#Meille team building
marble spade
Yes I can! Will I be able to see this in the future so I can come back to is or it’s a one time thing only?
olive stratus
yeah It'll be archived, if u really wanna save the info feel free to screenshot this cuz I cant guarantee it wont be deleted in the future
marble spade
Okay I was just thinking that!
olive stratus
aight so
when we try to make a team right
the first thing we usually think about is whats this team for
thats the basis for everything
so u know we usually help ppl with abyss teams here in ghelp, and as u progress in the game eventually u'll do that too, but now I assume u just need ur team to do exploration correct?
marble spade
Yes I want to get to inizuma sorry if I misspelled it
olive stratus
inazuma yes
marble spade
But I’m really new
olive stratus
thats no problem!
marble spade
Okay
olive stratus
so for now, you run ayaka kokomi sayu and ganyu right?
marble spade
Yes
olive stratus
thats a great exploration team actually, cuz u have the damage from ayaka and ganyu, with healing from kokomi and sayu
they can serve u for a long time, as ayaka and ganyu are both some of the best dps in the game, and kokomi as one of the if not the best healer in game
marble spade
Okay! What would I do when I get ayato because I’m looking to wish him could he replace Sayu or I would have to make a totally different team?
olive stratus
ur totally right about that second part
because of a few reasons
so when u play ur current team, do u notice how some characters will take more on-field time than others?
marble spade
Yes i think so
olive stratus
like how with kokomi u just plant the jellyfish and she can be swapped off, but with ayaka/ganyu ur doing charged atks, and they remain on-field
marble spade
Yes and Sayu really doesn’t do anything so wouldn’t ayato help with ganyu and ayaka?
olive stratus
currently ayato is looking like hes gonna need a chunk of on-field time, which competes with ur other characters
for a main-dps when they cant get on-field time that's gonna be super inefficient for them
olive stratus
Yes and Sayu really doesn’t do anything so wouldn’t ayato help with ganyu and ay...
perfect yeah that leads me to the second reasoning
is that ayato is a hydro character
marble spade
So? Isn’t that a good thing?
olive stratus
it is yeah, we need hydro and cyro to be able to freeze
but do we need two hydro characters tho?
marble spade
Oh no
olive stratus
do u notice inconsistencies in kokomi's hydro application?
she's pretty good isnt she, ur able to keep on a pretty comfy freeze with her
marble spade
? Her attacks u mean?
olive stratus
her hydro application
so she needs to constantly apply hydro in order to keep the enemies frozen
marble spade
Like her burst or when she makes things wet?
olive stratus
right right
for sure
and do u see how that's drastically reducing ayato's value for u right?
so first he's gonna compete with ur dps characters for on-field time, and second u already have a great hydro applicator in kokomi
marble spade
Yes! He should have his own party to rule
olive stratus
exactly!
BUT
what if we switch kokomi for ayato, and keep sayu so you still have a healer
that works too doesnt it?
marble spade
We would have 3 dps fighting for screen time?
olive stratus
ah here's the interesting part
some dps characters, they dont just have one playstyle on them
the best example here would be ganyu
how do u play her now?
marble spade
What do you mean? There are different ways to play characters?
olive stratus
yes absolutely
marble spade
Oh um I don’t know?
olive stratus
I probably should clarify this first im sorry
u know the concepts of main dps, sub dps and support right
marble spade
Not really
olive stratus
okok thats fine
a good example for a main dps would be ayaka
big damage, wants to take on field time, when other characters are buffing her she becomes super strong
do u have xingqiu or beidou?
xiangling?
marble spade
I have both except xiangling
olive stratus
perfect, both xingqiu and beidou are what we call sub dps: also deals dmg, however doesnt take a ton of on-field time, and provides some utilities for the entire team
and support would be a character like kokomi, she probably wont be the main damage dealer, but can heal a bunch and provide other utilities for the team
marble spade
Okay so are all four star characters sub dps?
marble spade
Ah okay
olive stratus
right right so we got that out of the way the rest would be super ez lol
marble spade
Okay!
olive stratus
so it goes without saying a team need to have all these roles to be most efficient right
marble spade
Wait how do we determine who is support, dps, and subdps?
Like is there a specific way or no anyone could basically be any role?
olive stratus
Wait how do we determine who is support, dps, and subdps?
we look at their skill, burst and passive talents to try to find a optimal playstyle for them, and then categorize them
so for example
why is ayaka a main dps
what happends if we want to play her as sub dps or support
marble spade
Because she does a lot of damage? When alone
olive stratus
so first sub dps, if shes not on-field
she loses all of the charged atk dmg, which is a bit chunk
marble spade
Sub dps means off field? I’m taking notes btw
olive stratus
and her burst only lasts 5 seconds
so most of the time if shes not field, she does basically nothing
marble spade
Isn’t that low or bad shouldn’t it be longer or that’s okay?
olive stratus
yeah trust ur instincts meille
its bad right?
shes just gonna be idle for most of the time as a sub dps
marble spade
Yes
olive stratus
off-field and doing nothing
and she basically has no support capabilities at all
she doesnt heal or shield, and she doesnt buff ur teammates
marble spade
So because she does more damage that’s why she should be main dps instead of sub?
olive stratus
Mmmmm because if u play her as other than main dps shes loses so much dmg
therefore not optimal
marble spade
Okay what is a passive talent though?
olive stratus
oh passive is when u ascend characters, u get them at ascension 1 and 4
these things
marble spade
Oh don’t you focus on that later when I have a higher ar level?
olive stratus
check ur character screen u should see them
yeah that just comes with progression
no need to worry too much about that for now
marble spade
Okay phew
olive stratus
OKOK
just to make sure
xingqiu is a very good sub dps
do u see why?
