#Itto Thread
rigid bay
Full rolls to CR and CDMG on all husk, trust lmao
though all jokes aside, a month of farm should grant u pretty decent set
except u will definitely want to off piece ur geo goblet
cuz that shit is gonna be a pain in the arse
rigid bay
i guess i took like 5 days to do boss
so the rest of resin until today is all domain
- 14 fragiles
ive shown u my set right?
im sure you'll get somewhere close pretty easily eventually
unique rover
My flowers stinky af
unique rover
And I don't have any Def sands yet
unique rover
G4u
rigid bay
3k defense
unique rover
rigid bay
OMEGALUL
literally his defense is so souped up from artifact effect and the cinnabar
but yeah
just have faith
rng will come yer way
eventually
rigid bay
have a gn sleepz
tiny flint
OK so I have R1 SS for Itto
And no albedo
I was wondering in that case, what would be a good team for him 
lament hazel
Itto and gorou
whole juniper
OK so I have R1 SS for Itto
And no albedo
I was wondering in that case, what wou...
Do you have ZL?
tiny flint
I do
lament hazel
Mono geo comp
tiny flint
And hopefully I'll get a couple Gorou since I'm planning to throw around 180 pulls on the banner
lament hazel
Get yunjin
tiny flint
Yunjin doesn't really seem like she'd fit a mono geo team
ancient pecan
yunjin fits in mono geo but with noelle, not itto
ancient pecan
if you have ZL you can go the microwave route with itto, gorou, ZL and geo MC
lament hazel
Or albedo
ancient pecan
or you can just add another low field time subdps/buffer instead of the MC but he just fits too well in that comp imo
tiny flint
No Albedo, and I'm not gonna go for him
Didn't enjoy his play style or looks tbh
ancient pecan
if you have albedo then yes, that's probably the best comp
but iirc they said they don't have him so 
lament hazel
No Albedo, and I'm not gonna go for him
Didn't enjoy his play style or looks tbh
He can do 10k+ dmg
ancient pecan
in this kind of comp he should be doing 20k+ dmg 
whole juniper
What's the point of geo MC tho? Is it purely for the 10% crit/energy regen? Because I find him to be pretty much the clunkiest and most frustrating character in the game
lament hazel
Yea
ancient pecan
What's the point of geo MC tho? Is it purely for the 10% crit/energy regen? Beca...
10% crit, big damage on rocks and burst, amplifies ZL's damage via construct resonance
and some energy
lament hazel
And blocks enemies
ancient pecan
but not everyone likes geo MC playstyle so you can probably replace him with another character
lament hazel
Geo mc too good to replace man
whole juniper
Also Itto with SS already has more than 50% non-artefact crit. Wouldn't it be better to flex a non-geo character for shield breaking, that can do the same stuff? Fischl for example
ancient pecan
if you have to break a shield then ofc the flex slot should be a counter element
lament hazel
Yeah you can do raiden
whole juniper
I am genuinely asking, not trying to advice - I don't have ZL
tiny flint
Well I was thinking maybe Itto, ZL, Geo MC or C4 Ning and Bennett?
lament hazel
Bennett nah
whole juniper
Because geo MC to me is just somebody who puts up a ton of shit that gets in your way when trying to deal with enemies to gain 10% crit rate
tiny flint
If I get C4 Gorou I'd use that but
Ow no healer
lament hazel
You got shield
tiny flint
Sure but bleed
lament hazel
Hmmm
ancient pecan
tbh if you're running ZL and geo MC in the same team benny is worth considering because he also buffs the microwave portion of the team
tiny flint
The lack of a designed Geo healer is annoying ngl
ancient pecan
noelle 
but she's also a on field dps
lament hazel
Gorou c6
tiny flint
Noelle isn't much of a healer tbh
whole juniper
Noelle has to stay on-field to heal
lament hazel
Noelle a much of a healer tbh
tiny flint
Noelle a much of a healer tbh
Eh?
ancient pecan
yea
if you want a healer with itto you're kinda forced to go outside geo
lament hazel
You do spin move and heal your allies 😎
tiny flint
Yup
I suppose Jean with a noblesse oblige works?
ancient pecan
if i really really wanted a healer in itto comp i would go with diona and drop ZL
but this is feelscrafting at this point, not sure if losing ZL geo shred hurts team dps more than replacing another character for a healer
lament hazel
I dont really need healing if i have zhongli
whole juniper
Why not Itto/Gorou/ZL/healer (Bennett or Diona)?
tiny flint
I dont really need healing if i have zhongli
Sure without bleed
With bleed it's risky as fuck
lament hazel
I can dodge
ancient pecan
doggos will eat you alive eventually
they can even apply corrosion through burst iframes for some reason
tiny flint
Why not Itto/Gorou/ZL/healer (Bennett or Diona)?
That was my idea yes
tiny flint
I can dodge
Dodging is a dps loss tho
whole juniper
I can dodge
If you can dodge everything you don't need shields either >_>
lament hazel
Dodging is a dps loss tho
Dodging makes you not lose hp tho
whole juniper
That was my idea yes
I've decided to run Itto/Gorou/Ning/Diona at least since I don't have ZL. Having ZL instead of Ning just seems like that comp but a ton better in every way
tiny flint
Maybe you're a god of dodging but personally I can't dodge everything
whole juniper
Like they say in speedruns: HP is a resource.
lament hazel
Yeah ning quickswap would be good
ancient pecan
winning at 1hp counts the same as winning at full hp
lament hazel
Still W
tiny flint
I've decided to run Itto/Gorou/Ning/Diona at least since I don't have ZL. Having...
Hmm my idea was Itto/Ning/ZL/Bennett tbh
Gorou's burst cost is 80 and Itto's cost is also high. ZL is a terrible battery lol, and not sure those two can fund themselves alone.
ancient pecan
but anyways
if you're playing with ZL/shielder already
i had good results with prototype amber as a team healer
it's not the best healing in the world but it's enough to heal corrosion
whole juniper
Hmm my idea was Itto/Ning/ZL/Bennett tbh
Gorou's burst cost is 80 and Itto's cos...
I mean the reason I run Diona is because I want a shield. You have ZL, so Bennett should be better for you
tiny flint
<:A_ThinkTao:808987776073596929> but anyways
if you're playing with ZL/shielder ...
