Itto Thread

[real phoenix]

it wasted way more than 1 stack

well not way more, it wasted 2

[grizzled kestrel]

It wastes 2 because I start with 3 most likely

[real phoenix]

i know

[storm tulip]

he still got 2 from c1 iirc

even if it "wastes" the 2 you initially gain, those ones dont matter much

cause ideal scenario is you go into SCA with 5 stacks and then c1 gives you 3 extra, but that is impossible if you cast ushi during Q which you should

the on cast c1 stacks dont really matter much since you have a max cap anyways if say the last ushi you cast on Q gets hit 3 times+stack on leave you would always be "wasting" c1 stacks, but the question is are you really if you still want to cast ushi regardless

[whole juniper]

Just gotta say I'm so glad I invested in Itto. I've gone from having to ask for help for domain farming to now for example easily clearing the Shimenawa domain in less than 30 sec without taking damage

[somber sandal]

man now I really wish thoma ult proc'd on CA's

it really feels bad not getting a good shield with him using Itto vs Diluc

[humble rose]

Have you tried Xinyan

Gorou makes xinyans shield bigger

And she’s guaranteed to proc favonious if c2

Even without any CR

[somber sandal]

no built xinyan

[humble rose]

And she can hold ToTM

[humble rose]

[somber sandal]

[humble rose]

Has anyone tried double geo double cryo?

Itto Gorou Rosaria diano

Cryo resonance Rosaria CR and shield

Could be a funny person and use gmc instead of Gorou for even more cr

[unique rover]

ill try

but the cryo reso is nonsense

coz itto has 100 cr

[humble rose]

Use cdmg hat

[unique rover]

ill do later

[amber cipher]

How good are dual geo comps with Itto? and what are some of the better options for the other two slots?

[rigid bay]

I've mentioned this before but it's only worth consideration if you are an owner of R5 Favonius, which 100% procs on crit, under the nature of you relying solely on C2 to bring out her value (being able to focus pure DEF TotM and the like for shield strength and the like) which only comes out at only one attempt per her rotation from Q

Which makes this alternative inherently expensive, as noom has pointed out to me before

You can build her with circlet helmet, but by that point you've started diminishing her one reason she's there to begin with

[cinder current]

just asking, assuming redhorn and def% sands should you ever prioritize def% sub stats compared to crit substats?

[rigid bay]

Don't get me wrong though, I wish I can find some ways to really make Xinyan a good alternative as well but I can't see any at the moment that doesn't require you having very specific weapon refinement and the like

[rigid bay]

In normal circumstances, CR/CD circlet always will win even at bad rolls, unless you have DEF% circlet that have mad rolls into CR/CD (think all 5 upgrades going into either)

Oh wait

You are asking substats in general

Fuck me I need to read properly

[cinder current]

I meant with a def% sands/ geo cup/crit hat would def subs or crit subs be better

[rigid bay]

CR/CD value is always welcomed in general while DEF subs will start diminishing in value the more you have of it

Especially with redthorn as that weapon does bloat your stats for DEF% pool

[violet bolt]

has itto dp rotation calculated already?

[storm tulip]

I am

(jk, i'm at 80/205 with SS, but I could change pieces around to get 100% crit rate)

[humble rose]

A lot of people have favonious refines

They love to show up on character and standard banners

[amber cipher]

Why does Gorou have Geo damage ascension stat? can you build him to do decent damage?

[humble rose]

Same reason Diona does cryo dmg

Mihoyo funny

[amber cipher]

sadge :(

[rigid bay]

Yeah, but the point remains though, it is worth a consideration if you are an owner to one

For example, myself really, I don't

[somber sandal]

yea I only got one fav gs during inazuma releases, at r2 rn iirc
I have r3? fav bow, r4 fav lance, r5 fav sword (fuck you game for giving me so many in a short timespan in inazuma), and r3? fav codex

weapon refines even for the "lower end" ones are

kinda hard to come by

[patent hull]

At what point of r1 ss stack does r5 whiteblind overpower it? I keep getting damage (without zhongli) so i cant maintain full ss stacks so i was thinking maybe i should r5 whiteblind instead

[humble rose]

Still, even without r5, her burst hits a shit ton of times and is AoE

So I don’t think you need r5

[rigid bay]

Only the physical damage aspect of the ult is amplified to 100% crit rate

[humble rose]

C2 r3 fav you already got an 80% chance to proc it just from the guaranteed proc before accounting for her E cast, E dot, or Q dot, or AoE

[humble rose]

I know that

[rigid bay]

And it is only one instance

[humble rose]

C2 r3 fav you already got an 80% chance to proc it just from the guaranteed proc before accounting for her E cast, E dot, or Q dot, or AoE

If even one of those other hits crits that’s another 80% chance

[ancient pecan]

does albedo snapshot dmg% buffs? how does a rotation look like with albedo and gorou in the team?

[humble rose]

Like how Kazuha is amazing at proccing fav even without high CR cuz he hits so many times

[rigid bay]

Where are we getting the crit from? If I am to assume you are doing pure Tom Def on all (or so I believe what you're doing)

[humble rose]

Don’t see why Xinyan would be any different

[humble rose]

KQM standards you would have 44.6 CR

[nocturne sorrel]

only if it's specifically geo/elemental damage

anything on his stats page is snapshot

[rigid bay]

I had thought you were going to initially pool her substats all in for DEF%, though naturally of course there will be rolls that goes into CR% if deliberately sought for in the substats

[humble rose]

Xinyans Q has the guaranteed crit, the 7 dot, she has her E cast, and like 1 E DoT proc while she’s on field. Assuming the physical portion fails it’s 80% chance at r3 to proc fav, you still have 9 other hits that have a 44% chance to crit

[humble rose]

You can’t get def subs on def main stat

[rigid bay]

Essentially hinging on to C2 as the only method to trigger the fav

[humble rose]

[rigid bay]

[humble rose]

Only flower and feather can have it if you’re triple defense

[rigid bay]

Then that begs another question, the ER front

[humble rose]

Favonious is 60 ER

I already ran the ER numbers for this

[rigid bay]

I need to calculate this when I get home

Oh

And how much was the baseline ER needed then

Either I'm lagging or

[rigid bay]

Not too shabby

[humble rose]

thats only 2 liquid subs out of the 20 you're allocated under kqm standards

[rigid bay]

I suppose I could give it a live test run when I've got time and resource to do so

my xinyan is like LV.20

I had misremembered her energy cost being 80 to be honest so I was expecting a higher baseline for consistent performance

[humble rose]

Level 90 double crowned here

[humble rose]

60 cost 4 particles

[rigid bay]

Personally I would never really swap my ZL out for her, and there is no cryo version of the abyss brothers yet

But it is a worthwhile consideration moving forward

For others' alternatives for those without ZL

[humble rose]

Xinyan is good for every type of shield breaking except pyro

Her burst has 7 hits of pyro damage and her shield pulses 6 times

[rigid bay]

From her Q and shield pyro application I presume

[humble rose]

Her shield has no icd

[rigid bay]

Does it not possess ICD

The pyro tick from Q

[humble rose]

Her Q has her shield doesn’t

[rigid bay]

Hm

Yeah I'll need to do live test before anything else to say about

As I very obviously have thousand hours of playtime with her

[humble rose]

She can also use husk for bigger shield

[rigid bay]

No thanks, I don't need to put another 2 months farming on top of what I already have planned

For husk I mean*

[humble rose]

[hollow robin]

Ok so when do we start meming with phys itto?

or shatter itto?

