Yae TC

[south ember]

Yeah, sounds like its a conversion into dmg%

[narrow delta]

Zhongli has godly cons?

[wintry rover]

Post Raiden

[void thistle]

sounds like yae would prefer an EM catalyst then

[south ember]

so an EM Main Stat gives around 28% dmg, but it will most likely be additive with other dmg% sources

[wintry rover]

POST RAIDEN

[wintry rover]

Can never go wrong with crit

[south ember]

so its 60% of a dmg% Goblet

[topaz raft]

Is the A1 reducing E cooldown actually confirmed? Wasn't that from a different leaker?

[void thistle]

true, but EM would be ez buff

especially if you run overload yae

[wintry rover]

Never know

[void thistle]

join the yae 4TF cult

wtf

there

[south ember]

If Yae excels at being a reaction trigger EM would definitely be very efficient

[topaz raft]

I find it weird both her A1 and her C2 reducing cd

[south ember]

but gotta see how good she really is in that capacity

[void thistle]

i mean they wouldnt give EM scaling for no reason

right?

[south ember]

especially with regards to energy since you dont get Electro being your trigger in Teams with more than 1 Electro

[void thistle]

i cant wait for beta

so i can get theorycrafting

atk vs em sands

[polar heron]

the em scaling is literally just like mona convert where it helps but you may or may not build it, only difference is yae's is bigger

[void thistle]

[topaz raft]

I'm still expecting her to be a on field carry that wants you to put up a Pyro infused Venti Q and autos/charges the enemy till dead

[south ember]

They've been doing janky stuff before, might simply be experimental

[void thistle]

im expecting her to find her greatest potential in yae-xiangling-bennett-4VV

assuming 4TF EM sands

[topaz raft]

Same thing

[narrow delta]

National again

[topaz raft]

The only difference is me saying Venti cause otherwise OL will knock people away from XL Q

[narrow delta]

[void thistle]

glad to hear im not the only one then

[cyan tundra]

OL raiden, but with yae

[void thistle]

true

[cyan tundra]

much like OL raiden is OL lisa but with raiden

[void thistle]

yeah

i mean... both are electro catalysts with EM in kit

what could go wrong

[polar heron]

It's an addiction sorry

[cyan tundra]

sac sword kazuha also has some mad CC skills

and if you have the field time to spare, does a ton of damage

[void thistle]

might have to save for venti rerun after pulling yae then

[cold cairn]

OL yae will def be better than OL Raiden

[void thistle]

[cold cairn]

Assuming her ICD isn’t totally fucked

[south ember]

Tbh if I wanted an OL driver I'd use Kazuha with C6 Bennett. Dedicated Electro OL Carry doesn't sound very strong

[cyan tundra]

probably
but we still need ICD and CDs

[narrow delta]

I feel like Yae is built for EC

Ol is niche at best

[cyan tundra]

It's not an OL driver
you essentially take the pure pyro core, and slot on a AOE electro turret to act as an albedo that also CCs + benefits from VV

[topaz raft]

Why not just Bennett carry? Are Kazuhas autos better?

[cyan tundra]

because xianling kaz bennett pure pyro is just sort of missing a character

[upbeat burrow]

kazuha gets to trigger OL with pyro infused autos

which scales off his fat EM

[hollow badge]

because of his em

[topaz raft]

Ah ok

[cyan tundra]

no
because you maintain pyro aura

[topaz raft]

Makes sense

[south ember]

Yeah, but if you rely on OL for your damage there are very notable restrictions on that which basically will never allow that to scale well or be great DPS potential

[ancient locust]

[polar heron]

Her mono electro seem's nice too honestly ignore her Ascend passive

[upbeat burrow]

ohhh wait

this is OL driver

not OL dps kaz

[south ember]

You get Swirls and OLs on Kaz EM steroids, cna also opt for TF Kaz and spam E like a maniac

[ancient locust]

if anything you remove xiangling

[polar heron]

honestly tho more like a whale idea with c4

[south ember]

while driving Beidou and Fischl aswell

[topaz raft]

Yae Fischl kazuha Bennett c6, kazuha driver?

[narrow delta]

[cyan tundra]

Overloads in that team still do 20k+ procs

[polar heron]

bei and fischl snap shotting electro yum

[topaz raft]

Electro aura with Fischl + yae, kazuha OL ftw?

[south ember]

Yeah, but how many do you get?

[upbeat burrow]

kaz OL works i played the comp for a while

[south ember]

200k dmg is yikes

[upbeat burrow]

u get like 7-9

[grizzled plaza]

There are possibilities of yae’s kit scaling fully off of em and not atk right?

[cyan tundra]

I've been getting around 21-23 per rotation

in 3 enemy aoe

[south ember]

So its not a 20s rotation. How long is it?

[upbeat burrow]

this is 23 across 3 targets yh

[cyan tundra]

it's a 21s rotation

[upbeat burrow]

so like 8 per target

[cyan tundra]

getting 8 per target

[south ember]

8 per target is 160k

thats like pre-buff Albedo

[cyan tundra]

basically prebuff albedo that also buffs your xianling and kaz damage

[south ember]

Assumign we're talking Raiden

[cyan tundra]

yes

[south ember]

Yae doesnt necessarily buff anyone

and Raiden does way more than 200k damage if you just build dmg on her

[ancient locust]

xianglings energy in double pyro isn't gonna allow a 20s rotation regardless

[cyan tundra]

yae doesn't buff anyone, but at the same time, you're actually using her kit for her intended purpose
so her turrets should hopefully do non zero damage

[south ember]

so its really jsut a very budget build

[cold cairn]

Soon as I get a copy of Yae kazoo is next

[cyan tundra]

unlike raiden E that does like 900 damage procs

[south ember]

If you actually go to 20k OL Procs

there are simply not enough Stats left to scale MVs properly

[cyan tundra]

this isn't a "raiden team"
this is a pure pyro team that runs raiden because there's nothing better in that slot atm

[south ember]

Yeah but the Team is still better if you build Raiden properly

it not being Raiden centric doesnt mean it justifies using a bad build

[narrow delta]

10k mv per hit but less range than zhongli E

💀

[south ember]

its budget and thats it

[cyan tundra]

you're still doing 25k + xianling hits as well as the timing on raiden E allowing kaz to double swirl electro + pyro

doing his own OL procs

[south ember]

Yeah but nothing stops your from building ATK and Crit on Raiden there

[narrow delta]

I think this needs sheeting

[south ember]

I'm not arguing against the setup

[narrow delta]

[south ember]

I'm arguing against Raiden as an OL Bot

[ancient locust]

i doubt that team is getting anywhere near 50k dps

and theres no nuke

[cyan tundra]

that fact that the rotation allows for only the opener of raiden ult to fall in bennett ult kinda does

[south ember]

how that?

