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tired marlin
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that'd be so cool

scarlet river
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he took the gnosis bc he wants to be a god or something like that

weary oriole
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it'd be a sick plot

magic root
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BOI

weary oriole
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that's what ive been thinking the whole day, i wish it goes like that

tired marlin
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"since these mask wearing people are so fun to be with.."
"i think i'll be one of them.."
thats his motivation he can and will betray you in a second

uneven turret
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even his artifact lore points to him eventually beytraying them imo.

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exactly

magic root
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Theres a possibility of scara vs childe thenA_PogTao

scarlet river
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yeah

weary oriole
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I would love ei and scara interaction even if they try to kill each other or smth

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imagine if scaramouche found a way to make the gnosis work on him and tried to replace ei

magic root
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One of them should die

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Profit for hu tai

scarlet river
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isnt he like a puppet or something ?

magic root
scarlet river
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something w/ dottore

terse tapir
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husk

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prototype

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proof of concept

tired marlin
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ei doesnt care honestly

weary oriole
uneven turret
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ei says in her voiceline about him "i don't control him because i still feel in my heart that i owe him something."

tired marlin
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D:

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wait thats sad

terse tapir
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yeah ei doesnt care the same way she doesnt care about the raiden shogun

magic root
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What if the puppet ei uses was the prototype

terse tapir
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being a vessel i mean

weary oriole
uneven turret
scarlet river
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anyway when do u guys think we'll meet dottore speaking of which ?

weary oriole
magic root
tired marlin
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fontaine, or last part of sumeru

scarlet river
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alot of ppl said sumeru but idk

uneven turret
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scaramouche is different from the empty vessels bc he actually has his own mind and own will

scarlet river
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maybe towards the end of sumeru

void kettle
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Hu Tao watching the view as the journey continues...

weary oriole
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don't they invent lots of things there? like the guy from the mikage furnace quest was from fontaine and was an inventor, maybe we'll see dottore there

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Good point they invented the kamera there as well

uneven turret
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yeah the kamera and mikage furnace at least

scarlet river
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didnt dottore have something to do with dilucs dads death

echo plaza
terse tapir
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fontaine has tech

uneven turret
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dottore has something to do with a lot of people's deaths

scarlet river
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true

terse tapir
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ig you could say they’re the most technologically advanced

void kettle
weary oriole
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hutao set her business in the wrong region

echo plaza
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Im curious what they are

uneven turret
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they are also the fanciest

echo plaza
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didnt they say fontaine is uk

void kettle
uneven turret
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no its france

tired marlin
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france

echo plaza
terse tapir
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snezh too, with those guns and stuff that the skirmishers have

uneven turret
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fontaine literally means fountain in french lol

scarlet river
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i have a feeling we'll see him in sumeru at one point but get officially introduced to him in fontaine

echo plaza
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the twin or whatever they are looks fancy

magic root
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Whats sumeru based off?

terse tapir
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egypt

uneven turret
tired marlin
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middle east

echo plaza
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im not french

scarlet river
uneven turret
magic root
echo plaza
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Welp were getting egypt first

scarlet river
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maybe a new harbinger tells us abt him ? or scara 🤔

uneven turret
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im guessing its going to be desert with some jungle/oasis

echo plaza
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what im talking to thoma now

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i cant unsee his shirtless picture

terse tapir
echo plaza
scarlet river
weary oriole
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we've seen Fontaine, Snezhnaya and sumeru npcs but no natlan npcs A_HuSadge

uneven turret
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scara wont be showing up again until 3.1

echo plaza
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we only have 2 fatui ingame ok ingame not including manga

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that we see the faces*

scarlet river
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ope

echo plaza
terse tapir
echo plaza
echo plaza
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excluding manga

terse tapir
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?????

scarlet river
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we do

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o

terse tapir
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childe signora scara?????

echo plaza
terse tapir
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is 3 ingame

scarlet river
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we've only heard of

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childe, signora, scara and dottore

echo plaza
tired marlin
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the jester

uneven turret
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pierri

magic root
echo plaza
uneven turret
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pierro

echo plaza
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yall i-----

scarlet river
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who the hell is pierro

tired marlin
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pantalone was it?? the personthe guards said are rich ag

echo plaza
terse tapir
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you didnt say anything about alive ones E_KEKpat

scarlet river
echo plaza
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im sorry

weary oriole
uneven turret
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the 1st harbinger

terse tapir
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is good

weary oriole
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I thought that was pulcinella

tired marlin
wanton condor
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thats pulcinella

echo plaza
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anyway having 2 alive fatui are too few so we need another new one

weary oriole
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mihoyo literally said that

terse tapir
echo plaza
weary oriole
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if u go to the video's desc it says its pulcinella

terse tapir
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i thought that was pulc

wanton condor
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its literally in the video desc yea

uneven turret
echo plaza
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its pulc yeah

magic root
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I have a feeling pulcinella has a big ass beard

tired marlin
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is pantalone the richest man in tevyat? or was that someone else

terse tapir
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oh embed just dumb

echo plaza
tired marlin
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why do they have so many p's

weary oriole
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we'll probably get lots of mentions of dottore in sumeru from the academia he went to study and meet pierro A_WheezeTao but we won't see him in person until fontaine

magic root
echo plaza
terse tapir
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at least ningguang is the richest woman

scarlet river
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did collei ever die in the magna ?? what happened w/ her

weary oriole
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or maybe there's a chance that how dottore knows sumeru as a region and has studied there, he'll fight against us on sumeru A_WheezeTao

magic root
scarlet river
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ppl r saying shes from sumeru but idk

terse tapir
echo plaza
magic root
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Pulcinella is a girl?

