#yes please
gray stream
Hello. You can post your questions and artifacts/weapons here. And we'd be able to help you. If you have questions about terminology don't hesitate to ask
lethal horizon
okay
doesnt raiden go based off of
energy recharge
how come according to other people, i need to use attack sands
gray stream
I see why you're confused. She is based off of energy recharge and attack.
lethal horizon
what is the attack part
gray stream
her talent scaling is based off of attack. Every level increase of her burst talent level, it raises her damage based on how much attack she has.
However, talent * attack is only the beginning of how her damage is calculated. She has a passive talent that raises her electro damage bonus based on how much energy recharge she has. Damage bonus is multiplied on top of talent level * attack.
lethal horizon
do all characters talent scaling go based off of attack?
or in other words when generally building any character would i usually have to go attack sands?
gray stream
nope! We have more attack-based characters but some characters do damage based on hp, em, def.
lethal horizon
ohh okay
so when do i know when to go attack sands/goblet
because you said soemthing about how it depends on my main stat
corretc me if im wrong
correct*
gray stream
if you use the catch r5, and you have enough energy recharge from artifact substats, you can use an attack sands to maximize raiden's damage.
substats are the 4 little numbers you see on an artifact piece. The main stat is the top number in a different section.
When we say attack sands we're referring to the mainstat of the sands.
gray stream
For raiden, if you use a weapon that's not energy-recharge based, such as primordial jade wing spear, you will almost always want to use an Energy Recharge sands because she wants a lot of energy recharge as well.
oh my goodness, substats matter a great deal
lethal horizon
ohh okay
so then for raiden
how much energy recharge do i need for my main stat
the main stat is the thingy when u click details on the character screen right
or
is it the artifact
the details button
gray stream
for the weapons you have, you're looking for about 220 energy recharge total (from weapon, artifact mainstat, and substats). You can check your total energy recharge number from raiden's stats page
lethal horizon
oh okay
gray stream
artifact mainstat is when you click on individual artifacts
gray stream
yup!!!
lethal horizon
okay
and what about the goblet?
do i also go attack or do i go electro dmg bonus
gray stream
electro damage bonus for most cases, but if you don't have "good" electro goblet, you can use an attack goblet that is "good"
lethal horizon
okay
gray stream
a "good" goblet for raiden would have crit rate, crit damage, attack% and energy recharge on the substats.
gray stream
yup!
lethal horizon
for my flower i have
this is my feather
this is my current sands which i plan to change
this is my goblet
and this is my circlet
i usually just find artifacts that i think fit and then raise them
tiktok is where i get most information
which i guess is unreliable at a certain point
i do have another goblet of electro
its an emblem one that lisa has right now
gray stream
you're on the right track! The only problem is that although many pieces have the correct substats on them, they didn't upgrade wel, with a lot of upgrades increasing the hp% and things that doesn't improve raiden's damage
lethal horizon
should i show that one
gray stream
yeah show
lethal horizon
lethal horizon
you're on the right track! The only problem is that although many pieces have th...
wdym
like when u lvl it up the things upgrade
gray stream
so the lisa piece is slightly better than the one you have on raiden
lethal horizon
okay i switched
gray stream
yes, when you level an artifact up, every 4 upgrades it will randomly increase a substat's number. You want the crit rate, crit damage, energy recharge, and attack% being upgraded
gray stream
it just means you can use it for now but you'd be looking for better pieces to replace it with
lethal horizon
ohh okay
gray stream
when you open raiden's stats page, here are some numbers to look for:
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crit rate: aim for 60% or above (can be lower by 12% if you use the catch)
crit damage: aim for 120% or above
energy recharge: aim for 220% for all weapons except engulfing lightning
lethal horizon
okay
i do not have much crit rate
so basically i just need to farm emblem to find the desired stats that i want
gray stream
the xiao piece can be potentially better for raiden if your stats page show that you need more energy recharge, does this make sense?
gray stream
yup, just more farming!
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they're pretty close. what is the weapon?
gray stream
ok then I think you can go with the first one for now. higher energy recharge will be more comfortable
lethal horizon
got it
gray stream
and when you refine it you get more crit rate (even though it doesn't show on the stat page)
gray stream
yup!
lethal horizon
so from what the other people said, emblem doesnt help xiao at all
gray stream
emblem doesn't, but the other artifact from the domain, shimenawa's reminiscence, can be used for xiao in a 2pc set
lethal horizon
i do have like a little bit of glads and vv since i did do that domain for jean
got it
for weapon what should i use
gray stream
you can also use the strongbox to exchange for more vv pieces to get better ones for xiao
if you have jade wing spear I would give it to xiao, it is the best for him
lethal horizon
the primordial jade wing?
gray stream
yup!
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his mainstats should be:
sands: attack
goblet: anemo damage or attack
circlet: crit rate or crit circlet
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you can use 2 vv + 2 glad or 2vv + 2shimenawa
if you don't have good 2vv pieces, you can actually use 2glad + 2 shimenawa for xiao
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ok!