[cyan tundra]

the rotation is raiden E>bennett EQ>kaz hold E tap E>xianling QE>kaz Q hold E>raiden Q N2E N2C

[south ember]

What exactly is the purpose of spamming Kaz over going in with Raiden first?

and where Kaz Q

[cyan tundra]

forgot to type it in

[ancient locust]

cant have 2 hold e's that close together

[cyan tundra]

because bennett fueled kaz with double swirl does a ton of damage

[ancient locust]

also it just sounds like a worse pure pyro and raiden hyper

[narrow delta]

It’s like the rotation is extended to fit in ol

[cyan tundra]

sac sword resetting so you end with tap E on #1

[south ember]

Not so much you'd skip on a buffed up Raiden for it

Could easily go Raiden E Bennett EQ Kaz EQ XL EQ Raiden Q Kaz E

and have most of Raiden's uptime covered

Could also Raiden E Kaz Q Bennett EQ Kaz E XL EQ Raiden Q and transfer the OL Procs to Ben and XL

I have actually played that comp early, so I've been tinkering with the rotation

Only real concern was VV uptime for Raiden since swirling Electro after XL is out is tricky

[narrow delta]

I’ve got doubts that most enemies won’t get knocked back home from ol and cause more xl hits to miss

Is xl rlly necessary

[cyan tundra]

We don't have a better AOE pyro turret

And she's still cracked

[polar heron]

with recent abyss's it's not as huge as a deal before but it's really frustrating since it still moves them a bit

[south ember]

I certainly prefer Kaz having the OLs and run double Electro or a Hydro in that slot. But the comp works and I didn't have any crippling fucntionality issues with it

Think my main issue really is Electro VV uptime and not getting the OLs where they ideally are efficiency wise

but in general XL is a great Sub DPS for Raiden comps

[high mortar]

Venti

[south ember]

Having Kaz and Venti and one Pyro and one Electro is really funny

Anemo OL reactor

[narrow delta]

But it works

[south ember]

Its great, I'd run Rai/Kaz/Venti/Ben more often

[narrow delta]

Wat even is this emote

[south ember]

if Venti actually worked

[indigo crow]

Will Yae and Raiden still work together?

[pale smelt]

any thoughts on yae?

[south ember]

w/o numbers and the full kit we can't say anything

[pale smelt]

tema comp wise i mean

[inner mesa]

well it's hard to say without her cooldowns

[south ember]

We dont know how exactly she works and how her field time requirements are, so cant do Teams, only speculate

[pale smelt]

i know pple thining of pokemon with yae

[south ember]

At face value she seems like turret based Sub DPS

so she might fit in any Fishcl/Lisa/Beidou slot

but we need detials for confirmation

[torpid berry]

Could you go no reactions with raiden, Sara c6, and yae with kazuh

[indigo crow]

I think that thing next to the boss could be Yae’s fox form or her skill thingy

[pale smelt]

if her a1 is true, QS would be her team comp style

[inner mesa]

the beta should be starting tmr

[indigo crow]

what does QS mean

[south ember]

Theoretically possible, practically you have no healer/shielder

[inner mesa]

so we should get numbers soon after

[inner mesa]

quickswap

[indigo crow]

ohh

[pale smelt]

unga bunga spam abilities team

[inner mesa]

don't need a healer or shielder is you're abusing i frames

[south ember]

Tell that 8k PMA when you have to sit on Raiden for 7-9s unprotected

[inner mesa]

[polar heron]

based dashing main

until wolves say fuck you

[south ember]

getitng pummeled around is one thing

but not being able to deal with even chip dmg is a bit sus

[inner mesa]

their collision hitboxes cause me physical pain

[polar heron]

'haha! I avoided you with magical bullshit stats-wait--'

bleed

wtf

[inner mesa]

i didn't realize that when they do the backdash thing you just can't dash forwards

[south ember]

Their collision hitboxes doesn't seem to move really

which just makes it hella janky

[upbeat burrow]

deez nuts

[south ember]

especially when some attacks simply dont connect bc of it

PMA has that, too

[inner mesa]

childe

[south ember]

HT CA

also

you jsut get blocked and the attack isn't connecting

really weird

[polar heron]

when they go invis

this is how yoimiya feels when enemies still had a hitbox with q'ing

[inner mesa]

yeah in the energy amplifier event the wolves would move so sometimes i would miss the double vv with sucrose other times i would miss childe's Q

and when i miss childe Q, i reset

so the event basically made me a eula main for a while

[south ember]

Same jank when enemies still have collision when dying

[inner mesa]

hoping my burst would hit

[south ember]

In one PMA attempt the adds actually locked me into a corner of the room

and I couldn't leave bc they dont lose collision when dying

so I practically had to wait till PMA reabsorbs them and they actually despawn

[inner mesa]

damn

[south ember]

10/10 game design

very thoughtful

[inner mesa]

i wonder what kinds of enemies we'll have by snezhnaya

[balmy cosmos]

They kill you on spawn

If you don't have Tsaritsa as an active character and all harbingers in party

[narrow delta]

Peak jank

[south ember]

I've spend so much time resetting for speedruns

I've seen things

I literally had the Mask of Terror from the Triple Maguu walk away in a straight line further away than the blue one can dash

just straight up

whats AI

or push me out of the Bennett circle by walking into me

Green one sidestepping in a circle around me the entire fight

that fight is so garbage

[narrow delta]

AI is learning

[south ember]

More like the 3 are coded to attack in specific intervals and dont know what to do during down time

so they walk around like some old senile dude with dementia

[inner mesa]

just wait till new enemies start breaking ankles

[south ember]

or sometimes they dont move at all

full afk mode

[cyan tundra]

AFK mode is the most annoying

especially on rifthounds

dash to the other side of the room, then sit there

[inner mesa]

just taunting you

[south ember]

Rifthounds are great. Dash halfways out of bounds

and then sit there like they are stuck and confused

[cyan tundra]

Rifthounds would be amazingly designed enemies
if they didn't have the hitbox issues or the AI issues

[south ember]

I also don't know why

they design melee enemies

that actively disengage from you 24/7

[cyan tundra]

how did we go from the beautiful hitbox on XQ E

to this mess

[south ember]

Nobushi, Kenki, Rifthounds

[tulip remnant]

I think that Yae is mostly a Sub DPS or Support

[cold cairn]

Sub dps

She has no support from what we see

[tulip remnant]

Yeag

I mean you only will use the Elemental skill with Yae

[cold cairn]

And ult

[tulip remnant]

And while you are with other Character the Elemenatl Skill will deal damage

[tulip remnant]

Yes but that is more Opcional

Depends of the Rotation

[cold cairn]

Wouldn’t say that

[tulip remnant]

I don't think that

[cold cairn]

If her ult MVs are high which they probably will be you will use her ult

[tulip remnant]

Its probably like Sara's ultimate but better

[cyan tundra]

it looks like you use E deploys to charge up her ult

so probably

[tulip remnant]

I don't know that, so yes, her ultimate might be good

[south ember]

Practically speaking. If her Q is a nuke it will see use bc nukes make speedruns

[cyan tundra]

