#Yae TC
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hmm would be difficult to get energy up tho with just yae and sara.
We don’t know Yae’s particle Gen though
and you're running 1 80 cost 1 90 cost characters, the energy might be scuff
sara is extremely clunky for particle gen
How’s Yae’s kit looking so far?

Predicting now Yae will be able to Gen energy without Raiden
Man at this point Mono electro might be a thing. Yae Raiden Fishl Sara /j
Yae, Sara, Beidou, Raiden
Mega Mommy Mono comp(MMM)
Lotta positives. Even more unknowns
Foxy
SInce OL has a 1s cd per target even if all 3 totems have separate icd you'd get only 1 OL proc per enemy every 3s and spacing them so that you get 2 is still only 10 OLs per rot realistically and IÄm not even sure if they have separate icd. She doesn't look like a reaction engine to me
yes with c1 
oh yea then
Or hell, even Sara Raiden Kokomi Yae
Sara on her own without Raiden is scuffed
Will Yae have quadratic scaling for E on Venti Q like Ganyu Q does? Since it has small AOE?
I said kit, I meant kit
Lmao you must not have c6
looks like hakushin ring could be good low spender option
99% yes
i think he meant energy wise
OL is .5s cd according to KQM, but it will only do damage to the enemy it triggered on
she easily gives 100% uptime on the passive
And while she has compensation to hybrid into her personal dmg its complicated where the ideal compromise is
So far, how on field is Yae? Selfish dps, offield dps, syb dps like xiangling ect? Im curious what more experienced theorycrafters think
off field dps
Quickswap offfield
she’s not able to reliably generate energy without that annoying charge shot which wastes time
How is Yae’s kit looking so far? Is she a balanced main dps, is she a sub dps, enlighten me theorycrafters.
Coolio bc Raiden hogs the spotlight enough lol
Her totems don’t proc at spectate intervals?
so far all we know is she looks like a subdps
Balanced 
Lmaooo I asked the same thing two messages above you perfect timing
Pretty good dmg for off field dps i think.
Yup
Most of my questions are about her particle gen and unit reliance
So…. She isn’t a main dps? That’s depressing
Her buff makes up for the literal second it takes to perform
0.5s, ok, so getting like 10 procs form E seems more realsitic all in all fi they have separate icd, which we don't know yet.
That's like, your opinion man
not really, means I can use her with raiden which is a win to me 
do you guys want to make every character main dps or sth 
That doesn’t mean you can’t play her as one
I don’t think she is gonna be reliant on anyone really
YEP
so far what seems to be a really viable set for her?
sara can't battery another character reliably, forget it
yies
I- obviously it’s an opinion?
She'll probably be very similar to raiden I assume. Not exactly built for dps, but can absolutely shred enemies of need be
Im just wondering about rotations bc if you do e-e-e-burst and swap out you lose out on the totem dmg, if you wait for the totems to recharge you lose out on time spent on other characters. Thats my dilemma tbh
You’re assuming Yae needs to be batteried
Play her as one anyway like me
Why not 
seems a very reasonable assumption
Raiden is built for dps tho
Wouldn't she be easily replaceable the next time we get an electro dps if she was main dps? 
so are there any alternatives to EoSF yae?
So I can see the pretty animations
are tcers working on maths
Thoma MDPS 9*d floor 12 so
If Raiden can somehow be considred anything but a subdps at best then Yae can be a maindps
are we thinking Yae is a typical Crit Elemental % dps or anyone think stacking EM is viable?
Yeah i think Yae and Raiden have the similar amount of field time needed as subdpses. Dpends tho if u explode Es immediately
Good point
So far, is she actually the dmg ceiling for electro bc thats what im curious about
A character as pretty as Yae? Yes 
They are as desynced as their casts are desynced, but timing it so that ticks don't overlap for reaction trigger icds might be tricky so I wouldn't want to rely on it too much at face value. But how much that matters int he first place depend son fi they have a separate icd or not

I really hope she can be run without needing a Raiden or fishcl. I don't want the 2nd coming of beidou
Specific reaction comps may want her with more EM
Subjectively reasonable for you maybe
atk sands > em sands if electro iirc
POGGERS yae has 3 charges actually 
But you get my point right ._.