Im not sure if u have played him a lot
marble spade
Yea because he provides a little healing and something else
marble spade
Something with swords around him right?
olive stratus
where is his largest chunk of dmg coming from?
its his burst right?
u know when u can shoot rainswords?
marble spade
Yea the swords that turn around his body right?
olive stratus
yeah exactly
and that doesnt have to be triggered by him tho right?
ur ayaka can trigger it too, kokomi can, any other character can
marble spade
Yes he get most of his damage there and xialing get it’s from her spiny tornado thing right that’s why she would be good sub?
olive stratus
which means he doesnt need to be on field all the time to dish most of his dmg
marble spade
Yes each character has their own things
olive stratus
booom a sub dps right there
marble spade
Okay so a sub dps is a character that just uses their burst and waits for it to recharge and then the dps comes out right?
marble spade
Okay okay that’s makes sense then what’s the difference between the sub and the support?
olive stratus
the more accurate definition is a dps character that doesnt need to be on-field to do most of their dmg
supports arent usually dmg dealers
they serve to buff ur other dps characters and provide survival utilities
marble spade
Okay are there different types of teams I can build like how many like I know there is a freeze, electric, and burn are there any more?
olive stratus
yeah yeah there're more
btw now we got the different characters roles down, u may wanna backread and see what do I mean by ganyu can be played in different ways
marble spade
I think I play her as a dps and support because I use her for the freeze globe action
Most of the time I use Kokomi and Ayaka
olive stratus
Okay are there different types of teams I can build like how many like I know th...
u can certainly do that, I wouldn't do it for now just because ur character pool is quite thin, as u play more and u get more characters, that can start to become more fun
marble spade
Can your party do more than one elemental thing though like freeze and electric? Or melt
olive stratus
yes
marble spade
Because with ayato I want to do melt, elctorc and freeze would that be possible?
olive stratus
thats touching more advanced knowledge tho, I would ask that later when u get to higher ar
marble spade
Okay!
olive stratus
I really just wanna get ur current team fully explained XD, so u can reference it for ALL of ur future team building
so so
marble spade
Okay the only thing I don’t understand with my main team is why should I have Sayu and not someone else
Because honestly I don’t really use her
olive stratus
u can use any character on that slot now
why we recommend sayu is because the Viridescent Venerer set
marble spade
What is that?
marble spade
What are artifacts? Do I focus on them now?
olive stratus
nope
marble spade
Oh ok
olive stratus
just use what u got, and focus on character lvls and talents for now
u only need to start worrying about artifacts after ar45
marble spade
Can I use Thoma then or someone that is electric?
olive stratus
when u reach that feel free to come ask again
olive stratus
Can I use Thoma then or someone that is electric?
for sure yeah up to u
either way is fine
so from a team building perspective
marble spade
Okay what weapon would be good for him then?
olive stratus
u have a main dps, a sub dps and a support right
u can put in an additional sub dps for more dmg, or another support for more comfort
again up to u
marble spade
Yes Ayaka as main Kokomi and ganyu as sub and thoma as support?
olive stratus
Okay what weapon would be good for him then?
any weapon with er sub stat cuz he is quite energy hungry
marble spade
Who usually does more damage to villains electro characters or pyro or they are equal?
olive stratus
we check resistances for that
find out what they're weak against, then adjust ur team accordingly
marble spade
Okay
marble spade
Yea I think so! I’m so sorry I wasted so much of your time 😞
marble spade
Thank you for helping me though!
marble spade
I have one more thing that is off topic though
olive stratus
if thats ok
marble spade
Yea that’s fine I want to get better!
olive stratus
I have one more thing that is off topic though
sure yeah go ahead
marble spade
Do I need to be a specific level to do the upcoming update event thing that mihoyo is advertising?
olive stratus
my question is: why is kokomi usually a support not sub dps or main dps
olive stratus
Do I need to be a specific level to do the upcoming update event thing that miho...
yeah I think so unfortunately
marble spade
What level so I can know?
olive stratus
I think they put it under the advertisement
marble spade
my question is: why is kokomi usually a support not sub dps or main dps
Isn’t because people only see her for her wonderful healing properties?
olive stratus
What level so I can know?
lemme check official twitter hold on
marble spade
Okay thank you so much!
marble spade
Dang i don’t think I’ll be able to make it to ar 30
olive stratus
marble spade
One more question and I think I have everyone
Everything
Can you trust guides online or there are specific guides I should follow?
marble spade
Okay thank you so much!! You’ve been wonderful!
olive stratus
however it is quite in-depth, for easier build suggestions I would also recommend zyox's youtube channel
olive stratus
Okay thank you so much!! You’ve been wonderful!
marble spade
Thank you!! Now I can enjoy the game a little better!