・art-corner-vc

[bitter condor]

thanks :D

I've never rendered water before

it turned out a lot better than I expected

oof, gotta go

thanks for watching guys :D

[gusty olive]

aight, looking forward to the finished piece
the water rendering indeed looks fantastic

[valid cosmos]

gtg too, see ya later!

[wooden vault]

o.o

gtg!

[gusty olive]

byebye

[gusty olive]

my neck
is i n so much pain
i think im done for today
ty for stopping by

[waxen wolf]

Ah, take care of yourself ;-;

[shy sandal]

omg its renren

[mental rune]

@cold pawn who dis

[cold pawn]

oh, the subview doesn't show on stream, huh

it's noelle

[mental rune]

Ooooh

What is she shoving into her mouth 😭

[cold pawn]

can't use the mic cuz my roommate is vc-ing in the same room

[mental rune]

Or holding

[cold pawn]

she's holding a box of chocolate, covering her face a bit for cute factor

[mental rune]

I was guessing that as well

Chocolate for valentines

[mental rune]

Amazing

[cold pawn]

thanks

hi

...and there they go

[hushed robin]

yaho

[cold pawn]

ahoy

[hushed robin]

wat chu duin

[cold pawn]

d00dlin

[hushed robin]

c0ooL

noellu

[cold pawn]

noellu indeed

[hushed robin]

faito faito

[cold pawn]

aye

my stylus is my sword
ctrl-z is my shield

[hushed robin]

lmao

[hushed robin]

oho

[hushed robin]

gtg now all the best

[cold pawn]

aye

have a good day

[mental rune]

It’s coming out so well

[cold pawn]

aye

it do

hm

background will be tricky, so i guess i'll try going into the game and see if i can snatch something...

[mental rune]

Looks so good

[cold pawn]

thx

[mental rune]

Oo

[cold pawn]

hmm

close, but camera itself feels too low...

let me think

[mental rune]

This kinda reminds of looney tunes space jam

[cold pawn]

never watched it, so idk

now it feels a bit too high...

[mental rune]

Yeah it does 😭😭

[cold pawn]

this should do the trick

[mental rune]

Looking great

[wicked nova]

Came to check in b4 classes, looks great!!!

[cold pawn]

aye
thanks
have a nice day

[mental rune]

AFK?

[cold pawn]

a little, had to crackle some bones

[mental rune]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-hungry-yummy-nom-nom-hangry-gif-17624677

I’m going to heat me some garlic bread

[cold pawn]

aye

[mental rune]

[cold pawn]

who ya bonkin'

[mental rune]

[cold pawn]

internet died for a bit, lol

[mental rune]

Oooooo, I was wondering if it was me because stream was loading

[sonic drift]

loving the drawing so far

@cold pawn

[latent mulch]

Ooooh that looks super cool!!!

[cold pawn]

thx

[latent mulch]

[tall cape]

your art looks amazing

[cold pawn]

thanks

stealing backgrounds from the game itself simultaneously feels good and cheap

alright...

let's try another cheap trick

[shy sandal]

yooooo looks sick!!

[cold pawn]

thanks

[shy sandal]

are you gna post it here?

[cold pawn]

yeah, in a bit, once i'm done with it

phew

that took a while

but... a full render in a single day, huh

[mental rune]

It’s amazing

[cold pawn]

yeah, even i'm surprised

[mental rune]

The progress it went through

Good job

[cold pawn]

thank you

[mental rune]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-congrats-congratulations-happy-baby-yoda-gif-21343114

[cold pawn]

i'll go take a break now, my hand hurts

[mental rune]

Well deserved

[cold pawn]

ye
see ya

[mental rune]

[shy sandal]

OH I KNEW I FORGOT SOMEONE. SORRY ORIAN

[bitter condor]

Ayo Jo stream POG

[shy sandal]

shuffling my files from ipad to pc rn sorry for the wait

[bitter condor]

lol it fine

Oh yeah Jo

Kazoo has two ahoges for some reason

[shy sandal]

DOES HE?

HJE DOES

[bitter condor]

YEAP

Ur talking to a person who draws Kazuha on a daily basis LOL

[shy sandal]

LMAOOOO

[bitter condor]

if you miss anything I'll probably catch it

kazoo

[shy sandal]

KAZOO!!'

[bitter condor]

this is officially the "we're drawing Kazuha in all shapes and forms" stream

[proud salmon]

HELLO

[faint laurel]

finally made it

[shy sandal]

hi!!