In perfect world, I'm currently having 1 lvl 2 proc and 12 lvl 3 procs
My thought For Yae raiden rotation is Yae EEE> Raiden E> Kazuha EQ> Bennett EQ> Yae Q>Raiden Q
I mean, It looks like it? but at the same time it isnt bc her ult deals the 2000% dmg in 3 charges so it isnt concentraded in one
Yes just really bad example
let's just say that for most people it would be reasonable looking at how the entire genshin roster works
@south ember what do you think
Yeah agreed, I am terrible at analogies
How is yae beidou venti xingqiu team looking
Noblesse plus emblem might work
Theres no point of beidou on an skill based dps
nob + tf/glad/shim sounds better
i hope yae likes 2pc tf cuz i have 2 good pieces
u would rather want to use a battery like fischl
Aaah so its more like Ayaka than Raiden. Dmg over time instead of damage per screenshot
Being skill based doesn’t mean you cant play her on field
I don’t think you get all of Yae’s E procs
venti is there but not sure if that would be enough for battery
Yae would need to be a godly battery
Why not 2 Shimenawa 2TF
Two things people don’t realize:
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Totems usually generate particles over time and are usually coded per individual character (the way ZL and albedo work for example are totally different)
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She has three of them
True, was thinking of the ER cost
True
Have we seen her particles at all?
most of those totem particles won't even go to yae
It can be shared
it's 2000% total instantly, but split to 4 damages
No
No particles yet noir
How would you improve it
E dash might generate some aswell
Not yet
So by the time the totems refresh, she can cast her burst. Smart, didn’t think of that
Or maybe it can be zl like particle Gen but a third of it
Yes they will 😂
Just hoping yae doesn't need TF that domain is not fun with its 4 something waves of enemies
idp on if Totems snapshot but if they do its neat. Would still Raiden E before Yae EEE though
yeah, the dmg is spread in skill dmg-totem one-totem two-totem 3. Its not a nuke but its still a very high dmg. I think that raiden does more concentrated dmg tho
and she seems good with raiden who has fischl level of energy regen + electro reso
this is very huge copium
I know this
"Can Yae self battery" this is the question I need answered. She has 22 seconds to get her energy
Why
yae doesn’t need riaden right? which characters can i replace raiden with as a battery?
No clue depending on any changes to her Ult CD I think there can be changes
It’s not though
Or battery with some favonious only
no particle footage yet can't tell
So now we have to ask the leakers whether she snap or not then 
i think it won't coz of her BiS weapon stacks
What is happening here that yae needs a SECOND thread
Everything I said was fact. Everything you said was an assumption
Fischl beidou I guess
From the weapon
Shes probably not
tbh im not really sure why her Q is 90 cost
Oh some is fighting

no lmao you're assuming a very low chance scenario
her E could resnap if another one is cats for all we know, but its a reasonable concern, yes
Beidou isn't a battery
Becuz mhy suddenly hates 80 burst cost and lower
If the totem snapshot they wouldn't get the buff from Bennett and kazuha
are yae and klee good in the same team?
Lmao what a projection
I see
even with good particle generation it looks very hard to maintain a 90 cost burst herself
Honestly that might be good. I dont want her to be like Eula in which you miss and you’re screwed. Specially looking at the mobs that are gonna appear in abyss. Although that burst cost worries me. Bc whars the point of a big burst if you can only cast it once in a blue moon
still too early to tell, and overload sux
oh. that can work, too kinda like how oz resnaps
If she is dynamic her dmg potential outside of straight up nuking wouldn't be great in a Raiden comp.
oh alright sorry
What’s low chance about his scenario?