O h wait I hadn't considered that
Proto on Ning 
ancient pecan
the problem with benny is that he only heals on field character so it's kinda awkward
specially when itto doesn't want to switch once he bursts
tiny flint
the problem with benny is that he only heals on field character <:A_HuLay:813064...
Eh if it ever gets that bad I have a fully built Jean
I can swap Bennett for Jean then
ancient pecan
jean is overkill imo
maybe try with prototype malice ning first 
during early game she was my healer with that setup 
or mona, depending on what i needed
TTDS is overrated 
teal sable
wtf is prototype malice
reef stump
wtf is prototype malice
old name for Prototype Amber. They changed the names for some of the craftable weapons at some point
whole juniper
Would Beidou with R1 Favonious be viable for fourth spot in Itto/Gorou/Ning?
Realized I do have it after all
cold briar
that still sounds like an ER nightmare
reef stump
Would Beidou with R1 Favonious be viable for fourth spot in Itto/Gorou/Ning?
Not sure about the R1 Fav consistency but generally Fav Beidou can act as a decent shielder/Crystallize enabler in an Itto Comp.
Still gotta stuff her with a metric ton of ER though
ancient pecan
yep but maybe it can work
give her a real weapon with good base ATK and build 4p petra gorou and maybe it's kinda worth it? with 4p EoSF to help with ER
reef stump
Beidou's dmg suffers tremendously in any case. Its more for the shielding than her as a legitimate Sub DPS for the most part
Iirc her ER reqs were around 230%
whole juniper
Might just stick to Diona then
ancient pecan
i remember playing a similar setup with 200% ER in a noelle comp
whole juniper
If it's mainly for shielding anyway
reef stump
Diona has worse uptime than Beidou but can heal a little
whole juniper
I'll start with Diona, she's kinda built already
My Beidou has zero investment
Man I'm glad it's Itto we have to get to 90 and not Gorou - the mechanical array thing is such an annoying fight
red umbra
idk i think wolflord is just as bad
magic wharf
Oh god, it’s the mechanical array? I farmed up 27 of the Kenki instead for Gorou
I guess I can level my Sayu now??
well save those for kazuha
magic wharf
I glanced at them on Honey and saw that they were circular and assumed Kenki, I’m blind basically
spark aurora
dw i also farmed for kenki 
i noticed several weeks ago tho, so im fine on that department
somber sandal
reef stump
15% dmg bonus isn't exactly a crazy amount of value by itself
But he is already very usable at A4 T6
whole juniper
Nah but I mean until you have time/energy to farm him, he doesn't require a ton of investment
whole juniper
So, timezones and stuff - in how many hours from now is he out?
real phoenix
So, timezones and stuff - in how many hours from now is he out?
they don't come out at the same time
whole juniper
Oh.
real phoenix
rigid bay
Yeah, 2nd banner always depends on which server you play in
whole juniper
O woah that sucks, so it's actually not until tuesday evening for everybody?
rigid bay
Alternatively, if you spot me around
whole juniper
I thought it was gonna be morning 😦
whole juniper
why do they do us like that tho 😦
reef stump
why do they do us like that tho 😦
It has always been like that for Mid Patch Banners
whole juniper
shows how few characters I've actively pulled for in this game heh
languid linden
poor NA player waiting much longer
real phoenix
poor NA player waiting much longer
i mean it makes sense, NA gets updates "a day" earlier
charred crag
Got everything in order for 90 itto and 70/80 gorou, still only have 2/5ths of itto's artis though rip. 230 wishes to burn for gorou c6. Good luck on your cons 
nocturne sorrel
230 wishes is a lot of barbaras
analog obsidian
Enough Barbaras can turn into wishes for more barbaras 
dapper bramble
i know hakushin ring is bad because various reasons, but if i give it to lisa on itto gorou zl comp, can she proc the passive? since the holder need to proc right, but crystalize is geo doing the reaction instead.
reef stump
i know hakushin ring is bad because various reasons, but if i give it to lisa on...
Nope, she can't since players can't apply a Geo Aura thus Lisa can't trigger a reaction in an otherwise Geo only Team.
But even if it worked Hakushin's Buff duration would be very lackluster for Itto to even use.
dapper bramble
yeah. and doesnt even proc off field. mohoyo~
patent hull
If i dont need a shield to break, is it ok if i use full geo itto albedo gorou zhongli??
I am using dugtrio but i feel vulnerable without zhongli LOL
little quiver
If i dont need a shield to break, is it ok if i use full geo itto albedo gorou z...
That's going to be one of the most stable comp after next patch as long as zl shield is all you need, or if C4 can offset corrosion bleed enough to finish stages, gorou+zl is a lot of buff for itto
patent hull
That's going to be one of the most stable comp after next patch as long as zl sh...
Niceee
Wait a sec do u think there might be an issue with geo constructs? Is gorou considered a construct?
storm tulip
Wait a sec do u think there might be an issue with geo constructs? Is gorou cons...
no, gorou's is not a consruct
low valve
im sorry if this has been asked before but
on an itto comp with gorou and zhongli
would gmc or emc be better fit for fourth?
rigid bay
You'd be better off with GMC for the same element particle distribution, as EMC doesn't exactly do a great job by himself, and he can help Zhongli resonation pulse expand further
Speaking in the context of comparison only for the two
rigid bay
my zhongli c1 Always useless xD
Not really. While his energy generation is RNG, having two pillars on field is still better than one as it does help alleviate the issue of the team comp being energy hungry at certain times as it just contributes particles without you needing to do anything other than ensuring that the pulses hits the enemies. It is true that it's not much of a DPS contribution, but it's still far better than nothing and might just feed Itto that one last particle he'd needed to hit Q again.
The two scenarios where it could be instead detrimental is when you accidentally climb on it, or playing as Ningguang.
In the rotation time of 20s for Itto's dugtrio comp, if all 10 pulses manages to hit an enemy, there's a fair chance you've been fed at least 3-4 particles over that time, and doubling the pillar count only serves to multiply said particle.