[faint laurel]

hi

[proud salmon]

I'm walking home rn lol

[faint laurel]

please

[bitter condor]

that amulet is in the strangest shape ever and I can't figure out why Mihoyo designed it like that

it looks like a question mark LOL

this is the fortune knot part I'm guessing

the amulet part is still straaaaange

yeah

[faint laurel]

how has your valentines been

same my dad doesmt get my mom gifts

literally forgot i was on call your voice jumpscared me

its cool

[proud salmon]

cough

[faint laurel]

no no admirers😭😭

my ma hot me chocolate

[bitter condor]

A friend of mine tried to bring sour patch kids

[faint laurel]

got

[proud salmon]

My gf and I are gonna call later :D

[bitter condor]

but I got a stomach ache right before lunch at school and went home

[faint laurel]

aww thats nice rainy

[bitter condor]

so yeah I didn't get to eat sour patch kids lol

[proud salmon]

F

[bitter condor]

WHAT

THIS IS A SIN

HE RELEASED 8 MONTHS AGO

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yes do that on stream

[proud salmon]

LOL

The first steam I went to was when you were finishing up the face at first

Like coloring

[faint laurel]

its just hard cause the perfectionist in me cant not put the detail

[bitter condor]

Man, look at his left sleeve

the patterns of the maple leaves

oh, HIS left

aka our right

yeah

[proud salmon]

My shoulders are starting to hurt cuz of my heavy ass bag

No, school ended like 2 hours ago

So I'm walking lol

[bold gull]

i’ve finally joined

liek an hour later kekw

transition shades?

oh.

yeah, i feel like english is so different from the chinese and japanese, and i like the sound of japanese more si i always use jpn and avoid english

except klee, i like klee english

jpn? the original language is chinese isnt it

[bitter condor]

Xiao's really aggressive in ENG

down to the voice

ENG Xiao is bordering feral

[bold gull]

yeah, in english its always DISAPPEAR but in jpn it’s disappear…

[bitter condor]

Idk I can understand the original Chinese I'll try listening to it sometime

and see how well it matches

[bold gull]

all i know in chinese is wo bu xue shuo zhong wen and wo jiao xu kai xuan

not enough to understand jack shit abt anything

BANE OF ALL EVIL!!
demon dance :3

lemme check

[bitter condor]

I'll look at chinese too

[bold gull]

his ult lines right

what part

[bitter condor]

yeah no it is his scarf

they just did a crap ton of artistic liberties in the way they drew it

[bold gull]

oh ya did you read the little blurb thing abt itto’s E

[gusty olive]

hii

[bold gull]

it’s like masatsu zetsugi

no not that

the name of his E is masatsu zetsugi, ma being demon or evil thing and satsu being killing

and theres a blurb thing abt how originally it wouldve been kisatsu zetsugi

yes

ki being demon and satsu being killing

[bitter condor]

Yeah no, his chinese ult also translates to roughly "demon exorcising dance"

[bold gull]

actually yes, 鬼 has ki and oni. pronunciation

[proud salmon]

Dhfujcg I'm finally home- my feet hurt so bad lmao

[bitter condor]

OOF

It's sad they didn't translate properly

because uh

[bold gull]

anyways kisatsu zetsugi is copyright infringement bc it wouldve been stolen straight out of a popular novel and also it’s weird to have a “demon killer move” when he’s a demon

[bitter condor]

his namecard mentions him dancing

and without that context people are like "wut"

to be fair the first shot of Kaeya we get is literally a angle of his butt but that's just Mihoyo I guess

yeah it's probably just mihoyo

people talking about his ... shirt?

huh that's a thing

I never knew

[bold gull]

i have no idea what this one kanji is, but the last kanji is dance

[bitter condor]

i'm triggered about Kazuha's ult

it's literally "Kazuha Slash"

But the thing is

"Kazuha" means 10000 leaves

So if they had just called it "Slash of Ten Thousand Leaves" that would have been sick

[proud salmon]

In gonna go and call w/ my gf, cya!

I might rejoin later tho

If she has to go I mean

[bitter condor]

YEAH NO IT'S ACTUALLY KAZUHA SLASH

You should have seen Hoyolab comment section when they announced his skill names LOL

people were TRIGGERED

[bold gull]

hmmm

[bitter condor]

god help me

[bold gull]

ok it’s not demon dance but it’s something like sacred demon dispersing dance

[bitter condor]

brb dinner

[bold gull]

something like

ya

in japanese it also translates to kazuha’s slash

kekw

kazuha no ittou

ittou not being itto (一斗) but (一刀)

the u just elongates the o sound a bit

errrr

da ja sounds like da jia in chinese

literally translates to big family in chinese

but it can be used to address everyone

[mighty dust]

[bold gull]

da jia hao, big family well but means hope everyone’s well

a common greeting

[mighty dust]

haii been good^^ you?

[bold gull]

thats just wht i heard w my ungood ears

[mighty dust]

that's good

[faint laurel]

gtg eat

[bold gull]

hmmm

well zhongli speaks old

[mighty dust]

eat well!

[faint laurel]

thanks for streaming jo

[bold gull]

in his teapot line, he says ohisakataburi when you first interact w him

usually you would say ohisashiburi

[mighty dust]

imma make coffee before class starts JHDBJA gotta rush and become a track star

[bold gull]

hisoka kekw

in chinese theres a zl hold E line han ri pan shi

kek you butchered that

dw

it sounds like han rr pan shh

yes

the tone no but the basic sound yes

anyways

it stands out to me and i like that line

might use chinese bc of it

not a fucking clue but in english, it takes the same slot as “stabilize”

in the voiceover collection yk

[whole jolt]

hello!