Raiden c6 selling time
not the flops reacting with the ugly skull
resinwise I think it's better to farm Emblem
since everyone wants emblem
So im guessing I should wait on farming an artifact set until the smart people figure more out and rather focus on talent books and stuff for now, right? 
if raiden is a subdps then yeah she prob wont get majority of the particles
Yae 100 burst cost energy 
says 90 cost character won't need a battery and acts like the other is assuming. Also mhy putting an energy refund on c1 is useless ig if she can even battery herself
What scenario? Yae not needing energy?
If you run her with Raiden at c0 not only are you keeping Raiden’s burst cost but Yae. Not that it means much bc Raiden can battery herself decently, but its still on my mind
2000% nuke
Yes, that was what I was thinking. Her totems also glow up if another one is placed within range for the level mechanic so that may or may not be an indicator of that
Totem particles going to Yae or somryhing
He has his mind made up about how things are and nothing can possibly change because he must be absolutely right because that’s the way he thinks
Bruh I swear the revenues khy makes from this ugly 2.4 banner setup is gonna push them to go for raiden+yae in 2.5 alongside kazoo
prolly not coz klee has short range and overload yeets enemies
Let’s not frame other peoples arguments like this it’s unnecessarily antagonistic
this seems like a bit personal for a tc chat
Well yae has these two things that benefit her from eula. 1st is that her burst looks that has an autoaim based on the video, so she doesn't miss? Second is that u can run EoSf+electro battery and since theres also electro resonance, u shouldnt rlly struggle a lot with the er
My Dreams are shattered 
yea that's the concern, but if her burst does snapshot how would the rotation be then
That's true. Non c1 yaes can't be expected to not need Raiden or fishcl
This started with me saying it's a reasonable assumption, then you went on a tangent to say that what you say is a fact somehow, when we have countless examples of high energy cost characters needing a battery
Tell that to mihoyo that keeps giving me shimezawa’s. Goddamit mihoyo I dont use anyone with shimezawa’s….
Y'all talking about yae and teamcomps and energy issues meanwhile I'm sitting here panicking my ass off cause I don't have a freaking electro goblet
just use 2SR + 2 NO
you already twisted the argument a few times so I'm just gonna leave it at this, you do you
Just run solo Yae with 250 ER
bro in the early leaks it said that she wanted shimenawas i went ahead and farmed a whole set now im going to cry
Two things people don’t realize:
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Totems usually generate particles over time and are usually coded per individual character (the way ZL and albedo work for example are totally different)
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She has three of them
Are literally two facts lol
How much she needs to be batteried is gonna be a bit build dependant me thinks
I wonder whats the range of the tokens. Like. How much distance apart can you place them
ok since im gonna farm for yae I can farm for melt ganyu too in the process thats nice
my newly pulled hu tao now has a 200 CV full shime and my raiden still doenst have a good full emblem set 😭 😭 😭
Not sure as of right now tbh, particularly when you also want to Q with Buffs
They could easily share one particle icd
That’s literally what I said lmao
Could
Isn't this a pointless argument since we DON'T KNOW???
Bruh that’s what I’m saying
Oh I meant missing as in the boss decides to dash. Looking at you mangu kengi. Also thanks for the er remidner
Pretty much
Idk why something so simple got hostile 
I can't see the reason running 4 Emblem, care to explain? 
yea, my hope is that her E doesn't snapshot now, 
Because why not
Lord only knows lmao
i think you can tell if they are "near" when thry have the wispy line connected to the othet totem
so let’s not cross out either scenario
Just assume the worst
Let me look at the dmg potential for that
Bad thing to do
so the artifact options are reduced only to:
4 pc Eosf
2pc shime/glad + 2pc thunder
2pc thunder/shime + 2pc Eosf right?