tired marlin
echo plaza
weary oriole
uneven turret
tired marlin
magic root
uneven turret
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lmaooo

weary oriole
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The harbingers names that were mentioned by any official way possible, scara childe signora-in game, childe talked about dottore and brought us to his factory, sandrone was mentioned in childe's trailer description, and finally pulcinella in teyvat chapter storyline trailer

echo plaza
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so we expect sumeru to be on after 2.6 right?

weary oriole
uneven turret
tired marlin
echo plaza
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seems like were getting a new region during 2.7

weary oriole
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there's also pantalone who brought the entire goth grand Hotel for his men

echo plaza
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so 6 filler eps then new region

echo plaza
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seems about right

weary oriole
wanton condor
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so dendro soon

weary oriole
tired marlin
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o

wanton condor
uneven turret
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columbina is the wife of pierro but she cheats on him

tired marlin
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LMAOO

weary oriole
tired marlin
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L

tired marlin
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the hotel in mondstadt

weary oriole
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mhm

tired marlin
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owner of hotel is goth

weary oriole
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wait fr?

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owners name is ludwig

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yeah

tired marlin
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i mean theyre not goth they're named goth

weary oriole
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he talks about pantalone?

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yea

tired marlin
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lemme log on rq

weary oriole
magic root
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Man lore deep af

weary oriole
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In the eyes of the Fatui Agent Javert, the Eleven Harbingers have always been figures of lofty status. Javert only remembers one time he was admonished by Sandrone, back when he was just a new recruit.

weary oriole
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so, signora scara childe dottore sandrone pulcinella and pantalone

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how do y'all know the names of the others

terse tapir
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pierro

weary oriole
uneven turret
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i love how scaramouche actually fits his stock character, a villain who is sly, clever and conceited. and an "unrealiable servant" prone to betraying his master.

thorny crest
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its just a speculated name for the dove

echo plaza
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thats why i want to pull for him

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hes interesting

terse tapir
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there’s also capitano apparently

uneven turret
thorny crest
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9 harbingers named
2 unnamed

terse tapir
weary oriole
terse tapir
thorny crest
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capitano is mentioned by viktor

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sandrone is mentioned in one of childe's videos

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in the description

uneven turret
weary oriole
magic root
thorny crest
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pulcinella is named in the description of the travail chapter

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pantalone is named by goth

cedar salmon
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whats this for?

tacit vessel
echo plaza
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mihoyo just got them on google to be short

weary oriole
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ok but where

echo plaza
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you mean ingame?

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ofcourse there's none or official one but the source of this is likely to be true

magic root
echo plaza
tired marlin
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YO IM SO SORRY

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IM TWKING SO PONG BEVAUSE I HAVE TO FIGHT BAAL

magic root
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You made me laugh

weary oriole
magic root
tired marlin
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I LOGGED OFF ON THE CUTSCENE

echo plaza
terse tapir
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F

tired marlin
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TAKING SO LOMG**

echo plaza
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childe tartaglia scaramouche is there

terse tapir
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genshin videos are official…

echo plaza
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there names are literally in there

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the ones you know

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and yet you stil believe their not true

weary oriole
echo plaza
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why not the harbingers

magic root
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Commedia dell'arte is where the harbingers are based off

weary oriole
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it's basically an Italian comedy show

weary oriole
echo plaza
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isnt scaramouche a song

magic root
echo plaza
magic root
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Thats bohemian rhapsody💀

weary oriole
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no it's not basef of him

tacit vessel
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You're a genshin fan? Then name every name

echo plaza
magic root
weary oriole
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Scaramouche is mentioned in the bohemian rhapsody, but he's not a focus of the song

magic root
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He does the fandango

echo plaza
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true tho where is he

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banenr when

weary oriole
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he appeared then dipped

magic root
echo plaza
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where is that dainsleif who left us

echo plaza
weary oriole
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both fit the description

echo plaza
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i wanna slap him

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his excuse better be good

magic root
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Ngl, i thought it wouldve been the abyss who teamed up with kokomi instead of the fatui

weary oriole
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why would abyss do that

tacit vessel
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Kokomi is too godpilled for the abyss to want to team up

echo plaza
magic root
echo plaza
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dont know if its the same

weary oriole
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I don't think it's anywhere close

magic root
echo plaza
magic root
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Tbf abyss enemies are the gods

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So why not take the opportunity to kill Ei

tacit vessel
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The sangonomiya people are squidkids like Splatoon

echo plaza
tired marlin
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oh my god

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tell me i dont have to fight ei again

echo plaza
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guys im blowing up beel statue ❤️ wish me luck

tired marlin
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my phone is so close to crashiny

echo plaza
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but im ayaka.....

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i got caught again

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not fun

terse tapir
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idk why mc just follows stop orders

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not the time to follow local govt bro

tired marlin
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bruh what is this talk no jutsu

distant sentinel
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Does scaramouche...have pp?