Her Q will probably be a nuke that needs setup to be good

[cold cairn]

All three E detonate

[cyan tundra]

yep

[cold cairn]

So the damage has to be good enough to justify it

[south ember]

Would be interesting if she has a strategical element

[cyan tundra]

I also hope she has a strategic element

[south ember]

where you compromise between outright nuking and sustained dmg

So you can tailor her use to your needs

[cyan tundra]

and have to worry about positioning as well, so that she stays trigger rather than aura

or perhaps make her aura on purpose

[tulip remnant]

I still think that most of the people will use only her elemental skill and play with her like a Sub DPS, Maybe her ultimate is important but I don't think that most of the people will use and level up it

[cyan tundra]

by positioning them around a single point

[south ember]

Aura vs Trigger will likely depend on the comp first and foremost

[cyan tundra]

ye

[south ember]

Double Electro = Aura

Double Pyro = Trigger

[cyan tundra]

if you have all 3 turrets hitting an enemy
she might be aura regardless

[upbeat burrow]

any news on what's yae's recommended set so far

[inner mesa]

no

[cold cairn]

Seems like that’s how it is rn

Depending on how her E works I can’t imagine her rotation currently

[inner mesa]

yep we need full kit leaks and footage

[cold cairn]

If her Q somehow buffs E damage

I can fully justify Q 3E

And then Q at the beginning of the next rotation and 3E again

[inner mesa]

more Kal cope

[cold cairn]

It’s everlasting

[south ember]

I'd assume you wanna spam E out

and Q whenever you want the nuke

for Speedruns you EEE Q

for sustained rots you EEE do other stuff Q

or even Q EEE next rotation

[cold cairn]

I see

[inner mesa]

yeah that's what i'm getting

[south ember]

I don't think its gonna be a long setup since that is really useless the way the game currently works

especially for whales

If they wanna sell a unit to a whale that cares, it can't just be impractical funsies

[void thistle]

not confirmed yet but a lot of ppl (including myself) believe 4TF to be a potentially competitive set

[hard socket]

WAWA!

[high quarry]

I rlly wish we could pin in this thread just that 4tf is lookin best

[cold cairn]

Looking the best is a little questionable

But it seems to be the only 4 set there is so we’ll have to see

[high quarry]

Yea but i meant just bc of how many people are asking

"Whats yaes arti set"

[void thistle]

whaf else would you use other than 4TF

[hard socket]

Wawa!

[void thistle]

[cold cairn]

2 Wanderers 2 TF

[lost merlin]

Some leakers are saying shimenawa 4 set apparently

[hard socket]

WAWA!

[void thistle]

theyre wrong

[lost merlin]

how would that work?

[void thistle]

lol

[cold cairn]

If she’s not onfield she won’t gain a lot of the benefits of TF

Shime seems to have no synergy with yae

[void thistle]

not only are leakers unknowledgeable in the game

[hard socket]

You’re wrong!

[void thistle]

but yae also gets most of her dmg from E

[hard socket]

Sheets!?

MVs?

[high mortar]

Not being designed to be on field doesn’t equate to not being able to be played on field

[cold cairn]

Roo is trolling

[hard socket]

How am I trolling.

[high mortar]

Kazuha isn’t meant to be on field but look at how good TF Kazuha is

[hard socket]

You’re the ones coming to conclusions with insufficient information.

[cold cairn]

I have no clue about Tf kazoo

[void thistle]

sheet this

[hard socket]

And then pushing that as facts.

[cold cairn]

So I can’t really say anything

[high mortar]

https://youtu.be/-qwF6R69U38

[lost merlin]

Ive never seen TF kazoo but it would be nice to see a variation, but VV shred just rlly good for him

[high mortar]

You can run a second anemo to cover VV

[void thistle]

tf bennett strong

[high mortar]

EC version uses Venti

[lost merlin]

ah yes the shield killer

[void thistle]

shield killer? just active c6 bennett

[cold cairn]

Kazoo still has a majority of the Field time in this comp it seems

[void thistle]

dont be shy

[cold cairn]

TF yae will prob depend on how you use her

[lost merlin]

I run razor with his boyf so not thanks HAHAH

if yae doesntlike shime then ill make do with wanderers then

[high mortar]

That’s my point.

[void thistle]

i mean.. thats the case with any char with multiple playstyles

[lost merlin]

TF is hell to farm

[high mortar]

Kazuha is not a character designed to be main on field unit

But that doesn’t stop playing him that way from being good

[cold cairn]

I know

[void thistle]

2WT 2TF doesnt seem that bad

[hard socket]

MVs!

[cold cairn]

So it’s more so the comp

[void thistle]

as a generalist set

[high mortar]

Ya she will probably have numerous teams with different builds

[cold cairn]

In more comps than not I personally will not have her on field

[lost merlin]

If I plan main dps yae with her played as an on field what would be her bis hmm

[void thistle]

we dont know for sure yet

[hard socket]

We don’t have enough information to arrive at a conclusion.

[high mortar]

We don’t know her MVs or cooldowns or icds

[cold cairn]

And depending on the MVs we’ll have to see which comp produces the best dps/dpr

[high mortar]

[void thistle]

imagine Q has 3s cd

[high quarry]

If only we had more numbers to see scalings

[cold cairn]

I think we’ll have them soon

[high quarry]

Hopefully

[cold cairn]

The beta is when tomorrow or Thursday?

[high mortar]

We have no idea what is best for Yae yet and we can not know this until her kit is fully leaked. Please wait for the full kit leak with motion values and cooldowns before asking what’s best for her

[hard socket]

[polar heron]

tbh I feel like the numbers aren't my primary concern but how her totem work and clarification, we have a enough to make teams already but not get final numbers

[void thistle]

before yae tc moves along

can we agree to call a future yae overload comp crimson naraka

[high quarry]

Thursday iirc

[void thistle]

[polar heron]

Totems clarification would make rotation ideas easier to handle frankly

[cold cairn]

I do want to see her AA and CA numbers

Just to see yk

[high quarry]

Thank you lmao

[polar heron]

same

[void thistle]

i wanna see how much electro she applies with E cast and lethal sakura tick

[high mortar]

[jade sand]

Numbers today bro

[lost merlin]

Makes sense

[polar heron]

it's like people are obsessed with the mvs when honestly I've lurked seeing tc comps about reacts and stuff and totems could change everything for that stuff

[jade sand]

[polar heron]

[lost merlin]

I saw a leak that her passive decreases her CD so

[topaz raft]

This was getting fixed wasn't it?

[void thistle]

passive decreased CD?

but passives dont have CDs

i love this emoji

[south ember]

There was smth in the Patch notes about it, yeah

[cold cairn]

Her E CD

[cold cairn]

Have you seen the sussy leak A1 passive?

[void thistle]

i have

was confused on passive cd

[inner mesa]

it's 1 second decrease for every skill cast by a party member that can occur once every 1.8s

[void thistle]

its suspicious how theres E CD decrease twice in her kit

does that point to a long as hell E CD

[cold cairn]

Wdym?