[tepid stream]

i like the sound of shatto

[violet bolt]

which site is this

[storm tulip]

Tbf if you are farming for yunjin you can use that on xinyan

They would want the same pieces since xinyan is effectively a shield bot here with fav sword and guaranteed crit on Q

[rigid bay]

No I refuse to give anything from my geo family to a Pyro orphan

Jk

[storm tulip]

But also it is kinda copium still without 4pc ToM

ToM is super important for xinyan shield durability

[rigid bay]

Yeah pretty much

Maybe il get around to it once I update geo dad's set

It'll be a while till then since I'm gonna try to go as far out as possible for Itto and albedo for now

[reef arrow]

But I thought geo was just yellow physical?

[storm tulip]

Yeah I'll likely be farming husk for the majority of 2.4 and remainder of this patch

[reef arrow]

I'm farming husk even harder than what other people farmed emblem

I'm going all in on geo

[storm tulip]

Already did it, and honestly 30k charged attacks with 57k final is pretty nice, r3 wolfs gravestone 2 bc 2 pf

[rigid bay]

All I hope for is C6 Gorou, I chose to ignore harp or Redthorn for him, so come home plz

[reef arrow]

I told you geo was just yellow physical

[storm tulip]

It ia just harder to build stacks up

[rigid bay]

So I can get a 1:2 ratio of 100:200

[reef arrow]

Whats crit fishing?

100:250 should be doable tbh

[rigid bay]

I mean it's possible, just all about getting the substats rolled

Which is like, well 99.5% of the bs for artis

[static mural]

its called shitto

[steep marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-cheeto-xqc-cheeto-cheetah-xqc-cheetah-gif-20279832

[analog obsidian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Memepact/comments/ri92ml/what_ushi_actually_feels_like/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
What the fuck

[red umbra]

is there an updated weapon ranking? Or is the old one still valid

[reef stump]

Nothing has changed to a dramatic degree, so weapon rankings should still hold true. Only thing to look out for is how Whiteblind is handled in a given list since he does snapshot his conversion and can't reliably maintain WB Stacks across rotations

[red umbra]

reason i ask is itto mains seems to have redhorn quite far ahead of r5 ss which is a bit weird to me

ill try look into that

[reef stump]

That list is a bit strange, definitely. It states SS is the only weapon that doesn't start at Full HooD Stacks but I can't really see at how many they let it start.
I've also checked if my investment is warping weapon rankings in some way compared to KQM Standards and it doesn't.
And me overshooting Buff Uptime from Pre-Release is hurting Redhorn more than SS if anything

[red umbra]

yeah seems like it's outdated, but even then i dont think it explains the margin of difference

bc if anything the combo used is quite conservative with its NA usage

[reef stump]

Yep, thats what makes it even more confusing

bc Redhorn grows stronger the more NA/CA you have over E

so single E rots or smth like that can have Redhorn more substantially ahead

but that itsn't the case here

[reef stump]

Checking my newest Calcs at KQM Standards and dynamic Buff Uptime Redhorn is ~5.5% above R5 SS with both starting at 4 Stacks HooD. If I say SS only has 3 Stacks across the whole duration it would be 9.8% but thats really overshooting it since HooD should be at Max Stacks 2 Attacks in at the latest, so its maybe 6-6.5% and that only on the first rotation.

[hollow robin]

wait.... @humble rose what if we do TF itto with c2 to have more or less nonstop burst?
Albedo gorou itto fischl

[reef stump]

TF only procs on EC, OL and SC

[hollow robin]

[reef stump]

But tbh back to back Itto Qs are meme-y due to lacking Buffs and once you run your Supports again you're back to 20s rots

Even a quick FIsh E, Albedo E, Gorou E is 3s and with Itto's 14-15s field time you're at 17-18s

[humble rose]

Ok but how tho

[hollow robin]

Forgot crystallize didn't proc TF

ignore this

[humble rose]

If it did there would be Ushi Spam Itto

[hollow robin]

that's what I was thinking of

use ushi with c2 for spam and perma ult

but alas

it was not meant to be

[dense ocean]

Hi, I have C5 Itto hope to have his C6 and I play him with Zhongli Gorou and Fischl. Gorou is in 4p NO and Zhongli in 4p ToM, and my rotation for now is: E Zhongli -> E Fischl -> E Gorou -> A Itto and I cast 2 Ushi during it and I repeat it a second time with A Gorou when it’s up. I don’t know if that’s a good team/if I do a good rotation? For now my Albedo is unbuild, do you think I have to switch him with Fischl later? I also wondered if Itto’s optimized combo changed if C5? Thank you!

[hollow robin]

his combo does not change between c0 and c5

[dense ocean]

Okay thank you!

[reef stump]

Albedo over Fischl would be a noticable upgrade for the Team. Especially thanks to Gorou Albedo would just provide much more damage than Fischl in that comp and also make managing energy even easier, although its likely no concern with C2 anyway.
Albedo might however be the first unit that gets occasionally replaced for shield checks should you want to play an Itto Team against a shield heavy Abyss

[dense ocean]

Okay thanks, I’m gonna spend the rest of my life in Husk domain for my geo boys lmao

Thank you for your answer!

[stoic wagon]

yay ittos on genshin optimiser

[patent hull]

I used quad geo in abyss corrosion with albedo replacing diona so i got no healer, short story i made it past all chambers because albedo is like a huge chunk of off field damage that i kill enemies too quickly for corrosion to even matter

Albedo is a very good investment on an itto team and is a good flex unit that increases team dps by a very long shot. Hope people realize that more (esp those with albedo)

[wooden turret]

what is the rotation of skills with gorou, albedo and itto?

[steep marsh]

I do:
Gorou E -> Albedo E -> ZL E -> Gorou Q -> Itto

[wooden turret]

I do that with fishcl instead of zhongli

[unique rover]

I do gorou e > zl e(q) > albedo e > gorou q (e) > itto

[trim pumice]

Gorou's Q gives extra 25% DEF. Your Albedo is missing out on a ton of damage by not casting his skill during Gorou's burst.