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maybe thats why he's so angery

echo plaza
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Im at the part where sara find out the decree is fake am i still far away to finish the quest

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or no

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im so lazy

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but im indeed having fun talking to the yae guuji

distant sentinel
# echo plaza or no

Now you're training under Whis.... i mean Yae do a pair of small quests and done

magic temple
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I know its mesningless but i find it cool that Baal is the only character that poses like Lumine when youre looking at her talents

uneven turret
wanton wing
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got the uniforms for u teppei

weary oriole
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Anisa is pretty

wanton wing
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she kinda dumb

weary oriole
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Yeah lol

wanton wing
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for a sumeru scholar

cedar salmon
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LETS GOOOO

magic temple
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I think its nice that we get ei in the serenitea pot instead of shogun but the shogun would be funny skks

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“You call this a house? Pathetic”

weary oriole
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in the archon quest thee ending was very rushed in my opinion. so many things went unexplained/weren’t made clear

weary oriole
split stirrup
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So did Scaramouche have different dialogue options for those who met him before in unreconciled stars?

subtle jetty
nocturne blade
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opinion on Ei’s writing?

weary oriole
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sooo I forgot to read
is Inazuma still isolated? as in very strict border control

terse tapir
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idt they said anything about the sakoku decree

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just that the vision hunt decree is stopped

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so yeah

atomic tendon
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is the sumeru archon female or male

distant sentinel
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Astolfo-gender

weary oriole
terse tapir
void kettle
lavish bronze
void kettle
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He was a good boi

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Introduced us to the Resistance Army

void kettle
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Helped us get to Watatsumi Island

wanton wing
void kettle
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He fought well

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At least he got his wish now...

weary oriole
# wanton wing

we just left here there after signora got dusted huh
she must have been confused when she woke up. i wonder how it went.

void kettle
weary oriole
split stirrup
void kettle
void kettle
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It started in November of last year

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Oh god I feel old now

weary oriole
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Who was the supposed other fem harbinger?

void kettle
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That was such a long time ago

uneven turret
# split stirrup Oh? What does he say?

i played that part in jp but basically if you have met him before he's like "even though we're finally together again after such a long time, you look like you want to take my life" and if you haven't he introduces himself and drags childe and signora

void kettle
uneven turret
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i'm not sure, id assume canonically the event is where we first met him

weary oriole
uneven turret
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oh and if you met him before he says "you've changed, you're getting weak" but if you haven't he says "i didn't think you'd be so weak" or something like that

weary oriole
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Didnt soemone here said that this guy mentions pantalone?

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Or that guy just smokes a lot of copium

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waitt.. i think someone in mondstadt did mention him. i forgot who

weary oriole
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The ones next to the teleport point talk about signora death

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How bout inside the cathedral?

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Im gonna check it

weary oriole
tired marlin
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HELP O CANT MOVE

weary oriole
weary oriole
tired marlin
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i just realised that afterwards

split stirrup
# uneven turret oh and if you met him before he says "you've changed, you're getting weak" but i...
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For those who are curious

idle arch
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paimon can read the titles confirmed

dull stag
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Tbh when Signora died I felt sad and ok at the same time

weary oriole
dull stag
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cause 1 from theorists cause I never read the crimson witch lore, she tried protecting monsdadt while venti was a sleeping (???) and 2 cause it was a fair thing since signora did say loser has to die

weary oriole
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She what

tired marlin
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in the gardens i think

weary oriole
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I see

uneven turret
tired marlin
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yeah

uneven turret
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np i read all lore bc i have nothing better to do

tired marlin
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in elegy for the end, it seems she only returned to mondstadt after durin was killed

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hold on lemme find it

dull stag
tired marlin
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"She is abroad studying, so she should be well. But ah, how I wish to hear her sing again."
"At least Arundolyn and Roland are alright. When she returns, this calamity should have blown over."

dull stag
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Sumeru or snezhnaya

tired marlin
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sumeru

dull stag
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ooohhh

split stirrup
idle arch
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nah

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paimon can't use logic

tame ocean
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i came to steal your visions

meager galleon
magic apex
uneven turret
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why didn't they just feed teppei some steak or fried eggs

echo plaza
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lmao wuts this

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is traveller depress

tepid vector
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finally beat ei what the fuck

echo plaza
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this scene is annoying

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i can only hear paimon

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also shes saying the obvious

tepid vector
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ok that last chapters pacing was off the rails

woeful gyro
woeful gyro
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but just angry traveler going slowly it's cool

echo plaza
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oh it was angry

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because it killed signora?

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sorry i dont feel sad for signora.....

woeful gyro
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more like 'I achieved nothing and a person died'

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teppeis death was in vain

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nothing changed

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etc

echo plaza
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i see i see

woeful gyro
tepid vector
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ok so lets go to the resistance and meet up w kokomi. youre a captain now! lets wait for 3 days without doing anything. now lets find out a whole plot by the fatui was happening and confront a NEW HARBINGER but black out and wake up and go make a distraction to get these documents and show them to baal and fight signora then go out and fight baal again and boom chapters over!

echo plaza
# woeful gyro same

the scene was cool after you explained it but it look like something else like Ei is near or controlling us

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also paimon is just eh but thank you

woeful gyro
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like it felt like the traveler is poisoned

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but why

devout heart
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i think it was the lingering effects of musou

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idk

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maybe

tepid vector
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IM GONNA FUCKING CRY WHY WOULD YAE GIVE OVER THE GNOSIS LIKE THAT HELLO

devout heart
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she aint wanna get clapped bro

uneven turret
uneven turret
devout heart
tepid vector
uneven turret
echo plaza
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i got scared so many people whispered

uneven turret
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it was a hostage exchange

tepid vector
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and we basically ended up saving inazuma just for our search for our twin not to progress at all

devout heart
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?

uneven turret
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how did traveler get taken hostage twice in this game already lmao, outside the cathedral in mondstadt and then by scaramouche here

echo plaza
quasi junco
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Did they really change dendro archon to female????

echo plaza
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istg people saying no progress