People assumed the worst with Raiden and Kaz and we know where that ended up
Me looking for a pyro goblet, 2x attack sands and mihoyo giving me shimezawa’s HEALING BONUS CIRCLET.
probably no 4pc eosf
Or be aware of the fact that it can go either way
Sure. We can have discussions like "IF particle gen has absolute icd, THEN what builds/teams work?" and "IF particle gen has individual totem icd, THEN what builds/teams work?"
as soon as that weapon dropped i ran here
or she'll get a new set. i think mhy will have a 5 star gambler's since yae is elem skill focused but i could be coping
That's the advantage of assuming the worst. From then it can only get better
idc pulling that catalyst just for lisa
shenhe too like even if shes not broken ppl expected trash and shes decent
Aah bc I was wondering whats stopping someone from just dumping the three totems on the extremes of the arena. Ill be curious to try that out
yae elem skill multipliers arent that great
Ngl her weapon don’t seem that good at least as a generalist a catalyst..how many catalyst users are E focused? 
Let's just give it a few days to learn more. There may even be an artifact set or something coming out 
Sounds like cope doomposting
Yep, “ifs” are important in pre TC
How niche is this?
Lisa is about to nuke
klee? dps sucrose?
if 2.5beta is out and still no leaks about new artifact does that mean there isn't a new artifact?
Klee can make good usage of it
None of those characters are E focused
Klee? Ning can utilize up to 2 stacks i guess
She's not really niche. She's pretty generally useful I think
Ning,Lisa,Klee,suc 
Doesn't actually look too shabby but practically turns her into a nuke bot for the most part
Not E focused 
why is eosf bad for yae?
who said that
4TF possibly for reaction damage
even just for3 herself it doesn't help her burst
Tbf we dont know everything yet, take the 4* weapon for sxample: we know nothing about it yet
She does a lot of skill damfae as well
which is ab huge amount of dmg
Lisa has a 900% atk scaling hold E idk what you're talking about not E focused
We don’t know if it is or isn’t
ah true
seen alot of people say its not worth running on her tbh
Dmg on E is huge to not boost
how many E proc will she be doing
Nah fam
it has almost the same dmg value as a fischl oz in the same rotation. i think it's pretty good
I can still cope
Doesn’t matter it’s a cdmg stick with an elemental % and e damage% passive
without raiden it would be impossible to battery her that much ?
hope they change her burst to elem. skill dmg
So my lost prayers to the sacred winds will not be useless for long they are quite similar
is 2pc decent or no?
Why?
any 5 star is probably decent on yae
No. Better get ER on subs rather than 2pc
she could battery herself if each of her totems have independent particle gen icd
For her weapon?
Ye dw im just throwing ideas into the void, im not that great at theorycrafting haha. Leaving it to the experts
I doubt that
How is Yae looking as a DPS as of now?
yeah, have to wait and see
Also is her E actually more MV than ult? Everyone seem t be assuming E damage is higher priority than Q 
Electro ceiling babyyyyyyyy
gud
nah the passive requires her to stay on field for a long time, which she doesnt
We made a new channel because threads have member limits
Do we know how much particles Yae's E generates yet?
So, how good does skyward atlas seem on Yae? I have a spare one that has no owner atm. Well its Ningguang’s but she can use anything else I have too many catalysts
proud thread og
She needs a lot of energy for her burst and we don't know at all what she generates but at the very minimum she'll need electro resonance with an electro that generates a siginificant amount
ik ur playing but some ppl will legit take this seriously
So do we evacuate to the new channel or stay on thread?
Does it seem her totem won't snapshot, given how her signature weapon passive work
we can cope that it resnaps
thundershooter yae viable?
What about electro resonance and electro charge?
Frames say E is 1s, so EEE would take 3s, init cast is 1s after cast so:
1 level 1
1 Level 2
6-7 level 3 Procs probably
sounds like a good spot for raiden, no?
hmmm alright
probably
Is there a spreadsheet comparison between lost prayer and Kagura?
does yaes signature weapon look worthwhile to pull for? or does a high refinement widsith have enough power behind it to justify just using it on her
Under those assumptions and assuming her turret procs are still covered by Kaz and NO
She basically does similar dmg to C6 Fischl in RaiFish, but with more AoE and a big nuke, but also with 4s longer rotations
Is it possible to use skyward Atlas for yae?