[steep marsh]

yeah, but my Itto would lost more from Gorou Q ending midway his combo

[spark aurora]

^

[charred crag]

Coming along nicely at 9/8/8, 83/200 with gorou

[static mural]

tfw gorou c6 and a1 doesnt cover most of ittos fieldtime

[storm tulip]

it 100% covers most of his field time

they are on 12 second duration

also a1 isnt SUPER relevant it is more so c6 and the geo dmg bonus from e buff

since snapshot happens

[steep marsh]

Gorou C6 doesnt snapshots btw

[storm tulip]

yeah

a1 does

it is why it is not super relevant if that ends midway, what hurts ending midway is the geo dmg bonus and c6

and that is why it is not worth doing gorou Q->albedo E, even if you go back to gorou and cast E to refresh c6 before going to itto you will lose the geo dmg midway and the 25% defense for the a4/redhorn scaling specifically

(also noblesse buff since gorou should be on it)

[violet bolt]

dang man Itto's so fun in his trial but I haven't even finished farming for Shenhe's blizzard artis

[static mural]

congrats shenhe can live with gladiator and shimenawa

[dapper bramble]

thats fast. props to them

[unique rover]

why is this lowkey intimidating HGDKJAFL

[steep marsh]

[sharp sinew]

Did anyone test Itto Dragonstrike?

[dapper bramble]

what is highest achievable continuous SCA for itto c1? any clip?

[dapper bramble]

there is few in kqm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPVhTbOESBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGNA5v2xu7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QGsqt094xU

[rigid bay]

genshin optimizer finally included itto, thats nice

if only the auto scanner doesnt fucking crash midway though

@reef stump speaking of which, i wonder if itto's C6 is worth getting honestly speaking, il be adjusting my consideration along the way as new characters get released and everything, but it seems like so much fun that i would love to get it down the line

its a terrible shame that the rest of his constellations (specifically c4) just isnt much to write home about though

also yeah im dying from reading the general tc chat

[charred crag]

Any tips for itto vs abyss 12 doggos? I easily 36* just by swapping back to my old Noelle, but I wanted to do triple kenki with itto :( but I basically get the entire party down to 15% on first map from corrosion with only gorou healing vs noelle's chonky healing. Itto is more fun though.

[rigid bay]

do u have a ZL on itto's team?

oh dear that ER

[reef stump]

Technically its a huge powerspike but at whale power levels its likely just overkill. Difficult to say if it pays of for a more normal player that has the Cons but isn't really exisitng at whale power level. Depends a lot on how well Itto holds up over time

[rigid bay]

yeah most certainly

[charred crag]

Yes, and the ER is fine/itto is c2

[reef stump]

C5+C6 on Itto is basically Raiden C2 power level

[rigid bay]

the only concern or ever would be him slowly being powercrept by release of new characters

though in my case that would be geo characters specifically

as i never use other element main dps

[reef stump]

That is precisely the concern for a long-term C6 investment

[rigid bay]

hmm

yeah i guess i cant make an on the spot decision, just have to see how the meta shifts for muh boi overtime

[reef stump]

yep

[rigid bay]

Ah, right, C2

For my case specifically, I actually just brute force the whole floor without healer on Itto's team

I just have to be hyper aware of enemies attacks while doing the initial Gorou E to Albedo E's rotation as that's the only time I could get hit and die

[reef stump]

Honestly surprised you don't jsut blast through the Floor w/o getting hit by Corrosion much

[rigid bay]

But then again that's only on the first initial rot since Zhongli shield is not up yet then

[rigid bay]

If you had a bad run on the first floor, the rest is pretty mucked up as well, and by bad I mean you took a lot of wolf bites

I had such run yesterday where by the end of the chamber, Itto had much more health since he spent a lot of time in Gorou's Q

[charred crag]

I didn't want to risk it after seeing how it went twice with itto and just getting torn to shreds during setup and get hit by a lucky shot against kenki lol. I still blasted through it but I took so much dmg doing so haha

[rigid bay]

while everyone is literally one shot

[reef stump]

I know that

[rigid bay]

Is your Gorou C4?

[charred crag]

C6

[reef stump]

but I played it quite a few times for Maguu Speedruns

[rigid bay]

hm

[reef stump]

And basically never had an issue with Corrosion

And I play HT w/o a healer there

[rigid bay]

Yeah idk, i didnt either previous run, i think its just out damaging them before the corrosion takes hold too long

and damage u way too much

[reef stump]

Might be unfortunate attack timings idk

[charred crag]

Not like I struggled with abyss in general, just making itto work. I also ran no healer hutao on first half xD vapemelt with Rosa/kaeya though so decent cc

[rigid bay]

probs

I need to run more of Floor 12 to give a proper advice depending on the corrosion but what I can say is literally just protect your support rotations to be honest

so u can mayhaps push ZL to do his skill first

so instead of opening with gorou e and albedo e

[charred crag]

And Noelle makes it an absolute cakewalk while still doing 30-40k NAs while brute force healing through any and all corrosion, but she doesn't throw a cow

[reef stump]

I played HT XQ ZL X most runs

[rigid bay]

you could do ZL E > Gorou E (Q if ult ready) > Albedo E > Itto

[stray escarp]

ayzel is doing team DPS itto calculations live right now

[reef stump]

Was just wondering what the exact issue is

[rigid bay]

you will lost a bit of uptime on itto but its better than straight up losing gorou or albedo

[reef stump]

since dmg shouldn't be it

[stray escarp]

and it's not looking too great for mono geo

[rigid bay]

yeah i legit think its rng or something

cuz its either

really smooth

[spark aurora]

[rigid bay]

or oh shit everyone dying by chamber 3

[rigid bay]

lol yeah deadass noelle have got it all in one package

[charred crag]

Definitely not lacking damage, it's just that I kept getting corrosion stacked up the wazoo from enraged doggos while I murdered everything

[rigid bay]

do u place his team on 2nd chamber?

lol automodded

[charred crag]

[rigid bay]

i saw that u did that

but for what again

[reef stump]

Thats curious

[rigid bay]

so personally batts

[charred crag]

Second chamber has triple kenki* so yeah

[rigid bay]

aint kenki on 1st chamber or am i being doodoohead rn

actually yeah whats the lineup again, i forgot alr

[spark aurora]

2nd

[reef stump]

second

sadly

[stray escarp]

it looks like mono geo is hovering around 40k DPS with KQM constraints

[spark aurora]

on 2nd half

[charred crag]

Nah first chamber is double vishaps

[rigid bay]

ah fuck

[reef stump]

makes speedrunning ultra cancer

[rigid bay]

[rigid bay]

[charred crag]

Sounds highly sus

[rigid bay]

very sus lol

[reef stump]

How is that bad again?