Of course, it's best to assume worst case scenario, so cut that by half, and assume only one pillar even manage to exist at a time due to rotation constriction, then yes, I will agree it is barely anything much. Even so, by then it wouldn't even be about C1 itself anymore.
trim pumice
What's the DMG per bloom a well built Albedo should be doing with Gorou?
Not an Itto-related question but it does have to do with dugtrio
teal sable
is baals energy from her skill rng too
either way, i find them both to produce particles regularly and my zhongli usually has his burst up as soon as the cooldown is over
storm tulip
The two scenarios where it could be instead detrimental is when you accidentally...
You have to have some very shitty placement to have it be detrimental for ning
storm tulip
You are way more likely to get fucked over by abyss walls than zhong's pillars
patent hull
Not really. While his energy generation is RNG, having two pillars on field is s...
Thanks for the explanation
rigid bay
I suppose rather than outright detrimental, I should reword it more like as you'd need to be mindful of where you use your Q as Ningguang if there's Zhong's pillars nearby
Through no own fault of my allies, I've seen so many Ninggs ult while hugging my pillars
And just see the pebbles poof
storm tulip
Usually hugging is fine though
As long as pillar is in front of you
On your side it is a different story but that is dumb
rigid bay
The problem is my playstyle incorporates putting my pillar side by side together with a space in between
Most of Ningguang I see like to snuggle between that space
and ult
storm tulip
Usually if you are facing the enemy right behind a pillar there will never be a collision with the stele
rigid bay
Depends, to be honest, I know even by myself I occasionally clip a bunch of my own stones
But for general consistency, I just ult a few steps away from the pillars just in case
It's mostly the stones coming from the jade banner really I'd like to think, but by that point, I just try not to see the clipping stones so I don't get reminded how shite I am sometimes
storm tulip
It is the same as normal attacking with ning pretty much
You can stand behind a stele and normal attack and since the normals split when they home they will go around the pillar, when this happens the Q will also do the same, basically a very safe way to see if ning's Q will hit a target correctly is to normal attack with her first (not always in AoE scenarios since they pick different targets, but they also are way more likely to all hit their targets in AoE anyways)
rigid bay
Yeah, that's one way to do it
Meanwhile my 2 AM brain: CA behind a Stele pillar thinking I'm doing one NA
storm tulip
whole juniper
At least you get him first
low valve
At least you get him first
im on asia server but ill be at work 
whole juniper
The sads are big
I meanwhile am free from work tomorrow, but won't get him until 6 PM because europe
spark aurora
spark aurora
im on asia server but ill be at work <:A_HuCry:791398917869928496>
cant pull on phone?
whole juniper
Because let's not release things during the early morning like every other game does
low valve
cant pull on phone?
my phone isnt strong enough
whole juniper
he's a big boi after all
needs proper processing power to pull him out of the aether
rigid bay
Then again
It's always been at set times for each server, the release of 2nd banner that is
For the server I play in, Asia, it's 6PM local time give or take, with little difference depending on country
Granted I'm like 3 hours ahead
So for me it'll be...
9PM.
spark aurora
22 hours left
dapper bramble
any idea when genshin optimizer will update itto/gorou?
rigid bay
Just have to wait till they do
dapper bramble
storm tulip
Because let's not release things during the early morning like every other game ...
It makes sense for their marketing strategy to be honest, gotta leave last chances for impulse pulls on the last day of a banner
red umbra
would gmc or emc be better fit for fourth?
if your itto is C2, i think electro mc with a favonius sword is better. you get to take full advantage of itto's CD reduction and zhongli/gorou aren't burst dependent to do their job in this comp. However if you have C0 itto i don't think he provides that much over geo MC/C2 ning because you'd just be waiting for itto's cd to be over by the time he's charged up
storm tulip
any idea when genshin optimizer will update itto/gorou?
Usually they have been putting chars up within the first week of release, itto/gorou are defense scaling and I know it took a while for them to update albedo, zhongli noelle correctly originally so they might take longer, but that shouldnt be too much of an issue now
reef stump
Is the game trying to tell me something?
frigid hound
Yes feed it
hybrid relic
use it on gorou
reef stump
Game telling me to use Exile Gorou smh
hybrid relic
I mean its not bad. you reduce like 9 % ER requirement on itto
but NO is probably gonna be better
reef stump
Technically speaking, if you could replace like 2 ER rolls due to Exile that would be very compettive with NO with regards to Itto, but ofc you also have Gorou dealing less dmg but that will also feel like rounding error range anyway.
Should be a very small difference in any case
storm tulip
you do always get less ER on gorou though
you either lose some crit chance to proc fav or lose some personal ER stats, and then substats on top
and gorou is actually the harder one to battery of the 2
even if he can run ER for "free"
i mean in a min maxing situation
glad mango
Is 130% ER good for Itto?? I mean I might farm for more since his crit ratio is pretty bad (59 : 114) as for now
reef stump
Is 130% ER good for Itto?? I mean I might farm for more since his crit ratio is ...
In Triple Geo that should be the correct ballpark but given the Crit Ratio it definitely can't hurt to farm more since that Crit Ratio isn't very thrilling on a Crit Ascension Unit
whole juniper
Oh right I haven't even thought about this until now: is 10 mil mora enough for Itto and weapon to lvl 90 and Gorou to level 60+?
reef stump
Oh right I haven't even thought about this until now: is 10 mil mora enough for ...
Yes
reef stump
Should have a few million left, yeah
Iirc Level 90 8/8/8 + weapon was like 3 million?
So even if you triple corwn its like 5M
and Gorou to A4 T6 is definitely less than a million
storm tulip
So even if you triple corwn its like 5M
90 +triple crown is 7 million mora
reef stump
90 +triple crown is 7 million mora
It was that much? Then maybe I've been mixing up some figures
storm tulip
Around 2 million for lvl 1 to 90, 5 million for the talents, but purely just 9/9/9 is only 3 million mora for talents
The 3 crowns are 2.1 million total
spark aurora
how tight is 120 er on itto for dugtrio?
reef stump
Ah right Triple 8 -> 10 is 3.5M
storm tulip
Yeah
reef stump
how tight is 120 er on itto for dugtrio?
