believe kuki was supposed to be Dendro but was changed to Electro last minute for god know what reason

[torpid oak]

Cope with this

[tawdry bone]

Otherwise I can’t even justify pairing a plant as concept with an electro unit lol

[little charm]

why is she so much like ht it's funny

[gaunt pivot]

do you think the first couple dendro characters will be absolute trash to bait people with the new element, and then they will release actual good units?

[tawdry bone]

Who knows

Probably not

[pastel brook]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-my-orb-ponder-the-orb-neco-arc-cope-cope-harder-gif-24229532

[supple snow]

There is no hp sword ryt?

[torpid oak]

I mean, Naku Weeds are Electro based plant life only found in Inazuma, so

[tawdry bone]

They will be decent but will be immediately powercreept

[little charm]

doesnt make any sense why make trash chars when u can make money off every new good char

[supple snow]

Wish dendro traveler to actually be useful

[tawdry bone]

They are doing a pretty good job keeping powercreep at bay tbh

[torpid oak]

No, that’ll just make people think Dendro is trash and it will become a new punching bag for the people that say “Electro Bad”

[little charm]

Jade cutter

[final tapir]

so, was i right in my first impressions that she looks pretty bad or

was i missing something

[tawdry bone]

Wdym

[gaunt pivot]

cause people will pull for the element anyway and might not get more dendro characters if the first ones are good, but i'm just coping cause I'm skipping everything until dendro

[torpid oak]

We can’t really tell without footage showing us how her burst/skill work

[tawdry bone]

Way too much info missing to make a judgement

[pastel brook]

because if everyone is super then nobody will be

[final tapir]

attack scaling on E, therefore will likely do no damage, burst seems to only last 3.5s with 8% hp scaling damage

[subtle finch]

We all might be missing something

[tawdry bone]

ICD unknown, Q number of hits unknown, AoE unknown

[subtle finch]

We have no idea how many times her Q hits

[gaunt pivot]

then they release a Raiden

[final tapir]

yeah, I think if she hits every quarter second with her Q, she could have some potential

[subtle finch]

We need footage before we can make any fair judgments

[torpid oak]

Why start with ruining Dendro’s reputation off the bat though?

[final tapir]

but i think that might be hoping for much

[tawdry bone]

She seems a support, sub dps at best, and her whole gig is healing, something she seems pretty good at

[subtle finch]

Her dmg looks decent enough for a healer if she hits same amount of times as amber

[tawdry bone]

So worrying about damage is pointless

[gaunt pivot]

it will start like that, Dendro MC

[subtle finch]

I am disappointed she doesn’t seem to heal enough for clam set to be worth using

[final tapir]

healers can't just heal, they need other utility too

[tawdry bone]

Coping for massive Albedo E sized AoE at C1

[tawdry bone]

Electro applier

[final tapir]

otherwise they're at the bottom of the pecking order

[final tapir]

we've got millions of those

they apply super fast too

[tawdry bone]

Raiden and fischl

Raiden 5*, fischl needs to be c6 to be consistent

[torpid oak]

Kuki also seems to be a good Tenacity holder

[tawdry bone]

Also that

[subtle finch]

I personally don’t think tenacity and healing is enough utility to justify shit damage and no other utility

So really hoping she has enough Q hits to have good damage