[bold gull]

hihi

[bitter condor]

I'm back :D

[bold gull]

hihi orian

[bitter condor]

I barely had breakfast and also didn't eat lunch

[bold gull]

eat something dud

[bitter condor]

so uh yeah my stomach's complaining real loud

but anyway

[bold gull]

menacing you better eat

[whole jolt]

You are drawing best boy ❤️

[bold gull]

yk how zhongli is like 3k or something years old

6k? i forget

[whole jolt]

woah :O

[bold gull]

anyways usually in jpn, gods and other old af people especially old men use the personal pronoun “washi”

[bitter condor]

Oh yeah can you guys actually hear me?

[bold gull]

you know chubby from the teapot? he addresses himself as washi

[bitter condor]

or is my mic scuffed

[whole jolt]

I heard you

[bold gull]

anyways im shocked that the older guy zhongli addresses himself w the kind of childish ore instead of washi

but washi is kind of old asf and zhongli is masquerading as a youngish man so it makes sense ig

important jo how do you pronounce xingqiu

bro not the tectone way

shingkwee

[whole jolt]

when people try to pronounce Keqing

[bold gull]

zingkwei

caching

[shy sandal]

xingqui

[whole jolt]

"keking"

[bold gull]

how abt ningguang

idk why but i always must must pronounce ningguang with the chinese tones

[whole jolt]

ninggung is not hard

I'm half chinese

[bold gull]

ninggung 🟩

byebye jo

its tomorrow right

horray! yatta

write went 4 din din

😦

kek its fine

[mighty dust]

we'll see you jo

[gusty olive]

byebye

[bold gull]

bye jo

[gusty olive]

temporarily

[bold gull]

tell us the zhongli name pun

[bitter condor]

okay hold on

my mic got scuffed

[bold gull]

oh hi mic

ya

oh kekw

actually thinking of names

[whole jolt]

I have no idea what tones are for the names

[bold gull]

it’s kind of hilarious to me that tenten, a content creator, cannot read amenoma kageuchi in romaji but 天目影打

he has no problem w

oh liyue

[bitter condor]

leeway

[bold gull]

i cannot when ppl say leeway tbh

but like referring to liyue

oh i didnt know it had 2nd tone in li

but i knew how to pronounce yue it’s kind of a common kanji

even my bumass could read it

not kanji. character

jpn

back to the amenoma kageuchi thing.. tenten couldnt read it when in romaji so he switched to kanji but he still pronounced it as anemoma kageuchi

[whole jolt]

@bitter condor I see your icon is going green but I can't hear you. Is it only me?

[bold gull]

yeah

romaji w japanese’s bullshit n and m is kind of hard

[whole jolt]

now it's fine

[bold gull]

i do not know very much japanese kanji i just put the kanji into a dictionary man.. except for the last one 舞 mai

dance

[whole jolt]

traditional characters is used in kanji

[bold gull]

i know how to read mai at least…

hmmm…

今日 in chinese this is jin ri

[whole jolt]

as a chinese person when I write something in chinese and a person asks me if it's kanji lol

[bold gull]

well, the jin is kind of scuffed bc it’s from the jpn keyboard but hush

but in jpn it’s “kyou”

however.

the jin part on its own is “ima” and the ri is “hi”

imahi weak
kyou real shit

[whole jolt]

I mean if you can read chinese you can read the signs in japan pretty well

I think

[bold gull]

funny story

[whole jolt]

haven't been to japan

[bold gull]

i read this thing abt a shrine in japan w a sign saying 飲めません

the first kanji i think is like similar to old chinese for drink

but the hiragana part is the part that says please dont

please dont drink

[whole jolt]

yeah I was thinking the same

[bold gull]

this sign was placed in a shrine on a fountain, and there were a lot of chinese tourists drinking from the fountain

[whole jolt]

xiao = small xddd

small dude

[bold gull]

and the fountain was meant for hand washing, so they were using the dirty cups and water, and the chinese tourists read the sign, saw the kanji for drink and was like mmm drinkie

yeah when i first saw xiao’s name i was like.. 小？

xiao is kind of xiao

theoretically it could still be in jpn… xīao becomes sho and small becomes shou in on reading

sho is shou

[whole jolt]

but the anemo guys are so cute

[bold gull]

i really want c2 raiden

but imma get kazuha

i have a c0 raiden she’ll suffice

c1 more dmg on average but doesnt increase dmg cap, and c2 ignores a bunch of def

[whole jolt]

I thought venti was a dude first time I saw him then my friend who played the game confused me into venti being female

[bold gull]

and c3 buffs her dmg even more bc its more raw dmg on top of the def ignore

[worthy rock]

same

[whole jolt]

he's a pretty boy

[worthy rock]

Iw as just scrolling in pinterest and that was the time i saw venti

[bold gull]

venti uses masculine “i” pronoun boku instead of the watashi, atashi the girls use

its also informal but hush

[worthy rock]

i learned the boku and watashi from kimi no nawa lol

[whole jolt]

I think I looked up his VA and he looks like a kid kinda

[bold gull]

idk i think theyre both kind of the same en and jpn

[whole jolt]

and the VA usually do kids voices

[worthy rock]

hes hinata from haikyu i think

[bold gull]

i keep thinking of venti’s CN and EN yahoo and completely forgot JPN yahoo

dodging jpn like a boss

this one time venti’s Q line “qi feng lo” got stuck in my head

and my friend was using venti in domain runs and we just kept saying qi feng lo when she ulted