Thats the same as C0 Raiden comps basically

[rigid bay]

have u got C2 ZL by chance batt

[reef stump]

which is what I got from rough prelim ballparks aswell

[stray escarp]

it's definitely enough damage

[charred crag]

C1 sadly

[stray escarp]

but it's not top meta damage

[rigid bay]

ah, thats fine

[reef stump]

But C0 Raiden comps are top meta

[charred crag]

That is a such a nonsensical term in the first place lol

[rigid bay]

personally, the small dogs are non-issue because itto stagger pretty much makes it impossible for them to do anything to u plus they die in one Q rotation, heck, half more like

[stray escarp]

some page ayzel looked at said raiden national is 58k dps

[rigid bay]

the real issue is the big ones that corrode ur team wide HP over the course of the fight

[reef stump]

Grey had it at 40k.

[stray escarp]

really

[spark aurora]

dies in the first SCA combo for c1

[rigid bay]

did that actually happen to u

[spark aurora]

oh i meant them

[rigid bay]

oh

[reef stump]

But you can create VAST differences at KQM Standards depending on weapons, cons and refinements

[spark aurora]

[stray escarp]

well 40k is still well above current abyss DPS requirements and can easily be increased with better investment

[charred crag]

Tbf the standards are absolutely arbitrary and not indicative of individual player results in the first place

[rigid bay]

But yeah yesterday when I did the run on abyss to floor 12, on chamber 3 2nd half my itto team was on dying's breath

[stray escarp]

the standards are just there to be standard

[rigid bay]

i didnt lose anyone but it was definitely

somewhat stressful

[spark aurora]

my itto died in the middle of ruin guards cuz i fucked up

[rigid bay]

[charred crag]

Just saying the numbers that they vomit out don't actually end up meaning much in relation to in-game results

[spark aurora]

still got 9 star but i was sad i couldnt see itto beating their asses up

[rigid bay]

if built right ur itto should delete the ruin guard in one Q though, unless ur shielder broke

[reef stump]

That not anyway with limtied HP Polls, downtime and what not

[rigid bay]

and they did spin to win

[spark aurora]

yeah i messed up my zhong's E

[rigid bay]

sike

analyzed: skill issue

jk

[spark aurora]

[rigid bay]

to be fair on u

i kept accidentally using Q gorou as opener

and fuck up my entire rotation

fuckng hell why am i constantly logged out from my account in genshin, this is concerning.

is this normal?

[spark aurora]

no

[atomic sundial]

no

[rigid bay]

[reef stump]

I wouldn't jump the gun on Itto comp calcs. His comps won't be breaking any records but I'm fairly positive they should be meta level, even if on the lower end of that spectrum.

[rigid bay]

someone did break into my password manager and everything last time so i had all my credentials exposed

but i have since then transferred everything into a new email

and changed all passwords for critical services

[spark aurora]

[rigid bay]

yeah.

[charred crag]

Considering I swapped him away for a weaker carry and still trash abyss with 30+ seconds to spare on each chamber, I don't hold a lot of stock in chasing "meta" regardless. He's definitely more than strong enough to meet the highest challenges in the game.

And he's fun as hell, and throws a cow

[rigid bay]

i actually almost lost my account cuz my genshin password was changed but thankfully i was able to retrieve it back without losing anything inside

but it begged me the question;

how was there no verification?

[reef stump]

Chasing Meta is unnecessary in Genshin, yeah. Artifacts matter way more than running the best Team possible. Running the best Team jsut lowers minimum Gear necessary, which is a very temporary state.

[atomic sundial]

did you set up 2FA Xanrai

[rigid bay]

i have, yeah

[atomic sundial]

huh

[rigid bay]

so im befuddled myself

[reef stump]

I mean with perfect try harding I'd clear 12-2-2 both sides in like 35s

and I'm not even a dolphin

[ashen karma]

https://youtu.be/XVr4Fp3Np3M

[rigid bay]

perhaps my email being compromised allowed them to access it

[ashen karma]

C1 lets Itto do SCA9 right

[rigid bay]

thats why

[stray escarp]

for me it's less about how fast I can clear and more about how many mistakes I can make on my first attempt and still 36*

[rigid bay]

proceeds to fuck up the entire rotation from the get-go

[reef stump]

I'm pretty much well past that point by now. So the only real thing thats fun to me is seeing how hard I can demolish stuff

[stray escarp]

and that's why I've got 200+% ER on half my characters

[rigid bay]

i wonder if i should change my password again, hm.

[atomic sundial]

im still struggling with Itto rotation

guide when

[charred crag]

I'm an over invested mobile player and I enjoy the opposite of try harding, unga bunga spam haha

[rigid bay]

for me tbh its more of how much unga bunga fun i can have which is what itto exactly is to be honest

just concerned mihoyo would beef up abyss overtime

and my itto that was once easy unga bunga

gonna start to feel the effect

[reef stump]

Raiden speedruns are pretty unga bunga. Most of what you do is tailor your Support rot to time constraints which is smth thats more pre-planned that being all smart during combat

[rigid bay]

oh yeah, raiden's being rumored for rerun meanwhile me be like

"oh no, not this soon"

i did have plans on getting her but im still in the process of trying to grab hold of c6 gorou

[reef stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vFxozDMuPQ
I basically just press Q 4 times and then button mash till the win screen pops up with one mandatory dodge

[slender ibex]

you mean you need to log in every time you start the game? might have something to do with cookies

[rigid bay]

[charred crag]

I'm gonna try itto some more now that I got the easy 36* out of the way. He was fun on the new 11-3 with the specters and mimics lol

[rigid bay]

i didnt before, just started having to yesterday

so its getting me concerned if theres a breakin

[slender ibex]

as long as you're not being logged out while actually inside the game, it's normal

[rigid bay]

alright

[slender ibex]

do you change internet often

or devices

[rigid bay]

nope, i use my home internet

though we do turn it off occasionally

[slender ibex]

that might be the reason. i dont turn off mine and i still get logged out lol

[rigid bay]

goddam dank, c2?

[rigid bay]

hmm, alright then

[charred crag]

My genshin on mobile logs out all the time just changing tabs over to discord

[reef stump]

C1

[rigid bay]

ive just been on extremely high alert these days

because of the recent compromised emails and evrything

especially being a hair breath's away from actually losing my account

[rigid bay]

poggers

[slender ibex]

i have c2 but i dont clear that fast yeat lmao

ijust bring zhong for comfiness

[rigid bay]

do i need kazuha for a good raiden comp though

[slender ibex]

raiden-sara-benny-zhong

[rigid bay]

cuz i dont have her

and c0 sara

[reef stump]

I just like sacrificing Maguus to Raiden

[slender ibex]

lisa might be better if you dont have c6 sara? i dunno

[rigid bay]

[slender ibex]

im tempted to use lisa even if i have c6 sara

[reef stump]

He is optimal but you dont need him

I'd absolutely recommend him if you get the chance to get him though

[rigid bay]

hm

[slender ibex]

c2 raiden + c6 sara + 2 random units

[rigid bay]

oh dear that sounds expensive as someone who exclusively does geo

[reef stump]

I use Lisa as an actual Sub DPS atm since she is C5

[hot fjord]

sunfire jean comps are becoming more common with raiden from what I'm seeing

[reef stump]

11.5k Q ticks are sweet

[slender ibex]

is c6 sara always better htan lisa tho

for c2 raiden hypercarry comp

im tempted to pull for harp

[rigid bay]

just wait until theres a literal anemo char that takes element in and spew them in a violent gale surrounding yo-

oh wait kazuha

[reef stump]

Yep, its an incredibly solid Kazuha alternative

[slender ibex]

what for?

