@rancid tangle
#ShcemX Help
rancid tangle
oki
tacit stone
post ur characters
rancid tangle
oki gimme sec
if I don't get yoi, I'mma have to use a team that I.. personally find a big annoying to use
with xl and stuff, but also don't want to waste primos and potentially miss zhongli just so my brain will hurt a little less
tacit stone
first of all, you'd have to understand there are limitation to our suggestions: we're not going to be able to suggest the team that you like to play the most because that is very subjective. And secondly if you have an objective reason to not go for the team let us know, instead of "idk I just dont like playing blah blah blah", I'm also a human being and I have limited patience. Lastly this thread can be used to remember stuff, so you don't have to ask the same question over and over again
@rancid tangle understood?
tacit stone
good, now I'll get started
rancid tangle
currently, f2p, if things get dicy, then I can move to welkin
last ditch effor
and I'mma need a super gud reason to do so
tacit stone
I see, first of all I think zhongli would be a good pull, but hes a while away, so you can totally pull another character, lose another 50/50, and get him
but that is a looooong way away, so we dont have to think about that atm
tacit stone
stay with me
rancid tangle
alright
tacit stone
did you understand what I just said
so you can totally pull another character, lose another 50/50, and get him
this is taken account that you have guaranteed
rancid tangle
yes
tacit stone
ok good
rancid tangle
gud point
tacit stone
we dont talk about things that we cant control cuz thats meaningless
all I ask is for you to stay with my logic
give me a moment
rancid tangle
got it
tacit stone
sick
so I think for yoimiya, it's not a bad pull for you, and you can make it work
because she also works in pure pyro teams
rancid tangle
hmm.. and she does have benefits for me, specifically
tacit stone
if you can get a yunjin in the process, even better, but that's not guaranteed so there's that
rancid tangle
- Ranged (at least.. as far as slingshot will let me stay at range)
- Not as complicated as the EM pyro-swirl xl team
tacit stone
the other team for you is obviously itto's geo team
rancid tangle
yes
oh wait, next month has xq in the starglitter shop, that'll be nice, that's in a long while though
tacit stone
yes
you 100% want to get a xingqiu
that opens up both vaping for yoimiya and electro charged team
here are characters I would focus on raising/farming talents for: xiangling, bennett, gorou, jean, fischl
and xingqiu immediately after you got him
as for dendro, the best thing you can do is wait
dont think about it atm cuz its all in the air
nothing is solid concrete yet
tacit stone
an anemo character instead of fischl
rancid tangle
sucrose
tacit stone
jean, sucrose, even heizou is fine
rancid tangle
I got all 3
tacit stone
just need the res shred
rancid tangle
hmmm...
rancid tangle
oh true
then probably sucrose
since she has more range than heizou
so... I suppose ttds sucrose with 4 VV?
tacit stone
yes
rancid tangle
now, the bigger question, which team takes priority for talents, ascensions, and artifacts
tacit stone
one of your biggest issues is lack of patience
its going to take a while to raise them
rancid tangle
hm, I see
tacit stone
so better slow down and enjoy the process
rancid tangle
alright
tacit stone
genshin is a VERY slow game
rancid tangle
not like I can farm them all super fast anyway, so even if I want to go fast, I cannot, so may as well stop trying
tacit stone
and try not to come in everyday and ask for what options here what options that
rancid tangle
reason why I stopped speedrunning quests like I did with getting to inazuma...
right, ok ok
rancid tangle
yeah, too many questions from me, and some aren't even good
tacit stone
so we get tired of the same stuff everytime, especially when its theoretical
we're practical ppl here in ghelp
rancid tangle
right...
tacit stone
ok glad we got that across
and one more thing is that
you should probably put bennett into your itto team cuz it aint got any healers atm
rancid tangle
I have barabra
tacit stone
no that doesnt work as well
rancid tangle
hm
alrighty
I'm gonna need to replace benny with another member in that itto team eventually if I'm gonna do spiral abyss though
tacit stone
so the team would probably be: itto gorou geo traveler bennett and yoi thoma yunjin/xiangling sucrose
tacit stone
yes
rancid tangle
I mean, my reasoning for not moving benny over is that Itto's burst scales better off def I think, and yoi could make more use of the atk bonus
tacit stone
to balance out both teams
rancid tangle
ah
fair point
oh and a side question, for overworld and stuff, if I were to use yoi team, it would be better to replace thoma with benny right?