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the first one is excellent for xiao. I think you should lock it too to keep it safe
the third one should be locked as well
gray stream
do you see the little padlock icon above 4780?
gray stream
locking it will prevent you from accidentally using a really good artifact to upgrade other artifacts
lethal horizon
okay
i remember i accidentally locked an artifatc once and i didnt know what it did or what it would do
gray stream
😂 we all been there
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first one
lethal horizon
i do have this glad tho
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this is also really good!!
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yup!, you'll eventually get better pieces but for now I'd use it
wait...this is also flower
I 'd stick with the one with er
the first one
lethal horizon
okay
gray stream
it has more crit and more er, so more substats that are relevant for xiao and making it "good"
lethal horizon
okay
i dont have any vv sands only 1glad
in the previous conversation id always thing wanderers and glads are something i dont keep
gray stream
if they have crit rate and crit damage I'd still keep them
lethal horizon
ohh okay
gray stream
they're very useful pieces in 2pc sets with others
gray stream
anemo dmg bonus or attack can both be used, depending which one has "better" substats
lethal horizon
one isnt lvled up but i can always work on it
i always thought that anemo characters used em so
thats what ive been doing
hence the em goble
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gray stream
first, third, and forth can be used. Elemental mastery mainstat doesn't work for xiao unless you're doing a niche build.
do you have a crit damage circlet with energy recharge or crit rate on it?
lethal horizon
uhh
gray stream
xiao still wants at least 130ER or as high as 160
gray stream
so if you don't have good er pieces for goblet and circlet, we can go back and use a feather with er on it.
ok
then we use this goblet
lethal horizon
oo okay
gray stream
do you kinda see the thought process? you kind of have to know what final numbers you're looking for in a build, and look for pieces that can contribute to them
gray stream
yup!
lethal horizon
oh
gray stream
show me and we'll get a better idea what we're looking for in circlet
lethal horizon
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is your primordial jade wing spear leveled?
gray stream
ok I see. Then yes, we're def looking for a crit damage circlet with er and crit rate on it
lethal horizon
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yup, this is pretty nice
lethal horizon
i basically have decent pieces on the wrong characters
gray stream
yup XDDDD
lethal horizon
i always read the thing and misunderstand it
for kazuha they said that defense sword doesnt work
can you explain why
this one
i know its low lvl
but i was going to raise it sooner or later
gray stream
kazuha is an anemo character that actually want elemental mastery like you read
so what we're looking for with kazuha, for the vast majority of teams he performs well in, is:
4pc vv with em sands, em goblet, em circlet, and enough energy recharge for him to use his burst when the team needs it.
You'd pick the weapon based on how much energy recharge you have in substats. And usually the weapon that satisfy kazuha's needs are favonius sword, iron sting, and the new umbrealla sword from the event
if you use favonius sword, you'd look for em mainstat pieces with energy recharge and crit rate in substats
lethal horizon
oo okay
so i was going through my artifacts
how much energy recharge does he need
gray stream
defense doesn't increase kazuha's damage because nothing in kazuha's kit scales with defence. The passive for the defense sword also doesn't scale with em kazuha's damage. When you use the def sword on albedo, albedo has a lot of crit. But em kazuha doesn't care about crit at all unless it's crit rate for favonius sword
what teams do you want to use kazuha with?
lethal horizon
what can he be used with
i usually just used him for exploration
i tried spiral abyss and it was too hard so i can start working on that
people suggested i work on rational team (not to sure what it is)
gray stream
ayaka freeze team, childe international team, kokomi taser team, hutao/yoimiya vaporize teams
lethal horizon
this is his stats with favonious sword at lvl 60
gray stream
rational is the raiden version of national team.
National team is just xiangling bennett and sometimes xingqiu core
lethal horizon
got it
gray stream
oh your kazuha looks great with fav sword, I'd level the sword and keep him like this as long as this is kazuha with 4vv set
gray stream
yup then kazuha is good
lethal horizon
i farmed it originally for sucrose
but i havent gotten to sucrose
because she is still at lvl 20
;c
gray stream
sucrose basically want the same build as kazuha, but you can go easy on her energy recharge unless you use her in a taser team (taser team is sucrose fischl beidou xingqiu)
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lethal horizon
sorry i know im not too pro at all this building and things
i rarely cared about it because i thought it didnt matter and i just liked playing da game
gray stream
you're doing really well, I know it can be really confusing in the begining but you'll def get a feeling for it the more you farm and build characters
"just playing the game" is also a valid way to play the game so you don't have to stress out about this unless you want to increase your damage and maybe do spiral abyss where the damage kind of matters for higher floors
gray stream
oh yeah the big numbers are super fun XDDDD
gray stream
np and you're welcome!!! if main chat gets overwhelming just ask for a thread like this again. I always check threads so even if no one's available to do it with you at the time I'll get to the thread and see you
lethal horizon
OO okay alrighty
yeah it was getting overwhelming with all my builds being cancelled
im not too smart of a genshin player
gray stream
it is super confusing it's a lot of things to keep track of but don't worry, we got you
lethal horizon
thank youu