OL on the side?

[reef stump]

VV + off-field dmg

[hot fjord]

I literally just got Jean the other day so I'm planning to try it out, but I don't really want to have to level another iron sting/farm more EM VV gear to use kazuha on my other team

[reef stump]

via Pyro Swirls + OLs

[rigid bay]

it aint genshin impact if it aint grinding impact

[reef stump]

familiar issue

[slender ibex]

what grind? we just play 15-30 mins a day

[rigid bay]

[hot fjord]

yeah its just a feels bad if you have to level an EM scaling anemo unit to level 90 just to "try them out"

[reef stump]

yeah using the word grind for Genshin always struck me as odd

if only I could actually grind something of value in genshin

[rigid bay]

jokes aside, i might, might just reconsider my stance on getting non-geo character that relies on non-geo supports, as it struck to me that they'd need units i dont have access to outside the geo element under normal circumstances

[slender ibex]

just wait faster for resin to replenish

...

[rigid bay]

now that my ningguang lost ZL

life is a bit rough on her for her team

for abyss

[reef stump]

Having one Non-Geo Comp should be a good ivnestment though, since you can funnel all non-Geo Top End Supports into that Team and on the flipside funnel all the best Geo stuff intot he other

[slender ibex]

why arent a lot of people running melt ganyu

when kazuha made it easier

[rigid bay]

idk

[hot fjord]

the rotation with kazuha for melt ganyu is still kind of difficult for the average player

[reef stump]

Thats why I contemplated getting Itto for the reverse effect. Get another Team on the second half that doesn't compete for Raiden Supports

[slender ibex]

im tempted to get itto/xiao just for that

units with no flexibility in team comps but doesnt compete with important supports

[rigid bay]

on the other side of the mountain, that does mean needing to actually get the characters required though, which was both my main advantage and issue as a geo main;

I can save at a much better rate as there won't be too much geos coming all at once and I essentially ignore most non-geo new characters, at the cost of missed opportunity for not having great elemental characters for another team

[slender ibex]

oh wait. i have eula

[hot fjord]

we probably won't get another geo 5 star until sumeru

[rigid bay]

hey dont say that

i dont wanna wait for a whole year agian

LOOO

[hot fjord]

I expect a sandstorm waifu but we'll see

[slender ibex]

the smol geo unit?

[rigid bay]

i saw that automod

[slender ibex]

why is the L word banned

[rigid bay]

idk

i mean i can see it being used in a bad context

[reef stump]

Raiden and Kaz in particular would likely be long-term investments givne how strong they are

[rigid bay]

but well, it is what it is

[rigid bay]

yeah i could choose to pick up the best of the bunch out of everyone from the non-geo tree

[reef stump]

Pushing those out of the Meta would mean the current roster is dead

[slender ibex]

im kind of regretting not getting kokomi

im still using xq for ayaka freeze

[rigid bay]

bruh

hm, alright

i suppose i could open up my roster

and accept raiden and kazuha in

[slender ibex]

ooof no more friendship to level up. i finished the game i guess.

[rigid bay]

which inherently means abandoning the goal of getting c6 gorou in one go as i have to start saving now

and i have a guarantee

[reef stump]

Bennett Kaz pairing could also work with some Geo for grouping, since that duo is working on its own. And Raiden can be slotted almsot everywhere. So they mgiht also enhance some random Geo jank if you wanted to.

[rigid bay]

so i dont wanna get spooked by itto

not yet at least

[hot fjord]

Geo used to be my least favorite type of element in most fantasy games, but the geo character designs in genshin are just too good for how boring rocks are compared to ice queen powers

[rigid bay]

yeah, fair point, i suppose il try to get them soon then

[rigid bay]

imagine not loving geo element smh

[reef stump]

Ice in usual fantasy: Creative and diverse powers
Ice in Genshin: Bland Nukes

[rigid bay]

jk

[hot fjord]

Bland nukes and bland characters that autosimp traveler for no reason

[rigid bay]

well eula aint thankfully

but still kinda

urhruhghrghurhgurgh

at least her introduction was

[steep marsh]

earthbending in Avatar

[reef stump]

Its actually kinda funny how Cryo is jsut raw dmg in this game over CC and manipulation

[steep marsh]

I mean, technically we have Freeze

[reef stump]

Freeze is basically just an excuse to get 20% more CR

[steep marsh]

not wrong

ice is just hard water tho
so the Hydro Archon and the Cryo Archon are probably the same person

[reef stump]

I originally was contemplating getting Ayaka on the rerun but I didn't really enjoy her during the Event today

[rigid bay]

lol yeah geo in this game is pretty dank if you ask me, like every single one have an unique aspect or construct to play around with

[reef stump]

so not sure anymore

[hot fjord]

yeah I liked the aesthetics of the earth kingdom but not the earth bending itself, I was more into the water tribe personally but the hydro units in genshin don't really live up that gameplay fantasy

[reef stump]

if I really wanna bother unless speedrun plans

[rigid bay]

straight up drowning someone when

or better

[hot fjord]

She's the unit that bores me the most as time goes on

[rigid bay]

bloodbending

[steep marsh]

yup, using her today solidified my resolve to not get her

[reef stump]

using her on-field doesn't click for me, her CA is neat but the dodges make it feel kinda bad

[hot fjord]

I played sucrose taser for the first time in the trial and it was actually pretty fun

[rigid bay]

well

[hot fjord]

the dash was really nice for exploration when inazuma came out, but yeah it does get annoying after that

[rigid bay]

jinx did literally 9 star abyss with only

[reef stump]

If I were to get Ayaka she'd end up as a Q bot for sure

[rigid bay]

fischl and sucrose

[steep marsh]

tbf, most avatar characters dont really use a weapon to bend elements

[rigid bay]

oh yeah, ayaka's dash is a dank life saver for when u gotta do ocean travels

but on cliff ands hit?

oh god

[hot fjord]

true, I think the appeal is just in how fluid the animations are in that show compared to genshin where everything has to be kind of rigid and simplified because its a game

[reef stump]

I now have the Elevator Double Jump combo

just flying over water

[rigid bay]

lmao

[reef stump]

Albedo + Kazuha is jsut funny

[hot fjord]