Who is the 4th slot?
spark aurora
most likely fischl
reef stump
That might be a bit tight in low enemy particle environments
spark aurora
ic
reef stump
ic
Looks like this. With 0 enemy particles its about 10% higher on everyone.
So 130-140% would likely be your goal for general consistency
If you just plow through a floor with a decent bunch of enemies or like Ruin stuff 120% is enough though
spark aurora
i can probably fix it in a few weeks, i have an ER heavy offset geo goblet
gotta find a good cr rate circlet
patent hull
Is dugtrio only better than oven ushi if gorou is c6
charred crag
Are we already making up new team names?
rigid bay
Well, oven ushi is essentially microwave geo team, but with Itto added
Pretty happy with my current ratio for Itto to be honest. The ER is on slightly lower side at 120%, but I do have a 91/155 CR/CD anyhow. My DEF timepiece certainly needs improvement.
Plan to try and have Itto be my first unit to have over 200 CDMG. It's not gonna be easy without a CDMG weapon, but I'll get there given time.
charred crag
Still lacking a HooD CD hat and a decent def sands :(
rigid bay
Yeah those two are painful to farm. Can't bruteforce with the amount as much either as you do have to find right main stat as well.
analog obsidian
Just used 10 condensed on the domain
rigid bay
rigid bay
mine rn atm
analog obsidian
Nutty
rigid bay
All atk
oh dear 
i assume you've been farming for roughly
a week from the volume you've got
analog obsidian
Since the domain existed
rigid bay
charred crag
Been farming outside of getting the 46 boss mats for itto
rigid bay
i guess i got lucky tbh, cuz i farmed like 5 days after, since i had to do boss
charred crag
Have a passably mediocre set for albedo
analog obsidian
I did boss at first and then domain
analog obsidian
At least you got Def sands
charred crag
Same boat but 2800+ def lol
rigid bay
true 
analog obsidian
My gorou stuff is pretty much done
rigid bay
my albedo's at 3k, tho i think thats with buff or some shit
analog obsidian
Nob for some reason rolled pretty good
rigid bay
i deadass am just ignoring gorou's for now
then again im sure i have some stockpiles of noblesse pieces atm
or just go full rainbow set since NO set wont make that much difference to the team anyway
until i get a proper set
analog obsidian
I already searched some pieces for gorou,donno if I wanna change his hat for crit for fav
rigid bay
kek
pretty pog 4 base sub NO feather
except this is gonna go on gorou
oh flower* lol my blind ass
analog obsidian
I fuckin hate this domain
Second to cw
After I'm done i'ma just strongbox all of the other one's
rigid bay
what, the noblesse?
rigid bay
oh
yeah the enemies are pretty tanky as hell
my fastest time with it is literally 40 seconds
analog obsidian
Idm I clear them in 1 minute and a half,CW takes 2 whole minutes
Fastest I've gotten is like 50 seconds
rigid bay
oh yeah CW can go fuck itself lol
analog obsidian
Just raiden national with husk domain
rigid bay
im just going
ningguang zhongli bennett venti
throw my best chars in and hope they die quick-comp
analog obsidian
If I get redhorn out of fucking nowhere my crit issue is settled
Coz I got a pretty good crate hat but cdmg one is garbo
rigid bay
same for me as well tbh
it'd be much easier to build up crit rate with so much at play
so having cdmg weapon would be nice
plus my decently dank crt hat
analog obsidian
My problem atm is feather and sands
Feather is meh
Sands just don't exist
Best Def one I got have the subs as er
No crit
Best substat on it is er
analog obsidian
If this game literally removes one layer of rng it would be heaven
Just let us choose which artifact on the domain
Or make it change artifact every 2 days
reef stump
For the day I'll have an Off-Set Feather 
rigid bay
except that'd make mihoyo mald
reef stump
Rerolling Artifact Mainstats for a currency or even a ton of Artifact EXP would be so nice
analog obsidian
except that'd make mihoyo mald
Giving players better rng is gonna cost them like half of their company's worth and annual income
rigid bay
Rerolling Artifact Mainstats for a currency or even a ton of Artifact EXP would ...
maybe even teapot currency for once per week 'item' that resets one artifact
rigid bay
Giving players better rng is gonna cost them like half of their company's worth ...
precisely tbh
analog obsidian
If I didn't hit hard pity everytime and lose every 50/50 mhy gonna go bankrupt
rigid bay
well id guess its more of 'forced player retention'
for those that tryna maximize their rolls
lament hazel
You guys gonna pull for itto?
analog obsidian
If mhy let us choose which artifacts to farm they'll get more players tbh
rigid bay
I certainly will, yes
analog obsidian
You guys gonna pull for itto?
It's a goddamn itto thread tf you think we're here for
rigid bay
lament hazel
🤣
spark aurora
lament hazel
rigid bay
analog obsidian
Expensive
analog obsidian
Tomorrow itto woooo
reef stump
I've done a lot of Itto TC but I don't even know if I'll get him
lament hazel
When albedo banner gone?
analog obsidian
I have 90 for character banner and 10 for weapon banner
lament hazel
90?
analog obsidian
When albedo banner gone?
In like 27 hours for me
lament hazel
Lets get it
rigid bay
but yeah 1st banner disappears 2 hours before 2nd
lament hazel
Imma try pull gorou
analog obsidian
I got 10k to spare if I somehow don't get him
analog obsidian
Or just make a poll for ppl to choose which banner I'll pull on with those
analog obsidian
10k wishes??
Primos
lament hazel
Ahh
reef stump
but yeah 1st banner disappears 2 hours before 2nd
There shouldn't be a gap anymore between Banners, they removed that
analog obsidian
Ye
ornate moss
cope for itto? i got good crit dmg pieces and i'm going for redhorn 
lament hazel
There shouldn't be a gap anymore between Banners, they removed that
Only with patches i believe
rigid bay
There shouldn't be a gap anymore between Banners, they removed that
oh wait have they?
analog obsidian
cope for itto? i got good crit dmg pieces and i'm going for redhorn <:Hmmge:9067...
Very cope
lament hazel
oh wait have they?
Yeah
ornate moss
There shouldn't be a gap anymore between Banners, they removed that
oh that's pretty cool if they have
analog obsidian
<:Thonk:349019578451361794>
Yea,for quite some time already
reef stump
cope for itto? i got good crit dmg pieces and i'm going for redhorn <:Hmmge:9067...
