#Solar Abyss Help

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Ok so

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First things first - can I have a list of your main DPS characters

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The ones that you play often and see yourself playing long into the future

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Because you have a huge roster

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So it's important to set priorities yeah

grand idol
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Raiden Shogun and Ayato I’d say are my favorites to use and I have some solid artifacts for

I have like two good artifacts for these:
Hu Tao
Ganyu
Ayaka
Tighnari

I feel like I actually have good artifacts for these but their dps feels low:
Xiao
Eula

Totally unbuilt:
Yoimiya
Tartaglia

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My Yoimiya build is literally like 3.5k atk and no crit stats at all lol

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Oof

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Well

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Raiden Shogun and Ayato are definitely good building blocks to work around tbf

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So it's not entirely undoable

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C2 Miko instead of Shogun though

grand idol
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Listen okay

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I just noticed

grand idol
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Waifu material > Meta

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Fair fair

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Anyway, I think we can safely put them in a comp

grand idol
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Definitely no

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You have a very solid roster

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And I definitely think that with the right mechanics and artifacts, abyss should be a cakewalk for you

grand idol
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Yeah- I think the only problems with that are weapons and cons. I’m just trying to collect so ive been trying to get stuff c0, and ive only pulled for yae cons and yae’s weapon, so ive been limited to using 4* weapons and copium artifacts

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That's fine yeah

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I think your main problem here

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If I may guess

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Is that you've been building too many characters

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But you haven't like worked on min-maxing any of them

grand idol
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Yeah I think you’re right about that

still cloak
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And you like pulling new characters, so it's an endless cycle of pull new character > build new character > get mediocre set of artifacts > pull new character

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And there's nothing wrong w that really

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But if you want your focus to be on clearing spiral abyss with ease, then maybe consider toning it down a little

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And focus on building your current roster; the one you have atm

grand idol
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So change to like pull characters > let it sit and build old characters until i beat spiral abyss

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Or if you do pull new characters, then put them on the backburner until you have consolidated your teams

grand idol
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Yeah

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Because you have a plentiful roster

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With a lot of depth

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But unfortunately, your roster is like

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A michelin star meal appearance-wise, but without any seasoning

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If you get my analogy

grand idol
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Yeah yeah totally

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Ok I digress

grand idol
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So what should i mainly spending resin on?

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Well

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You already have a solid first team of Raiden-Yae-Bennett-Kazuha

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Have you been using that before?

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If you haven't, you oughta check out gameplay of it

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It's a sick team

grand idol
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I usually use that in the overworld but for this abyss i used raiden national bc of the cryo shield guys can be broken easily with xiangling

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Yeah that's fair

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Although if you had her built, Hu Tao could've dealt with the cube easily as well

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Anyway, let me take a look at the upcoming abyss and do a little bit of analysis

grand idol
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I do really want to use Hu Tao, but I have to build her lol

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Alr I do gtg for a little so ill reply when im back thanks for the help

still cloak
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Sure sure

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Ok just to preface this: I'm not very familiar with how Dendro fits into the new meta atm, so I'll just talk about teams that I know can almost certainly beat the abyss without Dendro

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If you find anything that interests you in the future, feel free to integrate them

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Anyway, here's how I'd deal with each of the floors:

Floor 11 1st half & Floor 12 2nd half: Ayaka-Ganyu-Kokomi-Venti

Chock full of enemies that can be Venti-ed and frozen, your best bet is probably to take advantage of both these factors and very quickly burst them all to death with the deadly combination of all of them. Now, even though F12 2nd half doesn't look very freezable OR Venti-able aside from chamber 1, the raw damage of an Ayaka buffed by Ganyu's Celestial Shower and TTDS from Kokomi should be enough to deal with these immobile bosses, and anything other than them should be a cakewalk.

Floor 11 2nd half & Floor 12 1st half: Raiden-Bennett-Kazuha-Yae

A team that has a ton of consistent DPS, the Electro Lawachurl and Flower shouldn't pose too much of a threat to you as long as you manage to break their shields quickly with Bennett-Kazuha. One of the best teams all-around, running them should not only allow you to deal easily with multiple targets, but with single-target enemies as well, with Yae E contributing a lot of single-target DPS. Overall, this abyss shouldn't be an issue for you

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So with all this in mind, all you really need to do is invest in the first team up there, since your second team is supposedly already solidly built.

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My suggestion here is to get Kokomi over and done with first, since she's the easiest to build. 4 Tenacity with ER/HP/HB ideally with TTDS, but ER/HP/HP would suffice as well, since her role here is to provide basically 100% jellyfish uptime. If you already have that done (I wasn't sure since I saw the tick, but I have no clue what you gave her exactly) OR you already have a solidly-invested OCH set, then she should be good to go

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I shouldn't need to talk about Venti, but just in case, he ought to hold 4VV with ER/EM/EM or EM/EM/EM, depending on your weapon and subs. Generally, as long as Venti has about 150ER, getting his burst back shouldn't be an issue so long as you E before you Q on him.

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Ganyu and Ayaka is where it gets a bit more complicated. Ideally, you want to have both of them on 4 Blizzard since that's going to be their best set here, but if you find difficulty in getting both of them on 4 Blizzard due to a lack of suitable pieces, Ganyu can be put on 2 Blizz 2 NO OR 4 Emblem. That being said, if you don't already have good pieces, the best route here would probably be to go to farm BS, and strongbox your trash pieces for more Blizzard Strayer imo. That's probably going to be your best bet for now.