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yes theres no info on our twin

uneven turret
echo plaza
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but that lessen our search for every region in teyvat

uneven turret
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might have always been female

weary oriole
echo plaza
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we are finding the archon/god who snatch our sibling so ofc we have to go every nation to see the archon of that nation if it was them or do they know the god we saw

devout heart
echo plaza
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after seeing the 3 archons we know ofc theyre not the god that snatch our twin which lessen the 7 archons in teyvat

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so theres progress....

tepid vector
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suppose u can say that…

devout heart
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das why idgi bc progress = finding the god who snatched our twin

uneven turret
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genshin really needs to get a grip on the translation mistakes/errors, they seem pretty frequent and its not really acceptable for a company that's making billions in profits imo. they could afford to hire a whole team of translators double and triple checking shit

echo plaza
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Anyway ei lost wooh

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ayaka dealing 30k with her E

devout heart
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so 3 out of 7 are debunked....

echo plaza
tepid vector
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i think its hilarious how they just added on a fun fact at the epilogue that scaramouche is actually ei’s creation LMFAOO

north tangle
tepid vector
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a bombshell and yet you pit it in the footnotes of the archon quest A_HuDead

weary oriole
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how bout the chapter trevail trailer

devout heart
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ong i they were hyping it so bad then bam
little fact at the end of the whoooole quest

weary oriole
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which pronoun Dain used with Dendro Archon?

devout heart
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he

north tangle
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The Dendro archons pronouns aren't said in that trailer

tepid vector
devout heart
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i think

tepid vector
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they share a hair color 😭

devout heart
north tangle
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I checked the jp trailer and the pyro archons pronouns aren't said in it either

weary oriole
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isn't it grammatically correct to use he/his when gender is unknown?
at least that's what I learned as ESL

north tangle
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That's a bit sexist...

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But english stuff often is

devout heart
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no

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u use they

north tangle
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Yeah

uneven turret
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they/them is grammatically correct if you don't know the gender, like when you meet a dog or a baby and you dont know if its a boy or a girl, you say "what's their name?"

tepid vector
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i hope that dendro archon is male :(

devout heart
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when you dont know who ur talking to you use they lol

echo plaza
weary oriole
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he/his is not correct too?

tepid vector
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imagine 2:5 ratio i would riot

devout heart
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i mean according to the wiki theyre a dude but idk

echo plaza
north tangle
tepid vector
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its A_HuKek

devout heart
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subject to change?

echo plaza
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theyre updating voice lines...

uneven turret
north tangle
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It's a retcon plain and simple in my eyes

split stirrup
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About the Dendro Archon, I think they're a separate being from the Lesser Lord Kusanali (who is being worshipped by the people of Sumeru) so there's a possibility he's a male

devout heart
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plus isnt the dendro archon dead??? suffering

tepid vector
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if dendro god is a female then give me so more 5 star males that are buff PLEASE

devout heart
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i heard somehwere that they died

tepid vector
uneven turret
echo plaza
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Zhongli said its a he but ganyu said is a she

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well just have to see

north tangle
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When did Zhongli mention the dendro archon

echo plaza
devout heart
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so theres a new one !?!?!?!?

echo plaza
uneven turret
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imo the god of woods is the god that dainsleif mentioned khaenri'ah hunting down and killing

echo plaza
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earlier this was the topic

weary oriole
split stirrup
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The Dendro Archon is the god of wisdom but Kusanali is the goddess of flowers (? not sure but something related to plants)

echo plaza
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someone send it....

uneven turret
uneven turret
devout heart
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tbh im more excited for fontaine than sumeru

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but i think thats just me

echo plaza
uneven turret
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i am too but maybe sumeru will surprise me or be better than i expect lol

north tangle
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I was really excited for Sumeru but I can't say I'm excited for anything in this game anymore lol

echo plaza
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i still dont get the hype

uneven turret
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i feel inazuma finished way too quickly considering how long we waited for it though

devout heart
north tangle
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Why be excited now when they'll just retcon anything they want

devout heart
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so every nation is just going to have 3 suffering

uneven turret
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and a bunch of filler patches in between lol

devout heart
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suffering

uneven turret
devout heart
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but natlan (according to leaks) seems to be the largest...

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wonder whats there...

north tangle
uneven turret
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its not a retcon it was a translation mistake

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they make them constantly and people don't even notice bc most people don't know chinese

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i honestly think changing it to she might be a mistake too unless they checked with mihoyo directly, which they should have done in the first place

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most likely it was originally left ambiguous on purpose

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if anything they should have changed the pronouns to they/them

weary oriole
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but why would translators assume Kusanali is a female model if that Archon is actually male model?

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they already defaulted to male model in the first texts

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unless, Mihoyo had design changes and redesigned Kusanali as female

north tangle
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all of the other archons were given "she" only dendro was given "he"

split stirrup
uneven turret
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its like when they originally said that childe was a young teenager in his profile until fans freaked out about the mistranslation and they changed it to young adult

weary oriole
#

many had already theorised that Kusanali is the Dendro Archon
coz of the string of Archon quests
Venti mentioned Zhongli, then he mentioned Baal, then Yae to Kusanali

#

why mention Kusanali if not the Dendro Archon

uneven turret
#

you'd think they'd double check with mihoyo whether childe was actually an adult or a teen before they wrote his profile but apparently not

echo plaza
#

i wonder what happened to the archon

terse tapir
#

died

echo plaza
#

the teyvat trailer said something

terse tapir
#

the old dendro archon died

echo plaza
#

i know

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thats what im saying

echo plaza
#

are they hiding

weary oriole
#

what is lesser God in CN?
i don't know actually so this is a wild guess. lesser god was translated from a god succeeding the previous one?