[void thistle]

[cold cairn]

Yea prob

[void thistle]

once in A1 passive, second in some cons

[cold cairn]

Depending on how high her E scaling is the cooldown prob justifies it

[inner mesa]

can't be 2 high tho

[cold cairn]

Yea

[inner mesa]

otherwise her wep is scuffed

[topaz raft]

I think A1 passive is fake

[cold cairn]

It’s beta too cooldowns are always subject to change

[void thistle]

they could make it long to balance her potential nuke on lethal sakura detonation

[topaz raft]

A1 cd reduction, C2 cd reduction?

Doesn't seem to make much sense

[void thistle]

can we abbreviate lethal sakura as LS

[void thistle]

hee A1 skill icon does have a clock

[topaz raft]

It seems to make her c2 less worth

It reduces the value in pulling her cons

So you either go c0 or C6

Seems they're going away from that pattern

[void thistle]

thats why we could see a very long E cd in yae

[cold cairn]

Her C2 would still be highly worth it because of the Aoe increase

[topaz raft]

AoE means nothing if you position well

[next tartan]

Depends tho

Yeah

[void thistle]

you forgot one thing

most of the playerbase are casuals that lack skill

[cold cairn]

If deals damage to one enemy tho

[void thistle]

^

each lethal sakura can only focus on one target

[topaz raft]

Most of the playerbase isn't pulling for her c2

[topaz raft]

What about it?

[void thistle]

what is positioning well gonna do in a wave of 3+ mobs

besides detonation

[cold cairn]

So positioning won’t matter in multiple enemy situations

[topaz raft]

And AoE won't matter either

What's the point?

[cold cairn]

?

[topaz raft]

Is still only shoots 1 target

It doesn't matter if you're against 1 or 10

[void thistle]

C2 makes positioning easier

[cold cairn]

If it Aoe is increased it seems to imply it hits more than 1 target

[void thistle]

think of it as the range the LS has

[jade sand]

No

[cold cairn]

Or am I understanding it wrong?

[topaz raft]

No, it implies that instead of attacking the closest target 5 meters away, it attacks the closest target 10 meters away

[jade sand]

Increases the possibility of potentially hitting more than 1 target

[void thistle]

wording is weird but i think it refers to the range of the lethal sakira

oh??

[topaz raft]

If you mess up the positioning it still hits

[void thistle]

this changes everything

[jade sand]

Who cares anyway

The Q is aoe dmg

[void thistle]

whels

[topaz raft]

"Double the range Oz can attack its target"

[hasty sentinel]

its single target character, so how small is the e aoe that they needded upgrade in cons

[topaz raft]

But for yae turret

[jade sand]

Prob fischl level

[void thistle]

c4 seems mid unless u run 3 electro team with yae

[jade sand]

Just wait for ingame footage

[void thistle]

yae-beidou-fischl-4VV

[jade sand]

Disgusting

No mention of raiden

[void thistle]

no comment

[topaz raft]

Still on Raiden Yae copium?

[void thistle]

[lost merlin]

sara would be nice

[jade sand]

Its not copium

[inner mesa]

what if they don't have raiden

[jade sand]

What makes you think they dont work?

[void thistle]

i do

[topaz raft]

Their kits?

[jade sand]

They can ask another TC

[inner mesa]

[jade sand]

I dont bother with non raiden yae comps

[inner mesa]

hold up

[lost merlin]

they rlly dont look perfect for each other in the offset HAHAH

[jade sand]

How so?

[void thistle]

and it begins

[lost merlin]

but raiden havers keep on wanting to keep them together so have at them, raiden is better in international in my opinion

[inner mesa]

imma wait till we get footage before making a definitive claim

[jade sand]

One is an on field dps the other is an off field dps

[cold cairn]

Yae has Offield damage and from her C1 a potential high cost burst

[lost merlin]

I plan on making yae main dps plain and simple

[inner mesa]

[topaz raft]

Yae doesn't want to Q early or she loses her E dmg. Raiden wants you to Q early for resolve

So you either lose Yae dmg or Raiden dmg

[jade sand]

We dont hv numbers yet

[cold cairn]

There’s always the second rot

[jade sand]

Go ahead no one is stopping you

[topaz raft]

You don't need numbers lol

[lost merlin]

Raiden wants to stay on field for her ult which loses me dps time

[void thistle]

imo defining yae as on/off-field without access to MVs/CDs is kinda

[cunning spoke]

You mean after raiden killed everything?

[cold cairn]

So that’s for you.

[jade sand]

I never said yae cant hv teams without raiden

[cold cairn]

Not for Yae in general

[jade sand]

I said i dont bother with non raiden yae teams

[topaz raft]

Well if you want to build a team to NOT kill enemies, go for it

[inner mesa]

yeah without cooldowns we can't say much about her role

[jade sand]

Thats true

[lost merlin]

I just said personally so yes

[inner mesa]

dual carry still seems cope

[lost merlin]

It also depends on her playstyle

[jade sand]

All i need to know now are the cooldowns

[lost merlin]

when the vid comes out ofc

[cold cairn]

Depending on her MV there’s always ways to manipulate their kits around each other

[jade sand]

We dont know yet lmao

[lost merlin]

I have raiden and I personally wont be putting them together but there are a lot of raiden mains bent on making them synergize

[jade sand]

Her sussy A1 encourages you switch her out

[upbeat burrow]

oh ic ty

[lost merlin]

If they have the will they have a way ig

[cold cairn]

This could however change depending on how her E gets shots out

[jade sand]

Nothing wrong with wanting to pair them together

[inner mesa]

wdym dual carry in general is cope because getting buffs on both is

[jade sand]

Dude

We dont know yet

[cold cairn]

If it’s charges I can see a way to do it

[void thistle]

also in context to the c4 aforementioned

it gives buff for 5s

raiden burst is like, 8s

or 7s

[inner mesa]

i'm not talking about raiden yae

[jade sand]

How does that benefit the other characters you mentioned?

[inner mesa]

i said in general

[void thistle]

because oz shoots fast

[jade sand]

Okay and?

[void thistle]

and beidou Q has many springs

in aoe situations

-> more dps

[jade sand]

Still doesnt make sense

[topaz raft]

Well, sure, I've seen people play Raiden and Beidou together. You can make them "work" by not Qing both at the same time

[cold cairn]

Depends

[jade sand]

Beidou's dmg is spread throughout 12 seconds

[void thistle]

doesnt more hits buffed -> more dps

[cold cairn]

They def have more synergy than Rai Beidou

[jade sand]

Raiden's is 9.5

Or less

[inner mesa]

you can't snap dmg%

[void thistle]

wdym

[topaz raft]

I have an actual tc question

[jade sand]

And raiden is frontloaded too

Tf

[inner mesa]

isn't yae c4 a dmg% increase

[topaz raft]

Do we know if Yaes A4 snapshots EM?