[whole jolt]

I don't think Korean dub is bad I just think the other languages are better in the game

[bold gull]

uhhh think 七 but 3rd tone, and fēng and the last one is lo or le similar to the sound of 子 but without the heng in the middle

that explanation was fucking horrible

[whole jolt]

I played in english for the longest time then my (weeb) friends cursed me and made me go in the japanese dub

[bold gull]

yk the character that’s 子 without the heng

le

[whole jolt]

then I changed into chinese

[bold gull]

kekw

my irl friends all use chinese im the only weeb

asthma moment

whoa genshin’s official discord server changed their logo to say hoyoverse in the icon

[worthy rock]

same

[bold gull]

mihoyo who i only know hoyoverse

[worthy rock]

I was able to get in before

[worthy rock]

but then I left for some reason

[bold gull]

i dont have a need to stay in it bc i never give it any attention but theres so much traffic to get in i will never leave

6

yeah how do people stay sane in 100 server discords

[worthy rock]

I sometimes just join servers for the emojis

[bold gull]

i simply must give every server quite a lot of attention and if i cant i leave

[whole jolt]

20 servers I think

[bold gull]

yeah the pings and notifs! i cant just ignore them

[worthy rock]

I am in 12 servers

[bold gull]

im in 3 public 3 private servers thats it

yeah same

[whole jolt]

first thing I do is to turn of notifications and pings

I put servers into folders as well

[bold gull]

my private servers never have dots bc i ocd it

but the private servers are heavily muted and smallish so it’s not torturous to keep it all read

ok byebyee

[waxen wolf]

what did I miss

[bitter condor]

you missed me talking about some language nuances

lol

[mighty dust]

well im gonna go for a bit illl see you guys later

[bitter condor]

Oh yeah for Jo when you get back-
You say Kazuha's lacking some characterization? Here's a fan animation that somehow adds so much more depth then the archon quest does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrEbevuegS8
(really good video go watch it guys)

I gotta go for a bit, but I might get back on later

cya guys :D

[shy sandal]

RIGHT SORRY IM NOT BACK AT MY PC BUT I DID WATCH IT JUST NOW

yes. YES. THIS STUFF. GOD I WISH THIS WAS CANON (i suppose it is in a way it just wasn’t portrayed as well) like kazu wouldve immediately shot to one of my favorites if this was how he had been introduced

[bitter condor]

It is Canon technically, the real stuff is in Kazuha's character stories, not the archon quests

[shy sandal]

yaya

just wish they executed as well as this

[bitter condor]

Other than that one animated cutscene before Inazuma, Kazuha's story didn't get to shine

It's so sad ;w;

So much potential

[bold gull]

hihi again

i was dying coloring on digital so im coloring traditional now

sounds great

hmmm theres not as many hacks and you need to be a bit kore precise since ctrlz no exist

but the friction w pencilish materials is so nice to me

[waxen wolf]

Yeah, definitely the friction.

I like graphite/ physical paint because there’s substance I can really push around.

[bold gull]

yep yep

i dont mind the lack of friction but i definitely appreciate its presence

[waxen wolf]

Yeah, I find it helps to continuously tilt the paper towards yourself when sketching on paper.

To mitigate perspective errors.

[bold gull]

also i do so much better linework w the friction and a physical pencil idk why

someone pinged me in tc asked how i was doing and said i was drawing birb and asked if they wanted to see

[waxen wolf]

can’t blame your skill deficiency on the program

[bold gull]

and then i sent birb and then accidentally started a thing where they were sending sussy birb emotes

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

and then i left

oh yeah i dont know how to blend w colored pencils

im just bullshitting and made the birb look nice

im reshaping his head

and like

[waxen wolf]

It’s alright, we know you’re nice

[bold gull]

it looks like one of those foster birds that plucked their feathers out from stress

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

ya thats why im using procreate

[waxen wolf]

the what now

[bold gull]

i learned some procreate basics in a class bc we were using it to draw

very thankful for that class btw

and i could use procreate fairly well so now here i am

[waxen wolf]

Ooh.

That’s so convenient—

[bold gull]

lol that looks better

gives him more volume

[waxen wolf]

… definitely—

I mean, I’ve tried my best to click through all the options in the program, but.

I haven’t been able to figure out many of them—

[bold gull]

the first time i saw csp, i read it as cps… child protective services

and when i see cps, i think of cpr

bc medicine nerd

whit

whutt

16 in 4 days

OH that artist

mmm

wakatta

[waxen wolf]

I feel ignorant

me flailing in your DMs

[bold gull]

no when i think of cpr i think of cardiac arrest and shit bc i spent a good two years diving myself into learning cardiac arrythmias and advanced cardiac life support

horray head reshaping complete

arigatou arigatou

i wonder if i could just finish the bird above the branch, call it “finished” and then use it and some other piccies and apply for artist role hmm

i already got one artwork where i erased the pitch black charcoal and reburnished it w charcoal and signed it as one of my artworks

i realize “one artwork” doesnt clarify that this is my artwork, i made it

[waxen wolf]

… imagining the alternative, altering someone else’s traditional work.