Its fine, eventually you wanna have one with CD, but its a good start
analog obsidian
Let me have fucking Def sands mhy
ornate moss
well most of my other pieces have 28+ cdmg, so i was wondering
lament hazel
Let me have a good def sands
ornate moss
but i'll def keep going, thanks 
analog obsidian
I just need Def sands in general
ornate moss
if only it was crate and def% 
lament hazel
All my substat when to flat def
analog obsidian
What the fuck
rigid bay
and you're just rubbing the salt in the wound
ornate moss
LOL
ornate moss
wishing you guys the best of luck too
analog obsidian
Big mad
rigid bay
lament hazel
All itto wanters will be itto wanters
ornate moss
hahaha
lament hazel
Havers*
rigid bay
fight me bitch
ornate moss
preparing the mats for him took up most of my husk farming time
rigid bay
analog obsidian
fight me bitch
lament hazel
I wish geo element was good
spark aurora
fight me bitch
kindly delete acc
reef stump
I'll transcend current limitations by playing VV Geo:
analog obsidian
How
rigid bay
kindly delete acc
analog obsidian
Actually nvm I have this
rigid bay
bruh that vv
patent hull
Is dugtrio only better than oven ushi if gorou is c6
reef stump
Is dugtrio only better than oven ushi if gorou is c6
I have never seen any Calcs on Oven Ushi. For proper Team Calcs you'll have to wait for Post-Release.
But jsut for the overall practicality of Dugtrio vs the stationary setup heavy microwave variation I'd vote for Dugrtrio in any case
patent hull
I have never seen any Calcs on Oven Ushi. For proper Team Calcs you'll have to w...
Thx
rigid bay
okay at this point husk domain is playing a joke on me
ive got all elements
and phys damage% on goblet
BUT GEO
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
patent hull
Would itto have hard time shielding if he only relies on crystallize
Im using him with serpent spine so he must be shielded always
I do have zhongli too but he's not in dugtrio team
analog obsidian
I ahve 2 geo dmg bonus gob from husk domain,both shit
reef stump
The game is shilling Geo to me atm. Barely ever gotten Geo Goblets, atm getting spammed with them across multiple Sets. Got randomly spooked by Albedo after over 1k Pulls of nothign early and got 3x Mats drop from Geo Hypostasis like 10 times in a row
patent hull
I cant imagine using serpent spine without zhongli :( zhongli really pampered me with his rock hard shield
spark aurora
diona can be a substitute
reef stump
I do have zhongli too but he's not in dugtrio team
ZL is pretty much ideal in Dugtrio
patent hull
ZL is pretty much ideal in Dugtrio
Itto gorou albedo + nongeo/anemo element = who should i replace with zhongli
reef stump
Itto gorou albedo + nongeo/anemo element = who should i replace with zhongli
4th slot. Itto/Albedo/Gorou/ZL
You don't need Crystallize to happen necessarily
rigid bay
The game is shilling Geo to me atm. Barely ever gotten Geo Goblets, atm getting ...
mihoyo detected insane tc amount about geo from u so they givin u all they got
reef stump
and ZL gets some Pillar Resonance off of Ushi and Albedo E
patent hull
4th slot. Itto/Albedo/Gorou/ZL
oh
analog obsidian
Ik what microwave means but I'm thinking of ushi just spinning in an actual microwave
rigid bay
Ik what microwave means but I'm thinking of ushi just spinning in an actual micr...
hes about to be well done in that case
patent hull
And then they put abyss heralds that are tough to break without the right element pfff
rigid bay
analog obsidian
hes about to be well done in that case
NOOOO
rigid bay
rigid bay
15 hours till itto
analog obsidian
I'ma just go sleep,itto banner is at like 5 am my time next tomorrow
reef stump
And then they put abyss heralds that are tough to break without the right elemen...
Against very aggressive shield checks Geo is a bit screwed anyway and the first thing you'd replace would probably be Albedo since he doesn't proc on shields anyway.
patent hull
Against very aggressive shield checks Geo is a bit screwed anyway and the first ...
Yeah...guess id build geo traveler just in case tho LOL
reef stump
Yeah...guess id build geo traveler just in case tho LOL
Could also just use a counter element Sub DPS in that case.
patent hull
And maybe geo traveler can hard cc those pesky rifthounds in floor 12 3 first half
analog obsidian
Aren't heralds only in floor 10 tho?
rigid bay
To be honest the only cause for concern to not be using mono geo imo (other than not wanting to, which is fine) is when theres shield based enemies on Abyss 12, or herald/ lector/victor on any floor
abyss 12 shields cuz they are way, way thiccer than normal
patent hull
Aren't heralds only in floor 10 tho?
Leaks says in floor 12 also
Idk if im allowed to say that here
analog obsidian
No this patch
reef stump
2.4 Abyss brings Heralds back to F12
patent hull
Oh yeah
reef stump
but only on one side
patent hull
Ahh nice
patent hull
I'm excited to beat up maguu kenki with itto lol
rigid bay
i think everything else is fair game anyway
theres a special place in hell for people who spoil stories
reef stump
And for stuff like Abyss Mage Shields ZLs 4U Geo Q is quite nice
patent hull
I hope itto would have some kind of aoe maybe not better than xiao but at least better than hu
reef stump
We gotta see how large his AoE hitboxes actually are, but atleats the animations are pretty large
analog obsidian
Ig the sca coz it's pretty vertical it seems
reef stump
so he shouldn't be as ST focussed as Hu Tao
patent hull
Yeahhh hopium
Idk if he can hit 3 maguu kenkis simultaneously
In current f12
Hopium
If not, at least 2
reef stump
If they are stacked properly I think so, if they are not a lot of units have a problem with that
He should have above average AoE coverage for a weapon swinging unit
patent hull
Yeah i can only do 2x with raiden
I think xiao is one of the best if not the best who can hit 3 maguu kenkis simultaneously together
reef stump
Raiden is one of the best AoE units in the game, so yeah
analog obsidian
Literally keqing q as atk
patent hull
Ig the sca coz it's pretty vertical it seems
I predict he can hit flying hydro birds and those pesky specters who fly too high
spark aurora
too long 
reef stump
I'm most curious about his actual combo capabilities
usually Pre TC undershoots
due to working with rough frames
and not knowing how well a unit can cancel their animations
analog obsidian
Enough 5 hour energy cans,redbulls and brain dead calculations could make it precise
reef stump
too many variables to solve pre-release unless you literally have a Beta player or someone with a prviate server to play it otu for you
But it should be found out fairly quickly once he is out
whole juniper
Damn, since I decided on SS so late I haven't got the materials to level it up I just realized. I guess there's no way at all to get its domain materials other than running the domain on wednesday?
reef stump
Damn, since I decided on SS so late I haven't got the materials to level it up I...