terse tapir
#

kusanali was born A_HmmTao

echo plaza
#

"Lesser god"

terse tapir
#

i think lesser lord in a sense that there's a hierarchy

echo plaza
#

so mistranslation

echo plaza
#

since people place their fates on her

#

and well according to the quest plot

#

the ending of the archon quest is the introduction to a new place and archon

weary oriole
#

but why would EN translation make that simple mistake.. we all know lesser god means minor gods here like Osial

echo plaza
#

venti introduce blah blah morax introduce blah blah

terse tapir
#

kusanali is a lesser lord

#

not lesser god

weary oriole
#

wait.. there are other languages.. what did they say in those?

echo plaza
#

it would make sense if kusanali is you know yeah (Archon)

terse tapir
#

if there's a hierarchy it could be that the old archon was higher than kusanali

#

but kusanali didnt exist until around the time of his death

north tangle
#

like this isn't just some assumption cause they used "she" for the other archons

uneven turret
#

i think you are overestimating the eng team

echo plaza
uneven turret
#

i personally think dendro archon/god of wisdom and kusanali/god of flowers are 2 different gods but mhy eng team is too braindead to figure that out so they're getting confused

echo plaza
#

they have mis translation

#

in the past

north tangle
#

it's not just the eng team all of the translations changed the ganyu line

uneven turret
#

all the translations are based on the eng

#

you realize that right

#

they dont get translated direct from chinese but use the eng

north tangle
#

I know JP and KR ain't but are the spanish and co. tls really based on the english one?

uneven turret
#

well not jp and kr no

#

thats true

north tangle
#

that's p wack Mihoyo lol

tame ocean
#

SCARAMOUCHE IS BAALS PUPPET

harsh hamlet
#

yup

uneven turret
#

the french translation of inazuma was apparently super bad this time, my friends were complaining it sounded like it was run through google translate

north tangle
#

I suppose there's some hope then that someone saw the Yae line, saw the Ganyu line, put in a request to change the Ganyu line then the change got put in for all the languages as a bundle

hollow obsidian
#

i hate specters like what is diona supposed to do

harsh hamlet
#

it was said from beginning

north tangle
#

er rather assumed the ganyu line was referring to kusanali

uneven turret
north tangle
#

beyond all else it's weird kusanali was called well. Kusanali by Yae rather than a demon name. Even in the same scene she calls Zhongli "Morax"

#

also the lesser lord thing

harsh hamlet
#

Maybe Kusanali is not YET a archon

uneven turret
#

kusanali has never been referred to as dendro archon, only lesser lord kusanali

north tangle
#

right besides ganyu/the patch notes

terse tapir
#

like how rex lapis is to morax

north tangle
#

I think we'll know in a few days if they make another change to that text next week

uneven turret
#

and kusanali is referred to as flower god in chinese and jp, but dendro archon is grass god/the god of wisdom

terse tapir
#

and raiden shogun is to baal/beel

north tangle
#

if they don't well....

terse tapir
#

morax is god of commerce

#

god of contracts

hollow mountain
#

Do you think Signora will be playable in the future? I was sure about it but after the end of the story I'm not so sure about it anymore

terse tapir
#

warrior god

north tangle
#

take that as you will

#

Scara's is playable

hollow mountain
#

Ohh so it's unlikely

north tangle
#

yeah basically but could've been changed theoretically

echo plaza
#

well signora is dead..... but its still possible if people bully mhy

hollow mountain
#

Lol!

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I was expecting a little more redemption for her at least, it was so sudden!

woeful gyro
north tangle
#

actually uh

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I just realized

woeful gyro
north tangle
#

was the Ganyu line change dubbed/voiced in the eng dub?

terse tapir
woeful gyro
harsh hamlet
woeful gyro
#

In the commission we find out about it

woeful gyro
weary oriole
#

this is the JP version of Fertiliser shop in Ritou talking about Kusanali

uneven turret
# terse tapir gods can have many titles

in chinese all the gods have particular names. venti is not anemo archon, he's "wind god" and zhongli is "rock god" they are not referred to as other things. they have other titles yes but zhongli is never referred to in game as "commerce god" or "contract god" even once. he is always geo archon/rock god. it doesn't really make sense for dendro archon to be both "grass god" and "flower god"

north tangle
terse tapir
#

that's the archon titles

north tangle
#

did they change the voice line too

terse tapir
#

ofc there's only 1

uneven turret
#

yeah thats what i mean, the archon title would not change

terse tapir
#

i didnt mean the archon title i meant the other titles they have

uneven turret
#

they dont differentiate in cn so its too hard to tell

terse tapir
#

basically,

terse tapir
#

we dont have the elem + god stuff in EN

#

bc it's localized as the element name + archon

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i know that

#

i know that's your point

#

my point is, im not referring to the archon titles

echo plaza
#

💅🏻

#

purrrr wiki

north tangle
#

that's the wiki article on the dendro archon

north tangle
#

kinda has to mention her

echo plaza
#

i thought its just archon

uneven turret
#

yeah so that makes it pretty likely that "grass god" aka dendro archon and "flower god" are 2 different gods

echo plaza
#

it was so random to mention them but it make sense

north tangle
#

let's wait in the next few days to a week

terse tapir
#

the original dendro archon is dead

north tangle
#

to see if they change the ganyu line again

terse tapir
#

ofc kusanali wont be the grass god anymore

#

if she's the new archon

hollow mountain
uneven turret
#

original dendro archon was the "god of plants"