I have the same question lol
yae raiden sara lisa
Ohh my bad
Yae is TTDS slave /s
Yes
how good it is to be determined, but its fully functional for her
Yae ttds for beidou
so same dmg but extended rotation, that doesn't sound good
Random question about that weapon since I’ve never used it: does the buff scale with level up ir just refinement? Is it recommended to lvl up to 90 or do people just use it at lvl 1?
why not
So what is the frequency of her turret atks
imo the weapon is kinda niche since the passive only boosts elemental skill which not a lot of catalysts rely with. it is good but not as universal imo
Leave it level 1 unless barb or kokomi
Oki thx.
Thx a lot!
For all totems?
all Procs combined as per the rotation suggested, yeah
not a theoretical maximum
whats yae's scaling on her burst? when she has all totems on field again?
What's the ICD of a single totem?
1940% ATK at T9
They last for 14 seconds. Couldn't they hit more than6-7 times
2054 at t10
3s. Theoretically they can hit 15 times in total
Uhm may I ask how her A2 work? The 0.15% one
Does it work like Raiden resovle stacks?
Each totem has it's own 3 second cooldown righ
Is the lost prayers good for yae?
yes
For a f2p yae, what would be the scaling?
Byeee
Damage as in DPR or dps?
likely conversion to dmg% so 100 EM = 15% E dmg
lp requires field time so prob not but its always a good stat stick cata
DPR
Very solid
Oh damn that’s not ideal
for her burst too
shit that doesn't sound good
What about a YaeFish comp?
bye guys
soz what does DPR mean?
dmg per rotation
Damage per rotation
oooh thanks
Is EM Yae still possible :c
Raiden Yae doomium i hear ? 
OK thank you
Aigh so I’m thinking for rotation tell me if this is cope or not: Rai E Yae 3E Benny EQ Kaz EQ Raiden Ult Yae Q
From what I'm seeing. Her nuke is pretty scary but leveraging her E dmg is difficult in a Raiden comp.
GUYS SOLAR PEARL FOR YAE?
EM sands yae or just average atk
EM yae 
I wonder if Yae Fish XQ and sucrose could be good. Sucrose sharing EM is at least useful for Yae
Help me out seems weird in my head not sure if it’s functional
maybe they buff her EM scaling
m:
Widsith Yae probably allows for a more frontloaded version of raifish
Nah the EM scalling is just a small bonus just like hp for Zhongli's dmg
R5 or R1?
R1 for now
But then u could just run c6 sara
However i have an r5 widsth so im wondering which is better
hmmm Raiden ult before Yae ult
Yae Q doesn't get buffed like that I'm afraid
Sadge, so just a bonus stat if ever I have extra rolls, gotcha (and maybe to have suc synergy?)
R5 widsith for yae looking good if she snapshots
Yea next rotation would be properly set up
Or Yae Fish Bennet Kazuha for overloads
shit I knew something was sus
Thoughts on kagura’s verity vs solar pearl?
Yae Q doesnt get buffed?
that rotation
Ohh
skyward atlas or memory of dust good on yae??
how so
i think you should put the totems first so that every skill cast starts to reduce the CD, then do Kaz EQ first so he'll swirl electro sincr benny imbues you with pyro and then maybe Q to Yae first so that she'll get energy from raiden and get further CD reduction
All I want are a few decent c0 Yae comps and I will be satisfied with her
In that particular rotation Kazuha and Bennett Buffs expire before you get to Yae for her Q
Raiden, Yae, Kazuha should be my staple, then the last one for c6 fischl for electro shenanigans 
ohh
Remember the 2.0?
That will need to be tested cuz Sucrose EM transfer is a percentage value and Yae's bonus scaling is also a percentage value in such a case Sucrose's transferred EM might not be factored in
When we were all preparing Beidous
Oh yikes, thanks!