I used to ignore the boat and just Ayaka dash around all of inazuma from island to island.. those were the days

[steep marsh]

true, Hydro kinda falls flat cause of its basic concept

[reef stump]

oh, yeah, thats nice

[rigid bay]

i still like to understand that ayaka honestly just want to be friends with traveler, and thats it tbh

tho she does give the energy of being

well,

very interested in the mc in other ways, ig

[reef stump]

They are mostly baiting anyway

bc Gacha

[rigid bay]

true

[stray escarp]

everything is bait

[rigid bay]

then again

inazuma as a whole

has been a mess anyway

at least the main storyline was

[reef stump]

It was evidently rushed and that is just very noticable

Altohugh I really liked the moments it had

[rigid bay]

yeah true

[reef stump]

I hope they rush less in future regions

[rigid bay]

that and just in general, its acceptable to have more than 2 patch worth of main story if u ask me

i really think inazuma could've been better if given proper spacing

not spacing, pacing i meant

[reef stump]

This game really doesnt need to chase every short-term profit

[rigid bay]

lmao

im fine with anything so long as muh geo peeps dont get powercrept thx

[spark aurora]

[rigid bay]

[hot fjord]

I just know that the sumeru waifu guantlet is gonna make me go into debt when the next region comes out

[rigid bay]

bold of u to assume i wont just sleep past them and woke when new geo detected

some people kept mentioning cyno might be geo but im hardly one to believe

[unique rover]

He looked pyro bcs pyro looking vision holder

[reef stump]

Oh, no you slept through Khaen'riah and Dainsleif rerun

[unique rover]

But what do I know, yunjin literally went geo anemo geo

[rigid bay]

god how jaded would i be for this game by then i wonder

[rigid bay]

literally what i wanted to say lol

at this point u cant trust a design character has

to be reflective of their elements

[reef stump]

Yunjin feels a bit awkward

general NA Support as Geo w/o defensive utility

[rigid bay]

its at an extreme points of difference, even

[unique rover]

Yunjin Xiao support

[rigid bay]

well she does have one, the counter mechanic lmao

tho id like to believe shes designed in mind for nationals

considering her ability

[reef stump]

They wanna try to go for rainbow comps

but the game doesnt have the means to do so atm really

bc energy is fucked

unless Raiden

and Raiden can't NA

[rigid bay]

[unique rover]

Rainbow comp literally only ever has res on self only

[reef stump]

Yunjin will find use for sure, but that rainbow aspect is just whatever

[rigid bay]

true i suppose

[unique rover]

Resonance wise

[reef stump]

Yoi gets 3 elements I guess

Would've been happier if Yunjin joined the Furry Fan Club

[rigid bay]

lmao

thinking over some decisions, as mentioned, i suppose c6 gorou honestly have to be held on pause for now

gonna try to save for raiden, if shes rumored for a real rerun

[reef stump]

2.4 should be pretty huge for Primos

Enka is huge from what it looks

[unique rover]

I just want ayato

[reef stump]

Lantenr Rite

[unique rover]

[rigid bay]

bold of u to assume il even explore 1% of it and not die

[unique rover]

Sad that crystallize even is rejected by 4tf

[rigid bay]

i havent even touched tsurumi island

LELELEL

[unique rover]

Dendro being just new rather than sumn good makes me doubt that geo will benefit from dendro

[hot fjord]

I would be disapointed if dendro doesn't have unique reactions with all the other elements

[rigid bay]

imagine it being

another self-contained element like geo is lol

since people mention it as 'new playstyle'

[unique rover]

Just make it react with geo with dmg and we're dandy

[rigid bay]

hopefully

[reef stump]

Gotta work for making your pulling schedule

[rigid bay]

but i dont wanna

lmfao

well, i have to try

[reef stump]

Just pretend you're taking Ushi for a walk

Dendro will be awkward

[rigid bay]

hah, sounds about right

[reef stump]

since current units are tuned around their current reaciton potential

[rigid bay]

yeah thats kinda the thing

[reef stump]

like the whole electro amp thing

give Raiden an amping reaction alright

1.1K ampable MV on steroids

The game is just gone

[rigid bay]

it might just be that they will do dendro to have a unique identity of its own rather than affecting or interacting much with the current elements

that would be boring personally

[unique rover]

I liked the idea of dendro amping electro

Until the day Raiden came

Soooo

[spark aurora]

kek

[unique rover]

[spark aurora]

dw, dendro wont be amping electro

[unique rover]

As it should

[rigid bay]

it would be so broken

it'd just

fry the servers

[spark aurora]

lisa dps

[reef stump]

I've seen whale speedruns on Triple Maguu where Raiden init slash was 800k+

[rigid bay]

thats...

[reef stump]

forward amp, some EM, C2 Kaz

2M Crit

oneshots Abyss Primo

[rigid bay]

much whales territory lmao

just waiting for the day a guild of some form is introduced

[rare zenith]

S a m e

[rigid bay]

so we could actually pair up much easier or communicate in game with a lot of people of the same mind

then again

it'd be more of a discu***on that would be

[reef stump]

Guild system would be great,yeah

[rigid bay]

too m**h to ask for

[unique rover]

Why are those censored

[reef stump]

Generally them doing more for the players would be great

[rigid bay]

Im jabbing the censorship system

[unique rover]

But nonetheless

[rigid bay]

[rigid bay]

yeah, heres hoping

[unique rover]

We need more sources of weapon/chars

[reef stump]

CONSTELLATION TOGGLE WHEN

[rigid bay]

a method to group up like minded people first and foremost

and after that,

GRINDABLE CONTENT

RAID

[reef stump]

endgame content, too good to be true

[unique rover]

Also mhy could have made enemies have naturally less res of geo/anemo because they don't have much sources of res

[reef stump]

Drops Maguu and Primo in your face

[unique rover]

[reef stump]

Its like when everyone was screaming Pyro Impact on launch

and then they released Dragon Spine

[rare zenith]

Ganyu?