tacit stone
yoi is less picky when it comes to teammates
tacit stone
oh and a side question, for overworld and stuff, if I were to use yoi team, it w...
for overworld you can use whatever
rancid tangle
oh right, forgot about that
so now that the 2 teams have been decided, uhhhh
oh right, so at my WL, soon to be WL6, should I try to at least get yoi to lvl 80 (so she matches up with itto)? and then, what lvl should I keep the supports at for their talent lvls?
tacit stone
oh right, so at my WL, soon to be WL6, should I try to at least get yoi to lvl 8...
ascend them as high as possible as soon as you can
tacit stone
not yet
fully level is ar55
but the principles is the same
think of it like this
genshin is full of rng, basically gambling, why gamble into a black hole first when you can have guaranteed improvement
they might be small but they build up
rancid tangle
ah true
ok, so I'll get my main dps to the max lvl
and then supports.. what lvl should they go to?
and same with talent lvls
I kinda wanna stop at lvl 6 for the supports since weekly boss drops is kind of annoying
and I have a lot of supports
tacit stone
you stop at 6 because you have to, not because you want to
your goal should be at least 8
for the relevant talents
rancid tangle
I can do that with the weekly stuff
I have enough of that dream stuff
ok so.. yeah I'll stop at 6 for supports, and get maximum for main dps, ok
tacit stone
the only place where talent doesnt matter so much is your anemo supports, but even then I would still do it, just lower priority
rancid tangle
sucrose talents?
tacit stone
you didnt understand what I just said
rancid tangle
oh oh
tacit stone
sucrose talents?
not priority, optional
rancid tangle
support talents, if lvling them does actually give a significant buff, I'll get them to like lvl 6, then stop there
at least for now
and for main dps, try to max the important talents
like probably not yoi burst
tacit stone
tell me what characters you're planning to get to talent 8
rancid tangle
itto and yoi right now
since I'm low on weekly boss stuff
very low, like 1 of each at best, heck I'm missing 1 ashen heart for yoi
tacit stone
lemme tell you the target
and dont think about why
just do it
yoimiya 9/9/6, thoma 1/8/8, xiangling 1/6/9, sucrose 1/6/6, itto 9/9/9, gorou 1/9/1, geo traveler 1/6/8, bennett 1/6/9
got it?
those are targets
doesnt mean you have to do them immediately, its gonna take a long while
rancid tangle
alright
ok
so then... should i make like a checklist of what I need to do, and put each of the targets into a priority?
and I mean for ascension.. just get them all to lvl 80 I suppose?
actually no
rancid tangle
ah ok
for supports I think I'mma jsut ascend them to the lvl they need to be to reach the target
rancid tangle
to ascend them to as high as I can, as soon as I can
rancid tangle
uhh.. yes, about the planner itself
tacit stone
its pretty intuitive, just type in the target and it'll show the materials required
rancid tangle
not sure how exactly to do besides putting my character goals, like if there is a way to mark a part of the character goal off
alright
tacit stone
not sure how exactly to do besides putting my character goals, like if there is ...
yes
just update your inventory onto it
it'll calculate automatically
rancid tangle
oh wait, u can do that??
tacit stone
manually
rancid tangle
oh
tacit stone
idk if you can do it automatically
rancid tangle
damn
lemme see
well the only sign in methods are discord and gmail
so prob no
oh.. there's a manage priority section.. does the priority matter as long as I end up reaching the goals at the end?
tacit stone
well the only sign in methods are discord and gmail
you dont need to sign in
it saves your stuff based on your ip address
and before you ask no, your not gonna get hacked, just use it
rancid tangle
it saves your stuff based on your ip address
so I just gotta manually type in everything, alright
is there a way to view my inventory without logging in to genshin?
rancid tangle
ok ok
and lastly, before I go do my quests and crystal chunk farming, should I put the goals into priority order?
tacit stone
priority is yoi > itto > bennett > xiangling > gorou > thoma > sucrose > geo traveler
do you understand why I listed it like that
rancid tangle
yeah, I get it, I will fail to describe why I get it, but I do
like.. sucrose and geo talents won't add much as talents for like itto, xl, and gorou
tacit stone
anything else
its nothing you have to worry about
and nothing I have to worry about
rancid tangle
ye ye ik
tacit stone
anything else
rancid tangle
uhhh.. right right
slightly different
should I start the tatara tales quest now?