[bold gull]

LMFAO

yeah i printed it out and somehow i erased the pitch black portion and recolored the matte charcoal totally legit

[waxen wolf]

sorry for interrupting your train of thought

[bold gull]

honestly if they dont believe it i could just show a vid flipping through the sketchbook, thats prolly convincing enough

kekw

[waxen wolf]

I mean, I feel like you could come up with some pretty elaborate scams, but.

Imagine doing that to get a role in a Genshin server.

[bold gull]

i mean scamming my way into getting a nonpower role and making lots of lineart and thrown away art just to fake this

that was worded horribly

[waxen wolf]

But hey, if we didn’t have those people who slap their own watermarks over original artists’ signatures to pass work off as their own, the world would lose some amusement.

[worthy rock]

I would apply for artist role but...

[waxen wolf]

storytime

[bold gull]

these hutao emotes are amazing

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

ah classic

ceo son

there are just so many ceos you just meet them on the internet wherever

i keep wanting to work on the birb’s head cuz its like im petting it but im borderline overworking it now

[latent haven]

every company gotta have a ceo

so lots of kids out there

[bold gull]

right like japanese mothers would ever name their children daiichi that often

[latent haven]

[bold gull]

oh

daiichi is very japanese name imo ngl

[waxen wolf]

Not only that.

Dai/tai in CN/JP tends to be tae/dae in Korean.

[bold gull]

eccentric ceo 🤪

[worthy rock]

wow

[waxen wolf]

...

[bold gull]

LMFAO

bro just admit to the lie man

[waxen wolf]

Of course:)

[worthy rock]

[waxen wolf]

. . .

No, I get it--

[bold gull]

ya i didnt

[waxen wolf]

That would make sense--

[bold gull]

we love boxing with the straight line down, horizontal and bend down, and then horizontal line

[waxen wolf]

Well, there are names like 태현, but.

Ta is weird.

Yeah.

[bold gull]

university educated manipulation ig

uni to counter a uni student

[waxen wolf]

... went looking for names to make sure, and I can't find any 타--

He could've semi-saved his name by making it 대식 or something similar to Daichi--

Of course.

[bold gull]

oh noeeee get this man in an ICU and inject him full of antibullshit-ethylamine

he’s in a coma mhm

a vegetable state

[waxen wolf]

And messaging you.

[bold gull]

not vegetative no thats too real a vegetable state

eat your veggies kids

[waxen wolf]

Best vegetable ever.

please don't eat nonsense

if that's what your veggies are like

[bold gull]

if your veggies can move dont eat them

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

and dont call them veggies in the first plce

omg i just realized how much you ctrlz’d

i only wish i could have a hotkey for ctrlz

this double tap thing is kind of sussy

yeah but i mean im on an ipad

kekw

there is a button in procreate to undo and redo but theyre basically next to each other im not doing that

singing daiichi’s praises

LMFAOO

[worthy rock]

what

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

yeah we live in a literal manhua bois

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

you get poisoned you get shot

oprah of unfortunate events

[worthy rock]

and then ben will soon die

the bens secretary

then*

will replace him

[waxen wolf]

I mean. You clearly wanted to trust him. So yeah, that would hurt.

[bold gull]

moral of the story dont ignore sussy or red flags

[waxen wolf]

When you said tachi, this is the first thing I thought of for whatever reason--

[bold gull]

i thank reposters for providing a wide array of art for my for you page, but i also dont like that they take up space that the actual artists could have shown their art on

oh when you said daiichi i thought of like 太一

tai ichi

or something

[shy sandal]

this is my name: daichi

[waxen wolf]

Well--daichi would be 太, yeah.

Like 大地 or something, would be an actual word.

Etc.

There are a couple variations I can think of.

[bold gull]

yeah i dont understand enough japanese to know this stuff

[waxen wolf]

But Korean definitely goes towards 대 for those hanja.

Or 태

[bold gull]

all i know is 大 in chinese is dà, in japanese can be tai or oo and 大人 for adult is otona

and it means big

basically

[waxen wolf]

Yep:)

[bold gull]

he was a liar thats all thats relevant tbh

[waxen wolf]

imagine a lonely individual on the internet

[bold gull]

its genshin what did you really think

remember the raiden fullbody

i was doing it and like i got to lineart and i was like… no…

and i promptly threw it out

[waxen wolf]

abandon the lines

revert to scribble

[bold gull]

ok but then the coloring

horrific

im so bad at coloring in digital

and how do you even render

[waxen wolf]

I pray I won't miss it

[bold gull]

youtube vid it, you’ll get at least 20 views from me

idk which brush or texture or technique to use to not get the yassified airbrush look

but im still obsessed w getting buttery smooth transitions which is horrible addiction

yeah i think i try to blend the hard shadow too much

poo

im just dying man i wanna go back to pencil but thats hard as bitches to do w genshin art

also i dont wanna use my pencils theyre precious to me even tho theyre not doing anything rn

coloring is the bane of my existence

[waxen wolf]

It feels more instinctively comprehensible in traditional to me, for some reason--

[bold gull]

been black and white like my whole life

[waxen wolf]

Not that I'm great at coloring either way.