Nope, gotta wait till wednesday I'm afraid
whole juniper
Well fuck.
Good thing I "wasted" a ton of mats on leveling up Whiteblind before deciding to get BP heh, at least it will see one evening of use before I get SS
reef stump
Good thing I "wasted" a ton of mats on leveling up Whiteblind before deciding to...
Then you get to feel the difference of what you bought and are hopefully impressed
whole juniper
Yeah that's a plus!
Sorry that this is a bit off topic, but short of building Noelle, is there anything I can actually use that Whiteblind for?
reef stump
Sorry that this is a bit off topic, but short of building Noelle, is there anyth...
Currently not, its just for Noelle and Itto and both prefer SS
Noelel and Itto are pretty much identical in their Stat, Set and Weapon preferences
whole juniper
Maybe I'll build Noelle some rainy day for more AoE. Could it be used as an "I have nothing else" option on Beidou?
reef stump
Maybe I'll build Noelle some rainy day for more AoE. Could it be used as an "I h...
Not gonna eork since you don't get to stack it up on Beidou to atleast grab the ATK% which would've made it somewhat comparable to Archaic
reef stump
For how dead Itto as a topic was in the last few weeks there is surely some hype now
nocturne sorrel
hype period for everyone who didn't follow leaks
storm tulip
Giving players better rng is gonna cost them like half of their company's worth ...
honestly I feel like they should have at least have a pity mechanic, where after for example 50 domain runs you got an artifact box where you could pick set, the piece type and main stat, then have subs be rolled onto it normally, at least would help mitigate doing a shit ton of runs looking for a specific piece and nothing
spark aurora
For how dead Itto as a topic was in the last few weeks there is surely some hype...
most ppl here who looks at tc already knows mostly how he works so not much reason for discussion, now that it's closing in on his release we're coming out again
worldly mango
honestly I feel like they should have at least have a pity mechanic, where after...
Gosh, if only.
That'd be so nice
But I dont think they'll do anything like that
somber sandal
we might get strongbox update with husk and emblem (probably the other sets they're attached to domain wise)
storm tulip
I think they should, I said 50 as an arbitrary number, make it 300, 1000 whatever they feel is fair, but I do think something like this should exist so you dont get absolutely fucked by RNG
reef stump
Any form of control over Artifact Stats would be great. Most games that tried to get away with horrid gearing rng like that eventually added some ways to direct your efforts and Genshin really should aswell
nocturne sorrel
problem is arti stats have such a high and unlikely ceiling that making the odds a bit better would just make everyone's standards higher
and it'd feel just as bad
reef stump
Depends
Currently Artifacts have a borderline functionality issue where you can have trouble getting
a complete and worthwhile Full Set
And the longer we keep playing
the more dififcult it is for a new Set to overcome your cracked rainbow pieces
If they lift the bottom up it will be much easier to get functional Sets
that you actually wanna wear
and feel like they were worth the effort
So jsut being able to get that On-Set Goblet or a good On-Set Sands/Circlet can change the landscape quite drastically w/o necessarily making everyone think anything below 220+ CV is trash
Because eventually people will have random 40-50 CV Off Set pieces, but are being asked to farm new Sets from scratch
storm tulip
problem is arti stats have such a high and unlikely ceiling that making the odds...
I would be fine with just being able to guarantee a main stat at least after enough farming
doesnt feel good to sink thousands of resin in a domain and not even having the option
somber sandal
just selecting main stat and piece should be "enough", current rates will probably net you a bunch of the right set you want
slim compass
Oh, is he already on Asia servers?
slim compass
Ah, ok.. can't wait to find out whether I should regret using my guarantee on Eula
rigid bay
For how dead Itto as a topic was in the last few weeks there is surely some hype...
But yeah as duty mentioned, it's literally because we tc'ed so much of his aspects there isn't anything else to cover anymore, so no one was talking as much anymore hah, so everyone was just laying in wait until his release today.
rigid bay
inb4 wake up like 4 hrs past banner time
rigid bay
Also can we have this thread remain for like a week after Itto's release I wonder, so everyone can come to a general consensus a bit without being ran over on main TC channel as people talk about Shenhe and stuff
unique rover
true
rigid bay
Just to give time for calculations to officially solidify and the like, so to say
unique rover
and to
rigid bay
I don't wanna ping sitri or pick though
rigid bay
eh idk, up to u lol
unique rover
Also can we have this thread remain for like a week after Itto's release I wonde...
@tribal osprey
reef stump
Also can we have this thread remain for like a week after Itto's release I wonde...
I agree with that sentiment. Either diverts some of the onslaught from the Main Channel or gives us a calmer corner to discusss and test specifics.
analog obsidian
Still no Def sands
dapper bramble
anyone can make soft stat goals for itto like this?
speaking of def sands. how much copium should i take 
stoic wagon
speaking of def sands. how much copium should i take <:peepo_omg:843749682324832...
way too much
sadly mine isnt all that much better
low valve
Imagine having on set
patent galleon
any bolide copers in chat?
spark aurora
spark aurora
patent galleon
unless it was a really dank set from noelle, i really wouldnt
61/194 crit with SS on Noelle
rigid bay
patent galleon
so itto will be 80/194
rigid bay
Yeah that's pretty nice for a placeholder until you get equally dank set from Husk
patent galleon
yeah i focused boss mats and talent mats first
rigid bay
Yeah no worries if so
patent galleon
rather than gambling for a usable Husk in time for his banner
rigid bay
The talent took me a while but I did in 2.2 so ye
Yeah I also just did what's confirmed first, basically farming his boss talents and the like
Then immediately working on the husk once everything else done
patent galleon
i also farmed for gorou
spark aurora
2 hrs
zinc tusk
9 for me 
analog obsidian
15 hours
rigid bay
ancient stone
wait, why is this thread going to get dissolved when there's still TCing to do once itto is out and playable?