[reef stump]

That, too

but was more like they release an entire area where Pyro is just too helpful

[rare zenith]

Ohh yeahh

[rigid bay]

mihoyo: INTRODUCING GEO KENKI AND MECHANICAL KENKI

[unique rover]

Now it's DefinitelyNotGeoNorXiao Impact

[reef stump]

Next Abyss cycle immediately back to bullying Geo again

Heralds + Primo

[spark aurora]

[charred crag]

Primo is fine with geo, heralds is kind of rough on floor 12 lol

[unique rover]

Also ppl are like they put less geo res on enemies to sell geo chars

Like THEY SHOULD

It's balance

[rigid bay]

dont remind me of the shit i have to face next abyss

[reef stump]

You can force past Primo Geo RES, yeah, but its still kinda funny

[rigid bay]

personally the abyss brothers are super easy to get past by, just really need that counter element

[reef stump]

They also really planted 3 World Bosses in F12 in a single cycle

[rigid bay]

the day they somehow get wolflord in

is the day i die

[reef stump]

Need to shill Shenhe and convince the world ST Cryo is the new fotm

[charred crag]

That guy is so jank, I have maybe 30% accuracy against him with ning lmao

[reef stump]

when its still jsut Ayayaya Q

[rigid bay]

also still remember when oceanid spawns were introduced into the abyss, their size was so fucking beefed up i literally got bodied the first time around

i couldnt see shit

[reef stump]

I did him once out of curiosity

and after seeing him not land

[rigid bay]

ah yes ayayaya and shenhehehehehe

[reef stump]

I just pressed Raiden Q

[rigid bay]

lmao

[reef stump]

bc Raiden is somehow a ranged DPS

[charred crag]

Ning shoots homing flying rocks but he doesnt like to be targetable lmao

Even a Benny TTDS setup doesn't work to oneshot him a lot of the time just because the rocks refuse to aim at him

[rare zenith]

Yeah I honestly do not know why it hates to be targeted against

[rigid bay]

having itto is pretty okay on the wolflord as his Q range can hit the guy even while flying

so yeah

logic

[charred crag]

I killed him enough to get 90 itto, not gonna touch him until I absolutely have to lol. Not even a hard fight just really annoying to whiff over and over

[reef stump]

Itto: Give up, I have the high Bonk!

[heavy elbow]

Im kinda wondering if chongyun's c2 can be abused at all with shenhe teams

[rigid bay]

lmao

[charred crag]

I can clear lector/herald with triple geo and a flex slot, I assume a pyro herald will doable with like... barb, even

[rigid bay]

also imagine being a treasure horder chucking dirt at...

the geo archon himself

u have to be extra stupid for this, my guy

[reef stump]

I kinda doubt it. Generally I don't see Shenhe really changing anything about Cryo teams

She is jsut gonna cheerlead Ayayaya and Ganyu on like everyone else

[rigid bay]

honestly i rather take the abyss brothers over fucking ruin monsters of any form

[heavy elbow]

the lectors are hydro pyro electro right? couldn't itto teams slot a chongyun and abuse his teamwide cryo infusion?

[rigid bay]

literally very chill to fight them

so long as u got the counter

[charred crag]

I did chongyun and zhong N4 cancels back when they were f12 yeah

[unique rover]

Itto can reach him high up for sum rzn

[rigid bay]

they have their name based on element;

Herald - Hydro
Lector - Electro
Victor - Pyro

i just call them

abyss brothers

since u dont really find them anywhere else

[charred crag]

Or c6 Benny for lector can solo easy

[rigid bay]

llol yeap

[charred crag]

I wonder how fast childe will be able to down the pyro shield

[rare zenith]

I feel like we'd see em in enkanomiya

[unique rover]

Apparently anemo is the swiftness and sht representation in gi

Yet I see none of them having cdr

Nor speed boosts

[charred crag]

I just hope they stop throwing enemies with large amounts of invulnerable phases and time-wasting attacks into abyss when there's a 3min shared timer. No more cubes please.

[unique rover]

And geo being the shielder of gi

Yet only have 1 1/2 shielder

[charred crag]

Eh

[rigid bay]

perhaps, have to see how goes id say

[rigid bay]

i mean im fine by that tbh, each and every geo characters that came so far always bring a different prospect of gameplay with them

and playing around the constructs or abilities they're granted

[unique rover]

They need to increase the strength of geo constructs or sumn

They are like wiped with only one hit

Ushi is the only one surviving

[rigid bay]

kek

speaking of which

when did yoi come again

2.1?

[unique rover]

2.0

[rigid bay]

was it?

[unique rover]

Yes I'm sure

[rigid bay]

huh

who came in 2.2 then?

im forgetting things

[unique rover]

No one

Thoma

[rigid bay]

oh right it was a rerun fest

with childe and all

[unique rover]

[charred crag]

https://streamable.com/pmkfde very sloppy, but I managed to make it to what I wanted to try out at least haha

[slate kestrel]

how much def itto need

[charred crag]

I was just wasting time in the beginning trying to get Itto's ult back up, didn't care about snapshotting etc

[patent galleon]

i mean id say you want at least 2k on his own before gorou buffs

[slate kestrel]

what abt atk and cd/ cr

[charred crag]

https://streamable.com/bd59ia the dmg is definitely there but wish I could avoid corrosion better.

[patent galleon]

you dont build for attack on him

you want Def > attack

[slate kestrel]

hmmm

so this is a good piece?

[patent galleon]

its ok

[atomic sundial]

its onset and geo

and has high def

[patent galleon]

until you get a better goblet with higher crit rolls

[atomic sundial]

i wouldn't say it's bad at all

it's just ok

[charred crag]

It's an on set geo cup so as long as it's letting you use a kickass offpiece it's fine

[slate kestrel]

how much cr/cd should a good itto have?

[patent galleon]

depends on ur weapon IMO

Itto scales with crit rate, so its easier to hit a decent ratio.

[unique rover]

100:200 is the only correct way

[slate kestrel]

what wep is good for him?

[patent galleon]

his signature or Serpent spine are the best

[unique rover]

Whiteblind serpentspine redhorn

[patent galleon]

whiteblind if ur F2P

[unique rover]

Increasing order

[slate kestrel]

serpentspine is

gacha?

[patent galleon]

BP

[unique rover]

It is battle pass weapon

[slate kestrel]

ah

R5 whiteblind or R1 sepent spine

[unique rover]

Spine

[slate kestrel]

hmm i see

[unique rover]

I'm suddenly seeing Noelle c6 > itto c0

Hmmm

[patent galleon]

in what way?

[unique rover]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIN02ORUguQ

Comments

[patent galleon]

[unique rover]

Me

[patent galleon]

you honestly shouldnt be looking at YT comments, easy way to lose braincells

[unique rover]

True

But I really can't ignore sht bcs...

They are sht

[patent galleon]

id understand the argument for Noelle> Itto for comfort, maybe even AoE to some extent.

[unique rover]

Add that with the argument of kokomi is just a crit less barbara

UGH

And the thing is

Ccs are the ones giving the wrong info

[rare zenith]

Yeah I just saw that comment

Wtf

Good luck using barbara in sukokomon

[unique rover]

AHHHHH it's just infuriating u know

Bcs u can't even explain it to them bcs they won't understand it

[rare zenith]

I honestly blame CCs for info I have to drill out from newbies when I try to help them

[rare zenith]

"you're wrong bc CC said so"

I think they have a responsibility to get accurate information, people who theorycraft usually do it in public spaces anyway

So it's not like it's impossible to research

I know it's like hard to get a complete view, but even smth more general is acceptable if it's accurate

[languid linden]

[unique rover]

Can we like

Tag some ppl as

Unreliable or sumn

[analog obsidian]

Hmm

[unique rover]

Like the reddit sht with leaks

[rare zenith]

A site talking about and detailing genshin CCs?