[bold gull]

yeah thats why colored pencils are hard for me, you have to stack very thin and even layers of color together to blend a new color

[waxen wolf]

Yeah...

It'd be a darker shade.

[bold gull]

oh yeah have you seen those paint mixing videos

where they add a buttload of white, some base of the color, and color shift w red if its too green, blue if too warm, yellow if too cool, smidge of purple if too light, something like that

ive dabbled in oils a bit and i basically understand it

but i could NOT execute it

mmm

it looks off i think bc its too in the corner

looking at screen

[waxen wolf]

Personally prefer him not looking towards the screen because it feels more introspective?

[bold gull]

yeah

[waxen wolf]

And you could add lighting sort of in the bottoms of the irises for a soft glow.

[bold gull]

i wanna thin the lineart on my raiden piece even more

but going at the entire thing w an eraser seems like a PAIN

yeah i still dont really know the rendering procress

[waxen wolf]

Ah, speaking of traditional.

I guess the other thing for me is that real-life utensils have shapes.

[bold gull]

yeah i want a softer brush like yours

[waxen wolf]

If you've ever tried traditional calligraphy or Chinese brush painting, they're highly dependent on the unique shape and handling of the brush or pen.

[bold gull]

but the way i line, the opacity thing would make it look so spotty

[waxen wolf]

Nib.

Thingy.

And that just.

Feels right to me?

[bold gull]

omg i did mao bi when i was younger

it was so fun

[waxen wolf]

It's so much fun--

But once you get into triple dipping techniques and all that it's just--

how

[bold gull]

what

bruh i just took a piece of like that brown thin paper, a backing w the character, and went ham

[waxen wolf]

So in Chinese brush painting, unlike western traditional watercolor, you never go over the same part of the painting.

[bold gull]

won third in a mao bi competition

[waxen wolf]

And you never fill things in.

So the shape is made by holding the brush a certain way.

Chinese.

[bold gull]

the na stroke i hate

right down diagonal

[waxen wolf]

I'm... uh... just a random hobbyist:)

[bold gull]

could never get it right

[waxen wolf]

Oh, haha--heng shu pie na--

[bold gull]

gou wan

qi

idk

oh and also the zhe fest

[waxen wolf]

But yeah, there are specific shapes that are meant to be made with the maobi.

[bold gull]

弱い

so many zhe strokes

[waxen wolf]

Japanese phonology and morphology is definitely very similar to Korean.

Which is ironic given that both of them are technically language isolates.

[bold gull]

i regret not learning more chinese when i could, but not enough to want to learn chinese

[waxen wolf]

They have similar retroflex consonants and general aspiration levels.

[bold gull]

bc it is such a bitch imo

cant do tones for the life of me

[waxen wolf]

As well as morphological structures and particles.

[bold gull]

i can do cantonese tones but not mandarin

but theres like double the amount of cantonese tones

[waxen wolf]

Hope you don't mind my asking, but are you Cantonese or something--

[bold gull]

well cantonese is my mother tongue

[waxen wolf]

I rarely find people who have trouble with Mandarin as opposed to Cantonese--

Ah.

[bold gull]

im vietnamese

[waxen wolf]

That makes sense.

I want to learn it someday--

[bold gull]

LMFAO

[waxen wolf]

Too many things.

[bold gull]

ok so im vietnamese

raised originally on canto

[waxen wolf]

That makes sense.

[bold gull]

learned mando and english at the same time but i picked up english from surroundings before mando so i consider english second and mando third

but im not fluent in mando at all, i can do basic canto sentences

[waxen wolf]

Well--a bit more complicated than that.

Because tone sandhi.

[bold gull]

and japanese is a hobby and spanish is for school

[waxen wolf]

But that's a thing with tonal languages in general.

Japanese is a pitch-accent language.

While English is stress-accent.

Hmm... I wish I could demonstrate.

I can't talk anyways, haha--

[bold gull]

in theory i could do the tones

but the consonants in mando are foreign to me somewhat

and i have no chinese accent at all

[waxen wolf]

as they should be

But pitch accent is a nebulous language classification for languages which... how do I put this.

[bold gull]

my last name in chinese xú

[waxen wolf]

They contain words which are differentiated based on high-low and low-high pitch patterns.

[bold gull]

i can pronounce it but im not sure i can anymore

its like shu but the sh sound is sharper

idk

[waxen wolf]

closer but not quite, haha

Well.

[waxen wolf]

But these are pitch patterns between syllables instead of centered on vowels.

Well.

It's.

Alveolo-palatal.

Second one.

[bold gull]

yuueh

[waxen wolf]

Is closer.

Yeah.

[bold gull]

yes

the u sound cant ignore

[waxen wolf]

This is actually true of both Japanese and Korean.

But Mandarin moves its alveolar sounds closer to the palate.

[bold gull]

but english speakers tend to like.. smooth out the u sound

[waxen wolf]

You're pretty close.

[bold gull]

idk but thats how i think of it

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

yeah you’re close

[waxen wolf]

Yep:)

It's a downward tone, incidentally.