tribal osprey
soon tm means never
whole juniper
9 for me <:A_DedTao:798685415073644565>
Ey another EU to share the waiting pains with
patent galleon
laughs in NA
hazy surge
Yo good luck to everyone on 50/50 pulling for him!
ancient stone
9 for me <:A_DedTao:798685415073644565>
8 hours, we can survive this
crystal isle
34 more mins and time is so slow jesus
unique rover
29mins...
primal wing
Hopium overload: Itto doesn't snapshot the defense conversion and whiteblind is amazing on him
onyx junco
im on the hopium that he doesnt work like xiao
unique rover
losing my mind
unique rover
im on the hopium that he doesnt work like xiao <:A_HuCry:791398917869928496>
what does this mean
primal wing
im on the hopium that he doesnt work like xiao <:A_HuCry:791398917869928496>
Bro he's so fucked if he does lol
onyx junco
what does this mean
his energy gen with his E while in Q
primal wing
He will regen energy, I refuse to consider other scenarios
primal wing
xiao doesnt generate e on burst because of c6 i think?
What's razors reason tho
analog obsidian
Raozr doesn't generate energy in burst?
unique rover
well he has energy mechanic by himself
primal wing
Raozr doesn't generate energy in burst?
Nope
whole juniper
Never mind 50/50, anyone else scared they won’t pull Gorou?
onyx junco
What's razors reason tho
razor has build in er on his kit with his sigils
analog obsidian
Nerve noticed that
whole juniper
Imagine getting 15 Barbaras
unique rover
does kokomi not generate energy during burst?
analog obsidian
Imagine getting 15 Barbaras
Witness
onyx junco
does kokomi not generate energy during burst?
yes she does, raiden too
unique rover
Raozr doesn't generate energy in burst?
built sigil, resets e, and such
primal wing
Never mind 50/50, anyone else scared they won’t pull Gorou?
I wanna run mono geo but it all falls apart without Gorou, so yeah I'm scared lol
analog obsidian
built sigil, resets e, and such
I didn't notice at all when I main him,prolly coz it was when I'm ar 20-37
whole juniper
I wanna run mono geo but it all falls apart without Gorou, so yeah I'm scared lo...
Same haha, all my plans hinge on him. I love how I managed to choose a guaranteed pity banner to pull on and still have to be nervous about not getting what I want
Gacha skill right there
primal wing
Same haha, all my plans hinge on him. I love how I managed to choose a guarantee...
Yeah I have him guaranteed, but at least I am quite literally at 0 pity
Still, worst case scenario that's like 4 rate up 4 stars
whole juniper
I’m just throwing all my orbs on the banner regardless of when I get Itto
primal wing
I'll risk it a bit, but I want a lot of upcoming characters and don't want his cons
analog obsidian
150 wishes if barb didn't come I'm mad
primal wing
i might just use a 4* def sands...
I'm using a rainbow set with cracked stats until I get good 2pc husk
And eventually 4pc
whole juniper
If I get something like c4 Gorou before Itto I might stop. Otherwise I don’t mind too much, I’ll build more pity no matter the banner (unless I actually get two Ittos in a row with 130 pulls and even then I don’t mind c1)
primal wing
I honestly don't think I'll get more than c2
I hope I get at least 1 Xiangling, I've only gotten her twice from gacha
C3 Xiangling main
rigid bay
13 MINUTES
whole juniper
I have c4 XL so I really hope for c6 tonight
rigid bay
analog obsidian
One more xl cons for mono pyro team completion
patent galleon
honestly them making Itto like Xiao energy wise doesn't make sense, unless they just really wanted to push the mono Geo comp
unique rover
T_T
primal wing
honestly them making Itto like Xiao energy wise doesn't make sense, unless they ...
Albedo, Gorou and Zhongli are so shit at energy gen I'm pretty sure you'll still need a little bit if ER on Itto to burst often lul
unique rover
6mins..
analog obsidian
5
patent galleon
Albedo, Gorou and Zhongli are so shit at energy gen I'm pretty sure you'll still...
true, but him not generating particles in burst would just make it worse. especially since he wants to preferably use his E during his Ult
primal wing
true, but him not generating particles in burst would just make it worse. especi...
Itto's kit is, imo, well designed. It's synergistic with itself and it looks like there was quite a lot of thought put into him to make him fit neatly with other 5 star dps
Not making energy in burst would be absolutely baffling and completely against everything we've seen of him so far
patent galleon
thats basically what i was saying
unique rover
THREEE MINUTESSSS
patent galleon
in response to people talking about it being a possibility
primal wing
:kannakms:
primal wing
him snap shotting Def makes sense
Looking forward to those 7k attack showcases with artifact swapping tbh
analog obsidian
1
unique rover
1 minute
patent galleon
Looking forward to those 7k attack showcases with artifact swapping tbh
if noelle was able to reach 10k+ then Itto def can
if not more
spark aurora
analog obsidian
It's time,I think
primal wing
GOGOGOGO
unique rover
HES HERE
analog obsidian
The one and Oni babyyy
primal wing
Already got a finding in kqm people are fast af
rigid bay
unique rover
i did
analog obsidian
12 more hours for me
unique rover
i accidentally exited
analog obsidian
hazy surge
Saw particles in his E when he was in Q
rigid bay
pain
4 gorou
2 itto
8 xiangling
10 barbara
probably.
im gonna die
170 pulls
:c
primal wing
Very happy to learn the probability for 3 or 4 particles is somewhat even
crystal isle
Ushi is so strong jesus
kind stag
cant wait to see ushi nukes LOL
rigid bay
OH YEEEE
analog obsidian
1 mil ushi when
thick flame
rigid bay
oof lol
unique rover
itto throws ushi too far
primal wing
itto throws ushi too far
Doesn't he throw him right in front of him if you tap?
onyx junco
can someone try him against maguu or a boss?