north tangle
#

huh

terse tapir
#

and remember egypt doesnt have a monotheistic religion

north tangle
#

interestingly that lines up with the line from the dendro gemstone

#

what if it turns out the ol' dendro archon is still alive and has been playing dead lol

weary oriole
north tangle
uneven turret
#

i think the old archon was killed by khaenriah during the cataclysm or shortly before it

north tangle
#

just a weird coincidence is all

echo plaza
quasi junco
echo plaza
#

i want it like that

terse tapir
#

kusanali is born around the time the old dendro archon died

quasi junco
#

I was so excited for signora damn I'm kinda sad 😔

placid wedge
#

Fvck I really hate signora now fvck you

echo plaza
#

lemme just say this i was expecting inazuma to have the anime fight chuchu like what happened in inazuma but we did have the relationship of yae and beel which is cute

placid wedge
#

Those nobodies have life to live,how dare you mock them beech

#

Man my world is out of fatui to killed,i might really consider coop now just to vent my anger

#

Also fvck you baal,just because it doesn't affect eternity doesn't mean its good,you are the worst archon ive seen so far in the story

#

Even venti is better than you

weary oriole
placid wedge
#

Idk if 3 is overkill but might go for 4th and 5th later

weary oriole
placid wedge
#

No she dare mock everything like they are worthless

#

Such things can never be forgiven

weary oriole
#

i might bring Childe too.. heheh

placid wedge
#

Now we are just missing a scaramouche boss fight and have my caption "on my way to beat scaramouche the 7th time this day

weary oriole
#

Childe lines should include Signora death now. C_KEKTao

placid wedge
#

Signora is like her vision now,cold asf

weary oriole
#

does she have vision?

terse tapir
#

cryo is her delusion, she has no vision

weary oriole
#

aww poor girl, even gods didn't give her one

terse tapir
#

she's the crimson witch

#

a being of pyro

#

she didnt need a vision to manipulate pyro

weary oriole
#

Are there villain vision holder yet? (aside from Childe)

placid wedge
#

Poor girl lmao,she get what she deserves

#

I'll spit in her grave is there exist one

#

Overall i cried at the last cutscene, seeing those 3 vision holders ayaka visits us to, kazuha and kokomi praying for the loss is really impactful

#

And damn that line of Kazuha's friend hits hard when it started glowing the masterless vision

#

But still a 7/10 for story cuz its plot convenient asf

weary oriole
#

so if it was the Fatui who practically decreed the vision hunt
what's the relevance of the 100th vision ceremony, and the statue?

placid wedge
#

It felt like mihoyo force to really justified baal more than she done

tame ocean
#

all the ppl that wanetd to roll for signiora got btfo kekl

placid wedge
#

I'll be damned if someone still roll for signora after she mocks the people's suffering

tame ocean
#

eeeh idc about their characters' ideals

#

i just want a good gameplay experience

placid wedge
#

Also I really still hate Baal for a reason, knowing well your people is suffering bit still pursue eternity is a really bad choice for an archon

weary oriole
#

like, if I was the vision holder having confiscated, and seeing my vision up there in the statue is rubbing salt to wound

tame ocean
#

gods have a different mindset

blazing raft
#

Her character disgusts me for some reason

placid wedge
tame ocean
#

for example u could say the same thing for our god if he exists kekl

blazing raft
#

Oh yes fanservice uwu waifu

tame ocean
#

also same thing happened with venti

placid wedge
tame ocean
#

years ago mondstandt was ruled vy aristocrats and ppl were suffering too

#

but he didnt do anything as he chose "freedom"

placid wedge
#

Venti already did a big job removing the tyrant ruler back then

#

It was up to the people to stand up which happens

weary oriole
#

Venti is more easier to convinced and more emphathetic to people

tame ocean
#

yeah after it took them years of suffering

weary oriole
#

like you can talk to him about stuff, and never have to fear being decapitated

placid wedge
#

Baal intended to keep the works of decree going forever

tame ocean
#

venti is the best archon fight me

placid wedge
#

Sealing literally the whole inazuma from eternity

#

Though to be fair,i understand her fear since she saw khaenria and what the Celestia heavenly principle are capable of

#

But it doesn't justified her actions at all

tame ocean
#

and the heavenly principles is what the unknown god talked about in the intro 👀

placid wedge
#

Just because you are afraid, doesn't mean you need to stop progressing

tame ocean
#

cant blame her after she lost all her friends and twin sister

blazing raft
#

Ew

tame ocean
#

who am i to say no to her thighs kekl

blazing raft
#

Really using that

placid wedge
#

But so can be say to the people who rob of their vision,they lose their ideals, motivation and memories

blazing raft
#

To justify her actions

placid wedge
#

Its like saying "yeah my friends died and sister so im just gonna do the same to you all but just tone down"

#

If this whole decree didn't happen,we wouldn't have delusion spread out to the army and resistance wouldn't exist and wars

weary oriole
#

well, we can't have all the Archons to be good and just , can we? these younger Archons might need chara development

terse tapir
placid wedge
terse tapir
#

the delusion in the army could have been stopped but some soldiers refused to give their weapons up

placid wedge
wanton wing
#

there would be delusion regardless of the vision decree tho

placid wedge
#

This is basically what happened to us

terse tapir
#

even kokomi wasnt even sus of the mysterious sponsors

wanton wing
#

the vision decree is just giving them an upper advantage

quasi junco
weary oriole
#

she's not forgiven
she's just being exposed to the present Teyvat rn and understand the meaning of her eternity

placid wedge
wanton wing
#

tfw kokomi didnt do anything

terse tapir
#

kokomi was just basically ok with it

#

yeah def not sus

#

in a closed country

quasi junco
terse tapir
#

with a vision hunt decree

placid wedge
#

She hired beidou crew and bring kazuha (one of the most skillful swordman) thats it

wanton wing
#

kokomi also didnt talk to sara like it was shown in the pv too

#

stream i mean

#

weird to have a scene of them negotiating in stream but not happen in game E_PoliwhirlConcern

weary oriole
placid wedge
terse tapir
wanton wing
#

oh

placid wedge
blazing raft
#

Theres still an island left right?