Hmm...

Tone is on the vowel.

You're pronouncing it like pitch accent.

e

[bold gull]

yuè

falling tone on the e

no

[waxen wolf]

In tonal languages, the entire tone change takes place on one vowel sound.

Whereas pitch accent distributes it.

[bold gull]

its like staccato ish on the e sound

close

[waxen wolf]

Oh, surprisingly close.

[bold gull]

but tonally wrong

[waxen wolf]

The first one.

Don't worry about it, haha--

But the x in Xingqiu is actually close to ㅅ

Yeah.

[bold gull]

in japanese its mondo and thats good enough for me

[waxen wolf]

Just slightly sharper. But that's a lot better than your previous pronunciation, haha--

please no

More aspiration.

[bold gull]

the urge to exorcise anyone who says zingkwuee

[worthy rock]

I sometimes hear people say thatand it pains me

[waxen wolf]

You know how Korean has sounds like ㅂ ㅃ ㅍ that English-speakers have a hard time telling apart?

This is due to aspiration.

[fringe garden]

Hey~

[waxen wolf]

Korean-speakers breathe their consonants more.

[bold gull]

not inspiring enough

[waxen wolf]

And this is true of Chinese as well.

The Chinese /b/ is close to the English /p/

[bold gull]

actually this aspiration thing reminds me of two russian vowels thats like shh and SHH

[waxen wolf]

So the /ch/ in Chongyun is more aspirated than the English /ch/

[bold gull]

oh yeah

its much more staccato than like in chin

[waxen wolf]

Hmm...

A stream of air out that carries the vowel.

Difficult to describe without demonstrating, haha--

Not quite.

what's a good analogue

this is hard

[bold gull]

wait

[waxen wolf]

If only you could read IPA--

[bold gull]

thats how you spell analogy?

[waxen wolf]

I'm assuming you can't.

Nah.

It's a different word.

[bold gull]

what

[waxen wolf]

Similar in meaning.

Same root.

[bold gull]

sokkai

how do you say zhongli

no clue

[waxen wolf]

Casual.

[bold gull]

theyre both already casual

sou desu ka formal

[waxen wolf]

zhong1li2

Don't have pinyin keyboard

[bold gull]

hmmm

yeah me neither lol

wait a minutw

[waxen wolf]

Oh, wait.

That was close.

[bold gull]

say zhongli in korean again

[waxen wolf]

JP shouri be like--

Yeah, that's close to the tone.

[bold gull]

that ch sound is very close to the ch in chongyun

LOL SHOURI

[waxen wolf]

it sounds like victory

I can't get over it

[worthy rock]

shouri

[bold gull]

well he was the victor of the archon war in leeway

[worthy rock]

the more I look at it it is starting to look like shortie

[bold gull]

yes leewya mhm

[waxen wolf]

stop

pai4meng2

[bold gull]

actually in jpn its not shogun its shougun

[waxen wolf]

It's paimeng for us.

Like mengde for Mond.

[bold gull]

showgoon ish

yes

also r in jpn is very close to L or d

[waxen wolf]

Eh.

It's close to Korean.

ㄹ

I love that that's always the go-to word.

[bold gull]

so you might hear me say something similar to laiden showgoon instead of raiden shogun (say that in a valley girl accent)

[waxen wolf]

I was discussing ㄹ with someone before and we got into this whole lamian vs. ramen vs. ramyeon thing.

Chinese.

Japanese.

Korean.

Yeah.

It's lamian.

[bold gull]

la mian

how abt in canto

idk something meen

[waxen wolf]

No clue

[bold gull]

idk

[waxen wolf]

When will I learn Cantonese

[bold gull]

in canto noodles is meen in a kind of lowish tone

[waxen wolf]

la1mian4

[bold gull]

no

[waxen wolf]

It's a falling tone for us.

[bold gull]

lower

[waxen wolf]

mian4

la is flat.

... you're inspiring me to apply for the role just so I can demonstrate.

[bold gull]

well this is canto noodle word im talking abt

idk abt shou

[waxen wolf]

It's the same word.

Mandarin/Canto share much of their vocabulary.

Which is why they can largely be written with the same script.

[bold gull]

when i was little i heard a word rlly similar to “toy” and mein put together to refer to instant ramen

but idk

oh oh speaking of mando and canto, 我 is wo3 in mando but like

[waxen wolf]

But they're not mutually intelligible

[bold gull]

its incredibly uvular in canto, ngo rising tone

[waxen wolf]

Yeah, I've heard it--

I find Cantonese pretty ;-;

[fringe garden]

https://youtu.be/p1RKkRCiU90

[bold gull]

also go go go go gou go go go go go

[waxen wolf]

ah yes

[bold gull]

that big brother is taller than that big brother

[waxen wolf]

the struggle

[bold gull]

my chinese last name is ridiculously hard to pronounce in english

[waxen wolf]

[bold gull]

omedetou gozaimashita~~

[worthy rock]

congrats!