unique rover
the hold i mean
primal wing
Ahh yeah 6 tiles is a lot, though since you can adjust it, it isn't a problem right?
static mural
yeah its not a problem
primal wing
What I wanna know is if you can throw ushi with Jean, like guoba 
primal wing
He can be pushed around after all
unique rover
i dont have specters NAURRR
primal wing
Imagine not prefarming mats, couldn't be me
primal wing
i cant see any shit when fighting
Maining Xiao has prepared me for this moment
patent galleon
Maining Xiao has prepared me for this moment
rigid bay
how about redhorn
yeah nah
my gorou luck is insanely horrible
i only have 3 of him
I WANT GOROU NOW
FUCK REDHORN
static mural
i got c3 gorou in 70 pulls
primal wing
Depending on your weapon c6 Gorou could be a bigger dps increase than redhorn tbh
rigid bay
wtf
static mural
im not actually a geo main 
it just turned out like this
primal wing
Gorou's burst icon looks even cuter like that
static mural
pull c6 gorou so we can have one shot ushi showcase 
patent galleon
Depending on your weapon c6 Gorou could be a bigger dps increase than redhorn tb...
if ur running R5 serpent redhorn honestly isnt worth anyway
primal wing
Imagine buying BP though
rigid bay
pull c6 gorou so we can have one shot ushi showcase <a:ushidance:903933769310933...
heres hoping that i could get him in the rest of the days tbh
static mural
i only got one barb
static mural
c4 barb time
rigid bay
frosty sorrel
gorou rate 
ionic cape
what is your crate? 75?
inland dagger
what is your crate? 75?
onyx junco
whats your weapon?👀
spark aurora
c0 gorou
inland dagger
whats your weapon?👀
R5 serpent spinee~
spark aurora
rigid bay
dam bruh
inland dagger
rigid bay
my stat rn
rigid bay
ionic cape
91k bull
inland dagger
how much dmg?
Level 8 ushi - 91k atm
spark aurora
nice
rigid bay
inland dagger
Imagine C6 gorou sheesh
ionic cape
nice one duty
spark aurora
ocean bison
Anyone using him with serpent spine?
ionic cape
the stats above
unique rover
im currently farming exp in overworld
stoic wagon
Anyone using him with serpent spine?
me, but r1
unique rover
frigid hound
I just realize my itto would be rocking 98/170
70/258 with redhorn
Fuck I want a redhorn
rigid bay
patent galleon
https://streamable.com/i2tk1w
sheeeeeesh
ionic cape
I just realize my itto would be rocking 98/170
you going for him 
analog obsidian
So itto e deals the most dmg as expected?
rigid bay
rigid bay
nice lmao
yeah playing around the stack is
uh
very confusing
il need to get used to this
little quiver
So itto e deals the most dmg as expected?
most of what? it's his highest damage per screenshot if that's what you are asking
languid linden
hey i got itto c0 should i choose c1 or better get his signature weapon?
little quiver
Anyone seen someone play dugtrio in stream or video yet?
spark aurora
yeah playing around the stack is
im having fun
spark aurora
Anyone seen someone play dugtrio in stream or video yet?
with whom
little quiver
hey i got itto c0 should i choose c1 or better get his signature weapon?
getting C0 to C1 is way cheaper than his weapon if you are unlocky on weapon banner but also less power if you aren't possibly hitting Gorou C6
and it depends on what weapon you are using otherwise
rigid bay
using him in dugtrio atm but yeah confusing as hell
need some time getting used to for the rots
spark aurora
i got somewhat used to it 
ocean bison
Thoughts on itto until now?
spark aurora
predictably strong in the right team
sharp sinew
I just full stack Itto consume everything hit na 3 times and charge attack again
rigid bay
lol itto feels like eula + xiao
enemies die before u can do ur ult properly
with my geo team at least
whole juniper
So ignoring damage, how is c1 for comfort? Does it make him smoother to play in any way?
little quiver
using him in dugtrio atm but yeah confusing as hell
You have it C0?
When you first burst on him you have no stacks right?
spark aurora
yea
rigid bay
Mine's C1 so yeah
little quiver
Oh do you get the C1 charges fast enough to have 2 after your QE or what's the timing there?
rigid bay
Let me check properly
little quiver
oh yeah it should be 2 and then 1 every 0.5sec
spark aurora
after that there's a 1 second delay, then you get 1 every 0,5 secs (for 1.5 secs)
little quiver
And Ushi needs to be hit to give a stack
So possibly 4-5 stacks right out of the QE?
rigid bay
If you Q without any stacks at all, C1 give you enough space and timing to do a full 5 SCA from the get go, assuming no Ushi is in play
As far as tests go, pretty standard
spark aurora
rigid bay
On the other hand, doing Q while having 5 full stacks, seem to not give me any additional stacks from C1. I assume because they are given out before I could even start using my SCAs, so it gets wasted.
little quiver
Oh C1 is pretty good to make him way smoother to play then
static mural
have you heard the birthday one
spark aurora
ofc i have
static mural
inland dagger
Fuck I love him more after the story quest
rigid bay
Oh never mind, it is possible to just chain a full 5 stack into C1
Of course, you will lose the initial 2 from C1, but given if you execute SCA quickly enough, the SCA come out as a total of 8 slashes including the final one.
storm tulip
yeah
static mural
i finally saw someone have ushi deal 100k
rigid bay
my R3 SS can only push ushi to 80k sadly
storm tulip
I should be able to get over 200k with setup
frigid hound
Water
rigid bay
static mural
the 100k dude crowned his cow thats why
clever herald
Is it Koinzell?
rigid bay
ive got 10/10/10
static mural
what did u do
rigid bay
also i officially call itto albedo gorou zhongli comp,
"I don't know what the fuck I'm hitting but things are dying" comp
frigid hound
Same color
static mural
static mural
but i am mei mf
frigid hound
But ur not Xanrai
rigid bay
imagine.
frigid hound
but i am mei mf
It was not for u
analog obsidian
Ushi gaming
rigid bay
frigid hound
Ushi oneshots primovishap coming
rigid bay
bruh
analog obsidian
Yea yea whale whatever one shot ushi is one shot ushi
rigid bay
imagine being signora