and any of the other rly long ones
tacit stone
should you go find a job and find the love of your life right now?
should you do anything
how is that up to us may I ask you 
or let me ask you this, will your genshin account be broken if you do tatara tales right now
rancid tangle
haha, alright I get it
oh actually question thingy, for this planner
if I have like.. say, c6 gmc
why does it lock my skill and burst to lvl 4
tacit stone
because constellation
rancid tangle
right, I get that they increase the lvl cap
but they don't raise your base talent lvl tho do they?
tacit stone
what difference does that make
rancid tangle
kinda messes up the.. uhh... material required for talents
tacit stone
no it doesnt
tacit stone
you think they havent thought about this already
btw I think 90% of the question you ask, you can simply figure out by trying yourself
or think "what difference does that make"
rancid tangle
great point
and one kinda important thing
before I go
should I be farming crystal chunks and making mystic ore every single day, non-stop (if possible)?
tacit stone
how much you got
rancid tangle
oh shoot I forgot
tacit stone
no worries
rancid tangle
uhh.. in the triple-digets
rancid tangle
well I'm saving up before hand to lvl up weapons and such
tacit stone
you can plan for weapons with genshin planners too btw
rancid tangle
oh
true
right
guess I'mma use kqm to figure out wut weapons to use then I suppose
rancid tangle
oki
and i'll put the priority for them.. I guess basically how I did with the characters
like r5 slignshot would be behind yoi and ahead of itto or smth?
rancid tangle
well ya didn't say much about weapons themselves, but I suppose I'll just treat them like character ascensions
and ascend them as soon as possible
tacit stone
make your questions count is all I'm asking, treat it as precious resource, a last resort
if nothing else I'll go now
before I go I'll let you know that you have a verbal record on clogging chat with your talking-to-yourself, if the same offense occurs again we would have no choice but to mute you
ask away but do it with restraint and caution
thank you
rancid tangle
uhh,, oh no... did I ask a redundant question again?
rancid tangle
no not yet
tacit stone
yeah then what for
rancid tangle
itto talents were yesterday
tacit stone
why are you asking these questions
for absolutely no reason
before you have the talents up, and have the characters I told you to lvl up actually lvled up
asking these questions are meaningless
or are you just trying to talk to people?
cuz thats not how you do it
@rancid tangle also ally talked to you right
what part of what she said did you not understand
rancid tangle
ok so what I was thinking was that there would possibly be a better option than barbara on my itto team, and if it was like.. say... kuki, I would know to get her talents and lvls up
and aso if there was a character in the planner that wasn't used, I wouldn't farm their stuff for nothing
that's why I asked the question
but it turned out that Thoma could apparently work with the itto team, so all I need to do is remove yoi from the planner and I'm all set
I simply wanted to check with others and see their opinions and suggestions before I started seriously farming talents and levels
I didn't ask the question just to talk to people, I'm not that lonely in life
tacit stone
the characters I told you to farm
they are not just for these team
they are versatile else where
rancid tangle
oh, I didn't know that
rancid tangle
oh, interesting
tacit stone
you cant even stack his shield and its paper thin if you dont
because itto is a CA team
while thoma needs NA
rancid tangle
alright alright
tacit stone
before that, the questions you ask will be meaningless
rancid tangle
thoma won't be used for either of my 2 teams, which sort of sucks
rancid tangle
but alright, I guess if I have thoma I don't need to go for zhongli, at least I don't need him
so so, talents first
rancid tangle
alright, I'll first try to get all characters to lvl 70 or 80, and talents to lvl 6, shouldn't be very hard
tacit stone
before that I dont want to see any questions about "what team what team suggestions"
we're not made to answer redundant questions like that
rancid tangle
alright, I will keep that noted
so then, what types of questions am I allowed to ask?
tacit stone
we want to help you, but we also cant answer the same shit over and over again
you can relate to that yes?
rancid tangle
yeah..
tacit stone
so then, what types of questions am I allowed to ask?