[thorn flare]

Congrats

[waxen wolf]

Most of the alveolo-palatal series in general, yeah--

[bold gull]

yeah

[fringe garden]

Congratulations~

[bold gull]

xú

but my english last name is pronounced as 2

徐 is the character

means slow i think

[waxen wolf]

Well--in the gentle sense?

[bold gull]

no clue

[waxen wolf]

Something like that.

[bold gull]

actually i told my friends my last name was xu once forgetting it wasnt xu in english and they were like wait

what

funny time

[worthy rock]

whose voice is your favorite in jp dub in genshin

[waxen wolf]

Ei.

[bold gull]

raiden

i simp her kekw

[waxen wolf]

I love Sawashiro Miyuki.

[bold gull]

also drawing raiden

[waxen wolf]

I recognized her voice the moment I heard it

[bold gull]

not rn tho i cant color

[waxen wolf]

Ahh.

Yeah.

He is--

Honestly, though, I like all of Childe's VAs.

They all bring out different parts of his personality very well.

Definitely more playful.

I think CN is more of a medium.

KR... ah, it's been a while since I used the KR dub ;-;

Is that the one where he sounded more mature--

It's been forever

I really like Zhongli's KR voice, actually.

For me, CN > KR >> JP > EN for Zhongli.

[bold gull]

the childe Q line “itai kara gaman shiro yo”

this is going to hurt so bear it

i like it best out of his lines

[waxen wolf]

KR Zhongli really brings out that ancientness in Zhongli without making him sound like a belabored grandpa.

But eh.

[fringe garden]

Jo what dub do you play in? JP?

[waxen wolf]

I have strong opinions about Zhongli.

[fringe garden]

I've used KR since day one but

[bold gull]

what do you think of jpn itto

[fringe garden]

JP is really nice

[worthy rock]

I use jp the most but sometimes I switch

[bold gull]

personally im indifferent to jpn itto, the tone isnt rlly my favorite

but i like the lines and oraoraora

[waxen wolf]

Yeah... I like some of the EN VAs, but the EN dub is the only one I haven't used...

[bold gull]

i really like english klee

but i cannot w english bennett or xingqiu

[waxen wolf]

I know I'm biased

Ah.

I love.

Him.

[bold gull]

they sound so raspy ish im not a favorite

[waxen wolf]

Yes.

He's--

Wonderful--

Ishida Akira--

I love him--

Who?

Ayato.

[bold gull]

venti Q line “nigeyo nante omowanaide yo ne?” think you’re getting away?

love it

ehh i only care for jpn dub

did you say moeyase

kokoro wo moeyase

set your heart ablaze

the w in wo is silent

sounds like o

the word for to burn moeru sounds epic to me

[waxen wolf]

It's beautiful--

Yeah--

[bold gull]

i tried to read the lyrics to baka mitai once

read the romaji at first

[waxen wolf]

Jo, can you hear Luci?

[bold gull]

couldnt for the life of me

[waxen wolf]

Ah.

No wonder.

[bold gull]

and then i read the kana/kanji lyrics

and i could read it

[waxen wolf]

We've been having two simultaneous conversations, haha--

[bold gull]

and i was like damn.

[waxen wolf]

Ah.

Lyrics.

My favorite Japanese song lyrics might be the ones for 蝶が飛ぶ水槽

The thing they did with 偽憶 blew my mind.

When I first read it.

[bold gull]

i dont know enough kanji to read anything other than tobu and mizu

that looks like tame.ni w a person radical

[waxen wolf]

chougatobusuisou

gioku

[bold gull]

i cannot read romaji without a space

[waxen wolf]

Because it sounds like 記憶, and I thought that's what it was when I first heard it--

Uh...

[bold gull]

hiragana it and no problem

[waxen wolf]

chou ga tobu suisou

[bold gull]

kekw

[waxen wolf]

Sorry--

I'm bad at romanizations--

[bold gull]

ちょうがとぶすいそう

[waxen wolf]

I try to learn languages without relying on romanizations, but.

It messes me up when I try to explain things in English--

[bold gull]

imagine learning languages

giga move already

couldnt be me

im ungiga

no you’re giga

[waxen wolf]

...

[bold gull]

i traced a reference and used it as painting practice the other day

[waxen wolf]

If that was tracing, then.

Uh.

That's a terrible tracing job.

So.

[bold gull]

that is not tracing

wtf?

[bold gull]

[waxen wolf]

...

[bold gull]

nose maybe

mouth thats a stretch

jawline who

[waxen wolf]

The nostril is completely different...

Nose angle..

.

[bold gull]

the outline of it is kind of similar

but its a maybe at best

mouth is no

wtf

[worthy rock]

typing asmr

[bold gull]

and jawline is not a sketch

clicky moment

[waxen wolf]

It adds to the mood:)

[bold gull]

i dont hate clicky keys but i wish they were toggleable kekw

or at least i wish they were quiet clicks but still the same sharp click

wait lucie press just the spacebar pls

omg

[carmine shuttle]

hellooo

wwwooooww

[waxen wolf]

your clicky sounds are inspiring me to return to my abandoned homework

[bold gull]

ok so for a while i got into custom mechanical keyboard thingies and everyone there tries to make their spacebar not rattle and yours rattles so much its hilarious

doesnt bother me tho