Any thoughts on her CA multiplier for a main dps
@narrow delta counting yae frames, and counting individual totem procs too for accuracy
Now we are preparing Raidens.
Wouldn't it before funny if Raiden's E didn't trigger Yae's passive?
Is yae 3e rai e kaz eq elegy Sara q yae q rai q a good rotation?
free cata info
New catalyst pog
GG new cata
in what way will a skill hit not trigger something that require skill hit
whos that good with
yae catalyst? 
for yae ig
THAT WEAPON MIGHT BE NUTS
If yae miko makes particles in elemental skill
Wait Raikh I know this is super copium but what about switching out of Raidens Ult to allow Yae to get the buff duration @south ember
wait really
Electro resonance might be insane
If we can get 150 er and use emblem set we can do some crazy shit guys
What 💀
Pretty tight but i might be able to use this on mona
Kokomi weapon. Bedge
First banner confirmed
yae first banner
also, Yae ult is a giant fox
That might just be one of the worst event weapons ever
Is the new free four star weapon any good for yae?
yeah looks like actual garbage
Nah
Yuh
Is that R5 or just R1
kinda
it shows

The dmg suck but u dont need er sand if u use that wep
Its a plausible one at the very least. Wouldn't generate too much E dmg though and make her largely reliant on her Q.
Team is also compeltely w/o a healer/shielder so thats a bold setup
New catalyst is underwhelming
you can clearly see it
Guys if we can use 3 charges from yae and the 48 er is independent of each other we can use it for emblem set
Oh I didn't read the rest of the tweet
ever heard of cinabbar spindle without Albedo on the account
is the widsith good for yae?
Hmmm might be decent for Yae's burst if you use her without Raiden but will have reduced dmg compared to withsdh
Best f2p
I will be archiving this channel in the next few minutes say your goodbyes and prayers
She does have a 90 burst so it will help but wouldn't something like widsith
I wonder if it stacks
alright thank you
Can I ask for what reason?
Just came backw from watching the turret leak
That's what I'm talking about
also move to #928312186185609216 e
Man, tier 3 looks fucking nuts
Oh ok
Would have to see the timings. Switching out halfways is sus but if you only skip a little bit it mgiht be okay
Giving 48% ER for yae at R5 would be kinda insane for a burst dps yae with emblem set, assuming the ER from the catalyst applies for emblem burst damage
If it stacks that would be crazy
because we have a channel now and thread limit was reached
R5 should give like 48 ER
Aight got you
new free event weapon better for yae or skyward atlas???
You can silence me but you cat silence the trut-
Does anyone else read yae’s ult as being able to proc the Sakura lightning up to thrice on the same enemy?
But it has a bit of piling on issues since Yae Q after Raiden emans less Resolve on Raiden for the first rot
Free weapon isn't bad btw. Just not a yae weapon imo
isnt it aoe?
Ya but would that bonus ER count for the emblem set
If it stacks it different story
If it’s a given stat and not an internal stat (ie it shows up in the details page when it procs) then yes
Do you get another dmg instane per proc or are they all the same dmg instance is what I’m speculating
If it stacks that weapon might be crazy good for burst dps mona/yae
I see, I was thinking abt yae raiden Bennett kazuha however my Bennett is already used in another comp so I’m trying to come up with anything
is emblem then looking good for yae??
I just wanna know it it stacks
For burst dps maybe
what's yae's crit rate ascenion %
but is the weapon's stack independent? and doesnt have a cooldown?
We don't know
at talent 10 and 3 totems it's basically 2000% aoe damage
24.2 crit chance
That means each one is a separate dmg instance
yeah, each proc is 500% iirc
#928312186185609216 will archive this thread in 2 mins we have a channel now
That’s insane if it’s separate
Yae might be my first double crown at this rate
That’s not confirmed though
is the inazuma craftable good on yae?
That’s how I read it
Any idea if her EM scaling is worth yet