wanton wing
#

but the dialogue had to do with the archon quest so idk

placid wedge
#

Just to let you all know we didn't have the drowning scene promise in 2.0

terse tapir
#

yes

placid wedge
#

2.0 stream trailer was misleading

wanton wing
#

u mean 2.1

clever vault
#

End me I dont want signora to be dead

placid wedge
#

2.0 stream where we first have a glimpse before inazuma

wanton wing
#

i kinda wan her to be alive as a plot twist

placid wedge
#

There is a scene where we are underwater

weary oriole
placid wedge
#

But not in the story in 2.0, basically disappointed

wanton wing
#

like she comes out unharmed and goes sike bitches u thought i was dead

clever vault
#

i really want to see a story quest at least with her

blazing raft
#

Cope

clever vault
#

and apparently she has a good chance to survive

#

or be revived

placid wedge
wanton wing
#

apologize to who

weary oriole
placid wedge
wanton wing
#

why u here if u havent done it yet E_PoliwhirlConcern

placid wedge
wanton wing
#

well in her story quest ppl see her in a different light

#

not saying it excused her behavior

#

but ei is pretty ignorant to what shes done

#

and how it affects her ppl

placid wedge
#

Different light "oh look that's our archon who made us suffer but because she is cute,lets just forget it"

wanton wing
#

i just said it doesnt excuse her behavior E_PoliwhirlConcern

weary oriole
#

And paimon and mc were too scared to lecture her? 😂

placid wedge
vale hinge
#

was anyone else underwhelmed with baal story quest or was that jsut me

wanton wing
#

ur not alone

#

the ending was bad

vale hinge
#

i just like expected more idk

placid wedge
#

To be fair,why would killing her is not the best option?? wouldn't promoting yae as the new leader be more convenient

vale hinge
#

exactly

weary oriole
#

errr... I found it enjoyable at least..
unlike Ganyu and Xiao 😂

wanton wing
#

it was just yae saying ei u lost and ei is like okie

vale hinge
#

i loved ganyus omg

wanton wing
#

and ei doesnt do anything about the rest of the shit she done

placid wedge
#

Xiao one of my fave but best for me is hu tao

vale hinge
#

baals reminded me of ayakas with the walking around stuff idk super underwhelming for me

terse tapir
weary oriole
#

Ei's story quest references a lot of weeb or anime culture

placid wedge
#

Hu tao story quests have the best story since the Big G incident really mad me cry

wanton wing
#

they just gave us a lil timeskip where thoma isnt a wanted criminal anymore and everyone move on with their lives

#

pretty stupid

vale hinge
#

yoimiyas was actually cute

wanton wing
#

zhongli’s gave me depression

placid wedge
weary oriole
#

I had worse quarantine than Thoma 😂

placid wedge
#

Sumeru better be not dumb,cmon its city of knowledge

wanton wing
#

childe’s the most fun for me we actually learned about another fatui member and the cutscene of him fighting ruin hunters was pog

placid wedge
#

If its plot convenient once again hays idk

terse tapir
#

at least the academia is

placid wedge
#

Atleast make the archon quest interesting

weary oriole
placid wedge
#

Tbh just extra scene of Baal saying sorry to her people would make a difference atleast for me

placid wedge
wanton wing
placid wedge
#

Rules of war:an enemy is an enemy,show no mercy

weary oriole
#

Some people are not black and white

wanton wing
#

so far baal has only apologized to traveler

graceful adder
#

alright if we continue this meme trend of archons being honkers clones

placid wedge
#

Ah yes because we are special

graceful adder
#

I’m assuming dendro archon is Theresa

placid wedge
#

Wait isn't venti and zhongli unique though??

#

Are there honkai counterparts for them??

graceful adder
#

venti is Wendy

#

and zhongli is either APHO MC or male fu hua

blazing raft
graceful adder
#

bro

#

the only thing backing this up

#

is lesser lord being a term of endearment for her

#

And girl

placid wedge
#

Male fu hua seems like a stretch but not far,botha re intellectual i guess

supple condor
#

no spoilers pls, but is cryo needed for the delusion factory mission

placid wedge
#

So is bronya cryo archon??

graceful adder
#

they have a lot of similarities if you look pretty far for it

graceful adder
#

it’s either bronya or ana

supple condor
#

thx

terse tapir
graceful adder
#

it’s probably bronya because Russian

placid wedge
#

Ana??

azure elm
#

Could someone answer what exactly the purpose of Kokomi was to the story? Like... She just feels like a completely pointless brainless middle manager

placid wedge
#

Who's that

placid wedge
blazing raft
placid wedge
#

Yes its all kokomi's fault

azure elm
#

Not only could she have been 100% replaceable to the story, she doesn't even bring anything new to the table. We really needed a third fucking hydro catalyst...