[jade sand]

We dont know

[inner mesa]

no

[polar heron]

don't know if anything snaps atm

[void thistle]

its an electro dmg increase for teammates for 5s

[cold cairn]

I believe you can

[void thistle]

wah

[cold cairn]

I’m not sure tho

I’d have to ask Raikh

[void thistle]

too late in the night for confusing TC

gn

[cold cairn]

I don’t think Yae snaps either

[jade sand]

No its still possible

[topaz raft]

I mean, it's gonna snapshot, it's a turret. I just don't know how it'll interact with EM buffs as EM doesn't "snapshot" for reactions

[inner mesa]

wait, really but what about sara c6

[cold cairn]

It’s hard to explain

But from what I’ve heard

[hard socket]

[cold cairn]

“Electro crit damage” isn’t a value that can be snapped

[inner mesa]

[jade sand]

Idk

[topaz raft]

Sara c6 isn't a Stat buff, you don't have "electro crit dmg" in your stats

Snapshots apply to stats

[cold cairn]

^^

[cold cairn]

Yea

[jade sand]

Fking lame ass tc

[cold cairn]

Dmg % is a concrete stat so I believe it can be snapped

Correct me if I’m wrong tho

[topaz raft]

Yup

[inner mesa]

that's cringe

[topaz raft]

You're correct

[jade sand]

I cringe when i see beidou in yae teams

[topaz raft]

Nings E gives geo dmg bonus that you can snapshot

On Albedo E for example

[cold cairn]

Yea

[inner mesa]

so you can't snapshot elemental skill dmg%

[topaz raft]

Nop

That's not a stat

[inner mesa]

[jade sand]

Hmm true

[lost merlin]

well well, I thought it was too early to assign early teammates to yae?

[jade sand]

Just an opinion

I hate beidou

[pallid lotus]

sigma just doesnt like bei

[lost merlin]

ah I see

[jade sand]

And i cringe when i see her with the characters i love

[cold cairn]

Personally if Yae’s skill MVs are high

I’ll probably use her in the place of fisch for RaiFisch

[lost merlin]

Catalyst users have pretty charge attacks so I’m gunning on that

[inner mesa]

yae snapshotting is odd tho since her wep gives 12% elemental dmg% at 3 stacks

[cold cairn]

If Yae’s ult has a high enough intial hit maybe 500% upwards

[topaz raft]

I think E cd will be to high for her to be good with Raiden but we'll see

[jade sand]

Probably

[topaz raft]

The last 12% will snapshot

The rest won't

You need to keep refreshing them

[lost merlin]

can you resummon pillars?

[topaz raft]

Yup

[jade sand]

Doesnt albedo hv something similar with skill%?

[cold cairn]

I’ll prob start with Q first 3E(if she has charges) go to Raiden and then Yae Q at the end of the rot and explode totems and to set up the next rot properly

[lost merlin]

oh nice so like albedo but three stacks

does she have a xiao type of sprint

[jade sand]

Albedo snaps buff from festering no?

[lost merlin]

or a ganyu back sprint

[topaz raft]

She won't have charges most likely, otherwise she'd have "extra charge" constellation instead of "reduced cd"

[topaz raft]

I'd bet this but we don't know

[jade sand]

We'll hv to see later

[lost merlin]

the c1 is kinda sussy whatdoes she need extra energy for KSKSK electros are known for fast er

[urban lake]

Is there a reason she can't have charges and a reduced cd?

[inner mesa]

beidou, lisa

[inner mesa]

i mean we've only every had max 3 charges

and leaks say she has 3

not much point in giving her more

[jade sand]

Dim called it 3 charges

[cold cairn]

It doesn’t have to be charged either it could be similar to Diluc’s E as well

[lost merlin]

lisas dmg is in her e anyways, and beidou generates a lot of particles because you pair them with another electro most of the time

[jade sand]

Im assuming 8s is for each E

[lost merlin]

even electros with non electro build like my razor can recharge ult almost instantly

[urban lake]

No, I meant i don't see how 3 charges and a cd reduction cons isn't feasible

[cold cairn]

As long as there’s a way to get out 3 E’s close to the same time my plan would work

[lost merlin]

the leakers are saying she has no energy problems so we’ll see

[jade sand]

You use lisa for her def shred in most comps

[lost merlin]

her e has three charges

[inner mesa]

oh it's absolutely possible

[jade sand]

Those are the same leakers who said shime was her best set

I wouldn't count on that

[finite otter]

Sac frag sounds good for her if she doesn't have charges

[jade sand]

Just wait for numbers

And particle regen

[hasty sentinel]

lisa has very high ult dmg, much better than her e

[lost merlin]

I wouldnt count on anything since ive been farming blossoms and yaes asc mat is apparently sea gonoderma

[hard socket]

Just farm all the inazuma mats.

Imagine not having at least 168 of each non-resin ascension mat.

[cold cairn]

I was also thinking of something along the same lines as well

[jade sand]

Charge is better tbh

[inner mesa]

lisa's utility lies in her ult tho, and beidou gens lots of particles with a perfect counter

[lost merlin]

I’m a hoarder who stopped building everyone for yae so I have 300 for each rn

[jade sand]

Less set up

[cold cairn]

Honestly

[lost merlin]

But the disconnect is pissing me off

[inner mesa]

like sucrose or like diluc

[cold cairn]

Hoyo never makes things easy tho

[jade sand]

Sucrose

[inner mesa]

yeah figured

[jade sand]

Diluc is consecutive either way

[inner mesa]

that's how i see it

[lost merlin]

yep electros (if built well) has no energy problems as bad as other characters like xiao or eula

[jade sand]

Diluc goes on cd after using 3 Es

Afaik theres no cd in between

[inner mesa]

xiao's ER problems aren't that bad

he needs sucrose like beidou needs fish

[jade sand]

Only eula tbh

Doesnt hv to be sucrose

I find jean to be sufficient

[inner mesa]

yeah only eula but she gets to pick from diona, rosa and raiden

[lost merlin]

yeh valid i use my xiao with double geo and benny and he still ults well, he’s just the example ppl use nowadays

[urban lake]

I think there's one if you stop using it for a while

[inner mesa]

you're more likely to get sucrose then jean tho

[jade sand]

Yes if you stop using it

Standard character

You'll get her eventually

[twilit cloak]

could yae synergize with kokomi

[inner mesa]

nah his cd starts after the first e

[jade sand]

Oh rly

[inner mesa]

yeah

it's normally like 10s

but because it start after the first you usually have like 5s of actual cooldown

[lost merlin]

yae would be good in any taze comps so maybe

[finite otter]

I feel like we won't get yae's best team anytime soon because it seems like mhy is pushing yae to be the poster child for overdose meta

[jade sand]

Wat

[lost merlin]

but we dont even know what overdose is yet

[jade sand]

There will always be the character's best team

[lost merlin]

There will a best team with the current characters

[finite otter]

I mean em stacking isn't good for electro with current reaction

[jade sand]

Overdose lmao

[lost merlin]