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Of course, before any of this though, don't forget to level the relevant skills to level 8 at least if you haven't done so already. Those being -
Team 1: Ganyu E & Q, Ayaka E & Q, Kokomi E
Team 2: Raiden E & Q, Yae E & Q, Bennett Q

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That, and ascending your weapons should do you a whole lot of good.

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I genuinely think that this upcoming round should be rather easy for you, and that's all the advice I have for now

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If you have any questions, feel free to ping me again for any needed clarification

grand idol
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HoD doesn't help her in this scenario

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Since she's not there to do damage

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You really want the buffing capability from Tenacity for her

grand idol
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Alright

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So much farming lol-

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It is what it is

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At least you have a couple of weeks to get it done

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If you need help with rotations, feel free to ask too

grand idol
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I do have one question- is it okay if I use Ocean Hued clam on kokomi instead? If I farm that domain then I can put the extra pieces from the other set on Albedo, since I don’t need Pale Flame from the other domain?

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Yeah that's fine

grand idol
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@still cloak Sorry these are my last two questions-

  1. So the order I should farm is OHC -> VV -> BS ? Who should I put the extra Heart of Depth on while I’m farming?

  2. If I were to whale for cons for a character, would it be better to get Raiden Shogun C2 or C1 Tao and Homa? I’m very close to pity on event wish and weapon banner. I’ve been really considering the Hu Tao and Homa, since C1 is a major upgrade for Hu Tao and when I’m not using her I can use Homa on Xiao, Raiden, Thoma (I use him for funzies), and if any other good Polearms come out.

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# grand idol <@148100838861176832> Sorry these are my last two questions- 1. So the order I ...

  1. Basic OHC set > Basic VV set > BS. For the extra Heart of Depth, you can either keep it if it's decent enough or Strongbox for more BS.

  2. Depends on you really. Shogun C2 would make that team a LOT more powerful, since her personal damage is a monster. However, C1 Tao + Homa is a less noticeable spike, but like you said, you can use it on more characters. Personally, I would go for Tao because her C0 is really ligma, but it's up to you

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When I say "Basic" set, I just mean getting the right main stats for OHC and getting out

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As for VV, ideally you get more EM pieces, but if not, just get enough ER and call it a day

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Your BS is the most important since Ayaka and Ganyu really wan tit

grand idol
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I know C0 Tartaglia is subpar but can I put the HoD on him if I get good pieces?

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C0 Tartaglia is the most complete 5 star there is at C0

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He doesn't need cons to work at all

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I've used him in almost every single abyss since I've gotten him

grand idol
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The cooldown though MikuCry

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That just comes down to not knowing how to manage his cooldowns

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Which is actually quite simple once you get the hang of it

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WAIT I just had a super important question I forgot to ask its very important though

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What's up

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For the most part when I ask people, on most comps people tell me to use Fischl over Yae but I just don’t see it. She does 5x more damage, plus she has her nuke elemental burst, and my cons just make her way better. Why do people always tell me to use Fischl instead?

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Fischl C6 is very powerful

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That's all I can say

grand idol
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It’s also the same thing with people telling me to use Xingqiu over Yelan

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I do agree that C2 Yae is probably better than C6 Fischl though

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The Xingqiu vs Yelan debate is a whole different matter

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Esp if Yelan is at C0

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Because in certain team comps, Yelan will not apply enough hydro for Hu Tao to consistently vape her CAs, most notable in double Geo Tao

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If you have her C2 though, that issue is alleviated

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I didn't even notice you had Yelan tbh

grand idol
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Ohhh

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That opens up another possible team comp, where you run Hu Tao + Xingqiu + Yelan and a flex spot

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That flex going to any one of Zhongli, Fischl, Xiangling etc

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Zhongli is your 'safe' option, but the other two will be more damage

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So maybe after I’m done getting those really good BS pieces, should I farm some good EoSF sets and a CW set for Tao?

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As for C2 Yae vs C6 Fischl, go with Yae all the time, esp since you have her weapon

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Since you're going to be farming Emblem for a lot of characters

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Xingqiu, Xiangling, Yelan etc

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You might as well farm 4p Shimenawa for Hu Tao

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It's convenient, with the only caveat being that you'll be bursting less often

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But C1 Hu Tao makes better use of Shimenawa anyway

grand idol
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Ok

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This is completely off topic but for Hu Tao, is it safe to assume her rerun will be in the next two patches? Since she hasn’t got one is a super long time

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Don't count your chickens before they hatch

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But it def is possibld

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Possible

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For your consideration, though be sure not to take it as gospel

grand idol
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Ah okay thanks

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I need to practice self control and not summon during 3.1

grand idol
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@still cloak I found some OHC I had lying around can you tell me if these are useable?

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@still cloak I also did just get this if it’s good I can be done with this domain

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I yolo’d everything and she ended up like this

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OHC with TToDS

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Could you get an ER Sands on her?

grand idol
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I mean I could farm for one but I don't have one on hand

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Yeah

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Try to get either an HP Goblet or an ER Sasnds

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Sands

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Then off-piece the last one

grand idol
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Ok

grand idol
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Ganyu and Ayaka want Atk/Cryo/CD

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But prioritize Ayaka's set

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@still cloak is this solid enough? she has 61.6% cryo dmg bonus

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