blazing raft
#

Ah another uwu waifu

#

I get there are some sorry individuals into that kinda thing

#

But its starting to gross me out

terse tapir
#

kokomi JP doesnt sound uwu at least

placid wedge
#

So far I think kazuha's friend death and teppei are what i considered pointless things to move the story

blazing raft
#

If she has a sorta twisted personality it would add some spice

placid wedge
#

Man mihoyo killing character just for plot..wow it hurts but ok

#

Also sad part in the story,we never get confirmation of what was kazuha's friend face at his last moment

#

A talk with sara or shogun would been emotional

#

But we still dont have kazuha's story quests so there is hope, hopefully

weary oriole
#

Inazuma NPCs are much better than Liyue and Mondstadt. At least they are memorable in a good way like Kazari and Teppei.

placid wedge
#

Yinger??

azure elm
#

The playable characters on the other hand...

weary oriole
#

Yinger? only male with a specific tendency remembers her.

placid wedge
#

Hmm fair point, cant lie her sexiness is what reminds me of her

tacit vessel
#

I think i like liyue's archon quest better, but i enjoy inazuma more as a region overall

azure elm
#

I preferred it until the last little bit here... Some of the new enemies are particularly obnoxious and I'm not looking forward to needing to farm those phantoms for something I want

tacit vessel
#

I haven't played a bunch on the new islands yet

weary oriole
#

I enjoyed Inazuma map 2.0 but not 2.1
can't be bothered solving those puzzles again.. they also already included a new event. I'm still collecting electroculus

azure elm
#

Yeah I 100%'d the previous 3 but I'm finding it tough to muster motivation to do it for these two

placid wedge
#

Hey just a reminder there is a puzzle in watatsumi with the the note lf east west something

#

I still haven't solve it, heard its only 5 primos so no worries for me

blazing raft
#

So many puzzles and quests i havent done😓

north tangle
#

does anyone play with the dub? I'm interesting in finding out if they re-recorded the voice line for Ganyu about the dendro archon

placid wedge
#

Yes they have it somewhere in the repeat system i dont remember what it's called

#

Archive??

weary oriole
placid wedge
#

I personally use en when replaying it since its easier to understand

#

Man if only the story put the subtitles in one go for easy reading

#

I let the talking go first before reading cuz it overlaps for me

north tangle
weary oriole
#

I use JP audio with EN text to get more
cause JP has something EN don't have and it's like playing both at the same time

placid wedge
#

Jp dub is good but the way subtitle is put slowly is a bother

north tangle
#

rap0404 can you check your archive for the ganyu line to see what the english dub says

#

if it's been updated or if it's just the text that has

weary oriole
placid wedge
#

Im on mobile it'll be faster if you do it also,im chatting at other servers

north tangle
#

i'm on ps5 and I dunno if there's any way to un-install a voice pack

weary oriole
#

Ganyu audio: HE is merely five hundred...
Meaning, not updated

north tangle
#

thats uh

#

very interesting

#

...gosh it might actually be true that some tl person ASSUMED kusanali was the archon then went back to the ganyu line and corrected it

#

without really consulting anyone else

#

thank you very much for checking

unique glen
#

We got any leaks on Miko so far?

uneven turret
#

ppl really asking how i still love scaramouche

light lagoon
#

So you shouldn't forgive him

uneven turret
#

no he is sexy to me so i will forgive him

#

ez

weary oriole
#

Wtf!! MC has quest lines!

#

I'm hearing Lumine talk

north tangle
#

yeah they have a few voice lines every arc

#

actually they should have had one in the inazuma finale but the JP audio doesn't for some reason

uneven turret
#

when did they talk this time? i don't remember it?

#

yeah the jp audio didnt trigger lol

north tangle
#

the poster scene at the end

weary oriole
#

In Archive they have audio lines

uneven turret
#

there was a part i could tell lumine was supposed to talk but she didn't

north tangle
#

I think shun horie the voice of aether has covid atm so he might've not been available to voice it

uneven turret
#

but it was the same for lumine voice too so its weird

#

AND WTF DOES HORIERU HAVE COVID????

north tangle
#

yeah. Maybe they decided it'd be weird if one had a voice while the other didn't so they decided to wait till he could record. It's weird since even the eng audio has it this time

#

I think so 😦 a bunch of SideM seiyuu got it

uneven turret
#

NOOOOO

#

omg he better recover fast

north tangle
#

they must've been rehersing for the concert that was in a few days and then....

#

yeah I'm hopin for the best for him and all the others 😭

weary oriole
#

Man imma be honest I was kinda disappointed how the archon quest ended

#

Felt underwhelming

#

Tho everything leading up to it was pretty sick

weary oriole
#

so do they never show the gnosis? or am i just crazy

weary oriole
weary oriole
rustic frost
#

thats how games be 😔

rustic frost
#

sigh

uneven turret
#

it was never explained why the big archon statue doesn't look like ei either, was it? i guess one of them was supposed to be makoto? but they were twins?? idk

rustic frost
#

just like venti's half naked outfit

uneven turret
rustic frost
#

i believe the only difference is the wings

uneven turret
#

no bangs are totally different

#

and the hair

rustic frost
#

hmm

uneven turret
#

ei's bangs are always blunt cut and the big statue has more piece-y bangs

#

yeah its weird

rustic frost
uneven turret
rustic frost
#

i figured

#

well i guess we'll be left in the dark for a while

weary oriole
#

You ever just..

rustic frost
#

until it gets explained in someone else's story quest or just never lol

uneven turret
#

maybe it is supposed to be makoto and her hair was different at some point

rustic frost
uneven turret
#

lmao

weary oriole
rustic frost
#

we dont see makoto directly

blazing raft
#

"twins"