There are speculations like thomas bad application would be good when paired with ayato but he has best teams to pair with rn

[jade sand]

Smh

Electro reactions arent bad

But whatever

Yae has em scaling

Doesnt mean she scales entirely with em

[finite otter]

Bruh not even saying that

[polar heron]

^

[finite otter]

Electro just don't benefit much from em

[polar heron]

they do tho

[jade sand]

Well one does now

[polar heron]

[lost merlin]

I think it would be a raiden atk%-er% scenario

[jade sand]

It is

[hallow sinew]

No way she scales entirely with EM anyways, her weapon and asc. stat is crit

[polar heron]

I'll repeat again

[finite otter]

With current reactions

[hallow sinew]

And her weapon has 608 base atk

[lost merlin]

wait doesnt electrocharge get better with em

[polar heron]

Asc is mona asc

[jade sand]

Garbage em subs is converted to dmg%

[polar heron]

[polar heron]

yes

[finite otter]

Unreliable

[hallow sinew]

If she scaled with EM they might as well make it 542 atk

[polar heron]

but thing is with ec you don't know wtf procs

[jade sand]

Thats only 1 passive

[polar heron]

because coding magics

[finite otter]

So yae has chaining na considering that old leak is true

But feels like it's gonna have limited range

[lost merlin]

I hope yae has better charge attk scaling than barbara

her scaling is wild

[alpine breach]

So if yae scale em i could run fischl with elegy then

Cant it

[stone plover]

didnt kokomi have a thing where she reliably proc'd EC?

was there a certain reason for that or was it just coincidental? either way could be something interesting

[finite otter]

You want the one that procs the reaction to stack em

[stone plover]

well yeah there was a phase where ppl considered stacking EM on kokomi for it

[finite otter]

Either way that won't help in yae's case

Since yae needs to be the one proccing

[stone plover]

inb4 they change the EM conversion to something absurd

me after rage refining an r2 elegy: stonkz

[upbeat burrow]

yae is good for taser comps, she's good with off-field hydro users, more beneficial if she's using 4pc tf and sucrose since she increases em of other characs right?

[pallid lotus]

[signal quail]

yae team comp?

[jade sand]

[finite otter]

Tf user needs to be on field to proccthe ability

[pallid lotus]

yall ever check the pins

its a fun activity

[upbeat burrow]

ehehe

[upbeat burrow]

that's why I said off-field hydro

[finite otter]

Ohh mb misread that

Copium on dendro to make em stacked electro char meta cause ec is just not worth

[high quarry]

nah i love being reminded by people in chat instead

[lilac vault]

Can yae's totem crit?

[errant stag]

I actually answered all of these questions before

In pins

[lilac vault]

Oh ok, ill check the pins

[icy bramble]

@jade sand psst can I ask what is your pfp?

[jade sand]

@icy bramble dm

[dull peak]

was the thing about 'new artifact set being released alongside yae miko' ever validated? or was that just a fake leak

[upbeat burrow]

we will know tomorrow hopefully if there are any new artifact sets or not

[cold cairn]

Hopefully there is a new set

Or I’ll prob just go 2TF 2WT

[dull peak]

they might even pull a 4eosf situation for yae miko to force shimenawa to be her bis, like how raiden was forced into 4eosf from her Q changes

[warped escarp]

i think raiden's Q was always burst dmg, we just never go informed

[cold cairn]

Her damage would’ve been incredibly low if it wasn’t

[honest viper]

it wasnt at first in the beta, but as a result she didnt work with emblem

so they changed it

[dull peak]

ye

[honest viper]

which was for the better

[cold cairn]

You sure?

[honest viper]

yes

[dull peak]

people were tcing her with 2eosf 2 electro set for a while before that change happened in the datamines/beta

iirc?

they all swapped to 4eosf calcs after

[cold cairn]

When we learned of it, it was described in a tool kick not in her official kit

[warped escarp]

what i saw people saying was that players don't get characters first day of beta and raiden was all datamined within the client, when players got raiden to play she was burst dmg

[hard socket]

[cold cairn]

I really believe it was always burst damage

The 4EoSF wouldn’t have made sense if it was from the beginning

[honest viper]

i can remember when the changes were applied, also thats where the raiden/beidou firestorm started. because at first she did indeed work with beidou because her ult wasnt burst dmg yet and beta testers/leakers confirmed she worked with beidou at the time and that it was a decent comp. until it was changed at which point it no longer worked.

[uncut agate]

So what's the best artifacfor a dps yae??

[cold cairn]

Raiden is like the only character who can truly get the full buff from the EoSF

[cold cairn]

Pins

[warped escarp]

we don't know beta has to start

[signal brook]

It was like 2nd or 3rd week when they updated it

[cold cairn]

It was 2nd when they actually were able to play the characters iirc

Maybe third tho unsure

[honest viper]

im wondering, wouldn't sucrose be a more viable/competitive alternative to kaz for Yae specifically, since she can actually use her EM transfer.

[dull peak]

as a side note I can see why yae's cata is as broken as it is, they have to use it to directly compete with widsith

because holy fuck they really tried hard to compensate for that

[warped escarp]

if totems do not snapshot the buff duration would be too low i believe

[signal brook]

U can technically play the character in the 1st week

[cold cairn]

Totems might not snap

Cuz they gain levels the more there are

Alone with her BiS weapon

[glacial flax]

About her bist weapon tho it require 3 E so chance are yae will have 3 charge or very low cd E at c0 no?

[dull peak]

yeah if the wording is what I think it is

[warped escarp]

i personally think she will have single charge but low cd and high turret duration

[dull peak]

u have to cast E 3 times

[cold cairn]

We’re all coping for charges currently

It’s still unsure tho

[glacial flax]

We can kinda guess her kit base on bist weapon

[warped escarp]

multiple charges would be better i think, but it is mihoyo so i have set me expectations low

will roll for her either way

[dull peak]

yeah we could

[cold cairn]

Beta starts tomorrow or Thursday so we’ll know soon enough

[glacial flax]

E multiple attacks wont proc her weapon either

[uncut agate]

Is solar pearl viable to her or widsith is the bis 4 star

[glacial flax]

Since it on E cast wording

[cold cairn]

Hopefully we get her tomorrow

[warped escarp]

solar pearl seems like a competitive option

[south ember]

Current standings both look like very good choices

[warped escarp]

but widsith is easier refine

[glacial flax]

Solar pearl and widsith seems to be neck and neck cause widsith have 10s/30s cooldown

[jade sand]

From the wording its not charges, we dont know for sure dou

[glacial flax]

Well if it have like 1s cooldown like lisa tap E that would be nice

[south ember]

I just hope its spamable to 3 and doesn't take you half an hour to set up

[dull peak]

would be kinda busted if she had a tap e teleport I think

on 1s

[cold cairn]

Honestly

If we can shoot them all out at the same time that would be the best case scenario

[dull peak]

i have a feeling that her playstyle would be similar to sara's you swap into her E then swap out asap for your other characters , then go into her Q once you finish setting up

because a monoelectro team with raiden+sara is kind of tight already, and trying to put another subdps in would create a eula situation

[south ember]

likely, the question is just if you can set up all 3 totems at once or have delays

[glacial flax]

She could have 2 builds, E focus and Q focus

[south ember]

the latter is really bad unless you have a tailored quickswap comp for it

[honest viper]

i just hope she feels fine at C0, and not con dependent.