[unique rover]

No

Like their posts are tagged as sumn like that

It's hypothetical and a joke btw

[rare zenith]

Yeah lol no witch-hunts pls

[atomic sundial]

they're just spreading the misinfo for clicks and comments tbf

if someone makes a video with a thumbnail 'ITTO IS SHIT' people will come in and watch the video to listen to the argument and then comment against it

[languid linden]

lol that why I hate youtuber with content like that

[unique rover]

The way I like their content pre release

Then the release drops

So as my interest to them

[onyx junco]

isnt this the same guy who said c0 kazuha was underwhelming and that c0 ayaka was underwhelming too?

[unique rover]

I have no idea about their history

[slate kestrel]

def or atk sands for itto

[patent galleon]

EM

[unique rover]

Def

[languid linden]

🤣

[solar leaf]

ER, didn't you hear Itto has energy issues?

Yeah it's Def

[unique rover]

Yeah

Like he needs 300% er

Can't even be usable

Just use Noelle because she can swap

[languid linden]

nah 120% ER is good for my itto

[unique rover]

No I'm just kidding

I use 105% er and I'm still doing fine

But 120%-140% is better

[analog obsidian]

Non 300% er itto user fucking cringe

[solar leaf]

You don't need ER if you 1 rotate the enemies

[onyx junco]

nah bruh no ER, just get c2

[unique rover]

Right?

[languid linden]

[unique rover]

U haven't heard?

He still needs like 200% even after c2

[languid linden]

u want itto become next raiden?

[onyx junco]

[unique rover]

I feel like I'm becoming the false info spreader

[solar leaf]

Wow wow wow

[unique rover]

[onyx junco]

he will need raiden boys 🤣

[solar leaf]

He's not that strong

[languid linden]

yea that for you but not for me

😌

[unique rover]

Slay

[solar leaf]

Strong enough is not thing, strongest char in the game is another

[patent galleon]

tbh im still personally impressed with his AoE at times tho

i really wasn't expecting it to be very good with how vertical it looked

even Ushi has AoE somehow

[analog obsidian]

Ushi nuke is best nuke

[languid linden]

I'm not saying itto is the strongest but his CA always nice to see

[onyx junco]

tbh i think his aoe is just perfect, you just have to position yourself a bit and you are hitting a lot of enemies

[unique rover]

Imagine dying just bcs a cow arrived

[languid linden]

is mental therapy for me lol

[patent galleon]

i mean yeah its not brainless AoE, but still. from the beta clips alone it didnt look that impressive, like the vertical swings were just enough to hit floating/flying enemies and a few tightly grouped mobs.

i figured he would be mostly ST focused like Hu Tao's CA's

[languid linden]

idk why after itto burst the dmg on ushi like a nuke

[unique rover]

A cow having bigger damage than a whole meteor

Is

[patent galleon]

Ushi scales with ur attack at the time of cast

Itto during Q has like 4k+ attack

like Hu tao's Burst in and out of her E form

[analog obsidian]

Big dmg

Ushi goes from nice one shotting hilichurl dmg to the reason why I can't do a full combo

[patent galleon]

its one of the reasons watching Streamers play Itto day 1 was kinda triggering

everyone kept using Ushi outside of his Q and then saying shit like "his skill seems meh/bad"

[languid linden]

that me at first time see ushi like E ganyu

[slate kestrel]

rate my itto

geo gob + whitblind r5

lvl 80 whitblind unascended + lvl 80 itto unascended

[thick flame]

[slate kestrel]

so a yes?

[trim willow]

ER is slightly low. But depends on your team I guess

[slate kestrel]

albedo zongli, itto gorou

is it good?

[trim willow]

Are you able to have your ult up on cool down?

[slate kestrel]

hmm

kinda

[trim willow]

Should be fine. Once you ascend the crit will be better

[slate kestrel]

ah ty

[unique rover]

Some even try to gain stacks on ult even if they are c1+

[smoky rose]

Where can i find c1 Itto combos ?

[red umbra]

since when did raiden c0 become that

[languid linden]

i think c1 itto while his burst can do CA 8 times + using E skill

[storm tulip]

I think the only concern you should have on c6ing a character when that is not something you should usually do is how fun you have playing them, and that usually answers itself between now and his rerun

Because new characters being stronger is eventually a given what matters more is when current character you like playing starts struggling to clear content which I dont see happening anytime soon for c0 itto let alone c6

[storm tulip]

Also this is 100% fine, since corrosion doesnt straight up kill you off field all that matters is the character that is active sustaining through it

[storm tulip]

I consider gorou as a second full one for non geo main dps tbh, triple EM crystallize can keep you shielded for the most part due to his defense buff, especially if you are using with albedo for heo resonance on that comp

Between the shield strength from geo res, the extra em from albedo and his own defense buff, gorou can keep you fully shielded through crystallize

(And if you only care about being shielded and not albedo damage too much you can use 4pc ToM on albedo for extra tankiness)

But geo teams really need more shielders, i hate that we dont have any dedicated ones apart from zhongli

Also we just got 3 new geo chars and none of them can shred either defense or geo resistance, that is another issue in its entirety

[unique rover]

i cant 9 star abyss with my geo team yet

i still need to have better artifacts with albedo since he literally only has 11% cr

if i pre farm energy maybe it will perform better

[steep marsh]

Im getting kinda pissed at Albedo

Cause most of the time Itto pushes enemies out of the flower range

[unique rover]

true...

can they make albedo flower on top of itto's head

[heavy elbow]

i saw someone do a play where they positioned albedo's flower in front of itto's charge attack chain.
so when they finished their chain on the flower, and they snuck in a plunge :p

[unique rover]

Would it be worth it

[slate kestrel]

where does itto rank on dps list?

[brave crow]

there's no such list

[dapper bramble]

its a taboo word

[storm tulip]

top of fun tier

[analog obsidian]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/rioq6k/dvalin_you_dont_need_to_climb_with_itto/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

This is just ridiculous

[steep marsh]

LMAO

[analog obsidian]

I tested it for myself and it fucking hits

[steep marsh]

this dmg looks right for a 8/8/8 SS R1 Itto right?

[patent galleon]

whats ur gorou E at?

[steep marsh]

11

[patent galleon]

seems fine

for only R1 SS

id def recommend refinements on it in the future tho

becomes alot stronger

[steep marsh]

oh, btw, do we have a optimal C1 combo already?

[rigid bay]

Not that I know of already but there's been a few variations coming personally from people who've used him

Including my own where it's just;

Q > E > SCA5 > N3 > SCA4 > E > SCAF

It's a tight fit combo where the ult ends right as you finish SCAF

[frosty ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874887484553707530/921674368055148604/unknown.png