just dont
get ur talent up, try to do abyss for a bit
rancid tangle
oh, oh ok then
tacit stone
another thing is apparently you're not rolling for yoi anymore?
why
you like her as a character yes?
tacit stone
or ur trying to save for dendro
rancid tangle
and playstile.. uhhhhhh
spam clicking tires my finger out
and sometimes she will miss her auto fire
so to play it safe, I kinda wanna wait till the next livestream
to get more details about 3.0 banners and such
before going for yoi
tacit stone
its a big unknown
we cant predict dendro until 3.0 arrives
so by then yoi banner would be gone
which is fine if you're waiting for dendro
tacit stone
I think zhongli and ganyu
thats the leaks so far
so if you pick between yoimiya, zhongli and ganyu, I would say pull for zhongli
then you free up bennett for national team
rancid tangle
yes, and zhongli I find to be more appealing character wise than yoi, but if I was going off purely character, I would be going for ganyu
tacit stone
we cant give suggestion on who you like better
we can only tell you whats better for your acccount
rancid tangle
so my 2 main reasons for not getting yoi I think is that, gameplay is pretty mundane and boring, at least spamming auto attacks, and there are more appealing characters, character-wise
rancid tangle
we can only tell you whats better for your acccount
which would be zhongli since I lack a real good shielder?
rancid tangle
oh yeah, and gives more geo res shred, combined with the geo resonance
tacit stone
and I believe last time I left thoma towards the end
tacit stone
in this case leave him alone for the time being
tacit stone
Im just gonna put it very clear for you ok?
rancid tangle
alright
tacit stone
next time you ask questions it'll be about trying to do abyss floor 9-10
because at your AR
with properly invested characters
you should not struggle with 1-8 with decent skill level
and as for pull advice I already gave it here
rancid tangle
may struggle with 3-staring though
tacit stone
so you wouldnt have to ask about that again, except for tighnari but we also cant give advice for that
rancid tangle
oh, could I ask a question about whether or not my 1st or 2nd team would be better for overworld?
tacit stone
may struggle with 3-staring though
run through them first
tacit stone
oh, could I ask a question about whether or not my 1st or 2nd team would be bett...
doesnt matter
play whatever
rancid tangle
oki doki
tacit stone
understood?
rancid tangle
yep
so basically no questions till at least lvl 6 talents and lvl 70 characters I suppose, that's fine?
tacit stone
and attemped abyss already
rancid tangle
in this case leave him alone for the time being
do I not get his talents up then?
tacit stone
like I said before, think before you talk
tacit stone
do I not get his talents up then?
what do you think I mean there
rancid tangle
probably get his talents and stuff last?
tacit stone
what does "leave him alone" mean
rancid tangle
well... here's my thonking
u had insisted (sorta forced) me to get all the talents up for the characters u told me to
and so I thought that maybe thoma's stuff would be last.. sigh
tacit stone
yes I am forcing you
because apparently by not forcing you your brains goes all over the place and ended up not actually doing anything and kept asking redundant questions
it was a crisis measure to make sure our chat doesnt get clogged or taken by you all for yourself
rancid tangle
oh yeah another thing i'm wondering, so 3 of the characters in my 2 teams are built with decently high ER, barbara, gmc, and bennet, would the priority for er arts and stuff be bennet > barbara > gmc?
rancid tangle
it was a crisis measure to make sure our chat doesnt get clogged or taken by you...
damn....... I'm a nuisance ;-;
tacit stone
again like I said before we're not your personal trainer we help everybody, and we don't want to leave anybody hanging either
tacit stone
you have the er reqs
rancid tangle
you have the er reqs
uhhh.. I'm not sure I can reach 220% without like a lvl 60-70 er sword
for benny
rancid tangle
get better arts AFTER I get talents and ascensions...
rancid tangle
get better arts AFTER I get talents and ascensions...
ummm... I think I gots it
and the weapon part too
tacit stone
so you said you'd have to level an er sword to reach the er req....
idk maybe you can level up an er sword?
rancid tangle
am doing dat
tacit stone
wow isnt it amazing
scarlet ice
😭
tacit stone
so are we clear?
tacit stone
good, next offense in the main chat would be a mute
and if you want to be safe, ask the question here
dont do it in the main chat
scarlet ice
1 warn will go away every 30 days
rancid tangle
and I have.. 2... oh boy