[dull peak]

im pretty sure it's going to be 3 totems on a small cooldown per cast, not as charges

but im speculating

mihoyo rarely breaks the mold for non archon characters

[glacial flax]

Does the stacks from yae bist weapon reset everytime u gain stacks?

[south ember]

We have several untis with charges on abilities, so thats not breaking any molds

[dull peak]

fair

we don't have a triple charge character yet though, do we?

[south ember]

Since it doesn't say Stacks are independent I'm inclined to say all Stacks refresh

[glacial flax]

[south ember]

Xiao with C1

[dull peak]

o

ok

[south ember]

We also have Diluc who has 3 charges on a single cd

[glacial flax]

So yae E will likely to be <12s

[south ember]

So we have precedents

[dull peak]

fair enough, i'm glad to be proven wrong

[glacial flax]

[inner mesa]

yeah she has to be able to cast E 3 times in 12s to get the full effects of her wep

[keen merlin]

but we also have Zhongli C1 that allows you to but 2 stone steles but it's not charges

[alpine breach]

Ye not everything need to be like xiao

That have pepega cooldown

I wish xiao e was a diluc type

I hate his type of cooldown so nuch

[viscid socket]

She has to be able to cast E 3 times in significantly less time than 12s

[dull peak]

that or they make her only fully stack her weapon after her 2nd rotation

[keen merlin]

If Yae E isn't charges it seems kinda ass to maintain the 3 stacks on her weapon ability tho

[south ember]

just form a practicality PoV

if she takes a full rot to ramp dmg

she cant deal enough dmg to be a good unit

[keen merlin]

unless the multiplier is crack af

[sacred sphinx]

Not necessarily. Ramp up damage can be good if the multipliers are worth it

[south ember]

not if you can one rot stuff

[cold cairn]

Each totem has to have a 300% MV to start with

[south ember]

or enemies reposition out of totem range

[dull peak]

yeah she has to compete with lisa/fischl/beidou as electro offield units while she's ramping up if that's the case

[cold cairn]

With each level you go up 150% MVs

[cold cairn]

Fischl is especially hard to beat too

[sacred sphinx]

Again, we don't know the multipliers. A couple totems can be more than enough to clear stuff for all we know

[cold cairn]

The MVs would have to be extraordinarily high then

[south ember]

The argument was IF she takes a full rot to ramp up, which would imply she doesn't have couple of totems with much uptime on the first rot

[glacial flax]

300%mv seems alright tbh

[south ember]

Sure if a level 1 totem can put out 3k MV+ across a rotation snapshotted with Buffs I'll buy it

[keen merlin]

Not sure how much her passive gonna help with that either, switching back and forth to just to reduce the E cooldown seems tedious af for the rotation

[south ember]

but I kinda doubt its THAT high

[viscid socket]

I think they'll make her E like Diluc - weaving normals between charges

[cold cairn]

You don’t have to weave normals for diluc either

[alpine breach]

Her passive doesnt have any cooldown reduction when aa tho

[cold cairn]

You can do all three but the Cd is just a lil longer

[alpine breach]

I dont think shes planned to be aa based type

[sacred sphinx]

There's so many variable than can influence the outcome that there's no point in speculating wheter ramp up damage would be good or bad with the current info

[cold cairn]

Nothing at all in her kit implies anything about her AAs

[alpine breach]

Weapon imply E focused

[dull peak]

yeah, not with these current leaks anyway

[south ember]

Its more like that ramp up is fundamentally bad in a game where you inevitably converge upon a Speedrun since you can outgear content 10 times over

[glacial flax]

No it only imply that her E will have less than 12s

[keen merlin]

her passives seems and cons seems to suggest switch to other character instead

[dull peak]

yeah kinda like sara?

[alpine breach]

Ye no weapon are made to not work with the Character

[dull peak]

so you dash forward with yae, swap, then dash back with sara hold E

[glacial flax]

It gives elemental dmg bonus so it universal

[dull peak]

so yo udont move around too much

[cold cairn]

Weapon directly buffs E damage

[glacial flax]

Oh it say elemental skill not elemental dmg

[glacial flax]

[cold cairn]

Yea

[dull peak]

it's less universal than you might think

most current catalyst users are Q or AA focused

[south ember]

Her Cons are also very E focussed

[alpine breach]

It need to have 3 stack to active the elements dmg pssive

[sacred sphinx]

You're acting as if you only had 20 seconds to clear abyss. Not being able to clear in a single rotation is only bad for speedrunners. In Abyss where you can do more than one rotation, if she can clear any content in the game easily in time she becomes amazing for the vast majority of the playerbase

[dull peak]

and they already have Q and AA heavy catalysts to work with

[alpine breach]

Lisa can kinda use the catalist

Because her tap is such a low cooldown

[dull peak]

ye she's the only one who has giga synergy with it

[glacial flax]

If yae took too long for stacking her E widsith will drop down in value

[alpine breach]

In a way yae is lisa but have totem

Stacking what

[sacred sphinx]

Ramp up damage is good as long as it can clear in time. Having limited time doesn't automatically make it bad

[keen merlin]

looking at her cons she seems E and Q focus but mainly her E, still not sure what "Lethal Sakura Thunderbolt" does exactly

[alpine breach]

It just bigger e dmg is the prediction

[south ember]

Every unit can clear content, thats not award worthy. What matters is how good a unit is with respect to its peers. If she was to have a lot of ramp she would have to catch up in dmg over a longer time before she even breaks even with her alternatives. Ofc depending on the Account she has mroe time to do so. But given that over time you should steadily clear faster she'd grow weaker the stronger your Account becomes, which is a bad perspective.

[sacred sphinx]

I did not say clear content, I said clear content easily within time. There's a difference there.

[keen merlin]

my guess is her E wouldn't be doing as much dmg without her Q, like Itto AA and E buff by his Q

[sacred sphinx]

With easily I obviously mean being very good at doing so

[alpine breach]

Easily example is raiden

[dull peak]

you could potentially use her in a typical EC sucrose team
she stays as a passive offielder (like raiden) until her weapon is fully ramped up, from sucrose doing her thing, then swap into yae when she's ready to go

I think that could work for a 'ramping up' playstyle without being too 'weak'

[alpine breach]

You could also just use her like oz

[dull peak]

since her inital unstacked mvs dont really mean much when she's going heavy into EM, maybe?

[alpine breach]

Q first then eee for the passive dmg then q again when energy full

[keen merlin]

how long until beta start

[sacred sphinx]

The EM passive is not that impacful

[hard socket]

You don't know that.

[dull peak]

it might not be but em is still important for EC teams

[wise sparrow]

I'm not wasting the best DPS in the game like that and I imagine most people aren't either just for Yae

[sacred sphinx]

We have the numbers though

[dull peak]

esp with sucrose funnneling 200ish em to her

[hard socket]

UNLESS YOU DO, YOU LEEKER!?

[sacred sphinx]

It's less than a DMG ciclet

[hard socket]

You have part of the numbers.

[sacred sphinx]

You got me 😳

[cold cairn]

This is what I’m saying

[alpine breach]

Shes just a totem based oz

[keen merlin]

we don't have enough to make that judgement yet

[cold cairn]

Q triple E for the totems to be up for the whole rotation

If she’s dynamic even better

[south ember]

Clearing easily is something that depends a lot on investment aswell and what you call easily with regards to leniency on the timer.
Ofc there is enough space on the timer for ramping units, but its still a disadvantage inherently that has to pay off big, for her to solidify as a good unit. And depending on who you are there practically can't be a big neough pay-off if the ramp takes too long

[alpine breach]

Totem will be the meat of dmg with how it looking

[wise sparrow]

Oh now I see what you mean. I thought you were saying use Raiden as an E bot for a second

[dull peak]

yeah

im honestly more excited about mona lisa becoming GIGA VIABLE now though

im defo getting the weapon for lisa

[south ember]

And to be clear I'm not saying she will have that problem or that ramp. Its purely a what if she has very significant ramp

[alpine breach]

Lisa e is the best abuser for it than yae in all catalist user

[viscid socket]

Yeah she'll likely have all 3 charges from the start

[sacred sphinx]

Not if the multipliers and cooldown make it worth it. You could be fully ramped within 12 seconds for all we know

There are a lot of factors that will influence her viability, mainly multipliers and cooldown

[cold cairn]

If her sus A1 passive is true

[glacial flax]

What her sus a1

[sacred sphinx]

I get the point you are trying to make, but if she only takes one or two rotations to fully ramp up and the multipliers make it worth it, it shouldn't be a problem

[glacial flax]

[upbeat burrow]

doesn't lisa demand a strong shielder or zhongli cuz of hold E

[cold cairn]

Cd reduction every 1.8 sec when teammates cast elemental skill/burst

[glacial flax]

Mhmmm very sussy

[alpine breach]

Shes not a main dps she want alot of off fielder that spam e and Q to proc this
Characters other than Yae can trigger “Keikaku” (TL note: Keikaku means plan) (TL note 2 from Holy: it’s not the best TL but fuck you I like the meme), which shortens Yae’s E (post says E but I'm not too sure if it's E or Q) cooldown. Using E or Q on other characters shortens her cooldown by 1 second each. Can occur only once every 1.8s.

The sus leak

[dull peak]

you pair this alongside 4tf and she should get her E cds back pretty quickly 🤔

[alpine breach]

The clock icon is usually cooldown stuff so make sense

[cold cairn]

Makes sense

So assuming its real

[sacred sphinx]

The icon also hints towards it being a team related ability

The sussy leak seems very plausible imo

[cold cairn]

Sus leaks seems to be real then

[upbeat burrow]

what team ideas are coming to mind with Yae's kit

[alpine breach]

Usually quickswap stuff

[south ember]

It ofc depends on the scale of the ramp up. If you can do it during a normal rotation and simply press delete at the end of it that can be very powerful. If you take a full rotation to set up turrets that then deal sustained dmg over time, while being potentially outranged by enemies or new waves spawning at the other end of the room, thats a massive issue.

Quite frankly I don't think her set up will be that long at all. It just doesn't mesh well with their current enemy design

[dull peak]

i think she fits into ec sucrose, taking the place of fischl or beidou, depending on whether you dont need single target (fischl) or aoe (beidou)
so sucrose/xingqiu/beidou-fischl/yae

also mono electro, possibly as a more whale orientated comp
yae/raiden/sara/kazuha

[cold cairn]

I’m only thinking of Yae Raiden comps tbh

That’s legit all I’m getting Yae for

[sacred sphinx]

Fair enough, those are valid concerns. I can see enemies getting out of the AOE being annoying, especially if getting the full setup takes too long. I guess we'll have to wait

[upbeat burrow]

I want to make her work with OL

[harsh plank]

does anyone know if yae would good w childe

[dull peak]

ol might only be viable in c2 depending on how big her totem aoes are

you can try forcing it with venti against moveable mobs though

[south ember]

Yep, waiting is the best medicine here. And if any potential issues should actually manifest thats debatable on a much more solid basis than hypotheticals and what-ifs

[dull peak]

or super immobile enemies like vishaps

[cold cairn]

If enemies can be hit away with OL just use venti

If they have poise

It isn’t an issue

[dull peak]

i think it's extremely hard to beat beidou in a childe national comp

[viscid socket]

those big wolfs can be knocked away too but they can't be launched

[dull peak]

unless, again, youre fighting single target, then maybe it's only c6 fishcl she has to compete with

[harsh plank]

i kinda wanna keep yoimiya and childe on my team cuz they’re both c6 so im determined to make her work w them somehow LOL

[keen merlin]

what there will be 0 synergy

[honest viper]

im more interested in the EM aspect of her kit, and if she will get an artifact set that further justifies building EM. because currently it seems very odd for her to just casually have a passive like that

when both she and her weapon are crit based

[dull peak]

i think it's mostly there to give her minor synergy with em/ec characters

[honest viper]

maybe

[dull peak]

building her full em might be only for budget yae builds

like 4totm raiden

[honest viper]

at least widsith passive* is fully usable on her

[dull peak]

depending on whether the 20s widsith downtime is fine

[cold cairn]

I honestly imagine a new arti set will come out

[honest viper]

same tbh, but we just have to wait

[cold cairn]

It’s still a pretty good stat stick regardless

[dull peak]

it is

[keen merlin]

I hate this, I don't want to farm artifacts again this soon

[south ember]

Its definitely quite odd. But at the same time Electro reactions triggers are unusual, since that only really works if a unit is the only electro unit on a Team. So the chances of having a Team where she does enough reaction dmg to potentially compromise her MV based dmg seem kinda low.
Not even really considering EC here since EC ownership is all over the place

[dull peak]

wonder if new artifact set (if there will be one) may be something super loaded like the latest geo set

[cold cairn]

Honestly

[south ember]

If they wanna have you farming it versus random pieces stacked with Crit it should be a significant upgrade

[cold cairn]

Rn 2 TF 2WT looks like the way I’m going

I have a some pretty good wanderers pieces too

[south ember]

I cna probably glue some 240 CV Double 2 Set combos together

[cold cairn]

Oo

[south ember]

so if she was to get a Set, it better be worth dropping to 200 CV with it

[cold cairn]

Thank god for crate ascension

Makes stuff so much easier

I’m way luckier with cdmg rolls than Crate rolls too

[south ember]

Thats my Widsith Lisa with 2NO2Shime

[cold cairn]

SHEESH